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Speaker 1: From Sam.

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Speaker 2: Hello, how to do? What's your face? Lyle? The get go?

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Speaker 2: How's it going? Oh?

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Speaker 3: How long were you? How long were you practicing that? For?

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Speaker 2: Literally two hours?

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Speaker 3: Well are you not being literal? Are you?

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Speaker 2: No? I mean literally two hours?

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Speaker 3: For two hours in your head? You were going, how

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Speaker 3: are you doing there? You were doing that for two hours?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I was gonna say slowly different, but

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Speaker 2: I'll just go with what I said.

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Speaker 3: Well, what's your name again, sir?

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Speaker 2: My name is Sam?

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Speaker 3: Sam? Is that is that how you talk? Or? I

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Speaker 3: thought you were just doing a bit that.

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Speaker 2: Well it was going to go like this to hide

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Speaker 2: my voice, but that fell apart instantly.

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Speaker 3: Okay, are you still hiding at what's your real voice?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you don't have to tell me if you don't. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 3: uh oh, I'm excited to hear about what you're what

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Speaker 3: you're going to tell me that you are desiring to

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Speaker 3: remain anonymous.

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Speaker 2: About it's pretty bad. My question is how far do

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Speaker 2: you want to go back? We'll start with the Bay six.

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Speaker 2: I'm twenty five. I've had depression as long as I

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Speaker 2: can remember. It's been real bad at the age of

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Speaker 2: about sixteen, and it's got worse and worse and worse.

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Speaker 2: And then last week I tried to join a cult?

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Speaker 3: Is that a euphemism for something? Or you tried to

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Speaker 3: join a cult?

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Speaker 2: Is I tried to join a cult? I didn't realize

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Speaker 2: it was a cult I was trying to join. And

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Speaker 2: then after I didn't join the cult, I got to

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Speaker 2: thinking and realized, oh wait, that's not good.

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Speaker 3: Tell me why go out? The floor? Is yours?

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Speaker 2: All right? Let's go as far back as I.

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Speaker 3: Could think, Well, wait a minute, I will. Let's do

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Speaker 3: this cult thing. How did you try to join the cults?

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Speaker 2: We're going to go back a little bit and I'll

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Speaker 2: speed run through the story. My whole life, I've been

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Speaker 2: trying to find just someone to love me, so I'm

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Speaker 2: going to be my partner. I've never I can't speak

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Speaker 2: my whole life. I haven't sent into my whole life

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Speaker 2: trying to find someone to be my partner, someone to

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Speaker 2: be my friend through life. Literally, even back before preschool,

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Speaker 2: I remember thinking, man, can't wait to go to preschool

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Speaker 2: meet all these people. One of them will be my partner.

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Speaker 2: So through the entirety of elementary school. Come on, that's

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Speaker 2: not realistic. Middle school tried a little bit didn't work.

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Speaker 2: High school started doubling down. At the end of high school,

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Speaker 2: asked out someone I thought was cute. They said yes,

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Speaker 2: took them the prom. Had the best day of my life,

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Speaker 2: after which through the rest of the school year, through

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Speaker 2: the entire of the summer, I kept asking them out

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Speaker 2: more and more, and they kept saying, no, I'm busy, No,

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Speaker 2: I have to do this, No, i have to do that. Now. Me,

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Speaker 2: being a very trusting, loving person, I thought they were

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Speaker 2: telling the truth. I thought they were just busy. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So then I went off to college several thousand miles away,

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Speaker 2: and through the entirety of college, I didn't bother with

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Speaker 2: any other relationships. I didn't bother getting to know anyone,

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Speaker 2: meeting anyone, making new friends, because I knew that when

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Speaker 2: I headed back home after college, I didn't have someone

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Speaker 2: to return to.

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Speaker 3: Uh you, so when you went to when you went

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Speaker 3: to college, you were like, Oh, the girl I went

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Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna bother getting to know anyone new.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I get back and this chick does the

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Speaker 2: same exact thing for months after month after month. YEP.

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Speaker 2: In hindsight, it's pretty obvious you didn't want to go

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Speaker 2: out with me. But I'm such a loving, trusting person

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Speaker 2: that if you don't think, no, I don't. There was

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Speaker 2: one other chick before this in high school. I asked

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Speaker 2: her out and she said, sorry, man, I'm not your type.

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Speaker 2: She's the only person that I've asked out that I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was fair, that was a fair way to do that.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of others that slightly led.

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Speaker 3: Me on or as you look, when you're in I look,

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Speaker 3: I understand me. When you're in high school in college,

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Speaker 3: it takes you a second to uh understand the subtext

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Speaker 3: of what is going on. And more important, more importantly,

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Speaker 3: it's like you got to go through that fucking journey

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Speaker 3: of like, uh be it you of like acceptance. It's

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Speaker 3: a mourning like really right, because you know I know

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Speaker 3: that you say you were being a sweet and trusting person,

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Speaker 3: but like like in the deepest recesses of your brain

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Speaker 3: was probably a person who was like, this person is

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Speaker 3: not into you, and your defenses want to go no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: they totally are, and you have you have to kind

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Speaker 3: of like, uh, you have to kind of learn how

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Speaker 3: to mourn the this this thing and be like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: this person's not into me. And more importantly, I deserve

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Speaker 3: some relationship or a thing like that that that doesn't

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Speaker 3: feel like I'm I'm I'm fucking pulling teeth to get

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Speaker 3: somebody to, you know, like me. And that's that's just

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Speaker 3: a lesson. You gotta fucking learn when you're when you're

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Speaker 3: you know, at some point in your life, unless if

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Speaker 3: you're unless if you're really really, really attractive, then then

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Speaker 2: But we're getting there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I learned that lesson after this person. But

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Speaker 2: with that person, I honestly I got this little thing

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Speaker 2: that all the kids got these days, called autism that

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Speaker 2: was not diagnosed until after college. Everyone else knew. I

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Speaker 2: didn't know, so I didn't realize that. Honestly, I'm still

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Speaker 2: not used to people lying. I just think everyone's telling

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Speaker 2: the truth all the time, and it keeps biting me.

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Speaker 2: Sure got back. I'm gonna go back into the story.

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Speaker 2: Got back from college. This chick finally was like, listen,

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Speaker 2: I just don't want to go out. That's not true.

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Speaker 2: She said yes to one more date after waiting a

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Speaker 2: year and a half, we went on one more date.

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Speaker 2: I went home, checked Facebook. She was in a relationship

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Speaker 2: with someone else. All I read was in a relationship

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Speaker 2: with and I closed that, laid down, put heaven, burn pillow,

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Speaker 2: and just rearranged my entire understanding of the world for

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Speaker 2: about an hour.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And after that it was I'm gonna fast forward a

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff. I worked at a place, I quit

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Speaker 2: that place, accidentally fell in love with my best friend

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Speaker 2: on the internet at the time, who Then two three

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Speaker 2: years later, one of my friends accidentally told me, you

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Speaker 2: know your best friend loves you, right. I have a

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Speaker 2: off immediately. We talked for two or three hours, had

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Speaker 2: a great time, and over that year, then the next year,

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Speaker 2: and the next year below, I was just wasting my

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Speaker 2: life away working in retail. I slowly liked this person

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Speaker 2: more and more and more. Then they became my best friend.

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Speaker 2: And then one day in twenty trying to remember, I

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Speaker 2: think it was March twenty twenty. It was January twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: before the big pandemic and everything hit, or November twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: but Thur nineteen, you know, right before the pandemic hit.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you fell in love with this person over

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Speaker 3: the internet, and then did you talk to them? Did

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Speaker 3: you meet them?

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Speaker 2: Yes, because I realized that I had fallen in love

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Speaker 2: with them four months before our mutual acquaintance's wedding, when

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Speaker 2: I was going to be stuck in a house sleeping

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Speaker 2: fallen in love with and they didn't know. Okay, We

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Speaker 2: for those two or three days had essentially everything I

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Speaker 2: imagine you have in a committed mutual relationship. We're talking

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Speaker 2: hugging all the time, holding each other all the time,

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Speaker 2: hex sleeping in the same bed, feeding food into each

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Speaker 2: other's mouths. At one point we spooned for an hour straight.

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Speaker 2: At one point I pinned him to a bed and

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Speaker 2: we cuddled for two hours straight. And then at the

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Speaker 2: end of all of this, I'm like, I love you,

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Speaker 2: and he goes, I'm not gay. Figure that one out?

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Speaker 2: What but yeah, uh huh. And I'm like, we have

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Speaker 2: been talking about this four months. We have done every

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Speaker 2: single thing I could imagine spending the rest of my

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Speaker 2: life with you.

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Speaker 1: Do it.

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Speaker 2: I don't. And he's like, Nope, not me.

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Speaker 4: Whoa yeah, you know uh ah man, you know, uh man,

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Speaker 4: that's pretty crazy, dude.

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Speaker 3: I'm that's a bummer. That's a bummer. But this is

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Speaker 3: this is the thing, man, and and you you you

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Speaker 3: It's it's a hard boundary to reinforce because your emotions

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Speaker 3: you could be you could be sitting there groveling, going,

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Speaker 3: what do you fucking mean you're not gay? We we kissed,

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Speaker 3: we cuddled, we fucking did all this gay ship. What

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Speaker 3: do you mean you're not gay? And you can sit

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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, my friend, if

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Speaker 3: in his brain, whatever is in his journey, whatever, then

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Speaker 3: if he's looking at you and he goes, sorry, dude,

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Speaker 2: You yep, And that would have been the right thing

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Speaker 2: to do four years ago. But he also was my

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Speaker 2: never talked about it. Because I would like to go

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Speaker 2: had one of which since kindergarten, you know, the one

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Speaker 2: since middle school. I'd like to go play games and

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Speaker 2: talk with my best friends in life. Problem is, guess

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Speaker 2: who's always there? Oh, this guy that I'm in love

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Speaker 2: with but I also hate and he really really likes

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Speaker 2: me because of this. And it's just this weird dynamic

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Speaker 2: where sometimes I would leave the discord for a month

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Speaker 2: or two and then come back. Sometimes he would leave

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Speaker 2: the Discord for a month or two and then come back.

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Speaker 3: But right this whole thing becomes infinitely complicated when it's like, uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, if somebody is just like an isolated part

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Speaker 3: want to remain friends with the person that I'm in

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Speaker 3: not easy. But like, you know, whatever, you can cut

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Speaker 3: it off. But when they're in a circle with all

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Speaker 3: of your other friends, that's tricky. Chick, It's tricky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, there was. I had no way out. Everyone

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Speaker 2: says find new friends, but at the same time, it's like,

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Speaker 2: do you have any idea how long it takes to

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Speaker 2: make new old friends?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Do you have any idea how long it's going to

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Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm aware I am anyway, So I got

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Speaker 3: impulsively to be with this guy that you're in love with. Yep, okay,

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Speaker 3: And you get the apartment, and you get an apartment

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Speaker 2: From him, five hundred feet from my friends in kindergarten,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the first day, we all three hang out. It's awesome,

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Speaker 3: That was was he was? He was he hang Was

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Speaker 2: No? He was just alone that day.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh okay, I thought I thought you were gonna

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Speaker 2: Oh, that'd be wild. Uh. It was also the fact

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Speaker 2: Uh, that was twenty twenty one, Okay, for years?

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Speaker 3: How did you end up joining a cult?

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Speaker 2: We're getting there, We're getting there, okay. Uh yeah, he

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Speaker 2: my friend said, this guy's crazy. Come pick him up

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't think we hung out again. He

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Speaker 3: This is your higher friends. This is you're talking about

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Speaker 2: Shoot, I mixed it up. Nah, I'm just talking about

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: The friends in kindergarten at this point had a wife.

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Speaker 3: He had so saw my brother, my brother, my brother,

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Speaker 3: How does this lead to you joining a cult?

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Speaker 2: We're almost there, okay, So I keep this. This weird

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Speaker 2: About two months ago I was invited to go and

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Speaker 2: It's really fun. It was a little vacation. The next day,

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Speaker 2: They I repeatedly told them, I don't want to go

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Speaker 2: do this one thing. I don't want to do this

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Speaker 2: one thing. I don't want to do this one thing.

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Speaker 2: I am not exactly mentally well. I have strong opinions

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Speaker 3: I've ever covered what can I ask? What this thing?

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Speaker 2: Last night, I got really really drunk, having a great

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Speaker 3: Hold on, stop, stop for a second. Stop stop for

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Speaker 2: Go shoot guns?

433
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Speaker 3: Okay?

434
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 2: I don't like guns. I don't want to ever hurt

435
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 2: anyone in my life. I love everyone. I think everyone

436
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 2: is the most special person who's ever existed.

437
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 3: Okay, So, Sam, how does this lead to you joining

438
00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 3: a cult?

439
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: Because at the end of me screaming and crying all night,

440
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,959
Speaker 2: at two in the morning, my best friend's in skindergarten

441
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 2: and the guy I've been in love with called the

442
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: police and ran away through different hotel. Okay, so I

443
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 2: went back after this, Yeah, I went back. I quit

444
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 2: my job, and I just vibed for like a month.

445
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 2: Then I went on vacation to my parents' house, so

446
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 2: I had to pretend to be normal for two three weeks.

447
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 2: On the way out of my vacation from my parents' house,

448
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 2: this is like last week. We are at the colt.

449
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 2: This is where the story starts, but now you have

450
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 2: the backstory.

451
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 3: Hold on, this cannot be where the story starts, my friend.

452
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 2: This is where the story starts, but now you have

453
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 2: the backstory. I hope you're sitting.

454
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 3: Okay, if this is where the story is start. This

455
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 3: is like, this is like Red Dead Redemption two, where

456
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 3: you're like, hold on, that was the prologue to the

457
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 3: fucking thing. Oh yeah, Okay, well I'm gonna I'm gonna

458
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 3: tell you. I'm gonna ta the truth right now, sam

459
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 3: My AirPods are about to die, so this cannot actually

460
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 3: be where the story starts. But I'll say this, Okay,

461
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 3: go ahead, How did you almost get into this cult?

462
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: You want to do that? Or do you want to

463
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: book me up for Monday?

464
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 3: There's no such thing as booking you up for Monday.

465
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 3: That's not a real thing.

466
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: And let's do this thing. I can't tell this could

467
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: story that. Shoot, see what I can do?

468
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to Yeah.

469
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 2: While it was really, really, really tired, I got some

470
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 2: I was talking with people on a discord I was

471
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 2: in about my mental illness and one not on They're like,

472
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 2: you need to do this, you need to do that.

473
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 2: One of them went, hey, you want to take a

474
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 2: little ADD test and ADHD test, And I went sure,

475
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 2: So I real quick speed ran through the ADD test

476
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: ADHD test. All my flights for the day got borked up,

477
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 2: so by the end of the day I've been up

478
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: twenty four hours straight on four hours of sleep, and

479
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: this person went, hey, you want to talk about a

480
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 2: weird sex stuff? And I went, I got nothing better

481
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 2: to do. Hit me with it because I've been up

482
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: for twenty four hours. And they just started saying the

483
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: weirdest sex things. Oh, you can do this, you can

484
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: do that, you can live your life this way, you

485
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: can live your life that way. And I'm losing my mind,

486
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 2: like that's not how life works. That's not how any

487
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 2: reality that I've ever grown up in works. And I'm like, no, no,

488
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 2: it's power works, don't it's not life works. Just okay

489
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: the way that they do.

490
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna'm gonna. I'm gonna intervene

491
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 3: right now.

492
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 2: I got one in the left. But okay for.

493
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Speaker 3: It, Sam, Sam, I really, I really, I really have

494
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: to ask, do you do you do you see a

495
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: real therapist?

496
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 2: I'm about to okay, oh no, yeah, I'm booked up

497
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: with someone looking for a psychiatrist for me to get

498
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 2: me fixed so I can move out of this town

499
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 2: that I moved through because I was in love with someone.

500
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 3: Okay, Sam, I really feel like Sam, I really, I dude,

501
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 3: I really mean this. I really feel like you deserve

502
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 3: to be happy. I'm really just saying that, like from

503
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 3: the bottom of my heart. I really mean that, and

504
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 3: I really hope that you get whatever help you need

505
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 3: or come to whatever conclusions that you need to come

506
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 3: to for you to like make better decisions, you know

507
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 3: what I mean? Because like.

508
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: I just.

509
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: Do you still feel like you're you're impulsive?

510
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: I at this point have not been thinking for the

511
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: past week. I've literally made it awful limits to think

512
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 2: about anything because I've realized how mentally ill I am

513
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 2: and I need to find proberably a psychiatrist to get

514
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: whatever the heck is in my head out of my head.

515
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 3: Okay, how old are you?

516
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: Sam? Twenty five?

517
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I think you Yeah, I think you mentioned that,

518
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 3: did you. I I know you said you can't tell

519
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: the story and briefly, but you totally can. And I

520
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 3: promise you that. Pretend like, pretend like you're at the

521
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 3: end of the story. Pretend like you're telling me the

522
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: last two sentences of the story. What would those last

523
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 3: two sentences be?

524
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh, and I think I got this. I don't

525
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 2: know if they kicked me out of their ritual places.

526
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: I don't think they kicked me out because they cared

527
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 2: about me or because they were afraid of me. But

528
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: either way, I am glad that I did what I did,

529
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 2: because if I didn't do what I did, if I

530
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: didn't put everything I had into joining this cult, then

531
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 2: and there, I would be joining for free in two

532
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: weeks and I would never come back out. So I

533
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 2: have no hard feelings against the cult members. They did

534
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 2: what they thought was appropriate. They saw someone who was

535
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: weak and needed help and had no other options, and

536
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: they tried to take me in, but I was so eager.

537
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 2: I get the feeling the cult members are at like

538
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: a five out of ten on the crazy scale, and

539
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: they look for people that are like a two or

540
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: a three, because you can take a tour or of

541
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: three on the crazy and bump it up to five.

542
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 2: I showed up and was at a nine out of ten,

543
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: and they went, listen, my friend, you're too crazy for us.

544
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 2: Please go get some help. You know, when the cultists

545
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: say you're too crazy to join the cult, that's when

546
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 2: you know you got a problem.

547
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 3: Sam. I really, I really like, like, Okay, you're gonna

548
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: go see a psychiatrist and you're gonna go go to therapy.

549
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: Yep. I'm gonna see a psychiatrist, get that figured out, hopefully,

550
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: get my mind a bit level, and then move out

551
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: of this town and go.

552
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: Okay, good, because I really think like you're it sounds

553
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 3: and I'm not in anything you are. You know, you

554
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: don't have to. I don't need to explain that I'm

555
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: not a real therapist to you. I'm sure you're ready. No,

556
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 3: But like if I were you, brother, I would like

557
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: take every like stop, like, don't go. They don't do

558
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: it like I like, like if I were you, I

559
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 3: would like literally not do anything except pouring one hundred

560
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 3: percent of my effort into trying to like get better.

561
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: You know, all right, I'm actually I'm embarrassed about it,

562
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: but I do plan on moving back in with my

563
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: parents for some time.

564
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: Sam Sam Sam Sam. Life. I say it all the time,

565
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: and I mean it. Life is fucking crazy circumstances, the brain,

566
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: the universe, we live it. It's fucking crazy, Okay, And

567
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: I don't think you should be embarrassed about saying, you

568
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 3: know what, I really don't be embarrassed about you about

569
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: identifying that you have this crazy problem that is such

570
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,719
Speaker 3: a strong priority that you will do anything to fix it,

571
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: including moving back in with your parents. Don't be embarrassed

572
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: to that. I think that's a really good decision. So really,

573
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 3: don't be embarrassed of it. You really shouldn't be. I

574
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: think you're making the right decision. Okay. There's from what

575
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: you've told me so far over the course of us

576
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 3: being on the phone call, of the possible decisions I

577
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: think are within the realm of possibility for you to make,

578
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: moving back in with your parents is the best one

579
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: that I could think of that are in the realm

580
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,719
Speaker 3: possibility for you to make, based on what you've told

581
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: me so far, So don't be embarrassed of it. Okay,

582
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: I think it's a great idea. You move back in

583
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: with your parents, You go see a psych you go

584
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 3: see a therapist, you just figure it, just figure the

585
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 3: shit out. Sometimes life gets to that point, dude, Sometimes

586
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 3: life gets to that point where you've been so fucked

587
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 3: up for so long things have just been going crazy,

588
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: where you just have to go like, Okay, I gotta

589
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 3: drop everything and i gotta make fixing this fucking shit

590
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 3: a priority. Because you know, I'm only twenty, I'm only

591
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: twenty six years, twenty five. We're young dudes, like, there's

592
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 3: a lot of life ahead and if you take this year, two, three, four,

593
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: however long it is to sit down and go I'm

594
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 3: gonna figure this shit out. I really want to be

595
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 3: optimistic and say that you can like live a nice, fulfilling,

596
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 3: great life for many many years after you get better.

597
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 3: So don't fucking be embarrassed of it.

598
00:30:53,440 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, sounds good.

599
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: How are you feeling, Sam?

600
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: Uh? Better than I was? Still a little bit crazy?

601
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know you know, well, listen, man, it

602
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: is is. I'm glad we got to talk. I'm glad

603
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 3: you're making this decision. I hope it goes well. Message

604
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: me on Instagram, you know, a year, two three, whenever,

605
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: if you if this works, if you're like, hey, I

606
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 3: figured it out, I went to therapy. Life is going good,

607
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 3: send me a thing. I want an update on this.

608
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 3: If you have an update, Uh, give me one. I'm curious.

609
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: You want like every week updates are like only in

610
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: like a year.

611
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,959
Speaker 3: No, no, not every week, not every week, but like

612
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 3: when you like, if when you feel significant, if like,

613
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: I'll take a I'll take a year update.

614
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: That'll work. Okay, I'll hit you up on August ninth

615
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: and a year.

616
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 3: Okay, hit me you know what, hit me up on

617
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 3: August ninth in a year. Do that. And I'm curious

618
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: if things have gotten better?

619
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Speaker 6: All right?

620
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: And Sam, is anything else? Is there anything else you

621
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: want to say to the people of the computer before

622
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: we go?

623
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 7: Uh?

624
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: Sometimes even though you think you're the smartest person in

625
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: the room, you're not. And just sometimes thinking to yourself

626
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: is not the answer. You really do need to just

627
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: talk to other people and figuret out.

628
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 3: Sam, honest to god, good luck man. Okay, take take

629
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: take care brother.

630
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: You too. You're probably doing better than I am.

631
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: But you if only you fucking knew, take care. Yes,

632
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: I hope that guy's doing all right. Attention listeners of

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Speaker 3: gonna have a great time at the live show once again.

651
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Speaker 3: Tickets are available right now at therapy geckotour dot com

652
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 3: or at the link in the episode description. These are

653
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Speaker 3: really fun shows. They're always wild, they're always unpredictable, and

654
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 3: I hope to see you guys there.

655
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 8: Awesome schell yo, Oh my god, I'm finally on.

656
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: What's up?

657
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: Man?

658
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: What's your name?

659
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: Chef?

660
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: Shit? What's going on?

661
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 2: Uh?

662
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 8: A lot of life, A lot of life.

663
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 3: Get okay? Do you want to talk about any of it?

664
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: Oh?

665
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: Absolutely, okay, let's do it.

666
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

667
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 8: I texted you because well, the main thing is I

668
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 8: got fired from my job back in May. Now, I

669
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 8: was a shitting employee. I'll admit to that. But it's

670
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 8: been a little tough in the job market, especially as

671
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 8: an engineer. But after a lot of second round interviews

672
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 8: that you know, fall flat, I think I'm gonna get

673
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 8: an offer soon, So feeling optimistic about that at least.

674
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: Hey, congrats man, that's cool. You know, the job market

675
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: is tough no matter what you are doing. I remember

676
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 3: when I was like sixteen, I was just trying to

677
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: get to fucking like I was just trying to get

678
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 3: like a shitty job doing a retail or like working

679
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 3: at a grocery store or whatever. And I kept putting

680
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: in all these applications and I would never hear back

681
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: from any of these places. And then I realized, like,

682
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what the thing is. It could be

683
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 3: like electrical engineering or working at a fucking grocery store.

684
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 3: You like gotta know a guy in the fucking thing you,

685
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: I mean, oh my god, And it's it's so annoying,

686
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 3: and it like it genuinely does not matter how prestigious

687
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: or whatever the job is. Like you have like like

688
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,479
Speaker 3: people like people talk about like the entertainment industry where

689
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: it's like, uh, oh, you know that person only got

690
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 3: that job because they, you know, know the owner or whatever.

691
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 3: And it's like there's nepo babies working at the grocery

692
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 3: store where it's like, you gotta know, a guy got

693
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 3: the job because his uncle's the manager of the fucking safeway.

694
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: It's like, that's how anyone. It's so frustrating out there,

695
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 3: no matter what kind of job you're trying to get.

696
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god.

697
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: So okay, so that's so we're optimistic.

698
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 8: Now, Yeah, we're optimistic. And I'm always an optimistic person,

699
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 8: you know.

700
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: I mean it helps to.

701
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: Be what anything else going on.

702
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm home a lot throughout the day just

703
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 8: because I'm unemployed, but I pass the time really just

704
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 8: with friends or hell, I'm petting my cat right now.

705
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 8: She's trying to get my attention. A lot of a

706
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 8: lot of shows, video games.

707
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you sound like you're doing what When you

708
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 3: said that life was lifing, I I anticipated that you

709
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: might be in some kind of extreme duress. But I'm

710
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: happy to hear that that doesn't seem to be the case.

711
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: As far as you're letting onto me, it.

712
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 8: Sounds like extreme duress. I mean, I've definitely nervous about

713
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 8: not having a job. Well also because like I'm past

714
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 8: my seventh period for my old job, so you know,

715
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 8: I'm no longer getting money.

716
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 2: Uh.

717
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 8: So I'm hopeful that this offer comes in soon because

718
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 8: you know, my my one priority right now is to

719
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 8: stop free falling.

720
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 3: Oh you're like burning through your savings.

721
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that's the that's the that's yeah, that's a

722
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 8: That's the one thing I definitely recommend is don't get

723
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 8: fired because uh because it definitely, uh definitely hurts your

724
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 8: VIC account for sure.

725
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: Uh do you so, do you know a person at

726
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 3: this engineering thing or did you just kind of get

727
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 3: in as a as a random?

728
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 8: Well, it's it's funny because I started off as a

729
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 8: random and it's actually back in my hometown. So I'm

730
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 8: in Harrisonburg, Virginia. I don't know if they're familiar with

731
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 8: that at all.

732
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

733
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 8: If you know James Madison University, it's it's that town.

734
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 8: And this job is actually back in my hometown, which

735
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 8: is about an hour away.

736
00:37:58,920 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 3: Uh.

737
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 8: I'm known of them, and in fact, my dad, who's

738
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 8: also an engineer, used to like consult use like the

739
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 8: consultant for their their building. And then when I got in,

740
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 8: I realized we got a pretty interview. I realized that

741
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 8: some of their higher ups work with my dad in

742
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 8: the past on like some town rutary thing. There's like

743
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 8: a couple other people that I I was like looking

744
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 8: through the list on LinkedIn. A couple of people are

745
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 8: recognized there, so there'd be some familiarity, which is nice.

746
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: That's good. That's good. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard if

747
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: you're starting from complete scratch. But I'm glad to hear

748
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: that you're not gonna starve and die because it doesn't

749
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: seem like a fun way to live.

750
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it was.

751
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 8: Like two months from now, I'd be very much worrying

752
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 8: about starving and dying.

753
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 3: What's your name again, sir? Shep Shep? Anything else do

754
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 3: I say to the people of the computer before we go?

755
00:38:59,760 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: Go?

756
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 8: Commanders?

757
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: Uh?

758
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 8: What do they the Washington commanders of the NFL team?

759
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 3: Okay, go go commanders?

760
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

761
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 8: Absolutely. And oh, by the way, I saw you in

762
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 8: Richmond and you asked the crowd at one point, is

763
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 8: anyone Jewish? And there was one person who yelled back, and.

764
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: That was me.

765
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: Ah, that's that's awesome. Yeah, I do that at every show.

766
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 3: I don't do that at every show. I don't know

767
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: why I said that, but I'm that's surprising. Do you

768
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 3: think you were the Well no, I don't think you

769
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: were the only Jewish person there. I just think that

770
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 3: someone else.

771
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 8: Someone else then spoke up.

772
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that you know, as Jewish people, we

773
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 3: don't they'd like to identify ourselves because that that doesn't

774
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: historically go in our favor.

775
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 8: Yeah, just a little bit.

776
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 3: Well good luck and uh lhiam well him see ye yep.

777
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 3: I'll tack this on to this call because this is

778
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 3: something I think about a lot. Is you know, the

779
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: whole thing about like, hey, you have to know somebody

780
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 3: to get into a job. I so the one job

781
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: that I really wanted when I was in high school

782
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 3: and college was that I wanted to work at Adult

783
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 3: Swim because I was really into that network when I

784
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 3: was a kid. And so I did this thing. And

785
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: if you're like in college right now, especially if you're

786
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 3: like I want to do like an entertainment industry thing,

787
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 3: this is something I highly recommend doing. Is I would

788
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 3: go on Twitter and I would just like find people

789
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 3: who worked in the entertainment industry, who like worked on

790
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: TV shows, that I really liked, or who worked at

791
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: Adult Swim or whatever, and I would just tweet at

792
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 3: them and I'd be like, Hey, my name is Lyle

793
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 3: and I'm in and I'm a little boy. Can we

794
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: can I ask you for advice about the industry? And

795
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 3: I wouldn't. And a lot of people they try to

796
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: do that, but to like famous, but like a lot

797
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 3: of people are like tweeting at mister Beast, like, hey,

798
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 3: mister Beast, can I I want to work for you?

799
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: And it's like that's not what you do. You fucking

800
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: find like the like the third ranking guy who works

801
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: for mister Beet, So you tweeted them because they're on

802
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 3: Twitter all day that you know they have seven hundred

803
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: followers or whatever. So that's what I would do. And

804
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 3: I got to interview some interesting people. I interviewed the

805
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 3: head writer of the Eric Andre Show. I interviewed the

806
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 3: I was really too Nathan for you. I got to

807
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: interview not Nathan, but the guy who co created the

808
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: show with him. I was there was this like back

809
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 3: in twenty fourteen, maybe there was this viral video from

810
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: Adult Swim called too Many Cooks. I got to interview

811
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: the guy who made that, and then I kind of

812
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: parlayed my connection with that guy that I just made

813
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 3: by you know, hitting people up on Twitter into working

814
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 3: on one of his shows, and then I kind of

815
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: parlayed that into eventually getting to work at Adult Swim

816
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 3: for a little bit and so on. All these like

817
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 3: connections are kind of out there, but you just got

818
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 3: to go on Twitter and be like, oh, I don't

819
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: know if it's still Twitter anyway. This was I was

820
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 3: doing this back in like twenty seventeen, so I don't

821
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 3: know if Twitter is Maybe it's crazy now, but yeah,

822
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 3: I don't know those connections out because if you just

823
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: like send in a job applications for a lot of stuff,

824
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 3: you just get fucked, like nobody cares about your job application.

825
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: You got to like noah, person. But there's the people

826
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 3: out there if you just try to find them on

827
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: the computer. Hello, Hello, heuck, what's up man? What's your name?

828
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: My name is James.

829
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: James. You texted me and you said I'm afraid of

830
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 3: using my penis.

831
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: I did say that.

832
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, what does that mean?

833
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 7: Uh? Okay, So yeah, it's strange. I guess well, maybe

834
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 7: it's not too strange. Maybe some people have had this before,

835
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 7: but it's new to me. I was basically just having

836
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 7: sex with my partner and yeah, like you know the

837
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 7: bit that connects your four skin to your dick, the.

838
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 3: Bit that connects your foreskin to your dick.

839
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, some people call it like the banjo.

840
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: Card, the part of your penis that connects your foreskin.

841
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: I guess I don't really have foreskin because I'm circumcised.

842
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 7: Oh okay, yeah, maybe maybe this is a cultural difference.

843
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 7: But yeah, man, that thing, that thing like started bleeding.

844
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 7: That thing like ripped, So that was not fun. And

845
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 7: it's kind of.

846
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: Oh is it on the front of your penis. Yeah,

847
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 3: like the little the little of the tiny thing that

848
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: connects like the tip of the pen the little uh

849
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: it looks like the same thing you got on your tongue,

850
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 3: right that connects your tongue to your mouth. You know

851
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about?

852
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you know that.

853
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, is that what you're talking about?

854
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, that ripped.

855
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

856
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: Man ah, oh, it was just going fucking too hard.

857
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: I guess Jesus fad my god, that's the worst thing

858
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: I've ever heard ever in my entire life. Did it bleed?

859
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, there was so there was like a little bit

860
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 7: of blood, right, So, like it happened once and then

861
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 7: we stopped. I washed and everything, and then I like

862
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 7: looked up online.

863
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: Like what should you do if this happens?

864
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 7: And it really it kind of just said like leave

865
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 7: it for like four weeks and then you know, see

866
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 7: how it goes. So we've done that, and then that

867
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 7: happened again.

868
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 3: So it happened again.

869
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, madam, I'm scared.

870
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, no, I'm with you, man. I don't think

871
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 3: you should have I don't think you should ever touch

872
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: a penis ever again. I think you just you just

873
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: off limits. You know, maybe a year. Can you go

874
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: a year without touching your penis?

875
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: That's gonna be hard to think. Ironically.

876
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 3: Are you are you Irish? What are you?

877
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: I'm Scottish?

878
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 3: Oh we wee. Yeah, yeah, that's terrified. What did the

879
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 3: doctors tell you? They said, okay, so you here's what

880
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: I would have done. I would have gone back to

881
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 3: that doctor that told you, uh what four days? How many?

882
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 3: How long did the doctor tell you?

883
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: No, it was just like online, like I just seen

884
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: that online because I was.

885
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 3: Like, this is something hey, listen, listen, this is something

886
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 3: you go see a doctor in person. For this is

887
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 3: not a This is not a thing you ask chat

888
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 3: GPT about. Okay, go to a fucking doctor and tell

889
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 3: them to grab Have a doctor grab your penis and

890
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 3: stare at it with their eyes in person. Okay, this

891
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: is not an online issue. Okay, this is not ah

892
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 3: a digital doctor calling. All right, you're fucking dick ripped

893
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: in half, my brother. They have doctors in Scotland.

894
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: They do, they do.

895
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 7: But yeah, man, it's uh, it's something like eighteen months

896
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 7: to get like a clinical like doctor to see you.

897
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

898
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 3: Hold on, okay, all right, two things. Two things. There's

899
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: no way you need you have to wait a year

900
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 3: and a half to have a doctor look at your penis.

901
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: Is that's really true?

902
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 7: No, So I don't I don't know. To be fair,

903
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 7: that is a lie. A doctor has looked and touched

904
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 7: my penis. But to get like a professional urologist to like,

905
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 7: because my doctor was like, you're gonna have to get circumcised, mate,

906
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 7: So like, yeah.

907
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 3: Did your doctor look at your did your doctor look

908
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 3: at your penis after it got ripped?

909
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: Yeah?

910
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 3: Okay, well I thought you said you saw a doctor

911
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 3: on the internet.

912
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 7: No, Just so we have like the NHS here, and

913
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 7: they have a bunch of like web articles on lots

914
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 7: of different things.

915
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 3: So hold on. So, brother, you're confusing me. Did you

916
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 3: go to did you go to a doctor office and

917
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 3: have a doctor in person look at your penis?

918
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: I've done both.

919
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 7: So after the first time, I googled it and then

920
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 7: it said wait four weeks.

921
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: So I waited four weeks and.

922
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 7: Then when it happened again, I was like, fuck this,

923
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 7: I'm going to the doctor today.

924
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 3: And what did the doctor say?

925
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 7: You know, he kind of said that everything looked all

926
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 7: tip top to him, but that you know, it's it's

927
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 7: not normal for that to happen. So he was going

928
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 7: to refer me to a urologist to have a look

929
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 7: at it.

930
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 3: He said, you should get circumcised.

931
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

932
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: Hi am brother, welcome. Yeah for you, I'll throw you.

933
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 3: I'll throw I'll throw you and your dick a bar

934
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 3: mitzvah dude, and yeah it'll you'll it'll never be uh,

935
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 3: I'll never rip again.

936
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that?

937
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 3: How do I feel like getting circumcised?

938
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 7: It was that like when you're young, you get it.

939
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 3: Being circumcised is great, dude, you know, I think it's

940
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 3: it's uh, it's it's always good to have less stuff.

941
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 3: I think I think stuff burdens you, and that includes foreskin.

942
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's uh, it's definitely burden. Yeah, it's

943
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 7: getting in the way, that's for sure.

944
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 3: But you know, so your doctor, So your doctor told you,

945
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: all right, uh, just don't touch your dick for a

946
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 3: year and a half while you're waiting to see urologist.

947
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: That's what they told you.

948
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 7: No, my doctor said, he said, like, go for it.

949
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 7: He's just like, see what happens. So we actually happened, Bro.

950
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 3: You're all right. You know, people talk so much shit

951
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 3: about the American healthcare system. Your doctor looked at your

952
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 3: ripped dick and said, just go for it and see

953
00:49:59,200 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 3: what happens.

954
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, basically, and we have we have had sex.

955
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 3: A doctor told you that, Okay, what happened.

956
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 7: Like, I've been just like taking a gentle right now

957
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 7: for the clear reason of not wanting to, you know,

958
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 7: tear it to shreds again. So yeah, I don't know,

959
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 7: we'll just use their way into it. But yeah, I'm

960
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 7: fucking scared of like using it.

961
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: Man. It's not where I want to be.

962
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 3: In like well, brother, I got it. Well, why don't

963
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 3: you do this? Why don't you get really good at

964
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 3: oral sex? Right? You don't use for that? Yeah, you don't.

965
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 3: You don't have to use you don't have to use

966
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 3: a penis for that.

967
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: I've been I've been training, so to speak.

968
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: I bet this is a good thing for for your

969
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 3: partner because you've become a you've become a more gentle lover,

970
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 3: and b you you've practiced your oral sex skills.

971
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: So uh those really important.

972
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

973
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 3: Life is all about perspective, and that's the perspective that

974
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: I would have on it if I was you.

975
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I think that's that's a great mindset to have.

976
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 3: I can't believe your doctor said just have sex and

977
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 3: see what happens. That's crazy.

978
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

979
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 7: I did kind of think it was a bit weird,

980
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 7: But you know, he's not been totally wrong.

981
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: Like we have had sex, like we have taken a

982
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: gentle but it's been fine. So so far, so good. Yeah.

983
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 7: I was staying away from that freaky ship for a while,

984
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 7: that's for sure.

985
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I definitely wait until you see the urologist,

986
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 3: until you start tying each other up.

987
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: Bringing the apes the handcuffs, so we put away.

988
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 3: Well is there anything else you I say to the

989
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 3: people of the computer before before you continue living your

990
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 3: life in Scotland.

991
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: Well, I hope you have a good weekend coming up.

992
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: Last man, I'll see you when you're in Glasgow.

993
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 3: Oh, rock and all. I'm excited. I'm excited. Number round two,

994
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 3: Round two. All right, I'll bring you up on stage

995
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 3: and you can show your bloody cock to everyone on

996
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:17,879
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Speaker 6: So I was s lipping with this dude in this

1008
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 6: apartment that we rent it out together. I thinks just

1009
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 6: get a little messy.

1010
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: He had this dog.

1011
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 6: She's a pit bull, so she wasn't taking a dog

1012
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 6: out or anything. And there was fucking shit piles and piss,

1013
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 6: you know, accumulating in the living room. I'm just gonna

1014
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 6: leave and disappear and just leave him with this mess.

1015
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 6: I don't want to.

1016
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: Deal with this ship, Okay.

1017
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I got a couple questions. One is like, okay,

1018
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 3: so his name is is your your name is on

1019
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 3: a lease with this dude?

1020
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 6: I assume no, it's not.

1021
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 3: Okay, So you had this little handshake deal with him,

1022
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 3: and your your your rationale is like, I'm not going

1023
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 3: to pay him this last bit of rent because he

1024
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 3: didn't keep up his end of the deal, which would be,

1025
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 3: you know, an unwritten part of the deal, but an

1026
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 3: implied part of the deal is I'll pay you rent,

1027
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 3: but you have to not cover the apartment in dog piss.

1028
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1032
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1034
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