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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys This is media Match,

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Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders trumping wisdom and offering sizzling

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Speaker 1: takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Now your host knew he scruggs.

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Speaker 3: Hey, we got a lot to talk about here on

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Speaker 3: the media Match. Thank you so much for coming in

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Speaker 3: here with your favorite writers. He's most trusted. Clarence Hill,

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Speaker 3: all City Dallas is here in the Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 3: He is ed Warder in the house. WFAA knew him

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Speaker 3: from the Dallas Warning News, CNN SI, I go back

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Speaker 3: to those days and also ESPN. He is the National

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Speaker 3: Championship the bucket alum himself. He is Jean Jacques Taylor.

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Speaker 3: At least somebody here at the tables team went and

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Speaker 3: won a playoff game. Wasn't the whole dog one thing?

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Speaker 3: I should say one the whole thing? Congratulations sir, appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Take your bow, Take your bow.

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Speaker 2: We took out bout.

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Speaker 4: You played such a huge role in the accomplishment.

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Speaker 2: I put my well, yeah, yeah, I got this.

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Speaker 3: The degree says the Ohio State University congratulators the degree.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to trust.

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Speaker 4: I worked with him closely. I need to see it.

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Speaker 3: So I'm giving your props. Man, I could give you

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Speaker 3: your prop I appreciate that. Some other people can't.

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Speaker 5: Yeh.

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Speaker 6: Can't you talking about this man?

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Speaker 5: But you looked at me. Cut your eyes, pray at me.

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Speaker 4: You're still trying to get over here.

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Speaker 2: He helped me tickets to the to the Texas whooping.

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Speaker 5: Come on, man, stop it, okay, okay.

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Speaker 6: I had no problem with him in his buck eye fandom.

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Speaker 6: Steve Dinner's the other hand, he texted me non stop.

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Speaker 2: I see, I don't do any of that.

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Speaker 5: I don't mess with nobody. I had no problem with

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Speaker 5: this man.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations.

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Speaker 6: I told Rocks congratulations outside when I saw Yeah, I

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Speaker 6: didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: She low, she low, keeping she low.

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Speaker 3: Keep it okay, well, well yeah, that's rare. Low keep.

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Speaker 2: My god.

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Speaker 5: I saw Bobby.

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Speaker 6: I saw Bobby Compden in the bowels little ATMT Stadium

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Speaker 6: after the Cotton Bowl.

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Speaker 5: He was happy.

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Speaker 3: Old Bobby Carr.

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Speaker 4: Was in Cobo.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Work.

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Speaker 4: I was trying to turn this Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of NFL stuff coming here.

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Speaker 3: We just getting work. Now that the Jaguars are getting

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Speaker 3: rid of GM Trent Bulky. So that news going on

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Speaker 3: there and then right here in this building, Brian Schottenheimer offense,

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Speaker 3: the coordinated the last two years, getting a second interview

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Speaker 3: to day with the club. Yesterday's interview. They needed more

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Speaker 3: uncore performance from shotty.

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Speaker 4: Ed anybody else getting a second interview among the four

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Speaker 4: people who have interviewed, not to our knowledge at this point,

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Speaker 4: ed Smoke this thing out ed, I think it makes

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Speaker 4: sense from Jerry's.

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Speaker 6: Portfen, just don't say it makes sense. Just don't it

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Speaker 6: makes sense.

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Speaker 4: I want, I said Jerry's point of view, just.

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Speaker 5: Make him so let him. Let him talk.

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Speaker 4: So he's obviously a very experienced NFL assistant coach twenty

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Speaker 4: five years, have been here for three years, has not

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Speaker 4: called the plays here. This is the only place among

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Speaker 4: the ten teams he's worked for where he was the

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Speaker 4: offensive coordinator but didn't call the plays. He deferred to

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Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy on that. So I think the reaction to

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Speaker 4: this is going to.

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Speaker 3: Be bad, awful. It's going to be worse, to bet.

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Speaker 4: Will it be worse than hiring Dave Campbell?

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Speaker 6: Yes, because at least you could sell Campo that Campbell

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Speaker 6: was part of the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say yes you could, yes you could

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Speaker 2: go fail.

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Speaker 5: Campbell was part of Super Bowl era.

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Speaker 6: He was part of Jimmy and he was continuation of that,

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Speaker 6: and we're going back to him past.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's nothing to say.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing to sell here, nothing continuity. And that's also

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Speaker 4: big on Jerry's agenda.

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Speaker 2: So we can continue to seven and ten.

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Speaker 4: What part of the twelve and five teams too?

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Speaker 5: And the seven and ten team.

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Speaker 4: Okay again, say you criticized, and understandably so and fairly

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Speaker 4: so when you're the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry's said the

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Speaker 4: Cowboys can always have the best there is in coaching

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Speaker 4: because of their's our status as a franchise. And then

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Speaker 4: they don't even interview. This is people who are the

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Speaker 4: most coveted coaches in football who are being hired by

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Speaker 7: This franchise is falling apart because of its overwhelming arrogance.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's arrogance is beyond belief.

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Speaker 7: And that's why they think that yes, anybody can should

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Speaker 7: be welcome to have this job. And we don't have

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Speaker 7: to interview these people as that people, and we could

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Speaker 7: just take our time getting around to people because people

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Speaker 7: will be happy to be here, and we can offer

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Speaker 7: Mike McCarthy whatever contract we want because he should just

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Speaker 7: be thankful to be here. And now you're like, Doug,

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Speaker 7: this is this is pathetic, and it's it's why they're

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Speaker 7: you know, it's they can have some talent and they

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Speaker 7: can do well, it's just hard to overcome the arrogance

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Speaker 7: that they have.

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Speaker 3: So you said pathetic, Are you saying the candidate pool?

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Speaker 3: What's that?

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Speaker 2: The pathetic thing is that you.

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Speaker 4: Can't presume failure by Schottenheimer. He's never had the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: No, well, it's not even it's bigger than Shottenheimer.

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Speaker 7: It's the fact that you're doing all of this so

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Speaker 7: that you're getting yet another coach who's so happy to

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Speaker 7: have a job because ain't nobody's going to hire him?

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Speaker 7: That whatever you say, hey Shoddy, go jump this high? Yes, sir,

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Speaker 7: how long should I stay in the air? Because he's

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Speaker 7: happy to have the job because he ain't got no

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Speaker 7: other options? He don't even have a Coordinet option.

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Speaker 5: If you don't get this job.

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Speaker 7: He back to being a position coach making four hundred

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Speaker 7: thousand instead of you know what will Jerry, give him

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Speaker 7: for me?

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Speaker 2: Will he given that? Okay?

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Speaker 7: If that makes him the lowest paid coach, you'll get that.

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Speaker 7: So that's what I mean. It's bigger than shoddy. Not

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Speaker 7: just don't even have anything to.

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Speaker 2: Do with him.

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Speaker 4: He can't Ultimately, it does have a lot to do

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Speaker 7: He can't succeed in his role. That is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: So that's why I said, don't have anything.

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Speaker 3: When you say that, all right, most trusted.

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Speaker 6: Or the problem is the process, And I think that's

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Speaker 6: what you're talking about it. It's how you're doing it.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's saying that you know, yes, he could

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Speaker 6: be successful. We can't say he won't be successful. And

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Speaker 6: so it's not personal about him him. It's about the

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Speaker 6: process and how you arrived at him. And is this

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 6: Is it about being comfortable? Is it about right? But

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Speaker 6: is that about winning?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 4: Anybody you talk to who's successful and wor I'm not

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Speaker 4: defending this, presume the guy's gonna found No, no, no.

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Speaker 6: We're he's railing about the process, just like you railed

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Speaker 6: about them not interviewing the best coaches that are available.

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Speaker 5: You don't even give a call to Aaron Glenn. You

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Speaker 5: don't even give a call.

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Speaker 4: Well, he didn't want them.

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Speaker 6: They didn't make a request they can be turned down,

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Speaker 6: like the Cowboys turned down Mike McCarthy going to Chicago.

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Speaker 6: They didn't even make a request to be turned down, Okay,

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Speaker 6: because they were still really that with McCarthy, that that whole.

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Speaker 5: Week when they could have done that. So it's it's

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Speaker 5: the writing process. It's it's the idea.

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Speaker 6: That you were waiting, wasting time deciding whether Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 6: and then you kind of left with your bands down.

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Speaker 5: And now you're trying.

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Speaker 4: To You only knew for a year this might happen.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you only, And now you're trying to grasp the

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Speaker 6: sprawls and and and the other issue is the guys

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Speaker 6: you've interviewed. Okay, the only only two guys you've interviewed

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Speaker 6: have been coveted by other teams.

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Speaker 4: Only two of the four who two of the four

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Speaker 6: Another Yeah, that that that that we wanted by other teams,

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Speaker 6: And like these guys are just nobody else one are

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Speaker 6: the cowboys, the smartest guy in the room.

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Speaker 5: Do they know something nobody else knows?

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Speaker 4: You're about do for one of those, doesn't it?

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's that's just that's the problem with

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Speaker 4: And just like the notion if you meet with all

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Speaker 4: these top coaches and then pick Brian Schottenheimer, that's different, yes,

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Speaker 4: than the way it's happening.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And then you have the witting component. You know, this

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Speaker 6: Witten on the staff so he can be the air

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Speaker 6: apparent and listen with may be a great coach okay

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Speaker 6: one day, you know, but here's a guy who's gotten

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Speaker 6: out of the mud everywhere he's gone, right, you know,

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Speaker 6: he talked about that, you know, coming from Tennessee and

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Speaker 6: he wasn't giving anything and everything else he earned it

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Speaker 6: became yes, call of Famer. The way he's going about

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Speaker 6: this coaching process, the way he's been put on the

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Speaker 6: pestle to be the next coach, that's not getting out

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Speaker 6: of the dirt. That's not what Aaron Glenn did. That's

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Speaker 6: not what Dan Campbell did. You know, work your way up,

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Speaker 6: earn this spot.

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Speaker 4: That's what he's gonna do if he gets on the staff.

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Speaker 4: Here is it?

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Speaker 5: Are you earning your spot?

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Speaker 9: You're already been given, like Jason Garrett, you know, Wade Phillips,

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Speaker 9: you're not earning anything.

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Speaker 7: You know, you raised a good point when you say

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Speaker 7: it's about comfortability. But any of us who've ever talked

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Speaker 7: to anybody who's ever been successful in any line of work,

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Speaker 7: what do they say? You must be uncomfortable. You got

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Speaker 7: to experience the uncomfortability, so what so you can grow

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Speaker 7: and get better? And so when you could take this

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Speaker 7: comfortable process, it's it's bound to fail.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So Brian Schottenheimer is getting a lot of the

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Speaker 3: attention right now. Second job interview. Let's circle back to

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Speaker 3: Kellen Moore, who the Eagles offensive court, and he's busy

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Speaker 3: this week. Yes, the two two teams in the NFC

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Speaker 3: Championship are in the NFC East Washington and UH Philadelphia, and.

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Speaker 4: They both have coaches who or coordinators who were just here,

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Speaker 4: just just here.

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Speaker 3: So is Kellen Moore out ed?

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Speaker 4: That's a source? It is, It is one. It is

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Speaker 4: somebody who could be considered. But I guess I'll let

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Speaker 4: it ring.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that Kellen Moore's out, but I think

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Speaker 4: there's the sense I'm getting is that they're more confident

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Speaker 4: in Brian Schottenheimer as a leadership figure, uh, commanding presence

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Speaker 4: in the room than they are Kellen Moore. Like that's

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Speaker 5: Hey, kids, it was in a drive through interview.

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Speaker 5: Have you have you talked to Kelly.

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Speaker 5: No, have you talked to Killing.

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Speaker 4: I'm asking if I got that Kelling.

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Speaker 6: So what will be interesting is if you make this

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Speaker 7: Okay, you pass on a Super Bowl offense coordinator. I

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Speaker 5: Well, and it is, but that's the results are in

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Speaker 5: No, but what Eric Glynn has a history of track.

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Speaker 5: But you can sell not not inside I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: Are we trying to win?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's winning and winning if he gets to the

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Speaker 4: Are you waiting that long? If you're Jerry, you know

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Speaker 2: You waited.

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Speaker 5: It's not a way.

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Speaker 4: He didn't know Chang Gilly till then.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just saying, we've been through these coaching processes. Yes,

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Speaker 6: You get a guy that's in, how uch should you

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Speaker 6: You could have hired you could have interviewed him last week?

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Speaker 6: I think it was a strategic that the two Rooney

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Speaker 4: No, Kellen was first.

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Speaker 6: He was first after they had already scheduled those of

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Speaker 2: The weekend, and he wasn't gonna take you but a

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Speaker 5: He was shoehorned in.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, he could easily fill three hours and he's gotten

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Speaker 4: none as far as we could tell.

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Speaker 6: Those interviews were already scheduled, and then we shoehorned Keilling

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Speaker 4: But they could have talked to Leslie Fraser or Robert Salah,

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Speaker 5: No doubt. But that's part of the process.

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Speaker 4: Why are you you don't like the process?

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Speaker 5: We already talked, right, But that's part of the process.

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Speaker 6: Why are you trying to pick a coordinator for your

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Speaker 4: What if What if Kellen Moore or shot he said, Hey,

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Speaker 4: I really like to have Robert Salaz my defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: So any way we could talk to them.

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Speaker 6: Well then they Kellen mood go and talk to him.

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Speaker 6: But but busy, keep this in mind, keeping this in mind.

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Speaker 6: And you know that you've been doing it a long time.

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Speaker 5: I'm not telling you.

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Speaker 2: Nothing doing a long time.

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Speaker 5: These guys already got people in place.

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Speaker 6: They already Kellen Moore has already talked to potential hires

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Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys head coaching search. Mike McCarthy no longer here.

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Speaker 3: He's waiting to talk to the Saints about their head

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Speaker 4: Assume he don't only stay here under any circumstances if

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Speaker 4: he was to play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that goes with that saying.

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Speaker 4: I don't think much of the defensive staff is expecting

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Speaker 4: to come back here, regardless of who the next head coaches.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you're thinking Brian Schottenheimer because of continuity,

452
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Speaker 4: that continuity might play on offense, but defensively, I think

453
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Speaker 4: there's going to be sweeping changes on that side of

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Speaker 4: the ball. I'm not sure Zimmer is coming. Mike was available, Yeah, Zimmer,

455
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Speaker 4: how come I don't interview him per head coach?

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Speaker 5: Exactly? Why when you get a shot of head COACHS?

457
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Speaker 5: Was wrong with Zimmer? He's been done it before.

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Speaker 4: He came back here to save you last year, to

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Speaker 4: save Mike and.

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Speaker 6: John and and and inconceivably right, Shottenheimer can beat the

461
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Speaker 6: office coordinator. You know you're still not and you windn't

462
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Speaker 6: can be able to stand up? Why is Zimer not

463
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Speaker 6: the head coachs? Why is Shottenheim or with Zimmer?

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Speaker 3: Well, so far in the process they have not talked

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Speaker 3: to Mike Zimmer about that exactly.

466
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Speaker 4: So well, they've only known him for thirty years. Maybe

467
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Speaker 4: they don't need to talk to him but hire him.

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Speaker 4: But we haven't heard that at all.

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Speaker 3: So two interviews that Dion Sanders not interviewed officially, Mike

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Speaker 3: Zimmer not interviewed officially. So just just names other people

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Speaker 3: have brought up and had wondered about. But they haven't

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Speaker 3: even spoken to them, and shot, he's the only one

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Speaker 3: named so far. We've heard that's got a second interview,

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Speaker 3: which I soon puts him in the lead.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I think it's just it's one of

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Speaker 7: those gathering momentum things. He seems to be gathering momentum well.

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Speaker 5: No doubt, which puts him in the league.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, but I mean, you don't do the

479
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Speaker 6: second interview unless you're trying to hire a guy.

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Speaker 5: You know, you bring a guy back for the second time.

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Speaker 6: It's like the other when Ben came back and came

482
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Speaker 6: in to interview with Chicago they hired and Eric lenn

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Speaker 6: goes back and interviews with the Jets.

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Speaker 5: They hired it.

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Speaker 3: So I've heard, I've heard the name Matt Eberflus for

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Speaker 3: defensive coordinator. Thoughts anybody else here that's a.

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Speaker 7: Good defensive coordinat He just wasn't a good head coach.

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Speaker 7: He's fine as a defensive coordinator, and what is he familiar?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think he would have a lot of

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Speaker 4: internal support here. I think he did a good job.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they wanted to make him a defensive coordinator

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Speaker 4: here before.

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Speaker 7: I mean he's a quality coach. Ain't nobody mad about

494
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Speaker 7: eber Flues. He'll have your defense playing good, solid defense.

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Speaker 7: And you don't have to worry about him because he's

496
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Speaker 7: been a head coach. He can handle everything over there.

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Speaker 7: If you want to be exclusively offensive, get Pep talks again.

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Speaker 6: And you know, Mike Irving was on his YouTube channel.

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Speaker 6: If you go see it, it's like Baron Bones operation.

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Speaker 6: We got enough money to prove that YouTube channel.

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Speaker 4: Just where is this coming from? Is this going somewhere?

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Speaker 3: Shooting off the hip the day man, I'm just talking.

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Speaker 4: Is this going somewhere?

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Speaker 6: He was not happy with Schottenheim. He said the cowboy

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Speaker 6: did the high coach for the morale of the team.

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Speaker 5: In morale.

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Speaker 6: Right, he said, he does. This does not inspire him.

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Speaker 6: He's his dobbers down. His morale is low. He like

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Speaker 6: most fans.

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Speaker 4: So he's not going to do the big thing on

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Speaker 4: the scoreboard before games. If Shottenheimer's the head coach.

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Speaker 5: He's not going to do the big pump up video

513
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Speaker 5: that's already been done.

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Speaker 7: Tell them, tell them that you just hd they just

515
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Speaker 7: got a quarterback. He should be happy about that.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm just saying, though, But my overall point is.

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Speaker 6: Just looking at our Twitter mentions, your Twitter mentions, fans

518
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Speaker 6: are not happy. This is not exciting anybody. People are

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Speaker 6: talking about leaving. You know, I'm done with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: We'll see that really happens. But from from a year

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Speaker 6: in which the apathy was an all time and I've

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Speaker 6: been around here a long time.

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Speaker 5: We've been around a long time, You've been around a

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Speaker 5: long time.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of empty seats that last game.

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Speaker 6: The apathy for this team coming into the season was

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Speaker 6: as low as I've ever seen. This fan base is

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Speaker 6: more disillusioned as I've ever seen. And put this on

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Speaker 6: top of it, after this past season, I.

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Speaker 4: Won't give you like ninety seven thousand people at games now.

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Speaker 6: Well they might be half from other teams because they

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Speaker 6: know destination, but I mean, it's it's just it doesn't inspire.

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Speaker 6: There's nothing about this that's inspiring for fan base that's starving.

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Speaker 4: What will it do to the players? Do you think

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Speaker 4: that's who needs to be inspired?

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Speaker 2: Let's sa Another thing is the players, I think why why?

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Speaker 14: But what?

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Speaker 4: Okay, they don't need to be inspired by their Boston No,

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Speaker 4: but what.

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Speaker 6: The most things we're talking about was not about him

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Speaker 6: inspiring the team, was about him being comfortable. It's about

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Speaker 6: keeping the status quo, and that is the wrong attitude.

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Speaker 4: I agree that the fan base is going to be

544
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Speaker 4: outraged at, asked, apathy, apathetic, even worse. But if you win,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: And that's the whole thing is can you can you win?

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Speaker 4: And would Jerry do this if he was convinced Schottenheimer

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Speaker 4: wouldn't win?

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Speaker 2: But see here's why that doesn't.

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Speaker 5: Mean, Yeah, why he doesn't? Why did he trade for Mingo? Mingo?

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Speaker 4: I mean, did Jerry do any day giving up a

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Speaker 4: fourth round pick.

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Speaker 2: No, Jerry lies to himself at every turn.

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Speaker 7: That's why you can convince yourself that two rookie starters

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Speaker 7: playing different.

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Speaker 4: Later I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I mean he literally estimated that, you know, he got

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Speaker 2: the zig Ziggler.

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Speaker 6: I'm talking about the officsive line or office line, because

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Speaker 6: they let the people go and they tried to sell

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Speaker 6: why it would work with the rookies.

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Speaker 14: Right.

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Speaker 7: So the fact that he can convince himself that, oh shot,

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Speaker 7: he can come in here and do this and that,

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Speaker 7: and that's that's that's on point, that's on message for him,

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Speaker 7: that's on brand for him, and then midway through the

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Speaker 7: season he'll be like, huh, I guess this didn't work.

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Speaker 4: I guess I'm gonna have to move wing up sooner

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Speaker 4: than I thought.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I mean it's dude. I mean, they they need

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Speaker 7: somebody to come in and slap them because you can't.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you just can't continually going around lying to yourself,

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Speaker 7: because that's how.

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Speaker 2: You end up with these problems.

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Speaker 5: Go spend that ten million and get Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 4: Do you think all of us started with the misclibration

577
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Speaker 4: of the McCarthy situation, Like, oh, absolutely, we think we've

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Speaker 4: got leverage. He doesn't have any other options. We can

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Speaker 4: offer them whatever we want and he's going to take it.

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Speaker 2: It's the arrogance, man. It's like, well they still you know,

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Speaker 2: and I've said it for a minute now.

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Speaker 4: It's some of this is.

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Speaker 7: They win their marketing deals. Like they destroy you when

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Speaker 7: you say I want to be this of the Cowboys official,

585
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Speaker 7: this official right, because they say, hey, we'll take you know,

586
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Speaker 7: the vast majority of the money. But you go out

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Speaker 7: and tell everybody else that you're the official this of

588
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Speaker 7: the Cowboys and you make your money that way. They

589
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Speaker 7: do that and they win so often that they've convinced

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Speaker 7: themselves that we can do that with coaches, with players,

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Speaker 7: with everybody, because we're the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: You should just be happy to be here.

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Speaker 4: But if you objectively look at the last thirty years,

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Speaker 4: you can't possibly come to that conclusion.

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Speaker 2: But they lie to themselves, so they do.

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Speaker 6: Since KYB being the richest franchise in sports over the

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Speaker 6: last thirty years, being the most watched team in sports,

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Speaker 6: I'm just look at it.

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Speaker 4: Over the week, throw a lot of one o'clock kickoffs

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Speaker 4: towards the end of the Look look at that, but.

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Speaker 6: Look at look at last year cowboys blowout loss to

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Speaker 6: Green Bay was viewed by five million more people than

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Speaker 6: Green Bay's lost to Philadelphia same same time.

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Speaker 4: The fascination with the franchise.

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Speaker 7: But the thing that they're missing this they've gone down

606
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Speaker 7: a little bit is you know, they're losing a little

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Speaker 7: bit of star power every year.

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Speaker 2: You know, you got Dak, you got CD, you got Micah,

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Speaker 2: that's it.

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Speaker 7: And so before you had a collection the galaxy, it

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Speaker 7: starts eighty nine probos this or that. Now you know,

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Speaker 7: you you lose those and you lose another bit of

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Speaker 7: visible ability. You lose another bit of stuff you can

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Speaker 7: advertise to you know, they need to shake it up,

615
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Speaker 7: but they won't. Why because they love comfortability.

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Speaker 3: So I assume everyone's reactions on their own social media

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Speaker 3: channels where people were happy about the prospect of Brian Schotenheimer.

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Speaker 3: If Schottenheimer does get the job, what is Jerry the

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Speaker 3: ultimate marketer sell Dak?

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Speaker 4: That's what he said he's gonna sell. People really are

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Speaker 4: not enamored of him either, not not anymore. When we

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Speaker 4: asked him after the last game, how do you sell

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Speaker 4: hope to your fan to your fan base, he said,

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Speaker 4: we got one of the best quarterbacks in football, and

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Speaker 4: we're gonna protect him, and that's gonna be it. That's

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Speaker 4: where he went with it. That was his answer. I

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Speaker 4: protect him on both things, he said, a well protected,

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Speaker 4: superstar quarterback. He's one of the best quarterbacks in football.

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Speaker 4: He has been sometimes so.

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Speaker 6: And it's crazy, and I get back to the protection thing,

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Speaker 6: and you look at what's the landscape the NFL and

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Speaker 6: landscape quarterback, which is the mobile, duel threat quarterback.

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Speaker 4: And that's what deck at the last four guys standing

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Speaker 4: right now, deck three hundreds rushing.

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Speaker 6: That's what Dak was coming out of Mississippi State, and

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Speaker 6: what he was was special about him when he broke

637
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Speaker 6: into the league was that dual threat part of it.

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Speaker 5: And that's now out of his game.

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Speaker 4: And if you look at the like you look at

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Speaker 4: Philadelphia Washington, they're the two best teams in the NFL

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Speaker 4: with the Reid option, which the Cowboys were exceptional at

642
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: when Zeke and Dak first came into the league, and

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Speaker 4: they had arguably their best teams, their thirteen win teams

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Speaker 4: his rookie year. That's what made that team such a

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Speaker 4: powerful dynamic offense. Was Dak could run. Now you really can't.

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Speaker 4: And even I mean Jerry didn't want him to run

647
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Speaker 4: before this. Clarence stalked him into running, shame Dak into running.

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Speaker 4: I was there two days before he suffered that injury

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Speaker 4: in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: I seem to remember that too.

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Speaker 5: I just don't understand why you can't run a sprint?

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Speaker 6: Why?

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Speaker 10: Why?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 6: What are we doing that you can't sprint? I mean,

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Speaker 6: look at all these coaches, look at Patrick Mahomes is

657
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Speaker 6: not fat. Patrick Brown probably won a five flat forty,

658
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Speaker 6: but he's nimble and he can sprint forward.

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Speaker 5: What is why? Why is it so crazy that your

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Speaker 5: quarterback sprints forward and that's to pull pull a hamstring

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Speaker 5: just sprinting nine. Okay, Aaron Rodgers was sprinting.

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Speaker 9: And doing fine, fight better than that at that point.

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Speaker 9: That's that's what since you bring up was doing it.

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Speaker 9: This is this is exactly how I've been hurt. This

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Speaker 9: is not out there examples. You should be sprinting every

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Speaker 2: In man, people's body is a different.

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Speaker 5: You should be spreading every day, and I got going

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Speaker 5: to do with it. You should be sprinting every day

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Speaker 5: in practice.

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Speaker 7: James Jones and man Miles Boston every day in Brownsouston

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Speaker 7: used to do all that stuff and used to pull

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Speaker 5: Okay, but he he did it throughout his career. That's

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Speaker 4: He can still extend play, yes, but what made it.

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Speaker 3: form a cowboy beat?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 3: Was it five coaching searches.

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Speaker 2: You went through around here?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 2: I think it was fun about five?

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Speaker 3: Him ed you've been here since Jerry said he won

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Speaker 3: a five hundred coaches could could found one?

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Speaker 10: Did?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So we used that number five hundred again after the

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Speaker 4: last game. By the way, did you hear that? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he said there would be five hundred coaches looking for

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Speaker 4: jobs if he made a coaching change when he went

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Speaker 4: down to the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Clarence Hill has been here for.

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Speaker 5: Nine and seven.

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Speaker 4: I got, I got, I got this insulted you missed

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Speaker 4: by a year.

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Speaker 2: I got, he got switches fire.

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Speaker 6: You know, my first year on to be, first training camp,

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Speaker 6: want to be. That's when Switcher got arrested for having

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Speaker 6: a gun at the airport.

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Speaker 4: You know what he said to me about that one

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Speaker 4: time I was supposed to interview him out at training

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Speaker 4: camp in Oxnard, And I was supposed to interview Jerry

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Speaker 4: actually and uh, Switcher was long gone and and Jerry

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Speaker 4: was late to the interview, which sometimes happens, believe it

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Speaker 4: or not. So I'm starting to look for Jerry. And

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Speaker 4: as I'm going toward, uh, the main lobby, which is

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Speaker 4: in a separate building from the practice fields where the

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Speaker 4: practice fields are, I see Jim Auer, the trainer, going

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Speaker 4: the other way. He said, Hey, have you seen Jerry? Says, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's in the what do you called the gatehouse. He's

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Speaker 4: in the gatehouse talking to Switzer. And I said, Sweitzer,

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Speaker 4: what's Switzer doing here? He said, I think he wants

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Speaker 4: to borrow Jerry's bus for TEXASO weekend or something. So

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Speaker 4: I walked in into the main lobby and they're Switzer

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Speaker 4: and I tried to act surprised, even though I had

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Speaker 4: been told he was there. And he says, that's right, Worder,

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Speaker 4: it's me.

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Speaker 2: Barry's back.

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Speaker 4: And I said are you and he says yeah. He

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Speaker 4: says I've caught your act on TV. And I said, oh,

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Speaker 4: is that what it is? In act?

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Speaker 2: And he says yeah.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you heint nearly is good that men

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Speaker 4: carrying ef and gun through the airport for you classic Switzerland.

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Speaker 3: So ed, is there a silver lining here at all?

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Speaker 3: From what I upset? And you know it's not. They're

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Speaker 3: not happy right now.

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Speaker 7: So so you're it is right, they're not gonna be

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Speaker 7: happy to they have some playoff success, Okay, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean it's up to it's up to the Cowboys front

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Speaker 4: office to make whatever decision they're going to make and

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Speaker 4: then make the best case in public to try to

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Speaker 4: get some level of acceptance. And like if they hire

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Speaker 4: Brian Scheinhimer, he deserves an opportunity to win or not, right,

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Speaker 4: That's what I would say. And at least you have

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Speaker 4: the benefit of offensive continuity, which is what Dak is

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Speaker 4: gonna want.

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Speaker 3: Like, Dak just.

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Speaker 4: Committed fully to changing everything to play in the McCarthy

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Speaker 4: style of offense. Right, he talked about it with his

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Speaker 4: footwork and the timing of his release and all that stuff,

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Speaker 4: and all that's out the window if he has to

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Speaker 4: change schemes again for what this would be the third

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Speaker 4: time in his career, he'd got a different scheme. So

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Speaker 4: I think there's that benefit, whatever you think of that,

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Speaker 4: that's what you can sell.

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Speaker 5: Silver lining here, most trusted, I don't see a silver

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Speaker 5: lining at all.

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Speaker 6: I don't see the you know, again, he deserves the

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Speaker 6: right to succeed and and and because it's not about him,

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Speaker 6: you know, there's no ankst necessarily toward him. It is

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Speaker 6: the process. A great guy, I think. You know, I've

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Speaker 6: asked them people, you know, what is his offensive philosophy?

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Speaker 6: You know he's not a West Coast guy. That's not

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Speaker 6: his background, you know. And and you know he was

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Speaker 6: part of Seattle when the let Russ Cook Cook days

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Speaker 6: and Russ had his some of his best years he left.

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Speaker 6: You go back to him time with the Jets. He

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Speaker 6: was over run guy. He's he's really at core a

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Speaker 6: run oriented, run play action type guy.

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Speaker 5: That's really what's best for that, you know, the play acts.

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Speaker 4: That's why I agree with that. That's why I thought

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Speaker 4: Ben Johnson was such a guy because that's what they

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Speaker 4: do with the line play.

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Speaker 6: Of course, you got to get the running game. You

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Speaker 6: got your office line together. But that's that's that's what

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Speaker 6: he is, and so that's best for that.

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Speaker 4: What if he brought Anthony Lynn here is his offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: Anthony Lin's a noted run game Yeah, he's run has

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Speaker 4: a history here with Parcels.

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Speaker 5: Can he can?

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Speaker 3: He can?

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Speaker 4: He getting shot? He worked together before.

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Speaker 5: He's the run game coordinator.

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Speaker 4: And if you made him offensive coordinator, I think he

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Speaker 4: could he could come.

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Speaker 2: But then what we wouldn't do.

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Speaker 4: Is that a bracelet you're wearing, w w.

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Speaker 5: W what wouldn't do?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 7: So now not seem of a bird cage lighting, not

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Speaker 7: a silver lighting. Uh and that's because bird dropping.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So just because you don't give, like.

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Speaker 7: You you really set Shottenheimer up to fail because as

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Speaker 7: soon as you lose two games, I mean, the fans

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Speaker 7: will be on his behind.

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Speaker 5: And that schedule next year is a monster.

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Speaker 7: Now normally I don't say that, but this I looked

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Speaker 7: at it for a third place team and I was like, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: that's that's that's the nasty Skips.

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Speaker 3: So that's this thing. At this point in time, since

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Speaker 3: he's got a second interview, we're gonna we'll put him

845
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Speaker 3: in the league. What advice would you give Brian shot

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Speaker 3: him if he got the job.

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Speaker 7: Uh, let me see, I would say higher if you

848
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Speaker 7: don't think he's in the building already the very best

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Speaker 7: offensive line coach, Jerry will allow you to hire and

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Speaker 7: then go heavy on offense in the draft and get

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Speaker 7: all the pieces you need because your quarterback needs pieces

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Speaker 7: around him to elevate his game, and then go do

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Speaker 7: your thing.

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Speaker 4: It could it could it work? If they played the

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Speaker 4: same system and got better playmakers or more playmakers around

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Speaker 4: their quarterback, or you.

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Speaker 7: Gotta get more playmakers than But we said that since

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Speaker 7: they lost to Turf and should not be your second

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Speaker 7: best player, he should be like your fifth or sixth

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Speaker 7: best player.

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Speaker 5: Give it, guy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, It's like one time I was telling my son

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Speaker 7: was playing au ball and I pulled the coach aside, like, dude,

864
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Speaker 7: my son should not be the second best player. He

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Speaker 7: should be like the fifth of the sixth best player.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna have a long season and we did beat fixing.

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Speaker 4: What your son's reaction is when he hears this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Oh, now, he'd probably say really, then his feelings would

869
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Speaker 2: have been hurt. I mean, I.

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't suggest that I could give Brian Schottenheimer any significant advice.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's a very engaging, relatable guy. I think

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Speaker 4: people will like him.

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Speaker 7: I was gonna say that might be his best asset

874
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 7: is that he will come across as likable and energetic,

875
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Speaker 7: and that may give fans because fans are not going

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Speaker 7: to be familiar with him, this will be their first

877
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Speaker 7: real glimpse of him, and that may be enough to

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Speaker 7: earn him.

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Speaker 4: Just the smallest benefit of the doubt. Yeah, but he's

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's a different personality than like that. I

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Speaker 4: think that's the thing that got other than the eight

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Speaker 4: and eighths and the you know, inconsistencies with Garrett, I

883
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Speaker 4: think that's what ruined it with his introgram is that

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Speaker 4: he always acted it's kind of condescending towards the fans.

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Speaker 4: And I think the perception is although wrong, that Mike

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Speaker 4: McCarthy is not a very personable guy. I think he

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Speaker 4: has a great sense of humor and engaged us well.

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Speaker 4: But Schottenheimer's on a whole different level in that regard.

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Speaker 4: So you agree, Clarence, I agree, I agree. I mean,

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Speaker 4: and I like Mike McCarthy. I think he he had

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Speaker 4: more personnel and people give me credit. That's what I said.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we had a great relationship with Mike,

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Speaker 5: probably like working with him.

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Speaker 3: Free agency. Pick one guy for the Cowboys that you

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Speaker 3: would franchise right now, franchise you mean to keep on

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Speaker 3: the franchise on franchise t anybody? There's no franchise tag guy.

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Speaker 4: But if you could keep one player off the market.

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Speaker 5: Who Okay, that's two different conversations. Franchise, tag anybody.

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Speaker 2: Now you just mean one player. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: lose the free agency, correct.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 7: I go back and forth on this because I have

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Speaker 7: problems paying a thirty one year old slack corner when

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Speaker 7: I have defensive tackles and defensive tackles who can who

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Speaker 7: I think can help.

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Speaker 2: I probably try to keep a Digga ZOOI.

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Speaker 4: That's why I would, even.

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Speaker 2: Though I love Jordan Lewis, I'd be like, hey, I

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Speaker 2: could get him back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you really want him back, you can pay

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Speaker 4: him back.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I would do, because it's hard to

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Speaker 7: find young, big people who can play.

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Speaker 6: I'm I would have said old Diggi zoo as well.

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Speaker 6: I want to keep Jordan Lewis though, uh and again,

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Speaker 6: and that's just it. And we keep talking about the market,

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Speaker 6: and everybody's talking about ghosting as well. And I don't

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Speaker 6: know what kind of market they're all gonna have. I mean,

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Speaker 6: we we think we overrate everybody here, right. Uh, Jordan

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Speaker 6: is at his age and coming off those injuries. Do

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Speaker 6: you really think he's gonna have a robust market that's

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Speaker 6: gonna pay him big money?

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Speaker 2: Now, but here's the deal, Can you give me a

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Speaker 2: respectable deal?

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Speaker 13: No?

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Speaker 2: I agree, year, can you offer me three million of

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Speaker 2: the year not one point?

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Speaker 5: No, no, I agree.

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Speaker 6: But my point is there a lot of people think

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Speaker 6: they can be priced out. I don't know that everybody's

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Speaker 6: gonna be priced out, you know, and I don't know

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Speaker 6: what is gonna get.

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Speaker 5: I mean, listen, is great.

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Speaker 4: Look at all the guys they lost on the defensive

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Speaker 4: line last year that are playing pretty well.

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Speaker 5: But the only one that got decent money was Durrance

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Speaker 5: and he got like five millions six million a year.

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Speaker 4: I mean, why didn't they keep them?

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Speaker 5: But that's a whole different conversation.

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Speaker 4: I'm just why didn't they keep them?

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Speaker 5: And Dante they get big money?

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Speaker 6: Exactly, I agree, But my point is that I think

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Speaker 6: they can bring somebody's guys back.

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Speaker 4: But will they do they?

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Speaker 5: That's the whole different conversation.

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Speaker 3: Next time we have this mash jock, who's the head

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Speaker 3: coach of the Dallas Cowboys?

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Speaker 2: And now I'm just playing shoddy.

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Speaker 3: Next time we have this show, who's the head coach

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Speaker 3: of the Dallas Cowboy?

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Speaker 4: Are we all going to give the same answer just

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Speaker 4: like we did on Who's the one guy you cant

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Speaker 4: to keep off? For?

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Speaker 7: I was gonna say Witting because they can't get they

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Speaker 7: can't get a deal done with Shoddy for the right money,

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Speaker 7: so they hire Witting.

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Speaker 4: So who are you picking? I'll say Kellen Moore.

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Speaker 2: That's this But he said next see he won't be

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Speaker 2: the coach by by the next show.

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Speaker 4: Well, well this is the question is who's going to

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Speaker 4: be the next coach?

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Speaker 5: You're right?

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Speaker 6: Just for the record, I'll be at the Senior Bowl

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Speaker 6: next Wednesday, So y'all have to do this what I mean, oh.

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Speaker 3: Finish, finishing. I'll go with Brian Shott. Now, okay, all

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Speaker 3: points to to Shoddy getting this job at this point

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Speaker 3: in time, and unless Jerry pull some really really by

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Speaker 3: the way, you wild welcome.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned Rich Passatsia last and he's not as we

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Speaker 4: as far as we know, gotten an interview of any kind.

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Speaker 4: But there are certainly people in this building who think

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Speaker 4: a lot of them and think he's capable of being there.

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Speaker 3: Look, he brings substance.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm gonna say Shoddy because if the thing don't

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Speaker 6: work with Shoddy, I mean, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 5: You give him a second interview? All this momentum going

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Speaker 5: and he's paid a.

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Speaker 4: Lot of money to fly him in or something like

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Speaker 4: he was in his office probably anyway.

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Speaker 5: I understand that. But they're doing a second interview. He's

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Speaker 5: the only one who's gotten the second interview so far.

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Speaker 6: The momentum is building towards Shot. And now if he

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Speaker 6: don't get the job, then something broke down.

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Speaker 4: All right, well something broke down to McArthur didn't get

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Speaker 4: the job. What about if they go into this and

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Speaker 4: the next weekend, Dion's here to watch his son's play

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Speaker 4: in the East West Shrine Bowl at AT and T Stadium.

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Speaker 4: We start seeing all this video of Dion and Jerry

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Speaker 4: together in a football environment and Shot he hadn't been higher,

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Speaker 4: and Kellen Morrise coaching in the Super Bowl. What are

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Speaker 4: we gonna think about all that?

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Speaker 5: Does it get this done before Friday?

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Speaker 10: Man?

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Speaker 14: Right?

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