1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Every day, that little damage that's doing damage to your DNA, 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: that's doing damage to your collagen down the road. That's 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: why you're going to get wrinkles. So you know, the 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: earlier you can hop on this, the better. 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: Hey everyone, Emily Abody here bringing you another installment of 6 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: Hurdle Moment from Hurdle Today. I am electrified. Wow exciting adjective. 7 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: I decided to go with their I'm amped to chat 8 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: with Renee at Rouleau. She is the founder and CEO 9 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: of Renee Rouleau Skincare. She's also an esthetician and a 10 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: skincare expert, so I can think of no one better 11 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: to be chatting with to get hold of your skincare 12 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: questions answered. I will be the first one to volunteer 13 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: this information. I am no skincare with. In fact, over 14 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 2: the last god year two years, I have been definitely 15 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: dabbling in a bunch of different products, but still haven't 16 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: landed on the goldilocks routine. So I'm really excited to 17 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: dive into a lot of really good information today with Renee. 18 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: We cover everything from what should the basic to. 19 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: Be for someone who like me, may not have their 20 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: own perfect skincare routine We also talk about what those 21 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: small bumps might be on your forehead if you are 22 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: working out all. 23 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: The time and you feel like they may not be 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: going away ever. 25 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: We cover mask met and retinol in anti aging products 26 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: and if you should be using them, collagen and if 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: there's a place for it in your diet, And on 28 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 2: the diet note, we talk about if there are certain 29 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 2: foods that we should be avoiding if we want clearer skin. Seriously, 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: I learned so so much recording this. 31 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: That is the biggest understatement. 32 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: In today's episode, Renee mentions the Renee Rolow Skincare blog. 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: I will make sure to link to that in today's 34 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: show notes and in the show notes today, I am 35 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: also putting a link to different organizations on Austin or 36 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: relief efforts. RENEE and the company is based out of Austin, 37 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: as many of you are aware of. I'm sure Texas 38 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: recently experienced a winter storm that has left many without 39 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: power or water. 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: Many are going hungry. 41 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: And do not have access to more food and water, 42 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: healthcare workers included, so the community over there rallying together 43 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: to support those in need. RENEE has a great page 44 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: on the site on where you can learn more on 45 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: where you can donate or volunteer in the Austin area. 46 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: As always, as you're listening today, make sure to tag 47 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: the podcast on social media at Fertile Podcast. I am 48 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: also over at Emily Abodi. With that, let's get to hurdling. 49 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: Today. I am talking to Renee Rollo. 50 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: She is an esthetician, a CEO, OH and founder of 51 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: Renee Ralow Skincare. 52 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 3: Hey, Renee, Hey, Emily. 53 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: Great to be here. 54 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: I am so amped and we have so much to cover, 55 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: so I will waste no time before we get into 56 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: the swing of things. Tell me a little bit about 57 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: Renee Ralow Skincare. What do you guys offer? 58 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: So I have a company that's based in Austin called 59 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: Renee Reulau Skincare. We've been in business, coming up on 60 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: twenty five years this August, and we are one hundred 61 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: percent e commerce company selling direct to consumer. We ship 62 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: all over the world. I have my own skincare line. 63 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: I'm very hands on with product development. I've taken a 64 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: lot of cosmetic chemistry courses at UCLA and I've been 65 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: a practicing esthetician for over thirty years, so I have 66 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: a lot of skin knowledge. My line is based on 67 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: nine different skin types. I learned early on as an 68 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: esthetician working with clients that skins a little more complicated 69 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: than dry normal oily. There's a little more going on, 70 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: you know, qan. You know adult acne or and you 71 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: know hyper pigmentation and post breakup mark simorization, and you 72 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: know dehydration and all sorts of things. 73 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: I have a confession. We'll have two confessions. 74 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: The first confession is that I don't have a solid 75 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: skincare routine. 76 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: Okay, we'll talk about that in a second. 77 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 2: The second confession is I have in my life purchased 78 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: one what I would say to be more pricey skincare 79 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: option or skincare solution. 80 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 3: And that was the anti bump that you make. 81 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, awesome. Yeah, that's a number one best seller. 82 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 2: I was dealing with some cistic acne and one of 83 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 2: my girlfriends, who works at a lure, was like, this 84 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 2: is what you need, this is it, and so I 85 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: spent like, I think how much does that retail for? 86 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: I think it's like forty six. Maybe I went for it. 87 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, I trust you, I'm 88 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: going to do it. And she was right. She was 89 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: so right. 90 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's our number one best selling product for a reason. 91 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: The person that's like me that, here's the sentence, I 92 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: don't really have much of a substantial skincare routine. 93 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: Talk to me about basics. 94 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: If someone can identify that way, where do they even begin. 95 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: So let's look at it from like kind of a 96 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: skin tip standpoint, and then we'll kind of talk about products. 97 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: But the first thing is you have to stop the 98 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: UV damage. So what we know about, you know, keeping 99 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: skin healthy and youthful and glowing and all the things 100 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: that people want is the number one enemy is UV light. 101 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: It is not it's not smoking, it's not genetics, it's 102 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: not even passage of time. It is UV light seeing 103 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: the skin. So UV light certainly is sunlight, but it's 104 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: also daylight. So right now it's winter and where a 105 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: lot of people live, it's cloudy, but it's still light outside, 106 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: and that is still you won't get a you know, 107 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: you can't get a sunburn necessarily on a cold winter day, 108 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: but you still get the UVA rays. And those are 109 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: actually the ones that are responsible for aging more so 110 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: than the UV B rays. Those are what give you know, 111 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: the skin color like a sunburn or a sun tan 112 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: so the most. So let's just pretend you never even 113 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: wash your face, didn't even ever do anything. The biggest 114 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: impact you're going to have on your skin is wearing 115 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: sun protection. So the mistake that people make though is, 116 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: you know, first of all, not wearing sunscreen in the winter. 117 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: So obviously I've cleared that up. You've got to do that. 118 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: You also get UV rays inside your home or inside 119 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: you know, a car or subway or whatever. Anytime you 120 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: or your skin seas daylight, that's what you need to 121 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: kind of stop. So the key is about proper sun 122 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: application from sun up to sundown. So let's just say, 123 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, you wake up in the morning and you're like, 124 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go outside for a while. I'm gonna 125 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: go downstairs get coffee and you know whatever whatever I mean, 126 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: even at you know, seven in the morning, if you 127 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: have daylight coming in your windows, that's going to add 128 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: up over the course of a lifetime. So literally, the 129 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: first thing I do when I get up in the 130 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: morning is I get up, use the restroom, and I 131 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: will dust on a powder onto my face, like a 132 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: mineral powder, and I'll dust that on my face. This 133 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: is before I wash my teeth, you know, wash my 134 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: face before I brush my teeth, before I do shower, 135 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: before I do anything. Literally, it's the first thing I 136 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: do when I get up in the morning. That way, 137 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: when I go downstairs, you know, have a lazy morning, 138 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: don't feel like showering at whatever. My skin is protected. 139 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: I also live in a house that's almost a super 140 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: modern house and it's almost all glass, so it's especially 141 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: important because I get lots of light in my house. 142 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, so that's you know, that's a good thing 143 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: to think about. Also, you don't want to wash your 144 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: face at night and take your sunscreen off until it's 145 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: dark out, which most people don't, but still that's something good. 146 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: But proper sunscreen application means find when you like that's 147 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: not too greasy, not too heavy, that's agreeable with your skin, 148 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: that you like wearing. You have to apply it generously. 149 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: A lot of people think it's about the number, like, 150 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it's an SPF one hundred or whatever. 151 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter because if you use it sparingly, you're 152 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: just not going to get the proper sun protection. Plus 153 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: one hundred isn't protecting you twice of an SBF fifty 154 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: like people think anyway, So you need to apply it generously. 155 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: You can't, you know, a little dab won't do you. 156 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: And you also need to be wearing makeup every single day. 157 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: And let me explain again, because UV light year round 158 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: is you know, the biggest enemy of the skin. We 159 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: want to protect the skin from the UV light. So 160 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: people where they'll put on a moisturizer sunscreen hopefully apply 161 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: it generously. But it degrades during the day because your 162 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: skin has oil secretion and things like that. Certainly, if 163 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: you're outside in the direct sunlight, it's going to wear 164 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: off more quickly. But makeup in the form of a 165 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: liquid makeup, of foundation, maybe a powder, they all have 166 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: sun protective qualities in it. Even if it doesn't say it, 167 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't have sunscreen in it. So like powder, I 168 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: just use some cheapy one from Revlong first thing in 169 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: the morning. It has titanium dioxide in it and iron oxides, 170 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: which are sunscreen ingredients. The brand just chose not to 171 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: have it FDA approved as a sunscreen and they don't 172 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: market it that way. They market it just as a 173 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: setting powder or whatever. But it gives you V protection. 174 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: So something like that put on over sunscreen is an 175 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: insurance policy to ensure you're keeping that UV light off 176 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: the skin. Foundation makeup again, you know, if it has 177 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: if it says it has sunscreen in it, great, Even 178 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: if it doesn't say it has sunscreen in it, it 179 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: still does have sunscreen in it. And wearing some liquid 180 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: foundation makeup again is also an insurance policy to make 181 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: sure that your skin is stained protected from UV light. 182 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: And also new research is showing that may because the 183 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: iron oxides it has is preventing against blue light damage 184 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: as well, which we hear a lot about. So yeah, 185 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: so my best tip is for people to really wrap 186 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: their head around how can I stop the damage? Because 187 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: every day that little damage that's doing damage to your DNA, 188 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: that's doing damage to your collagen down the road, that's 189 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: why you're going to get wrinkles. So you know, the 190 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: earlier you can hop on this the better. 191 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: So interesting, and you mentioned moisturizer with SPF in it. 192 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: I was talking to an expert recently and they reiterated 193 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 2: the importance of not only using that moisturizer with the SBF, 194 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: but then using a separate SBF. 195 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: Would you agree with that? 196 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: So great question. So you want to think of the 197 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: skin if you think of like a sponge. So think 198 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: about the sponge that you know you wash the dishes 199 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: with when it's dry and you add water to it, 200 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: the sponge will fill up. But eventually, if you have 201 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: water from your sin, keep pouring on it, it just overflows, right, 202 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: So I like to look at the skin the same way. 203 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: The skin can only absorb so much. So that's why 204 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: also when people get into like layering products, you know 205 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: nine steps products, serum after serum after serum. Again, your 206 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: skin can only absorb so much. So knowing your skin 207 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: acts like a sponge, you don't want to give it 208 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: too much because then nothing's going to kind of work 209 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: after a while. So I recommend a moisturizer with a 210 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: sunscreen in it, because if you put on a moisturizer first, 211 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: that moisturizer non sunscreen is coating your skin cells. And 212 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: then if you put on a sunscreen, Granted it depends 213 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: on the type of sunscreen, they act kind of all 214 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: work differently, but depending on the sunscreen, you know, it 215 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: may not it may not properly cote all the cells 216 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: properly because you've already put a barrier underneath it. So 217 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: that's why I like a two in one. 218 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: Interesting, So you mentioned something that is one of the 219 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 2: most post popular questions that was coming in from the 220 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: listeners layering, especially when it comes to that ever popular 221 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: insta friendly nighttime skincare routine. Talk to me about the 222 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: quote unquote right way to go about putting things on 223 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: in the evening, like the what goes first, what goes second, 224 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: and you know how many steps there should be, and 225 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: we're talking again for that like entry level skincare human. 226 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: Yes, So the general rule after you wash your face 227 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: is you want to go thinnest to thickest. So if 228 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: you think about the consistency of products, that's the order 229 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: you want to go in. So in a perfect world, 230 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: this is what somebody would do. They would wash their face. 231 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: You know, cleansing is obviously super important. Ideally they would 232 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: use a water based alcohol free toner. So that's obviously 233 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: very thin. It's the consistency of water. The benefit of 234 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: toner is wipes off any cleanser residue to really make 235 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: sure you're getting the skin clean, getting makeup off. It 236 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: removes impure tap water, so salts, chlorines, and minerals that 237 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: can dehydrate the skin. When you think about a glass 238 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: shower door, that little white film that gets left on 239 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: your door, on your glass shower doors, that's like the crud. 240 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: You don't want that on your skin. They also, damp 241 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: skin is ten times more permeable, so after you apply, oh, 242 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: and you also want to leave it damp on the skin. 243 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: So when you put on your next product, which ideally 244 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: is a serum, and we'll talk a little bit more 245 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: about that in a second, when you put a serum 246 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: on and you seal it on damp skin, it's ten 247 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: times more permeable. So that may have an opportunity to 248 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: increase permeability of those active ingredients, so it might make 249 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: your serum last longer or work better, I should say. 250 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: And then also when you put on a serum and 251 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: then subsequently a moisturizer, when the skin is damp from 252 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: the toner, it's like giving your skin a drink of moisture, 253 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: so you get really hydrated. So so uh so tone or 254 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: ideally is important. And then next is to use one serum. 255 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: So there's this whole thing going on right now about layering, 256 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: and the problem with layering products is, let's just say 257 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: you put on one serum that has one active ingredient, 258 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: and then you layer on another serum because you're like, oh, 259 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: I want to try that ingredient, and then lay on 260 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: another serum. First of all, it's diluting all of those serums. 261 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: And because again your skin can act, you know, can 262 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: only absorb so much. So the first one is doing 263 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: all the heavy lifting. But then by the second one, 264 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: the third one, or some people do even four. It's 265 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: diluting all of them. They can absorb if you mix 266 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: them together, which some people do. If you mix two 267 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: serums together, you're getting fifty percent efficacy from each of 268 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: them because now you've diluted them. So I really believe 269 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: in using one serum and you have you know, maybe 270 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: that has a hero ingredient and that is your focus 271 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: for the night, and then maybe the next night use 272 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: a different serum that has a different focus, and the 273 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: next night a different serum with a different focus. That way, 274 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: it's kind of like eating a diet, right. You don't 275 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: want to be eating the same thing all the time. 276 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: You want to you know, get a variety of different 277 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: nutrients and so but you want them at one hundred percent. 278 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: So that's why you use one serum with one focus 279 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,119 Speaker 1: and then change it up at night with different focuses. 280 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: And I'm assuming in this process obviously consult with someone 281 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: who can best advise you as to what serums would 282 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: be best for your skin. 283 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: Consult with someone or if you go to rene reload 284 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: dot com and take the skin type quiz once, once 285 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: your skin type is identified, it's going to tell you 286 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: now we do. We do offer virtual skin consultation. So 287 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: for people who do want expert advice and more personal 288 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: advice from one of our in house estheticians, they can 289 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: do that. 290 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: Got it? Okay, So then you go from the serum 291 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 3: to right your. 292 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: Last step, which is your last step, and you know 293 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: you always want to use a moisturizer for your skin type. 294 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: The problem that I see some people make is, let's 295 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: just say they have acne and now they're using really 296 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: harsh products to dry out their skin. And now they're like, 297 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: oh my god, my skin is so dry because I've 298 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: been using all these harsh things. They have to use 299 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: a heavy moisturizer, you know, and they end up using 300 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: one for like dry skin that's not their skin type. 301 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: And so sometimes people can get clogged and add more 302 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: problems to their breakouts if they're not using the right moisturizer. 303 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: So the goal is if you have acne, you don't 304 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: have to dry out your skin, and I certainly have 305 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: great solutions for that on my line. But drying out 306 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: the skin is making the problem worse. Acne is a 307 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: skin disease of inflammation, and for you to overdry your 308 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: skin and make it uncomfortable and make it more inflamed 309 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: is not helping anything. Now, there's a time and a 310 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: place when you want to dry out the skin, for example, 311 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: with like a drying spot treatment right on a very 312 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: specific blemish to dry out the infection. That makes sense, 313 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: But you don't want to be wiping all these really 314 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: harsh drying things all over the face, especially on areas 315 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: where there's no breakouts present. And that's the problem using 316 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: all these harsh acne products as they're being put all 317 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: over the face and you don't need it all over 318 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: the face. So yeah, using a moisturizer for your skin type. 319 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: So that would be a good four step routine, literally, 320 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: you know, four products. I know it sounds like a lot, 321 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: but if you time it, you know it's like two 322 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: and a half minutes, super easy. 323 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: Should you be waiting a certain amount of time in 324 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 2: between applying each product. 325 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: So after you wash your face, you have a sixty 326 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: second window before moisture evaporation occurs. So you want to 327 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: after you wash your face, you want to get on 328 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: your next product immediately or at least within sixty seconds, 329 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: so that's super quick transition. Then wipe the toner over 330 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: the skin, leave a damp, apply your serum. Ideally you'll 331 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: wait like a minute before you put on your moisturizer. 332 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: Got you, got you? 333 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: And then I mean when I did start to implement 334 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 2: some sort of a routine that looked like this, although 335 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 2: again I'm still working on it here, but I noticed 336 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: and in my head was like, what are all these 337 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: influencers doing. I'm like walking out of the bathroom and 338 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 2: it's like not like everything isn't quote unquote rubbed in, 339 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: but like my face still needs like at least ten 340 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 2: minutes before I can like safely lay down on a pillow. 341 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 3: Is that wrong? Am I doing something wrong? 342 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: Well? No, I mean the skin's wet right right, so 343 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: it's sticky and you know, depending on what kind of 344 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: products you used on it. So yeah, I mean you 345 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: want to let your skin dry, you don't want to 346 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: just you know, I mean, yeah, it will feel kind 347 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: of gross to be sticking on a pillow. 348 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, am I the only one that's dealing with that? 349 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? That's funny. 350 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 2: The next question that came in the price range for 351 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 2: skincare products varies greatly. A lot of people their barrier 352 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 2: to entry into really working hard and committing to a 353 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: skincare routine is they're like, I don't know what I 354 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,239 Speaker 2: should spend on money on, what I shouldn't spend money on. 355 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 3: Is there anything to say. 356 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: For perhaps comparing some of the you know, brands you 357 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: might find in the in the drug store versus something 358 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: that you might find online or a more expensive company. 359 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean in general, there's great drug store 360 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: products there, great expensive products, right, It's all over the board. 361 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: There's also crappy drug store products and crappy expensive products. 362 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: So it's you know, there's no bias there. But the 363 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: key is about educating yourself. You want to be an 364 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: educated consumer, so when you purchase your product, you're educated 365 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: about it. And what I mean by that is, for example, 366 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: case in point a cleanser. Okay, there's you know, you 367 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 1: want to the main thing with a cleanser is you 368 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: don't want it to be high lathering, high foaming. You 369 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: want a low foaming cleanser. You want to look at 370 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: the bubbles. I realize when you're buying a product it's 371 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: hard to do this, but the general idea is the 372 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: smaller the bubbles, the less drying it is. The larger 373 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: the lather or larger the bubbles, the more drying it is. 374 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: But the key to make sure you're not having a 375 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: drying cleanser because you never want to wash your face, 376 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: and right out of the gate, you're dehydrating your skin 377 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: because now your products have to work even harder because 378 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: you just stripped it right. So, but the key is 379 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: to look for something called sulfate free. The word sulfate 380 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: free indicates that it doesn't use what's called sodium laurel 381 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: sulfate or sodium laures sulfate or ammonium laures sulfate or 382 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: ammonium laurel sulfate, and those are kind of the no 383 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: no ingredients. 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So, I very much as a skincare educator, I've 423 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: always tried not to just be when someone says, oh, 424 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: I have a problem with this, and I go ooh, 425 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: buy my product or use this product? Right. I hate 426 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: throwing products at people as an answer. So a lot 427 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: of times through my education, I'm always trying to find 428 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: tips and tricks and little lifestyle things that can help 429 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: the greater good for their skin. But in this instance, 430 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: I am going to throw product people's way because the 431 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: reality is is that when you have a mask on, 432 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: there's more moisture, there's more bacteria. You know, you're creating 433 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: an environment in the skin where more bacteria is thriving 434 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: and for some reasons we don't even know. And so 435 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: you have to reduce the microbial account on the surface 436 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: of the skin and within the pores to help that. 437 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: So like there's just no like tip or trick, right, 438 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: you have to adjust your skincare routine. And so, you know, 439 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: we have a product a cleanser called Rapid Response Detox Cleanser, 440 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: which is great to wash at night, really concentrating in 441 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: your massy area. We also, you know, there's a mask 442 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: called Rapid Response Detals Mass that you can do at 443 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: night after cleansing for a minimum of five minutes and 444 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: it basically resets the skin. We also have a Rapid 445 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: Response Detox toner that you can wipe over your face 446 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: a couple of times during the day, you know, under 447 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: your mask, just to you know, kind of reset all 448 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: of that. So yeah, that's really what kind of needs 449 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: to happen is you need to topically kind of you know, 450 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: because it's not a diet thing, right, you know, a 451 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: lot of times, like if you're getting acting, we might 452 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: you know, dive into your diet, but this is something 453 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: that is best addressed topically. You're not going to you know, 454 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: eliminate certain foods and not get massy because it's not 455 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: it's a lot of what's occurring topically breathing and you know, 456 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: suffocation and mask and that sort of thing. So but 457 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: as far as so those are really kind of the 458 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: best kind of things. But I would definitely say, like 459 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: go lighter on moisturizer in that area because when you're breathing, 460 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot of moisture there anywhere anyway from your breath, 461 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: so you're kind of the integrity of the skin is 462 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: kind of staying hydrated, so you don't need a you know, 463 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: something heavy. So lighten up moisturizer. Yeah, wash your skin 464 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: really well at night. Ideally, you know, if your mask 465 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: me is kind of more chin area, you might wash 466 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: your whole face with your regular cleanser and then use 467 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: more of an antibacterial cleanser with a second cleanse just 468 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: along the chin and lower half of the face where 469 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: you're getting it. So that's a nice way to kind 470 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: of treat that area without treating the whole face for 471 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: you know, for acne when there's no acne present on 472 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: your cheeks or forehead totally. 473 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 3: And then you mentioned diet. 474 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: A lot of us are seeing collagen supplements now marketed 475 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: toward hair, skin, and nails. Talk to me about if 476 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 2: that's something that should be in my diet. Is that 477 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 2: like does that make a difference for me? 478 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: So there is no research showing that it's going to 479 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: make a difference. You know, Will it hurts you? No? 480 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: Do I take it? 481 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 2: No? 482 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: You know, Like to me, I I focus on everything 483 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: on what where is my time and energy best spent 484 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: and if I'm going to put take something orally, there 485 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: are other things that I think are better to take 486 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: orally and that are you know, more proven or whatever. 487 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: So the research just isn't there to support it now. 488 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: Will the research come out later that shows it's the 489 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: miracle worker maybe, you know, but but right now there's 490 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: just not enough research showing that it's making a difference. 491 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: A lot of us have heard just the concept that 492 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: like dairy can cause break as. Is there anything like 493 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: kind of across the board that is really triggering for 494 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 2: you know, what's going on with their skin? 495 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? So great, great question. And the answer is just 496 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: like each skin type, you know, each skin is different, 497 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: which is why I have nine skin types. You know, 498 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: everyone the source of everyone's breakout skin problems are very 499 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: unique to them. The million dollar question, and I'll get 500 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: back to the food thing as second, but the million 501 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: dollar question is why do I break out? Right? So 502 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: the thing about mask me is we know the cause. 503 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: It is from mask me, right, It's from wearing masks 504 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: because of all of a sudden you didn't have breakouts, 505 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: and now you're wearing a mask and the areas that 506 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: you're wearing a mask are getting breakouts. It's pretty safe 507 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: to assume it's mask me. But for all other types 508 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: of breakouts, we don't know the source, right, and and 509 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: that's what makes it really challenging. And everyone is unique 510 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: that way. Someone's source of their acne if they're able 511 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: to determine it, you know, like they may find it, 512 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: they may never find it. Sometimes we just think acne 513 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: is just you have bad luck, a case of bad luck, 514 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: like you know, like genetics, whatever it may be. Sometimes 515 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: it's bad luck. We'll never know the source. So in 516 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: the case of diet, there are I can't tell you 517 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: how many times people have said to me, Renee, I 518 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: eat so well and so clean, yet I still get breakouts. Well, 519 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: it's because diet does not have as much of an 520 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: effect as we think. I mean, if you could just 521 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: eat clean and get rid of your acne, I mean, 522 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: it's not that simple. That doesn't happen. I also know 523 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: plenty of people who eat terribly and eat junk food 524 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: and never get breakouts at all, right, and have great skin. 525 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: So I think it sounds great. You know, people are 526 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: far more focused on nutrition these days and eating well 527 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: and aware of what they're putting into their body, which 528 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: is amazing and we should be that way. But the 529 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,239 Speaker 1: correlation between skin and diet, you just there isn't as 530 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: much as people would like to think. The one thing 531 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: that is as close to black and white as I 532 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: can see is dairy. Is consumption of dairy. If you 533 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: get chin and jawline breakout, typically morcistic, the hardsore notts 534 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: under the skin. And you are a consumer of dairy, 535 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: even a small amount, not necessarily. You know, you're eating 536 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: buckets of ice cream every night or drinking gallons of milk, 537 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: you may want to look at your dairy intake because 538 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: I have literally cured for the past thirty years of 539 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, of me being an esthetician. I've literally cured 540 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people's actne just by 541 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: having them completely omit or reduce their intake of dairy. Now. 542 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: But here's the interesting thing. Someone will say, I've always 543 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: eaten dairy and I never had a problem. In the 544 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: past year I started breaking out. Your body also changes. 545 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: You can also be reactive to dairy, and you can 546 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: also grow out of it being reactive. And that's what's 547 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: the crazy thing is is that it's it's just not 548 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: you know, the body is always changing. I know plenty 549 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: of people that couldn't eat one bite of ice cream 550 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: without breaking out in systic acne, and now they can 551 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: enjoy ice cream, you know, ten years later without a problem. 552 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: So that's why it's really hard. There's not it's hard 553 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: to have black and white, these hard set rules, like 554 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: just the body is a mystery and it's always changing 555 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: and we will never know why. 556 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: All right, we're winding down here. Two more questions. 557 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: The first question I recently per advice when I went 558 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 2: to see a dermatologist tried to experiment with retinol it 559 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: didn't go well. 560 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 3: It did not go well for me. 561 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: So some basic guidelines maybe if you could offer for 562 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 2: someone who's interested in using that, because I know that 563 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 2: when it comes to anti aging, this is one of 564 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 2: the you know, the things that we hear is a 565 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 2: good thing to implement into the routine. 566 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: So great question. I get this one a lot. Question. 567 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: Was this a prescription retinoid or was this a retinal 568 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: product that's available without a prescription. 569 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: Available without a prescription, but given to me via my dermatology. 570 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so it was like a stronger non prescription Okay, 571 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: definitely a product like that. You have to work in 572 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: slowly and monitor what the side effects are so that 573 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: you can monitor your routine. That's yeah. So I mean 574 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: that is expected, that is normal. That you know, what 575 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: you experienced is completely normal. I mean in theory, what 576 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: is doing is it's kind of injuring the skin and 577 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: causing you know, side effects and the skin shedding and 578 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: that sort of thing. And that's exactly what happened. So 579 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: that's that's great. It worked, But it's all about managing that. 580 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: But the general thing is is you have to use 581 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: it sparingly. The best way to use it as always 582 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: put a moisturizer on right afterward. Eventually you want to 583 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: wait a little bit before you put your moisturizer on 584 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: because you want it to activate retinal receptors in your skin, 585 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: and it will be diluted if you put a lotion 586 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: on right afterwards. So so you know, you do want 587 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: to work up to being able to wait, you know, 588 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: ten minutes, twenty minutes before you put a moisturizer on. 589 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: But using a gentle cleanser, you know, using it, you know, 590 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: just starting you know, sparingly once a week, eventually work 591 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: out twice a week. You never want to get to 592 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: the point where you're using a retinal or a prescription 593 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: retinoid every night. And the main reason is is because 594 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: just you know, you want to give your skin a 595 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: variety of different ingredients and you don't want to just 596 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 1: be hitting that one home. Your skin needs antioxidants, it 597 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: needs you know, peptides, other barrier repair ingredients, and so 598 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: you kind of want a variety. So at the very most, 599 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: I would say someone should use a retinal five nights 600 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: a week. I personally only use it three nights a week, 601 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: so because I like to change it up, I like 602 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: to throw some acids in there, and but yeah, so, 603 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: and then another thing is is you do when you're 604 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: using a retinol, You do want to use a gentle 605 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: exfoliating acid serum at least like once or twice a 606 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: week on the skin at night, because that will make 607 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: you know. When you have using a retinal, you get 608 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: dry skin. Dry skin acts as a barrier and so 609 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: when you're using good products on your skin, they can't 610 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: penetrate as well through this wall of dry skin. So 611 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: in order to enhance your retinol, if you use like 612 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: the next night or when you're flaky or whatever, use 613 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: an exfoliating acid serum with let's just say lactic acid 614 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: or glycolic acid in it, and while you sleep at night, 615 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: it's working to gently dissolve and digest those dry cells. 616 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: So not only will it make your skin not look 617 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: as dry and flaky, but then when you use the 618 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: retinal the next night, it penetrates deeper because you don't 619 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: have that wall of dead skin cells that it has 620 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: to try to attempt to break through. So using an 621 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: exfoliating acid will help manage the side effects of the dryness, 622 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,239 Speaker 1: and that's an important product to be alternating. 623 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: With Okay, Now, literally we could talk for hours about 624 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 2: all of the questions that have come in, but I'm 625 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: gonna end us here because I know that we have 626 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 2: a lot of active individuals listening to the show. What 627 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: are we to do about some of those small bumps 628 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: that might come at the hairline from sweat and wearing 629 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 2: hats and perhaps even I mean, I guess on other 630 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 2: areas of the face as well, what do you do 631 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: about that? 632 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: So I'm so glad that you asked this. Blemishes have 633 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: infection and the ones, the ones that don't have infection 634 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: are the ones that just sit there and they're not red, 635 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: they're not sore, and they hang out all the time. 636 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: They could be there for months, right, they don't go 637 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: away where a regular blemish goes away, you know, five, 638 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: seven days, two weeks, whatever, it's gone. So those are 639 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: called clog poors, close comodmes, and it's basically where you 640 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: have just some hardened oil that's blocking in the poor 641 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: and creating a raised bump. And the challenge, as I 642 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: know you know this, Emily, is the problem with raised 643 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: bumps is you can't cover them up, right if you 644 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: put foundation on, like they're still a bumpy right, so 645 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: it's like they're bumpy, they show all the time. So 646 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: generally the key is probably the best thing to do 647 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 1: at home is to start by using an exfoliating acid serum, 648 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: something that has lactic and glycolic because that will kind 649 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: of that will kind of take away that hardened wall 650 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 1: of skin that's keeping that bump impacted. And then something 651 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: with salacilic acid that goes deeper into the poor and 652 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: can kind of clear out the poor lining. So I 653 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: have a product called like Poor and Wrinkle Perfecting Serum. 654 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: I have one called BHA Clear Fraying Serum. If you're 655 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: using an exfoliating acid serum that's meant to kind of 656 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: clear pores over time, that can definitely help. Now you 657 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: also have to, you know, depending on how you do 658 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: or how some a product like that works, you may 659 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: have to get extractions and actually clean them out first 660 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: and get rid of that debris that's blocked in the poor, 661 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: and then an ffoliating acids here and will help keep 662 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: them clean and prevent them from coming back. So that 663 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: might mean going to see a professional and having them 664 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: just do a really deep poor cleansing and get all 665 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: that blockage out you need to find an esthetician that's 666 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 1: really good at extractions, because that for some people that 667 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: they're scared or that's not their area of expertise, or 668 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: you have to be very careful. But I do have 669 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: a blog post about how to do manual extractions at home. 670 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: It involves using what's called a landset, which you can 671 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 1: get from a pharmacy, where you very gently pierce the 672 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: skin to create a little bit of an opening so 673 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: things can pop out really easily. So, especially with a pandemic, 674 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: you may have to do it at home, and I 675 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: give you good tips on how to do it. 676 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 2: Wow, you are a wealth of knowledge. I feel like 677 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 2: there was so much to digest here, but all such 678 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 2: helpful information. Renee again, reiterate to us the name of 679 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 2: your website, Where do we find you and how do 680 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 2: we follow you on Instagram? 681 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: Yes, so my website is Renee reload dot com or 682 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: if you just type into Google Renee Skincare you'll find it. 683 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: Because my last name has a lot of oowels in 684 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: it and hard to spell, but Renee relat dot com. 685 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, take the skin type quiz. Sign up for 686 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: our email so you get all of our latest blog posts. Yeah, 687 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: get educated about your skin. We ship all over the 688 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 1: world my personal instagram. 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