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Speaker 2: dive into what we saw last night with the teams
Speaker 2: kind of jocking for playoff position. These games are meaning
Speaker 2: a lot to a lot of teams players. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: have the other end of the spectrum that the teams
Speaker 2: that are tanking. But last night, what we saw with Denver,
Speaker 2: what we saw with Golden State was very impressive.
Speaker 3: What do you have for his first hour?
Speaker 8: Well, I was going to start off nonsports. Actually I
Speaker 8: think we have a good poll question coming segment two. Okay,
Speaker 8: if we start out nonsports, go with Val Kilmer. His
Speaker 8: best movie okay, passed away yesterday. Yeah, Val Kilmer just
Speaker 8: passed away. His best movie? Would it be Tombstone? The
Speaker 8: Doors Heat? He's in another Top Gun. Yeah, he's sort
Speaker 8: of a minor character in that. He's in another movie
Speaker 8: called Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
Speaker 3: That was really great.
Speaker 2: I think that's where he met his wife and Kiss
Speaker 2: Kiss Bang Bang.
Speaker 8: I might throw real genius in there, just maybe that's
Speaker 8: the eight year old in me, but I used to
Speaker 8: love real genius.
Speaker 2: Well, he had a cameo in Top Gun, the New one,
Speaker 2: but in the original he was iceman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, had a big role. He was in Willow. It
Speaker 3: was a big movie when I was a kid. I remember, yeah, yeah, yeah, Pauline.
Speaker 7: I was actually watching Tombstone last night. It's one of
Speaker 7: those movies when you're flipping you're like, oh, Tombstone, and
Speaker 7: it's one of the Tombstone is a very good Western.
Speaker 7: Val Kilmer takes it to the next level. He's the
Speaker 7: best thing in the movie.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever watched Tombstone. I know, yeah,
Speaker 2: don't think I have.
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, you know it's too bad too, because I
Speaker 8: don't know that you can now. But god, was that
Speaker 8: a good movie when it came out.
Speaker 3: Oh it doesn't hold up. I don't know if it
Speaker 3: does or not.
Speaker 8: But I'm finding that almost no movies really hold up anymore,
Speaker 8: to be honest with you, I just started watching I
Speaker 8: started rewatching last night The Wire with my son Yeah fifteen.
Speaker 8: I'm like, nah, dude, you're gonna love this whatever. And
Speaker 8: I had to give after the first episode. I was like,
Speaker 8: all right, give me two episodes. Oh, no, give me
Speaker 8: two episodes. And then because he couldn't stop laughing at
Speaker 8: like some of like the way some of like the
Speaker 8: cops acted or something.
Speaker 3: You're like, oh my.
Speaker 8: He was like, oh my god, this is so corny.
Speaker 8: But I'm like, nah, just you're meeting a lot of characters.
Speaker 8: Give me two more episodes and then let me know.
Speaker 3: Oh man, Breaking Bad would still hold up.
Speaker 2: I'm guessing if you haven't seen Breaking Bad, I haven't
Speaker 2: watched the Sopranos, So the Soprano still hold up.
Speaker 3: I'm guessing I don't know. No, Okay, yeah, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 7: If you go back and rewatch some of these things,
Speaker 7: Like the first three episodes of the Sopranos, it's all
Speaker 7: about the psychologist psychiatrist. It's not kind of a mafia yet,
Speaker 7: it doesn't. It's like the first couple episodes of Seinfelder're
Speaker 7: not that good yet. Yes, Todd, Lauren Broco, thank you, Tom,
Speaker 7: Lorraine Brocos, not Lauren.
Speaker 3: He prefers Lorraine.
Speaker 5: I call it Lauren.
Speaker 2: Our friends to call her Lauren, and everyone on Earth
Speaker 2: blame it on Lorraine. Okay, So I think we might
Speaker 2: have a pole question Play of the Day coming up
Speaker 2: as well. Joker went for sixty one ten and ten,
Speaker 2: and if he went sixty one, nine and nine, it
Speaker 2: would still be as impressive, but we get caught up.
Speaker 2: It was a triple double and he had sixty one points.
Speaker 2: That is true. He played over fifty two minutes scoring
Speaker 2: the sixty one points in a double overtime loss to
Speaker 2: the Timberwolves. So ten and ten. So that's the third
Speaker 2: sixty point triple double in NBA history. James Harden did it,
Speaker 2: and then Luka Doncic. You go back to Luca in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, he went sixty twenty one and tenow.
Speaker 9: Stead of the day, stand of a day, stead of
Speaker 9: to day, stanaa day.
Speaker 1: This is the Stele of the Day, run too.
Speaker 2: By Panini America. Steph Curry made twelve three pointers. He
Speaker 2: finished with fifty two points. So he has fifteen career
Speaker 2: games of fifty or more points, tied for six most
Speaker 2: all time and tied with Dame Lillard for your second
Speaker 2: among active players. You're watching him and he makes it
Speaker 2: look simple. He makes it look easy, but so does Joker.
Speaker 2: Joker is so methodical, you could say plotting. He's a
Speaker 2: really good outside shooter, but he would get inside it
Speaker 2: and it's just old man moves. That's a little shake
Speaker 2: over here, a little you know, fake over here. Move
Speaker 2: over here, a little jump book here, and he's going
Speaker 2: against the stifled tower, Rudy Gobert, and he just does
Speaker 2: what he wants to do. And same with Steph, but
Speaker 2: Steph trying to do it on the perimeter, and at
Speaker 2: one point Zach Edie is out there trying to guard him.
Speaker 2: So you had seven to four against six y three
Speaker 2: and Steph got just enough room and then he.
Speaker 3: Shoots a three. It's remarkable. You know, I've.
Speaker 2: Watched the NBA for probably fifty five years and you
Speaker 2: just watch somebody shoot like that, and nobody has ever
Speaker 2: shot like that, no one, And he just makes it
Speaker 2: look effortless and it's not that is not easy what
Speaker 2: he does, but he finds enough space.
Speaker 3: He's really good at doing that.
Speaker 2: And Joker does too, because you look at Joker and
Speaker 2: you go, why can't somebody stop him? He is so
Speaker 2: good with his footwork, he's so smart with the ball,
Speaker 2: and he just moves at his own pace. He brings
Speaker 2: the game to his speed. Kawhi Leonard used to do
Speaker 2: that on a regular basis. Luca does that. You slow
Speaker 2: the game down to your pace instead of you have
Speaker 2: to speed up to what you would think an NBA
Speaker 2: games pace would be and it's remarkable. But to watch Steph,
Speaker 2: I don't know if he'll ever be reduced to a
Speaker 2: role player like his father was. You know, his dad
Speaker 2: was a great shooter, but he wasn't a guy who
Speaker 2: was going to beat off the dribble. He'd usually be
Speaker 2: in the corner, you know, shooting. But I don't know
Speaker 2: if because Steph isn't going to play any place else,
Speaker 2: I don't think this is He's going to retire as
Speaker 2: a Golden State Warrior.
Speaker 3: But can he be the third option?
Speaker 2: You know, let's say three years down the road, is
Speaker 2: he still able to be Steph Curry two years down
Speaker 2: the road? Can they bring in somebody who would be
Speaker 2: the number one option on that team because Jimmy Butler
Speaker 2: is not going to be their long haul long term.
Speaker 2: They do have some younger players, but I haven't seen
Speaker 2: anybody take that next step up. And then Denver did
Speaker 2: this without Jabal Murray. It was Joker that was it.
Speaker 2: Here is Anthony Edwards who was dynamic as well. Last night,
Speaker 2: the Timberwolf's Garred talking about yo Kich's performance, I might have.
Speaker 6: Been the best name in my life like that, I've
Speaker 6: been a part of nikoleos bro. Oh my god, he
Speaker 6: might be the best basketball player I've ever seen, like Closa,
Speaker 6: besides to my like, besides myself, to myself.
Speaker 3: Bruh, he's incredible. Bress.
Speaker 1: The MVP races tough. Now, I don't I don't know, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Ceasty, that is funny. He's the best basketball player except
Speaker 2: for me. But Anthony Edwards was wonderful again last night.
Speaker 2: But these are games, you know they're meaningful. With Golden
Speaker 2: State jockeying for position, Denver jockeying for position. This is
Speaker 2: when you watch a game and you truly get to
Speaker 2: watch a game and enjoy a game. You're seeing great
Speaker 2: players play games that really mean something. And Joker's playing
Speaker 2: almost fifty three minutes last night, and he's the focal
Speaker 2: point every time down the floor that wears you out.
Speaker 3: Same with Steph. It's like, all right, go out.
Speaker 2: There and get him going to load up, Steph, You're
Speaker 2: on your own tonight, all right? Eight seven to seven
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Speaker 2: a DP show the NFL Owners meetings. I got a
Speaker 2: confession to make because I know it's going to happen.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to like a Christmas party, and
Speaker 2: I'll be the sports expert and somebody will say, hey,
Speaker 2: games going into overtime, what are the overtime rules in
Speaker 2: the NFL? And I'm going to go, I think, oh,
Speaker 2: I think both teams get the ball. But I think that, well,
Speaker 2: this is regular season. Is regular season overtime? The same
Speaker 2: as posty. I might pull a Jim Beayheim. Oh hold on,
Speaker 2: my wife's calling me. Yeah, like I can't keep track
Speaker 2: of it. They just keep tweaking and tweaking and tweaking,
Speaker 2: and then you're going, I don't know, but looks like
Speaker 2: tweaking overtime. How they spot the ball, the chain gang
Speaker 2: or they keeping the chain gang?
Speaker 3: What's their role in the game.
Speaker 2: They're going to be able to review if you get
Speaker 2: hit somebody out of bounds, they're gonna be able to
Speaker 2: review roughing the quarterback. There's a lot that was being
Speaker 2: unpacked at the owner's meetings. Then you had the tush
Speaker 2: push and then they're going to table that. And all
Speaker 2: that means to me is, see, this isn't like the
Speaker 2: movie what is it, Twelve Angry Men, where they have
Speaker 2: to stay in and come up with a verdict. And
Speaker 2: I think I was back in the sixties or something.
Speaker 2: But why don't they just say we're going to stay
Speaker 2: in here until we come up with a vote. But
Speaker 2: if I'm the Eagles and Jeffrey Lorie the owner, and
Speaker 2: I go, wait a minute, we're all here. Why are
Speaker 2: we tabling this? Because tabling means we don't have enough
Speaker 2: support yet. But let's wait till May and then I'm
Speaker 2: going to work behind the scene if I'm the commissioner
Speaker 2: or are reading the commissioner, and'd be, hey, I don't
Speaker 2: have all the votes.
Speaker 3: Let's just table this now.
Speaker 2: They tabled other things to be fair to this rule,
Speaker 2: but that feels like we want to get rid of
Speaker 2: the tush push. Let's table this. And if I'm the
Speaker 2: Eagles and I'm Jeffrey Lorie, I just say, Commissioner, what
Speaker 2: are we waiting for. Everybody can vote right now. Let's
Speaker 2: take a vote. And I don't know if you can
Speaker 2: do that. I don't know if you want to embarrass
Speaker 2: the commissioner. But this is a rule that's directed at
Speaker 2: the Eagles.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: We're all here, let's all vote, and then let's see
Speaker 2: if we keep this. Because I think if they voted yesterday.
Speaker 2: They probably didn't have the necessary votes to put an
Speaker 2: end to the tush push because they needed twenty four votes.
Speaker 3: Yes bulling, Yeah, it's a good point.
Speaker 7: The Eagles kind of have to know about this play
Speaker 7: as they plan their team going forward. It changes the
Speaker 7: structure of their offense. They should demand it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was surprised because it felt like the momentum was there,
Speaker 2: but I just got the feeling that the commissioner didn't
Speaker 2: get what he wanted.
Speaker 3: Here is Roger Goodell yesterday.
Speaker 10: There's a lot of discussion about going back to the
Speaker 10: previous rule, back to pre two thousand and four. The
Speaker 10: reality of it is, I think that makes a lot
Speaker 10: of sense in many ways because I get expands it
Speaker 10: beyond just.
Speaker 3: That single play.
Speaker 10: There are a lot of plays where you see someone
Speaker 10: pulling or pushing somebody that are not in the tush
Speaker 10: push formation that I think do have an increased risk
Speaker 10: of injury. And so I think the committee will look
Speaker 10: at that and come back in May with some proposals.
Speaker 3: And you know what that proposal will be. See yah.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they used to call this that you couldn't
Speaker 2: push somebody from behind.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, what genius going.
Speaker 2: You know what, we should let them push from behind,
Speaker 2: and now the Commissioner I guests can go back and say,
Speaker 2: you know what, on second thought, we're going to change.
Speaker 3: We're going to go back to the original rule now.
Speaker 2: Chase Daniel of the Athletic, he has a podcast called
Speaker 2: Scoop City, former quarterback. He said that he spoke to
Speaker 2: a doctor who believes there is zero data that says
Speaker 2: the tush push creates added health and safety concerns for
Speaker 2: NFL players. Yes, I said that yesterday. My source said
Speaker 2: there's no data. They want data, but they don't have anything.
Speaker 2: And that's what you know. Maybe the Commissioner's trying to
Speaker 2: find new ways to get more information, just to say
Speaker 2: to these other owners. But I don't know who's gonna
Speaker 2: Can you get twenty four to vote against this? And
Speaker 2: I think that's why they're tabling it. All right, we'll
Speaker 2: settle on our poll question. Actually, we have a really
Speaker 2: interesting poll question I think coming up after the commercial break,
Speaker 2: and even more of a surprise, Pauli's the one who
Speaker 2: came up with the really interesting poll.
Speaker 3: Coice.
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, I don't think you realize you came up
Speaker 2: with a really interesting question about an hour ago. We'll
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Speaker 2: I've been reminded, scolded, there's no tickets to see us
Speaker 2: when we go up to Lambeau. When we do drafts
Speaker 2: of the draft, it's first come, first serve. If you
Speaker 2: show up on a Wednesday, Thursday or Friday, those who
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Speaker 3: Are in line to go in.
Speaker 2: And we're going to be at the Bar on Home
Speaker 2: Grown Way, and we'll be there for the three days Wednesday, Thursday,
Speaker 2: Friday of the NFL Draft. All right, we have a
Speaker 2: Val Kilmer poll best movie for Val Kilmer, but there's
Speaker 2: other poll questions that we'll have throughout the day.
Speaker 8: Yes, we also put up there to start the show.
Speaker 8: Do you prefer flats or drums? Based on where we're
Speaker 8: going At the bar in Green Bay, they are famous
Speaker 8: for serving flats only, anti drum. Apparently that's fine, no judgment,
Speaker 8: maybe there might be some drummists among the audience.
Speaker 3: I just figured out, what do you prefer? I'm a drummist,
Speaker 3: are you? Yeah? Yeah, just like the feel of it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've been known for my handle, so that the drum
Speaker 2: has a handle that makes it easier to pick up.
Speaker 2: I hate going through a pile of napkins though, when
Speaker 2: I'm eating wings. So you're more of a dry rub
Speaker 2: guy than than a no, no, no, no, saucy winger.
Speaker 3: No, I have been called a saucy winger. Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 7: The flats, though they take longer, you can kind of
Speaker 7: enjoy the process.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a drummer. I'm a drummer. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The earth is flattest. Yes, Yes, the Dodgers aren't going
Speaker 2: to lose a game. By the way, there's seven and oh,
Speaker 2: although the Padres are six and oh, they're on pace
Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, they are the Dodgers on pace to
Speaker 2: go undefeated.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: Uh, speaking of the Dodgers, here's something Paulie brought up
Speaker 2: an hour ago. He said, would it be fair to
Speaker 2: say that right now you have a clearcut best player
Speaker 2: in the four main sports Baseball Otani NBA Joker NHL,
Speaker 2: Connor McDavid, and the NFL Patrick Mahomes. General consensus is
Speaker 2: those are the best players now. I'm not saying they're
Speaker 2: going to be MVPs because Mahomes may not win another MVP,
Speaker 2: but he cares about winning MVPs in Super Bowls. Connor McDavid,
Speaker 2: MVP Joker is not going to win this year, but
Speaker 2: he's still the best player in the game. Otani a
Speaker 2: couple MVPs already. Is there anybody else that you would
Speaker 2: put in? It's strange though, with the NFL with Mahomes,
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson's got two MVPs. Josh Allen got an MVP
Speaker 2: as well, but Mahomes is probably still considered the best
Speaker 2: player in the sport.
Speaker 3: Connor McDavid.
Speaker 2: With the National Hockey League, Joker and then Otani, I
Speaker 2: don't think you get an argument with Otani and McDavid.
Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit with Joker just because of Shay Gilgis,
Speaker 2: and then with Mahomes you might get people who say, well,
Speaker 2: Mahomes isn't even the best quarterback right now.
Speaker 12: Yes, Marvin, with the Shaye Joker argument, this might be
Speaker 12: a Barkley Jordan thing. Barkley might win the MV people,
Speaker 12: we know the best player is Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I spoke with somebody that I've known a
Speaker 2: long time, has been around the NBA for a long
Speaker 2: long time, and he said, you're sleeping on how great
Speaker 2: Shay Gilgis Alexander is. I said, well, what do you
Speaker 2: mean he could be Jordan like? And I go, well,
Speaker 2: he goes, no, let me finish. He could be Jordan
Speaker 2: like in his ability to be able to score. He
Speaker 2: doesn't score like Michael, but he can score as often
Speaker 2: as Michael, so not style points, but he can get
Speaker 2: you thirty to thirty five a night and for a
Speaker 2: long period of time, like for years to come.
Speaker 3: And I said, okay, but you know what else does
Speaker 3: he do?
Speaker 2: Because we do focus on his scoring, I said, Joker
Speaker 2: is one of the most unselfish players in the game,
Speaker 2: and he can stay like he'll give you a triple double.
Speaker 2: He could easily get thirty thirty five. But he's also
Speaker 2: getting you ten assist a game, and he's also getting
Speaker 2: you twelve rebounds. Again, but this is a longtime NBA person,
Speaker 2: said Shay Gilgis, Alexander could be the next Jordan, only
Speaker 2: in this category of his ability to be able to
Speaker 2: score thirty to thirty five a night. I said, well,
Speaker 2: James Harden could do that. He said yes, And I
Speaker 2: said Harden also got a lot of assist as well.
Speaker 2: We'll look back on James Harden and Russell Westbrook's careers
Speaker 2: and go, how do you define what they did? Because
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook, when he's the main guy, was great, a
Speaker 2: statistical anomaly, like it's like, damn that guy. And I
Speaker 2: loved watching him play. When he's not the main guy,
Speaker 2: that's when it's trouble because he still thinks at times
Speaker 2: he's the main guy. And he cost Denver last night,
Speaker 2: missed a layup, mister free throw, fouled a shooter at
Speaker 2: the end of the game that cost them. But when
Speaker 2: he was the main guy, he was great. But look
Speaker 2: of all the teams that he's played on, and Harden's
Speaker 2: played on, Carmelo played on, Iverson played on. These guys
Speaker 2: were all looking for a championship. Joker's got a championship already,
Speaker 2: and maybe shake Gilgess Alexander gets this. And I know
Speaker 2: I spend far more time on this than I need to,
Speaker 2: But what you're seeing with Joker makes him the best
Speaker 2: player in the game. And for those who want to
Speaker 2: bring out the is Shay gild just a good defensive player?
Speaker 2: Because I haven't heard anybody say, you know, he's a
Speaker 2: lockdown defender, but they'll use that as a negative against Joker.
Speaker 2: Defensive rebounds. That means you're playing defense with the rebounds,
Speaker 2: and he's one of the I think he's the top
Speaker 2: center with steals. Those are defensive. You know, statistics here,
Speaker 2: who's a lockdown defender anymore? By the way, when Steph
Speaker 2: went unanimous MVP, did anybody say, yeah, but does he
Speaker 2: play defense?
Speaker 3: We pick and choose, like you want Shay Gilg's.
Speaker 2: Vote for him, absolutely, but don't go you know, Joker
Speaker 2: doesn't play defense.
Speaker 8: Yes, I kind of view those things as just individual skills,
Speaker 8: Like we don't look at say a great spot up shooter,
Speaker 8: like man, this dude just you know, fifty three is
Speaker 8: a night or whatever, like yeah, but what's his assist
Speaker 8: But you know what I mean, you just take people
Speaker 8: for what they give you, the positives, and then if
Speaker 8: you're looking for a negative, you can throw that on there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just I don't like when you give me a
Speaker 2: reason I'm not voting for that. Guy as opposed to
Speaker 2: I'm voting for this guy. I'm fine with that. Joe
Speaker 2: el embiid you want to vote for him, great, he's
Speaker 2: not the MVP, but he had a wonderful year. And
Speaker 2: I put my ballot where my mouth is. I voted
Speaker 2: for Jordan every year when I voted, I voted for
Speaker 2: him every year. Karl Malone was wonderful, Charles Barkley wonderful.
Speaker 2: They won MVPs. There was nobody more valuable than Mike
Speaker 2: plain and simple bottom line, it's weird that Lebron has it.
Speaker 2: Lebron's not going to win another MVP, but what was
Speaker 2: his last one? Twenty twelve, I mean thirteen years ago.
Speaker 12: Yes, Marvin, I think with Shae, I don't think it's
Speaker 12: joker fatigue. I think the fact that Shae's averaging thirty
Speaker 12: three on a team that's up by twelve games in
Speaker 12: the Western Conference really helps his case.
Speaker 2: Okay, if they were in second place with Shay Gilgers
Speaker 2: Alexander win the MVP, No, See, that's silly.
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: So if the thunder are in second place in the West,
Speaker 2: then he's not as valuable to his team.
Speaker 12: But I think it makes the voting for him that
Speaker 12: much easier. Yeah, they're up ten games in the West.
Speaker 2: Okay, But voters need to watch basketball. They need to
Speaker 2: watch on a nightly basis. Jay Gilgess is a great player.
Speaker 2: If they were in third place, you could still make
Speaker 2: a case for him being an m V pick. They
Speaker 2: you know, we voters here, you want it easy. I
Speaker 2: don't know how to figure this out. Yeah, how do
Speaker 2: I How do I separate? Nobody has said anything about
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell. Nobody there. They have the best record in
Speaker 2: the East, and they're surpassing the Celtics who won the title.
Speaker 12: Yes, I think it helps when you have one solo
Speaker 12: star Tatum and Brown. That's gonna hurt them winning the
Speaker 12: MVP Award because they're gonna say, hey, this guy's have
Speaker 12: twenty five, this guy's averaging twenty three. It's a Donovan
Speaker 12: Mitchell effect. Don Mitchell's not averaging thirty three. If he
Speaker 12: was averaging thirty three, it'd be a much bigger place.
Speaker 3: Do you think that he would be the MVP. No, yes,
Speaker 3: he wouldn't.
Speaker 12: Well, I'm only saying that because I think I'm going
Speaker 12: back to the thunder up ten to eleven, twelve games,
Speaker 12: in the West.
Speaker 3: Kay, So that was it.
Speaker 2: Calves got the best record? Did they have the best
Speaker 2: record in basketball? Do they still have it?
Speaker 7: Thunder has sixty three wins, Calves have sixty.
Speaker 2: Okay, well there for a while they had the best
Speaker 2: record in basketball. But you didn't hear anything about Donovan
Speaker 2: Mitchell because he wasn't putting up gaudy numbers. I mean,
Speaker 2: even joker, joker, what'd he take eighteen shots a game
Speaker 2: normally very economical and he has to do everything for
Speaker 2: his team everything. He's their best passer, best rebounder, and
Speaker 2: he's their best scorer.
Speaker 3: That's value.
Speaker 12: But yeah, Marto is very achem Elijahwan like. As far
Speaker 12: as the Nuggets in the Rockets, comparing those two teams,
Speaker 12: they don't have another All Star. Even though Jamal Murray's
Speaker 12: a really good postseason player, He's never made an All
Speaker 12: Star team. So it makes it that much easier to
Speaker 12: vote for somebody like Jogert that's putting up those numbers.
Speaker 2: All right, I got sidetracked here because we were talking
Speaker 2: about the best player in their respective sport. Any argument
Speaker 2: with Otani With baseball, he is standalone best player in
Speaker 2: the game. You want to put Aaron Judge in there
Speaker 2: one Sodo.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just figure I had to put him in there.
Speaker 2: Otani is global kind of McDavid I think, widely considered
Speaker 2: best player in the NHL. You know they'll be pushback
Speaker 2: on Mahomes. Is he the best player in the NFL. Like,
Speaker 2: it's really hard to say who's the best player in
Speaker 2: the NFL because Josh Allen you can make a case
Speaker 2: with what he did with that team after you know,
Speaker 2: they lost a lot of players, Stefan Diggs and he
Speaker 2: was wonderful. But Lamar Jackson's won a couple MVPs. Mahomes
Speaker 2: may not win another MVP. Could it be if you
Speaker 2: started your team right now today, would you take Patrick
Speaker 2: Mahomes over any other quarterback? Would you take Connor McDavid
Speaker 2: over anybody? Would you take Joker? Would you take Otani?
Speaker 2: I take O'tani Joker because of the age, maybe not,
Speaker 2: but Connor McDavid definitely Mahomes. See Mahomes, I just want
Speaker 2: him in the postseason. You know, it's just when it
Speaker 2: comes to and that's value, Yes, that's value.
Speaker 7: Yes, bony I asked Dylan, the graphics guy who knows
Speaker 7: hockey and he said, Connor McDavid. I think he finished
Speaker 7: third in the MVP last year to McKinnon, but he's
Speaker 7: still considered the best player in the sport. And Mahomes
Speaker 7: the past two years seventh and sixth in the MVP.
Speaker 7: But I think if it came down to it, everyone's
Speaker 7: gonna say Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. I still think
Speaker 7: you're gonna add Mahomes as your quarterback because you've seen
Speaker 7: what he could do on the biggest stage, and the
Speaker 7: other two have not even gotten to the biggest stage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's Tom Brady's stats. Aside from
Speaker 2: that one year with Randy Moss, I never focused on
Speaker 2: his stats. I just thought that guy, when you get
Speaker 2: to the playoffs, that's your MVP. Now, that doesn't mean
Speaker 2: how many MVPs did Brady win?
Speaker 3: Do we even know?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say three? Okay, three? Okay, I was just
Speaker 2: gonna say two, Yes, PAULI.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I have Tom Brady with three league MVPs, which
Speaker 7: means during his prime he didn't win it fourteen times.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're gonna hold that against it, well, but what'd
Speaker 2: you do the other fourteen years?
Speaker 3: Tom? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't know, I went to Super Bowl half my
Speaker 2: half my career. It's like Lebron Lebron half of his career,
Speaker 2: he's gone to the NBA Finals. They're close to that.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the remarkable. That's what I want, the
Speaker 2: consistency of year in and year out, not you know,
Speaker 2: you had a five year run or seven year run
Speaker 2: now pretty much an entire career where I was a
Speaker 2: threat to win another championship.
Speaker 7: Point You've said this one hundred times. The MVP, like
Speaker 7: the Heisman, is storyline based. It's not best player on Earth.
Speaker 7: If we gave out awards best player on Earth, you know,
Speaker 7: and not just based off this season, it'd be a
Speaker 7: different topic.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: If you got some suggestions, and is there another year
Speaker 2: or another portion in sports time that you remember that
Speaker 2: you had baseball, basketball, hockey and the NFL where you
Speaker 2: had a standalone one person and you said that guy's
Speaker 2: the best.
Speaker 3: Now, I was thinking about.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I don't know the year, but
Speaker 2: it would have been Sandy Kofax and Jim Brown were
Speaker 2: stand loan baseball and football. I don't know, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: guess at that time, would Bill Russell have been the
Speaker 2: standalone guy or would it have been Will Chamberlain. And
Speaker 2: then when it comes to uh in hockey back in
Speaker 2: this Gordie Howell.
Speaker 7: Maybe Yeah, Well I was looking at the mid to
Speaker 7: late eighties and you can make the case that late
Speaker 7: eighties Jerry Rice was the best player in football at
Speaker 7: any position. I mean he was first team All Pro
Speaker 7: many years in a row. Michael Jordan would have been
Speaker 7: the best basketball player, Wayne Gretzky the best hockey player.
Speaker 7: But baseball there wasn't a standout. I went through the
Speaker 7: MVPs the late eighties and there's not a lot of repeats.
Speaker 7: There's like Mike Schmidt and Andre Dawson and Jose you know,
Speaker 7: Roger Clemens, but not a guy who was just like
Speaker 7: Bonds in the nineties, I was ultra dominant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, maybe this audience they can come up
Speaker 2: with a kind of an era where you had to
Speaker 2: standalone that guy was the best player in his sport.
Speaker 2: Kevin in Austin, Hi, Kevin, what's on your mining today?
Speaker 13: We's VP. I just wanted to weigh in on the
Speaker 13: push push controversy, and then I had a question for
Speaker 13: the ministry humor in the back the push push is
Speaker 13: pretty simple to me. I mean, you're not allowed TJ.
Speaker 13: Watson not allowed to pick up Bryce Young and just
Speaker 13: carry him into the end zone for a safety. So
Speaker 13: just don't allow people to push them forward. But the
Speaker 13: overall question I've been thinking about this since yesterday is
Speaker 13: what and how much amount of food would the Minister
Speaker 13: of humor have at a Coastal Carolina game?
Speaker 3: M All right, how much would you? Now?
Speaker 2: Coastal Carolina is offering free food for their fans at
Speaker 2: their football games this year.
Speaker 5: I think I can do at least three hot dogs.
Speaker 5: I don't think I would do more than one nachos,
Speaker 5: and i'd probably see if they had a mountain dew
Speaker 5: or a cocas, somepthing or drink wise, but yeah, I
Speaker 5: think I can do could do three or four hot
Speaker 5: dogs pretty easily because they don't give you the giant ones.
Speaker 5: They'll give you the regular, you know, average size one,
Speaker 5: so spread it out every two winnings of a hot dog.
Speaker 3: I could do four. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: Pull A bunch of years ago, Mark Cuban of the
Speaker 7: MAVs was nice enough to let us use his family
Speaker 7: box for a game, and it had a spread of
Speaker 7: food seat.
Speaker 8: And you were right there with his parents were there
Speaker 8: like yeah, it was like the Cuban family, Oh hey,
Speaker 8: and us and there was tons of food and drink.
Speaker 7: Fritzy was not satisfied with the spread that mister Cuban
Speaker 7: put out for us and went to the concession stand
Speaker 7: and spent twenty four dollars on himself.
Speaker 5: And then there were certain things I was looking for,
Speaker 5: and it just u I still had the other stuff too,
Speaker 5: but I was like, you know, I just was looking
Speaker 5: for a certain type of I don't know if there
Speaker 5: was certain hamburger I wanted, had a craving for a
Speaker 5: big pretzel and a mountain dew. Those things weren't in
Speaker 5: the old suite there, so I went rogue a little bit.
Speaker 3: You can't order things in the suitet.
Speaker 5: I don't want to be that guy. It's like, I
Speaker 5: noticed you don't have the Can you make a special
Speaker 5: cookie for me?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 8: See, by the way, the tray of food that Ted
Speaker 8: came back with. I don't know what has done since then,
Speaker 8: but if that was twenty four dollars, it would easily
Speaker 8: be three hundred and fifty dollars today because he had
Speaker 8: like a cheeseburger, a chicken, sandwich fries, curly fries, onion,
Speaker 8: rings of pretzel, a mountain dew and like.
Speaker 3: Vanilla ice creams norstfielder great. You see he sat down
Speaker 3: and we were like, damn dude.
Speaker 5: Cardboard the cardboard box was starting to kind of tear,
Speaker 5: holding on.
Speaker 1: Definitely to the handler.
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Speaker 2: noticed this due to the heavy deferred contracts that the
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Speaker 2: Then it's Theankees two ninety three, Phillies to eighty four,
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Speaker 2: two twenty Atlanta boy Atlanta's off to a terrible start
Speaker 2: and injuries to fourteen Podres two to eight, Cubs one
Speaker 2: ninety six, Diamondbacks one ninety five. Not many times did
Speaker 2: I tune into a Texas Ranger game, but but I did.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 2: A friend of mine was who watches a lot of baseball.
Speaker 2: He said, hey, gave me the channel. I said, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: Rangers are on. I thought he was talking about hockey,
Speaker 2: so I'm like, uh, this is baseball. He goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: look what's going on. Nathan Valdi through ninety nine pitches,
Speaker 2: he allowed four hits. He had eight strikeouts. First complete
Speaker 2: game of the season. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I'm watching a pitcher completing game and it's a big deal.
Speaker 2: Beat the Reds one to nothing. He has five complete
Speaker 2: games since the start of twenty twenty two. Only two
Speaker 2: other active pitchers have more.
Speaker 3: Stat of the.
Speaker 10: Day sat the day that stead of the day, stead
Speaker 10: of the day, it comes that what stat.
Speaker 3: Of the day?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you tune in to watch Nathan Devoldi close out
Speaker 2: the Reds ninety nine pitches. Well, if he got to
Speaker 2: one hundred, they probably would have had to take him out. Yes, Baul.
Speaker 7: Complete games are so rare these days. You almost wonder
Speaker 7: what the manager's thinking. Having his star in April through
Speaker 7: a complete game. That's it almost be questioned.
Speaker 2: And it's a one nothing game, and I kept thinking,
Speaker 2: all right, you've got to come out because you you know,
Speaker 2: you're you're worried about him tiring. And then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, you know, the Reds got some firepower and
Speaker 2: left him in. I thought, yeah, I'm trying to remember
Speaker 2: last time I saw a complete game. I didn't see
Speaker 2: the entire complete game, but I saw the end of
Speaker 2: a complete game. So congratulations Sue, Nathan Ivoldi, Tim and
Speaker 2: Vermont Hi, Tim, what's on your mind?
Speaker 4: Hey, damn, A couple of things for you. Favorite Dell
Speaker 4: Chilmer film nineteen ninety two, Thunderheart Awesome. I don't know
Speaker 4: if you've ever seen it for sure. And then the
Speaker 4: second the second thing is Liam McNeely going to the
Speaker 4: NBA from yukon thirty four percent shooting percentage as a freshman,
Speaker 4: and I don't think so, probably ought to stay another year.
Speaker 4: What do you think?
Speaker 2: You know, they want to go, and he showed that
Speaker 2: he had a game. But you know today's NBA. Is
Speaker 2: he gonna splay time with the G League? It's going
Speaker 2: to get any playing time. But these guys are ready
Speaker 2: to go. Yeah, Marvin and an NBA. It's really an
Speaker 2: age thing. I always go back to Dalton Connect. If
Speaker 2: he was read Shepherd's age, he would have gone third overall.
Speaker 2: Well because he's nineteen. Those guys, you know what, Hey,
Speaker 2: let's get these guys at nineteen and hopefully they're an
Speaker 2: All star by the time they're twenty three, when they
Speaker 2: should be rookies in the NBA. Also, if Dalton Connect
Speaker 2: had been European, he probably would have been top five
Speaker 2: pick Connected.
Speaker 3: Yes, Connect, Yeah, yes, Paul.
Speaker 7: I'm looking at a mock draft that came out this morning,
Speaker 7: and the first thirteen people in the mock draft are
Speaker 7: nineteen or younger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let me see JJ in Cincinnati. Hi, JJ,
Speaker 2: hey man, hey, real quick.
Speaker 4: That's Val Kilmer.
Speaker 3: Movie I always liked was wonder jj MI on a speakerphone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you are giving the dog a shower real quick.
Speaker 1: We're all in.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I got my hands over.
Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough priorities, okay.
Speaker 13: Okay, Wonderland uh and Spartan for Val Kima was one.
Speaker 3: Of the best. Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not too familiar with his filmography, but I
Speaker 2: thought he was spectacular as Jim Morrison.
Speaker 3: He was Jim Morrison in the Doors.
Speaker 8: That's one of those performances where you forget what the
Speaker 8: real Jim Morrison looks like, because now he looks like
Speaker 8: Val Kilner's version of it.
Speaker 3: That's a great point. Yeah, that's how good he was.
Speaker 3: Yeah he was. I didn't like the casting of Meg Ryan,
Speaker 3: but you know, it's okay.
Speaker 2: She's more of a cutesy Harry met Sally for me
Speaker 2: America's sweetheart there for a while. But Jim Morrison leather pants,
Speaker 2: he took on the persona there, Uh Dave in Indianapolis,
Speaker 2: Hi Dave.
Speaker 4: The five nine five.
Speaker 13: As far as most valuable baseball players in the eighties,
Speaker 13: it's gotta be cal Ripton Jr.
Speaker 4: Who won the World Series in eighty three. Mister Ireland.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if people considered him the best player.
Speaker 2: I think he was one of the most popular. Did
Speaker 2: win an MVP. He won an MVP for a last
Speaker 2: place team, him and Andre Dawson. We could have finished
Speaker 2: last without you, you know that. But yeah, yeah, trying
Speaker 2: to find an era where you go there was a
Speaker 2: clear delineation of that's the best player in everybody else
Speaker 2: in your respective sports Hockey, Baseball, basketball, football, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 12: Early nineties, is it? Jordan Bonds, Gretzky.
Speaker 3: Okay, And then we're leaving out one sport.
Speaker 12: Oh, you guys got to come up with football. Maybe
Speaker 12: Barry Sanders, Emma Smith, but there's no clear in nineteen
Speaker 12: ninety two, ninety three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark Sanchez, former quarterback, will join us. We'll talk
Speaker 2: about the rule changes as well more of your phone
Speaker 2: calls as well.
Speaker 3: Hour two on this Wednesday, right around the corner