1 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: All right, guys, welcome to Always Hungry from My Heart Radio. 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: My name is Bobby Flay, and I'm here with my 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: daughter and co host, and I'm always Hungry. Sophie and 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: I gather around my stove to cook together. Well you cook, 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: I asked the questions, and eat the food and does 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: any food left? We come to the table together to 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: share a meal, connect as a family, and tell the 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: stories that matter to us. Okay, So here we're talking 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: about oven too table, which has been a way that 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: I've been cooking for a very long time the first 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: time I started cooking of into table dishes. Let me 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: just let me just define exactly what I'm talking about. 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: Something that you put in the oven in a in 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: some sort of of improved dish. It could be a 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: casuela that you'd see like in either you know, Mexico 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: or Spain, so to speak. Um, you know those are 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: those earthenware terra cotta like dishes, um that are of improof. 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: Or it could be a castor old dish. It could 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: be a Pyrex dish. Um. It could be an oval 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: gratin dish, uh, you know, stoneware. It could also be 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: cast iron, like a regular cast iron pan or a pot, 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: or it could be an enamel coated um cast iron 23 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: pan and pot like you know, like like lake Husay 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: or stop or something like that. Um. Any of those 25 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 1: work really well. Some of them are pretty prettier than others. 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: The old school ones are the pyrex ones. You know 27 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: what those look like most of the time they're clear, 28 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: they look like glass bowls, but they're actually ovenproof, you know, 29 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: to a certain temperature. And so the idea here is 30 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: that you make, you make something in these vessels, you 31 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: put them in the oven to finish to to finish 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: cooking them. When they're done, you take them out of 33 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: the oven and you put them in the middle of 34 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: the table, so it's oven to table. So you're not 35 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: transferring a bunch of things and creating a lot of 36 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, dishes, and you know, and you're taking out steps. 37 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: And there's also something really I think very comforting and 38 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: home you at it great for Sunday night dinner, is 39 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: great for family style dinners, just great for anything. Really. 40 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I cook out of my pizza oven a lot. 41 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: And the thing about that, listen to pizza oven is 42 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: is a luxury to have, So I don't want to say, 43 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: it's not a good thing to have. But the problem 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: with them is that it takes you three hours to 45 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: heat them. So if you're just gonna cook pizza in them, 46 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: you better cook a lot of pizza. Like, you don't 47 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: turn your oven on for one pizza. It just doesn't. 48 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: It's it's a waste of energy. And so what I 49 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: do is when I when I'm gonna fire up my 50 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: pizza oven, what I do is I try to is 51 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: I try to do a lot of things out of 52 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: the pizza oven so I don't waste the energy. And 53 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: it's an amazing it's an amazing piece of equipment. It 54 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: gets incredibly hot. It's very very useful. So if I'm 55 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: gonna make pizzas, I'm also gonna like I can cook 56 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: a steak in a cash on iron pan, I can 57 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: do a pasta in a in a caswell or some 58 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: earthenware dish and serve you know, a baked pasta. Um. 59 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: You know. One of the things that I like to 60 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: do is I like to little appetizers over the table 61 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: as well, not just entrees. So I do this dish 62 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: where it's like roasted mushrooms and goat cheese with some 63 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: fresh thyme, maybe some chili oil. So you just think, 64 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: think about it this way, right, So you have like 65 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: let's say, no, not like a dip roasted mushrooms. So 66 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: you take like, oh, the mushrooms are the main last, 67 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: the mushrooms in the main event. So yes, but think 68 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: about this way. So you have sliced This is actually 69 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: interesting because this is like a little bit like that 70 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: TikTok dish with the feta cheese. And I'll explain to 71 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: you about this in a minute. I want I'm gonna 72 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: paint the picture for you. You have shataki mushrooms, you 73 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: have oyster mushrooms, you have cremini mushrooms. They're all sliced up. 74 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: You see them in a in a bowl with like 75 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: some olive oil, salt and pepper and some fresh garlic. 76 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: You lay them into a earthenware dish that you're gonna 77 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: put in the oven one layer across. You take a 78 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: slice of cheese like out of a out of a log, 79 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: put it right in the middle. You sprinkle some fresh 80 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: thyme over it, some extra virgin olive oil, salt, and pepper, 81 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: maybe a chili pepper or to put it into the oven. 82 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: So what happens the mushrooms start to roast, the juices 83 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: start to melt together, the fresh time starts to right, 84 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: and then what happens to the goat cheese. Well, the 85 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: goat cheese doesn't have a lot of liquid in it, 86 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: so it melts, but it doesn't melt and run. It 87 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: just gets soft. Okay, so now and it gets a 88 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: little brown on top. Today you take it out of 89 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 1: the oven and you mix it up and you serve 90 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: that on like some toast, goat cheese, mushrooms, garlic time 91 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: say less, yes, right, yes, maybe like splash a little 92 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: aged balsonamic vinegar on top of it. Game time. That's 93 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: a really good appetizer. And then the classic eggplant pamagana. 94 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: Now this is not egg plant parmesan, which is the 95 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: Italian American version where there's lots of mozzarella, cheese and 96 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: tomato sauce on top of it. Basically, in Italy you'll 97 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: see like zucchini parmigiano, or you'll see eggplant parmigiano um 98 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: artich choked parmigiano, And basically what you're what you're getting 99 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: is maybe like a little bit of tomato with thin 100 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: slices of eggplant that have been roasted and some parmegiano 101 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: or regiano cheese. That's it. So it's not a very 102 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: big melted cheese dish. It's most it's really about the 103 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: eggplant or the zucchini or the artichokes. And that's a 104 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,559 Speaker 1: that's another really good dish to do of the table 105 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: as well, comes out really nicely. All right, Sophie. We're 106 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: making a baked pasta, which is basically a pasta that 107 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: you cook almost all the way through and then you 108 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: put it in some sort of earthenware dish or casserole 109 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: or something like you know, um of improof to get 110 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: it crispy well, to bake it in the middle and 111 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: then also get a crusty on the outside, and then 112 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: and then it's great to serve it right in the 113 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: middle of the turble. Alright. So basically what I did 114 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: was I I'm sort of saying, so I'm saying some 115 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: how to Talian sausage. So this is gonna be how 116 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: to Italian sausage. A vodka sauce, which is a tomato 117 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: cream sauce with vodka in one of your favorite so broccoli, Rob, 118 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna have some fontina cheese rolling through it, and 119 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna put some parmesan and some mucharella on top, 120 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: and we're gonna bake it all right, So I have 121 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: the how to Italian sausage. You're gonna get that nice 122 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: and crusty cooked all the way through, and we're gonna 123 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: save some of the fat from the sausage because that's 124 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: it's going to add more flavor all through the pasta. 125 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: All right. Then I'm gonna take tomato sauce that I 126 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: have made right into the sausage fat and a flash 127 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: and vodka stuff, and then you let the alcohol cook 128 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: out of the vodka to the tomato sauce. I know 129 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: you love this dish. And then you can use heavy 130 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: cream and creme frash. And we need to heavy cream 131 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: because that's what I have. Let me sure the vodka 132 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: cooks out a little bit cream just as touched. So 133 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: you want the sauce to be kind of like like 134 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: a pink color. How's that color? Beautiful? So what you 135 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: want light? I know your vodka sauce aficionado. I'm trying 136 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 1: to think about, like, how did you plate things at below? 137 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of memories from below. You 138 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: don't know. I have a lot of memories in the 139 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:08,239 Speaker 1: kitchen at Bolo So Bolow was open from for fifteen years, 140 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: so that would be two thousand and nine or something 141 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, we had a fifteen year lease and 142 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: when the lease was up, they actually knocked the building. Now, 143 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: so we had an oven in the dining room. There 144 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: was an oven station next to the bar. Yes, it 145 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: was like about five or ten feet from the bar, 146 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: by about ten feet from the bar. And so we 147 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: had the indoor kitchen, which was a very small kitchen. 148 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: But then we had this kitchen in the dining room 149 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: and it was it was an oven station, and we 150 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: did a lot of these oven to table dishes and yeah, 151 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: and and and that's you know, that's that was. You know, 152 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: it was a Spanish restaurant. And when I say Spanish, 153 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't completely authentic, of course, because I'm from New 154 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: York City. So I was doing the New York City 155 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: version of what I thought, as you know, Spanish with 156 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: Spanish ingredients. And of course I was inspired by all 157 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: these classic dishes and you know, one of them was 158 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, shrimp and garlic, which is a classic one. 159 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: And we served the mushroom dishes, and I did something 160 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: called um I did a uh this roasted eggplant and 161 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: Montego cheese salad where we roasted thin layers of baby 162 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: Italian eggplant with manchego cheese and oregano, like layer after layer, 163 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: so it was like ten or twelve layers and we 164 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: roasted in the it's so good, and then the spalsamic 165 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: laze on top. I'll make that fear at some point, 166 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: But how did you plate things that below table? But 167 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: like in what will you say? And what in like 168 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: insuelas a lot of cazuellas. Yeah, not everything, I mean 169 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: something balls and plates and stuff like that. But but 170 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,239 Speaker 1: we we definitely served a lot of things in Cazuela's, 171 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: just like we did at Gatto. I feel like I 172 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: remember when they were closing, when you were closing below, 173 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: Like I was there on a day when like someone 174 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: came in and was like can I buy these chairs 175 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: in this table from your dining room? Like I like 176 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: proposed to, like my my wife. Does that happen a lot? Well? 177 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: What does what happened to? People get proposed? Stop it? 178 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: Like do people like make requests like that? Like when 179 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: one of your restaurants has been closing or shut down 180 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: or something like. Do people make requests like that? Every 181 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: once in a while, something like that happens, But really 182 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: what happens is like when Masa Grille closed after twenty 183 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: seven years, Okay, we announced that we were closing, and 184 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: we announced that we were closing because well, first of all, 185 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: we wanted the customers don't understand that so they weren't 186 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: making reservations months at ahead of time. And also we 187 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: wanted people to to have a chance to to to 188 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: come back one one last time. And you can imagine 189 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: after twenty seven years, some significant events took place there 190 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: for people. You know, people got engage their people had 191 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: their first anniversary there, people got decided to get divorced there. 192 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it was all kinds of things. I mean, 193 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: you know, there's like you know, and so like what 194 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: happens is people people tell me stories all the time 195 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: about special things that have happened in my restaurants that 196 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: are significant to their history of their life, and it's 197 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: it's just sweet, It is really nice. I mean, like, 198 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: do you have any idea how many engagement rings I've 199 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: like hidden in desserts in my life? Oh? My God, 200 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that. That happens all the time. 201 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so funny. I feel like you 202 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: only see that in movies. Didn't really realize people do that. 203 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: Can we talk to Bobby, Yeah, what's up? Hey, listen, 204 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get engaged tonight. Can you hide this into 205 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: some of the food. I'm like, yeah, you just don't 206 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: let her eat it, but you know, and so yeah, 207 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, like they're eating like 208 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: this chocolate cake, and then you know, usually i'd make 209 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: it pretty obvious. It's not like a king cake like 210 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: New Orleans. We have to go find the ring, but like, 211 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's more like, um, you know, like 212 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: it would be like a slice of chocolate cake and 213 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: like right on top of the cake would be this 214 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: like beautiful diamond ring. You know, It's like you know, 215 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: and then she like freaks out, how's that color beautiful? Yeah? 216 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: Now you're a vodka sauce aficionado. And then we're gonna 217 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: take the cooked reggae Tony, put it in the sauce. 218 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: Put in the sauce, and then the sausages that are 219 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: cooked the blanche broccoli. Rob gonna cut this up a 220 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: little bit salt and pepper. Put the broccy robin there 221 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: that's blanched, and then we have some fresh regano. Drop 222 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: that in there, fresh Italian parsley. The bland looks a 223 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: little dry, so I'm gonna have a little more sauce 224 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: and a little pasta. Work nice. So so basically, so 225 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: now that's just heated up. I'm gonna put this in 226 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: a mixing bowl. Then we're gonna add some some grated 227 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: fontina cheese into the pasta, some parmigiano, a little splash 228 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: of cream in there, and then we're gonna mix this 229 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: up and we're gonna or this into a the earthenware 230 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: dish of improof. Wow, it can't we to eat? This 231 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: looks so good. Then you're gonna take so mozzarella that's 232 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: great and put it up right on top. Yeah, and see, 233 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: this is what's great about this is you can prep 234 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: this to right to this point, and then when your 235 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: guests get there, you can put it in the oven. 236 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: You know, if someone just happens to come over, I 237 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: think you need to find some friends. I'm gonna put 238 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: this in the oven for like twenty minutes until it 239 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: gets heated all the way through and then the cheese 240 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: on the on top melts, gets a little crusty. Uh. 241 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: And then like in terms of entrees for like oven 242 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: to table stuff like you know, baked pastas is clearly 243 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: one of the one of the one of the most 244 00:13:54,840 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: popular things to do. Enchiladas. You know, you you take chicken, 245 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: roll them into the tortillas, stack them into a into 246 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: a cast role dish, cheese, sauce layers, and then you know, 247 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: you bake it in the oven. It's delicious. You know. 248 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: Lasagna is another good one. Then there's also like like 249 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: I want you to think of the oven the table. 250 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: It's not such a big deal because it's really not 251 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: a big deal. I just want I like, just you 252 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: have to have the right things you don't actually, yes, 253 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: you do. Like you can do long cooking things like 254 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: if you did like a pork like like in the 255 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: in the in the winter. I like making pork and 256 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: green chili stew, which is like pork shoulder. It takes 257 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: a long time to cook it, like hours, makes your 258 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: house smell good for the whole day, like green chilies, tomatos, 259 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: some chicken stock. Just let it cook until the pork 260 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: gets really really soft, you know, you cube them and 261 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: then you can serve it with like a bunch of 262 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: garnishes on the side. But you can just take the 263 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: entire pot of that pork and green chili stew it 264 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: put it right in the middle of the table. You 265 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: have to transfer it. Same thing like if you make 266 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: chili like I do, like a having black bean chili, 267 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: and then you serve garnishes on the side, but you 268 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: served you served the stew or the chili right in 269 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: the pot. I love making chili that I can make 270 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: a recipe for us to use ground beef or turkey, 271 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: oh turkey, Okay. I actually made a vegetarian Actually I 272 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: did it on the Today Show. I made a vegetarian 273 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: um chili on Beat Bobby Flay was challenged to it, 274 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: and then actually I won the I wanted the base 275 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: of it instead of me was eggplant and mushrooms Bella 276 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: mushrooms because they're very firm, like diced up and then 277 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: eggplant also diced up and it actually up really really well. 278 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: It was delicious. And then I did on the Today's Show. 279 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: And here I'll give you here some examples of some 280 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: good baked pastas you're ready, go for it. I'm gonna 281 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: say them slowly. So I mets a riggatoni, which is 282 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: like a half half sized riggatoni, So like you know, 283 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: riggatoni is usually long. That's what you're eating there, So 284 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: half size of rigatoni with porcini mushrooms and like a 285 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: caccio pepe crust. You like that. So it's like peccorino, 286 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: little mozzarella and then some black pepper. Of course, I'm 287 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: gonna make that perfect this weekend. Then, um, just like 288 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: a classic room with pennay tomatoes and mozzarella and basil. 289 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: You put the mozzarella on top, let it bake. It's delicious. 290 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: And these are all sort of like I would say, 291 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: fancier versions than like then, Like what I think of 292 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: is the the the Italian American Stalwart, which is big ZD. 293 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: You know that has like ricotta and tomato and delicious, 294 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: serves a purpose. Then I like using shells me too. 295 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: I love stuffed shells. This one has ricotta, fontina cheese, 296 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: tomatoes and Calabrian chilies. Where'd you get that one? What 297 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: do you mean? I made it up? Oh? Can you 298 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: see me the recipe? Yeah, it's got out our front 299 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: tomato sauce and Colobian chilies. And then I don't know, 300 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: have you ever have you ever had um? I buy 301 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: these squid inc shells, the little the smaller shells, and 302 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: they're they're black squid ink. So I like making a 303 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 1: sort of like a crab gratin. So it's like a 304 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: creamy crab sauce in with the squid ink shells, but 305 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: the shells are smaller, right, They're smaller, And then it's 306 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: like it's like creamy and there's like anyway, and then 307 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: I do like a lemon and chovy bread crumb on top. Good. 308 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: You should make that one. And then this one we're 309 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: eating today is the rigatoni with the vodka sauce and 310 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: the broccoli rob and the hot Italian sausage. Delicious. And 311 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: then one more or quiette you know, do you know 312 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: what orchetta means? Little ears? Oh cute? And make that 313 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: with like the Bolognese sauce and parmesan on top, so 314 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: it's like a it's a meat sauce. I feel like 315 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: I always have it with like broccoli rob and sausage. 316 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: What that's a classic. Actually, that's a classic dish you Rob, 317 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: sausage archaete tomato cream situation. Yeah, it's a version of that. 318 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: So I'll show you what it looks like when it 319 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: comes out. Is it ready yet? Oh? It's looking good? Whoa, 320 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: oh Dad? That looks sick, doesn't it? Yeah? Let me 321 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: get a picture. Looks great, doesn't it. I'm happy with that. Yep, 322 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: all right, I'll bring it over to the the podcasting table. Okay, perfect. 323 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: How's the ovened table pasta? As pasta is so good? 324 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: It's kind of you know, listen for you. I didn't 325 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: really take a risk. I used that tomato vodka sauce, creamy, 326 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: creamy tomato vodka sauce that you love. There's sausages, is broccoli, Rob, 327 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: it's baked crispy cheese. But this is a good dish 328 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: for you to make it home. How do you feel 329 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: about of the table desserts? Harder? No? Not actually not really? 330 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: That's actually not a bad idea you could do. You 331 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: could do like a baked cake in these casuelas really 332 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: well or as who flay really is a hard but 333 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: you could do it. But you could do like games 334 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: known for your bake ame. Okay, I don't know if 335 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: you saw my um morning buns. No, but I'll never 336 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: forget my dry birthday cake? Was it? Really? It was terrible. 337 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: It wasn't terrible. It was just like, wow, you try 338 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: good one. What kind of cake was it? It was 339 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: like vanilla with chocolate, I think. I mean, the only 340 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: reason why I can give you a hard time about 341 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: it is because that basically never happens. So I mean, well, yeah, 342 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: my baking. My baking is just so it's like it's 343 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: one of those crazy things where like when I decide, 344 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: which is very rare, when I decided to bake something, 345 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: I literally sabotage myself, Like I go into it knowing 346 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: that I'm going to mess it up. I don't just 347 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: follow the I don't just follow like the recipe of 348 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: some great pastry chef. Oh no, I have to like 349 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 1: take a shortcut or change something or you know, substitute 350 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: one flower for the other. Because because it's like it's 351 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: almost like if I don't sabotage myself, I'm not going 352 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: to be happy about it. It's ridiculous. But you can 353 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: definitely do in the table. You can do like like 354 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: like like like like a chocolate lava cake. And because 355 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: well we work really well. Actually, and actually what's really nice. 356 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: You can set the batter. You can you can put 357 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: the batter in the caswells, get small ones and have 358 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: it ready and then just take some egg whites and 359 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: then fold it in and then put it in the 360 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: in the oven when you're when you're ready to order. 361 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: It's almost like baking the cake to order. And he goes, 362 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, basically from the oven to the table. That 363 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: actually works, and just serve a lot of vanilla gelatto 364 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: next to it. You know. The other thing I like 365 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: to do is I actually like to make um. I 366 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: like to cook steaks and cast iron and serve them 367 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: right into the especially like a like a Porterhouse steak. 368 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: I like, I like cooking Porterhouse steaks in a cast 369 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: iron pan. What's one of my actually, it's one of 370 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: my favorite. It's one of my most well known recipes. 371 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: It's Katie Lee makes it once a week and I 372 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: have to say every time she makes it and post it. 373 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: She's like, Bobby taught me this. It's a Porterhouse steak 374 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: that I cook in a cash iron pan. And the 375 00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: way that you cook it is really it's unorthodox, like 376 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: it goes against it goes against the grain of like 377 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: of like good technique, but it works incredibly well. What 378 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: is it? I'm not going to tell. You have to 379 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: look it up, can you just you want to know? Okay, 380 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: So you take a porterhouse steak, which is like it 381 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: it looks like a t bone and it has you know, 382 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: the filet on one side of the bone. On the 383 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: other side of the bone is a strip steak. You 384 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: know what a portouse looks like. Okay, So you get 385 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: a cash iron pan. You put it on top of 386 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 1: the stove. You get it ripping hot, some good cooking 387 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: oil like canola or something like that, lots of salt 388 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 1: and pepper on both sides. You put it down on 389 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: one of the one of the sides, and you let 390 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:41,239 Speaker 1: it like just get crusty as can be, you know, 391 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: like it's like it's almost like it's like deep frying 392 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: in the in the oil, really crusty. Don't flip it. 393 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: Let it get crusty. It's probably gonna take about five 394 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: four or five minutes. Okay, turn it over, let it 395 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: cook for about a minute. Take it out. You slice 396 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: it on the off the bone, straight down on both 397 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: sides into thick slices. And then you put it back 398 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: on the bone and back in the pan, so you're 399 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: refitting it back on but it's now sliced and raw. 400 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: It's raw. Then I take some unsalted butter, whole butter, 401 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: put it on top of the steak to cover the steak, 402 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: salt and pepper, and then I put it in the broiler, okay, 403 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: which is what we did with this posta today. And 404 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: then what happens is is the butter melts, It gets 405 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: really hot. It melts and it goes in between the 406 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: crevices of the steak and it basically based and cooks 407 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: the steak perfect medium rare. And then you take it out. 408 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't take long. You can overcook this very quickly. 409 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: You take it out and you take a spoon and 410 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,239 Speaker 1: you and you take the take the juices from the 411 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: butter and the steak that have now become one, and 412 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: you put it on top of the you based the 413 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: steak on top, and then you serve it right in 414 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: the cast on your pants. Now, the cast on your 415 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: pants can be very hot. So if you're gonna put 416 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: it on your table and make sure you have like 417 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: a tribute or some sort or or you know, a 418 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: towel or something, and then you serve right in the 419 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: middle and it's like it's it's it's a superstar because 420 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: it smells great, it's sizzling, and it's the best steak 421 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: you've ever tasted. I learned it from actually going When 422 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: I was shooting a show called Food Nation, I went 423 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: to Peter Luger in Brooklyn, one of the most famous 424 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: steakhouses in the world. Also just f y, I gonna 425 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: be my neighborhood Caesar's Palace. They're opening at the end 426 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: of twenty two. Lugar, I can't wait. I already sent 427 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: him a note. I'll trade you like a whole fish 428 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: and a plate of pasta for a porterhouse anytime. I'm 429 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: ready for it. Anyway, I was there and I went 430 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: into the kitchen and I saw them do it. I 431 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: was like, what are they doing? Oh? And what were 432 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: they doing? They were making perfect steaks, right of course. 433 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: And so you know, I've told the story a number 434 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: of times, but Appetite did a big story about this. 435 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: You know, when I was opening Goto. One of the 436 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: things that we talked about, interesting, could I do that? 437 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: Of course? Is that like to advanced? No, you like 438 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: I want you to be a little bit more confident 439 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: to stove if you if it listen, Sophie, if you 440 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: mess up, it doesn't matter, no, but then I have 441 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: to do it again. You don't. It's go to go 442 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 1: to be hungry. It's not gonna be that bad. Like, 443 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: no matter what, you're gonna get through it. You're gonna 444 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: have something that you can eat. It might not be perfect, 445 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: but that's the way you do this. There's no substitute 446 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: for experience you have. You have to do these things, 447 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: these things over and over. Always Hungry is created by 448 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: Bobby Flay and Sophie Flay. Our executive producer is Christopher Hasiotis. 449 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: Always Hungry is produced, edited, and mixed by Jonathan how Stressler. 450 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: Always Hungry is engineered by Sophie Flay. For more podcasts 451 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: from my Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app 452 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 1: Apple Podcast wherever you listen to your favorite shows.