Speaker 1: From the King of Sports Books comes the King Sports
Speaker 1: Podcast Unleashed, presented by bet MGM. Here's your host, Janice
Speaker 1: Papas and Olivia Harlan Decker. Welcome to everybody business Unleashed
Speaker 1: by bet MGM, the King of Sports Books. And Wow,
Speaker 1: what a weekend of betting in the NFL. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: We had Thursday night, Saturday night, all day, Sunday, Monday night,
Speaker 1: even Tuesday night football. I mean that was pretty crazy. Honest.
Speaker 1: I think they heard your podcast. Yes, last week, I
Speaker 1: told you we need to get more football, more Christmas.
Speaker 1: I love it. Thank you Covid. Yeah, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: I think you met more Covid outbreaks on all these
Speaker 1: NFL teams. So we got the lays and games. It
Speaker 1: gave us more days of nfowl. So is that what
Speaker 1: he planned? That's what I planned. So silver lining. I
Speaker 1: can't wait. I can't wait to get some truly's going
Speaker 1: to night and watch some more gridiron. Pig skin. Baby,
Speaker 1: you are such a contradiction and kind of a basic bitch.
Speaker 1: Hats off to my Green Bay Packers. I'm becoming the
Speaker 1: first team to clinch a playoff spot, winning the NFC
Speaker 1: North I think for the third straight year, Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: promised us a last dance, and so far he has
Speaker 1: not disappointed. Now some people are saying he's back with
Speaker 1: the Packers. It's all up in the air. No one
Speaker 1: knows for sure, But I don't know. Your honest wouldn't
Speaker 1: you stay if things were going this well? Oh? Man,
Speaker 1: I don't think anything could stop the Packers right now.
Speaker 1: COVID toes double coverage on Davante. I think the only
Speaker 1: thing that can stop the Packers is their own special
Speaker 1: teams unit. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that was really atrocious,
Speaker 1: especially in the Chicago game two weeks ago. They've they've
Speaker 1: got to get that ready for the playoffs. But one
Speaker 1: of the highlights for me for the weekend, and I
Speaker 1: know this sounds crazy as a Packer fan and this
Speaker 1: is in my division, but the Detroit Lions, they got
Speaker 1: their second win of this season. We were patting him
Speaker 1: on the back last week knocking off the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Take it away, coach Campbell, welcome to Detroit. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what we did, everything we said we needed to
Speaker 1: do to that team every and I'll tell you what defense.
Speaker 1: You took it personal it's out. Then you guys were
Speaker 1: making them out. But we turn them all over offensively, right,
Speaker 1: and then we defensively a mighty too far. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. Offensively, man, we came out from early. Man,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be We took some shots. I mean, is
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell making a late run at Coach of the
Speaker 1: Year or what? The phrase any given Sunday has never
Speaker 1: been more true than this season. Apparently we can see
Speaker 1: any team be any other team. Lions over the Cardinals?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding? I mean picture that an actual animal
Speaker 1: form though that that matchup would end up the same
Speaker 1: way this game did. Yeah, I think they're starting to
Speaker 1: play like Lions. Look Sometimes some teams don't get it
Speaker 1: together until this point in the season. It looks like
Speaker 1: the lines are getting it together. It look a little
Speaker 1: too little, too late. And this is the point where
Speaker 1: you're going like, hey, do we keep winning or do
Speaker 1: we get a draft pick? You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say anyone to lose on purpose,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying, let's see what that with the second
Speaker 1: and third string looks like Detroit, You're going nowhere. Two
Speaker 1: victories is enough. It's like, take it easy. Now imagine
Speaker 1: playing for that team, and you're like, all right, we
Speaker 1: got Arizona this weekend. Let's go like, I can't imagine
Speaker 1: getting up for that game when you're really just starting
Speaker 1: to make your vacation plans. Right, you're right, Okay, So
Speaker 1: Week eighteen, our seventeenth game. Okay, honey, what do you
Speaker 1: think Bora bora Hawaii? What you're thinking? Like, that's what's
Speaker 1: going through some of their heads, you know it, But no,
Speaker 1: they're doing it and they want their second game of
Speaker 1: the season. But there's a full slate of NFL this weekend.
Speaker 1: For Christmas weekend, we're going to talk with bet MGM's
Speaker 1: betting expert, Peter Andrew. He's our very own elf on
Speaker 1: a shelf and he's also joining us next week. If
Speaker 1: you like Peter Andrew, you're going to get a much
Speaker 1: bigger dose of him next week for our year end show.
Speaker 1: That's going to be a lot of fun. So that
Speaker 1: Christmas Day double header that's coming up at the end
Speaker 1: of the show, we're going to talk about it. Speaking
Speaker 1: of guys who had big wins over the weekend, we'll
Speaker 1: talk to former Brooklyn netstar Darren Williams. He was in
Speaker 1: the news this week for beating former NFL star Frank
Speaker 1: Gore in his boxing debut. It was his first fight.
Speaker 1: I don't know will he fight again? He made that
Speaker 1: one look so beautiful. He was pretty winded and beat
Speaker 1: up after the fight, and he immediately in his post
Speaker 1: match interview, I don't know what do you call that?
Speaker 1: He said, no way, I'm done. I'm done. But we
Speaker 1: gotta ask ourselves, right Annie. Yeah, I mean there's a
Speaker 1: couple of perspective opponents out there, Jack Ball, Logan, Paul.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of former athletes and other
Speaker 1: sports who he could fight now now that boxing has
Speaker 1: opened itself up to all athletes, all celebrities. I really
Speaker 1: can't wait to see, like two politicians fight basketball versus
Speaker 1: a football. Let's do a little hockey. Take the gloves
Speaker 1: off me and you, let's go at it. Let's fight
Speaker 1: another podcast two on two. I mean, boxing is really
Speaker 1: the place now anyone can just go and get their
Speaker 1: aggression out and get a paycheck. I love it. Would
Speaker 1: you swing at a pregnant woman? Never? Never? Would I
Speaker 1: swing at a pregnant woman? No, no, but I would
Speaker 1: get myself another pregnant woman to fight you. I'd find
Speaker 1: one and then me and Sam would go at it.
Speaker 1: And I already told you what happens to Sam. It's
Speaker 1: biting on the genitalia. Yes he did tell me. I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's a weird fetish out there for two pregnant
Speaker 1: women boxing. But enough of that, Hi, Mrs Harlan, Hi,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm a decker. That's that's a Mrs Harlan
Speaker 1: listening your daughter. That was not me who said that.
Speaker 1: You really are someone who tripped up even worse than
Speaker 1: I just did and regretting their decisions as much as
Speaker 1: I am right now. Is our man, manny. He's our winner,
Speaker 1: which is kind of a loser for bad beat of
Speaker 1: the week of the week. Let's take a look at
Speaker 1: what he did. It was a monster one game parlay
Speaker 1: for Chiefs at Chargers. Everything hit Kelsey, anytime touchdown, chief score,
Speaker 1: the first points, first quarter, under, etcetera. All these miniscule
Speaker 1: things in the game hit except one. And the only
Speaker 1: thing that prevented that big payout was the Chiefs to
Speaker 1: have a halftime lead, which seems like an easy thing
Speaker 1: to ask for, but it didn't happen. So sorry, my man, Manny,
Speaker 1: but bet MGM is blessing with one dollar site credit,
Speaker 1: so you can try your luck again. I'm telling you guys,
Speaker 1: that's how you win big money. Put together these big
Speaker 1: balls parlay and you can just see put five dollars
Speaker 1: in and you win big. So yeah, the next time
Speaker 1: we go to Vegas, that's what you and I are doing.
Speaker 1: We're just building these bizarre parleys. Let's do it. Let's
Speaker 1: do it. We'll do it together. Now, this part of
Speaker 1: the show we usually unleash, right, but it's Christmas, you know,
Speaker 1: we've got to change things up in the spirit of Christmas.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna do a little naughty and nice list
Speaker 1: from the world of sports. So we need some jingle bells, Alex,
Speaker 1: if you can bring in some Christmas noise right here,
Speaker 1: something that gets this very festive. Um. I would like
Speaker 1: to start first on the naughty list, because naught he's
Speaker 1: a little more fun than nice, right absolutely, And uh,
Speaker 1: I have a feeling I know who you're gonna bring
Speaker 1: up first. He's been a naughty naughty boy, Yes he has.
Speaker 1: I think he's been the naughtiest boy of all. It's
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer if he if he's the top of the
Speaker 1: naughty list. I think he'd be proud of that. He
Speaker 1: was expecting roughly fifty million dollars over five years, but
Speaker 1: now it looks like the only thing he might be
Speaker 1: getting his big old bag of coal. Just think about this.
Speaker 1: He had more embarrassing incidents than wins in his first
Speaker 1: season and probably his last season as a head coach
Speaker 1: in the NFL, including not flying back with his team
Speaker 1: after a loss, getting caught on video doing a little
Speaker 1: button grind with a woman who was not his wife
Speaker 1: or anywhere near his age, calling out his coaches, and
Speaker 1: even kicking his kicker. You know, I'm just good he
Speaker 1: didn't punt his punter or nose tackle his nose tackle.
Speaker 1: You get where I'm going with this. Honest, he really
Speaker 1: made a poor decision, and I think he's out of
Speaker 1: the NFL for good. He's a good looking man, and
Speaker 1: he was doing well at the TV gig on Fox.
Speaker 1: He should just go back to that. What was he
Speaker 1: doing messing around with the NFL. I mean that he
Speaker 1: kicked his kicker. I may look, I have a lot
Speaker 1: of animosity towards kickers, but you shouldn't kick him. You
Speaker 1: shouldn't kick him. The only people who should be kicking
Speaker 1: is the kickers kicking. Football's coaches should not be trying
Speaker 1: to put the actual kicker through the uprights. So kid's
Speaker 1: been a little naughty and he's definitely not getting any
Speaker 1: presents from Santa. Yeah, definitely not. Okay, here you got
Speaker 1: naughty list. Okay, let's keep going with our naughty list.
Speaker 1: I love this. Santa must love when he gets this
Speaker 1: list and he gets to decide who gets their new PS.
Speaker 1: Five's let's go with Antonio Brown. Okay, no straight naughty,
Speaker 1: no stranger to controversy. I mean, where do we start with?
Speaker 1: Goodall A B his ex chef said he didn't pay
Speaker 1: a debt, which seems to be a pattern with Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown not paying people. But then the chef went public
Speaker 1: and outed A B for having a fake VAX card
Speaker 1: whoa which turned out to be true. It actually turned
Speaker 1: out to be true. He was walking around with like
Speaker 1: think I think he's walking around with this eyes receipt
Speaker 1: claiming that it was facts card. So the NFL suspended
Speaker 1: for three games. That hurts the team, obviously, I mean,
Speaker 1: a fake vax card. Come on, a B, what are
Speaker 1: you the mcglovin of the NFL. You're on our naughty List. Buddy,
Speaker 1: you're a naughty naughty boy. And isn't it a felony?
Speaker 1: Isn't he facing like more serious charges? I think that
Speaker 1: depends on the state. I think in Florida you actually
Speaker 1: get like a tax break if you have a fake
Speaker 1: vax card. Okay, Florida. In Texas they kind of just
Speaker 1: promote you. But everywhere else could be great in your name,
Speaker 1: great in your name. Whatever. You go to Aaron Rodgers house,
Speaker 1: you get a free dinner. Okay. I've got a good
Speaker 1: one here that I think is gonna jog people's memory
Speaker 1: because I kind of dug for this one. It's Bob Baffort.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the story from back over the Summer.
Speaker 1: He was the legendary horse trainer and he was suspended
Speaker 1: two years by Churchill Downs for the Kentucky Derby winner
Speaker 1: me Dina Spirits positive drug test, who actually died a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. It's actually very sad, but we've
Speaker 1: got enough to worry about what people taking horse d warmers.
Speaker 1: We don't need horses taking steroids. There's enough of that
Speaker 1: in sports that involved actual humans. Bob Baffer, you are
Speaker 1: on the naughty list, sir, you bad boy. Let me
Speaker 1: bring up another obvious bad boy this year. He's been
Speaker 1: real naughty, real real naughty. Okay, my buddy, John Gruden,
Speaker 1: you've been a bad boy, Johnny. Okay. The NFL reviewed
Speaker 1: six hundred fifty thousand emails as part of their investigation
Speaker 1: into misconduct by the Washington football team, and Johnny Gruden
Speaker 1: used a kind of language that I would say, get
Speaker 1: you on the naughty list. Okay, it also gets your
Speaker 1: mouth washed out with soap if you grew up my household.
Speaker 1: So uh, you're fired. Not to not to borrow a
Speaker 1: line from our old commander in chief, but your fire.
Speaker 1: The only thing more offensive than the Raiders offense this
Speaker 1: season turned out to be their former coaches email. So
Speaker 1: there you go, Santa. You're not You're not making a
Speaker 1: stop at the Gruden household. Just absolutely brutal. I mean
Speaker 1: that sums up our naughty list pretty good. Are you
Speaker 1: ready for the nice list? I'm ready for the nice list.
Speaker 1: I'm sick of talking about these bad boys. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: that's our new segment going into the new year. We
Speaker 1: have our naughty boys segment like that. Okay, here's a
Speaker 1: nice boy, J. J. Watt. He's Walter Payton Man of
Speaker 1: the Year winner. He continues to do right in the community.
Speaker 1: He did with Hurricane Harvey. Remember back in Houston or
Speaker 1: anything back home in Wisconsin. This year, he paid for
Speaker 1: the funeral services of those lost in that Christmas parade
Speaker 1: and Walkershaw, Wisconsin, that horrific run over by a car.
Speaker 1: It was horrible grandmothers and children, I mean horrible thing
Speaker 1: that happened in and J. J. Watt did right by
Speaker 1: that community. He is on the Nice List. He aid
Speaker 1: for all of the funeral services for that, so I
Speaker 1: I had to put J. J. Watt top of the
Speaker 1: Nice List. He continues to do the right thing year
Speaker 1: after year, year after year. J. J. Watt is one
Speaker 1: of Santa's favorite and so is Janice Combo. He is
Speaker 1: on one of the most epic journeys we've seen in
Speaker 1: NBA history. He's uh NBA Project to NBA Champion. I
Speaker 1: remember when he came in as a scrawny, you know,
Speaker 1: nineteen year old, eighteen nineteen year old coming to the
Speaker 1: Bucks organization. Then he sprouted up, he grew, he worked
Speaker 1: on his game, He's got the competitiveness, and he finally
Speaker 1: brought something good to Milwaukee. A title. Those people need it,
Speaker 1: they deserve it, and let's be honest, he became the
Speaker 1: second most famous Greek next to me. So congratulations for
Speaker 1: putting another Yannis on the map, because I've already put
Speaker 1: our name sake on the map. And let's just remember
Speaker 1: the Suns were up to oh in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1: It looks like the box were done. Same old story
Speaker 1: for Milwaukee. But the Greek freak he would not be
Speaker 1: denied and he ended up I think it was a
Speaker 1: forty point game fifty. I'm sorry, got a fifty piece.
Speaker 1: He went to Chick fil A and he got a
Speaker 1: fifty piece the chicken. It was amazing. And he also
Speaker 1: went like sixteen for eighteen from the line, which for
Speaker 1: him was completely out of character. He just played like
Speaker 1: a superhero. He truly was a Greek god. And so
Speaker 1: he's a nice boy. He's getting a lot of nice presents.
Speaker 1: He's a nice boy. Okay, I've got another one. Do
Speaker 1: you remember back Fox Sports and the MLB, they are
Speaker 1: on the nice list for the amazing field of Dreams.
Speaker 1: Game broadcast, White Sox Verse Yankees Kevin Costner thrown out
Speaker 1: the first pitch that gorgeous sunset over the corn fields
Speaker 1: in Iowa. It was right by the original movie set
Speaker 1: it was postponed in so he finally got it lived
Speaker 1: up to the billing. I just was thinking, that was
Speaker 1: one of the best moments in sports this year, and
Speaker 1: I think they have to make the Nice List absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was really a combination of movie magic
Speaker 1: and baseball. Really made everyone feel nostalgic. We all got
Speaker 1: a nice little look at Kevin Costner again. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's on a new show and everything, but he looks great.
Speaker 1: And I don't think he said he does look great.
Speaker 1: I guess he's had plenty of time to relax in
Speaker 1: between very few movie roles. So the guy got a
Speaker 1: lot of sun and he's been really relaxing. So that
Speaker 1: was a beautiful moment. And the Yankees lost that game,
Speaker 1: didn't they though, Yeah, but it was close. Do you
Speaker 1: remember it was like a really good game too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a really good game. I mean, maybe that's
Speaker 1: what they should do, is just play all the games
Speaker 1: and cornfields because it gave it a nice feel, you know,
Speaker 1: so that it really did give it a nice feel.
Speaker 1: That was beautiful. You know who else is on the
Speaker 1: Nice list? The Son's in four guy. Remember this guy?
Speaker 1: Give it up to this guy. Yeah. Sure, they didn't
Speaker 1: win the NBA Finals. Okay, they came close, they didn't win,
Speaker 1: But I don't think anybody had a bigger moment than
Speaker 1: this guy. Not only did he knock out two Nuggets fans.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember that who were messing
Speaker 1: with him, but he called sons in four. He's like
Speaker 1: the Babe Ruth of calling his shot. Shout out to
Speaker 1: him and his right hand. It's pretty good. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I don't think he deserves to me on our nice list.
Speaker 1: Our nice list is really prestigious and hard to make.
Speaker 1: And he you mentioned he hurt two Nuggets fans. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the deal, Olivia. When I came on this show,
Speaker 1: the standard drop for a lot of things. So I'm
Speaker 1: dropping the standard. Not only am I dropping the standard
Speaker 1: for the content on this show and the sports Nodge
Speaker 1: also dropping the standard for who makes the nice list.
Speaker 1: And that was entertaining. And so he's on my nice list. Well,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see who else may make our
Speaker 1: naughty your nice list. He's our next guest. Let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and bring in Darren Williams to balance out our
Speaker 1: naughty and nice. Let's see what we get now, let's
Speaker 1: bringing our guests. He's a three time NBA All Star
Speaker 1: and I believe the only person in history to have
Speaker 1: won two gold medals with the US men's basketball team
Speaker 1: and also have an undefeated professional boxing record. One to oh,
Speaker 1: Darren Williams. Thanks for being here, d Well, how are
Speaker 1: you doing. I'm doing good. Thanks for having me. You
Speaker 1: look like an undefeated man, do I you got a
Speaker 1: nice glow to you that a little coping marks, but yeah,
Speaker 1: not so good. Yeah, I gotta ask you that shove,
Speaker 1: that Frank Gore shove. Were you trying to get him
Speaker 1: out of the ring? Was it like a w W
Speaker 1: E move war? No, he was just grabbing and holding.
Speaker 1: And if you look like I broke away from him
Speaker 1: and hit him because he was holding and then he
Speaker 1: went to grab me again, and so it was just
Speaker 1: like a push, which happens a lot in boxing if
Speaker 1: you watch boxing. Usually they you know, they bounce off
Speaker 1: the ropes, not go through them. I think he was
Speaker 1: trying to sneak in a breather. I mean he looked
Speaker 1: a little winded. I mean you your cardio looked really good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I was tired, but I definitely had another
Speaker 1: round or two in me for sure. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: think he was a little more gas than I was.
Speaker 1: How did this fight come to be? What motivated you
Speaker 1: to even try this? Honestly? I got a call I
Speaker 1: was walking through Target one day from Niki Sabadarian, who
Speaker 1: I knew from from his UFC days. You know, I
Speaker 1: hadn't spoken to him and over you know, six seven
Speaker 1: years probably, and I was walking through Target. I got
Speaker 1: a call from him saying he was back in the
Speaker 1: fight game and I want to know if if I
Speaker 1: wanted to be an opponent for Frank Gore. Frank Gore
Speaker 1: has been training and is looking for an opponent, and
Speaker 1: so gave me kind of all the details. And I
Speaker 1: talked to my business partner at my gym for this
Speaker 1: m M M A Safe ste and told him what was
Speaker 1: going on. And I called him back later that night
Speaker 1: and said we were in So it's kind of how
Speaker 1: it happened. See, I usually lose cell service and targets.
Speaker 1: That's really good that you did it. You said right
Speaker 1: after that you were one and done. You said you're
Speaker 1: never doing this again. Now you're a little bit removed,
Speaker 1: do you still feel that way. I'm so sore today,
Speaker 1: my whole body sore. I don't know from the adrenaline
Speaker 1: or what. But yeah, I think my mind is still
Speaker 1: still still the same, you know. Of course, like the
Speaker 1: competitiveness of me wants to do, you know, another one.
Speaker 1: But if I was younger, if I was you know,
Speaker 1: three or four or five years younger, I probably would
Speaker 1: do another one. But but at my age right now,
Speaker 1: it's just like just a lot, you know. It's a
Speaker 1: lot too to train for us, a lot. I talked
Speaker 1: about the post fight press conference where I just you know,
Speaker 1: my kids have a lot of stuff going on right now,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to try to just dedicate myself
Speaker 1: to another sport again and miss time with them. So
Speaker 1: as of right now, yeah, I officially retired from boxing. It.
Speaker 1: How long have you been an M m A fan? Because,
Speaker 1: like you said, you're you're financially involved in it, you train.
Speaker 1: How far back is you love for M M A?
Speaker 1: Go all the way back to the beginning, you know,
Speaker 1: I've always been a a UFC fans since day one,
Speaker 1: since it came on, And when I was in Utah,
Speaker 1: I used to I knew a lot of the local
Speaker 1: fighters there, you know, guys like Josh Berkman who was
Speaker 1: fighting for the UFC and and the World Series of
Speaker 1: Fighting at the time, and Steven Siler and a bunch
Speaker 1: of other guys, Shawn O'Connell and so I used to
Speaker 1: go to like the little promotions out there, and just
Speaker 1: something I've always enjoyed them. I've always been drawn to
Speaker 1: M M A. I think because of my wrestling background
Speaker 1: and so I just always had that love for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess you gotta find something to do in Salt
Speaker 1: Lake City anyway, right, Not that it's not that bad
Speaker 1: or if you're looking at a party every night, you know,
Speaker 1: Salt Lake is probably not the place you want to be,
Speaker 1: But it's a it's a really fun, fun city. I
Speaker 1: just remember every time I've been in Salt Lake City,
Speaker 1: like the first time I went, all these girls would
Speaker 1: come up to me and start talking to me and
Speaker 1: being really nice, and I was like, Wow, this must
Speaker 1: be a city where it's easy to pick up chicks.
Speaker 1: And all of them were just trying to get me
Speaker 1: into the churchill out of day Saints. You know, they
Speaker 1: have a mission, they have a mission. How do you
Speaker 1: describe like going into the fight, walking into the ring
Speaker 1: verse walking into a playoff game or something like that,
Speaker 1: because it's just you out there. I tried to stay
Speaker 1: kind of even killed, like the whole through this whole
Speaker 1: process and not get like two up or two down,
Speaker 1: and honestly, it kind of felt like the same thing.
Speaker 1: You know, I really wasn't nervous. My nervousness started like
Speaker 1: when I took the fight, and you know, five or
Speaker 1: six weeks ago, when I wasn't there, when I was
Speaker 1: out of shape, when hadn't sparred over you know, well
Speaker 1: over a year. I'm like, I don't know what, Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe this was a mistake, maybe I shouldn't have done this.
Speaker 1: But as the fight got closer, I was ready to
Speaker 1: get in there. I was ready to stop training, you know,
Speaker 1: stop sparring. I wanted just to fight. And so, you know,
Speaker 1: the walk was fun, but I feel like it just
Speaker 1: happened so quick, and it was like it almost was
Speaker 1: like I wasn't even there. It was like I was
Speaker 1: just kind of floating. My coach was talking to me,
Speaker 1: you know, get me ready, got in a ring, and
Speaker 1: it felt like it just all of a sudden, we
Speaker 1: were in the middle and it started and it was
Speaker 1: kind of surreal. How much would you love to drop
Speaker 1: down and wait just one more fight and just beat
Speaker 1: the ship out of Jake Paul. Listen, man, that kid
Speaker 1: is tough. You know, you can say what you want
Speaker 1: to say. And I know, you know he's calling out
Speaker 1: Canelo and stuff like that. That's ridiculous, but you know
Speaker 1: you have to respect what he's done. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: he's knocked out every pony's faced, every opponents faced, he
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to win, and he can fight. I mean
Speaker 1: he kicked in box he uh. That being said, I
Speaker 1: feel like at some point he's gonna get humbled. They've
Speaker 1: picked the right opponents, every one, and they haven't found
Speaker 1: the one that's gonna humble him yet. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's gonna be me, like I said, because of my age.
Speaker 1: He's been doing this for you know, two or three
Speaker 1: years now, seriously, so he's got to jump on me
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But you know he's good. You
Speaker 1: sound like such a typical former athlete who says, you know,
Speaker 1: at my age, at my age, you think, listen to this,
Speaker 1: you're sixty seven years old, Like I feel sixty seven
Speaker 1: right now, right in this moment when I laugh right now,
Speaker 1: my back hurt well, and this is not the podcast
Speaker 1: to come on because you're honest, will crack you up. No,
Speaker 1: it's funny when when an NFL player, NBA player is
Speaker 1: going into a game and the announcers will say, and
Speaker 1: how about this folks, here he is at thirty three
Speaker 1: years old? Can you believe it? And you're like, what
Speaker 1: the hell? I'm thirty four and still paying my you know,
Speaker 1: college debts. What is the average fans watching it? Like
Speaker 1: what are they talking about? But how difficult was that
Speaker 1: at your age to get ready? Like dog years? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what it's like that, Like, you know, you compare
Speaker 1: my body at thirty seven to somebody who was not
Speaker 1: who wasn't a professional athlete, who didn't you know, put
Speaker 1: in twelve years and plus college, plus AU and all that.
Speaker 1: I got a lot more miles than than the typical person.
Speaker 1: Bone on bone and both knees and you know, I
Speaker 1: strained my ankle in the first round. I don't even
Speaker 1: know it. Somebody told me I did. But after I
Speaker 1: swool up and I was like, I don't even remember
Speaker 1: what happened. But and it was tough. It was tough
Speaker 1: to get through the camp. You know, there was times
Speaker 1: where I was like, and I don't know if I
Speaker 1: can make it. I had a risk injury throughout camp
Speaker 1: where I two weeks out. I was like, man like
Speaker 1: everything him. He was like, I'm not fooling out, Like
Speaker 1: it's gotta be broken for me to pull out. But
Speaker 1: it was definitely causing some issues, inspiring things. You have
Speaker 1: a few daughters. I have a daughter now too. Should
Speaker 1: I take up boxing or m m A. Just to
Speaker 1: let you guys know what the deal is, let him know.
Speaker 1: You let him know so you know, like my my
Speaker 1: oldest her boyfriend was over yesterday. You know, he was
Speaker 1: congratulated me and stuff. But he's thinking twice now even
Speaker 1: I mean he already was before I figured him, but
Speaker 1: now he's really thinking twice. Like, man, you know, I
Speaker 1: gotta be straight and narrow. I can't. I can't mess up.
Speaker 1: I would think just as a former NBA player, that'd
Speaker 1: be intimidating enough. But now you have like actual tape
Speaker 1: he can turn on and watch and be like, oh
Speaker 1: that's a mean nuppercut. Yeah, I tell you you've got reach, man,
Speaker 1: You've got a nice little reach, nice little one too,
Speaker 1: nice little jab, nice little cross. You better be careful,
Speaker 1: very careful. Okay, let's talk about this NBA season. I
Speaker 1: want to pick your brain a little bit on the
Speaker 1: nets and just everything that we're seeing across sports with
Speaker 1: covid and obviously the Kyrie story has been huge. But
Speaker 1: what do you see with the nets, especially now that
Speaker 1: they can and plan on mixing and Kyrie. Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 1: I mean this is a tough situation for everybody. You know,
Speaker 1: Re has his fans and I respect that. Yeah, props
Speaker 1: to have for not waivering, for not folding, you know,
Speaker 1: for sticking to his guns. And I'm glad he's gotta
Speaker 1: be able to, you know, be incorporated back to the team.
Speaker 1: But also like how does that work, you know, having
Speaker 1: somebody on the there half the games. And I was
Speaker 1: thinking about we're talking about it the other day when
Speaker 1: when it was announced. Its like the playoffs. That's the
Speaker 1: toughest thing. It's like a like half playoff games. You know,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. But I think there's a team that can
Speaker 1: do it. It's one of those teams where there's a
Speaker 1: lot of veterans and you guys will feeling and they
Speaker 1: can you know, they have probuably top two player in
Speaker 1: the league, and Kevin Durant games hard, and so I
Speaker 1: think they'll be okay. Do you think it's hard because
Speaker 1: I remember you went what was it you Joe Johnson
Speaker 1: and uh I can't remember the third, but you were
Speaker 1: kind of put on a team that was considered like
Speaker 1: a little bit of a super team. Do you think
Speaker 1: it's hard, like for the Lakers and and the Nets
Speaker 1: to get the chemistry. Is the talent more important or
Speaker 1: is the chemistry more important? KG? Paul peers, Yeah, Paul, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's the chemistry. I think chemistry is everything,
Speaker 1: because you can have all the talent in the world,
Speaker 1: but if it's not the right mix, if they don't mesh,
Speaker 1: if they don't you know, play well together, then it
Speaker 1: it makes things tough. And I think that I like
Speaker 1: Brooklyn's mix of talent a little bit better than I
Speaker 1: do l A's. I think it goes well together. But
Speaker 1: also it's hard to tell right now. So it's so
Speaker 1: early with those teams, and they just out together, especially
Speaker 1: the Lakers, and I know that once the playoffs hit,
Speaker 1: you know, those teams, especially Lebron teams, they turn it
Speaker 1: up a whole another notch. That's kind of I think
Speaker 1: you gotta wait till it gets into the latter part
Speaker 1: of the season. I mean, it's not an All Star
Speaker 1: break yet, so a lot of people tend to panic early,
Speaker 1: especially with these super teams, and so you can't really
Speaker 1: do that. You just gotta let it play out. What
Speaker 1: are you seeing from another team in the state of California,
Speaker 1: especially as a former guard yourself, The Warriors have been
Speaker 1: so hot. Steph Curry just breaking the all time three
Speaker 1: point record as well. I mean, what are they doing
Speaker 1: that's so different from everyone else? They're healthy, Yeah, well
Speaker 1: for the most part, you know, still waiting on you know,
Speaker 1: on Clay, but you know, steps on a on a mission.
Speaker 1: It seems like to prove that he's the best player
Speaker 1: in the league, and rightfully so, because what he's doing
Speaker 1: out there, night in and night out is incredible. You know,
Speaker 1: Draymond is playing great basketball. But I think the key
Speaker 1: right now, a big part of the team is Andrew Wiggins.
Speaker 1: Very underrated, you know, superstar in this league, and I
Speaker 1: think he's just now like kind of coming into his
Speaker 1: own and having that confidence playing for Steve Kerr. Does
Speaker 1: that for you? You You know, he just has an ultimate
Speaker 1: confidence right now. It's fun to watch. The team is
Speaker 1: just a fun team to watch and as dangerous as anybody,
Speaker 1: especially come playoffs. You were kind of sort of the
Speaker 1: last generation of sort of the way the NBA used
Speaker 1: to be played, and now it's just everyone shooting up threes.
Speaker 1: Which league do you like better? That's a good question.
Speaker 1: So that's so it's tough to say. Um, if I
Speaker 1: was in my prime during this error right here, I think,
Speaker 1: I mean it would be fun, yeah, you know, because
Speaker 1: I mean, these two these guys just have the ultimate
Speaker 1: confidence because it's not really a bad shot. You know,
Speaker 1: when I was playing, man, you took so many shots,
Speaker 1: Jerry Slona, have your ass on the bench real quick.
Speaker 1: Like even me, it would be like, all right, you know,
Speaker 1: you come sit down right here by me for a
Speaker 1: little bit and we'll see. We'll see how you like
Speaker 1: taking those shots. This is a whole different league and
Speaker 1: whole different way of playing. You know. Then this is
Speaker 1: on getting up a lot of shots, a lot of
Speaker 1: quick shots, a lot of threes. And it just wasn't
Speaker 1: like that. It was more you know, getting inside points
Speaker 1: in the paint points in the paint points in the
Speaker 1: paint and then you know, kick it out and hit
Speaker 1: some threes here and there. You mentioned Lebron James earlier
Speaker 1: and just how much he can change the personality of
Speaker 1: a team. You played with him on Team USA, So
Speaker 1: be honest, what did you really think of Space Jam two.
Speaker 1: I like that. I like I like Space there too.
Speaker 1: It it was not Space Jam one. It wasn't as
Speaker 1: good as Spacial In one. You know, I have younger,
Speaker 1: younger kids. I have, you know, two boys. I thought
Speaker 1: they did a good job of bringing in today's world
Speaker 1: social media and technology, like it's just a different it's
Speaker 1: a different time, and I thought they did a good
Speaker 1: job of bringing that in. And I enjoyed the movie.
Speaker 1: You know, I still prefer Spaceham one. He said, all right,
Speaker 1: you gotta watch one or the other. I'm picking Space
Speaker 1: Jam one. But it's also I also really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: My kids enjoyed it, and I thought it was a
Speaker 1: good movie. On that note, just about Lebron, when you
Speaker 1: were saying about k D said he's one of the
Speaker 1: top two players in the league, I assume you're saying
Speaker 1: Lebron's one, and then what are you seeing from him
Speaker 1: this season? He's incredible. Yeah, I mean it's hard for
Speaker 1: me to put anybody above Lebron, and probably will be
Speaker 1: until he retires. But Katie's he's like a one B,
Speaker 1: you know, and on any day is one A. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just incredible to see what he's doing
Speaker 1: at his age. You know, we're the same age. I
Speaker 1: was feeling good, you know, I got got my weight
Speaker 1: down for the fight, and I was taking my trash
Speaker 1: out the other day and I went to grab the
Speaker 1: rim and I was impressed and I grabbed the rim
Speaker 1: and then I see Lebron, you know, double pump in
Speaker 1: one hand bringing it under Duncan, and I'm like, dag, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm probably myself for grabbing the rim. And this dude
Speaker 1: is getting thirty and twelve, you know, nightly, and so
Speaker 1: you know, it's just amazing to see what see him
Speaker 1: playing the way he's playing night in and night out,
Speaker 1: still leading teams, Still the best player in the league.
Speaker 1: Are you still close with a K forty seven? You guys?
Speaker 1: Still we talked on on Instagram. He lives in Russia,
Speaker 1: and you know, I haven't talked to him like on
Speaker 1: the phone in a while. I need to connect with him.
Speaker 1: But you know, I talked to a lot of the
Speaker 1: jazz guys, remember to Curb Boozer, you know, Ronnie Brewer
Speaker 1: and so Kyle Korver of my old teammates. Um, but
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to a k in a while. Just
Speaker 1: kind of hit him on on Instagram here and there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what was it like playing for Jerry Sloan? I was
Speaker 1: a big jazz fan during the run with him in
Speaker 1: Stockton All. I think Sloan is one of the most
Speaker 1: underrated coaches. He's obviously a hard nosed defense guy, that's
Speaker 1: the way he played. What was it like playing for him?
Speaker 1: For sure? I mean you said it. He's one of
Speaker 1: those coaches that made you work hard, always had us
Speaker 1: ready to play, you know, and it was fun. I
Speaker 1: definitely enjoyed and I learned a lot playing for Coach Sloan.
Speaker 1: And you know, even though it didn't end well between us,
Speaker 1: you know, he's definitely was the best coach that I've
Speaker 1: ever had a chance to play for him. Speaking of
Speaker 1: the way things and retirement, I I always wonder how
Speaker 1: guys decide when to hang it up, because you want
Speaker 1: to go out on a high, but you also don't
Speaker 1: want to be hobbling to the end. And I assume
Speaker 1: it's kind of a group decision with your family, maybe
Speaker 1: your agents involved. Walk me through your retirement, what factors
Speaker 1: were involved. I didn't know if I was going to retire,
Speaker 1: you know, I honestly I didn't like I didn't like
Speaker 1: how my last season ended, you know, the way I
Speaker 1: went out in the series against the Warriors, you know,
Speaker 1: going to for thirteen or whatever. I was from the field,
Speaker 1: but you know, I didn't enjoy my that role. I
Speaker 1: didn't have a chance to really grow into that role.
Speaker 1: Was my first time not being a starter. You know,
Speaker 1: it was kind of just like a little five months
Speaker 1: what I was. I went from you know, starting you know,
Speaker 1: shooting fourteen fifteen shots a game, to coming off the
Speaker 1: beach and just kind of getting in where I fit in.
Speaker 1: And it was a little adjustment and I didn't love
Speaker 1: that role. And so after the season, I kind of
Speaker 1: took some time and I wasn't sure if I wanted
Speaker 1: to play anymore. I dealt with a bunch of injuries
Speaker 1: throughout my career, especially the last five years, where it
Speaker 1: mentally took his toll on me, and I just wasn't
Speaker 1: sure that I could make it through a season without
Speaker 1: getting hurt and then you know, I have to deal
Speaker 1: with that again. And so as time went on, and
Speaker 1: you know, I missed basketball, but also it was a
Speaker 1: joint spending time with my family. That time off kind
Speaker 1: of just extended into a retirement, early retirement for I
Speaker 1: knew it's been four years, and you know, I definitely
Speaker 1: missed the game. I missed competing. But it's a lot
Speaker 1: to take four years off and try to come back
Speaker 1: and play against these young kids, you know, especially at
Speaker 1: thirty seven. So yeah, my time has done with basketball.
Speaker 1: You brought up your kids a lot. You're clearly such
Speaker 1: a proud dad. We had Brandon Jacobs on a former giant,
Speaker 1: on the show and he said, when he's at with
Speaker 1: his kids and people come up to him and ask
Speaker 1: him for a picture, he says, no, I'm not Brandon
Speaker 1: Jacobs today. Do you ever have to do that or
Speaker 1: have you ever had an unruly fan approach you when
Speaker 1: you're out with your kids? Yeah? Yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: used to happen a lot, and you know, sometimes I
Speaker 1: probably didn't handle it the right way. But you know,
Speaker 1: now it doesn't really happen that much. And so when
Speaker 1: it does, I'm definitely more obliged to to it, you know,
Speaker 1: because it's just like a one and done before. You know,
Speaker 1: when I was playing, it was like one person comes
Speaker 1: up pretty soon it's like twenty and you know, my
Speaker 1: kids are standing. They're looking at me, like I just
Speaker 1: want to spend time with my dad and he's you know,
Speaker 1: they don't understand that this is my job. This is
Speaker 1: These are fans, you know, they're four or five, six
Speaker 1: years old. They just think, oh, my dad's not paying
Speaker 1: attention to me. So I don't have to deal with
Speaker 1: that as much anymore. Like I said, So it's it's
Speaker 1: it's not as big a deal and they understand, and
Speaker 1: I think they actually kind of think it's cool. Now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. I'm trying to remember when you play, did
Speaker 1: the rest let guys get away with traveling as much
Speaker 1: as they do? Now? Does that frustrate you when you're
Speaker 1: watching I played basketball, it's my favorite sport, and watching it,
Speaker 1: I just lose my mind. I mean they just I mean,
Speaker 1: guys can take like four or five shots. I mean
Speaker 1: it's like it's like rugby now. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: don't think it was as bad, but these some of
Speaker 1: these moves that they're doing weren't kind of these are
Speaker 1: like new developed moves, you know, you see the James
Speaker 1: Harden step backs, kind of the new saying, Steph does
Speaker 1: it a little bit? You know. I saw Trey Young
Speaker 1: the other day. He took like one dribble from half court.
Speaker 1: He's five, you know, five nine, and somehow got to
Speaker 1: the basket, took about four steps and then I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's funny sometimes to watch it. It's funny
Speaker 1: too to see on Instagram and Twitter and stuff like
Speaker 1: that when they slow him down. But yeah, we definitely
Speaker 1: weren't getting away with none of that stuff. You think
Speaker 1: it's good for the game or is it like a
Speaker 1: little Harlem blobtrottary. I don't know. I mean some of
Speaker 1: them are. It's it's hard. I feel like it's when
Speaker 1: you see him slow down, it's easy to catch. But
Speaker 1: I feel like when it's real time, they're hard because
Speaker 1: they're very subtle, you know, and it's like sometimes I
Speaker 1: don't even notice it until it's slowed down. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: the rest, as much as I hate him, they have
Speaker 1: a job, you know, they have a really tough out there. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: would not want to switch places at them. We've talked
Speaker 1: a little bit about your run at the Olympics. I'm curious.
Speaker 1: Two gold medals is a lifelong dream for so many
Speaker 1: athletes in various sports. It seems like the highest mark
Speaker 1: you can get in your sport. But for an NBA player,
Speaker 1: seems all y'all want to do is win it all?
Speaker 1: Would you trade one of those? Are both of those
Speaker 1: gold medals for an NBA ring? That's tough. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a tough that's tough. Why would you even ask me?
Speaker 1: That's because we asked the tough questions. Obviously, I wish
Speaker 1: I had a ring because I don't have one, and that's,
Speaker 1: you know, something I'm missing from my career. But I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think I would trade one of my my
Speaker 1: gold medals. I mean, they mean they mean a lot
Speaker 1: to me. An Olympian is is is an incredible honor,
Speaker 1: you know, just to call yourself an Olympian but also
Speaker 1: be able to call yourself a gold medalist and a
Speaker 1: two time gold medalist. Think it's a really cool thing
Speaker 1: and it makes me very proud and something I can
Speaker 1: always be proud of. And so for that I don't
Speaker 1: think I would ever trade one for a ring. I wish,
Speaker 1: wish I would have been able to get one. In addition, yeah,
Speaker 1: you played with Kobe Bryant, obviously, did you all always
Speaker 1: get along? He sometimes he was fiery and tough to
Speaker 1: get along with because he was such a competitor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I never. I mean, of course there was
Speaker 1: times times and games where I got into it with Kobe,
Speaker 1: you know, just because of you know, I'm a competitor.
Speaker 1: He's a competitor. But we were always friendly and always
Speaker 1: it was always, you know, all love after after the
Speaker 1: games or after they beat our ass in a serious
Speaker 1: because I don't I never want a serious against him.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it was. It was definitely fun
Speaker 1: to compete against him, one of the greatest competitors that
Speaker 1: I've ever had a chance to compete against. For sure.
Speaker 1: Can you leave us with a great Kobe story? Was
Speaker 1: there anything smack talk on the court, something funny? I've
Speaker 1: told what I've told this story before, but I remember,
Speaker 1: I think it was my rookie year. I think I
Speaker 1: read a pick and roll with I think with the
Speaker 1: two guard and Kobe switched on me and I was,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to get into my little package and
Speaker 1: and go buy me. As soon as I did, he
Speaker 1: just like jumps jumps up into me and just starts smacking.
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about just hacking me, right, And I
Speaker 1: think I I got mad, like I finally got the
Speaker 1: ball because you know, after I gathered it, throw it
Speaker 1: away past and I'm complaining to the ref. He's like,
Speaker 1: come on, you feel it in' I gonna call that
Speaker 1: on me? And uh, like, I was so mad, but
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you're right, they're not. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to I have no worst. I haven't earned any respect
Speaker 1: in this league. He's Kobe Bryant. So I just had
Speaker 1: to kind of play through it. Well, you were, you
Speaker 1: were a great player, man, you were. You were a big,
Speaker 1: strong guard, nice low handle. Do you see any point
Speaker 1: guards today that remind you of your game? Or is
Speaker 1: everyone just finesse and shoot? That's so different because you know,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of post ups and I posted
Speaker 1: up a lot. You know, I feel like the guards
Speaker 1: are more a lot more athletic than me. That's for sure,
Speaker 1: a lot quicker, but it's just a different style of game,
Speaker 1: and so it's kind of hard to compare you know
Speaker 1: myself to anybody this out there right now? Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: finding out. You gotta go, man, this was an amazing time.
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming. It's an homymous speak to you. You're
Speaker 1: boxing and uh good good luck keeping those dudes away
Speaker 1: from the daughters with that long reach. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having Yeah, Darren, I can't wait to talk
Speaker 1: to you after your next win in the ring because
Speaker 1: something tells me you're not really done. I don't know
Speaker 1: about that. Thanks Darren, that was amazing. All right, thank you.
Speaker 1: We're joined now by Peter Andrew, who was son kissed
Speaker 1: from his weekend in Florida, but he's starving because he's
Speaker 1: now on a reduced cleanse to make up for his
Speaker 1: sins in Florida. Peter, are you with us? Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you coherent? If the pigs don't hit this week?
Speaker 1: His wife's blamed that you cleans. Anyone who's done in
Speaker 1: juice cleans knows that is not for the faint of heart.
Speaker 1: It it's headache inducing. You feel weak, you feel piste
Speaker 1: off at everyone in the side of food makes you
Speaker 1: just jealous, really right, Yeah, I am. I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm on another planet. Right now. But it's okay, Christmas
Speaker 1: is almost here. Seven fishes Italian style, we'll be there soon. Okay,
Speaker 1: you guys have to walk me through that. What is that?
Speaker 1: So Italians don't eat meat on Christmas Eve? So we
Speaker 1: do seven fishes. So whether it's crabs, calmari, we do
Speaker 1: lobster like front diablo. So you do seven different unique
Speaker 1: types of fish, no meat all day and then Christmas
Speaker 1: days when you go go nuts with meat. Honest, what
Speaker 1: do the Greeks do? The Greek's eat lamb? We eat
Speaker 1: lamb at every occasion. I mean people say a wolf
Speaker 1: is the lamb's natural predator, but they are second in
Speaker 1: line to the Greeks. Greeks are the number one lamb
Speaker 1: predator on the planet. We really threaten their population numbers.
Speaker 1: You just say it's about a Jew cleanse. You also
Speaker 1: know when someone's on a juice close they've been a
Speaker 1: naughty boy. So your d Jews on our naughty list.
Speaker 1: He must have been drinking who knows what he was
Speaker 1: drinking and eating to get him on that juice cleanse.
Speaker 1: But juice cleanses are always trying to make up for
Speaker 1: something horribly did. We'll get stuff on the podcast next week,
Speaker 1: and you'll hear I'm in the doghouse. Oh yeah, you're
Speaker 1: also you're reprimanding yourself for doing something really bad. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll have to ask stuff about that. Okay, let's get
Speaker 1: to NFL. Because it is Christmas week, we are loaded
Speaker 1: up with games. In fact, this past weekend was so bizarre.
Speaker 1: We had games going until Tuesday. So what are we
Speaker 1: looking at this week, Peter, you get to pick every
Speaker 1: week our three games punishment Pitch. Yeah, you know it's
Speaker 1: crazy with all the COVID stuff, but selfishly, it's kind
Speaker 1: of fun when you have Saturday night football, Sunday football, Monday, Tuesday.
Speaker 1: So you know it's weird, but we're not complaining. So
Speaker 1: great Slate. Coming into this week, we're starting to really find,
Speaker 1: you know, those let's call it nine teams in each
Speaker 1: conference that are probably voing for the playoff spots. So
Speaker 1: I've picked it based off that. So first game, Christmas
Speaker 1: Night on you have a really interesting one. You have
Speaker 1: Colts plus one at the Cardinals, So Cardinals one point favorite.
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray not looking good last couple of games, especially
Speaker 1: since coming back from injury. DeAndre Hopkins out for the year.
Speaker 1: And then obviously you've seen what Jonathan Taylor has done
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, ending the game last week with
Speaker 1: that sixty eight yard touchdown run. He is that offense
Speaker 1: and is that team so an interesting one? Here? What
Speaker 1: do you guys like? I'm surprised that the Colts aren't favorite.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. They've looked so good. They beat the Patriots,
Speaker 1: Cardinals just lost to the Lions, and I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess you could say, oh, they they're so embarrassed.
Speaker 1: They come back swinging, they overcompensate, So maybe that, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the Colts are just so sneaky.
Speaker 1: They're like the first team that hard knocks coming to
Speaker 1: them was a blessing, and we've seen this revitalized team.
Speaker 1: Gotta take the Colts. I'm gonna agree here. I think
Speaker 1: that Cults is the culture team nobody wants to see.
Speaker 1: You know, It's like, oh boy, they could beat anybody.
Speaker 1: So uh and for all the reasons you just mentioned,
Speaker 1: I'm going with the Colts too. Yeah. I think they've
Speaker 1: played the top two defenses rush defenses, I think in
Speaker 1: the Bills and the Patriots, and they've essentially Jonathan Tyler
Speaker 1: has made a mockery of them. I really like Colts
Speaker 1: here too, So I'm with you guys. Next on, So
Speaker 1: you had Vikings at home playing the Rams. Vikings are
Speaker 1: plus three, so they are a home dog. Very intriguing win.
Speaker 1: I guess you can call it from Monday Night against
Speaker 1: the Bears, where it's a bit closer, probably than they'd like.
Speaker 1: I know it's a little bit tough playing at Lambeau.
Speaker 1: So Rams minus three at the Vikings. What do you
Speaker 1: guys like here? I like the Rams. I feel like
Speaker 1: they're not out of it quite yet, and I just
Speaker 1: think they're the better team. M I mean, this is tough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Vikings have have proven their salt. I want to say
Speaker 1: their last ten games have been one score game times,
Speaker 1: which is just wild. They're the heart attack of the NFL.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go to Rams. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: the Vikings on this one. I think they're also a
Speaker 1: team that can upset anybody, can beat anybody, and I
Speaker 1: think this game just goes to them. You know, this
Speaker 1: is just gonna be their week. They play well every week,
Speaker 1: and uh, let's give it to the Vikings on this one.
Speaker 1: I've got a smoldering hot take that Olivia is probably
Speaker 1: not gonna like Justin Jefferson best wide receiver in the NFL. Well, okay, well,
Speaker 1: actually some of the best wide receivers in this game.
Speaker 1: To Cooper Cup, I don't know. My husband got very
Speaker 1: mad at me on one of our shows. I said,
Speaker 1: you know, the Rams have the best, uh, they're the
Speaker 1: best wide receiver in the league. And he just shot
Speaker 1: me a look and he said, Davantae Adams is the
Speaker 1: best receiver in the league. And I said, statistically, Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup is, and he got very mad at me. He
Speaker 1: kept bringing that one up. But no, I think that
Speaker 1: is a smoldering cold take. It's between those three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got to give him credit. He definitely he could be.
Speaker 1: He could be the best. I mean that, you know,
Speaker 1: Rogers has a lot of targets and Adams gets so
Speaker 1: much attention. That's the thing. They're starting to put two
Speaker 1: guys on him. Now. I'm not saying Kirk Cousins is
Speaker 1: a terrible quarterback, because he's not. But I think you
Speaker 1: put Justin Jefferson with Stafford or with with Rogers, and
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see as good of if not
Speaker 1: better production as Adams and Cup gets. So we'll see,
Speaker 1: We'll wait a couple of years and I'll hopefully get
Speaker 1: the last laugh. But it's those three and with Dalvin
Speaker 1: Cook in the backfield also distract defenses. I mean, he's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the siss take baby, that's what we love again.
Speaker 1: If Justin Jefferson ends up just not panning out after
Speaker 1: this year, it's it's the juice plans. It was. My
Speaker 1: mind is all over the place last game. So this
Speaker 1: is a repeat of it of an interesting one from
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. Bill's Patriots. So at Fox
Speaker 1: Barrow this time around, Bills are plus two and a half.
Speaker 1: This is another one that's airlines to me. So Patriots.
Speaker 1: Mine is to an half at home. What do you
Speaker 1: guys think here? Bills are looking a little bit better
Speaker 1: than they were of late. Yeah, well at the number.
Speaker 1: I especially love the Patriots. I think to win by
Speaker 1: three is easy. But I like them on the money
Speaker 1: line too. I think I think it's Patriots to win.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even second guessing that. I'm not even
Speaker 1: looking into it or giving you reasons why. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: saw some holes in the Patriots last game. I watched
Speaker 1: I'm going out on our hands. Yeah, I saw some holes.
Speaker 1: I'm a scout. I'm a scout. I'm gonna I'm going
Speaker 1: with Buffalo. Baby. They're putting it together. Now they're putting together.
Speaker 1: You know, did a good start, they sagged in the middle.
Speaker 1: Now they're putting it together for the run. This is
Speaker 1: a big game. Both teams need this. I think the
Speaker 1: Bills probably need it more. They're on the cusp of
Speaker 1: a playoff spot. I think they're in the six or
Speaker 1: the seventh slot, but this one essentially could determine the division.
Speaker 1: So huge game. And I think this week as a
Speaker 1: whole is just an incredible slate. So what better way
Speaker 1: to celebrate Christmas in the Hall it is than with
Speaker 1: really good games this weekend. I love it. Yeah, Ho
Speaker 1: ho ho. Can't wait for those. That's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of fun, guys. Enjoy eating your lamb and your
Speaker 1: fish and whatever the hell else you're gonna do with
Speaker 1: your family's on Christmas. But it's going to be a
Speaker 1: good one, a lot of good football to watch. Peter,
Speaker 1: thanks so much. Now we have saved the best for last,
Speaker 1: because I got a little Christmas gift for you. Honest,
Speaker 1: I want our pick segment last week, which means it's
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Speaker 1: Kylie Jenner calls herself King Kylie. Yes, I was going
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Speaker 1: here you go, King Livy. It's yeah, King Livy. Thanks
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Speaker 1: I've been riding them all year after I secured John
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Speaker 1: I think she's actually gotten funnier because of me. We
Speaker 1: already know how fertiless stunting she is. Wow, that's uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: but now she's a triple threat. Jesus so I hope
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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas.