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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us, and bar Garcia and
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Speaker 1: Season eighteen, Episode number seventy nine. Welcome to the latest
Speaker 1: edition of The Break. We'll live from the s WBC
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Speaker 1: only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. Today's a Reset day.
Speaker 1: We got tons of tons of topics that we're going
Speaker 1: to hit today, and I think Brian has a game
Speaker 1: for us which would be fun. If you heard us
Speaker 1: last week, you know these games can get a little interesting.
Speaker 1: So we'll see what creative when you do this stuff.
Speaker 1: We'll see when he has lined up for us. Now
Speaker 1: that he's a big radio guy, got to test all
Speaker 1: I gotta test all my stuff out on you guys.
Speaker 1: Let's start first, though, I want to start talking about
Speaker 1: ob Ju exactly. We'll start talking about OBJ. Yesterday Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy was asked about it. Jerry Jones also asked this
Speaker 1: morning if anything that happened over the last several days
Speaker 1: with regards to uh OBJ and the thing that happened
Speaker 1: at the airport, which I don't really know the details. Obviously,
Speaker 1: he was escorted from a plane but was not arrest
Speaker 1: it was not cited. Um, but if any of that
Speaker 1: had anything, it didn't affect in any way their desire
Speaker 1: to have him on the team. Both were pretty clear
Speaker 1: it did not. My question for you guys, should it?
Speaker 1: I mean, this is what he is. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is he's he's a show. I mean that's that's part
Speaker 1: of it. That's part I mean, now that doesn't and
Speaker 1: all the time, but it wouldn't happen probably to just
Speaker 1: some regular guy. I mean, like he is who he
Speaker 1: is and this is this is part of the show.
Speaker 1: I mean he does extraordinary things. Um, we've all been
Speaker 1: at the airport before in situations like that where you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta look at both sides of it.
Speaker 1: I've seen over zealous people on the you know, the
Speaker 1: flight attendant side. I've seen it on the other. So
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really know. I don't know. But
Speaker 1: like I always say, you know, if if you don't
Speaker 1: care about the good stuff, you shouldn't care about the
Speaker 1: negative stuff. And if this is considered negative. But but
Speaker 1: I don't think I mean Jerry, I mean, this team
Speaker 1: isn't one to talk. Yeah, I mean they signed guys
Speaker 1: worse than that they've done that, you know, yeah, no doubt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know me personally, Uh, you don't know. He might
Speaker 1: be a guy that doesn't like to fly, and so
Speaker 1: you're self medicating yourself to kind of and then you
Speaker 1: guess it wrong, and you guess it wrong, and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh again, guess it wrong. You mean, like the timing,
Speaker 1: timing of it, Like you took something and you're like
Speaker 1: or you're like, you didn't take it soon enough to
Speaker 1: allow it to take its course. And now all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, I know personally, I was on a flight
Speaker 1: to Saudi Arabia in March and I was actually sleeping
Speaker 1: and they buckled my seat belt for me. That I
Speaker 1: was on I was completely laid out, and I had
Speaker 1: a blanket and pillow and and and and I was
Speaker 1: completely lad and they buckled my seat belt for me
Speaker 1: while I was asleep, you know. So to me you
Speaker 1: talked about with no, I was fine because that was
Speaker 1: you know, that was the thing about it is. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, they're trying to keep you from moving around,
Speaker 1: and you know, and they and they never know obviously
Speaker 1: didn't want to wake you up, allowed you to keep
Speaker 1: sleeping exactly. So that's the thing about it is that
Speaker 1: to me, you know, there's I think just think there's
Speaker 1: a couple of things. Again, we don't know if he's
Speaker 1: a guy that hates to fly. I'm one of those
Speaker 1: guys too. You know. I have to take dramamine when
Speaker 1: I get on a plane, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: it works or not, but psychologically it makes me. It
Speaker 1: calms me down from being anxious. And so, you know,
Speaker 1: and I think to Nick's point, he is he's a
Speaker 1: guy that kind of is always into something. You get
Speaker 1: people these I've talked to several of you know, uh,
Speaker 1: flight attendants toward just whatever you want to. You know,
Speaker 1: they're you know, they're in a difficult job. They're shorthanded.
Speaker 1: You know that people are back to flying, they're not
Speaker 1: being able to people are not hiring enough. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to make it that, but they're under a lot
Speaker 1: of stress up there too, and sometimes you get to
Speaker 1: the point where any little thing will completely set somebody
Speaker 1: off in that we're in that mode right now in
Speaker 1: this world where those things happen, where you know it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: which is calmed? You know, No, it's just like immediately
Speaker 1: there's like a fight and it gets on someone's video.
Speaker 1: You know, somebody is yelling at somebody, and somebody is
Speaker 1: asking somebody to get off a plane, and somebody is
Speaker 1: yelling back at that person. So we don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the thing about it is. And Nick's right, this
Speaker 1: team has signed far worse character guys and and and
Speaker 1: gone forward with it. So I don't see this as
Speaker 1: a problem at all. Yeah, nothing that has come out
Speaker 1: indicates to me that it was a big issue. You know,
Speaker 1: there's no TMZ putting out a camera a cell phone
Speaker 1: video footage that someone shot and him yelling at somebody.
Speaker 1: You know, there was no Yeah, it wasn't really an altercation.
Speaker 1: And it's to the point where do you warn someone
Speaker 1: that's kind of going in and out of sleep and
Speaker 1: not being fully responsive to go on and however, long
Speaker 1: fly that was no that's you know, for medical reasons.
Speaker 1: I think you as an airline and as a flight attendant,
Speaker 1: you take actions to that because you don't know what
Speaker 1: could happen in flight. So the whole thing, I don't
Speaker 1: have an issue with it because I haven't seen anything
Speaker 1: completely wrong with it. Unless something else comes out, then
Speaker 1: maybe I know that. When I first saw the headline,
Speaker 1: I don't forgot what I initially saw it, but I
Speaker 1: started reading it didn't it was still the end where
Speaker 1: you started seeing, oh well he was kind of going
Speaker 1: in and out of sleep and stuff. But as I
Speaker 1: saw a Dell Beckham Junior kicked off a plane or what,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, God know what, here we go. But no,
Speaker 1: I think McCarthy and Jerry, I'd right to keep going
Speaker 1: on course, excited to see when is it that he
Speaker 1: comes in for the visitors and next week. That was
Speaker 1: actually gonna be the next question the timeline. Jerry said
Speaker 1: this morning on the radio that he was that he
Speaker 1: expects he's already had a conversation with him over the phone.
Speaker 1: He expects him to be have an in person meeting
Speaker 1: on next Monday. He's meeting with the giants this Thursday,
Speaker 1: maybe Thursday Friday. So that's what the timeline looks like
Speaker 1: as far as we know at this point. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: most important thing is the physical, the knee. That's the
Speaker 1: most important thing that's going to determine whether you want
Speaker 1: to go forward with this or is it something you
Speaker 1: can deal with. And now I think it's also going
Speaker 1: to determine how much of the compensation. You know. I
Speaker 1: think it's like, listen, if we if you're interested in
Speaker 1: a long term deal, you're n looks fine, we could
Speaker 1: do this. Your knee, you know, looks like it's a
Speaker 1: little bulky right now, balky, you know. I think that
Speaker 1: to you know, maybe you're in a situation where you know,
Speaker 1: we can't do this or we can't we can't pay you,
Speaker 1: you know, these many millions of dollars, we just can't
Speaker 1: do it. And so I that that's the most It's
Speaker 1: not the visit. I think the visit part of it
Speaker 1: is just really everybody knows who this guy is. I
Speaker 1: think he has an idea who everybody is on this
Speaker 1: side of the fence, and I think it's just now
Speaker 1: up to doctor Cooper and them to determine if they
Speaker 1: if you can work with them long term and I
Speaker 1: was told that this was this. If this happens and
Speaker 1: they start, they're negotiating, and whenever that does happen, that
Speaker 1: they're basically negotiating two contracts at once because they are
Speaker 1: they are looking at CD's deal as well, because they
Speaker 1: know this will trigger that, and so they're having to
Speaker 1: play all the sides of this. Of course, you already
Speaker 1: signed gallup and you have that, but CD is this
Speaker 1: will be his third year completed, which means he can
Speaker 1: a new deal after this year nine. They don't have
Speaker 1: to do anything with that, but I think they are.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna they're looking into that. So that's
Speaker 1: the tricky part here. I mean, the Giants don't have
Speaker 1: that issue. I mean, they don't have a guy that
Speaker 1: they're worried about upsetting and in making the number one.
Speaker 1: He would be probably the number one. Yeah, I believe
Speaker 1: that Giants do have some issues with their cap. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean that that's that that that yeah, No, No,
Speaker 1: it's as far as the players go. No, I mean
Speaker 1: where they are in the cap with your team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why it's interesting to me that the Giants would
Speaker 1: get involved. I mean, they Giants don't have anybody Let's
Speaker 1: be honest. We we've talked. They need help there clearly.
Speaker 1: And the thing about it is, though I think that
Speaker 1: you know, the last time I checked, they were pretty
Speaker 1: close to pretty tight to the cap. So how they
Speaker 1: make a deal will have to be pretty creative to
Speaker 1: how you know, to get Beckham on. But you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see that. You know, nobody, nobody has had the
Speaker 1: opportunity yet to look at that knee, and you know,
Speaker 1: and we'll see once that doctor Cooper and those guys
Speaker 1: have a chance to look at it, then you'll know
Speaker 1: exactly the direction this team's going. You feel like this
Speaker 1: is kind of getting drawn out, like like by him,
Speaker 1: like like maybe he doesn't feel like he is one
Speaker 1: hundred percent just yet. I think he was driving the
Speaker 1: timetable on this all along, because ultimately, there were teams
Speaker 1: weeks ago, including the Cowboys, that have been saying they're
Speaker 1: very interested and obviously, as Brian's been talking about, the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: training staff is going to need to look at that.
Speaker 1: They never anything happens. It's so to me, it's all
Speaker 1: about his timetable. Yeah, you never. You know, It's funny.
Speaker 1: Jay Glazer came out several weeks ago and was like,
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham is ready to go, and then you had
Speaker 1: the report basically two days later that Ian Rappaport was
Speaker 1: saying that, you know, no, he's you know, he's gonna wait.
Speaker 1: He's got you know, he's got an idea of how
Speaker 1: he wants to this to proceed. And so yeah, it
Speaker 1: went from being like, Okay, let's go in November to okay,
Speaker 1: let's go in December. You know that. That's how you know, Oh, no,
Speaker 1: he's ready to go. He's been fully cleared. And it's
Speaker 1: been I think three weeks since Jay Glazer said he's
Speaker 1: been fully cleared. You know, nobody, nobody, I could say
Speaker 1: nobody knows he's fully cleared or not until you look
Speaker 1: at that knee. That's the that's that's the that's the
Speaker 1: biggest question right there, because if he if he if
Speaker 1: he doesn't pass it, you know, the Cowboys are going
Speaker 1: to say, now we don't feel like that this knee
Speaker 1: stable enough for him to play this year. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say the what's also interesting, I mean we're about
Speaker 1: to enter the month of December. You got about six
Speaker 1: games left plus however many from the playoffs. So let's
Speaker 1: say next visit. Let's just say, best case scenario, everything
Speaker 1: goes well, somehow the Cowboys managed to negotiate a deal
Speaker 1: that puts him here in Dallas. How much time would
Speaker 1: a guy like him knee is ready to go feed
Speaker 1: our good and all that. Would you like, how much
Speaker 1: time would you have to give him to kind of
Speaker 1: get back into things, you know, he needs to learn
Speaker 1: the team, the offense and all that. Would it be
Speaker 1: about maybe two weeks? So I'm trying to get maybe
Speaker 1: a timeline of like, Okay, when would if it happens,
Speaker 1: would we be seeing him? When did he sign with
Speaker 1: the Rams last year? Do you remember trade? I means
Speaker 1: literally am September Octover. I don't remember, but it was
Speaker 1: kind on light with three or four games, because I
Speaker 1: do remember it was it didn't seem like he really
Speaker 1: got acclimated and really being they started really using him
Speaker 1: in that offense as much until the playoffs. That's when
Speaker 1: it seemed like And maybe it was because I would
Speaker 1: desk when I was really watching their team more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but in the playoffs he certainly made a difference. I
Speaker 1: thought this, this to me seems very much if you
Speaker 1: get this thing done, that maybe Philadelphia would be the
Speaker 1: game you would think about him playing, and then from
Speaker 1: that point on you just gotta go. I mean as
Speaker 1: many you'll have what two more games after that in
Speaker 1: the regular season, right, you'll have Philadelphia, you'll have the Titans,
Speaker 1: the Commanders, and then near into the playoffs. So this
Speaker 1: you're this is really you're I think you're buying this one.
Speaker 1: And you know, to potentially beat the you know, I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna have to be of course you're have
Speaker 1: to beat the Eagles. I think you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: win that Titans game too. Yeah, and and so you know,
Speaker 1: all hands on deck for that one. We'll see what
Speaker 1: the Commanders situation is. They might be playing for a
Speaker 1: spot too, So you know, therese are three games, right
Speaker 1: there were playoff you know. The thing with the Titans though,
Speaker 1: they're they're they're moving away with the with that AFC South,
Speaker 1: So maybe it might be a situation we could kind
Speaker 1: of catch him in a bad time for them. But
Speaker 1: I just kind of feel like that you're buying him
Speaker 1: for potentially three games, and any playoff game that you play, well,
Speaker 1: we've seen VET step in and give you something like immediately,
Speaker 1: even if it's not the six catches four hundred yard
Speaker 1: type game making just big a big catch or two
Speaker 1: big catches in a game. We've seen Sean Jackson do
Speaker 1: that kind of thing where he comes on, signs with
Speaker 1: a team, and then the very next game he goes
Speaker 1: for sixty yards. Like those kind of receivers I think
Speaker 1: could do that. All right, let's let's look at this
Speaker 1: real quick. He got traded. He got traded, he played
Speaker 1: six games with Cleveland, or eight games with Cleveland. He
Speaker 1: got traded. He goes to play with the Rams. The
Speaker 1: first game he is three targets, two catches, eighteen yards.
Speaker 1: The next game at Green Bay, ten targets, five catches,
Speaker 1: eighty one yards and a touchdown. And then the next
Speaker 1: two games touchdown and a touchdown. We're moving. I mean
Speaker 1: his targets when he got there's targets were three ten, five, seven,
Speaker 1: three eight seven five veterans. Guy, No, the tricky part
Speaker 1: is and you're gonna deal with it. So it's not
Speaker 1: like they're not gonna do it, but it is. You know,
Speaker 1: for the back end, it's not the easiest thing in
Speaker 1: the world to put a fourth receiver, third fourth receiver
Speaker 1: that doesn't play special teams on the field and figure
Speaker 1: out how he's gonna go into that mean who who
Speaker 1: comes off? I mean, because I mean you take Tilbert
Speaker 1: off and he plays special teams right, So it's just
Speaker 1: you gotta have to figure something out there right now.
Speaker 1: I'll deal with right now, right now, when he if
Speaker 1: he comes onto this team, where's he sit on your
Speaker 1: depth chart? He's my fourth receiver, probably third receiver, I
Speaker 1: mean until he can get going in to probably be
Speaker 1: the third receiver. I would take him and put him
Speaker 1: like in Noah Brown's spot, and Noah Brown's now a
Speaker 1: special team's player the here on out. You know, Ah Brown,
Speaker 1: go be personal protector, or go be cover, or go
Speaker 1: do all that stuff like that. Me, this is the thing.
Speaker 1: This is why I want Odell Beckham here for fourth
Speaker 1: and three against the Green Bay Packers. That's why I
Speaker 1: want him here. If I don't care if you target
Speaker 1: him three times, I just want him here for that
Speaker 1: one play. I want him here for that two point
Speaker 1: play that's gonna beat somebody. I want him here because
Speaker 1: I know that son of a gun will go get
Speaker 1: the football and he's a bad ball catcher, is yeah,
Speaker 1: that fourth and three play that haunts me to this
Speaker 1: day in that Green Bay game that they didn't have
Speaker 1: a better play and a better option. You know, the
Speaker 1: option was to try and drag Michael Gallop underneath and
Speaker 1: he was short of the sticks. You know, there was
Speaker 1: no separation there. There was. I mean, give Green Bay
Speaker 1: some credit, but I want him for those one or
Speaker 1: two catches a game where all of a sudden, it's
Speaker 1: first downs. It's first that's another first down. You know
Speaker 1: he's catching the ball, he's maybe down the field, he's
Speaker 1: making a big play, maybe he the route running stuff
Speaker 1: like that. The separation him catching it, getting up the field,
Speaker 1: That's what I want him for. And you know what
Speaker 1: would be a better I know you threw those numbers
Speaker 1: out there. That's good. Those are good numbers. I wonder
Speaker 1: what his first four or five, six whatever games after
Speaker 1: he came back from his first Aco looked like, how
Speaker 1: was he playing there? Because I think that's probably what
Speaker 1: we ought to factor in, is that he's coming off
Speaker 1: this injury. How long will it take him to get
Speaker 1: up to speed to where he's being Odell Beckham that
Speaker 1: we've all seen throughout his career. Because I have no
Speaker 1: doubt if he gets to that old Dallas can definitely
Speaker 1: use him. A lot of teams around the league could
Speaker 1: use him. Question is how long it's gonna take to
Speaker 1: get there? All right, we're gonna take our first break.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we have a few more topics
Speaker 1: we're gonna hit. We got a game, got a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff to do here in the last I guess
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Speaker 1: is the second segment of The Break live from the
Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: Damon Clark. This last game he had seven tackles. He
Speaker 1: had he was second behind Layton vander Est and tackles
Speaker 1: for the game. He had one forced fumble. Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: When asked about him yesterday, he says he's just been
Speaker 1: a stud. The way he attacked it, he's got very brightly,
Speaker 1: He's a very bright light, that young man. I think
Speaker 1: we're seeing the beginning of an outstanding career. My question
Speaker 1: for you guys is, based on what you guys have
Speaker 1: seen from him, do you think he's looking more comfortable
Speaker 1: and comfortable enough where whenever Anthony Barr is healthy, he
Speaker 1: keeps the job. Maybe I've totally forgot about Anthony Barr.
Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe, so I don't think maybe you forget
Speaker 1: about him that fast. Well, I mean, yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 1: I mean, but I mean he has Anthony barrs has
Speaker 1: been okay. You know, he hasn't been a four time
Speaker 1: pro bowler guy. I mean, he's just been It's been okay.
Speaker 1: There's been some good games, there's been some okay games,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of what Clark has done. But Clark's
Speaker 1: the guy that is his like fourth game. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're in a situation right now where Clark is your
Speaker 1: future and Anthony Barr's not the problem is you deal
Speaker 1: with coaches that like to play with what they know
Speaker 1: and they understand, you know, George edwards linebackers. Coach knows
Speaker 1: Anthony Barr, he knows what Anthony Barr can do. I
Speaker 1: think Anthony Barr has been kind of a fifty fifty player,
Speaker 1: you know, but I think there's been some times too
Speaker 1: where Clark has been as well. And and the difference
Speaker 1: really is, there's one guy that has a lot of
Speaker 1: experiences and one guy that doesn't have very much experience.
Speaker 1: There's one guy it's very very capable of of of
Speaker 1: you know, like coach was talking about being a rising player.
Speaker 1: But you're in a situation too with these coaches tend
Speaker 1: to when the games get tough and they want experience
Speaker 1: out there, especially, they don't want mistakes. And not that
Speaker 1: Clark makes a bunch of mistakes, but they will. There's
Speaker 1: a reason why coaches do this. And Tyler Smith has
Speaker 1: been playing we think well at left tackle. Right, they're
Speaker 1: about to put Tyrant Smith back at left tackle and
Speaker 1: move move a guy that's been playing pretty well. That
Speaker 1: that's coaches. That's what coaches do. They they want the
Speaker 1: guy that they know that when when when things start
Speaker 1: getting a little messy, that they'll be there and they'll
Speaker 1: fight their way through it. And you know, the inexperienced
Speaker 1: guy will he can learn, but not this year. He's
Speaker 1: not going to learn this year. You know. That's where
Speaker 1: I think they're at with with Clark and also with Barr.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I think he's progressive lead getting
Speaker 1: better and better each time, and you can see it naturally,
Speaker 1: you're going to get more and more comfortable. The only
Speaker 1: time that I feel that I would maybe give him
Speaker 1: just let him be out there full time, or vice versa,
Speaker 1: like maybe take him out and put bar in is
Speaker 1: in a scenario where who are the starters around him.
Speaker 1: Let's say someone gets hurt or whatever. In that instance,
Speaker 1: I would keep the veteran guy in versus having the
Speaker 1: moan just being out there. So to me personally, right now,
Speaker 1: the way I see it, his amount of time playing
Speaker 1: on the field depends on whoever else is around him
Speaker 1: as far as the experience goes. Yeah, they need to
Speaker 1: figure it out because that player allows Parsons to do
Speaker 1: other things. So you don't want somebody that's slacking there.
Speaker 1: You want somebody that will make seven tackles. We'll play
Speaker 1: in pass coverage and things like that, so that allows
Speaker 1: Parsons to do other things. So they don't have to
Speaker 1: play him as an off ball linebacker. I talked to
Speaker 1: Stephen yesterday. You know you always say, well they stole
Speaker 1: one there in the draft, Stephen Jones. Stephen Jones, and
Speaker 1: he said in the when they watched the games, you know,
Speaker 1: in the owner's box or whatever, and demon makes a play,
Speaker 1: he said that he always has this big smile and
Speaker 1: Jerry kind of gives him a little bit of a nudge,
Speaker 1: like there's a their guy, you know, because somebody and
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Stephen or Jerry, who
Speaker 1: don't know who want to scout, maybe that was like
Speaker 1: he can play, and he will be healthy at some
Speaker 1: point sooner than you think, and he's gonna really help us.
Speaker 1: This makes sense, and so they're like, yes, let's do it.
Speaker 1: So every time he makes a play, they kind of
Speaker 1: like nudge at each other like, well, this is making
Speaker 1: a play. You know. Yeah. This was the situation because
Speaker 1: they're the ones at the combine that found his injury
Speaker 1: to begin with, and so they're like, listen, you've got
Speaker 1: this problem. So they had they had a pretty good
Speaker 1: idea of what It's kind of like the same thing
Speaker 1: with Jalen Smith. You know, they had the idea, and
Speaker 1: doctor Cooper did the surgery on al Smith, so they
Speaker 1: had a good idea of how quickly a guy could
Speaker 1: recover and be ready to play. Yeah, that that. I
Speaker 1: look at him, and I look at this last game,
Speaker 1: and in my opinion, it's probably the best game he's played. Here.
Speaker 1: A cowboy played this, which makes That's the reason why
Speaker 1: I'm most excited is because it seems like over the
Speaker 1: weeks he's getting better and better and better. He's feeling
Speaker 1: more comfortable, right, and if you get to a point
Speaker 1: where right now, I think last week he did a
Speaker 1: lot of the basic things really well. I'm waiting for
Speaker 1: that moment where he starts to make those big splash
Speaker 1: plays because I think that's coming as well. I think
Speaker 1: it's once he feels very comfortable, then his athlete then
Speaker 1: his athleticism. No yeah, no, no, no, that's just that's
Speaker 1: exactly what I'm saying. But I think that's when his
Speaker 1: athleticism takes over, and that's when he will get loose
Speaker 1: and he will make plays that some people just can't make.
Speaker 1: He will make those kind of plays and make you say, wow, Right,
Speaker 1: I think that's coming college, Yeah, I think that's coming.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm getting excited, because he's starting to
Speaker 1: get to the point now where he's doing the base
Speaker 1: things really well. And if that last game was any indication,
Speaker 1: all right, let's go ahead and take our final break,
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Speaker 1: All right? Nicky Yo's play to advance in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: you have to beat Tampa Bay, San Francisco and Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Put them in order. How you think you have your
Speaker 1: chances against them? What teams again? Tampa Bay, San Francisco, Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Philadelphia, San Francisco. I think that would be
Speaker 1: the order. And the only reason I say that no
Speaker 1: disrespect to what the Eagles are doing. They're gonna be
Speaker 1: They're gonna be tough as hell. But I do think
Speaker 1: the matchup of what you know them, you're playing them
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush had them rolland don't throw it to them.
Speaker 1: I think they can beat them. I think there are
Speaker 1: going to beat them again. San Francisco, though, that's a
Speaker 1: beast that you're gonna have to you know, and not
Speaker 1: only that, you have to play him in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: That you got to see the catch. You gotta see
Speaker 1: last year. You gotta see the dat getting hit by
Speaker 1: the raff. You know, all that kind of stuff. You
Speaker 1: gotta see it all and where you live it all
Speaker 1: and all that, and I think that's just gonna be
Speaker 1: a challenge. But um, you know, but I will say,
Speaker 1: I'll let y'all weigh in on this. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: also about places to play. Yeah, your offense can function
Speaker 1: fine in Tampa. It's gonna rain a little bit, but
Speaker 1: it'll sop at four o'clock and then you'll play I
Speaker 1: mean San Francisco. I think it'll be fine and then,
Speaker 1: but that's gonna be a challenge. So what did I say,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay, Philly, San Francisco. You're talking yourself
Speaker 1: out of your own answer. Just Tampa Philly, San Francisco.
Speaker 1: I actually agree completely with that. I think that the
Speaker 1: the what I saw last year from San Francisco when
Speaker 1: they played the Cowboys, that has none of that has changed.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys still have a hard time stopping power run offenses,
Speaker 1: and they are even more powerful now with Christian McCaffrey there.
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be as much of a
Speaker 1: challenge as any other team in the NFAC San Francisco
Speaker 1: will be for the Cowboys. I don't worry so much
Speaker 1: about whether they'll nick on that point, just because this team,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, are constructed to play in any weather situation.
Speaker 1: They run the ball pretty well, and and that they
Speaker 1: just I mean, that's how they that's how they win games,
Speaker 1: and so I don't think they're they have to have
Speaker 1: this open passing game like last year. I think they
Speaker 1: were more reliant on the past. Think they do They
Speaker 1: think they do? Yeah, they think they do. They go
Speaker 1: to lambeau Field, they gonna throw. I mean, Ryanan Rodgers
Speaker 1: is running in a hundred times. But they got to throw.
Speaker 1: If you get into a situation where where you cannot
Speaker 1: if the if the weather says you cannot throw today,
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys still would be effective. Amber you
Speaker 1: got an idea, would you how would you rank Tampa,
Speaker 1: San Francisco, Philadelphia as far as having to beat to
Speaker 1: get through the playoffs, having to be you know, beat
Speaker 1: in Philly? Would that's just a big win, you know,
Speaker 1: and playoff time. But I would say I agree with
Speaker 1: those orders too. And it's interesting because it got me
Speaker 1: to think when you mentioned the place they would be
Speaker 1: playing and the weather and all that, it got me thinking,
Speaker 1: am I, okay, what's really a scenario that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: do not play well in? What would you say? Like
Speaker 1: they're usually like you said, they kind of play about
Speaker 1: the same in every place. And there are other teams
Speaker 1: that you can say, oh, in this type of not
Speaker 1: even weather in place, but also the time of the
Speaker 1: day that they don't play well and all that. So
Speaker 1: I don't think they're affected that much in that way.
Speaker 1: But I don't know they're They're all kind of the
Speaker 1: same honestly to me. And yeah, nobody I don't think
Speaker 1: wants to play Tom Brady in a playoff game. I
Speaker 1: think that would be terrifying to me again anymore. You know,
Speaker 1: you might be right. It's just that you look at history. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I actually I was as Ambel was talking, I
Speaker 1: was like, I wish I could go back and change mind,
Speaker 1: because I would actually put Philly Tampa. Then, you know what,
Speaker 1: I very much thought that. I thought Philadelphia, Tampa and
Speaker 1: San Francisco. I want nothing to do with San Francisco, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really don't. They don't let you run the ball.
Speaker 1: They play really good past defense, and their and their quarterback,
Speaker 1: their quarterback doesn't have to throw a touchdown pass and
Speaker 1: they win games. That's scary to me. So I would Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: It seems like the team you know what, you play him,
Speaker 1: you know them, You had a chance to beat him
Speaker 1: with a backup quarterback. We'll see what happens on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 1: But man, I think Dallas would match up pretty well
Speaker 1: against them, and Tampa can take away which you do best.
Speaker 1: Like Tampa's run defense is really good. I think that's
Speaker 1: the reason why Dallas didn't. They look so poor. They're
Speaker 1: in their first game of the season. They just couldn't
Speaker 1: run the ball. YEP. I just think that if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys do become this consistent team and we get the
Speaker 1: best version of them, which to me would be I'm
Speaker 1: not saying it's gonna replicate the same, but let's say
Speaker 1: kind of how they did in Minnesota. If they do that,
Speaker 1: I think they can take down anything. And I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you know, again, I'm not saying everything's gonna be perfect
Speaker 1: in all three phases of the game or anything like that,
Speaker 1: but if you got something close, I definitely think they
Speaker 1: can beat down either any of those three. Is that
Speaker 1: Minnesota doesn't pose the same challenges and them, Nick, you
Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday. It's about the matchups. Minnesota doesn't
Speaker 1: pose the same challenges to the Cowboys that Tampa, San Francisco,
Speaker 1: and Philly do. All three of those teams pretty good
Speaker 1: at stopping the run, and they're defensively gonna let you
Speaker 1: score a lot, and then you got to match up
Speaker 1: with what they're gonna do offensively. So I just think
Speaker 1: Minnesota is just a different beast. If Minnesota even played
Speaker 1: the Cowboys different, I think they could create more problems
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. They just decided they want to pass.
Speaker 1: If Minnesota running the ball in Francisco is the big
Speaker 1: the toughest matchup because their defense is really tough, their
Speaker 1: offense is very physical in their quarterbacks. Say what you
Speaker 1: want about him, he's played in a super Bowl before.
Speaker 1: When he wins games because like what you said, it's
Speaker 1: not about stats. He doesn't care about all that. He
Speaker 1: just goes out and functions. Yeah and bar. In the
Speaker 1: month of December, it will be up to the offense
Speaker 1: to carry this team. Uh yes, damn hold on, Uh
Speaker 1: that's a that's a tough one, but I would say
Speaker 1: yes because we've seen it way too many times where
Speaker 1: and specific especially this season, where the defense does do enough,
Speaker 1: but then he comes down to the offense not being
Speaker 1: able to score enough points for you. So I think
Speaker 1: that whatever this area, even if it's against a team
Speaker 1: that can run the ball pretty well and the defense
Speaker 1: struggles in that aspect, I still think they can do
Speaker 1: enough to hold the opposing team down or close enough
Speaker 1: for the offense to be able to catch up and
Speaker 1: beat them. So I think it all comes down to
Speaker 1: what the offense is doing and being able to generate points. Derek,
Speaker 1: does this offense carry you in December? Nope? I still
Speaker 1: think defense is the best thing that you do. And
Speaker 1: if they're going to have any success this year, it's
Speaker 1: going to be because the defense plays out of their
Speaker 1: mind and the offense supports that. I think there will
Speaker 1: be games where maybe you need a little bit more
Speaker 1: support from the offense, But if the defense falls apart,
Speaker 1: I don't think they have a chance. Like look at
Speaker 1: the games they've lost this year. Those games typically the
Speaker 1: defense didn't play their best game. So I think it's
Speaker 1: about the defense. Yeah, I want to use your line
Speaker 1: against you, mark being on your scantron. Yeah, I think right. Um,
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Derek, because those games, like you said,
Speaker 1: those the games that you lost, you know, Green Bay,
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, the last two teams that beat the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: they've really neutralized Michael Parsons. They figured out how to
Speaker 1: get him away from what he does best, and and
Speaker 1: that's I think that's the key, and then everything kind
Speaker 1: of falls from there. So I mean, offense, offense is
Speaker 1: gonna have to play. The offense is gonna have to
Speaker 1: do its thing. But yeah, if the defense struggles, I
Speaker 1: just think that that's what their their bread and butter
Speaker 1: is right now, it's defense, Derek, Which would you which
Speaker 1: let me see here, which move. Would you like the
Speaker 1: best adding Tyrn Smith or Odell Beckham to the lineup?
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham And it's more about replacement value, And what
Speaker 1: I mean by that is, I think you will get
Speaker 1: more by having, as you said earlier, having Odell replaced
Speaker 1: Noah Brown than having Tyrn Smith's replaced Tyler Smith. I
Speaker 1: think Tyler Smith. I agree that at his best, Tyron
Speaker 1: Smith is better than Tyler Smith. I don't know that
Speaker 1: the difference, based on what I saw this summer and
Speaker 1: what I project Tyran to be at this point, I
Speaker 1: don't know if that difference is bit as big as
Speaker 1: what Odell Beckham to Noah Brown would be. Han Bar,
Speaker 1: would you rather have Tyran Smith or Odell Beckham in
Speaker 1: the lineup? I just don't think you've really missed And
Speaker 1: he's saying this, but it's true to me. I don't
Speaker 1: think you've really missed Tyrant Smith in the lineup. I
Speaker 1: think they've managed to play games very well. But on
Speaker 1: the other side, if had they had a better wide receiver,
Speaker 1: I think they would have worn some of those games
Speaker 1: that they lost. So right now, the value at wide
Speaker 1: receiver and the need for it, it's a lot higher
Speaker 1: than tackle. Have you ever seen me order at a menu?
Speaker 1: I mean in the steak I'm just like, where's the
Speaker 1: combo pladder? I want both? I mean, I think I
Speaker 1: can get both there. But I agree with your assessment
Speaker 1: there about about Tyring versus Tyler and O'Dell versus Noah
Speaker 1: Brown or Turpin or Tolbird or whatever. But I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm greedy, and I mean I've never seen an NFC
Speaker 1: Championship game of life, so I'd like just both, please,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll throw this was a young man, we
Speaker 1: did that. Yeah, I'll throw this into I think Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham Junior will help this running game. The running game
Speaker 1: is already good, but having him on the field, defense
Speaker 1: is going to have to respect him and his abilities.
Speaker 1: So when you put him out there with Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 1: and Michael Gallop and and whatever tight Ends whatever other guys,
Speaker 1: you got to skill positions. Now, if teams are gonna say, hey,
Speaker 1: we really really have to keep that that guy back
Speaker 1: a little bit to make sure we don't get beat,
Speaker 1: I think that helps the run game even more. Running
Speaker 1: game is already playing really well. You're not wrong with that,
Speaker 1: But also, just to be fair, I do think Tyrn
Speaker 1: Smith is going to help your left guard whoever that is.
Speaker 1: It's gonna help your tight ends not have to chip
Speaker 1: every time, it's gonna help your quarterback. So I do
Speaker 1: think a better left tackle will also help some other
Speaker 1: guys around it. That's a great question because they're both
Speaker 1: going to help other people, and they both and they
Speaker 1: both have enough name recognition for defenses to have to
Speaker 1: respect that. Yep, that's true. My final one for you guys, Nick,
Speaker 1: do you worry about Brett Maher missing that last field goal? God? Oh,
Speaker 1: then the game? Yeah, I didn't see it, so it
Speaker 1: didn't happen. We're down waiting. We're trying to move out
Speaker 1: down to the field. Yeah. I mean, I mean for
Speaker 1: a guy that picked thirty one nineteen, I mean, if
Speaker 1: he would have made that, that would have been kind
Speaker 1: of nice. I was kind of happy if my sixteen
Speaker 1: was looking good. You have the best ones. If you
Speaker 1: guys haven't seen what we put on the website now,
Speaker 1: I mean pod picks. Everybody in the podcast has their picks,
Speaker 1: and it's it's pretty good. We're probably not going to
Speaker 1: see another team's helmet flash up there for a while
Speaker 1: because these next three weeks yeah, Dallas needs to win,
Speaker 1: should win. No not, I don't really, I don't worry
Speaker 1: about it. He's had enough room for that. He's I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the kind of kick he is with forty five
Speaker 1: yard right, I mean, yeah, you want them to make
Speaker 1: all of them. But man, he's been so good. It's
Speaker 1: too early to worry about that. I think. And bar, Yeah,
Speaker 1: by that point, you were ready to go to the
Speaker 1: locker room, you were ready to go home and your
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving meal. No, the game was won by Dan. He's
Speaker 1: done so much greatness to this point. I think, huh, Dan,
Speaker 1: I thought I thought she said Dan? Or say then
Speaker 1: by then? I say, did you say Dan? I thought
Speaker 1: you were going back to your Dan Bailey days. No.
Speaker 1: I took his poster off a while back. Now it
Speaker 1: Slee is there, but no, no, no, I just think again,
Speaker 1: he's done such such an amazing job for a guy
Speaker 1: that was on the team, was not on the team.
Speaker 1: Then they bring him back and you're like, what the
Speaker 1: heck is going on? He was already here, we already
Speaker 1: saw him. Why are we bringing a guy that we
Speaker 1: already know didn't work Kyle? So he's done really, really
Speaker 1: good and for him to miss that. I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not concerned at all. There not even a little bit
Speaker 1: that he's been so good this year. Susie hit, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I missed. That's one thing I like about him. I
Speaker 1: think he's just mentally tough for all the he's here,
Speaker 1: he's not here, and to come back and do what
Speaker 1: he's doing right now. That tells me a lot about
Speaker 1: his mental makeup him concerned. And tell the story about
Speaker 1: Chris Beam, our producer, and he comes up to me
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, and you know, we're down there ready to
Speaker 1: do a pregame show and he comes up to me
Speaker 1: and he goes, he just I think it was like
Speaker 1: fifty yard or and it was it was so far
Speaker 1: to the right it missed the net. He was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it was terrible kicking. I was, you know, okay, well,
Speaker 1: well see, and then I saw some other ones that
Speaker 1: he made it, you know, but you just saw that.
Speaker 1: So every time he kicked it in Minnesota, I was thinking,
Speaker 1: what Chris said, it was like that one bad miss. Well,
Speaker 1: he has like the greatest game in the history of games.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a sixty yard or twice the fifties
Speaker 1: and all that. So yeah, I mean maybe to your point,
Speaker 1: like when it didn't really matter, it's not just lay
Speaker 1: in the game, let's get out of here. But when
Speaker 1: I mean when the money kicks, I mean he's he's
Speaker 1: made him. Yeah, he definite answer. Thank you, guys, appreciate that.
Speaker 1: How's a good game, good good questions? All right, we
Speaker 1: appreciate you, guys. Jas We're back tomorrow. We're gonna start
Speaker 1: jumping into Colts, Cowboys versus Colts after we watched them
Speaker 1: last night. So we're gonna get logos on the helmet
Speaker 1: or just look like a high school team or what
Speaker 1: are we doing here? I don't know. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: it all that tomorrow. So then for Nick Keatman and
Speaker 1: Brian brought us in Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Hieltson. This
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