Speaker 1: Well, Marco, thank you so much for your time, because
Speaker 1: these days you are one of the busiest people in
Speaker 1: the house taking care obviously of the number one in
Speaker 1: the world. Jan Nick Sinner, So thank you so much
Speaker 1: for coming here to our podcast.
Speaker 2: My Big Pleasures.
Speaker 1: You know, I have prepared a lot of questions, but
Speaker 1: I have a feeling this is going to be going
Speaker 1: so off road and off script. And it's funny for
Speaker 1: me because it's the first time you actually see me working.
Speaker 1: We never yes, I've seen all your work that you've
Speaker 1: done all these years, but never never the other way around.
Speaker 3: So exactly I was expecting actually with the racket, to
Speaker 3: see you with the racket and jumping like you used
Speaker 3: to do it before.
Speaker 1: You know, we're getting also, times are changing anyways, Just
Speaker 1: just quickly on the tournament. What is one of the
Speaker 1: biggest challenges from the physical side playing down under? We
Speaker 1: always talk about the tough conditions, the beginning of the
Speaker 1: year and so on. For you as a trainer, what
Speaker 1: are the things you always look to make sure your
Speaker 1: players are ready for.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I would change a little bit of
Speaker 3: the schedule and planning of the tour. Let's say we
Speaker 3: arrive actually now here in Australia and my player, for example,
Speaker 3: he played the Davis Cup finals, so which means we
Speaker 3: had a really short short time considering also he needs
Speaker 3: to he needed to rest a little bit of course,
Speaker 3: and so before, for example, we had almost between six
Speaker 3: eight weeks of precision do you remember this, So we
Speaker 3: had time to you know, to work a lot, to
Speaker 3: make a little you say, a large spectrum of everything
Speaker 3: and this maybe can help you to recover well, to
Speaker 3: make a say, an improvement I mean of some qualities
Speaker 3: or whatever it is. And now basically we have three weeks.
Speaker 2: What do you do. No, that's why it's very important.
Speaker 3: I mean, as you as you know, as you know
Speaker 3: that for sure, I mean the team is always traveling
Speaker 3: now much much more than before. And the new professional
Speaker 3: figures are part of the team which is now constantly
Speaker 3: all the team. Every player has also for them provisio
Speaker 3: or stay opath and all these people.
Speaker 2: That because we need to.
Speaker 3: Try to fix it really and to change some things
Speaker 3: in really short time. So in order to do this,
Speaker 3: and because the schedule is very busy all the year,
Speaker 3: we need to try to find out two or three
Speaker 3: let's say weeks during the year or more than one
Speaker 3: or two weeks in order to come back and train
Speaker 3: in again before the next two mench So it's very
Speaker 3: important how to plan in the in the beginning of
Speaker 3: the years. Then of course it depends if your player
Speaker 3: are win need more or less, so this make huge difference.
Speaker 3: Let's say, it's more important now to see and know
Speaker 3: very very well your player more than the you know,
Speaker 3: how to say, how to to make some work, specific
Speaker 3: work that can be absolutely very quick in quick quick
Speaker 3: way to get digested by your player in order to
Speaker 3: perform maybe I mean.
Speaker 2: Two days and three days.
Speaker 3: You know, before we had a little bit more time
Speaker 3: to schedule a normal work. Now it's more reactive everything,
Speaker 3: so you have to be very you know, you have
Speaker 3: to know very very well your player and how we
Speaker 3: react on some input that you give to him.
Speaker 1: So basically now the reason why the players are traveling.
Speaker 1: But let's say with bigger teams is that you actually
Speaker 1: do most of the work on the road.
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, this is the big changing that we had.
Speaker 3: I mean me personally, I mean in thirty years, more
Speaker 3: than thirty years. Yeah, So if I remember what I
Speaker 3: was doing, you know, I was the programmation. Let's say
Speaker 3: the planning Back then, I mean it was just, you know,
Speaker 3: we go to play and then come back and stay
Speaker 3: one place, one base, even though if we keep traveling,
Speaker 3: we had time to stay somewhere to practice a little
Speaker 3: bit more. Now, I mean I would say that I'm
Speaker 3: pretty lucky that my player are winning a little bit
Speaker 3: more so, the time is very short and you need
Speaker 3: all these people around you doctor most of the time.
Speaker 3: Also because I mean, we need to always calibrate. For example,
Speaker 3: I don't know, supplementation of the players, but then it's
Speaker 3: got sciences is much more helping us, much much more.
Speaker 3: You know, when we were together, we were working together.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't know, I'm thinking about some No,
Speaker 3: I mean we could now for example, we can absolutely check,
Speaker 3: for example, the internal lot of the player.
Speaker 2: We have so many tools that help us, so we know.
Speaker 3: Exactly exactly how the player is reacting, you know, in
Speaker 3: what we are doing. So the external lot is easy
Speaker 3: because it's the job that we are putting on him.
Speaker 3: But the internal load, which depending for example, from emotional state,
Speaker 3: depending from so many things, that's very important to understand
Speaker 3: how much they are stressed, for example, so you can
Speaker 3: calibrate the external lot based on the internal lot and
Speaker 3: this may all be more easy to make less mistake
Speaker 3: from us.
Speaker 2: For example, So what.
Speaker 1: Do you say, because one of the things I did
Speaker 1: want to discuss quite a bit is how much the
Speaker 1: training has changed since you first joined the thirty years
Speaker 1: or more than thirty years ago to what you do now.
Speaker 1: So would you say one of one of the biggest
Speaker 1: differences is that now you have the tools to exactly
Speaker 1: measure and get the feedback on.
Speaker 2: Everything you do. Yeah, for example, author right variability?
Speaker 1: For example, I didn't even get that.
Speaker 3: Okay, in order don't get too much into it, maybe
Speaker 3: be bored, But then I.
Speaker 1: Thought I was kind of up to dated with the fitness.
Speaker 1: You know how much I love training and the nutritions.
Speaker 3: But obviously not. Yeah, I mean, we have now some
Speaker 3: tools that are able to exactly calculate the distance of
Speaker 3: every bit of the heart so country and much we
Speaker 3: think the bit are not the same in the same time.
Speaker 3: For example, if you have sixty bit perminos doesn't mean
Speaker 3: doesn't mean that every second you have a bit. Sometimes
Speaker 3: it will be more than one second, sometimes it will
Speaker 3: be less, and actually more than is this variability more
Speaker 3: our system is saying.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: For example, so we have we have sympathetic system, but
Speaker 3: a sympathetic system, I'm talking about nervous system that we
Speaker 3: know that when they are working well together, we are
Speaker 3: rest and we can activate it in a good way.
Speaker 3: So we are repairing tissue. We are ready to fight. Okay,
Speaker 3: So this is for example, one of the parameters that
Speaker 3: the art rivi ability can check. So so many things
Speaker 3: that help us. You know, before there was in Italy
Speaker 3: we say okaomet which means the meters of the highs,
Speaker 3: which how much you can see how your player is
Speaker 3: tired or not. Now we have also data that helps
Speaker 3: us a lot.
Speaker 1: Well, it's something I always wanted to ask you and
Speaker 1: I never did you kind of thanks to Thanks to you,
Speaker 1: the tennis changes big time as far as where the
Speaker 1: fitness goes, the training goes. Because of your expertise and
Speaker 1: your knowledge, where do you go for your resource? Because
Speaker 1: you're the one making players better, making them motivated, But
Speaker 1: where do you get the motivation from? And where do.
Speaker 3: You I mean I mean simple like when you were playing.
Speaker 3: I mean it's the passion that you want to make
Speaker 3: your less mistake, you want to perform your player better. Possible,
Speaker 3: So you need to be always a little bit curious,
Speaker 3: let's say, experimentally everything and see what can be useful
Speaker 3: for your player, for players in general, for your playings
Speaker 3: in particular. You know, So there are so many things
Speaker 3: that help us. Actually, I take advantage of this took
Speaker 3: that we have to get to apologize with you because
Speaker 3: when we were working together, so basically, I didn't have
Speaker 3: this possibility to work maybe a little bit more deeply
Speaker 3: with you. How Daniella was was let's say, Boddy Wise
Speaker 3: ready something like that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I mean again, all these signs help us a lot.
Speaker 1: I was actually going to ask you with everything. You know, Now,
Speaker 1: let's say it was what two thousand and six, two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven that we work together, what would you
Speaker 1: have done different?
Speaker 2: Also many things?
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, I mean that's again because you you know,
Speaker 3: we I always say that we as me as a
Speaker 3: fitness coach or tennis coach or whatever it is, and
Speaker 3: we need to just throw the suit on top of
Speaker 3: the player, you know. I mean that's very important. I
Speaker 3: mean every player is different. I'm not talking about leverage
Speaker 3: or I'm talking about also emotionally all these things, so
Speaker 3: more we know the player more we can, yeah, suit
Speaker 3: the perfect suit for for the player. You know that
Speaker 3: that's the goal for for for let's say, all the sports.
Speaker 2: Basically, So this is.
Speaker 3: And the more informasure you can get through all these things. Again,
Speaker 3: more you you are targeted, what you're doing. You are
Speaker 3: not losing maybe time, you are. You're the possibility to
Speaker 3: make your player, for example, to avoid all the injury possible.
Speaker 3: Now for us sample, I mean, I'm thinking about.
Speaker 2: This fascia. Maybe you heard about that.
Speaker 3: So it's this tissue that is all inside our body,
Speaker 3: you know, of course, yeah, that's it. So before when
Speaker 3: I was studying, when I was working the first year,
Speaker 3: I mean, fascia was a kind of an envelope around
Speaker 3: the muscle, around the tissue. We didn't know what actually was.
Speaker 3: Now with new signs, for example, we saw that the
Speaker 3: fashion is very is one of the probably the most
Speaker 3: important thing that allowed the body to move smoothly, perfectly.
Speaker 2: You know. So because it's.
Speaker 3: Kind of a net that is all around our body,
Speaker 3: all around our bones, muscle, tendons and everything.
Speaker 2: Plus is full of this let's say little.
Speaker 3: Transistor that can send absolutely every second information to our brain.
Speaker 3: So and more you are able to use this fashion,
Speaker 3: and now it's possible to train this fashion. We know
Speaker 3: how to train the fashion, more the movement is clear,
Speaker 3: more accuracy, you know, and more the bodies moving.
Speaker 1: Well, so you're saying we actually can train instead of
Speaker 1: the muscles the fashion.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, yes, absolutely, okay.
Speaker 1: So pretty much we would have done everything differently. No, okay,
Speaker 1: I think it's like this with everything. The more you know,
Speaker 1: the more you try to come up with new exercises.
Speaker 1: But there are always the bread and butter ones, right
Speaker 1: for sure. So what is for you, like the golden
Speaker 1: one that you have to make sure all your players
Speaker 1: do I think I know the answer.
Speaker 2: But is it the squad? Well?
Speaker 3: Yes for someone, yes, for some other not for example
Speaker 3: my last two players, for example, I didn't use the
Speaker 3: squad that much really for example. Yeah, then you know,
Speaker 3: depends women, men, depends what kind of player you are,
Speaker 3: how much is your body type?
Speaker 2: You know, there are so.
Speaker 3: Many things to consider when you do something like that.
Speaker 3: Tennis is a request are in certain you know, effort,
Speaker 3: physiological effort require a lot of coordination in there and intramuscular.
Speaker 3: So the goal that we that anyway, we need to
Speaker 3: let's say, pers it is what can help players to
Speaker 3: play tennis and no soccer or basketball. So that's that's
Speaker 3: the main goal me personally. As soon I see which
Speaker 3: kind of player I'm working with, I try to address
Speaker 3: what is at limited. The last two players again that worked,
Speaker 3: they were they are pretty similar as a body type.
Speaker 3: So I'm extremely flexible, extremely elastic, let's say, oriented, fascia
Speaker 3: oriented I would, I would underline. And so what we
Speaker 3: are doing is particularly to try to increase Okay, the strength,
Speaker 3: that's perfect, but how you use the strength, how you
Speaker 3: are able to connect all the segments of the body
Speaker 3: with the good connection, with good timing, with good coordination,
Speaker 3: in order to be very accuracy, and you can last
Speaker 3: longer because you are spending very few energy because you
Speaker 3: are moving perfectly.
Speaker 2: Let's say.
Speaker 3: So all the balance, all the exercise that actually also
Speaker 3: we were doing, are all part of this big cake
Speaker 3: to do in order to perform a court.
Speaker 1: Let's just not forget to mention that the last two
Speaker 1: players we are talking about, it's Novak and Yanik, So
Speaker 1: just quickly on them, especially being to Novak for so
Speaker 1: many years, and let's say, I think you agree, one
Speaker 1: of the greatest athletes in the history of not only tennis,
Speaker 1: but in sports in general. Is there something obviously you
Speaker 1: had so much to give to him, Is there something
Speaker 1: you actually learned from him?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, but I learned from everybody. I mean, of course absolutely,
Speaker 3: that's that's that's guaranteed. Particularly we no what coming is
Speaker 3: his mentality towards the work coming this this big guy,
Speaker 3: not only him, but I have the lault, do you know,
Speaker 3: to have the possibility to leave a little bit of
Speaker 3: this big four and now this new upcoming great player
Speaker 3: like you. You now, whatever it is, and the common
Speaker 3: let's say point of all of you, it's how whatever
Speaker 3: you do can help you as a tennis player. You
Speaker 3: know that that's was actually and you keep learning me
Speaker 3: as a part of the stuff you keep learning from you.
Speaker 2: How everything is related, I mean, how you are you
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Also something very far from tennis. I mean, if it
Speaker 3: was reading a book, whatever he was reading, he could
Speaker 3: bring it on court. So you always find the connection
Speaker 3: between whatever he is doing to the court, what can
Speaker 3: improve him as a person, as an athlete, as a
Speaker 3: whatever I mean father for example, I mean can be
Speaker 3: related on court. So we always say that athlete is
Speaker 3: connected with the persons of body mind is working in
Speaker 3: one unit. It's always working together, So that that's your
Speaker 3: common point.
Speaker 1: Would you say stubbornness as well?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean obsession.
Speaker 3: But I want to just be clear when I say
Speaker 3: stubborn and obsession, I mean the functional stubborn and functional
Speaker 3: obsession in what you do brings you in another level
Speaker 3: for sure, So not the one that goes to the pathology,
Speaker 3: of course, so the very important. But then somebody can
Speaker 3: call passion, somebody can call it, you know, whatever it is,
Speaker 3: but love what you do.
Speaker 1: Where do you draw that line though, between being stubborn
Speaker 1: in a way that it helps you as an athlete
Speaker 1: and to a point where you actually let it go
Speaker 1: and be open and receive the feedback from the team.
Speaker 1: Was it Was it easy, let's say, with Novak, to
Speaker 1: kind of receive your information and what you were trying.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the line, the borderline between functional, non functional,
Speaker 3: stubborn or whatever it is, is the fact that you
Speaker 3: anyway are open to listen. Okay, you want to arrive
Speaker 3: to the point, but you are ready to give and
Speaker 3: receive feedback. So to give a received feedback is kind
Speaker 3: of an art because I mean, there are so many
Speaker 3: ways you can communicate feedback or receive a feedback that
Speaker 3: can change completely the meaning what you're saying. And that's
Speaker 3: whatso is another I think plus that as as a
Speaker 3: team we need to master a little bit. I mean
Speaker 3: the communication, the effective communication, you know, have to be
Speaker 3: sometimes you need to be straight. Sometimes you can arrive
Speaker 3: and you to understand to send some message.
Speaker 2: To the player that you don't feel.
Speaker 3: Are you say, for example, that happened to me most
Speaker 3: of the time, depending what player you're working with, of course,
Speaker 3: but sometimes I don't say, look what you're doing is
Speaker 3: not right. I could say, because this could be taken
Speaker 3: by the player like no I'm trying to do it.
Speaker 3: Why you say that it's not right? I can say,
Speaker 3: look what you're doing or how you are behaving make
Speaker 3: me feel that is something like that, so they cannot
Speaker 3: questioning how I'm feeling, you know. So it's something just
Speaker 3: not because I want to be right or wrong, but
Speaker 3: I want to create the real communication and efficiency communication,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes I think of a different cultural
Speaker 1: background that maybe be underestimated sometimes to a player from
Speaker 1: let's say Eastern Europe, maybe you can be much more
Speaker 1: straightforward where to someone from another country. You have to
Speaker 1: kind of find a way how to go about it,
Speaker 1: and I believe it's always kind of a working process
Speaker 1: to to always see where the where the limits are
Speaker 1: and how to cross them and how how to accept.
Speaker 3: Different age. When you grow, you know there is also
Speaker 3: change in the communication. You know so many factors that
Speaker 3: can but of course there are some little knowledge tools
Speaker 3: you can call whatever you want, but you have to
Speaker 3: haviitally if you want to, because I mean communication in
Speaker 3: the hand, it's very important more than jump a heat
Speaker 3: or something like that at a certain level. Of course,
Speaker 3: would you.
Speaker 1: Say you had to approach female athletes differently than guys.
Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that. It's
Speaker 3: difference between men and women. That is different between persons,
Speaker 3: whatever they are, men or women. You know the background,
Speaker 3: like you said that, the character that they have, this
Speaker 3: determinate out what kind of person you are.
Speaker 2: So we have the dew. We need to understand what
Speaker 2: we have in front of us.
Speaker 3: Because if the main goal is to be able to
Speaker 3: trust meth some things to be useful for the player,
Speaker 3: we need to know also how to tell them because
Speaker 3: you can be the best coach in the world and
Speaker 3: the best player in the world, and you are not
Speaker 3: fitting together.
Speaker 2: For some reason.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: One question that I think so many of my group
Speaker 1: will appreciate to know a little bit more, whether it's
Speaker 1: Lindsay Won Andovich where I just finished playing doubles with,
Speaker 1: how do you train a retired athlete? Because I think
Speaker 1: that is not the easy thing to do, because obviously
Speaker 1: we come to the gym already with some kind of experience, expectations,
Speaker 1: and how do you find the balance between not pushing
Speaker 1: us too much, obviously because everybodies have been through a lot,
Speaker 1: but also not giving us like a forty five minute
Speaker 1: yoga session and thinking that's going to be okay. I
Speaker 1: think it's one of the most tricky jobs to have.
Speaker 2: Well, I would say that.
Speaker 3: Guys, listen regarding regarding what we were saying before we
Speaker 3: were saying before, I mean, the fascia is one of
Speaker 3: the most let's say, tricky part of our body because
Speaker 3: if you don't keep moving on the on the right
Speaker 3: way between this layer of fashion that is kind of
Speaker 3: college and collage and let's say this this fluid that
Speaker 3: if you are able to keep this fluid.
Speaker 2: Very not sticky you know, but very very smooth.
Speaker 3: The movement is smooth, which means you are not creating
Speaker 3: some resistance in some part of your body, but all
Speaker 3: the body is moving fluently.
Speaker 2: Let's say.
Speaker 3: So for our age, which is my age, right for
Speaker 3: fortum plus, it's very important to keep moving in the
Speaker 3: right way, be careful what you're doing. Of course, don't
Speaker 3: do crazy stuff like jumping with you know, from the trampolina.
Speaker 3: But I mean do a lot of exercise of mobility
Speaker 3: and strength with just keeping in mind to using this
Speaker 3: kind of you know, keeping moving the body all together.
Speaker 3: So I mean isolation exercise for example. It could be
Speaker 3: good for some time, but not the main goal for
Speaker 3: people that so for summer, yeah, it's okay for the
Speaker 3: for the churches to keep judge.
Speaker 2: Tests a little bit more more, let's say into the limit.
Speaker 3: But I would say three dimensional movement for example, that
Speaker 3: that make the body work on this three different planes
Speaker 3: that we have, which is frontal, you know, digital, you
Speaker 3: know this plane.
Speaker 2: Let's say make it easy.
Speaker 3: I mean it's just moving all the body with some
Speaker 3: resistance with bands with with weights of course, I mean
Speaker 3: weights have to be proportional of your sure your state
Speaker 3: of shape.
Speaker 2: Let's say I was going to say, you were going
Speaker 2: to question my age, but I know you're twenty.
Speaker 1: And so basically mobility with a little bit of strength
Speaker 1: but not to static, yes, but okay, and some explosivity involved,
Speaker 1: because that's where news it's going downhill.
Speaker 2: Everything is connected.
Speaker 3: If you're if you're used to, if you are able
Speaker 3: to use your body with the perfect connection on the
Speaker 3: segment as a chain, your responsivity is gonna it's gonna
Speaker 3: be yeah, the sposifity is going to be there.
Speaker 1: All right. As far as as nutritions go.
Speaker 2: Well, that's another big, big jump forward.
Speaker 1: We did absolutely yeah, because as players, we are so
Speaker 1: used to, you know, having to always have enough fuel
Speaker 1: and all of this. But then I see more with
Speaker 1: the guys, I would say that, you know, then it's
Speaker 1: time to kind of accept that, Okay, we are not
Speaker 1: burning as much, we are not five hours anymore training.
Speaker 2: So I think that's right, listen.
Speaker 3: I mean again, also, now science helps a lot, because
Speaker 3: I mean, for example, now it's very common to do
Speaker 3: genetic and epigenetic test that is going to be exactly
Speaker 3: who you are, what you need and actually can be
Speaker 3: also can detect also possibly I don't want to say
Speaker 3: sickness or something like this much for example, I don't know,
Speaker 3: possibly diabetic type two in twenty years for example, So
Speaker 3: you can start to work right now for that which
Speaker 3: is not that one O the pertent sure that you're
Speaker 3: going to have this one.
Speaker 2: But your DNA you know, or the.
Speaker 3: Modification of NA through the genetic can be arrived in
Speaker 3: that point there your body in the next twenty years.
Speaker 3: So also there the nutrition the supplementation now is totally
Speaker 3: it can be totally you say in.
Speaker 2: Are you saying?
Speaker 3: I mean you can you can check again all these
Speaker 3: things according exactly on your topology your DNA, and this
Speaker 3: of course is helping a lot. So the antih basically
Speaker 3: you know when you when we're talking about the antihe,
Speaker 3: we know that some product can trigger some part of
Speaker 3: your body and can of course putting down more inflammation
Speaker 3: for example that you have due to the stress the
Speaker 3: life normal life, you the no movement or some other
Speaker 3: you know, some other things. So this can bring completely
Speaker 3: down the inflammation. That could be greater vantage for the
Speaker 3: longevity for everything.
Speaker 1: So to sum it up, basically, what I invest in
Speaker 1: my body now, I'm going to be hopefully grateful in
Speaker 1: four years.
Speaker 3: Yes, sure, absolutely, life or style, you know, but I
Speaker 3: mean these things you know that that's the common sense
Speaker 3: says something like this, but we can go target now.
Speaker 2: Oh that's even no more much better.
Speaker 1: Lastly, because we are going really down and specific and
Speaker 1: I feel like we could sit here for hours discussing this.
Speaker 1: As far as recovery, what has changed, let's say, from
Speaker 1: I mean already eyes bud and creat therapy was like,
Speaker 1: well we are killing it. I mean we are on
Speaker 1: top of things.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah yeah, also there I mean.
Speaker 3: Nutritions again, nutrition for sure, absolutely, but it can recovery
Speaker 3: can be absolutely be addressed by nutrition. And you know,
Speaker 3: there are so many things and now we can discuss
Speaker 3: they are allowed or not allowed. For example, when you
Speaker 3: talk about aberbertic chamber, I mean I'm not not here
Speaker 3: making conversion to aberberdy chamber, but are all things that
Speaker 3: can help ourselves to put it down. Information for example,
Speaker 3: which is the the eldorado of the youtheness you know,
Speaker 3: and the healthy well whatever it is, and.
Speaker 2: That's there are so many things now that can help you.
Speaker 2: I mean these.
Speaker 1: Pants that yeah, I was going to ask you about
Speaker 1: that that makes really no absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely yes, because I mean that.
Speaker 1: But then there are also the old good classics like
Speaker 1: still go on the big after right after the match
Speaker 1: and stretching. I never forget when you were telling me
Speaker 1: that when you first started to stretch.
Speaker 2: Your players three years ago, that was already like ballets,
Speaker 2: that big deal.
Speaker 3: As I told you, they kicked me out from one
Speaker 3: tournament in Romania back to the ninety eighteen.
Speaker 2: Ninety, which was the first year you started. Oh to
Speaker 2: think about that eight.
Speaker 3: Ready for the time was satellite, no future satellite, So
Speaker 3: you had to spend one month somewhere. If you luck
Speaker 3: you play the master final Master, I give you two
Speaker 3: or three points. But if you don't get to the
Speaker 3: to the Master final Master, you basically you lose three weeks.
Speaker 2: Does it help?
Speaker 1: And I do believe big time as you know that
Speaker 1: your background is in track and field, because let's not
Speaker 1: forget that you were one of the talents of a
Speaker 1: long time.
Speaker 2: I was, I mean, I was really average. No, well,
Speaker 2: I would say that.
Speaker 1: Because you guys, track and field that's the ultimate athleticism.
Speaker 1: You don't have tools that help you.
Speaker 2: So I always feel like that's a huge, huge.
Speaker 3: I think that track and field give me the mentality
Speaker 3: a little bit to keep investigating, be curious what could
Speaker 3: help you know as a as a in terms of
Speaker 3: new work planning, you know new study that remember when
Speaker 3: we start to do bliometric jumps until this was and
Speaker 3: I was eighteen nineteen and so I try on my skin.
Speaker 3: It looks like, wow, this methodology comes from Mars. You
Speaker 3: know this drop jump. There was this famous Russian professor
Speaker 3: that was at the time, was at the top of
Speaker 3: the top. We got this book at the time, like
Speaker 3: it was like, you know, coming from heaven. Really, so
Speaker 3: it was funny. I think this track and field can
Speaker 3: help you. So you stay with that kind of mentality,
Speaker 3: you know, to always the goal is try to improve
Speaker 3: what I need to do, what I had to apply
Speaker 3: and you know, investigate a lot.
Speaker 2: What is the new research that can help you.
Speaker 1: Started on the tour with the players eighty four, what
Speaker 1: has been the highlight of your career?
Speaker 3: Well, now, I don't want to sounds too normal, but
Speaker 3: I would say that all my players was unbelievable journey
Speaker 3: with all of them, all of them.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 3: I never learned or I never had pleasure to work
Speaker 3: with someone, but all of them compared with the other
Speaker 3: side now of the microphone was a huge privilege for
Speaker 3: me to keep learning to.
Speaker 2: Share.
Speaker 3: Basically, now I'm sixty almost sixty one, and I don't
Speaker 3: have kids, but I consider all my players. Before they
Speaker 3: were my brother's sister. Now they are my son and daughter.
Speaker 3: Soon they're going to be a nephew and his. But
Speaker 3: it was a really great journey keep doing keep I mean,
Speaker 3: I still loved what I'm doing, So that's probably the
Speaker 3: best gift.
Speaker 1: That's only answer was the most stubborn one.
Speaker 2: Let me say something like that.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no, no, absolutely, I mean
Speaker 3: all of you there was, of course, I mean a person,
Speaker 3: wonderful person anyway. But of course when you deal with
Speaker 3: the pressure and everything, sometime can be tough.
Speaker 2: I understand.
Speaker 3: So that's the way again, the team has to be
Speaker 3: kind of Mattras, you know, something that absorbed a little
Speaker 3: bit the high pick and the lower peak. So to
Speaker 3: to make sure that your play is in this operatic
Speaker 3: calm of the zone. You can call a rosa, you
Speaker 3: can call over you want that that's the area.
Speaker 2: That they can perform.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Then, of course, so many factors that can the best
Speaker 2: work ethic tough to say, but I would say not
Speaker 2: because you're here. You Novak unique for sure.
Speaker 3: As a dedication, let's say, as a dedication to the work, absolutely, yes,
Speaker 3: but also the other I don't want to sound so,
Speaker 3: but yeah, but you know this tree that I said
Speaker 3: not because I mean I want to please you because
Speaker 3: you're here. But I think that thanks to you, I
Speaker 3: learned a lot about the headache work heading. I mean absolutely,
Speaker 3: and yeah, sometimes with you we need to just, you know,
Speaker 3: like the horse.
Speaker 2: Just hold you a little bit more because it could
Speaker 2: be go in that side of the moon. But no, no,
Speaker 2: that's that's that's what's fantastic.
Speaker 1: Well, I think I'm going to finish on this. I
Speaker 1: feel like we could be talking for hours, but I
Speaker 1: know how precious your time is. I did promise this
Speaker 1: was going to be only twenty minutes, but it has
Speaker 1: i'm sure been much more than that. But hopefully maybe
Speaker 1: we can do it some other time down the road,
Speaker 1: during any time season, and I'm sure we will have
Speaker 1: so so many questions from the f and a bit
Speaker 1: more about the training and longevity wellness. That's kind of
Speaker 1: what the Real DNA podcast is going to be focused
Speaker 1: this year on, and hopefully we can motivate people to
Speaker 1: be better tennis players, better athletes and just have the
Speaker 1: tools to have a better life. So thank you so
Speaker 1: much for your time. Until next time, H