1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: From the Bloomberg Interactive Broker Studios. This is Bloomberg day 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Break for Thursday, June fifteenth. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: Coming up today, the Fed pauses for the first time 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 2: in fifteen months, but signals more rate hikes ahead. 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Now it's the ECB's turn, with a policy decision coming 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: this morning. 7 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: A busy week of economic data continues. US retail sales 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: are two out. 9 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: And former President Trump holds onto GOP support in the 10 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: wake of his indictments. 11 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: The retired marine charge with putting a Manhattan subway writer 12 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: and a fatal choke hold has been indicted. Plus Texas 13 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 3: has sent a busload of migrants to Los Angeles. I'm 14 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 3: Michael Barr. Oh ahead, I'm John Stansh. 15 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 4: Edward's wards the Mets with a walk off win over 16 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 4: the Yankees, the US Open golfed t He's off today 17 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 4: in Los Angeles. 18 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 5: That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg day Break, the business 19 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 5: news you need to sturn your day in just one 20 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 5: fifteen minute podcast each morning on Apples, Spotify, the Bloomberg 21 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 5: Business app, and everywhere you get your podcasts. 22 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 6: Good morning, I'm Nathan. 23 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: Hager and I'm Amy Morris. Here are the stories we're 24 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: following Today. 25 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: Investors are still digesting yesterday's message from the Federal Reserve. 26 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 2: The Central Bank did pause rate hikes after fifteen months 27 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: of tightening, but the move is being viewed as a 28 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 2: hawkish hold. Fed Shair Jaypal says he expects more hikes 29 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: will be needed. 30 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 7: Today we decided to leave our policy interest rate unchanged. 31 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 7: Nearly all committee participants expect that it will be appropriate 32 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 7: to raise interest rates somewhat further by the end of 33 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 7: the year. 34 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: And jay Pale declined to say whether another hike could 35 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: come as soon as July, but he did emphasize it 36 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 2: will be a live meeting next month. 37 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: Pell faced the challenging task of explaining two contradictory policies, 38 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: deciding to leave rates unchanged while also indicating two more 39 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: increases this year. Apollo Management chief economist Torsten slog says 40 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: Powell did a good job walking that fine line. 41 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 8: They succeeded in what we expected namy delivering a hawkish. 42 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 6: Skip, because they did signal very stronger that more rate 43 00:01:59,240 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 6: hikes are coming. 44 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: Torson's lack at Apollo says traders are now betting on 45 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: two more quarter point increases this year. We also get 46 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: the view from Diane Swank, chief economist at KPMG. 47 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 8: This is a FED that is committed to additional rate hikes. 48 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 8: The tricky part of this pause or skip was messaging it, 49 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 8: and this was a very effective way to message. We're 50 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 8: going to assess what titaning is out there and how 51 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 8: much additional titaning is needed. 52 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: KPMG chief economist Diane Swank also expects the Fed to 53 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: raise rates in July and September. 54 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: Well, the Fed appears to have laid out a plan. 55 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 2: I mean, now we wait to see what the data 56 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: say in the coming month. Today we get the latest 57 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: reading on retail sales. Economists forecast a drop of two 58 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: tenths of one percent in May, and Bloomberg's Vinnie del 59 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: Judice has more. 60 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 9: The prior report showed April retail sales recovered from back 61 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 9: to back declines. Even so, Bloomberg Economics, as Americans are 62 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 9: becoming more discerning with their money. Higher interest rates are 63 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 9: taking a bite out of household finances. Inflation remains an 64 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 9: issue too, and then to sign us, businesses are bracing 65 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 9: for weaker demand. Cardboard bakshipments are falling. Also on today's agenda, 66 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 9: May industrial production, economists anticipate moderation. Vinie del Judeis Bloomberg 67 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 9: day Break, Thank. 68 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 10: You, Vinnie. 69 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: It's also a busy day for economic news overseas. The 70 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: European Central Bank makes an interest rate policy decision this morning. 71 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: Let's go to London and get details from Bloomberg's U 72 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 1: and Parts. Good morning Ewan. 73 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 11: Good morning Amy and Nathan. The ECB looks set to 74 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 11: deliver what could be its penultimate rate hike later today. 75 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 11: Economists overwhelmingly expect the deposit rates shared by the twenty 76 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 11: nations which use the single currency to be lifted by 77 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 11: twenty five basis points to three point five percent. The 78 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 11: focus for investors will be on the ECB's guidance as 79 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 11: to how much further they have to go in their 80 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 11: fight against an inflation rate still three times the bank's targets. 81 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 11: In London, i'm Une Parts, Bloomberg day Break. 82 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 10: Thanks Youwan. 83 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: In Asia, overnight, China's Central Bank was making moves ramping 84 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: up monetary stimulus to help spur the economy. And Bloomberg 85 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: Daybreak Asia anchor Brian Curtis has more from Hong Kong. 86 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 12: The action on new signs of weakness in May the 87 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 12: PBOC cut the interest rate on its one year policy 88 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 12: loans by ten basis points to two point six five percent. 89 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 12: That's likely to prompt the banks to lower their rates 90 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 12: as well. On data, industrial output rose three point five 91 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 12: percent from a year earlier, matching estimates, but down from 92 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 12: five point six percent. Retail sales gained twelve point seven percent, 93 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 12: but that missed an estimate as well, and fixed asset 94 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 12: investments slowing to four percent in the first five months 95 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 12: of the year also weaker than forecast. In Hong Kong 96 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 12: Bran Curtis Bloomberg Daybreak. 97 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: Relations between China and US are also in focus. Secretary 98 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: of State Anthony B. Lincoln departs for China tomorrow as 99 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: plans call for a two day trip aimed at stabilizing 100 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: ties between the two countries. Lincoln's last attempt to visit 101 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: China was derailed by that alleged Chinese spy balloon. 102 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 5: Bank. 103 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: Here in the US, amy presidential politics remaining focus. Former 104 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: President Donald Trump's legal troubles are dominating headlines, but they 105 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: don't seem to be derailing his support among republic Wilkins. 106 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 2: Bloomberg z Ed Baxter has a look at the latest numbers. 107 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 10: The Quinnipiac University poll says, bottom line, he is still 108 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 10: the strong front runner for the nomination. The survey, conducted 109 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 10: mostly after the latest indictment, shows support from fifty three 110 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 10: percent of Republican and GOP leaning voters ron DeSantis with 111 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 10: twenty five percent. Now it should be noted that the 112 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 10: fifty three is down from fifty six percent last month. 113 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 10: Fundraising well, his campaign says since the indictment, the tills 114 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 10: have been fed six point six million dollars in San Francisco. 115 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 10: I'm at Baxter Bloomberg Daybreak, thank you ed. 116 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: As former President Trump continues his campaign, he's accusing the 117 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: Special Counsel of a double standard. Trump points to others 118 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: accused of keeping classified documents who haven't been prosecuted, like 119 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: President Biden and Hillary Clinton, but former resistant Special Watergate 120 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: prosecutor Nick Ackerman says there's really no comparison. 121 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 13: I mean, the people who are making these arguments, they 122 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 13: would be questioned about specific paragraphs in this indictment and 123 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 13: ask them if they're fine with somebody doing that fine, 124 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 13: telling their lawyer to move boxes to hide documents, if 125 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 13: they're fine with telling their lawyer to destroy documents. 126 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: Former assistant US Attorney Nick Ackerman spoke with Joe Matthew 127 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg's Sound and Catch That show weekdays at one 128 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: pm Eastern on Bloomberg Radio or listen on demand wherever 129 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. 130 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: Time now to look at some of the other stories 131 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: making news in New York and around the world with 132 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 133 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: Good Morning, Michael, Good Morning Nathan. A man charge with 134 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: a manslaughter for putting an agitated New York City subway 135 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 3: writer in a fatal chokehold, has been indicted by a 136 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: grand jury. Daniel Penny was charged by Manhattan prosecutors last 137 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: month in the May first death of Jordan Neely, who 138 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: struggled in recent years with homelessness and mental illness. Penny 139 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 3: earlier this week talked about the incident in a video 140 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 3: released by his attorneys. 141 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 7: The three main threats that he repeated over and over 142 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 7: was I'm going to kill you, I'm prepared to go 143 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 7: to jail for life, and I'm willing to die. 144 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: New York City trial attorney Brian Buckmeyer spoke to ABC. 145 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 14: It's the idea of being safe in the subway, the 146 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 14: ideas of mental health and potentially substance abuse in the subway, 147 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 14: and how these two ideas and these these themes kind 148 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 14: of intersect and asking the question where is the line. 149 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: Penny faces up to fifteen years in prison if convicted. 150 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 3: And there's another incident of a subway writer facing charges 151 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: after the death of another man said to be harassing 152 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: other passengers. Twenty year old Jordan Williams is facing manslaughter 153 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: charges and the fatal stabbing on board of Brooklyn bound 154 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: Jay train Tuesday night. The NYPD says a fight began 155 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: aboard the train in Manhattan. Police are reviewing cell phone 156 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: videos of a thirty six year old man who was 157 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: allegedly harassing subway riders as the train traveled to Brooklyn. 158 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 3: A group of migrants who arrived by bus and downtown 159 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: Los Angeles were sent from Texas. La Mayor Karen Bass 160 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 3: called the move a despicable stunt. Republican Governor Greg Abbott 161 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: has also been chartering buses to New York City, Washington, 162 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: d C, Chicago, and Denver. A New Jersey man is 163 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: lucky to be alive after he was struck by lightning, 164 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 3: official say thirty nine year old to Eric Bombgardner a 165 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: Woodbridge Township public works employee was painting lines on a 166 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,559 Speaker 3: middle school soccer field when he was struck. His life 167 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: was saved by Woodbridge police officer Robert R. J. McPartland, 168 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 3: who was assigned to the high school right next door 169 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 3: and arrived within seconds. 170 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 15: Some burnmarks appeared on his hands, realized he didn't have 171 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 15: a pulse and began CPR. He was a parent that 172 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 15: he was struck by lightning. He was still holding one 173 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 15: of the machines. We were able to get that away 174 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 15: from him. When more units arrived. We were able to 175 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 15: get the AD hooked up to him and start breathing 176 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 15: for him. 177 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 3: Officer McPartland says. Bombgardner was rushed to Robert wood Johnson 178 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 3: Medical Center in New Brunswick for treatments twenty four hours 179 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: a day, powered by more than twenty seven hundred journalists 180 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 3: nantilists in over one hundred and twenty countries. I'm Michael Barr. 181 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg Neither. 182 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 10: Thanks Michael. 183 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: Ten half of the Bloomberg Sports Update, brought to you 184 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 2: by Trice State out Eat. 185 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 10: Good morning, John Stanshauer, Good morning Nathan. 186 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 4: The Mets, losers of nine of their last ten games, 187 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 4: did a lot of things wrong at Citi Field. Jeff 188 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 4: McNeil's throwing air allowed the Yankees to take the lead 189 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 4: seventh inning, and later in that inning they ignored Isaiah 190 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 4: Connor pileeff and when he was at third base they 191 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 4: let him steal home. Then a base running blunder by 192 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 4: Brandon Nimmo, and of the chance to retake the lead 193 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 4: in the bottom of the seventh, so the Subway Series 194 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 4: was still tied in the tenth. 195 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 6: The O one swinging a high drive hit Teep right 196 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 6: field hours back to the track at the wall. 197 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 10: It is off the wall. Escobar racing a round third 198 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 10: take you the turn. 199 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 3: The cutoff row from. 200 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 4: Hight center field. 201 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: Is cut in time. 202 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: Escovar slides it safely at third base. 203 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 4: With it came winning RBI trip on WCBS. Mets beat 204 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 4: the Yankees four to three. Mets were without reliever Drew Smith, 205 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 4: they have with a ten game suspension. Smith had been 206 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 4: tossed out a Tuesday's game before he threw a pitch 207 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 4: as umpires found the sticky stuff, just like what happened 208 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 4: to his teammate Max Scherzer and of the Yankees Domingo Herman. 209 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 4: The Oakland A's stunning seven game win streak is over. 210 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 4: They were twelve and fifty before the streak, and the 211 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 4: A's moved closer to Las Vegas with final approval by 212 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 4: the Nevada Legislator and public funding for a new stadium 213 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 4: on the Strip. US Open Golf Te's off today on 214 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 4: of course, it has not hosted any of the previous 215 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty two opens, so most of the 216 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 4: field unfamiliar with the La Country Club. The two betting 217 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 4: favorite for Scottie Scheffler and John Rahm, both with Morning 218 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 4: Tea Times Finney Jim Matt Fitzpatrick plays this afternoon. He'll 219 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 4: be with Dustin Johnson, and just after that a group 220 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 4: that includes Brooks Kepta and Rory McClory, Johns stash Ellend Bloomberg. 221 00:10:55,040 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 16: Sports from coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, 222 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:06,239 Speaker 16: Boston to Washington, DC, nationwide on Syrias Exam the Bloomberg 223 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 16: Business Appen Bloomberg dot Com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning. 224 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 16: I'm Nathan Hager. 225 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 2: The Federal Reserve has hit the pause button on its 226 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: aggressive run of interest rate hikes, keeping policy on hold 227 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: for the first time. Since March of last year, but 228 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: Chairman J. Powell is sending a message to markets the 229 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: central banks fight against inflation is far from over. 230 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:32,239 Speaker 7: Inflation has moderated somewhat since the middle of last year. Nonetheless, 231 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 7: inflation pressures continue to run high, and the process of 232 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 7: getting inflation back down to two percent has a long 233 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 7: way to go. 234 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: That was Chairman Palell at the news conference you heard 235 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: yesterday here on Bloomberg Radio following that decision to keep 236 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: rates on hold and for more. We were joined by 237 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 2: Bloomberg opinion columnist Marcus Ashworth. Marcus, what did you make 238 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: of the messaging from the chairman and the big shift 239 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 2: that we saw on the dot plot. 240 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 17: Well, let's start the last thing first. I don't believe 241 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 17: particularly in the dot plot. It's a bit more of 242 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 17: a horoscope and it changes around as the wind. As 243 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 17: the wind blows. I don't think Pow thinks much of 244 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 17: it either. So I just think the Feller done a 245 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 17: great job in talking out prospective rate cuts for this year. 246 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 17: They've somehow managed to do a pause and make it 247 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 17: incredibly hawkish. I don't really believe that. I don't think 248 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 17: the market on reflection really believes it either. Nonetheless, they've 249 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 17: given themselves what the precious thing they want, which is 250 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 17: the optionality going into the July meeting. You know, they 251 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 17: can pause again or they can hike. Uh and that's 252 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 17: at their sort of blessing. So that's I think all 253 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 17: they want. But they'll see a bit more data. There 254 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 17: are a lot more data. Actually there's probably less data 255 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 17: of importance coming up. But yeah, and get another CPI, 256 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 17: get another payroll number. I think the interesting thing, most 257 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 17: interesting by quite some way, is how power has shifted 258 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 17: on what the effects of wage rises are to inflation. 259 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 17: He's essentially said, from being the bad thing, the baddest 260 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,239 Speaker 17: thing out there, it's now a good thing for the economy, 261 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 17: as in supporting the almost like a flaw for a 262 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 17: soft landing. Now, if we do get what's known as 263 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 17: immaculate disinflation, perhaps there is a soft landing there, and 264 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 17: it means they're less focused on wage rises as being 265 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 17: pushing forward for second round effects of inflation and keeping 266 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 17: inflation high. There it's still a concern for them, but 267 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 17: nowhere near I think as much a prime concern. So 268 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 17: in that sense, I think there's a subtle shift on 269 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 17: what they're looking at they're not going to be so 270 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 17: fixated on backward looking labor data, and that is good news. 271 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 13: Now. 272 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: That is really interesting because there has been so much 273 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: of a focus over the last several months on the 274 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: concern that wage pressures could be what's leading to the 275 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: stickiness that we're seeing in inflation. What do you think 276 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 2: the FED is seeing in the data now that could 277 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: be justifying that shift? 278 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 17: Well, it's almost is the prusality is potentially reversed. And 279 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 17: I don't want to get too technical here, but in essence, 280 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 17: everyone's saying high wage rises leads to future inflation. If 281 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 17: inflation is coming down as it is now quite sharply 282 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 17: and across a range of everything, but use to flies 283 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 17: as one percent, you know, CPI, I know is a 284 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 17: little stick in the month a month, but it's heading downwards, 285 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 17: and the headline certainly is then those drop off of 286 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 17: inflation expectations may in turn actually feedback the other way 287 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 17: and people demanding less of a wage rise, and that 288 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 17: in turn will actually see wage rises full off. So 289 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 17: it's sort of looking at backwards. Perhaps, I think they're 290 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 17: realizing that short term inflation expectations are driven by headline 291 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 17: inflation as much as indeed the second round effects feeding 292 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 17: through of Oh I've missed out and I'm poor I was, 293 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 17: and I demand at least an inflationary rizon. More so, 294 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 17: I think they're hoping that consumer expectations and some sense 295 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 17: work for them rather than work against them. 296 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: In the minute we have left here, Marcus, you've got 297 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: to look forward to the European Central Bank decision. I 298 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: think I saw on the Markets Live survey yesterday. Will 299 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: Madame Legarde be listening to Chairman Powell? What's your answer 300 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: to that. 301 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 17: I think she is very much listening. Whether she'll admit 302 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 17: to it, it's another thing altogether. I do think that 303 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 17: the FED mothership is by skillfully. You may I might 304 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 17: not think it's skillful, but compared to what we have 305 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 17: over here, the Fed's played this pretty well. I think 306 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 17: they've got themselves a pause. They've got themselves the optionality 307 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 17: the next time around. She's not able to do that yet, 308 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 17: I'm hoping against hope that she hints that maybe in 309 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 17: July again, a day after the FED is the FED 310 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 17: pauses for a second time. That enables the easy be 311 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 17: to relax a bit and not be hiking adnauseum every 312 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 17: single meeting because you know, maybe they can go to 313 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 17: once a quarter this time around, it's a quarterly economic review, 314 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 17: and the next one will be September. Maybe they can 315 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 17: skip July. It's probably hoping. It's hope. I think that 316 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 17: certainly in a signal they will intend to hike in July. 317 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 17: Whether they do or not, I'm hopeful they may see 318 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 17: reason that economy in Europe is already in recession. The 319 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 17: start of second quart of Jemmy isn't great. 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