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Speaker 1: First of all, we appreciate you coming on the show.

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Speaker 1: You know, some of the people that embraced us soon

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Speaker 1: you know, going to Seattle playing in a celebrity game.

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Speaker 1: As soon as we got to a league, it was

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Speaker 1: like we was already family. Like the way you talk

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Speaker 1: to us, it made us feel comfortable even though you

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Speaker 1: was talking shit, but that's what we was used to

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Speaker 1: love for us. It wasn't the other way around. But

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you coming and rock with us. You know,

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Speaker 1: long time of coming. Last time we talked to you,

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Speaker 1: it was the first time we ever started.

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Speaker 2: All of it.

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Speaker 1: Definitely, it's a pleasure to get you down here in

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Speaker 1: the Bay Area hometown.

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Speaker 2: So thank you.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just want to tell y'all man, I'm proud

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Speaker 3: of y'all.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: You know you said that I've seen something in you too,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I knew that y'all both

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Speaker 4: was gonna be that one, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So it was embraced me. And then especially when I

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Speaker 4: asked y'all to come to my celebrity.

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Speaker 3: Game, man, and y'all was roogs man, y'all youngsters.

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Speaker 2: Man, But.

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Speaker 4: Y'all was going at that game. But I said, that's good.

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Speaker 4: But I just want to congratulate both y'all. Y'all doing

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Speaker 4: a great job.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: Keep this market going. Man, y'all know what's going on. Man,

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Speaker 4: I've seen great at seeing you. Keep having greatness seeing you.

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Speaker 1: So the last time I shure, we asked you who

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Speaker 1: the first first bush or ass? You said, MJ, do

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Speaker 1: you remember the game that you played in the league,

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Speaker 1: your first game you played Nave where you felt like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I can really get busy on this level.

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Speaker 2: You know. Indeed it was.

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Speaker 3: It was about three years later in my career.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying you guys, Remember I told

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Speaker 4: you I was struggling for the first two years because

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Speaker 4: I had lost myself.

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Speaker 3: I had lost myself. I didn't think I needed to

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 3: I was mediocre to see, I don't wanted to trade me.

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Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden I got back with

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Speaker 4: Tim Gerkerich, you know, girl got back with me and

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Speaker 4: started doing the things with me. And then that one year.

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Speaker 4: That third year when I made the All Star team

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Speaker 4: and U tak and I knew I was here. I

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Speaker 4: knew I could dominate anything in the NBA. And then

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Speaker 4: when I started doing that and I started, you know,

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Speaker 4: understanding the game. I gotta understand the game. I didn't

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Speaker 4: think I didn't understand the game. I thought I was

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Speaker 4: bigger than the game because I got drafted number two

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Speaker 4: and I was that one in college.

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Speaker 3: It ain't like that.

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Speaker 4: And that's when I finally realized that I was the one.

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Speaker 3: I was the one that I can do everything.

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Speaker 2: Yo, yo yo.

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Speaker 5: We live on location the Ya area, twenty twenty five

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Speaker 5: NBA All Star weekend, and we out here with our

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Speaker 5: unk man. We got one of the best ever do it,

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Speaker 5: seventeen years in the league, NBA Champ, Nate Smith, Hall

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Speaker 2: It's all up here. I don't need to see it.

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Speaker 5: Seventy five best ever, the seventy five best over that.

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Speaker 5: I could drop the mic after that, but I ain't

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Speaker 5: gonna do it because he the best defensive.

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Speaker 2: Player of the year as a guard ever.

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Speaker 6: I O g I Uncle Gary, thank you, ladies, jentlemen, sir, yes, sir,

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Speaker 6: I'm a saint.

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Speaker 2: John alumni.

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Speaker 1: I heard that you almost went to Saint John Cold.

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Speaker 5: He say he's an alumni for college university, went straight

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Speaker 2: You committed? That was committee that coach jobs.

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Speaker 5: You know you're not no means you attend the school

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I went to Midnight Man. It's on my visits, James.

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Speaker 2: He performed at the end of the day of mid Night

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Speaker 2: manas he think he went to the school. That'll show

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Speaker 2: you how much he was no school. I can't do.

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Speaker 2: I can't. I can't agree with you.

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Speaker 1: Now, I got I got Saint John girl and all

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Speaker 2: I alumni and I committed to him too.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me get past with this time. Alumni, I

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Speaker 1: said my last night, since I'm Saint John alumni, I

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Speaker 4: You know, d I did commit to Saint John's. I

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Speaker 2: I never that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we was going and.

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Speaker 4: We were in a gym at our high school. Greg

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Speaker 4: A twenty minutes before the press conference, Louis Connosecud called

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Speaker 3: He wanted to take a guy because.

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Speaker 4: He didn't want his recruit to go and saying that

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Speaker 4: And ever since he till the day he passed, he

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Speaker 4: was always saying, I messed up.

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Speaker 3: I messed up a message and it was a good thing.

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Speaker 4: It was a good mess up because you know, it

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Speaker 4: do and it was great. But I did commit to

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Speaker 2: I did not know that. That's crazy. How was it

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Speaker 5: You just did it right off the back like that,

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Speaker 5: like when you said it was twenty minutes before when

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Speaker 2: How did you come back to Oregon State? Q?

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Speaker 3: It was a hard feeling, man.

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Speaker 4: You know, you feel like when somebody let you down

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Speaker 4: and you've been with them and you've been rocking with them.

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Speaker 3: You know, went on a recruiting trip.

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Speaker 4: You done cut off all all of the other schools off,

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Speaker 4: and you talking about you want to be there. And

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Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, you know, my parents look

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Speaker 4: I'm just going off of fame. I'm going off of stuff,

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Speaker 4: did like this, I said, Mom, checked this out. You

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Speaker 4: it anymore. I said, I don't even care what we do.

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Speaker 4: And then we got it back out on there. That

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Speaker 4: I was on the market, I was a a lot

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Speaker 4: they went on from being with me to their second choice.

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Speaker 4: But then they said, forget it, We're gonna bring up

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Speaker 4: and then we made an announcement to do it again.

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Speaker 4: And then this time I went up there and I said, look, man,

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Speaker 4: I don't know where I'm gonna go. I'm gonna let

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Speaker 4: my mom introduce it. And then once my mom introduced it,

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Speaker 4: she pulled out the hat of Oregon State. The coaches

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Speaker 1: That's you was on the front cover of Sports Illustrated

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that's just shot a player trip.

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Speaker 1: You know, the sports get it, you know, but you

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Speaker 1: know to be at Oregon State, you know back then,

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Speaker 1: and you know you have premier colleges, bigger colleges. For

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Speaker 1: that mean for like the school and like recruitment for

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Speaker 1: Oregon State, Because I know Oregon State is not the

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: Indeed that that was crazy because when I looked at

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Speaker 3: Hey, why you picked this school? You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: But it was like this.

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Speaker 4: It was like she said she wanted me to be

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Speaker 4: then she wanted me out of the city. And that

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Speaker 4: you know, they weren't as big, you know. And then

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Speaker 4: when I start being there, and then we started getting ranked,

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: Ramel Robinson was the premier point guard at the time.

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Speaker 4: We decided that we I said that we have to

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Speaker 4: we were. We start playing the Tennessee's, the Memphians. We

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Speaker 4: And then I was having thirty doing that and having

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Speaker 4: ten to eleven steals.

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Speaker 3: I was doing that.

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Speaker 4: I was averaging about eight and nine steals almost really

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Speaker 4: in fact ten.

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Speaker 4: So it was like that. And then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: the school got big. And then when it got big,

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Speaker 4: Sports Illustrated came everybody started coming. I became an All American.

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Speaker 4: Then I was a candidate for Player of the Year,

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Speaker 4: you know, one two year. At that time, they was

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Speaker 4: giving away about four or five six different you know,

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Speaker 4: player of the years, and I won three of them

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Speaker 4: and then Lionel Simmons.

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Speaker 3: Won the rest of them.

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Speaker 4: Remember, and then they came into the Sports Illustrated and

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Speaker 4: then that's when it took off, and the Oregon State

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Speaker 4: making notoriety at Oregon State at a small town called Corvallis.

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Speaker 3: That was it.

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Speaker 1: How many workouts you did when you decided to get drafted.

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Speaker 4: I only did two only went to two only went

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Speaker 4: to two teams.

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Speaker 2: Dinner meetings.

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Speaker 5: How crazy is that for you to have your son

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Speaker 5: Like I see you all the time being with pride

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Speaker 2: But telling me how that feels.

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Speaker 5: How your son do basically exactly what you did, then

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you better athlete.

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Speaker 3: It's a better athlete than men.

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Speaker 5: But just to see him walking your you know what

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Speaker 2: You did and make the league. How much pride you

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Speaker 4: You know, it's about a father now being a father,

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Speaker 3: I always use to criticize him.

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Speaker 4: I criticized him so much that he and his relationship

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Speaker 3: Now what I've done is I become his father. I

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Speaker 4: I support him, I support him on everything he does

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Speaker 3: He can't be me.

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Speaker 4: It's only one Gary Payton. I just named him after me,

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Speaker 4: We hard on him, We hard on him, and we

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Speaker 4: We always think, man, I would have did that I

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Speaker 5: First of all, we gotta salute him from making that

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Speaker 1: We had Sean Kemp on here, and to this day,

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Speaker 1: I have this VCR tape called The rain Man that

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Speaker 2: Got the.

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Speaker 2: TV about that.

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Speaker 1: But I had to show him that I used to

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Speaker 2: In our culture, we definitely want to hoop and we.

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Speaker 1: Want to be good, but we want not only our peers,

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It makes her feel like kind of like superhero, you know,

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Speaker 4: You know what, It's a transition because you know, we

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Speaker 3: It's like here go that duel that you haven't seen.

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Speaker 4: You're only hearing about Scottie Pippin, You're only hearing about

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Speaker 5: It, just in ninety six to win Defensive Player of

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Speaker 5: You know how big it is. How big was UNC's

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Speaker 5: Like so, I want to know where Unk was at

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Speaker 5: in ninety six after you didn't became the first point

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Speaker 2: Player of the year ever exactly, Q.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you I was a fool. I was

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Speaker 4: I went first team a defense.

444
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,440
Speaker 3: I went on the Olympic team. I won, and we

445
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:05,440
Speaker 3: want to go medal.

446
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,879
Speaker 4: I got the first contract of a point guard to

447
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 4: be the highest paid point guard ever. They gave me

448
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,119
Speaker 4: ninety two million dollars for the first time for the

449
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:19,200
Speaker 4: first time ninety two. I won defense a year and

450
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,679
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, all of this started rolling

451
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 4: in one you know what I'm saying. And I did

452
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,640
Speaker 4: this all in one year and did that. I won

453
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 4: almost everything in basketball during that time. You know, I

454
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 4: was on every team, every everything. I was on an

455
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,919
Speaker 4: All Star team all that almost one MVP in the

456
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 4: All Star they gave it to Mitch Richmond. I watched

457
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 4: by one vote on that so my year my life

458
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 4: was on cloud twenty and I made it on Cloud

459
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 4: twenty because I was in the club every night after that.

460
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 2: Then, you know, we went to.

461
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 4: Atlanta and played the Olympics, and we was out every

462
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 4: night in the strip club every night and blowing everybody else.

463
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 4: We was doing that dream teen tours in Atlanta, and

464
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 4: to make that and do that, that was one of

465
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 4: the best things ever. That was robably one of the

466
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 4: greatest years ever in my whole life that I ever had.

467
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,959
Speaker 5: Tell me about that though, because like a lot of people,

468
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 5: you know, we haven't even really had Olympus back in

469
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,439
Speaker 5: the States in a long time, but like to have

470
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 5: the Lytics in Atlanta, what the flow is?

471
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 3: That?

472
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 4: What? It was?

473
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 3: Insane?

474
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 4: And then they're gonna witness it coming up now in

475
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 4: twenty twenty eight, because it's gonna be in in l A, right,

476
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 4: so you see what I'm saying. So it's gonna be

477
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,159
Speaker 4: insane because you got it on the USA soil, you

478
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 4: got everything cracking, and then you put it in cities

479
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 4: that is cracking. Now that you got it in Atlanta,

480
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 4: which is woo woo, and then all of a sudden,

481
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 4: now you got it n LA it's gonna be whoo

482
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 4: woo wooh wooh woo woo.

483
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

484
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 4: So you gonna have fun because we're here, you know

485
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, And it's gonna be you know, it

486
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 4: was just insane to have it and on our own soil.

487
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: We had DC on the show, and d C said,

488
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 1: Dream Team too, it's the best dream Team ever out

489
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:06,959
Speaker 1: of all the Olympic teams.

490
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on?

491
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 4: Absolutely, they were older, come on, man, And then we

492
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 4: took six of the Dream Team ones and put it

493
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 4: on our team. But you guys that understand DC and

494
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 4: them was the ones who went to the qualifying thing

495
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 4: and didn't get on Dream Team too. You remember that,

496
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 4: him and Sean Kemp and all of them. They took

497
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Speaker 4: them off because you remember they started holding on that,

498
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 4: you know all that and acting crazy. Then they put

499
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 4: us on there, you know what I'm saying. And then

500
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 4: they did that. They that remember they had a lot

501
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 4: of beats. They had Glenn Robinson and all of them.

502
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 4: He was getting buckets right, And then they put all

503
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 4: the old g's on there after that and got the

504
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 4: youngsters off there and did it.

505
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Speaker 3: But we had a heck of a team.

506
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 4: You remember, we had a young grand Hill, We had

507
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 4: a young Penny heart Away. You know, we had Reggie Miller,

508
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 4: we had Miss Richard. No, Steve was on the third

509
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 4: and then it was me and it was Logie, Wan Shack,

510
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 4: John Stockton, Karl Malone, David Robinson. We had a We

511
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 4: had a heck of a basketball team, you know what

512
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

513
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 3: And we was killing it.

514
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 5: Tell me this right, like you known as like one

515
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 5: of the dudes that you know, you had good matchup

516
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 5: with MJ. You was one of the best people to garden.

517
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,479
Speaker 5: How were you when you was watching the Last Dance

518
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 5: and you was watching MJ talk about that matchup?

519
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 2: Which ill like, what was your pro point of view?

520
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 2: When you're sitting back and you.

521
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 5: Checking that out and you listening to MJ talk about

522
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 5: the matchup between Q.

523
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 3: It was his production, his production.

524
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 4: I wouldn't even respected MJ if he would have said

525
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 4: anything else. That's his production. He s posted. Giggle and

526
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 4: laugh because I giggled and laugh too, because everybody know

527
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 4: what was good? You know what I'm saying. It wasn't

528
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 4: nothing to me, bagging down. I didn't have no fear

529
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 4: of that we played basketball the same way, you know

530
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. When I switched on him, a lot

531
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 4: of things changed, you know what I'm saying. But we're

532
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 4: not gonna say we would have won or whatever if

533
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 4: I would have guarded him earlier. But he would have

534
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 4: been a good matchup, you know what I'm saying.

535
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 3: And it was.

536
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 4: It was good. And then during that time, you know,

537
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 4: Phil Jackson did a great job because I was doing

538
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 4: a transition. I was doing a lot of things during

539
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 4: them times. And what he did was he put a

540
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 4: bigger guard on me because you know, I just know

541
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 4: I posted up a lot and I was doing very

542
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 4: well in that series during the time, and then I

543
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 4: had to face Scotti, who was a bigger guy where

544
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 4: I couldn't put my back to the basket and do things.

545
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 4: I had to face him up and he was very quick.

546
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 4: So Phil Jackson did a great thing with that. But

547
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 4: I wasn't never worried about that, you know what I'm saying.

548
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 5: M J.

549
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 4: Knew that I can play against him, I can guard him.

550
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 4: What I didn't fear him shipped a little bit.

551
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 5: I'm like, hold on, man, they trying to like they

552
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 5: really trying to go in like we ain't GP, ain't scared.

553
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 2: He locked him, Like.

554
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 4: What's going on?

555
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, we was just we was just one of them niggas.

556
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 4: I think what we did, we're all Q, was we

557
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 4: played not to lose instead of to win, you know

558
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

559
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 3: And that's what happened.

560
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 4: And then when we started to understand that we can

561
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 4: beat them, it was too late. We had already been

562
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 4: got down three to oh we beat him two times

563
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 4: by almost twenty or more, and then when we went

564
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 4: to Chicago, it was just too late, you know what

565
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And then we lost, you know, game one

566
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 4: or two by only four points or something like that,

567
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 4: and then the game six was just we couldn't overcome that.

568
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 3: We just couldn't overcome it.

569
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 2: Hey, this is what I want to know.

570
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 5: When y'all won in Miami, at what point, like, because

571
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 5: you're a OG, you've been there, you've been around the black,

572
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 5: what point did you like see like we can really

573
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,239
Speaker 5: get this done and like we could really win, Like like,

574
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 5: at what point did you see that in the season

575
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 5: with the collection y'all had Q.

576
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 4: That's a great question, man, everybody don't really understand this.

577
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:03,719
Speaker 3: I was a OG on there.

578
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 4: I was the oldest one on the team, so I

579
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 4: was a captain, so I was the one had to

580
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 4: deal with Pat Raley with a lot of things, you know,

581
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 4: with the cussing out and all that old stuff. Shad

582
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 4: got into it one time and then I had to

583
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 4: do it. We were we were I think ten and

584
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 4: nineteen or something like that, and Pat Rowley decided to

585
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 4: take over the basketball team and we went to Dallas

586
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 4: and we got blew out. And then I did like this.

587
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 4: I told Pat, I said, man, you got to get

588
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 4: out the room. I said, I got to take over

589
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 4: this team right now. So when I took over the team,

590
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 4: I let everybody understand that we needed to have d

591
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 4: Wade to be the man. He just had to be

592
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 4: the man, and everybody.

593
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 3: Have to play a role.

594
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 4: Shaq had to step down. I thought he was he

595
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 4: can get the ball on the second tier and to

596
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 4: be our dominant. They and everybody took that role. And

597
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 4: once we took that role, I think we won like

598
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 4: fifteen sixteen games in a row, and then we became

599
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 4: that basketball team. Once we got to the end of

600
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 4: the season and we got into that fourth fourth slot

601
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 4: in the East, I told everybody, we're gonna win it.

602
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 4: I knew we were gonna win it because we were

603
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 4: rolling too much. Everybody was doing what they were supposed to.

604
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 4: We were playing, James Posey was playing it, White Chocolate

605
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 4: was playing the right way.

606
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 3: We were getting it done. We were getting it done.

607
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 3: You know.

608
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 4: Alonzo was back to itself, blocking shot, Shack was dominating it,

609
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: and d Wade was averaging about thirty. So I said,

610
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 4: we're gonna get it done because we're too scrappy. And

611
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 4: once we did that, and we went through the East,

612
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 4: and we rolled through the East pretty easily, and we

613
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 4: got to Dallas, and then Dallas beat us two times,

614
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 4: and I told everybody, I said, when we go home,

615
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 4: we're gonna beat them three times in a row, and

616
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 4: then we just have to worry about beat him in Dallas,

617
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 4: because we didn't beat him in Dallas. And when we

618
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 4: did get home and we beat him three times in

619
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 4: a row, I knew it was over because they couldn't

620
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 4: deal with us anymore because their heart was gone and

621
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 4: we had took everything away from them. And then all

622
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 4: of a sudden, we beat him in game six and

623
00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 4: we won it on their floor.

624
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had a lot of teammates in your career

625
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: over the years. Out of all the teammates that you

626
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: done played with in their prime, if you had to

627
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: put you and four other teammates to make your ultimate five,

628
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: who would beat them? Four other teammates that you would

629
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: choose from all the teammates you had.

630
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: All the prime.

631
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 5: It don't matter when you played with them, whether they

632
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 5: was old or not, when you pick them in the prime.

633
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna say.

634
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 4: Sean Kemp, Uh, Sean Kemp at the four, Call Malone. No,

635
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put Sean at the three. No, I'm gonna

636
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 4: put I'm gonna put Kobe at the two, Sean, Sean

637
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 4: at the three, call Malone at the four, and Shock

638
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 4: at the five.

639
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: That's a yeah, that's it. You had d Wade on

640
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: your team.

641
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 3: Wait, but I couldn't.

642
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 4: I can't put I can't put d Wade over over Kobe.

643
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 4: I can't do that. And then you gotta understand Sean

644
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 4: was a beast man he was on. Sean was a

645
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 4: beast again, Carl Malone was a beast in his crime.

646
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 4: And then you can't. I cannot not do Shock. You

647
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 4: know I can't do that.

648
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: I gotta start bench trade for you start one, you

649
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: gotta bench one, trade one. John Stockton, Jason Kidd, Isaiah Thomas.

650
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: Who do you start? Who do you bench? Who do

651
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: you trade?

652
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 4: Come on, d Yeah, I'm gonna start John Stockton, I'm

653
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 4: aa bench Isaiah and I gotta cut my boy.

654
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 3: I got I got, I gotta trade j Kid, I

655
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 3: got trading.

656
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, be hard.

657
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 3: Yeah.

658
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: When he was in the All Star Game, he was

659
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: in the era where you didn't have to ask a

660
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: player to compete hard. You know, we laughed in the

661
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: locker room, but when we got between them line, it

662
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: was on. You know what I'm saying, we're trying to

663
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: kill joining them on the West Coast so forth on

664
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: to see the NBA trying to come up with all

665
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: these different.

666
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: Schemes and tactics to get them, try.

667
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: To get them to play. What do you think about?

668
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: You know what's going on with the All Star Game

669
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: that we can't get the best pickup game on live

670
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: TV no more how we used to.

671
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 4: D'm I'm just gonna tell you, flat brother, it's about

672
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 4: the money. Bender's because all these guys make too much money.

673
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 3: They make too much money.

674
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 4: You remember when we were coming up we had to

675
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 4: sign six and six year deals players and we could

676
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 4: not opt out. We had to go through the whole thing.

677
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 4: But the main purpose of this right now is we

678
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 4: all weren't friends. We didn't all go out and had

679
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 4: been on a boat together and do all that old

680
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 4: stuff and be on trips together. We hated each other,

681
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 4: you know, the West.

682
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: Hated the East.

683
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 4: We hated West, hated the East. We used to go

684
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 4: at each other. We wasn't friends. We didn't take off

685
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 4: our jerseys and hold them up at the half court

686
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 4: and take bitches with each other and give it to us.

687
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: I didn't care.

688
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 4: Only time I was dealing with anybody on a different

689
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 4: team is when we went to the All Star Game.

690
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: Hey, what's having? What's going on? After this? We ain't

691
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 3: like this no more, you feel what I'm saying.

692
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 4: So we went at each other during the All Star

693
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 4: Game because of the simple fact of what we wanted.

694
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 3: To be the best.

695
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 4: We wanted the West to be the best in the

696
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 4: East because they always were talking about Jordan and them

697
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 4: winning all of this and that. Man, nam Man, I'm

698
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 4: gonna go at your helmet right now so you can

699
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 4: understand who the game is. Because it's just twelve good

700
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 4: ones over here, twelve good ones over there, and we

701
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 4: gonna be the one because after this we're gonna say

702
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 4: who the best. The West gonna be the best. I

703
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 4: don't care about no championship. These twelve get together. If

704
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 4: we play right now, we gonna win the championship. Donna,

705
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 4: bush y'all head gonna tear your ass up. You see

706
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,479
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So that's what it was. What it was,

707
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 4: And we didn't care about all that.

708
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 3: We didn't care.

709
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: We did, wasn't friends, We wasn't on PlayStation on them

710
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 4: headphones something, Oh on your team, shoot that man. We

711
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 4: ain't doing all that. That ain't gonna work for me,

712
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I'll see you when

713
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 4: I see you. And that's it.

714
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this.

715
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: The NBA style has where the ratings then kind of

716
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: went down, like they don't really like the style of

717
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: you starting to see teams shoot fifty to fifty five

718
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: threes a game. You grew up in the era where

719
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen a lot more stuff like you.

720
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: You rarely see the no look past because a three

721
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: on two break, the Wings are running to the three

722
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: point round. They're not running to you even see lives

723
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: like you didn't even see the lot of them, more

724
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: certain stuff that we grew up loving in the game.

725
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: It's kind of almost extinct, you know what I'm saying.

726
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: So what do you think about where the game is

727
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: now and how they're shooting so many shots and they

728
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: are settling for threes and these organizations, I don't want

729
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: to be blaming on the player. These organizations with the

730
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: analytic guys are encouraging them to like, no, don't go

731
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: to the basket and get you a free layup or

732
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: a free dump. Run to the three point line and

733
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: get that shot up. We want that more than what

734
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: we want from that.

735
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 3: See, that's where we're gonna messed up already.

736
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 4: When the organizations bring a guy in with analystics, all

737
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 4: he's doing is doing numbers. He probably has never played

738
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 4: a game ever in his life. So he goes to

739
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 4: a piece of paper and say, yo, know what we

740
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 4: productive right here? If we shoot a three with this

741
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 4: guy whatever instead of getting a bucket. But he doesn't

742
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 4: see if we come down ten times and we miss

743
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 4: ten free throw, ten layer, ten jump shots, and then

744
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 4: we come down and shoot ten jump shots, the score

745
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 4: says the same. But if we let them miss ten

746
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 4: jump shots and we come down here and get buckets

747
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 4: and get ten baskets, how much we got we got

748
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 4: twenty to nothing right now or whatever we're gonna have,

749
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 4: we gonna be up. You see what I'm saying. So

750
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 4: they don't get that. So they don't get none of that.

751
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 4: But our weapon was the big man. We will push

752
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 4: it in there. If he doesn't get double, he's gonna score.

753
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 4: If Shaq doesn't get double, he's gonna score every time.

754
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 4: If our key Malashawan doesn't get double, he's gonna score

755
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 4: every time. If y'all mean don't get double, he's gonna

756
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 4: score every time. But then if we start doubling, what

757
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 4: does it do? Kick it out and we get wide

758
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 4: open jots. If we run into the basket and we

759
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: get in here and we put pressure on them, after

760
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 4: we make a great steal and get a bucket, they're

761
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 4: gonna come down and shoot another three, and then we

762
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 4: gonna come down and get another bucket. Now we're putting

763
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 4: more pressure on them because now we're up six, seven, eight,

764
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 4: nothing and they're not getting anything done. So we don't

765
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 4: think that way and organizations put these guys in there

766
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 4: talking about the analyxis is that you just go out

767
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 4: here and we shoot one hundred threes and they shoot fifty.

768
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 3: We're gonna beat them. No, that's stupid, that's crazy.

769
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: What if you don't what if you don't be hot?

770
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

771
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 4: So let's go get a bucket. Then let's put pressure

772
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 4: on them and do it and don't play defense, and

773
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 4: then get it and attack it. And you're right, they

774
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 4: don't understand it when you and a bonus with ten

775
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 4: minutes with it set five eight minutes ago and it's

776
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 4: only been four minutes in a quarter, ain't touch And

777
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 4: why not go to the basket and punish them and

778
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 4: get him in foul trouble?

779
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do? It's just like the stupid.

780
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 7: Thing is at the top and roll when we pat

781
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 7: a pick and roll and we let the big man

782
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 7: guard to guard and he runs back again for eight

783
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 7: possessions and then you don't call the time out and

784
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 7: change it.

785
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: That's trash to me, that's stupidity. And then we don't

786
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 4: do nothing about it. So that's where it goes.

787
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: You run the best guards I've seen when I first

788
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: got to the league that you couldn't really scream, like

789
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: the big man couldn't come up and really screen you.

790
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: You knew how to get.

791
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: Through it, to see the whole NBA switch everything, no

792
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: matter what the size of it the guy is. How

793
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: annoying is that to you to see that, like, man,

794
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: y'all don't even give an effort of getting over, Like

795
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: you put pressure on yourself when you switching the guard

796
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: on the big man.

797
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: Blood pressure right now, Yeah, trying to.

798
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: Our coach now.

799
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 4: And it's crazy to me because I do my big

800
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 4: man the same way. I'd be like, yo, look here, man,

801
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 4: don't switch. Push that mass under it and let him get

802
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 4: under and let him stay with his man because you.

803
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 3: Can't guard it.

804
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 4: And then I go to film and I say, okay, look,

805
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 4: every time you switch, when is you gonna guard him?

806
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 3: He's going by you. Every time it.

807
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 4: Gets my blood pressure so high, man, I gotta pop

808
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 4: these pills all the time.

809
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 3: Keep this blood pressure down.

810
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 4: Man, Why would you put somebody on there They can't

811
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 4: guard that person. Why why not just get a scheme

812
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 4: where if you don't want him to do it, trap it,

813
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 4: trap it and get it out of his hand. And

814
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 4: then we rotate and get back or get through it,

815
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 4: or you get through. But they don't teach that no more. See,

816
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 4: we don't have basketball practice to teach that. And that's

817
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 4: the problem with me. We teach it.

818
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 2: We taught it.

819
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 4: I get my foot through there. If you hit me,

820
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna fall in. I'm gonna get an offensive foul

821
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 4: on you, or I'm gonna get through it. I'm gonna

822
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 4: break your hip, break your hip. If you screen me,

823
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 4: I'm gonna knock your so hard. Yeah, you tell your

824
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 4: if your ts to he be like, Man, I ain't

825
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 4: sitting the screen on GP.

826
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: No, tell me this og.

827
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 5: This is our Emirates segment right all about where the

828
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,479
Speaker 5: ball could take you And where's the craziest place you've

829
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 5: been because of basketball? Like when with the basketball the

830
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 5: first trip you took internationally was because of basket?

831
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 4: Yes it was, Yes it was. We went to China.

832
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 4: I had never been in China. Now now you know,

833
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 4: I'm everywhere. I'm in small towns that I don't even

834
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: know nothing about. Man in different countries. Man going to

835
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 4: the Philippines, going to places like that, Man, I ain't

836
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 4: never been to these days. You all know we coming

837
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 4: from the streets. We ain't never been in nothing like that.

838
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 4: We just seeing it on TV.

839
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 5: And you do buy and everything. You tell them to

840
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 5: bring your nephews next year.

841
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm bringing y'all like yo, yo, let's bring the

842
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 4: knuckleheads out there.

843
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

844
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: I got I got one question.

845
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: If is it true that you won't let KC retire

846
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: the number twenty jersey because it's in okac And is

847
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: it true that they haven't gave anyone the number of

848
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: twenty Jersey?

849
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 2: It's true, true, It's true.

850
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 4: D is true because I'm just gonna put it like this,

851
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 4: Oklahoma City fans never watched me play a game in

852
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 4: Oklahoma City? Who watched me play all the time, Seattle fans.

853
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 4: Why would I disrespect the Seattle fans by putting my

854
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 4: right going up there, getting in a celebration on a

855
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 4: court and let them get that when I disrespected them.

856
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 3: I'll never do that ever in life. They're there fans.

857
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 4: The fans in Seattle is the ones who supported me,

858
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 4: got me to where I wanted to be. It's nothing

859
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 4: against Oklahoma City, it's nothing against it. I never played

860
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 4: every one day in Oklahoma City, So I'm not doing that.

861
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 4: It's only right for me to respect the people in

862
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 4: Seattle for that, and I won't do it. It is what

863
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 4: it is. You just have to understand it. And that's

864
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 4: just where I'm gonna be.

865
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 5: You the guy basically, damn there if you accolade under

866
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 5: the son and who you know what I'm saying in

867
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 5: the NBA basketball Thatt, how was it for you to

868
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 5: be part of that top seventy five celebration with all

869
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 5: of the greatness that was in there?

870
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: Like, what was that moment for you?

871
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 5: Like?

872
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 4: It was great, Q well for us for me to

873
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 4: be with all of them guys that I looked up

874
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 4: to and seen and did all the things too. I

875
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 4: looked up to them when I was coming up, and

876
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 4: then I have the opportunity to wear one of them

877
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 4: blue coats with them and say.

878
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm looking at doctor J.

879
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: Man.

880
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm looking at Oscar Robertson. Man, I'm looking

881
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 3: at this dude.

882
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 7: Man.

883
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Speaker 3: I don't watch these dudes on TV when I was

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Speaker 3: a shorty minute.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm sitting up here with the same coat on

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Speaker 4: as him, and they talking about in seventy five years

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Speaker 4: of basketball, that means every year they picked one player

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Speaker 4: that was the greatest player that were doing that.

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Speaker 3: Time, and I'm one of them. Seventy five. That's a

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Speaker 3: cold thing to do, man, And they told me I

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Speaker 3: was one of them.

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Speaker 4: Dudes. Man, they picked a year and they said, I'll

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Speaker 4: give it to Gary Payton. Yeah, and that's what it is, man.

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Speaker 4: And it was just an honor that even be a

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Speaker 4: part of that.

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Speaker 1: What was the energy like, like all that greatness and

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Speaker 1: one arena like we.

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Speaker 2: From TV citing. I felt the energy just coming out

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Speaker 2: my TV.

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Speaker 3: It was just there, man, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: And then let me tell you how I even got

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Speaker 4: even more popping or everybody didn't think Jordan was coming.

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Speaker 3: Were sitting in a tunnel.

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Speaker 4: And he coming. Then everything spark up, boom. We all

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Speaker 4: start talking crazy, We started doing everything.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: He come up in there toalk of the ball.

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Speaker 4: Man, I take you right now, I get at you magic.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: He's like, man, you want to play him up right now?

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Speaker 4: And then we just all started laughing and then getting

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Speaker 4: it in. That's an energy. But they took us in

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Speaker 4: the back where it was just all of us and

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Speaker 4: we sat on that that big old podium and took

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Speaker 4: that picture and everybody hollering at each other.

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Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: We all hollered at each other, and we talking about Man,

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Speaker 4: let me take a picture with you. Man, let me

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Speaker 4: get your autograph. Man, let me do this you. It

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Speaker 4: was one of them things.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: It was just ultimately cool.

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Speaker 2: That's what's up. Man.

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Speaker 5: Listen, man, we appreciated og out here all Star weekend

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Speaker 5: in the y area here right nowleheads og Gary Payton Man,

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Speaker 5: we appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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