1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: The single best idea A quick one here on a Wednesday, 3 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: as we staggered a Thursday and Friday again into earning 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: season with big amount of earnings next week, and I'll 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: follow on to tech the end of the month. Of course, 6 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: we're looking at the meetings of the World Economic Forum 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: and DAMAS, but we did want to pay attention to 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: what's going on in and equities, bonds, currencies and commodities. 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: Julian Emmanuel stopped by with Evercore I Sight writes the 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: best day to day earning summary on the street, with 11 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: nine percent of SMP market cap reporting so far. Julian 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: Emmanuel on the worry over AI debt. 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: What's interesting now about the setup is that you had 14 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: all this angst around debt financing, around the AI build 15 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: out at the end of last year, credit defaultse markets 16 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 3: getting stressed, certain Hyperscaler's share prices getting stressed to the 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: point where there's enough skepticism around the AI story and 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 3: technology in general that in our mind it's almost sets 19 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 3: up as a contrarian play, and we're very excited by that. 20 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: It was good to have him in just with a 21 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: first look here Julian Emmanuel, really, you know, modeling out 22 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: somewhere towards low double digit earnings growth. Later in the interview, 23 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: he made very clear given a set of stimuli, that's 24 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: the word he used is Latin on surveillance, the stimuli 25 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: that is out there, Julian Emmanuel, he doesn't predict, he 26 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: doesn't forecast, but he's thinking about double digit earnings growth. 27 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: Q two and Q three of two thousand and twenty six. 28 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: An incredible conversation today with Jonathan Maxwell of Sustainable Capital. 29 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: This is over in the United Kingdom, and he's just 30 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: absolutely expert, like write a book called The Edge Expert 31 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 2: about all the stuff that's underground and underwater. He stopped 32 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: us with a discussion that we don't understand of the 33 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: Arctic Ocean. I promise you we will have Jonathan Maxwell 34 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: of Sustainable Development back to dive into our ignorance, my 35 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: ignorance of the Arctic Ocean, the different paths, including the 36 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: romance of the Northwest Passage and all that. Jonathan Maxwell 37 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: on the moment for commodities. 38 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: We've spent the last modern history spence the post a 39 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: Second World War, A lot of it has been about 40 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: competition for resources right, and particularly fossil fuels. What we're 41 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: seeing now is a different arena emerging for what that 42 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: competition is flowering up. And you know I've described it. 43 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: I read a book about this called the Age. I 44 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: think we're at a real age moment in history, right. 45 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: But there are separate edge moments. These are flashpoints. Geopolitical 46 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: flash is where you find energy and capital coming together 47 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: and flashing up. Arctic obviously is the big one. 48 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: And he went on absolutely stunningly competent about what lies 49 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 2: beneath the waters of Greenland and off to the east 50 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: to Iceland and up with Norway and Russia off to 51 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: the east. Just extraordinary. I'm learning so much about my 52 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: ignorance on the Arctic Ocean program. Note Elizabeth Economy, a 53 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: terrific essay in Foreign Affairs this month that will make 54 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: you more competent of understanding this ocean we don't know. 55 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: Jonathan Maxwell there Sustainable Development on podcasts on Spotify. 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