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Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein's here, How goes it? Not bad? Ty, I'm

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Speaker 3: Now we know who is playing in the College Triple

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Speaker 3: National Championship Game on Monday the ninth. TCU Congratulations, you

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I just I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: Like I've said, you've put together some pretty racy choreography

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Speaker 2: I forgot about this that when we previewedia t Georgia

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Speaker 2: excuse me, Georgia, Ohio State and TCU Michigan in promoting

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Speaker 2: you can get apologies right that we disrespected TCU collectively.

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Speaker 3: Listen it, listen wire to wire. There's a whole TCU

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Speaker 2: We have not even gone there. I didn't want to Jason.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want Jenson because you can make a really

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Speaker 2: take credit for this because that's what I do. You're

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Speaker 2: but yeah, TCU makes it through.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk about the TCU win. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: talk about the Georgia winn. We're gonna talk about a

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Speaker 2: Why did you just want to jump right into this thing?

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Speaker 1: More for the people.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it. Nay, what happen?

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Speaker 3: Why don't we art with Georgia forty two, Ohio State

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Speaker 3: games played on New Year's Rock and Eve. Dan in

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Speaker 3: We can talk about that game next. But I felt

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Ohio State with the benefit of an offensive

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Speaker 2: And what Georgia was able to do shifting their own

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Speaker 3: They've got so much out Why that Georgia debt that

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Speaker 3: We saw it obviously in key moments last season. We

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Speaker 3: We've seen stets and Bennett come through time and again

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Speaker 2: There were some questionable calls that maybe we can go through.

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Speaker 2: We blew it. We played a good team in TCU,

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Speaker 3: But they put Michigan in a situation where Michigan had

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Speaker 2: I don't have the words, but yes, you are right

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Speaker 2: or not what do your best five throws look like?

436
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 2: It's what does your ninth best throw look like? What

437
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 2: does your sixth worst throw look like? What does that

438
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 2: meaty middle look like in the collection of throws that

439
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 2: you put on tape in a high, high leverage game. Yeah,

440
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,479
Speaker 2: and so that's the problem to me, that Max Duggan

441
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 2: was better able to meet the moment every time he

442
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 2: had to throw a pass.

443
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 3: I mean, JJ McCarthy had a really good game here. Yeah,

444
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 3: he had a really good game here, save for a

445
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 3: couple moments that sure we could say he did show

446
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 3: some youth. He has not been in these situations before,

447
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 3: so he brought Michigan to a point where they could

448
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 3: have won but didn't. It isn't all on him, but

449
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 3: some of the mistakes are and it made it much

450
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,239
Speaker 3: much harder for Michigan to get back in this thing.

451
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 3: But where I wanted to go with that is the

452
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 3: running game. Save for three big runs really on the

453
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 3: Michigan side, the fifty four yarder to open up the

454
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 3: game from Donovan Edwards, JJ McCarthy had a long like

455
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 3: forty yard or thirty nine yarder excuse me.

456
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: At another point in the game.

457
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 3: Roman Wilson also had a nice play when he was

458
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 3: handed the ball and went for a touchdown on his

459
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 3: only carry. But outside of those three carries, which went

460
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 3: for one hundred and eleven yards, this Michigan ground game

461
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 3: only went for about two yards of carry two yards

462
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 3: of carry, So TCU very much bucked the trend that

463
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 3: we identified when we tried to preview this thing. Like

464
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 3: a week ago, the trend was that, well, TCU's line

465
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 3: is going to get pushed around here. Michigan's done it

466
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 3: to a bunch of teams, a bunch of teams, and

467
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 3: TCU on paper did not appear as if they'd have

468
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 3: any chance here. They showed flashes with what they did.

469
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 3: They showed flashes, but a lot of the flashes that

470
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 3: they that they showed the season were in the secondary,

471
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,160
Speaker 3: and we talked a lot just about, ah, wow, look

472
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 3: like the secondary is playing better then you might expect.

473
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 3: There were, you know, specific moments, specific games a season

474
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 3: where we called out the TCU secondary for playing really

475
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 3: good football, but up front flashes here and there, But

476
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 3: this wasn't on paper that they would have this kind

477
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: of an effort. I don't know if it was the

478
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 3: three three five, I don't know what it was from

479
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 3: the TCU front that got the job done, but definitely

480
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 3: the trend, at least early, and let's be fair, throughout

481
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 3: most of the game was TCU was able to stop

482
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 3: that ground assault, and they were able to do so

483
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 3: by playing really really solid football up front. In the

484
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,719
Speaker 3: second half, there was that play. There was a very

485
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 3: frenetic sequence of events that we should probably mention here.

486
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 3: As Michigan is trying to go down, they're trying to

487
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 3: drive the field to trying to win this thing. There's

488
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 3: a play that it still looked like an illegal forward

489
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 3: pass to me. I have not gone through and really

490
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 3: broken down the tape on whether it was or wasn't,

491
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 3: But there was a moment where it looked as if

492
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 3: there was a targeting foul that could have extended the drive.

493
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 3: Targeting foul against TCU that could have extended the drive

494
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 3: for Michigan to give them more of an opportunity, basically

495
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 3: a lifeline. Because it was on fourth down. That's why

496
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 3: it got as fernetic as it did the first place. Yeah,

497
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: they went back to the tape, they checked it out.

498
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 3: The replay officials decided it wasn't targeting targeting to me.

499
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 3: But there were plenty of other calls that were very

500
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 3: dubious throughout the course of the game, not the least

501
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: of which is what Michigan decided to do in the

502
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 3: red zone. Now, if we're talking about dubious calls, we

503
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 3: can also lump those in as well.

504
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: That was nic Michigan knew. Michigan knew coming into this game.

505
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: We got to be way better in the red zone.

506
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: It's not a new phenomenon for the Wolverines to struggle

507
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 2: in plus territory, to struggle inside the forty, inside the twenty,

508
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: inside the ten, that has been hampering them all year.

509
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: And with the added benefit of time, they still overthought

510
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: things in the two three weeks they had to do

511
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 2: so with that call early with you know, not just

512
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 2: lining up and giving it Donovan Edwards or whoever in

513
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 2: that moment, I gut you have a full back, but

514
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: just the inability to execute in those huge moments. By

515
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: the way, as I digress as well, how about.

516
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: The TCU offensive line.

517
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: The TCU offensive line to me was the real weakness

518
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: and the real opportunity for Michigan to take advantage of

519
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: the frogs. We've seen Max Duggan running for his life

520
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: a lot this year and making plays while doing so.

521
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: But it did not seem like the strength to me

522
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: of this TCU team. The offensive line and for them

523
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: to hold the edge like they did and obvious passing

524
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: downs and opening up lanes when needed. That caught me.

525
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: I'll speak for myself personally. That caught me by surprise.

526
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: I thought that was going to be the opportunity, and

527
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 2: I guess that underscore something we talked about earlier on

528
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: in the season. We were sort of evaluating Michigan is

529
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 2: saying they look strong on defense, they look like they're

530
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 2: improving and forming an identity on offense, But what does

531
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: this defensive line look like without special players in the

532
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: way that David excuse me, Aiden Hutchinson and David o'jabo

533
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 2: are and were last year. Were those difference makers against

534
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 2: Ohio State. Less so against Georgia, but that was a

535
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: difference to me that when we talk about special players

536
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: needed and winter wonders needed, when you get into late

537
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: December early January, it's the receivers who are special. Obviously

538
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: quarterback goes without saying, but it's the receivers that are

539
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: gravitational forces that disrupt everything a defense wants to do,

540
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 2: and the edge rushers, slash pass rush in general that

541
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: if you don't have special players there, it's going to

542
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: change a lot. Against an excellent team. I think Michigan

543
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: is very good players there, but we saw them have

544
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 2: to adjust because they couldn't get home in the way

545
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: that last year's ends could get home.

546
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 3: One sack in this game yeah, you compare that to

547
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 3: the four that TCU had again, something else that didn't

548
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: really jump out on paper as of a scenario that

549
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: would play out in the semifinal. But alas congratulations TCU. Unbelievable, unbelievable,

550
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: unbelievable story, the miracle run for Sunny Dykes, for Max

551
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 3: dug In, for this group of guys who I've joked

552
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: and said many times over have been their while the

553
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 3: fact that they get to play in this game now

554
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: is pretty cool. Now we will talk and do time

555
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 3: about what they are up against them. The Georgia front

556
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 3: Vegas has them right now is about a thirteen and

557
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: a half point dog, which feels right to me that

558
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 3: said would not want to bet on Georgia, just would

559
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 3: not want to bet on Georgia. Not with the way

560
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 3: that TCU has played all season. There is definitely a

561
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: bit of pixie dust and magic that is working hold

562
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 3: in Fort Worth.

563
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: What do you say line is like thirteen fourteen points? Yeah, yeah,

564
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: So the idea of TCU forget winning this game, the

565
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: idea of TCU forget even making the playoff, and obviously

566
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: they don't ultimately win the Big twelve, but having even

567
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 2: a double digit win season, say they only go ten

568
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: to two eleven and one credible?

569
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: Right?

570
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: The idea now of TCU in the National Championship game

571
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: after the depths to which they fell last year, especially

572
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: on defense, and having bringing in a good coach in

573
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: Sunny Dykes irrefutably a good coach at his absolute worst.

574
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: Now we can say be a really great coach, bringing

575
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: in the staff he brings in, bringing in the system,

576
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: he brings in. Losing his starting quarterback early on. It

577
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: bucks every trend that we've seen with regard to what

578
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: a playoff team is right, that a coach has to

579
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: be there for a certain amount of time, that a

580
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: coach has to correct the errors he made in hiring

581
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: assistance or getting two three, four five recruiting classes under

582
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: his belt to really get the buy in from the

583
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: roster top to bottom. It bucks everything we've seen in

584
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: the playoff if not the BCS era, And you know

585
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: Gus malsan is, you know, he gets them to this game,

586
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: gets Auburn to this game in twenty of the BCS

587
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: Championship game and it was the twenty thirteen season, I

588
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: want to say, and they lose to Florida State. But

589
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: he had been there, it was an offensive coordinator, familiar

590
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: and obviously having a special talent in Nick Marshall.

591
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: Whatever.

592
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: But in terms of a first year coach with a

593
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: team down as much as they were in this current system,

594
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 2: beating number two Michigan, I don't want to say it's

595
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: an anomaly. I just think TCU is that special to

596
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: accomplish it. It's so crazy.

597
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 3: Well, there is a lot that we will unpack as

598
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: we look forward into that National Championship game. On the

599
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: Michigan side, on the Ohio State side, no doubt there'll

600
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: be plenty of hand ringing there as well. There have

601
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 3: been all sorts of reports that Jim Harball may not

602
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: be done looking to the NFL. There is an opportunity,

603
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: I think for him on a couple different fronts, be

604
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: it the Colts team that he used to play for,

605
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: the Broncos obviously looking for a coach given the way

606
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: that that season went. You know, many folks who are

607
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 3: more connected than you and I in the coaching world

608
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: seem to think that those rumors hold a little bit

609
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: of weight. So we'll see if that's something that comes

610
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 3: to fruition that could obviously shape the future state of

611
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: Michigan football Brian Day has also been rumored to the NFL.

612
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: So I saw that Ryan Day did. He told I

613
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: think Kirk harp Street in leading up to the game

614
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: that he's no longer going to be calling plays for

615
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: Ohio State, so which I think is smart. I think

616
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: he's a really, really great offensive mind. But at a

617
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: certain point you have to delegate, and you have to

618
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: sort of focus on as much big picture as you

619
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: can and not get bogged down at times. It's really tough.

620
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: It's really tough to sort of manage a game and

621
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: manage the fine details of play to play offense. But

622
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: the hardbot thing is fascinating. He said he would enthusiastically

623
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: be back.

624
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three.

625
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: We rolled our eyes at that. You and I we

626
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 3: rolled our eyes at that. I roll mas, I know,

627
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 3: I roll maz at that. I remember when that happened,

628
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 3: when he was enthusiastically back, and I remember on one

629
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: of our offseason podcasts talking about it and being shouted

630
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 3: down from Michigan folks who either saw the YouTube video

631
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: or listen to the show and said, wow, come on,

632
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: you know, he said he's back, He's gonna he's in

633
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: this for the long haul, and it just felt to

634
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 3: me like, this is a guy, I mean, he hasn't

635
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: left yet, right, There's an opportunity, I think for him

636
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: to leave, because he was pretty successful at the NFL level.

637
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: If he wants that opportunity, it's it's something that he

638
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: could take. But it just seems to me like, if

639
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: you're a guy like Harball who has a long track

640
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 3: record of not staying in one place for too long

641
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: of a time, that the NFL bug, the opportunity to

642
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: go back and maybe try to win a Super Bowl

643
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 3: was going to be too much to ignore at some point, Right.

644
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: And even though we kind of put that to bed

645
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: before the start of the season and had a great

646
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: run with Michigan this year, the opportunities are still there.

647
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: Whatever happened in that Vikings interview is not keeping other

648
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 3: teams away. They are still going to be interested if

649
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 3: they think they can help them win.

650
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: So we'll find out there. There haven't been reports that

651
00:32:54,320 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 2: have included from Harbaugh's camp quote zero shot, right. There

652
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: haven't been reports that have included quotes like that. I

653
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: hope Jim Harbaugh stays at Michigan. I like Jim harbought Michigan.

654
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Speaker 2: It's fun for me to watch. It's a good thing

655
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: for the sport to have Jim harbought Michigan and have

656
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Speaker 2: Michigan be competitive on this level. But yeah, that's sort

657
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: of a reality. And can't wait to see what Ohio

658
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: State does moving forward. I'm thrilled and hope that Penn

659
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: State and hopefully Wisconsin under Luke Fickle and you know,

660
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Speaker 2: we get USC and UCLA shortly into the Big Ten,

661
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Speaker 2: but I am hopeful that the top of the Big

662
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: Ten gets to be even more competitive at the top.

663
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Speaker 2: That would be That would be incredible, That'd be a

664
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Speaker 2: great story.

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Speaker 3: So much more to come on that front. Again, we

666
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Speaker 3: will be doing a rather ambitious preview episode details to come,

667
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Speaker 3: which will drop a little bit later to the feed

668
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Speaker 3: on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I believe that's the plan. Yes, that is the plan.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so check your feeds a little bit later on

671
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Speaker 3: on Thursday for Ballers dot Com will include as much

672
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Speaker 3: of the bonus stuff as we can, but a little

673
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Speaker 3: bit of a different recording schedule with us excuse me

674
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: going to the West coast. Don't forget if you're coming

675
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 3: into town for the game. Sliverblelive dot Com come and

676
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Speaker 3: see us, Dan.

677
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Speaker 2: Yes, we'll try to. We're gonna do a Q and

678
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: A though together, are we not? We want to do

679
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: that Friday morning. We'll figure something out what we're gonna

680
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: do something. We'll do a bruine on Verballers dot Com

681
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: because you'll be in town. So it's always fun to

682
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 2: do in person show something like that together. But yeah,

683
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: can't wait. Cannot wait.

684
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Speaker 3: As for some of the other action, Dan, maybe we

685
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Speaker 3: can do a quick zoom through some of some of

686
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 3: the other Bowl games and talks about what jumped out

687
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: to us. We talked a lot about the Alabama case

688
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 3: State game, the Sugar Bowl matchup, because it was intriguing

689
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: to us. We were curious about well Alabama care early on,

690
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 3: Early on, Bama kind of didn't care. And the funny story,

691
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: at least on this end, is that I had a

692
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Speaker 3: tweet drafted up and I was going to make the

693
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Speaker 3: joke I al just hit send on the joke that

694
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: Alabama was playing like it adopted out as a team, right,

695
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: almost hit send, and then and then I was like,

696
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 3: you know what, let's see what happens.

697
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: On this drive.

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Speaker 1: Let's give it a minute.

699
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see what happens on the drive. Bama had

700
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: the ball.

701
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: Next play, Jamiir Gibbs catches like a sixty yard pass,

702
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Speaker 3: They go down, they score.

703
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 2: After that, they go on a thirty five point run.

704
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: They put the game out of reach early in the

705
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Speaker 2: third quarter.

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Speaker 3: Glad I did not hit send. Thank you, good for you,

707
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Speaker 3: Thank you to whatever whatever came to me in that

708
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 3: moment prevented me from hitting send. Bryce Young five touchdown

709
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 3: passes decided to play in this game. Didn't look great early,

710
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: looked a lot better later. And the five touchdowns I

711
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 3: think were a Bowl record and a school record in

712
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Speaker 3: a bowl for an Alabama quarterback.

713
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Speaker 2: He's like something like fifteen yards per attempt. Yeah, he

714
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 2: was absolutely lethal over the course of this game.

715
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: Figured it out outside that first quarter, which wasn't great,

716
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,479
Speaker 3: but Bama did Bama things outside of a really long

717
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: run Reduce Vaughan an eighty eight yard touchdown run which

718
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 3: got everybody going on Twitter and talking about what case

719
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: date might look like here if they win the Sugar Bowl.

720
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Speaker 3: Outside of that, he had forty five yards and twenty

721
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Speaker 3: one carries, pretty much completely bottled up by a very

722
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Speaker 3: good defense. Two picks for Will Howard on the Case

723
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Speaker 3: States side, they were just outclassed. Bamba was the better team.

724
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Speaker 3: Bama was mostly at full strength here, you know, with

725
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: a couple of notable exceptions, and got the job done

726
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 3: forty five to twenty in the Sugar Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not much of a game after the first quarter. No,

728
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 2: Gama had way better players, faster players, angrier players, stronger players.

729
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: Case State still an incredible year, incredible story, Will Howard

730
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: stepping through or stepping forward as a very good quarterback,

731
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: great story. Alabama's a better team, demonstrably so. And they

732
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 2: cared verdict care they definitely cared.

733
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Speaker 3: Tennessee wins thirty one to fourteen over Clemson in the

734
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Speaker 3: Orange Bowl. They played this one on December thirtieth, so

735
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Speaker 3: Friday evening. A frustrating game to watch, I'd say, if

736
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 3: you're Clemson fan, yeah, I'd say so. Clemson got the

737
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: ball seven times in the first half, they got inside

738
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Speaker 3: Tennessee territory all seven times, they got to the Vols

739
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: twenty five on four trips. All told, they came away

740
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: with three points. Three points. Just a lot of missed

741
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: opportunities for Clemson here. Dan I was kind of transfixed

742
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: by Joe Milton's arm strength. You know, I love a

743
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 3: quarterback who throws every pass at five hundred miles an hour.

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Speaker 1: I'm in on Joe.

745
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: Milton every path.

746
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Speaker 3: I was absolutely transfixed at how far he can throw

747
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 3: the ball just by a little wrist flip.

748
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little risk flip. He was good in this game.

749
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Speaker 3: But the story, the prevailing, i think theme of this game,

750
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Speaker 3: outside of the fact that Tennessee looked pretty good, was

751
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: the fact that Clemson probably would have won this game

752
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: if not for all the missed opportunities. There were just

753
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 3: so many of them.

754
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: I'd probably be a bicycle if I had wheels. So

755
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 2: good for Clemson, I am, I truly And I don't

756
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: know if Joe Milton fits this to a t because

757
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: I think he's a little bit different. But the archetype

758
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: of the big bomber, right that, like you go back

759
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: to Asu, like Rudy Carpenter and Sam Keller, we're just like,

760
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: it's not gonna move around a ton And Joe Milton

761
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: can move a little bit for sure, And you saw

762
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: how Michigan used him, and I his ability to run

763
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 2: pales in comparison to his ability to vomit. And it's

764
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: such a it's a perfect place for him, and you

765
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 2: can see why Josh Hipel turned to him initially before

766
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 2: Hendon Hooker took over when Milton got hurt, because his

767
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: potential for just as you said, flipping his wrist and

768
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: it ending up seventy one yards downfield, if he's accurate

769
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: and continues to look like in the moments that you

770
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: know he was accurate in the back of the end

771
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: zone for a touchdown for tennessee that the ceiling is

772
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 2: quite high. It's more it's going to be more of

773
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: an accuracy thing and more of the throttling back when

774
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: you need to throttle back on a key third and

775
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 2: seven and you don't want to decapitate a receiver wearing

776
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: the same color uniform you're wearing. So yes, it was

777
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 2: an incredibly frustrating game. If you're a Clemson fan, I

778
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: don't think they have special receivers. I think Will Shipley

779
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 2: can be pretty special. And it's Kate Klubnick's essentially first

780
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: game starting, even though he took over in the a

781
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: SEC Championship game. So he throws a couple picks and

782
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: he struggles at times to look downfield and connect. But

783
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: no story to me is Tennessee, which had kind of

784
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: every reason not to care opening up is number one

785
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 2: in the College Football playoff rankings. Losing Hendon Hooker, losing

786
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: the way they did to Georgia have every right to

787
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: be demoralized and for them to come out and really

788
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: lock in. And I thought the defensive game plan of

789
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: just get after Kate Clubnick and see what happens. I

790
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: thought that was super sound. So the Tennessee offseason hype machine,

791
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: Oh is it greased and ready to roll? That's ready, baby.

792
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

793
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: It was good to see Tennessee play as well as

794
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: they did. Thought. I thought Tennessee looked really solid in

795
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: this game, and you know, they gave Clemson opportunities. Tennessee's

796
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: defense has not been a shutdown defense all season. They've

797
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: been good against the run at times. They've they've had

798
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 2: their moments, but it's not like a great defense that

799
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: we thought was gonna they can get. They can get

800
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 2: a secondary together, yeah, a full and complete secondary. There's

801
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: something that it's the Oklahoma thing from years past. Just

802
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: marginal improvement. Marginal improvement defensively makes them much more of

803
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: a force as send to average, just send to have

804
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: thank you. Yeah, big win Tennessee in the Orange Bowl.

805
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: Let's zoom through some of the other games play. Speaking

806
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 2: of missed opportunities on offense, Iowa twenty one, Kentucky zero. Well, sure, well,

807
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: sure you're going to say, well, yes, you shut out

808
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: a team by three touchdowns, not converting a single third

809
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: down with your third string quarterback, that's that's a weird thing.

810
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: But when your clunkers tied, to say, when you're clunkers.

811
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 2: This game was about as terrible as expected. The points spread, well,

812
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: the over under was thirty one and a half, so

813
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: Vegas knew, we all knew. I confidently bet the under

814
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: in this game. I knew it wasn't even close. Oh well,

815
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: never in doubt, never in doubt.

816
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 3: The tweet of the day was from our friend Roger

817
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 3: Sherman uh huh, who said that Iowa winning despite going

818
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: zero for eleven on third downs might be the crowning

819
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 3: achievement in the Kirk Farens era. And congratulations to any

820
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 3: and all members of the staff.

821
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: You deserve a raise. Yeah, I want to win this year.

822
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: Iowa won without completing a third down attempt. They won

823
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 2: eight games with what I consider to be the worst

824
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: Power five offense because of how good their defense is

825
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: and how many opportunities and leads the defense can give

826
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: the offense to win eight games with the relative worst

827
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Speaker 2: Power five offense. Roger nailed it. Yes, what an achievement.

828
00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: This is Kirk Farence on chopped trying to put together. Yeah,

829
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 2: a good team by any kin of a good season. Yeah,

830
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 2: with a very very obvious thing that just is going

831
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: to make that hard to do the offense. Yeah, it's

832
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 2: it's going on shopped and saying, here are Dorito's and

833
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: Candlewax make a Thanksgiving turkey And he kind of did.

834
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Speaker 3: Kind of, Man, what can we say? It wasn't pretty,

835
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 3: but kind of did it. Kentucky, by the way, was

836
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 3: dreadful on offense, just two of eighteen on third downs,

837
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 3: which means two for twenty nine on third downs in

838
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 3: this football game.

839
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 2: Tyet's darkest before the Dawn. And here come Liam Collen

840
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: and Devin Leary to turn things around in Lexington, which.

841
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: They probably will. We'll see, all right, some other games

842
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 3: here that will zoom through Notre Dame forty five, South

843
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: Carolina thirty eight.

844
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: You watch this game at all, He just zoomed through

845
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: it very quickly. After the fact I was traveling during

846
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: this game. This game was fun as hell. It was

847
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 2: fun as hell good.

848
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,479
Speaker 3: Notre Dame was down four team they won despite South

849
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: Carolina scoring on two interception returns, two picked sixes, and

850
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: then on another trick play on special teams. Tyler Buckner

851
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 3: got to start for Notre Dame. Was very consequential. Let's say,

852
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: in this football game there were eleven touchdowns. Eleven touchdowns

853
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: in total. He accounted in some way, shape or form

854
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 3: for seven of them. Seven of them two went the

855
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 3: other way, but five went.

856
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 1: For his team.

857
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 3: Three touchdowns through the air, two on the ground. Showcases

858
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 3: legs a little bit consequential to say the least, A

859
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 3: good game to watch, even if you didn't have a

860
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 3: dog in the fight.

861
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: I was.

862
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: Maximally entertained in this football game, to say the least.

863
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: I wish Notre Dame would have. Well, I always wish

864
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: for more than Notre Dame front some biased but so.

865
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 2: No, they're down what two defensive linemen Fosky and somebody

866
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: else Notre Dame.

867
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: Well, I mean Fosky is a big one obviously, Yeah,

868
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: of course, and so the fact that they would give

869
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 3: up points is not that did not come as a

870
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 3: surprise to.

871
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 2: Me, but they adjusted well. They were getting after Spencer

872
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: Rattler after South Carolina looked strong early.

873
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 3: That is correct, So I thought all told a really

874
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 3: good showing for Notre Dame. I cannot tell you how

875
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: refreshing it was to see an offense that was not

876
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 3: entirely dependent on Michael mahyor Michael Mayer wasn't even.

877
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: In this game.

878
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: No, but that is the way that they played this

879
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: season because they had to. Right, Drew Pine only had

880
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: eyes for Michael Mahyer and then everything else was pretty

881
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 3: much a handoff to Audric Estimey or Logan Diggs or

882
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: somebody else. That was the way that they played this

883
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 3: entire season.

884
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 2: Because so do you think it's a much cleaner win,

885
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 2: like it's a twenty eight to fourteen win if Michael

886
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 2: Mayer and Drew Pine starts this name. I have no idea,

887
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: because there's a lot not to like about Notre Dame's

888
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: offense from this year. But it didn't seem like Drew

889
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: Pine had many three interception games.

890
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 3: No, No, because they learned that they had to play

891
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: very conservatively with them. Yeah, they learned that they had

892
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 3: to play very conservatively, and you know, they adjusted as

893
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 3: best they could, and I thought obviously turned into a

894
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 3: pretty good showing this season, albeit limited on offense, a

895
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 3: lot of pickleball stuff, right, Yeah, so it was very

896
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: refreshing as a fan to not have to watch that.

897
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 3: And I thought Tyler Buckner was was good. There were

898
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 3: definite moments of rust. The pick sixes weren't great. That

899
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 3: being said Sam apartment, full field, full field, right. If

900
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 3: Sam Hartman decides he wants to come to South Bend

901
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 3: and play next season, ready to take him aboard, Ready

902
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 3: to take him aboard most like a heart.

903
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: Clip like the famed, famed Lady Band for all Sam

904
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: Hartman moments for Notre Dame.

905
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: Or wait till the thing is dried?

906
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 3: What we got to wait for the ink to be

907
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 3: dried because things change very quickly in college football, as

908
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 3: you know. But Tyler Buckner looked good all things considered.

909
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: Love to him.

910
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: Have Sam Hartmon next year. I don't think Tyler Buckner

911
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 2: is the guy that's going to get them to like

912
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: the next level. And this is coming from somebody who's

913
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: very high on Tyler Buckner. But yeah, I just I

914
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: I felt better watching this game. I just don't think

915
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: he's the guy. I'll take Sam Hartman. Okay, good day

916
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: for Notre Dame and day I don't think anybody decommitted

917
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 2: from Notre Dame during the game. No, that's another win. Yeah,

918
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: nice way to finish out the season. Nice story, I

919
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: suppose for Tyler Buckner, who you know, had to recuperate

920
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: from that injury all season long and gets the w

921
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: despite some some less than stellar play at moments. But yeah,

922
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: good for Notre Dame to finish out and get better

923
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: over the course of a bowl game and win some

924
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: other games.

925
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 3: Here we had Pit thirty seven UCLA thirty five no

926
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: Zach Sharbonay no Zach Sharbonay dtr did not look great.

927
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 3: A lot of mistakes for UCLA, five turnovers, the combination

928
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 3: of the turnovers with you know, just some weird special

929
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: team plays as well for UCLA. Too much to overcome.

930
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 3: Pitt gets the dub here thirty seven thirty five Dan A.

931
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 2: Lot of special teams, miss cues, a lot of kick

932
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 2: miss cues for UCLA. It did a really nice job.

933
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: Kid was without It's you know, a number of key

934
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 2: players themselves, and they did a really nice job of

935
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 2: stopping Ucla. On the ground, obviously confusing dtr who has

936
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 2: been turnover prone these past few weeks. Kind of disappointing

937
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 2: five years with Chip Kelly, five years in the system,

938
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 2: and didn't really finish it on a high note. But yeah,

939
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: at least it wasn't a three to nothing Sun Bowl

940
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 2: and you get a feisty, fiery pat and Ar Doozy

941
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 2: comeback win into the off season and Nick Patty dub

942
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 2: all things I was not expecting. I thought this was

943
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 2: a nice setup for UCL even without Zach Sharbonnet. But

944
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: good for Pitt for coming back in this game and

945
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 2: being nails in the face of what looked to be defeat.

946
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: Minnesota wins over Syracuse twenty eight to twenty mo. Ibraheim

947
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 3: with a strong performance here. Yeah, has really been the

948
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 3: story all year. He set a school record for rushing

949
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 3: attempts and finished with the fifth most rushing touchdowns in

950
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 3: Big Ten history.

951
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: So good for him. Oh, by the way, also Minnesota's

952
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 2: all time leading rusher. So Minnesota's all time leading rusher.

953
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: I think it was right at College Football who mentioned

954
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: that there are six or seven teams who've won at

955
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 2: least nine games the past you know, four or five

956
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: seasons or something like that, and it's like Clemson, Alabama

957
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: all these and then Minnesota, So Skayama.

958
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 3: Skayama, Florida State thirty five thirty two. Fun game actually,

959
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: despite being like a ten point line in favor of

960
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 3: Florida State, almost eleven hundred total yards, We had four

961
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 3: lead changes in the second half.

962
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: A big day passing for Jordan Travis, who will be back.

963
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 2: I love this game. Yeah, great game, four hundred and

964
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: eighteen yards for him.

965
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 3: A really nice grab for Johnny Wilson who had a

966
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 3: long touchdown pass one touchdown reception fifty eight yarder. The

967
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 3: Florida State defensive front was solid, at least in the

968
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 3: passing game. They had something like six sacks.

969
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 2: And the Sooners man the Sooners put up much more.

970
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 3: Of a fight than I thought. They led early, they

971
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 3: led at the start of the fourth quarter, they were

972
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: down something like four offensive linemen and they still rush

973
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: for two hundred and fifty some odd yards and three touchdowns.

974
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 3: So a lot more fight from Oklahoma than expected here

975
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 3: in what amounted to a very good football game.

976
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: I liked Oklahoma turning too and getting a lot from

977
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 2: its youth on offense. I thought Dylan Gabriel was really

978
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: really good. He was confident, he was making plays on

979
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: and off platform, he was going downfield successfully. I thought

980
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: he had a really good game against the Florida State

981
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 2: defense that has been inconsistent this year, but a really

982
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: nice back and forth game for both of these teams.

983
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: Oklahoma did actually a pretty good job against I think

984
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 2: Trey Benson didn't really get going on the ground for

985
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: Florida State. It was much more Jordan Travis, who will

986
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: be firmly entrenched in the Heisman conversation next year. Speaking

987
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: of like the ten Sea hype train, Florida State has

988
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 2: to be really good next year. They absolutely have to be.

989
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 2: I'm not positive on who's back at every single position.

990
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: With their depth chart, looks like I saw that they

991
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 2: got just got a big with the Virginia the heralded

992
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 2: Virginia corner just committed to Florida State. I believe to

993
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: fortify that secondary Florida State should be in a very

994
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 2: very good place next season. And for them to pull

995
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 2: out this game was impressive. Oklahoma, as you mentioned, fought

996
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: really hard and made plays on both sides of the ball.

997
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was Johnny Wilson getting loose it was

998
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 2: the offense ultimately being a little bit too much for

999
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: a Sooner. Defense still has a ways to go, but

1000
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: I was I had a good time watching this game.

1001
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 3: Washington beat Texas yep in the Al Mobole looks a

1002
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 3: little bit closer than it was. So the final was

1003
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: twenty seven to twenty, but Texas scored ten points later on.

1004
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 3: They weren't able to recover it on so I kick.

1005
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 3: Washington ends up winning the game. They could not run

1006
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 3: without Jean Robinson or Roshawn Johnson now and Quinn youw

1007
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 3: Weers threw the ball close to fifty times. Sarks said

1008
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 3: after the game that was basically the game playing all along.

1009
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 3: They knew they were going to have to do that,

1010
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 3: and it's not like he was bad. The real issue

1011
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 3: was really just the Texas defense. Washington had a lot

1012
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: of success, particularly in extending drives. They were eleven of

1013
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 3: twenty on third downs. They had the ball for about

1014
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: eleven and a half more minutes than Texas did, and

1015
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 3: they had a bunch of long drives. Five possessions of

1016
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 3: ten plays or more for the Huskies. So you take

1017
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 3: that all in tandem with a pretty good game for

1018
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 3: Michael Pennix who finds ways to make plays twenty seven

1019
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 3: to twenty the Huskies win a big season in eleven

1020
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 3: and two, big season year one for Kaitlin de boor.

1021
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: Big season four.

1022
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 2: Looking back at the last guy, Oh, that doesn't reflect

1023
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 2: well and Gary Patterson doesn't reflect well on Jimmy Lake. Now, no,

1024
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 2: Michael Penis was not the starting quarterback for Washington last year,

1025
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 2: but eleven and two year one? How many double digit

1026
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 2: win teams did the Pac twelve finish with? And I

1027
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 2: think UCLA would have made six, So they're gonna have

1028
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: five USC Washington, Oregon, Utah, Oregon State, and if UCLA

1029
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 2: doesn't blow the.

1030
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: Pit game, I mean that's just sort of what UCLA does.

1031
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 2: Though, they would have had six double digit win teams,

1032
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: So good for Washington. I think Pennis it was a

1033
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 2: lot of shorter stuff. They weren't really testing the Washington

1034
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: excuse me, the Texas defense deep a lot of shorter stuff.

1035
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 2: But he was He was accurate. It was pinpoint from

1036
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: from Washington. They had the long run from the Virginia

1037
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: transfer at running back Wayne Tella Papa, I believe, just

1038
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: crazy impressive from Washington. Come out and play like they

1039
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: did even when the defense wasn't there all season long.

1040
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: Another team that you know drafted very closely behind the

1041
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: opportunity truck and just got it done.

1042
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 3: Oregon twenty eight, North Carolina twenty seven. Yeah, a touchdown

1043
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 3: pass with nineteen seconds left, the chase coda get forth

1044
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 3: that dub fourth down gets a dub. Fo Bonix gets

1045
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 3: a dub for Oregon. I guess this game featured a

1046
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 3: little bit more defense than either of us expected. Sweet

1047
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 3: interception by the way by power Echoes. I believe the

1048
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 3: freak one yeah yeah yeah for North Carolina had bounced

1049
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 3: off of one player and then toes of another, and

1050
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 3: power Echos was able to get the I and T there.

1051
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 2: But impressive win here, I thought. Oregon. Yeah, impressive when

1052
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 2: they came out and ran all over North Carolina. Not

1053
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: unexpected given Oregon strength. Bucky Irving I think might have

1054
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 2: been the MVP in this game. I don't know if

1055
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: the holiday bool gives out an MVP, but he ran

1056
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: really well, especially early on. Bo Nix looked a little

1057
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 2: bit tentative at times physically in Oregon without its you know,

1058
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 2: Kenny Dillingham leaves to take the ASU job, not really

1059
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 2: going downfield in the passing game all that much, and

1060
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 2: when they did it actually worked really really well. So

1061
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 2: a nice game from Oregon. Down its best edge rusher,

1062
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: down its best linebacker, and Noah Sewell and Justin Flow

1063
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: had opted out and the rotation guys came to play.

1064
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 2: They sent a lot of pressure at Drake May, who,

1065
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: by the way, Drake May is so good and probably

1066
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 2: should play for somebody else.

1067
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: He is so so, so, so so so good.

1068
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: And it is a little bit of a bummer that

1069
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 2: North Carolina doesn't seem like they're going to fix things

1070
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 2: in a big important playoff ish way anytime soon. But

1071
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: Oregon did a good job, you know, making him think

1072
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 2: a little bit and getting the ball out of his

1073
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: hands quickly. So yeah, a nice day for Oregon and

1074
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: a nice finish for the season as Dan Lanning recruits

1075
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 2: really well and the head into the off season in

1076
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 2: a positive fashion. Let's do a zoom through, Dan, Let's

1077
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: do it.

1078
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 3: Ohio wins in overtime on a forty six yard field goal.

1079
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 3: Well that sent it to overtime, yes, and then they

1080
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 3: end up getting a touchdown pass c. J.

1081
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 2: Harris Tyler Foster ten yards out. Bobcats win thirty to

1082
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 2: twenty seven in overtime. Maryland sixteen to twelve over NC State.

1083
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 2: The points were in short supply, the mayo on top

1084
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: of Mike Loxley's head was not. He wore the big hat,

1085
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: which was awesome. Yeah, took the hat off because apparently

1086
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 2: he thought they were done pouring mayo on him.

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Speaker 1: They were not.

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00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: He said afterwards. The mayo hopefully will be quote good

1089
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: for my complexion. I guess as it won't be.

1090
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 3: But nonetheless, this was sort of the moment a Bowl

1091
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 3: season to some extent, the mayo bath, which is kind

1092
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 3: of disgusting. I watch it with family. They were repulsed.

1093
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 3: But the duke's mayo champion gets such a prize. Maryland

1094
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 3: sixteen to fourteen over NC.

1095
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 2: State came away with Maryland came away and pressed with

1096
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 2: Maryland's defense. Yeah, I mean it was Ben Finlay m

1097
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 2: C State, so grain of salt. But you know, with

1098
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 2: all the changes NC State has this year on offense, injuries,

1099
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 2: coaches leaving, whatever, good for Maryland for tightening up on

1100
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: defense in this one. All right.

1101
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Speaker 3: We also had Texas Tech forty two to twenty five

1102
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 3: over ol Miss eight turnovers in this game. Dan A

1103
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 3: combined thirteen attempts on fourth downs. Also before the game,

1104
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 3: Joey Maguire shown the money. Yeah, got a little bit

1105
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 3: of a contract extench forty two to twenty five over

1106
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 3: Ole Miss. Nice win for Tech, A good way to

1107
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Speaker 3: close out there.

1108
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: See we had Arkansas fifty five to fifty three over Kansas.

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00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 3: This is a crazy game. Kansas trailed thirty eight to

1110
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 3: thirteen midway through the third quarter. They ripped off twenty

1111
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 3: five straight. They sent it to overtime with forty one

1112
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 3: seconds left. The game had over twelve hundred yards. Both defenses,

1113
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 3: I think to that point brought their a game. Sort

1114
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 3: of who these defenses are? The Hogs win when Kansas

1115
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 3: sort of tried a Philly special or something. It was

1116
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,479
Speaker 3: Philly special ish. Yeah, they got a little too cute.

1117
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,959
Speaker 3: In overtime, they handed it off to Jason Bean tried

1118
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 3: to throw.

1119
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. It didn't work.

1120
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 3: Jalen Daniels five forty four and five touchdowns of a

1121
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 3: losing effort.

1122
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: I don't take a lot of stock or whatever in

1123
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 2: Arkansas and in bowl games and what is or isn't

1124
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 2: working in bowl games.

1125
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Speaker 1: First of all, that Ole Miss game escalated quickly.

1126
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, a lot of fourthound attempts for

1127
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 2: ole Miss and Lane Kiffin, which I'm in favor of,

1128
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: but you gotta have a plan, you got to execute.

1129
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: And then the turnovers. Obviously we're disastrous.

1130
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart with the interceptions and a fumble and ole

1131
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: Miss just let it slip away literally and figuratively. Good

1132
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: for Texas Tech and Tyler Schuck with an all purpose

1133
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 2: performance with his arms and legs. Arkansas smash Kansas on

1134
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 2: the ground, but it's not necessarily the indication of where

1135
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 2: Arkansas now without Barry odom is on defense. But if

1136
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 2: you take that in totality with the rest of the season, Arkansas,

1137
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: he's a lot on defense to get back to like

1138
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: that eight to nine win type program place.

1139
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: That's all.

1140
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 3: Duke wins game number nine this season in the Bowl

1141
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 3: win over UCF thirty to thirteen. So congrats to Mike.

1142
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 2: Elko, full on good coach, full on good coach.

1143
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 3: Congrats to Riley Leonard who had an incredible first season

1144
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 3: under Mike Elco. Big things to come for him. We

1145
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 3: hope Wisconsin. Wisconsin won twenty four to seventeen over Oklahoma State.

1146
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 3: This game was not as close as a final scorewold indicate. Also,

1147
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 3: Luke Fickle kind of sort of did coach this game

1148
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 3: after all.

1149
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 2: Hanging around. Jim Leonard is ultimately the guy, just Liz

1150
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: Fickle hanging around, hanging around with the headset on doing

1151
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: the halftime interviews.

1152
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 3: Like definitely playing more of an active role than expected.

1153
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 3: I think we joked in the preview episode that we

1154
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 3: did well, he's gonna coach, but we don't know how much.

1155
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 3: He probably won't be down on the field. It'll be

1156
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 3: one of those booth things. No, no, he was down

1157
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 3: in the field. He was down on the field. Meanwhile,

1158
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 3: Mike Gundy put a bow on his seven and sixth

1159
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 3: season by bristling when asked by a reporter whether or

1160
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 3: not staff changes were needed. So interesting tale of two

1161
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 3: coaching situations between Wisconsin and Oklahoma State twenty four to seventeen.

1162
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 3: Was your final score there as Wisconsin wins. We had

1163
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 3: East Carolina beating Coastal Carolina fifty three to twenty nine.

1164
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 3: Grayson McCall did play, did play despite being in the

1165
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 3: transfer portal.

1166
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: We missed that one.

1167
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 3: But he hurt his head, he left the game, and

1168
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,439
Speaker 3: since he has now withdrawn his name from the transfer portal,

1169
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 3: so Grace McCall. Presumably we'll be back with Coastal Carolina

1170
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 3: next season.

1171
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: Yep.

1172
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 3: We had Memphis winning over Utah State. We had a

1173
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 3: very close game between Buffalo and Georgia Southern twenty three

1174
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 3: to twenty one. Buffalo gets the dub there. New Mexico

1175
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 3: State wins. I inaccurately put here on my note sheet

1176
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 3: that they won by a score of two hundred and

1177
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 3: twenty four to nineteen. I believe it was just true,

1178
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 3: not true. Although they did rush for too forty. That's

1179
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 3: pretty good, So nice effort for New Mexico State. Middle

1180
00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 3: Tennessee eeks one out over San Diego State came from

1181
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 3: behind to win the Hawaii Bowl on Christmas Eve. The

1182
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 3: box score, The funny box score stat line here that

1183
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 3: I sent to you earlier is that Middle Tennessee officially officially,

1184
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 3: because of college football rules and how they attribute rushing

1185
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 3: yards on sacks, right, officially, Middle Tennessee finished with negative

1186
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 3: sixty six yards on the ground.

1187
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: That'll happen. Yeah, been there? Who among us?

1188
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 3: Wake Forest beats Missou by a twenty seven to two

1189
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 3: seventeen score. Perhaps the final action for Sam Hartman as

1190
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 3: a demon deacon. We will see there have been rumors

1191
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 3: right by eighteen Perry had a great game. Yeah, at

1192
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 3: Perry had a great game. We'llvin catches. Houston beats Louisiana

1193
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 3: despite trailing thirteen to nil midway through the second quarter.

1194
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 3: And last, but certainly not least air Force thirty Baylor fifteen.

1195
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 2: Did you look at the stats? Did you watch this

1196
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 2: game at all? I did watch the game because I

1197
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 2: was very keen on saying Baylor was ready to pack

1198
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 2: it up, back it in, and that air Force with

1199
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: this moment against a P five conference champion from last year,

1200
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 2: was in. I think now with this win, air Force

1201
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 2: has double digit wins for this generation. You know of

1202
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 2: seniors double digit wins each non COVID year of their

1203
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 2: time for the Falcons. And so I did watch this

1204
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 2: game because I had a lot of emotion invested in

1205
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 2: my air Force pick.

1206
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 3: I should have gone with air Force. You talked me

1207
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 3: into it, and I said, I just stick to my pick. Predictably,

1208
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 3: air Force ran for two seventy six. We saw that

1209
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 3: one coming a mile away. Only need to throw the

1210
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 3: ball seven times. He was four for Hazek Daniels was

1211
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 3: four for seven in this game. They had the ball

1212
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 3: for forty minutes. They were never not in control of

1213
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 3: this football game. And you know how it works, right,

1214
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 3: you know the drow. When you're playing a team that

1215
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 3: controls the football for that much of the game, you've

1216
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 3: got a limited number of possessions. Take that under limited

1217
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 3: number of possessions, So you got to be efficient.

1218
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 2: We're gonna lose. Air Force held Baylor to two hundred

1219
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: and thirty yards and all of eleven very Iowa ish

1220
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 2: on third down for the Bears, and so it was

1221
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 2: no surprise. Should come as no surprise that they lost

1222
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 2: this game in the manner that they did. Thirty two

1223
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 2: fifteen the coldest Bowl game ever? Is that what I saw?

1224
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 2: Thirteen degrees on the field, negative four wind show in

1225
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 2: Fort Worth.

1226
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, wild, doesn't sound fun fun.

1227
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 2: To lettle you play whatever, you're getting your blood pumping, whatever,

1228
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 2: doesn't sound fun to be in Roe J Seat thirty.

1229
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: Three for this game.

1230
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 2: That does it? I think that covers most of the

1231
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 2: bowl action that we had not previously recapped. We've got

1232
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 2: a long offseason. If there was some sort of blind

1233
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 2: spot tie in some December eighteenth Bowl game.

1234
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: So far, I had a good time.

1235
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 3: Here's the way this thing works, Dan, Yes, I am

1236
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 3: flying out to California on Wednesday morning. I will be

1237
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 3: in town for all weekend. We're doing our live show

1238
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 3: on seventh. We're doing you want to get your flight

1239
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 3: number so people can track Uh no, okay, we're doing

1240
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,439
Speaker 3: something else to preview the championship game that'll drop later

1241
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 3: on on Thursday. We will also do our typical Q

1242
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 3: and A episode which patreons at verballers dot Com will

1243
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 3: be able to here at some point this week. We

1244
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 3: have figured out exactly when we're gonna do that, but

1245
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 3: we will put that out there on Patreon and across

1246
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 3: social media so that people can tune in if they

1247
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 3: want to. But for ballers dot com is where you

1248
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 3: go to sign up. People are signing up just as

1249
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 3: we're recording this show. It's always fun to see.

1250
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 2: And you're coughing over there. You're sick.

1251
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: I'm coughing all right, man, I'm all right. I'm gonna

1252
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: be good.

1253
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,959
Speaker 2: We've had a rough year, man, Look no I haven't.

1254
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 2: It's been one day. I'm great, three and sixty seven days.

1255
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true.

1256
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 2: So hopefully you'll heal up there by the time I

1257
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 2: get a chance to make my both with California love it.

1258
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 2: Can't wait to see it, can't wait to have you.

1259
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: Solid Rebelive dot com is where you go. Get your

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1261
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Speaker 1: All the show is gonna be so good.

1262
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Speaker 3: We'll be back in a few days. We're going to

1263
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 3: talk through all things National Championship before we put the

1264
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 3: bow in a great season by doing our show. One

1265
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 3: True Champion, One True Champion at the Troubadour.

1266
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Speaker 1: That's Saturday Night.

1267
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 2: The National Championship Game is Monday, January ninth, Saturday evening,

1268
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 2: Saturday Night, the seventh of January.

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Speaker 2: If you're a Georgia fan coming in, if you're a

1271
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Speaker 2: TCU fan coming in, if you're just a human coming

1272
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Speaker 3: Yeah for that guy there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 3: sunny southern California. For myself, te hilt ran over here

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Speaker 3: in Eastern PA at least for the moment. We'll talk

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Speaker 3: to you all soon. In the meantime, stay solid, peace,