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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast, The Fort.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Tuesday edition.

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Speaker 3: Primary Day in New Hampshire.

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Speaker 2: Go vote New Hampshire, writes Donald Trump versus Nicky Haley

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Speaker 2: head to head the final Suffolk Paul dropped a few

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Speaker 2: hours ago. It had Trump up sixty to thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: Also a story worth paying attention to. They are having

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Speaker 2: to write in Joe Biden's name in the Democrat primary

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Speaker 2: because Biden is not on the the on the ballot

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Speaker 2: because he refused to allow New Hampshire to vote before

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Speaker 2: South Carolina, so his name is not on there. They

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Speaker 2: are asking people to write it in. Could be interesting

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Speaker 2: to compare how Nicky Hayley does compared to Dean Phillips.

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Speaker 2: Is there going to be a substantial number of Democrats

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Speaker 2: that will come out and say, we're not supporting Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: We are supporting this Minnesota congressman that many of you

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Speaker 2: don't know anything about, and frankly that many Democrats don't

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Speaker 2: know anything about. Because for the most part, there has

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Speaker 2: been a decision not to cover this as a contested

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Speaker 2: primary by MSNBC and CNN and their ILK but all

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Speaker 2: of you go vote New Hampshire writes, there doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: to be any real concern that Nicky Haley is going

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Speaker 2: to win. So we will have this discussion tomorrow in earnest,

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Speaker 2: I believe, but I think we can all basically start

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Speaker 2: it today in many respects, And that is this question,

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Speaker 2: what does Nicky Haley need to do tonight, Buck in

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Speaker 2: your mind for her to be justified in continuing the

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Speaker 2: primary race against Donald Trump into her home state of

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Speaker 2: South Carolina. Now, the Haley camp today is putting out

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Speaker 2: all sorts of statements saying, and it's not really a

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Speaker 2: surprise because you try to look confident in advance of

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Speaker 2: an election, saying that they plan on challenging Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: all the way through Super Tuesday, which would not occur

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Speaker 2: until March fifth. That would mean that we've got whatever

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Speaker 2: the math is, there about six weeks of ongoing primary

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Speaker 2: process that the Haley campaign believes should go on before

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Speaker 2: she acknowledges that Trump is going to be the nominee

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Speaker 2: again through Super Tuesday. That would include her home state

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Speaker 2: of South Carolina in a month.

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Speaker 3: I think that's very hard to argue.

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Speaker 2: If she loses by fifteen or twenty points in New Hampshire,

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Speaker 2: because New Hampshire, Buck is far more favorable to reign

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Speaker 2: to Nikki Haley than South Carolina is going to be,

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Speaker 2: or a place like my home state of Tennessee is

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Speaker 2: going to be, or Texas is going to be. What

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Speaker 2: does Nicky Haley need to do in your mind, Buck

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Speaker 2: for this not to be over tonight?

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Speaker 3: So you know how there are maxims that people say,

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Speaker 3: and then there are some that are untrue, right that

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Speaker 3: people say it, but it's really not the case. One

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Speaker 3: of the ones that always comes to mind for me

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Speaker 3: is there's no such thing as bad publicity that is

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Speaker 3: a lie. There's definitely such a thing as bad publicity.

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Speaker 3: The general sentiment I can understand, and it's often applicable,

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Speaker 3: but there are some very very big exceptions to that.

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Speaker 3: I bring it up play because for Nicki Haley, the

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Speaker 3: question is what is the value to her? She's not

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Speaker 3: gonna win the presidency, Okay, I mean unless you know,

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Speaker 3: we could wake up tomorrow and we could be in

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Speaker 3: the beginning of an ice age, Like I can't tell

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Speaker 3: you what's going to happen in the future definitively, but

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Speaker 3: you and I both know she's not gonna win.

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Speaker 2: The president short of health for Trump issue, or the

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court going even more rogue than they did, which

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about, I'm sure with their ruling against Texas

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Speaker 2: later in the show.

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Speaker 3: But you know, chaos so fired up about that last

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Speaker 3: night when that came down. We're going to dive into

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Speaker 3: that border issue. Lawlessness now is what the law demands.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the real shorthand of what's going on on

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Speaker 3: her border. But okay, but back to Nickiyhila. I bring

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Speaker 3: it up play because it's all about what is best

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Speaker 3: for her. She's a very, very ambitious person. All these

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Speaker 3: politicians are. I'm not singling her out, but she's somebody

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Speaker 3: who has longer time in the game than say Trump,

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Speaker 3: for Biden or Bernie Sanders. So she's got to think

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Speaker 3: about the overall horizon. And I think that for her,

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Speaker 3: So that's what I mean by there's no such there's

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Speaker 3: no such thing as bad publicity. Losing your home state

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Speaker 3: when you're the popular governor of South Carolina in a primary,

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Speaker 3: that would be bad publicity. I think New Hampshire is

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Speaker 3: playing with house money. I think New Hampshire for her

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Speaker 3: is if she's close, it looks good. But if she

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Speaker 3: gets blown out, nobody remembers New Hampshire anyway. So for me,

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Speaker 3: the much bigger question remains, does she really want to

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Speaker 3: South Carolina? Because in New Hampshire, I think you and

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Speaker 3: I would both wager at this point that she's gonna

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Speaker 3: lose by more than double digits, will probably lose by

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Speaker 3: fifteen points or something. I mean, she's gonna get smoked,

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Speaker 3: as you say, I like it, Yeah, like that term. Yes,

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Speaker 3: she will get smoked. And then you're left with what's

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Speaker 3: the purpose of Nicki Haley staying in for Nicki Haley?

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Speaker 3: Because that's really what matters. Will the donors be able

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Speaker 3: to bully her or delude her into thinking that there's

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Speaker 3: more of a long term possibility for her. Maybe, but

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Speaker 3: I mean this, she's in New Hampshire, it's today, the

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Speaker 3: voting's going on, She's gonna lose. Do you think she

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Speaker 3: stays through to South Carolina? For me, that's the much

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Speaker 3: bigger question. Does she stay through to her home state?

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Speaker 3: Because I thought that it would be a bad look.

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Speaker 3: Let me contextualize this for everybody.

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Speaker 2: You guys out there listening, know that I like to

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Speaker 2: go look at the offshore gambling markets just to get

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Speaker 2: a sense on Hey, like, what is the expectation out there?

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Speaker 2: If Nicky Haley were to win in New Hampshire, it

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Speaker 2: would be the equivalent, according to these markets, basically of

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Speaker 2: Trump pulling off the twenty sixteen upset over Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 3: Upsets happened.

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Speaker 2: They are very rare, and for the most part, all

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Speaker 2: of the polling has been correct so far on the

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Speaker 2: on the primary season, Iowa, everything that we saw dead

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Speaker 2: on so far, Trump pulling away up fifteen or twenty points.

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Speaker 2: So let's contextualize that. That means that's the way that

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Speaker 2: I think about it. If I were in Nicky Haley's

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Speaker 2: by single digits in order to argue that she could

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Speaker 2: go on to South Carolina.

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Speaker 3: So, in other words, I think it needs to be like,

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Speaker 3: you know, fifteen points.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fifty four for Trump, forty six for Nicky Haley,

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Speaker 2: something like that. Obviously, some people will still vote, I

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Speaker 2: don't the ballot maybe still have Chris Christy and Ron

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Speaker 2: De Santis will get some small percentage some people will

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Speaker 2: she needs to lose by less than by under ten,

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Speaker 2: you know, ten to fifteen I think is pushing it.

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Speaker 2: Maybe anything over fifteen she has no to me, no

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Speaker 2: justification whatsoever to continue, and really the question will then

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Speaker 2: become buck the same thing that we asked about Ron DeSantis.

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Speaker 3: Nikki Haley went all.

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Speaker 2: In on New Hampshire, like Ron De Santis went all

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Speaker 2: in on Iowa. If you go all in on a

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Speaker 2: ever getting better than that for you.

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Speaker 3: I also think that that this maybe is a point

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Speaker 3: where we can step back and look at this all

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Speaker 3: in on a state strategy. I think that, and maybe

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Speaker 3: somebody could show me the data that would prove this

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Speaker 3: to be wrong. You know what we see in a

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Speaker 3: feel like this this tunnel vision, look, it clearly did

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Speaker 3: not serve and this is not a you know, we're

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Speaker 3: not in the knocking Ron DeSantis game here, Great governor

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Speaker 3: Trump says he's welcome on the Trump train, and we've

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Speaker 3: that Ron is a great conservative leader and has a

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Speaker 3: very bright future. But the all in on Iowa strategy,

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Speaker 3: which was really a repeat of Ted Cruz's twenty sixteen

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Speaker 3: it really couldn't have failed more than it did. And

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Speaker 3: Nikki Haley going all in on New Hampshire. But what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying is this has happened time and time again

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Speaker 3: now where it's oh, we're going to show everybody, No,

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Speaker 3: I think you have to run an election campaign where

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Speaker 3: you're telling the whole country or you know, the members

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Speaker 3: the gal, not we're gonna win in this one place,

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Speaker 3: and then everyone's going to change their minds. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of times that's a function of

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Speaker 2: not having enough money to compete anywhere else. So you

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Speaker 2: just say, hey, we've got fifteen million dollars, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: put all our chips in the table on Iowa and hope.

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Speaker 3: But this has failed over and I mean this that

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Speaker 2: I think what it shows is a lot of people

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Speaker 2: say is Nicky Hayley's done if she can't get within

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Speaker 2: fifteen or twenty. And I'll use a sports analogy for you.

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Speaker 2: If anybody out there has ever sprinted, you can do

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Speaker 2: your while it's while. Oh you know, I wrote a

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Speaker 2: book about training for the NFL Draft like fifteen years ago,

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Speaker 2: Buck and the forty is a huge deal, the forty

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Speaker 2: yard draft. What what you run the forty eight time?

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Speaker 2: You're forty?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah? What was your best forty time? Five to five?

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Speaker 3: runs a five to five.

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Speaker 2: People will see a guy run like a five four

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Speaker 2: That guy would dust you in a race. But what

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Speaker 2: you learn is forty yards is not that far now,

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Speaker 2: it's farther than most people sprint, right, So that's a

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Speaker 2: challenge too, for it. Most people have not sprinted forty

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Speaker 3: My hamstrings hurt just thinking about it. Yes, so, but

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Speaker 3: the thing.

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Speaker 2: You learn is you could only run a forty hard

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Speaker 2: about two times. Whatever your and that's why they run

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Speaker 2: about that a little bit in the context of these primaries.

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Speaker 2: Nikki Hayley has run her forty in New Hampshire, she

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Speaker 2: has put her best foot forward, she's placed whatever her

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Speaker 2: best time is, and I think she's gonna lose by

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Speaker 2: fifteen or twenty. Every other state that she's going into

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Speaker 2: the forty that she's already run, which means I expect

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Speaker 2: tonight for this to be over and for Nicki Haley

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Speaker 2: to have to make a rational decision, and we'll see

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Speaker 2: whether she will or not.

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Speaker 3: I think she's I think she's gonna drop before South

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Speaker 3: Carolina because I think that losing in South Carolina. Look,

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Speaker 3: Ron de Santis didn't want to stay in to see

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Speaker 3: So do they actually dislike Nikki? I think the answer

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Speaker 3: Nicky Haley had a moment last night where a Trump

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Speaker 4: But you know what, we've got a lot on the

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Speaker 3: Get out of here. You heard it so economiss, he said,

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Speaker 2: I mean I thought that was pretty witty by Nicki

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Speaker 3: But Clay, there's a broader You're seeing some ferocity against

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's from Trump at all.

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Speaker 2: Like I think the there's almost a aggressive competition on

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck sextem show Buck. I

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Speaker 2: The data and I think this is even favorable to

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Speaker 3: The Biden base would have no change in enthusiasm in

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Speaker 2: How funny of a story is that for people out there?

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Speaker 2: everything that's said about them by staff is negative or

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Speaker 2: your constant I think this is true with Kamalin.

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Speaker 3: Now, if you're constantly having to.

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Speaker 2: Hire new staff, then you're probably not that skilled and

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Speaker 2: also probably not that good of a person to work with.

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Speaker 3: Look, the truth is, I mean the administration. I think

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Speaker 3: there was a learning curve for Trump starting in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 3: and I think he's a difficult guy to work for obviously.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's very volatile and it's not but people,

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Speaker 3: a lot of people that have spent considerable time with

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Speaker 3: him over the years love the guy. I mean you

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Speaker 3: look at someone like Rudy Giuliani, for example, and you

448
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Speaker 3: know he's going through some challenges right now, but he

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Speaker 3: loves Donald Trump. Steve Bennon loves Donald Trump like there

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Speaker 3: are people that And even though Bannon got kicked out

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Speaker 3: of the Nussians that kicked out left the White House

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Speaker 3: of his own accord at one point early the administration,

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Speaker 3: but then came back and was sort of a senior advisor.

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Speaker 3: So there's an affinity that people have for Trump, even

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Speaker 3: who have been on the wrong side of him. That's

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Speaker 3: what I'm trying to get you. And I've never heard

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Speaker 3: of somebody who Look what happened with Biden is the

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Speaker 3: effectively the Obama apparatus was like, all right, so I

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Speaker 3: guess this guy's in charge now, Not really though they

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Speaker 3: came in, they swooped in, and that's who was That's

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Speaker 3: who has been really calling all the shots. I don't

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Speaker 3: think that there's a lot of enthusiasm for Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: I think we I'm starting to really feel like we

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Speaker 3: know what the Democrat plan is here. There's not some

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Speaker 3: huge surprise, and they're just going to try to leverage

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Speaker 3: what they've got to get the outcome that they want.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that there's anything else for them than

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Speaker 3: what we see ahead of us.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to look ahead and That's why I think

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Speaker 2: that they're going to have a break the glass moment.

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Speaker 2: So let me just give you a date, just a

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Speaker 2: random date. When we get to this is something for

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Speaker 2: everybody out there. We can flag this date. What do

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Speaker 2: we January twenty third today? If the polls still looks

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Speaker 2: similar to what they look like now as we come

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Speaker 2: up on Memorial Day? Right, so let's say May twenty fourth.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what Memorial Day is this year, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: mid to late May.

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Speaker 3: Well. The reason when when will you say, Buck? You

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Speaker 3: are a wise shage genius of politics? It is in

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Speaker 3: fact Joe Biden? Like what is the drop dead date

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Speaker 3: on this July? When?

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Speaker 2: I mean when they go to the when they go

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Speaker 2: to the convention. If Biden is nominated and gives his

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Speaker 2: convention acceptance speech, he's going to be the nominee. So

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Speaker 2: the reason why I'm I'm if you lose this, will

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Speaker 2: you will you say I've learned the valuable lesson, which

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Speaker 2: is always bet on?

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Speaker 3: Buck? Can we get so we got to get you

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Speaker 3: to pray? This is like instead of shaving your head

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Speaker 3: or something. Well, we moved on from I have to

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Speaker 3: pay off a stake. So now I have to acknowledge

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Speaker 3: that that I always have to agree with every opinion

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Speaker 3: you give for the remainder of a man. I always

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Speaker 3: feeling that seems like that seems like a big that

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Speaker 3: seems like a big leap.

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Speaker 2: But I do think if we reach Memorial Day ish,

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Speaker 2: right like mid May into Memorial Day, the reason why

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Speaker 2: I flagg that is a lot of people are gonna

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Speaker 2: tune out. I know that I will to a certain extent,

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Speaker 2: but not really me because of what we do. But

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Speaker 2: when your kids get out of school and it's June

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Speaker 2: and July, it's vacation season, August, everybody's playing Little League,

504
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Speaker 2: Grandma and grandpa taking vacations with the family, everybody, there's

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Speaker 2: really a pause.

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Speaker 3: I think that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually surprised still that they do the conventions in

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Speaker 2: the summer. I almost think it would make more sense

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Speaker 2: to do them like in September. But maybe they're way

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Speaker 2: smarter than me. But if the numbers haven't changed by May,

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Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be a break the glass moment

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Speaker 2: for Democrats on the Joe Biden situation, because they'll have

513
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Speaker 2: to decide then, Okay, look, we're going to have a

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Speaker 2: contested convention. Let's set the process in place. Joe Biden's

515
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Speaker 2: gonna come out and say that he doesn't have the

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Speaker 2: health to be able to continue. If they don't do

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Speaker 2: it by then, then that that's the drop dead. I

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Speaker 2: thought that he would drop out last year. I think honestly,

519
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Speaker 2: the success in the midterms changed the narrative. I think

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Speaker 2: if we had seen that red tsunami, I think there

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Speaker 2: would have been more of a panic, and then I

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Speaker 2: also think bucked. By the time we get to May,

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Speaker 2: we'll have a better sense of how the lawfair is

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Speaker 2: playing out for Trump, and that will also potentially impact

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Speaker 2: what the polls look like. But I just don't see

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Speaker 2: some massive thing that's going to happen. And obviously lots

527
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Speaker 2: can change. We wouldn't have if we were doing this

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Speaker 2: show and COVID came out of nowhere in twenty twenty, right.

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Speaker 3: We always leave open those possibilities. I think what the

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Speaker 3: real X factor situation here, the turning point could be

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Speaker 3: if they can get a conviction in that DC trial

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Speaker 3: based on the polling that we've seen. If they can,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know that we can. Look, we're talking

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Speaker 3: the next hour in a few minutes here about the

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court on the razor wire, which I think y

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Speaker 3: four they got it wrong. Okay, by four they got

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Speaker 3: it wrong. But I will sit here and just extra,

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Speaker 3: you know, think ahead, extrapolate a little bit into that's

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Speaker 3: got to be what this all is. Right, It has

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Speaker 3: to be that they think they can get that conviction

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Speaker 3: in DC and that that turns everything around, because the

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Speaker 3: same polling that has been showing us so far things

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Speaker 3: correctly shows us that that is a Remember, it doesn't

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Speaker 3: have to change the minds of fifty percent of the

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Speaker 3: American people and has to change the minds of five

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Speaker 3: or six percent of the American people and two percent

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Speaker 3: of the electorate. Maybe you know what I mean. It's

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Speaker 3: going to be a tiny, a tiny wedge.

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Speaker 2: And by May we'll know what the timeframe of that

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Speaker 2: DC case would be, because I think the Supreme Court's

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Speaker 2: going to hold and they're not going to be able

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Speaker 2: to start that trial until after July fourth. And if

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Speaker 2: that happens, then it's really hard to argue it's not

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Speaker 2: directly political. So again, May is where I would say,

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Speaker 2: mid May if we're still sitting around this place, because remember,

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Speaker 2: Biden doesn't just have to win based on the way

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Speaker 2: the electoral math is set up.

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Speaker 3: He needs to win. It can't be a tie.

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Speaker 2: He needs to win by like three points because of

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Speaker 2: the way the math sets up.

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Speaker 3: So you have you have bought yourself another six months here,

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Speaker 3: mister Clay Travis of maybe it's not Biden. But when

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Speaker 3: we get into July three months did I say in

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Speaker 3: to May Oh, well, no, I thought you said. But

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Speaker 3: but July they have in July. Well, if they nominate

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Speaker 3: him at the convention, he's running, so there will be

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Speaker 3: no argument at all from me by the time we

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Speaker 3: get to jail. I'm gonna hold you to this August first.

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Speaker 3: If you tell me that Joe Biden's not the nominee

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Speaker 3: after he's phenomena at the convention, I'm I'm gonna, I

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Speaker 3: don't know, I'm gonna like, I will give the air

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk about the border and the Supreme

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Speaker 3: Court razor wire decision. It was just a decision, came

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Speaker 3: down five to four, and it's a reminder to everybody

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Speaker 3: that the real plan for the Democrats, the real plan

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Speaker 3: going forward is to make sure the border remains unsecure,

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Speaker 3: to make sure that illegals continue to come in, to

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Speaker 3: make sure the fentanel continues to pile into this country.

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Speaker 3: Tens of thousands of people dying from overdoses, many of

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Speaker 3: them dying from accidental poisoning from the fentanyl that is

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Speaker 3: getting mixed into other drugs. So Democrats are shameful on

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Speaker 3: this issue, and we need to explain and get into

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Speaker 3: why it is that they take the positions they do.

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Speaker 3: In our mail bag, we actually have our first we

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Speaker 3: have our first mailbag question about this, Jeffrey Wright. So

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Speaker 3: the Supreme Court rule the federal government can remove the

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Speaker 3: razor wire from the Texas Mexico border. How far inland

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Speaker 3: from the border does the federal government have control. My

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Speaker 3: question is if Texas moved the razor wire back a

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Speaker 3: mile from the border into the interior of Texas, could

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court still rule the federal government has the right

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Speaker 3: to remove it. Well, the problem with moving it into

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Speaker 3: the interior is that then people are in the interior

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Speaker 3: and Texas wouldn't have doesn't have.

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Speaker 2: Enforced you you're trying to keep people from getting to

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Speaker 2: Texas to get on the US. If you put razor wire,

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Speaker 2: you know, just south of Austin, they would just go

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Speaker 2: around it, you know what I mean, They would find

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Speaker 2: other places to go. So this is We're going to

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Speaker 2: get into this in a big way because I think

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Speaker 2: this is a just monumental ruling, even though there still

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Speaker 2: is a dispute pending at the Fifth Circuit and there's

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Speaker 2: still a lot of different legal wranglings.

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Speaker 3: But to me, and I'll talk about this a little bit.

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Speaker 2: More in the third hour, I think that the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court justices are in a really tough spot here, and

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Speaker 2: I disagree with the impact of the ruling because I

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Speaker 2: think we need to have a secure southern border. But

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Speaker 2: at its essence, what the Supreme Court is saying is

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Speaker 2: that the federal government controls immigration policy, and that the

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Speaker 2: president actually has basically supreme power as the chief enforcer

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Speaker 2: of American immigration policy. So while many people are saying, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm so mad at Amy Cony Barrett and to a

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Speaker 2: lesser extent John Roberts, who regularly flip flops back and forth,

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Speaker 2: I read this opinion in some way as this just

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Speaker 2: makes who the president is even more important, because what

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Speaker 2: they're really saying is we're going to give a great

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Speaker 2: deal of discretion to the powers of the presidency as

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Speaker 2: it pertains to what American immigration policy is. Therefore, if

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Speaker 2: Trump were in charge, because he's going to get sued

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Speaker 2: immediately for every decision that he makes. Right, And that's

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Speaker 2: the big challenge in general about border security is it's

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Speaker 2: going to take years for a lot of these cases

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Speaker 2: to get resolved, and Trump's only going to have four.

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Speaker 2: But what it tells you is the presidency matters even

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Speaker 2: more than you might have thought when it comes to

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Speaker 2: the overall security of our border. Aka, elections have consequences,

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Speaker 2: and who wins matters a great deal. Yeah, well, this

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Speaker 2: is one of the challenges that even if you have

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Speaker 2: a Trump presidency has not gone away at all, and

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Speaker 2: that is the universal universal injunctions from a single federal judge,

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Speaker 2: nevermind Supreme Court justices. Well, this was a form of

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Speaker 2: law there used early on in the Trump administration, starting

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Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen. Remember, we used to talk about the

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Speaker 2: Ninth Circuit, which is they'd get some Ninth Circuit a

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Speaker 2: judge to say you can't do that. And you know,

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Speaker 2: the travel ban was a good example of this, when

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Speaker 2: all the way up the Supreme Court and the travel

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Speaker 2: ban ended up being held constitutional, but you had all

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Speaker 2: these federal judges saying, oh, you can't do that. So

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Speaker 2: there are challenges built into the system that will be

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Speaker 2: there for Trump for sure, be there no matter who

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Speaker 2: ends up winning.

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Speaker 3: You gots, Yeah, I just screwed up.

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Speaker 2: The Democrat convention is after the Republican convention this year,

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Speaker 2: so I flip flopped. So I've got even more time

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Speaker 2: to hold out on my on my when they were

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Speaker 2: replaced by.

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Speaker 3: He's already, he's already, he's given himself more, you know, Chicago, Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Remember we could have a nineteen sixty eight repeat, but

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Speaker 2: it's not till August nineteenth. Till the twenty second of August,

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Speaker 2: Democrats are batting a month after the after their Republicans

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Speaker 2: and I should have remembered that Mark in one of

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Speaker 2: our VIP emails said they get to bat in the

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Speaker 2: bottom of the ninth a full month later.

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Speaker 3: They have a whole month to figure out getting rid

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Speaker 3: of Biden.

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Speaker 2: So Buck, Yeah, I got all the way almost to

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Speaker 2: Labor Day to keep my bet going.

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Speaker 3: I'm just telling you, buddy, on this Biden running issue,

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Speaker 3: you keep dropping back and punting, You're gonna get tackled

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Speaker 3: in the end zone, my friend. Okay, you know you're

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Speaker 3: running out of space. That's not a bad analogy, honestly,

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Speaker 3: but you nail the sports analogy there. But I will

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Speaker 3: say late August, Man, they could make that switch.

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Speaker 2: Michelle Obama, in her hometown of Chicago, comes in riding

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Speaker 2: on the shoulders on the throne. They put her right there.

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Speaker 2: They say, you only have to do this for two months.

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Speaker 2: Barack Obama's back in power. I'm telling you it is

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Speaker 2: going to be glorious to see the chaos.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna see it. We're gonna see We're talking about

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Speaker 3: the border, the razor wire, the illegals all coming up