1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Ron Ananian, it may be something you know you've really 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: got to bring up at the point of purchase, and 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: you really want to address. If there's a spare tire 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: available for that vehicle, I think it's worth having it 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: at pretty much any price, The Car Doctor. I did 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: that with the spare tire on the O eight Silverado 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: three years ago, and I don't miss the storage space 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: in the back. The spare tire secure, and if I 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: ever get a flat tire in the snow, I'll be ready. 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: I'll have a nice dry tire to drag out of 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: the back instead of having the coral or anything the 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: snow Bank. Welcome to the radio home of Ron Andanian 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 15 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 16 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: the phone and call in. The garage doors are open, 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your call at eight 18 00:00:54,200 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: five six and now he honey, Hey, it's time to 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 1: start Randon's along and walcome Ronning any of the card 20 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: Doctor at the helm eight five five five zero nine zero, 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: Good lord, the phones are backed up. This is worse 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: than the traffic at the Lincoln Tunnel. Oh wait, New 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: York would know about that. Let's get on over and 24 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: talk to Mike and dnnella New Jersey and see what's 25 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: going on here at some turbo charger conversation. Michael, Well, okay, 26 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: so I'm going to talk to you again. Thanksgiving as well. 27 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:27,639 Speaker 1: It was good yours, uh tremendous horendous um. I noticed 28 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: a lot more companies are offering turbo motors now, ranging 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: all the way from that smart car with the turbo 30 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: all the way up through dual turbos on the Alfa, Romeo, 31 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: Julietta and Uition. I think Ford Expeditions are a dual 32 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: dual turbo vehicle as well. Yeah, they got a V 33 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: six in that that three point five. Nothing I'll go 34 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: wrong with that, That'll last forever. Go ahead. Well, just 35 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: just as a curious thought here, I know years back 36 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: you had to take special for cautions with turbos. I 37 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: don't know if the that's still the case. But with 38 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: the Ego boost motive, for example, they've been having some 39 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: problems with that um loading up with gas if you 40 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: have it in high gear and you trump on it 41 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: when you're on the highway. I don't know why you 42 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: would do that, but you should downshift. But do you 43 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: have any like, uh, special advice to people who buy turbos, 44 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: as you think they're pretty much fool proof today. I 45 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: think turbos are better today than they were ten, fIF 46 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: twenty years ago. I think a turbo vehicle, though, does 47 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: expose the owner to the liability of increased oil changes. 48 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: Just listen, just my opinion, just based on what I'm seeing. 49 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: All right, we we change oil on more than a 50 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: few turbo cars, and I have noticed that turbo engines 51 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: that oil gets tired faster. It gets tired looking and 52 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: tired feeling. I haven't done a scientific analysis on it 53 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: because I think the time it's gonna take to do that, 54 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: it might as well change the oil. But see to 55 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: the hands, mechanics stuff, or any any manufacturers that make 56 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: a better turbo than others. No, I think uh, I 57 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: think the turbo is only as good as the car 58 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: that it's sitting on. All right, and yeah, and it's 59 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: it's I still think maintenance becomes a very critical thing. 60 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: I think if you're driving anything turbo, it's an oil 61 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: change every five thousand miles. You know, But Mike, it's 62 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: it's if you're planning to keep the car, what's the 63 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: long term plan? Are you leasing the car? You're gonna 64 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: keep the car two and a half three years and 65 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: then throw it away? You know what, change the ls 66 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: per the manufacturer spect chances are you'll get away with it. 67 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want own that car thousand miles. I wouldn't 68 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: want to see what kind of condition it's and I 69 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: definitely wouldn't want that car at two hud thousand miles 70 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: because I you know, I think along the lines that 71 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: today's cars are good for a quarter million miles with 72 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: proper care and maintenance. And yeah, you know what, maybe 73 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: at a hundred and fifty thousand miles you're gonna put 74 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: a transmission in something, and you know, maybe a two 75 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles you'll put a rear axle in a 76 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: in a rear wheel drive vehicle. But I think with 77 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: proper oil, proper care, um, you know, a good oil. 78 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: You know, let's let's talk about Penn's Oil for a minute. 79 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: Penns Oil didn't go through all their research and development 80 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: for their Penns Oil synthetic just because they wanted to 81 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: because they knew that there was a need for it, 82 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: all right. And you know, part of what Pen's Oil 83 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: does from that perspective is they made a cleaner, better 84 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: oil from National get natural gas derivatives and all that 85 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: affects longevity of the vehicle, all right, And that's my point, Um, 86 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: to your point. Do I think they need more maintenance? Yes? 87 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: Do I think that using good quality stuff is key? Yeah? Absolutely. 88 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: I think that's a big part of the puzzle. But 89 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: I don't think people understand that. I think the key 90 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: to maintenance are one of the conversations you have to 91 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: have with people about maintenances before you enter the conversation. 92 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: It's like politics today, right, you know, it's like at 93 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: our Thanksgiving table, we we we set the rules. We're 94 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: not talking sports, politics, religion, um, sex. Uh. You know, 95 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: it was like, what do you want to talk about? 96 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: We can talk about cars. Cars are pretty safe. But 97 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: then I had to put the caveat in there. Um, 98 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: you've got to tell me before we start the conversation. 99 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: Is an a lease car? You own the car, it's 100 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: your relative's car. Do you care about it? You know, 101 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: You've got to give me some parameters because all of 102 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: that affects the marketplace, and and and and how I'm 103 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: going to talk about it. Uh, you know again, if 104 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: it's a lease vehicle, follow whatever the manufacturer says. If 105 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: you notice the manufacturers, you ever notice how the manufacturers 106 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: all talk about you never have to do anything to 107 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: that car for the first thirty miles and then you yeah, 108 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, and and whether they're right or wrong or not. 109 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: And I don't know that they're all right, and I 110 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: don't know that they're all wrong. But you're going to 111 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: the dealers for service and warranty in that first forty 112 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: miles and they're selling services. Well, wait a minute, the 113 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: manufacturer doesn't call for that, but the dealer does. And 114 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: I think in some cases the dealer is right. The 115 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: dealer knows things that the manufacturer may or may not 116 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: want their marketing department to talk about because guess what, 117 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: the manufacturer wants to sell a car, all right, But 118 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: the service to partment is trying to do their job 119 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: and maintain the car. Where I think the service department 120 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: crosses the line is I've seen cars going in fifteen 121 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: thousand mile services and they want to do power steering flushes. 122 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: And then they want to do power steering flushes on 123 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: cars that don't have power steering. It's electric power steering. Um, 124 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: you know, I'm waiting. I'm waiting for somebody to come 125 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: in and show me a report where the where the 126 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: dealership said we had to do an electron flush. Uh, 127 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: you know that'll be the next thing. We'll we'll do 128 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: a battery reset and electron flush to fix the to 129 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: fix the power steering. So but just yeah, thats just 130 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: just my two cents, Mike. I I think I think 131 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: the turbo cars do require a bit more maintenance. I 132 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: think they do require, you know, better grades of parts, 133 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,559 Speaker 1: Penn's oil wicks. I start thinking about the name brand 134 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: parts that you want to use. Bosch. You know, Bosch 135 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: makes a heck of a line of auto parts Bosch 136 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: autoparts dot com. And you know we're doing with the 137 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: the supercharger turbo yet no, not yet, you know, and 138 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: uh that's something well and you know, you talk about 139 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: Volvo in terms of you know, look, they've just developed 140 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: a new supercharger, turbo charger, et cetera. And yet isn't 141 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: it in a couple of years Volvo is gonna stop 142 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: producing a combustion engine and go all electric, and you 143 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: wonder what they're thinking. I haven't looked at Volvo as 144 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: a car line and a couple of years now, simply 145 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: because you know, they they I don't know if they're 146 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: significant enough anymore. Mike. You know they didn't they didn't 147 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: sell half a million cars a couple of years back. 148 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: Less than half a million cars. That's that's nothing. Um. 149 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: That makes Chrysler feel good because I think they're a 150 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: little bit ahead of them. But you know, Volvo is 151 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: a very small piece of the American car market now. 152 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: Uh you know, I'm listen. If Chrysler keeps going the 153 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: way they're going, they're gonna be less of it, less 154 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: of a player in the marketplace. It's always good to 155 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: talk to you, Ron, and have you too, Mike. You 156 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: take good care and uh, you know, be well. Um, yeah, 157 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: it comes back. You know, it comes back to parts, 158 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: all right, It comes back to maintenance. Still need maintenance. Um. 159 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: You know, think of it like this, If every new 160 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: car wasn't ever gonna break, they wouldn't need service departments, 161 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: and this radio show would be off the air. So 162 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: if anybody wants to get me off the air, they're 163 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to come up with a car that never 164 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: breaks down, we won't have anything to talk about. Of course, 165 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: I could probably outlive it. I got another ten fifteen 166 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: years in me a figure. But in any events, So Anthony, 167 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: you had a question, So did you want to talk 168 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: about football just a little bit? And why? What's what's 169 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: is that? Ed wy? Or is that? No? So Anthony 170 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: and Tom are in morning folks, Um, and I agree, 171 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: you know what, I think Eli got a bad deal. 172 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: But but the other side of the coin is they're 173 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: they're they're trying to bet, they're trying to see what 174 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: what part of Geno actually comes home from Oakland tomorrow. Um, 175 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna get a comment here. Yes, boys, that was 176 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: we are the unknown giants fans? Oh is that what 177 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: it is? Uh? Well, I know that we didn't want 178 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: to look at you anymore, well that one or the other. 179 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: So um, listen, at the end of the day, all 180 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: those guys are still making more money than all of us, 181 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: so it doesn't really matter what happens to him. Five 182 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: zero zero zero running end of the car Doctor coming 183 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: back right after this welcome back, we're in the in 184 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: the car doctor rolling along. Let's get over and talk 185 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: to Dave in Ohio, oh six muths Stang and some 186 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: problems with the charging system. Dave, Welcome to the car doctor, sir, 187 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: how can I help Hiron? Hey, Yeah, I've got a 188 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: two thousand and six months Stang four point the V six. 189 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: I bought it and there who's always been garage kept, 190 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, seven thous miles. Try to baby it a 191 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: little bit, but uh, the last year two you know, 192 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: I went through a couple of alternators and in one battery. Um. 193 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: But the main thing is like we don't drive it 194 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: a lot, you know, maybe once a week, and in 195 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: the miles, you know, I'm very high, but we know 196 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: a lot of times the battery is just you know, 197 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: charging not charging. You know, we go out in the car, 198 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, after not driving it for you know, four 199 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: or five days, and the CD player maybe going like crazy. 200 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: Before you know we opened the door. We can tell 201 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: the lights on the dash are a little bit dim. Um. 202 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: You know, we just drove the car maybe a few 203 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: days before and it was fine. And this has happened 204 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: multiple times. The car won't turn over. But but before 205 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: I even put the key in the admission, the CD 206 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: players acting like it's changing CDs and just making all 207 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: kind of honey sounds and so almost like a ghost 208 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: in the car, you know. So, so the reason the 209 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: battery is dead is because there's an electrical draw and 210 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: it sounds like the CD player is getting activated and 211 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: it's hunting around for whatever reason. Has Has anybody tried 212 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: any kind of diagnosis? Um? No, but but the but 213 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: but the alternators to see I've been you know, basically 214 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: three since the cars noon. I don't I did go 215 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: online and I've seen you know, online where they said 216 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: that there is made some computer issues with the two 217 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: thousand and five two think things, wiring issues. I don't 218 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: know if you have had I've I've got to tell you, 219 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: I've seen more wiring issues alternator problems then PCM problems. 220 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: It's in my book it's rare for the PCM to 221 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: cause a charging system issue on this vehicle when you 222 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: compare it to the other numbers. But let's back up 223 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: a second. There is you know, you can check this 224 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: car for fault code. It'll it'll set up P zero 225 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: six two for a low charge rate or a charging 226 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: circuit issue, all right, And I'd be curious to see 227 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: if it's there before we just start assuming it's alternators 228 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: and so forth. There's a couple of things I'd like 229 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: you to do, all right. Number number one, the alternator 230 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: that that you replace. You said you did three in 231 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: the last year. Well I'm three, but I've got another one. 232 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: It's going to be fours the cars then new, but 233 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: two in the last year. Can I can I ask 234 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: you what, Brandon, I don't. I don't care who it is, 235 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: just tell the truth. Who was it? Well, I will 236 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: tell you that they were. They were Amazons, and I 237 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: don't have it. Off the top of my head. Thought, right, 238 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: that's one thing I was gonna say, maybe I should 239 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: go the you know what I mean, the the other route, 240 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: maybe spend the extra nickel, you know what I well, 241 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: and that's that's you know, that's that's part of the problem. 242 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: One of the things I learned. Gosh, it's got to 243 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: be years ago. Um, I've been fixing cars forty three 244 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: years and I'll never forget that day or the year 245 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: that I kind of I went through this. It was 246 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: back in the late nineties and we were still dealing 247 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: with general motors and vacuum controls and digital signals and 248 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: everything was a lab scope test this, and you know 249 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: it was all and it was so difficult repairing cars 250 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: to make that transition into what we have now. When 251 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: I realized that part of the battle we're fighting is 252 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: we spend a lot of time proving the part we 253 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: just bought if it was any good and a lot 254 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: of times it wasn't because it was it was a 255 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: crummy part. And you know it was we were all 256 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: about everybody wanted cheap and the industry kind of grew up. 257 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: Everybody has learned the value of buying a good quality part, 258 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: and you know that's that's that's a huge part of 259 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: this UM. I would I would take a hard look 260 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: at the quality of the part as well as wiring 261 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: on the vehicle. I have seen some wiring issues. But 262 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: for example, the computer controls the field on that alternator 263 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: in the charging system based on demand, and we'll turn 264 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: the alternator on and off. But if memory serves me 265 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: correct OVERM, that alternator charges like any alternator all day long, 266 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: a right, it doesn't rely on the computer. What they're 267 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: doing is they're using the computer below M to vary 268 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: the field, to vary the rate that the alternator charges at. 269 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: Because guess why they're chasing fuel economy. They're they're chasing 270 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: load on the engine. So it's never thrown a code 271 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: or anything. I mean, I try to stay and I've 272 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: never seen like a battery later any But but I 273 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: think you've got I think you've got something else going 274 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: on here, Dave. So here's what I here's what I 275 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: want to do, all right. I want you to charge 276 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: the battery. Use a battery charger, charge the battery, get 277 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: it up to level, all right. Run a good load test, okay, 278 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: put a load test on it, right down the results. 279 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: It passes, it passes, it fails. Put a battery in 280 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: the car. Get a good quality battery. You gotta, you gotta. 281 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: You got an O'rileyota parts by you? Oh yes, yes, 282 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: we got another Riley got all of them, you know, 283 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: run over doing O'reillyoto parts and ask him, Hey, listen, 284 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to diagnose a problem. I want to start 285 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: with good parts. What's a good battery? Get a good battery? 286 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: All right? Um, you know, hopefully you find something with 287 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: powerframe grid technology in it. You've heard me talk about 288 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: it and what powerframe grid technolo sure, and and what 289 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: paraframe grid technology is and you know, if we're gonna 290 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: put a battery in it, let's put the good stuff, 291 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: all right, and then you know, let's let's start there 292 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: and then from there then we'll start to look at 293 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: the rest of it when the battery is disconnected. Do 294 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: you have a volt meter? Yes? And I have done that. 295 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: Like well, I'm sorry the all donators I have checked 296 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: when I did get them. You know, they just not 297 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: about fourteen and a half bowlts. Okay, but do you 298 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: have you have a voltmeter and you can measure it? 299 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: Can you can you do a current test? You know, 300 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: a current draw test? Have you ever done that? Yes? Yes, 301 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: I can. So let's let's do a milliam draw test. 302 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: We want to you know, we want to hook the 303 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: meter up. Um, you know, negative or positive, whichever way 304 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: you want to believe the electrons flow. Tom's yelling at me, 305 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: going it's negative, it's negative. I go, no, it's positive, 306 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: it's positive. Tom's a negative guy. Um, he's a Giants fan. 307 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: So you know, you want to make sure that you know, 308 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: you just hooked up in series and let's do a 309 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: draw test. All right. I can't tell you there's a 310 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: time frame. I can tell you my experiences with Ford 311 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: tells me that typically within fifteen the thirty five minutes, 312 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: most forge will drop under fifty milliams and and and 313 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: if that's what we see, then great. You know what, 314 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: then we don't have a draw now if you want 315 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: to do it long term, all right. I don't know 316 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: what kind of volt you know, d v O M 317 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: digital voltometer you have. If it's got a min max 318 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: function on it, most of the meters with min max 319 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: function won't turn off and they'll run continuously. So you 320 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: could actually leave that car on a draw test overnight 321 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: and leave it in min max mode and when you 322 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: come down the next morning, you'll see it when as 323 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: high as this and as low as that. All right, 324 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying. You know, the the nice 325 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: thing is and and obviously the key as you wait 326 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: until it drops under minimum and then you put it 327 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: on min max because you want to record the maximum 328 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: after that. I'm curious to see if the CD player 329 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: turns on. All right. Now, on the chance that the 330 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: CD player doesn't turn on, all right, you get it, 331 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: You get a you get an acceptable reading your less 332 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: than fifty milliams. All right, then let's figure out how 333 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: did disconnect the CD player, whether it's the radio, the 334 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: CD player is one unit. Let's just disconnect it. It 335 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: is factory. I believe already looked on the I know 336 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: what fees controls. You know, well, I'd rather not pull 337 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: a fuse if I don't have to, because I or 338 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: I want to be sure that nothing else is on 339 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: that fused circuit. I want to eliminate, you know, component 340 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: by component. So if I can, if I can pull 341 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, the connector if I can pull the radio 342 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: out of the dash and leave it disconnected, you don't listen. 343 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: You want to listen to the sound of the engine, 344 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: enjoy driving the car. You don't need the radio. You're married, 345 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: you got a partner, talk to her, you know, it's 346 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: like to have conversation, have a have a romantic even 347 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: going for a ride in the car, and leave it disconnected. 348 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: See if the draw problem goes away, if if the 349 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: drug goes away. It doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad radio, 350 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: CD player, et cetera. It just means whatever is controlling 351 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: that circuit has got an issue. Something is causing that 352 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: to turn on. Okay, and at least it gives you 353 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: a direction, all right, you know, last you've got to 354 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: make sure the alternator is charging correctly. Fourteen vaults or 355 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: fourteen and a half volts is a good start, but 356 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: you've got to figure out a way to measure amperage. 357 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to talk to Santa and get 358 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: it to bring you like a clamp, a clamp on 359 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: camp probe or something so you can actually measure current 360 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: on the arging system to see what the alternator is 361 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: putting out. All right, by the way, while you're at 362 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: O'Reilly Ota Parts, that's not about a good alternator too, 363 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: And see what brands they'd have. Maybe they've got something 364 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: from Boss Bosh autoparts dot com and you can kind 365 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: of get a good alternator in the car as well. 366 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm running in the car doctor, come coming back right 367 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: after this. Don't go away? Welcome back. Why don't they 368 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: need the car doctor rolling along? Let's get over and 369 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: talk to Matton, Columbus, Ohio on ninety four Buick Roadmaster, Matthew. 370 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir, how can I help? Hey? Ron? 371 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: What's going on? Man? You're welcome. That's good, but it's 372 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: the road master. At first though, I want to stress 373 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: how right you were about how much of the pain 374 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: and after this to do not on one of those things. Oh, 375 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a religious event. Um, it really is, 376 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: because you're you're you incorporate God into that tune up 377 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: a lot of times it's very religious, you know, Oh God, 378 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: oh my God, and uh a few other thoughts. But um, yeah, 379 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: that's a that's a tough tune up. It's just it's 380 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: unbelievable for everybody not familiar. This is the three L 381 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: T one motor spark plug wires down underneath the distributor 382 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: cap behind the water pump distributor behind the water pump. 383 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: It's just it's just absolutely insane. Uh, you know, you've 384 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: just you got to live it to two. And I 385 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: can't imagine, you know what, Matt, I've never done that 386 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: service on a corvette. I've always done it on wagons 387 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: and caprices and impalace. I can't imagine what that's like 388 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: to do on a vet. That's got to be really insane, 389 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 1: you know, not not mechanic friendly. So but anyway, what's 390 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: going on? How canna help you today? Well? Now, the 391 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: break out capacity the anti death life is is usually 392 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: on every now it intermittently goes off actually, but it's 393 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: it's typically on. There's no problem starting at no drive 394 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: ability issues, but UM, it's just kind of concerns me. 395 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: So I my first thought was not and maybe it's 396 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: some kind glitch but kind of at the same time. 397 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: So let's let's do this. Do you have the ability 398 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: to scan coach? Can you look at the bc M 399 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: I do, but I nothing came up. Okay, so we 400 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: have no. And I don't mean O b D two. 401 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: I mean you're going in manufacturer specific. You're telling the 402 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: scan tool ninety four Buick Roadmaster and you're looking at 403 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: BCM for faults or PCM for faults. You know, it 404 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: would be nice. Here's a case of an older vehicle 405 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: if we could scan all the modules and and just 406 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: to see if there's anything there. You've done that, there's 407 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: nothing there, correct, Okay, you got a tilt column, just 408 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: carve a tilt wheel, all right. Um, you could try 409 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: to catch it at the moment when it's not you know, 410 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: when the lights not on, and you could just you know, 411 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: not obviously not while you're driving. Um. I would hate 412 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: to see you do that, but you know, when it's 413 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: not on, just take the tilt wheel, pull the lever 414 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: and just you know, up and down, up and down, 415 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: back and forth. Does wiggling the tilt aggre eight the 416 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: anti theft system and cause it to come on? And 417 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: and and if it does, it's likely it's likely this anyway, 418 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: but it's just one way of showing it. It's likely. 419 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: There are two thin wires. When I say thin, they're inorexic, 420 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: I mean they're just it's it's amazing how thin these 421 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: wires are. That they come up to the ignition lock 422 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: cylinder and they provide, they read, they carry the resistance 423 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: value data from the ignition key down to the BCM. 424 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: So we can decide if it's really Matthew with the 425 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: right key trying to start the car and those those 426 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: wires break either at the lock cylinder they fall off 427 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: the solder tab or if somebody is a heavy tilt 428 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: wheel user. You know, if you flex something often enough, 429 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: guess what happens? It breaks and and and and that's 430 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: a possibility. Third thought, do you have a digital volt domemeter? Okay, 431 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: look at look at your ignition key. You see how 432 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: there's a black chip in it? Yeah, and and actually, 433 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: uh ron I did that, And I have three keys altogether, 434 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: two spares, all of them. No, No, that's that's okay, 435 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: and that's fine, But that's not what I was gonna say. 436 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: What I was gonna say was measure the resistance value 437 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: of that key. And I guess you could check all 438 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: the keys. They should all be similar, okay, um, and 439 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, measure the resistance value and well, I guess 440 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: we used to go to radio check. I don't know 441 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: where you get resistors anymore, but go out and get 442 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: a resistor that matches the key. Go down to the 443 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: base of the steering column. You can actually do this 444 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: test two ways. Go down to the base of the 445 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: steering column and find the connector that carries those two 446 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: white wires. It might be part of a sept it 447 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: might be I think they're on their own in ninety four, 448 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: but it might be also part of another connector assembly. 449 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: And just unplug that connector with the key in the 450 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: locks cylinder. Measure the resistance value at the connector at 451 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: the base of the column. It should read within ten 452 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: holmes of whatever it is just at the at the 453 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: chip at the key itself, all right, if it's more 454 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: than ten olms, and typically if it's more than ten Holmes, 455 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be like you knows more, it's gonna be 456 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: way out all right. Um. We usually ended up taking 457 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: the column apart and looking at the lock cylinder and 458 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: finding a problem there. But on the chance that it 459 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: measures within ten olms and everything there is good, and 460 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: why you've got it the meter hooked up and you're 461 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: measuring your resistance value. You're gonna rock the tilt wheel 462 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: back and forth. You're gonna kind of abuse it and 463 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: make it angry, and you know you're still gonna see 464 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: that it's within ten homes. You're gonna go, Okay, the 465 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: lock cylinder is good, the wiring is good. You're gonna 466 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: write a letter to GM and thank them because you've 467 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: got the one car that it actually works on, all right, 468 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: And then you're gonna take that resistor that you bought 469 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: and you're gonna go across the harness on the other side. 470 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: You're with me, so you're gonna, you know, let's say 471 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: it's and it's not gonna be, but let's say it's 472 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: two olms. You're gonna go out and get a two 473 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: ome resist and you're gonna put that two ome resistor 474 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: acros us the harness on the other side, So the 475 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: BCM is always gonna think your key is in the car. Yeah, 476 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: there's actually I know exactly what you mean. There's a 477 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: really good video. On the downside, is anybody could steal 478 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: your ninety four Buick Roadmaster. The good news is, I 479 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: don't think anybody's gonna do it anytime soon. Yeah, you know, um, 480 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: you know the only person that might need it is uh, um, 481 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: well whatever. I'm sure Eli has got enough of money 482 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: to carry him through the rest of the year at least. 483 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: But you know, he's not that desperate yet, although he's 484 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: out of a job, so I don't know. He might 485 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: be looking for a car. Good Buick putty lay in 486 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: the Buick. We're doing Buick commercials instead of Toyota. Um. 487 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 1: But that's you know, that's how I would do it. Now. 488 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: If the car runs okay with that resistor across the 489 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: harness at the base of the column like that, then 490 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: you know there's no more lights than you know. The 491 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: problem is this way, all right, you know you know 492 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: that the column from the column, the connector to the 493 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: top of the column. That's all good. The problem is 494 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: that way towards the bc M all right and then 495 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: you can, you know, treat treat the harness accordingly. But 496 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna find Usually the problems were in 497 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: the column, the wiring, the lock cylinder, you know, something 498 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: along those lines. Once in a while, you found a 499 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: bad BCM. And the only way, the easiest way to 500 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: find that is look up a scan tool. You can 501 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: go into b c M look at anti theft and 502 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: key cereal data and I forget the exact pit. It's 503 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: something along the lines of I can read it, I 504 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: can't read it. And while you're driving along, all of 505 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: a sudden, the light goes on, you'll see the BCM. 506 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: Go wait, I don't see the key anymore. And then 507 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: you know at that point if you've got to bypassed 508 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: with the resistor, that it's from there to there and 509 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: not the other way. If you follow what I'm saying, 510 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: makes sense. So but that's that's how i'd approach it. 511 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: So all right, kiddo, you're very welcome. That you're very welcome. 512 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: Take good care. Zero zero The card is coming back 513 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back the car doctor rolling along. 514 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: Let's go talk to Paul Stanton, Virginia with some thoughts. Paul, 515 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: you've got some thoughts, run on any n at your 516 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: service or how can I help? Yeah, that's run uh 517 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: yeah on on a few subjects. Actually. The first, you know, 518 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: Autonomo's cars and uh, you know, at some point, you know, 519 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: like we all saw saw how like GM came out 520 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: with an air bag back and I think seventy three. 521 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: Now it's law, right, so these are autonomous cars at 522 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: some point. If that becomes law, that's gonna do away 523 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: with cars like Mustangs and Corvette. You know, ion ye, 524 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: who wants you to buy a Mustang and have a 525 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: drive itself? Well? Who wants to buy an electric car 526 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: and listen to it? Do this? You know, where's the 527 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: where's the sound? I mean imagine you know what, You're 528 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: gonna go out and buy a Corvette, a performance electric Corvette, 529 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: and it's gonna do this. Doesn't that sound exciting? Yeah? 530 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: But well I understand with the Tesla, for instance, Uh, 531 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: there is the option of having like a made up 532 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: sound that and and how how well it works, I 533 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't I haven't been in a Tesla, 534 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: but defrom what I understand, it's possibly push a button 535 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: and uh it will put sound effects in there that 536 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: kind of corresponds with but you're dealing with the vehicles. 537 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: I've heard that, but you know, I think where it's 538 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 1: gonna go. Paul, and I don't want to get on 539 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: my political soapbox, but but I think what's gonna happen 540 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: is maybe not in my lifetime, but I think in 541 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: time the country, you know, you're right, autonomous cars will 542 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: all of a sudden become law. It will become this 543 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: is what everybody's got to have. This is what we're doing. 544 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: Because I remember ten years ago I started noticing how 545 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: a lot of young people today, kids seventeen eighteen, they 546 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: don't get their driver's license. They don't want it, and 547 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: it boggles my mind. They don't want to drive, they 548 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: want to be driven. And as they get older, their 549 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: views are going to become the policies that control Congress. 550 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: Let's face it, as you and I age, you know, 551 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: our policies, our views get looked upon more. We've reached 552 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: that point in society where you know, at this level, 553 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: they listen to us more because we're older than the 554 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: eighteen year old kids. But those eighteen year old kids 555 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: are gonna get to be thirty year old kids and 556 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: fourty year old kids and so on, and yeah, at 557 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: some point, autonomous cars are gonna be the way of 558 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: the future, and it's it's gonna become mandated and they're 559 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: gonna do it. In my opinion that we've got to 560 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: have autonomous cars. We need electric autonomous cars to clean 561 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: up the environment, because we've got an environment issue. And 562 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm not here to debate whether we do or don't. 563 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: But that's gonna be the platform on how it's done. 564 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, it's it's gonna be a sad 565 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: state of affairs. We're gonna lose a lot of history 566 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 1: and a lot of culture judging by the way, uh, 567 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: by the way the country is going. I got a 568 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 1: feeling pretty soon I'll be bringing corvettes and effigy because 569 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: they were big polluters back in the sixties. You know, 570 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna look at our history and not 571 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: pay attention to it. So um yeah, if the if 572 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: that same technology could be used as like behavior too, 573 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: the way when when you turn, when you turn the 574 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,479 Speaker 1: key to accessory position, then you get a score for 575 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: how well you handled the driving situations that you were in. 576 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: But it have to be uh letting you know what 577 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: your score is when the keys turned to the accessory position, 578 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: the vehicle has stopped and the engine has turned off. 579 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: And then, you know, because people respond to those kinds 580 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: of things that I'm not. I'm not an electronic game person, 581 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: but a lot of people are, and so they look 582 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: upon that. It's like the ward for driving better. And 583 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, like if they were too, if they would 584 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: be using a cell phone, well that would just knock 585 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: their points down to zero or negative numbers. I don't 586 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: think listen, I don't think people could dry without a 587 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: cell phone anymore. I think that's become an essential part 588 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: of the U, an essential part of the landscape. You 589 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: had some comments about spare tires pull before I let 590 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: you go. Yes, uh, yeah, Well what you were saying 591 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: about spare tires and a lot of vehicle manufacturs now 592 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,239 Speaker 1: they don't include a spare and there are a lot 593 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: of vehicles today, uh not just SUVs and trucks, but 594 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: a lot of other vehicles as well. They're all wheel 595 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: drive and it is essential that they be of all 596 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: the same size. If you have a road hazard situations, 597 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: now you've lost one tire and your spare is either 598 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: non exists or it's a donut. Now you've got to 599 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: buy four tires. So when you buy tires, you a 600 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: good idea to buy five. Even if there's no place 601 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: to put that fifth tire, keep it in the garage 602 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: and when you go to have your tires rotaded, bring 603 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: that tire out, go to the back and get that 604 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: put in the mix. Uh. That way, if you have 605 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: a road has a situation, you still have four tires, right. 606 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: The only problem, the only problem with that is, you know, 607 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: if that tire is unmounted, the cost to mountain dismount 608 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: that other tire, time of rotation, or let's say you 609 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: buy the rim, whether it's whether it's a steel rim 610 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: or aluminum rim. I don't think anybody's gonna want to 611 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: spend and I agree with you. I don't think you're wrong, 612 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: But cost is gonna come into it because people aren't 613 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: gonna want to spend that hundred two hundred three hundred 614 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: four on one rim. That's you know, you know what 615 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: I mean. But it's it would be a lot, it 616 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: would be a lot simpler if we figured out how 617 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: to just give everybody a better spare tire or any 618 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: kind of a spare tire, because no spare in a 619 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: run flat to me, is a recipe for disaster. Um. 620 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: You know, let me ask the question this way. You're 621 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: in Virginia, right, rural part of the country. How many 622 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: how many? How many roads are near you? Just out 623 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: of curiosity? If you're driving a vehicle that's got no 624 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: spare and and and an inflator kit, and you know 625 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: you hit a potholi'er on rough road and you gouge 626 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: the tire, how many roads are you? How many roads 627 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: are around you that you're gonna be walking for a 628 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: good half hour forty minutes an hour? Yeah, it's uh, well, 629 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: I'm I'm five miles from you know, any place that 630 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: you could you know, get a tire uh in in 631 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: two directions and in other directions far more than that, right, Um, 632 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: so yeah, how well, how long it takes you to 633 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: uh to walk five miles? That would take a little 634 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: while at ten o'clock at night. Yeah, you know, all 635 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: of a sudden, all of a sudden, not having a 636 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: spare tire becomes a life and death situation. And that right, 637 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: And that's my problem with all this. You know, in 638 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: the interest of emissions and fuel economy to a degree, 639 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: we're giving up some of the safety instaccurity that an 640 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: Aunoramobill used to afford us. So but um and then 641 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: even Paul, I gotta go. I'm up against the clock. 642 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: I enjoyed talking to you as always. Start take care 643 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: of that Bronco to zero nine zero. The car doctors 644 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: coming back right after this. Welcome back. H don't then 645 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: of the car doctor real quick. Let's go over see 646 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: Mark in Knoxville, Tennessee. Mark, Knoxville, Tennessee. Hello, good sir, 647 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: how are you? What's going on? I've got an eight 648 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: nine f one fifty uh four point nine Leader. It's 649 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: got the twin gas tanks. And today I was I 650 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: was out at the trash your septacle. I have the 651 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: engine running, and gasoline was coming out of the front 652 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: tank around the gas cab, and I was on the 653 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: rear tank, and I slipped it to the front tank 654 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: and the gas stop coming out to the back tank, 655 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: and the gas starts pouring out of the refill it up. 656 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: Probably a bad switching valve, but I can tell you 657 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: how to test it and what's critical for this car. 658 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: Switching switching valves. You know there's a valve there when 659 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: you hit that switch there's a there's a it goes 660 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: this way and then that way, there's a there's a 661 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: gazin there that changes where the fuel comes from and 662 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: where it goes. Um They were very common to fail. 663 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: But one of the one of the tests back in 664 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: the day when there were more of these, was we 665 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: would take the lines off from the tank, you know 666 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: where the where the where comes out of the pump, 667 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: and we would look up a fuel pressure gauge and we, 668 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 1: I think we can do this at the switching valve 669 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, the two lines that feed the 670 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: switching valve. We took a fuel pressure gauge up one 671 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: at a time at the tank or at that switching valve, 672 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: and just cycle the key. Don't crank it, just cycle 673 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: the key just to build a little bit of pressure, 674 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: five six seven pounds of pressure. Then turn the key off. 675 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: It should release pressure, all right. If you want to 676 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: make sure that when you turn whatever it is you're 677 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: using the trigger the pump, when you turn it off, 678 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: the pump doesn't hold pressure. If those pumps hold pressure, 679 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 1: they'll affect how that switching valve works, all right, So 680 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: you've got to look at that. If they both release 681 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: pre sure suspect the switching value. You can stew a 682 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: wiring check with a diagram and kind of go from there. 683 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: Call me back from more in fall money car Doctor 684 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: for mechanics. Car expensive their prices