Speaker 1: How are you good? How are you? I'm great. Thanks.
Speaker 1: I just pulled an animal spirit card just for the
Speaker 1: fuck of it, and I got scorpion. So I guess
Speaker 1: it's meant to be. Yeah, that's so weird, I know.
Speaker 2: So it feels like Milania was like in the basement
Speaker 2: last the last time that he was president, like she
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. They were They seemed like deer.
Speaker 2: They were trying to get their footing. He seemed like
Speaker 2: he was trying to He seemed like the emperor had
Speaker 2: no clothes. He sort of probably didn't think he was
Speaker 2: going to win. And then he was in office and
Speaker 2: it took a while, like and he came in so
Speaker 2: like aggressive, and he turned so many people off. And
Speaker 2: now I see I see a lot of people back
Speaker 2: pedaling who are Democrats. And because of the California fires,
Speaker 2: people are now talking about the botch job that it
Speaker 2: was there, And then overall people want to sort of
Speaker 2: now pretend that Kamala was the worst when they were
Speaker 2: the ones all saying that Kamala was the best. So
Speaker 2: people there's a lot of trust going out. The Democratic
Speaker 2: Party is like having a moment of flanling, you know,
Speaker 2: And the and As a result, it feels like because
Speaker 2: Trump is good friends with he's got Elon in the
Speaker 2: Oval office and Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos, which is
Speaker 2: not the way it was last term. Like people they
Speaker 2: weren't all cozy. They weren't all cozying up to him.
Speaker 2: So everyone just was like, all right, fine, I'm now
Speaker 2: it's acceptable and we're not pariahs anymore. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: and so and so I'm noticing that, like Melania was
Speaker 2: out there and the fire is like you know, it's
Speaker 2: just like they're both like have a little pep in
Speaker 2: their step they didn't have last time.
Speaker 1: And that's because of him. It's well actually both of them.
Speaker 1: It's fucking insane, Like what has happened. So Jupiter, which
Speaker 1: is the bestower of good fortune, and it spends a
Speaker 1: year and every sign, so every twelve years it'll come
Speaker 1: to your side. Well, May twenty fourth of last year,
Speaker 1: May twenty fifth of twenty twenty four, it moved into Gemini,
Speaker 1: which is Donald Trump's sign, and right at the time
Speaker 1: of the election, it was like sitting on top of
Speaker 1: his son. It was at the same degree of Gemini
Speaker 1: in the zodiac wheel. So he had like he could
Speaker 1: not have had better luck for himself. And Milania is
Speaker 1: a Taurus one signed before him, so she had Jupiter
Speaker 1: in the first half of last year, so it kind
Speaker 1: of gave her a reboot. Two. Let's just be real,
Speaker 1: Taurus women love money, and uh, you know, Milania, she's
Speaker 1: got some backend deal. She willed to be a crop,
Speaker 1: she's got her book, she wants to keep her lifestyle.
Speaker 1: You know, barns at nyu. She's like born in nineteen seven, right,
Speaker 1: so it's probably around our age.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was older than us. Okay, so she's still
Speaker 2: got a whole life. So once this party's over, she
Speaker 2: can stay, she can go, but she's gonna have a
Speaker 2: bag of cas.
Speaker 1: So for third act will be Yeah. See, Tauruses, tourists
Speaker 1: are investors. They want to return. If they're gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: and learning to someone like that for that long, you
Speaker 1: better damn well beginning a return on your investment for
Speaker 1: the time you put in. She's probably thinking, all right,
Speaker 1: he's pushing eighty, how much I can fake this. I
Speaker 1: don't even have to live with the guy, you know.
Speaker 1: And she got her son locked up. He's the one
Speaker 1: who looked on the election for Trump people say, because
Speaker 1: he got the younger vote, so she's got him all
Speaker 1: taken care of.
Speaker 2: And they because people used to make fun of him.
Speaker 2: Now he's like some hero. So that's the rices. They
Speaker 2: kind of come.
Speaker 1: Up from under the surface. And he's looking he's looking scary,
Speaker 1: like his expressions aren't really Yeah, see there is, so
Speaker 1: I thought is yeah, it's just like right on that
Speaker 1: March she's on the cusp. He's March twentieth. Yeah, he's yeah,
Speaker 1: sais twenty nine degrees Pisces, the with a sad moon. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So what is your analysis of my work and relationship
Speaker 2: either balance or the two buckets? Like where what the
Speaker 2: trajectory is for relationship and love and.
Speaker 1: Work?
Speaker 2: And I would say with my ask about my daughter,
Speaker 2: and but I kind of feel like that's so secure,
Speaker 2: not would like I never have to I never, I don't.
Speaker 2: I never feel uncertain about that. I never feel uncertain
Speaker 2: about work. But a lot of crazy things are happening,
Speaker 2: so I'm curious, without giving away too much, what the
Speaker 2: trajectory is.
Speaker 1: Well, Pluto, your Pluto is your ruling planet since you're
Speaker 1: a Scorpio, so when it does change signs every twelve
Speaker 1: to thirty years, all hell can break loose or just
Speaker 1: like a big change can come in. So it's now
Speaker 1: it's parked for you as a Scorpio and the part
Speaker 1: of the chart that rules your home and your family
Speaker 1: and where you live. You know, so there may be
Speaker 1: a desire to really downsize, make more time for closer
Speaker 1: connections like the last fifteen years while Pluto was in Capricorn,
Speaker 1: sixteen years, you were it was very much about like
Speaker 1: a lot of change, a lot of social building, like
Speaker 1: you built a powerful network for yourself. You were here, there, everywhere,
Speaker 1: you were fine with it. I don't think you want
Speaker 1: to be all over the place like that anymore. You
Speaker 1: want to anchor down settle in maybe you know, nest
Speaker 1: with someone and get cozy or at least just like
Speaker 1: have that part of your life be less like stressful.
Speaker 1: But if you feel a little trapped at home or
Speaker 1: a little bit like that's something you need to break out.
Speaker 2: I mean with work, work is flying beyond belief and
Speaker 2: I did, yeah, I see that. And we're rising to
Speaker 2: meet this occasion, you know what I mean. We're rising
Speaker 2: to meet the occasion with staffing up and spending a
Speaker 2: lot of money towards it. Because it is returning so
Speaker 2: much so work is exploding and going to the next
Speaker 2: level where I had kind of semi retired and decided
Speaker 2: I wasn't really going to do that much and do
Speaker 2: things I didn't want to do, and then and doing
Speaker 2: things I only wanted to do. It's more successful than
Speaker 2: my most successful day with Skinny Girl, which is crazy
Speaker 2: because it really was unintentional. It's just it just sort
Speaker 2: of reinforces people should just do what's authentically true to
Speaker 2: them because then you'll be successful at it. So it's
Speaker 2: been crazy because now it's becoming a massive thing, and
Speaker 2: the balance between that it's different. It used to be
Speaker 2: that the balance between that and my personal life was
Speaker 2: the workload, like the bandwidth, And now the balance between
Speaker 2: work and my personal life is not the bandwidth because
Speaker 2: I can totally handle it. It's just not the climb.
Speaker 2: It's not like it used to be. It's just like
Speaker 2: I'm secure in it. It's the power and the access
Speaker 2: and the fame that presents the challenges in the personal relationship.
Speaker 2: It's not the workload, right, the intimidation factor. And I've
Speaker 2: heard women say that before, and I've always cringed because
Speaker 2: it feels like narcissistic, but like it is a real thing.
Speaker 1: It is a real thing.
Speaker 2: Men. I've had men say to me that they feel
Speaker 2: self conscious around me because of all that I'm going on.
Speaker 2: Makes them feel like they have nothing going on, even
Speaker 2: if they were secure and having nothing going on, even
Speaker 2: if they had retired, even if they had their own money,
Speaker 2: it unsettles them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, right now you have Jupiter in your relationship house,
Speaker 1: which can indicate someone from another country or very different
Speaker 1: than your usual type. Because yeah, I totally hear you
Speaker 1: on that, and I think that it might be someone
Speaker 1: that you even meet through some kind of through your
Speaker 1: international work or through be strong, or someone just yeah,
Speaker 1: who like you have a common mission with. So that's
Speaker 1: not even there, Like maybe you get to Jupiter's in
Speaker 1: Gemini now. So I feel like in your chart you
Speaker 1: want someone stable and reliable and consistent who has your
Speaker 1: back and supports you. But someone who like maybe you
Speaker 1: even meet through banter, through friendship or through working on
Speaker 1: a on a project together. So going out and trying
Speaker 1: to date and look for someone like may turn up
Speaker 1: people that are like you know, ooh, I got a
Speaker 1: date with Bethany Frankel, But oh, yeah, well I can't really,
Speaker 1: you know, like, are you You don't want to keep
Speaker 1: going through that spin cycle over and over again. So
Speaker 1: I think meeting people in different ways, through travel, through
Speaker 1: through different kind of experiences. I don't know. I would
Speaker 1: just does that resonate at all or any Are there
Speaker 1: any opportunities to do that for you?
Speaker 2: I guess just putting yourself out there and telling people
Speaker 2: that you know and that you trust, that you're open,
Speaker 2: which you know because I am fairly insular and I
Speaker 2: have been dating and people have. It's been hard because
Speaker 2: if I get photograph of someone, everybody thinks I'm solid
Speaker 2: with that person and judges that, and I haven't announced anything.
Speaker 2: I've dated different people throughout this whole process because I
Speaker 2: made a commitment to myself that I wouldn't lock anything
Speaker 2: down for a certain period of time. It's just that
Speaker 2: a lot of women are saying that they're happier alone,
Speaker 2: and I don't think they're even a woman of certain age.
Speaker 2: I don't think that they're bsing. Some women that I
Speaker 2: know are really happy in their own life and they
Speaker 2: really are happy alone and they don't want to mess
Speaker 2: up their piece. I am not happier alone for sure,
Speaker 2: I'm not happier alone. I like being I'm find being alone.
Speaker 1: I like being alone.
Speaker 2: I'm actually alone a lot, but I don't want to
Speaker 2: be alone in life, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, maybe you know it wasn't resonating because it's
Speaker 1: something that you haven't tried, like you might. Like. The
Speaker 1: overall look of things in your chart right now is
Speaker 1: like if you're looking in the same places or kind
Speaker 1: of following a strand, Like I get, I think it's
Speaker 1: really good that you have that kind of play playbook
Speaker 1: that you're following, but at the same time, like just
Speaker 1: maybe trying to find some new places to go or
Speaker 1: you're not as recognized or wherever that may be. I
Speaker 1: guess what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I have changed that because I'm not
Speaker 2: dating in the normal way anymore, and then that can
Speaker 2: be isolating. But I feel like it's more of like
Speaker 2: a sit back and not just wait, but like not
Speaker 2: do a volume business like wait to your point right,
Speaker 2: wait for something that is more unique and special, versus
Speaker 2: like trying to do it the normal way because it
Speaker 2: doesn't really work.
Speaker 1: And in the chart, we look at where Mars and
Speaker 1: Venus were when you were born to kind of get
Speaker 1: a more of a clear sense of what you need
Speaker 1: from a partner. And you were born with Venus and
Speaker 1: Scorpio and Mars and libra. So I think what people
Speaker 1: might not understand is how committed you really are. Because
Speaker 1: you're funny, you're plateful, you know, but that Venus and Scorpio,
Speaker 1: we have that too. You really are like an investor
Speaker 1: in the person you're with, like you and it can
Speaker 1: make you a bit guarded in some ways, maybe to
Speaker 1: hide a little bit behind humor or tentative, like there's
Speaker 1: you know, people born with these in scorpio, so do
Speaker 1: get hurt easily? And do you have trust issues? And
Speaker 1: Mars being in Libra is a that's that's a nice
Speaker 1: thing to have in your chart, but it's also a
Speaker 1: harder position for Mars, so you might Masculine energy, as
Speaker 1: appealing as it is, can also be a little bit
Speaker 1: off putting too sometimes, like the you need a metrosexual
Speaker 1: guy who's also masculine at the same time, so you
Speaker 1: have a tall order, you know, and it's it's just
Speaker 1: going to take that very special you know, diamond, that
Speaker 1: needle in the haystack, Like you're just not going to
Speaker 1: be compatible with any old person. And your moon, which
Speaker 1: is your emotional nature's and Capricorn. So your Moon, your Venus,
Speaker 1: and Mars are all what are called indetriment. They're in
Speaker 1: the opposite sign of where they feel most comfortable. So
Speaker 1: so part of your growth and love in this lifetime
Speaker 1: is learning how to be with certain discomfort. And I
Speaker 1: think you've probably had that lesson, but it's it's the
Speaker 1: discomfort of intimacy as and if you're going for the
Speaker 1: like the I know this probably isn't going to sound
Speaker 1: that it's great, but like the right man for you
Speaker 1: might not be anywhere near you in terms of his wealth,
Speaker 1: And probably everyone's saying, oh, I need a wealthy guy
Speaker 1: who's gonna be you know, But I don't act like, no,
Speaker 1: you're not going to be with somebody who's like teaching
Speaker 1: kayaking lessons, right, but someone whose values are not necessarily
Speaker 1: around wealth creation and they have but they they're very
Speaker 1: anchored and who they are maybe are okay with like
Speaker 1: a simpler life, and there's a bit of a dissonance
Speaker 1: there where you feel like, wow, they're Wow, they don't
Speaker 1: don't they feel you know? So I feel I would
Speaker 1: as an astrologer, encourage you to like Ofi said it
Speaker 1: you yeah, like that. No, they won't be from be strong. Well,
Speaker 1: somebody who does have those values around making a difference
Speaker 1: in the world. The north note, which is this your
Speaker 1: true north, your soul's true north in this lifetime is
Speaker 1: an Aquarius for you, and that is the sign of
Speaker 1: the humanitarian and like you might find your soulmate doing
Speaker 1: humanitarian work rather than you know, a can or on
Speaker 1: a road.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, I don't think. Yes, I get that, I
Speaker 2: get that interesting. Okay, well, yeah, I'm open.
Speaker 1: Could be someone who works in tech, not one of
Speaker 1: the one of the you know, cast of characters we're
Speaker 1: seeing out there. But yeah, keep an open mind because
Speaker 1: your chart also shows that even though you seem to
Speaker 1: like put it all out there, like when it comes
Speaker 1: to your true kind of emotional, vulnerable nature, it's actually
Speaker 1: something that is a few layers down that people don't
Speaker 1: really get access to. I mean, enough of it shows
Speaker 1: so that people feel like, oh, they're getting Bethany and
Speaker 1: that's who she is, and you know, it's not like
Speaker 1: you're not that, But there's a whole other layer of
Speaker 1: you that maybe working on being a little more vulnerable
Speaker 1: with people, like not being like, oh yeah, this guy's
Speaker 1: not for me. I'm just gonna like handshake by or
Speaker 1: walk you know, not even look at them or walk
Speaker 1: by and just say hi. Like think about engaging a
Speaker 1: little bit and conversation with your Humor is your best
Speaker 1: friend and worst enemy. When you have a Venus and
Speaker 1: Scorpy out, you know, it's like you can slice through it.
Speaker 1: But then it's like then you never get to really
Speaker 1: know who they are a little bit. So anything I would,
Speaker 1: And that's a thing for Scorpio, Like after June ninth,
Speaker 1: Scorpios really could find themselves in a long distance international
Speaker 1: style relationship. Until then, it's like really about working on
Speaker 1: opening up more to people, being more comfortable sharing Like
Speaker 1: you're I mean, yes, you've been a reality star. You
Speaker 1: share it all. You you know, we love that about you.
Speaker 1: It's a you know, but it's almost like, what, well,
Speaker 1: that's more superficial. I know what you're saying. That's what
Speaker 1: would happen if you were like out of control and
Speaker 1: over out of you know, in someone else's field where
Speaker 1: you couldn't be the best at what they do, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 2: It should be somebody not adjacent to what I do.
Speaker 2: It should be somebody totally different. That's that's one thing
Speaker 2: we one hundred percent agree on. And then today I
Speaker 2: did a take on Megan and Harry with her new
Speaker 2: as Ever website, which was called American Orchard, which is Montecito,
Speaker 2: but she wasn't able to get the intellectual property for that.
Speaker 2: But instead of just saying that, she said she decided
Speaker 2: to do as Ever because it's a more accurate name.
Speaker 2: And the trailer she did for Netflix was extremely glossy
Speaker 2: and beautiful. And then now she's doing social media where
Speaker 2: it's more like raw and real, and so she sort
Speaker 2: of seems like she's reacting to what the public wants
Speaker 2: in what she does. And many people love her and
Speaker 2: them and many people don't like with other people, but
Speaker 2: even more polarizing. And I just wonder if what you
Speaker 2: think they're doing wrong or right? I mean, do you
Speaker 2: think that it's landing or you think they're like struggling
Speaker 2: to just try to find their identity.
Speaker 1: I think it's door number two. He's a virgo, like
Speaker 1: Blake Lively. Virgos are are struggling in general to figure out,
Speaker 1: you know, they're being exposed, they're not. There's suddenly a
Speaker 1: little like, oh what did I do? I don't think
Speaker 1: I want all this attention that I actually corded for
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. But she's a LEO. They
Speaker 1: do love attention. But she is probably not fair. She's
Speaker 1: not Leo's don't do well when they're not liked. They
Speaker 1: want to be liked, yeah, and they will change their
Speaker 1: messaging to be liked. That's one of the most important things.
Speaker 1: And they have their winning smiles and they know how
Speaker 1: to charm everybody, but it's not working anymore. And I
Speaker 1: think I mean, I saw the trailer for the Netflix
Speaker 1: show and it was like, okay, cool, but this is
Speaker 1: so unrelatable, and then the fires happened and it was like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was probably like, oh you just you can't.
Speaker 1: You will lose. So I believe it's a personal branding
Speaker 1: play for sure. Like popularity, Leo's are going through a
Speaker 1: phase where their priority is on keeping their popularity. At
Speaker 1: the same time, it's a it's a humanitarian time for
Speaker 1: them too, and in a year that they should be
Speaker 1: trying to be in touch with the people. So I
Speaker 1: think she's probably having a total identity crisis because there's
Speaker 1: a part of her that is, you know, this wanting
Speaker 1: to be a social change maker, and then the princess
Speaker 1: part of her too, and they're not coming together. Well.
Speaker 2: I think the problem is it was the chia pet
Speaker 2: of this level of fame. And for example, someone was
Speaker 2: talking about them visiting during the fires, going and visiting
Speaker 2: as if they were doing a royal visit, Like they're
Speaker 2: visiting as who meaning, right, what's your identity? You're not
Speaker 2: a royal couple that has the obligation to go visit.
Speaker 2: It seems like what I'm saying is it seems like
Speaker 2: it was like just flip the switch and now you're
Speaker 2: a lifestyle guru. But we didn't get to see the
Speaker 2: trajectory to get you there.
Speaker 1: We don't, we don't. We didn't see the grit to
Speaker 1: get you there.
Speaker 2: And now you're like, you guys are celebrities that have shows,
Speaker 2: but like we didn't even see the train Wreck, Housewives
Speaker 2: or Jersey Shore TV show version of getting to fame
Speaker 2: or even the TikTok. It's like insta fame, insta lifestyle brand,
Speaker 2: insta royal duties without money. Yeah, just add like because
Speaker 2: we know you from there, we're all supposed to accept
Speaker 2: you over here.
Speaker 1: I think that's the totally I think so too. This
Speaker 1: is what you know, to what we were saying about
Speaker 1: Trump's you know, forty five versus forty seven and the
Speaker 1: new climate. Pluto wasn't Capricorn during you know, up until
Speaker 1: this last November. Capricorn rules monarchies and hierarchies. So since
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, society we've been we've been fighting
Speaker 1: against that but also like accepting it, like, oh, we
Speaker 1: want the royals, but look at how the whole royal
Speaker 1: family has fallen apart towards the end of that cycle.
Speaker 1: So now we're in Aquarius, which is about being being
Speaker 1: down with the people, not you know, you even see
Speaker 1: it in fashion. Sure there's people are buying high end bags,
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe wearing it with ath leisure or whatever.
Speaker 2: So you know, luxury has taken a big hit, and
Speaker 2: so a celebrity, Yeah, Leah, Aquarius is the opposite sign
Speaker 2: of Leo.
Speaker 1: So if Pluto and Aquarius, like we were talking about
Speaker 1: at the beginning, kind of shaping this twenty year society,
Speaker 1: its opposite sign of Leo, which is what Megan markle is,
Speaker 1: and actually Martha Stewart too, which is interesting, Halo, and
Speaker 1: they're all having that opposite energy and so like they are,
Speaker 1: whenever there's an opposition, you're gonna have to stretch who
Speaker 1: you are. That's what I was kind of explaining about
Speaker 1: your moon Venus and Mars or opposite their comfort zone.
Speaker 1: So you signed up to stretch in love your soul did.
Speaker 1: So all the leos right now are going through an
Speaker 1: evolutionary cycle if we kind of look at what's happening
Speaker 1: to you, as you know, we're not just here to
Speaker 1: kick back and sit, Margarite as we're here to grow
Speaker 1: as souls. If we look at so she's got some
Speaker 1: growth to do. I mean, she was a really like
Speaker 1: when you look at who she was when she was young,
Speaker 1: she was like this smart, nerdy kind of misfit and
Speaker 1: she kind of, you know, sort of figured out how
Speaker 1: to go and sort of you knows, the celebutant, but
Speaker 1: there's a there's a good like come back Meg, come
Speaker 1: back to that. Nobody should be using the word riviera
Speaker 1: and they're branding yeah uarious. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think she's allowed because of the intellectual property,
Speaker 2: which I'm saying, but it's just saying, yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like synonym for gentry used. Riviera wasn't. Her brand
Speaker 1: was American Riviera Orchard, which was always like kind of
Speaker 1: like really doesn't roll off the tongue, So I'm I'm
Speaker 1: really you know her and all of us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now it's as ever, which is still it's just
Speaker 2: got a little bit of a pretense to it.
Speaker 1: All.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, this was amazing. We touched on me, we
Speaker 2: touched on pop culture, we touched on politics, So this
Speaker 2: is good. I think this is good because it's yeah, awesome, ladies,
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
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