1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 1: I listened to the black guy who tips Because Rod 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: and Karen are hot. 3 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: This question of shame seems important in escalation. Why does 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 2: one person approach a situation and want reconciliation in peace 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: while another approaches the same situation it needs to shun 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: destroy and thereby Phiel victorious. The business of psychological studies 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: is a messy one. 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: There are so many and. 9 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: They contradict each other. But like poetry, they can stimulate thought. 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: I read a study by Jane Price, Tangi and Patricia E. 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: Wagners published in nineteen ninety six, and another by Hadair 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: Berendt and Rachel ben Ari written sixteen years later that 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: pointed to a similar answer. Both teams felt that people 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: who come at conflict from guilt approach it very differently 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: than people who come. 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: At it from shame. In fact, both studies found. 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: That people who come from guilt from guilt very much 18 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: want to negotiate, are able to apologize and admit fault, 19 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: can make concessions, and are invested in positive resolution. People 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: coming from shame, on the other hand, direct anger, aggression, 21 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: and blame towards the other party. This difference was explained 22 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: by the assessment that people who feel guilt experience less 23 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: emotional stress and anxiety than those who feel shame and 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: guilty people can therefore focus more on the implications of 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: their own actions on others. They found that those who 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: feel shame are also feel more threatened and are deeply 27 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: concerned about what other people think of them. Barent and 28 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: ben Ami wrote in the Journal of Conflict Resolution. Guilt 29 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: plays a pro social function in strengthening relationships. It encourages 30 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: taking responsibility, motivates a mandatory behaviors such as apology or confession, 31 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: leads to higher quality solutions to crises, and is associated 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: with more constructive anger management. Guilt also associated with positive 33 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: empathy and the ability to acknowledge and understand other's points 34 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: of view. In contrast, shame is associated with response that 35 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: are injurious to social relationships. Hey, welcome to the Blackout 36 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: Tips podcast. I'm your host Rod, joined us always by 37 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: my co host Karen, and we're here on a Sunday afternoon. 38 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: Ready to do some podcasting with us with you? You 39 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: can find us on Spotify. Look on Spotify, put in 40 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: the Blackout Tips follow us on Spotify so you get 41 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: that fresh Blackout Tips in your podcast. Every time that 42 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 2: we post a new episode. I use Spotify for my 43 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: podcast now, so I know how it goes. All right, 44 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: them all over there. 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You can leave us voicemail 55 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: seven O four five five seven zero one eighty six. 56 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: You will get cut off at two minutes, just letting 57 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: you know. So. 58 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: Today's excerpt is from Conflict Is Not Abuse, Overstating Harm, 59 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: Community Responsibility, and the Duty of Repair by Sarah Schulman, 60 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: a great book that really changed the way I. 61 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: Look at life. 62 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: So that part there was about like conflict resolution and 63 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: how people approach it. And the reason this is on 64 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: my mind heavy today is because I watched the Red 65 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: Table Talk with Will Smith and where after his reconciliation 66 00:03:54,640 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: with Janet Hubert after the twenty seven year long mostly 67 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: I will say, mostly one sided feud, and to me, 68 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: it kind of cleared up a lot of the way 69 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: I looked at that because I think framing is everything, 70 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: you know, it's content creators we have to think about, Like, 71 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: we think about more than just I'm gonna do a 72 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: podcast or how's the podcast gonna look? 73 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: What's it? How are people gonna receive it? 74 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, thousands of hours on this microphone, we now know 75 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: like if you say it this way, people will take 76 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: it that way. If you tell it this, You can 77 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: say the same thing a different way, make the same point, 78 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: and people will be more understanding or less understanding, you know. 79 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: And so I really did enjoy that Red Table Talk. 80 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: I know you haven't watched it, but I'm. 81 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: A big Red Table fan or whatever. 82 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: I don't watch them all, but I watch a lot 83 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: of them because I think what Jada and them are 84 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: doing with that is people just don't understand. It's so 85 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: much more revolutionary than what they're giving it credit for. 86 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: In a world where everyone thinks everything is a debate, 87 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: everything is a divide. Everything is about slamming down the 88 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: next person, like they don't do that, and it's and 89 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: the pressure to do that type of show, I think 90 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: is a lot higher than people think, like to do 91 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: a show where you go, we're gonna talk about conflict, 92 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: but we're not gonna try to stunt on each other. 93 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: Like people don't have that in them. And something that 94 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: I've come to the conclusion is that social media has 95 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: affected and infected people more than they think, because now 96 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 3: even people that are well meaning are go the first 97 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: time something happens or the first time somebody does something 98 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: somebody doesn't like, it's automatically fuck you, erased, get them 99 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 3: out of here, boom, Like it's almost like you don't 100 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 3: want to have any types of conversation. Now, there are 101 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 3: some topics that come up that you have to be 102 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: like that, don't get me wrong, but most topics can 103 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 3: you can have a discussion, you can talk about it, 104 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: it can be up for debate. 105 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 4: There are some things that you can let agreed to 106 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 4: disagree on. 107 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: And it's not life and death, but everybody treats every 108 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: situation and every time somebody falls out as though it 109 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: is literally life and death. And that's not a fact. 110 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. 111 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: Everyone has the words now to justify whatever they do. 112 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: So you know, that's that's a thing. There's two sides 113 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: to men normally, at least two sides to most discussions. 114 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: And when a person is kind of decided on the things, 115 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 2: that's all it is to it. 116 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: The yeah, and also the thing about sorry to go 117 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: back to thing about life and death. Some people have 118 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 3: to make everything about life and death like that, even 119 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 3: if it's not, because if they don't, nobody will pay 120 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: them any attention. And they know it. 121 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 122 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: So, like I said, I did watch it because I 123 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: just think it's great. I don't I haven't watched the reunion. 124 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: On HBO Max yet. I may get around to watching it. 125 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: I may not. I don't know. 126 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: But I was interested in the Janet Heubert thing because 127 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: you know, we've covered Jarden Heubert. 128 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: On the show, and like they've had an issue for. 129 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: Twenty seven years, right, and during that twenty seven years, 130 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: I mean, she said some shit where we would playing 131 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: on the show and be like, y'all don't know what 132 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: you gotta Sometimes you gotta let some shit go, Like 133 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: even if it's that thing where even if you're right, 134 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: you can go so far that. 135 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: You've become wrong. 136 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: Yep. I don't want to hear that. 137 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: But it's like saying someone stepped on my shoes. That 138 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: is fucked up. I killed that person that Okay, now 139 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: we're looking at you, like, damn that was I mean, 140 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: I know they stepped on your shoes, and did you 141 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: have to murder them in cold blood? 142 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 3: You know? 143 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: Right? 144 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: You took it to the extreme. And it's one of 145 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: those points where sometimes you can be to the point 146 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: where you are the victim, but you can also be 147 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: to the point where you are also the bully in 148 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: the situation. Why being a victim at the same time. 149 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just interesting because that's what conflict is abused. 150 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: Conflict is not abuses about as a book. And like 151 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: I said, it really rocked everything I thought about because 152 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: I had just, without thinking about it, been accepting these 153 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: norms on the internet as this is how life should be, 154 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: this is a better way than society is. And it 155 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: was turning out like, nah, someone who has been traumatized 156 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: does not have the right to do any and everything 157 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: to people, right, Like, it doesn't make you right because 158 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: I think BOSSI told me this one time, but she 159 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: was pointing out something. She was like, just because you've 160 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: been wronged doesn't make you right. And I was like, 161 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: that's why you're a poet, you know what I'm saying, 162 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: death poetry, slam. That's why you the best, because there 163 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: is a measure of that where it's like I identify 164 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: and I empathize that you're being done wrong. But then 165 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: twenty seven years later, I'm like, I don't know, so 166 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: I was, and like I am a person that is you. 167 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: Know, I got that libor energy. 168 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: I got that I can kind of see things from 169 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: people's point of view. I have that gearing where I 170 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: approach things normally from a place of okay, how did 171 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: my actions affect you? Even if I don't feel like 172 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: what I did was wrong, maybe it was wrong in 173 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: some way I don't understand, Or maybe maybe my story 174 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 2: should not overtake your story, you know, like you have 175 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: a right to your story too. I don't get to 176 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: tell you how to feel about what I say and 177 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: do you know? And it's hard because I also have 178 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: a fighter in me that wants to justify my shit. Well, 179 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, hold up, now, you know I didn't step 180 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: on your Draord's own purpose before you stab me, you 181 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like I want to I have 182 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: that part of me too, and it's a balancing act. 183 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: But I think what was so beautiful about that episode 184 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 2: of Red Table Talk is that you were watching somebody 185 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 2: do the thing that people claim nobody should ever do. 186 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 2: You're watching somebody though I'm gonna go high, I'm not 187 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 2: gonna go low, you know which, in fairness, he hasn't 188 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: really go on lower her in twenty seven years. Like 189 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff that people have swept under 190 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: the rug because we're now at that point where it's like, 191 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: she is a black woman, she is dark skin, and 192 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned, there is nothing you can 193 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: ever say about this. It's like, so she could not 194 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: have possibly been an asshole, right and also been a 195 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: dark skinned black woman. It's impossible. Everything she says and 196 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: does is justified to you everything, because I remember when 197 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 2: we were you know, when she would be blasting him 198 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 2: on social media and it would be a lot of 199 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: like homophobic shit. 200 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 3: It will be kids attack us. 201 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: Yes, coming at Jada, blaming him for her son's suicide attempt. 202 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: Like I don't know, like for all the people the 203 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: team petty people. They're like, in this situation, it's lucky 204 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: that two people weren't petty, you know what I mean, 205 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: because you know, if someone will have brought up like, 206 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: well he got money and all this shit, and I'm like, 207 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: first of all, they both have money. 208 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: She's never not had a job. 209 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: She may not have the career that she thought she 210 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 2: was gonna have, which I totally understand, but it's not 211 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: that she is, you know, destitute or whatever. But you know, 212 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: like they everyone could afford some therapy. If you can 213 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: afford some therapy, they can afford it. But I was like, 214 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: it's also a bunch of rich people that are petty 215 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 2: and assholes and unrelenting fifty cent rich as fuck. 216 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: He don't. 217 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 2: He never wasted the opportunity to be a piece of shit, 218 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: So give credit where it's due. Like this dude felt like, 219 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: this is a conflict I want to resolve. And what 220 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: I noticed about it was he came at it from 221 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 2: that guilt place and she came at it from the 222 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 2: shame place. And I think on the Internet, most people, 223 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 2: regardless of what they said about voter shaming, most people 224 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 2: identify with using shame, not not owning guilt. 225 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 3: Yes, because there is a difference in like you explain 226 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 3: how you approach. Sometimes you're going to have a person 227 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 3: that has that has a mixture of them, both guilt 228 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: and shame a mixture, but most people fall in one 229 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: or the other. And I think that's very hard for 230 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 3: people to wrap their minds around, particularly when people don't 231 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 3: know which one they're falling into. And some people might 232 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 3: start off with guilt and then turn to shame because 233 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: they don't want to take responsibility for their actions. And 234 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 3: they know if you say, yes, I'm guilty, I did 235 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 3: this action. And the thing is when you do guilt, 236 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: the behavior has to change and truth be told. Most 237 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: people don't want to change their behavior, and only time 238 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 3: will tell if everybody's sincere. And it's one of those 239 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 3: things where you know everybody, but like this, everybody says 240 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: that everybody takes the high road. But you let the 241 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: internet tells you nobody takes the high road with then 242 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 3: why on everybody out here just punching and cutting people 243 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: and acting the food all the time If nobody never, never, never, 244 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 3: never takes the high road. A lot of people have 245 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 3: a lot of people take the high road in their lives. 246 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 3: They just want to make that online. You have to, 247 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 3: or else you would you always would be walking through 248 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: life with a constant conflict. 249 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 4: Always there's some people to do this in real life. 250 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 3: Always met always, always don't want to take responsibility. Everybody's 251 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: every everything is somebody's the spot. And guess what, we 252 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: don't like those fucking people. 253 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I think. 254 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: So, you know, the history of that beef is essentially 255 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: because I think that's the other thing he did that 256 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: was smart. It's also the thing they did that was 257 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: smart on the Red Table talk. They actually didn't go 258 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 2: into the specifics because it honestly would have turned into 259 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: like people going, well, yeah, she did some fucked up 260 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 2: shit too, and and so you really don't want that 261 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: because if you're seeking to give someone closure, if you're 262 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,239 Speaker 2: seeking to have closure yourself, and you're seeking resolution, rehashing 263 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: the initial conflict is not normally gonna get you back 264 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 2: to that. Like where do we go from here is 265 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: more important than how did like where did we go wrong? 266 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: After something that long ago? 267 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: When y'all don't even really interact anymore and you're not 268 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: currently doing the behavior, it's kind of like, okay, so. 269 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: Then what can we do next? You know? 270 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: But I don't know if you remember, you know, Fresh 271 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: Prince of bel Air TV show, first two seasons, Dark 272 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: Skin un. 273 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: Viv, Jane and Hubert. 274 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: Third season, they switched to this light skinned woman who 275 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: becomes Aunt Viv. They make like one joke on the 276 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: show about it, and that's it, like this just flipped 277 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: out the role. But Will Smith basically they asked him, like, 278 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: what happened to dark Skin Unviv? What happened to Jenna 279 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: Hubert on a radio show And he made a flippant 280 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: comment about she wanted it to be the Aunt Viv 281 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: of bel Air show and you can't have that. I'm 282 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: the Fresh Prince, you know, and you know, I think 283 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: he was either twenty one or twenty three at the time, 284 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: don't quote me exactly, but flipping offhanded remark, and that 285 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: basically started her for twenty seven years being like, man, 286 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: fuck this dude him forever, Fuck him loudly, fuck him 287 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: to the tune of like I said, saying some some 288 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: some kind of way out there shit about him, saying 289 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: some shit about you know, Jada saying, you know, it 290 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: was like any opportunity she got to kind of like 291 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: roast his ass or talk bad about him. She would 292 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: show up, man, she would, you know, and it was 293 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: funny because we would play the videos on the show 294 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: and I was like, I was like, she has so 295 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: much talent and she's so funny, and even when she 296 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: was talking shit, you can't help her laugh, you know what. 297 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: I mean, because she's just so good at her presentations. 298 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, listen, I had to give. 299 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: Credit where it's dude, you know what I mean, Like 300 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: this is blectress jenets Hubert, and I was like, here 301 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: we go. But you know, at the same time, it 302 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: was like almost becoming farcical, you know what I mean, 303 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: because there is a point where it's like, man, it's 304 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: been so many. 305 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: Years, are you not being a out to move on? 306 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: Or are you not moving on? 307 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, because there is the difference in I don't know 308 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 3: about y'all, but a lot of people, including my family, 309 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 3: we have people old aunts and uncles and shit like that. 310 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: Then brothers and sisters that fell out you know before 311 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: you for your black ass was even born, and don't 312 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: even remember why they're mad. All they know is they're 313 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: just mad. Well, then it comes to a point where 314 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: it's just being silly and y'all holding on to the anger, 315 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: just to hold on to the anger, particularly if you 316 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: can't even remember why you're mad. 317 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 4: But then the question is is it really that important? 318 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 319 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: Another quick thing I want to put aside is Alfonso 320 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: Rovero wasn't on the set when Janet Hubert was there, 321 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: but she's gone on Twitter and said that that was 322 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: just him. He had to work or something, and there's 323 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: no beef there. It's our squash. She said, let it go, sweetie. 324 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: We have so hopefully it is what it is, and 325 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: it is you know what it looks like, and it's straight. 326 00:16:55,800 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, so basically it was like season two they weren't. 327 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: Janet decided felt like, I'm not getting paid enough. We're 328 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 2: not getting paid enough. We need to basically kind of 329 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 2: like you organize and almost boycott and negotiate the show, 330 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: like we all hold out together, we'll get higher paid. 331 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: Will Smith was like when she came to him, she 332 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: was like, you know, you got to kind of be 333 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 2: the face of this because any individual one of us 334 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: that does this is pretty much out of here. So 335 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 2: if you're the face of this at twenty one, you're a. 336 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 3: Lot of respone year old. 337 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, at twenty one, then then then we'll get 338 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: the raise. And you know, I think to a certain extent, 339 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: he didn't even understand his power at that age. Uh, 340 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: And he definitely didn't know he was going to go 341 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: on to become this Will Smith that is, you know, 342 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: fifty and obviously got all the shit. 343 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 3: Now, yeah, most people don't. I mean, twenty one is 344 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 3: super super super young. 345 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: Well, there's also other mitigating factors, like he was broke, 346 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: which nobody really knew, but he owed money to the 347 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: r rest. He hadn't paid his taxes, so all his 348 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: rap money was gone despite being one of the biggest 349 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: acts and rap he so he so he needed the 350 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: money from the show too, and wasn't trying to rock 351 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: the boat. He wasn't like and that's the thing about 352 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 2: our perceptions. We perceive people to be in a much 353 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: higher place than they are. Sometimes it's like, yeah, go 354 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: in there and tell them this. It's like, nigga, I'm 355 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 2: scared I won't get paid, Like you think you're scared 356 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: you won't get paid, And that's the only thing on 357 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: the table. 358 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: But it's me too. 359 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: And but he and for the record, he never they 360 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 2: never go into this on the show. They never go 361 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 2: into this in the conflict that they had right between 362 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: him and Janet. They never talked about it, which I 363 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: think was smart because when what she was looking for 364 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: would not have helped with him being like, look, man, 365 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: I was in a bad place too, and you know 366 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 2: it was it was just no, you I have to. 367 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: Take all the responsibility to get under that. 368 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it would have just reset things, you know 369 00:18:59,200 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: what I mean. 370 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: So that was a big part of it. 371 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: Then she also talks about how she was in an 372 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: abusive relationship at the time. 373 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: Her husband was abusive to her. 374 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: He wasn't working and so she felt like, you know, 375 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: she was showing up to the set and you know, 376 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 2: the joy wasn't dead for her, you know. And it's 377 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 2: funny because I also remember stories from the time from 378 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 2: people that worked on the set that you know, the 379 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 2: sources and shit. And it's funny because the same way 380 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 2: for Will that you don't know what's going on in 381 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 2: his life. 382 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: People didn't know that was going on. 383 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: In her life, and so instead they were like, she 384 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 2: was haughty, she was hard to work with. 385 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: We will be having fun on the set. 386 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 2: She would show up this this black woman from Broadway, 387 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: this classically trained actor when you know, some of the 388 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: other people on the show weren't classically trained, and she's 389 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 2: like looking down on us. And they felt she was 390 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: jealous of Will for having a bigger spotlight and you know, 391 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: not not really earning, you know. And this is because 392 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: another thing people forget. This was back in the day 393 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: when rappers didn't act so like now it's kind of 394 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 2: a given, like you see a rapper in the TV 395 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: show or something's no big deal. Back then, there was 396 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 2: beef between traditional actors and rappers. 397 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, they felt like you playing in our field. 398 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like this is like she didn't know 399 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: he was going to grow into and develop into this 400 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 2: great actor that you know, dozens of movies later were like, wow, 401 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 2: Will Smith, he's a household name. At the time, it 402 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 2: was the fresh Prince rapper wants to be an actor. 403 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 2: This won't work, ha ha ha. You know, oh, he 404 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 2: just it's a goof. He thinks it's funny to go 405 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 2: pretend to do what the people do for a living 406 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 2: and train for so I could see how the insecurities 407 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: of him, the insecurities of the people on. 408 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: The set read her. 409 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 2: You know, solemnness and stoicness, as, oh, she's just looking 410 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: down at us. She doesn't want to be part of 411 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: our family, our community on the set, and he was 412 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: a very silly person and stuff, and so it seemed 413 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 2: like to him it was at that age it was like, Okay, 414 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 2: well then she can go, like not get rid of her, 415 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: not let me go talk to Quincy Jones. 416 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: I don't want her on the show. Nothing like that. 417 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: But like when she went to. 418 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: The next season, they offered her a contract that was like, 419 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: you're go only be in ten out of twenty four episodes, 420 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 2: which is ridiculous, right, She was a core part of 421 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: the show. She was in every episode before that, So 422 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: it was a power play. You tried to get this money. 423 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: You've been acting kind of hard to get on the 424 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: set towards people. People don't like you. You and will 425 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: ain't getting along. They told her at some point, don't 426 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: come out of your dressing room then unless you will 427 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: to just come out for scenes if you're gonna basically 428 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: be around, you know, killing the vibe and all this shit. 429 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: Once again, they them not knowing all the stuff going 430 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: into and probably not even caring about all that shit 431 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: because That's the thing about work and jobs. People normally 432 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: don't really give a fuck about you unless you can 433 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 2: just do your job right. 434 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 4: That's why I don't share shit. 435 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, people got nothing because it don't matter because at 436 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 3: the end of the day is gonna be getting back 437 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: to work. 438 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 2: So they was like, you can get the fuck out 439 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: because we're you're ruining the good times. The show is successful, 440 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: everyone loves it, Will, and everyone's cutting up every you know, 441 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: before the show, During the show, they're having a good time, 442 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: and then here you come, super serious, dragging everyone down. Madge, 443 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: You're not getting enough money. That's how they perceived it. Now, 444 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: like I said, she's this is the first time I 445 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 2: really even heard her explain the stuff about the abuse. 446 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: This is the first time I really heard her explain 447 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 2: about the contract thing. And you know, Will didn't stand 448 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: up for her. Then on top of that, Will makes 449 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: this joke on the radio like not too long after that, 450 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: and so understandably she was like, man, fuck this nigga 451 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: straight up forever, you know what I mean, which totally 452 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: makes sense to me. But then, like I said, twenty 453 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 2: seven years go by and they do this thirty reunion, 454 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 2: thirtieth anniversary reunion of the show, and I guess Will 455 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: who has mostly avoided this conflict. 456 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: He's never done tip for Tag. 457 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: Even when she talks about Jada, he wouldn't talk about her, 458 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 2: which to me symbolized It made me think this is 459 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 2: something that he has wanted. It's bothered him, and he's 460 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: felt that he played a role in it, regardless of 461 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 2: how much how big of a role she would say 462 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: he played and how small of a role he would 463 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: probably think he played. 464 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: He clearly felt guilt about that shit, That's my guess. 465 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 2: Because someone come at you for like that for twenty 466 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: like you, it's human to pop off once in a 467 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 2: while like yo, man, fuck this person or whatever. 468 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, It's human. 469 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: But he felt some kind of way about it, or 470 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: he just hoped that, you know, something will happen in 471 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: her life and she'll be able to move on from 472 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 2: it or whatever. But she never really was able to 473 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: and he was never able to like just quote unquote 474 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 2: high road out of it. So they come to this 475 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: reunion and he basically was like, look. 476 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: Man, I don't know how we. 477 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: Can do this reunion if we don't have Janet involved, 478 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 2: because it's gonna look fucked up number one, and it's 479 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 2: gonna be fucked up. Yes, she's a huge part of 480 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 2: the show. People remember her forever for that dance. Like 481 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 2: you know, people, she's still a lot of that's Aunt 482 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: Viv When you see her face, you can't take that 483 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 2: away from her. So they knew going in that they 484 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 2: were gonna have to have to sit down. And what 485 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: I thought was interesting about the sit down was she 486 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: used a lot of plural which. 487 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: Made me feel like. 488 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: Will was the face of a bigger machine to her, 489 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: cause you know, at the end of the day, Quincy Jones, 490 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 2: like the people show running that shit are not Will Smith. 491 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 2: She felt like she was blackballed from the industry. That's 492 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: clearly not Will Smith. Will Smith's not calling every set, 493 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: Hey don't work with Jennon Hubert. So they're like, he 494 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: didn't help, and he definitely harmed her when he made 495 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: that qui that quick remark, that quip that that you know, 496 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 2: that little thing that a twenty one year old, twenty 497 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: three year old said, fuck, you know, derailed a lot 498 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: of the stuff that she felt she had coming in life, 499 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 2: you know. And the thing is, you don't know what 500 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 2: she would have had or whatever, and I dig on 501 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: IMDb and look, she stayed with a job. So it 502 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: wasn't as like people tried to turn it into something 503 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: like and then she just disappeared. 504 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't look. I was like, oh, she keep a job. 505 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: But you know, but it's that thing like maybe she 506 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 2: would have been Harriet Winslow and and we wouldn't have 507 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 2: seen her anywhere else really, or maybe she would have 508 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 2: been maybe she wouldn't have been. It's not like the 509 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 2: sitcom mom role was this very lucrative role that just 510 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: kept you working in the spotlight for life. Like a lot, 511 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: especially for black women. There's a lot of black women 512 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 2: that we remember fondly as like. 513 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: Wow, what a great actor. We grew up on this actress. 514 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: And you know, like Marla Gibbs doesn't become the superstar 515 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: we think. 516 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: She deserves to be. 517 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: Jackie Harry doesn't become that superstar we think she should be, 518 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: and then in some cases Queen Latifa turns that into. 519 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: A movie starring roles. 520 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 2: There's like it's a crapshoot, to be honest, you don't know, 521 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: but what you don't want. 522 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: To do with the fragility of a career like that, 523 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: especially as a. 524 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: Black woman, a dark skinned actress, you don't want that 525 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: albatross hovering over you. 526 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: I'm hard to work with. 527 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 2: And that's the thing in Hollywood where a lot of 528 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,959 Speaker 2: times people kind of they basically lie. So when someone's 529 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: difficult to work with, there's like Hollywood code. 530 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: It's like an ongoing joke almost. 531 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 2: But when you do an interview, you see like a 532 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 2: late night show and it's with Jennifer Lawrence, and they'll 533 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: be like, so, how was it working with and they'll, 534 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: you know, whatever this person is, they ever come out 535 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: and say it was bad. 536 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: Ever, like they'll say. 537 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: What they'll do is they'll say little co words like, oh, 538 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: she's very passionate. And that's inside Hollywood speak of oh 539 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: she's a bit like I hated working with her. But 540 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 2: you but you never swipe at that person's career because 541 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 2: you might be the person that fucked them over, you 542 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 2: know what I mean, whether you meant to or not. 543 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: Because people are always looking for a reason not to 544 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: work with people. 545 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and for some reason, they always look for reason 546 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,479 Speaker 3: not to work with men because there are a lot 547 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 3: of assholes men that it's publicly known they're hard to 548 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 3: work with and everybody keeps working with them niggas. 549 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: Right, And so I think time has changed to like 550 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 2: we've come to this woke place now where people really 551 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 2: the same people that mock Janet Hubert for losing that 552 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 2: job are now in a place where societies come around 553 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: to be like, well, black women are marginalized, they're more 554 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: pushed out, they have so much against them. Why would 555 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: anyone ever want to add to that? How can you 556 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: be a good person to add to that? 557 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: Now? 558 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 2: Twenty seven years ago, no nobody was thinking like that 559 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: for the most part period, you know what I mean. 560 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: So you know, it's a lot of woker than that 561 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: happening now. It's like, how did he not know that 562 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 2: at twenty three? It's like, how did you not know 563 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: that at twenty three? How did you not know that 564 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 2: five years ago? How did you you know? 565 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: How did people not know that ten years ago? 566 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: Like a lot of learning had to be done, and 567 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 2: a lot of reframing the way people look at society 568 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 2: had to be done. I think if you didn't have 569 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: like the Me Too movement, you wouldn't have this reconciliation 570 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 2: moment right now? 571 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 3: Agreed? 572 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: So, uh, at any rate, what was beautiful about it. 573 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: He never even attempts to explain or defend himself. 574 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 3: No reason to. 575 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: Because she had a burden she had to get off, 576 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: and he just carried it like he was like he. 577 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: Cried and stuff. It got emotional. She cried a little bit. 578 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: They hugged a few times. 579 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: But I mean when I say he ate it, he 580 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: just fucking ate that shit, like just like a good 581 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: like a like a person that is more about resolving 582 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: the conflict and trying to rehash the conflict or trying 583 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: to be right. 584 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And that is an undervalued thing because if 585 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 3: you are the type of person where you're like, hey, 586 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 3: I just want to get to the point that this 587 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 3: is resolved. A lot of times you have to navigate 588 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 3: a lot of through a lot of emotions that a 589 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 3: lot of people just naturally get stuck on and they 590 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: don't want to move past those points. And Will had it, 591 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 3: in my opinion on the outside, look at it. He 592 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 3: had his eye on the bigger picture. What is the 593 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: bigger picture? Getting this thing resolved? That is the bigger picture. 594 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 3: And if that means I have to eat this, so 595 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 3: be it. You know, if that means I have to 596 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 3: sit here and just listen to her regardless that if 597 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 3: I agree or disagree, so be it. And the average 598 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 3: person does not have that within them to actually look, 599 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 3: what is the outcome that I want? 600 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 4: Because the thing is you want closure, and the thing is. 601 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: Only time will tell if it's a complete closure on 602 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 3: her side, Only time will tell, because if it's not 603 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 3: a closure, she'll be back at it, like like if 604 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 3: this was just to pretend, But if it's a true closure, 605 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 3: everybody will move on and this is what we'll want it. 606 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, because you know, the thing that most 607 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: people either haven't dealt with or don't understand is like, 608 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: sometimes the same tactics that a person that may have 609 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 2: genuinely been harmed uses, sometimes a malignant. 610 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: Narcissist will use. 611 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: And so you know, you obviously hope that's not the case, 612 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: because I'd much rather people are healed and heard and felt, 613 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,239 Speaker 2: you know, whole, then for people to be like, I'm 614 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: gonna just use the words of victimology to like being 615 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: this person to my will, and normally what a narcissist 616 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: they don't they never have the closure. So if it 617 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: really is fake, like you said it, then she'll be 618 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: back in a month saying Will Smith ain't shit, he's gay. 619 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: My father, Robero, they both be fucking each other, and 620 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: Jada pinkodi ism man and all this. You know we'll 621 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 2: be getting all that shit again. But you know, I 622 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: really sincerely hope that that's not what it is. It's 623 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 2: same because it's so rare to see people have their 624 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 2: wounds dressed in these days, because everyone has their own story. 625 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: Like one of the things that Dervis said was, you 626 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 2: know you did a good job because you didn't gas 627 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 2: like her. You never tried to contradict her story. Because 628 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 2: everybody's story has a purpose. And so even if you 629 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: don't agree with her version of events, even if you 630 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: feel like it's unfair to you her version of events, 631 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: if you go back and go, well, this isn't right, 632 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: this isn't fair. You know, that's not what happened to 633 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 2: that person, it becomes you're violating my story. You're now 634 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: trying to say what I believe isn't real. You're trying 635 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: to say so even if it isn't. If you do that, 636 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: you can't have the resolution. Like in order to have 637 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 2: a resolution, you almost have to just bend over and 638 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: go all right, if you think it was on me. 639 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 2: It was on me because on some level it was 640 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: on me, regardless of how regardless of to what degree. 641 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 2: If I know my actions weren't all the way right, 642 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: then it's on me some. 643 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's very very hard for people to do 644 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 3: or get to the point to this. And that's why 645 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 3: for a lot of people they go two ways. They 646 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 3: go oh fuck you, and they just don't talk about it, 647 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 3: don't address, and just cut that person completely out of 648 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 3: their lives because they feel like that they're not worth 649 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 3: the resolution. Because some people are not worth the resolution. 650 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 3: This truth be told, but this is the resolution that 651 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 3: we all felt like he had to have. 652 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: Well yeah, well it was that thing that I think 653 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 2: people don't understand, like when I talk about myself sometimes 654 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: and I'm like, sometimes people I can't like, why are 655 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: you even talking to this person or whatever? And I'm like, 656 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 2: because you, like, you have to understand me to understand. 657 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: Why you don't have I don't need you to be me. 658 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: I don't need you to agree with me, but sometimes 659 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 2: you don't understand what's happening inside of me. 660 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: I need this. 661 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: So to a certain extent, it's like, because you know, 662 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: they go into Will's reasoning on the Red Table talk, 663 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 2: not with Janet, but when he talks to a therapist, 664 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,479 Speaker 2: and it was dope because you know, it's therapist was 665 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: really good because she was basically like, so, what were 666 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 2: you feeling during this time? Because you basically went into 667 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: the situation, didn't allow yourself anything like you were there 668 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: for her. She even asked him at the beginning, like 669 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 2: I just wan't like why, why did you do this 670 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: or whatever, and he just kind of flips it into like, 671 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 2: you know, tell me how you feeling, Tell me how 672 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: you felt, tell me what you went through, rather than 673 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 2: to go, well, this is why you was acting like this. 674 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 2: And I was doing and I was twenty three and 675 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 2: I was broken. I had a girl breakup with me, 676 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: and I was. 677 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 3: Mad at what he said. It would not have been 678 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 3: sufficient enough. And that's the thing that people have to understand. 679 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 3: If you sometimes if you want to get to the 680 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 3: place of resolution, you have to relinquish things. You have 681 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 3: to relinquish pride, relinquish power, relinquish control over the situation. 682 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 3: You have to get to the point where you're going, Okay, 683 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 3: I actually want this to be resolved. And in order 684 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 3: for this to truly be resolved. We have got to 685 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,479 Speaker 3: get to a place of agreement, and we can never 686 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 3: get to a place of agreement if we're both still 687 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 3: trying to hash out who was right and who was wrong. 688 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, just there's not room in her story for 689 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: two stories. 690 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 3: Correct, this is not wrong. 691 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: You just have to literally eat that shit and he 692 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: ate it. 693 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 2: I'll like I said, I watched that shit and was 694 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 2: like a man, you know what I mean, Like that's 695 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 2: an adult right there, Cause like in a world where 696 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: we are literally told the fucking opposite every day. You know, 697 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: I'm petty, be petty, I'm petty here, Pendergrass, I'm you know, like, 698 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 2: don't ever forgive. 699 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: Forgiveness is weakness. We forgive too much. 700 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 2: You know, you say something about me one time, I 701 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 2: hold it against your ass forever. 702 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: And they you know. 703 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 2: And what was funny is that those kind of people 704 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 2: identified with. 705 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: Janet Hubert. 706 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, Janet Hubert forgave 707 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 2: that man and they don't identify with that part. I 708 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 2: could listen to them try to find ways to make 709 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 2: him still be a piece of shit regardless of everything. 710 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: It was like, I'm gonna find a way looking. 711 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 2: At this that he still has to be the bad 712 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 2: guy and they don't realize even Janet Hubert, who was 713 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 2: the only actual aggrieved party, right, we're not agreed, we're 714 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 2: just fucking people. Even she's like, this made me feel 715 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 2: seen her complete and it's old. 716 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: It's resolved for me. I'm moving on. 717 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 2: People don't like moving on because the grudge company. And 718 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 2: it's like if I let the grudge go, even that's 719 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 2: why we carry these imaginary grudges against people we don't 720 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 2: know and celebrities and don't know TV characters and shit. 721 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 2: We carry these grudges because it's company. It's it's the 722 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 2: bags from bag Lady that er Kabadu's mama's gun, like, 723 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 2: it's that type of company for a lot of us. 724 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 2: So to see a person be he get all the 725 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 2: things people claim they want. 726 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: You know how people go. 727 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 2: You know, if you people would just apologize the right way, 728 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 2: it wouldn't be a problem. And this person goes out 729 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 2: of their way to me like I'm gonna apologize to 730 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 2: you for everything, and you tell me exactly how I 731 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 2: hurt you or harmed you, and I'm gonna sit up 732 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 2: here and just eat that and let you know that 733 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 2: I'm remorseful. I did you know, I'm sorry, I don't. 734 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,720 Speaker 2: I don't push back on nothing. I agree with everything 735 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 2: you just said, even you could you know, you blame 736 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 2: me for your son's suicide attempt. I'm gonna sit up 737 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 2: here and eat this, you know what I mean? Like 738 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 2: he ate things he didn't know about. He's like, I 739 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 2: didn't even know about this contract thing or whatever, Like 740 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 2: it was like two or three things she brought up, 741 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 2: Like my husband was abusing me. There's no fucking way 742 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 2: he knew about that, right, Like she hasn't. Like that 743 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 2: was news to people that have been following this for 744 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 2: twenty seven years. He ate that live, you know, like 745 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 2: you hit me with a curveballer and my husband was 746 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 2: hitting me, and then you do this and it's like, 747 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 2: you're right. 748 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: So many people were like, nigga, I didn't hit you. 749 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 3: What the fuck? 750 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 2: Like all I said was a joke, you know, No, 751 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 2: he just fucking ate that shit. I've never you never 752 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 2: see shit like this. 753 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and and also the truth be told. 754 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 3: For most people, they look at it as a form 755 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 3: of entertainment and not these real people's lives. And they 756 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 3: treated will smilth and her like mascots, and it's like, 757 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 3: I got to cheer for my team, and you know, 758 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 3: her forgiving is their team losing. So we lost. So 759 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 3: you know how like sports, does somebody lose, you got 760 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 3: to blame other people, You can't. 761 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 2: I got a better analogy, cares, I got a better analogy. 762 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 1: It's like she conceded. 763 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, people can't stand that either. 764 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 2: But it's it's it's it's like Trump people who manufactured grievance, 765 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 2: and now they've turned the fact that they lost a 766 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 2: legitimate election into well, at least. 767 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: We won't concede. 768 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 2: And so when she conceded, it made people go, well, well, 769 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,439 Speaker 2: fuck out. I don't get to hate will no more, 770 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 2: Like what the fuck which one? You can do whatever 771 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 2: fuck you want. You had nothing to I don't know 772 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 2: if you noticed. You didn't have nothing to do with 773 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 2: the whole thing in the first place, so so you know, you. 774 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: Can continue to hold that. But it was like people 775 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:47,720 Speaker 1: almost were. 776 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 2: Hurt letting go of the grudge, you know, being of her, 777 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 2: letting go because now she can't be this mascot, she 778 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 2: can't be the aggrieved, dark skinned black woman that she's 779 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 2: been for twenty seven years. That we go man, it's 780 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 2: not right what happened to her? And it was like, well, 781 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 2: didn't she do a bunch. 782 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: Of extra shit? Isn't she fucking with a lot of 783 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: isms and shit to get it this dude, she. 784 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 2: Was harmed and she can do whatever the fuck she want. 785 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 2: We're not gonna talk about that. And so I thought 786 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 2: that was interesting. The other part is in the red 787 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 2: table talk part with his therapist, they go into the 788 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 2: shit inside of him, and that's what it really got 789 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 2: interested in, is you know, his father was abusive towards 790 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 2: his mom and him, and so he said, even the 791 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 2: character of Will Smith was this thing he created to 792 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 2: entertain his father and his family because if at least 793 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 2: if they were laughing, nobody was being hurt. And he 794 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 2: even says how his mom he was triggered by female 795 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 2: disapproval because him not being able to protect his mother 796 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 2: as a child, which obviously no one should expect, but 797 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 2: him not being able to protect his mother from his 798 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 2: father made like the idea of his mother not approving 799 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 2: of him or being disappointed in him. 800 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: So like this strong thing that hurt him. 801 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 2: And so Janet Hubert, this mother figure on the set 802 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 2: no longer laughing, no longer amused by his antics, very serious, 803 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 2: very let's just get the. 804 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 1: Job done, Will, while you got to do all this 805 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:24,479 Speaker 1: clown and shit. 806 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 2: It struck him in a place that made him want 807 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 2: her gone. Like he was like, okay, she's gone, good, 808 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 2: moving on. Fuck it, you know, because to him it 809 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 2: was I don't want this person around disapproving of me, 810 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 2: you know, which is interesting because we learned later. I 811 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 2: mean he I guess he learned now a lot of 812 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 2: that really has shit to do with him. 813 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: It was his. It was his insecurities. 814 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 2: Popping up and he owned that too. It wasn't just 815 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 2: well she should have known. It was nah, this is 816 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 2: on me, And that's where that guilt comes from. Where 817 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 2: if you come at it from a place of guilt, 818 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 2: you're willing to own it. You willing to be like, no, this. 819 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,439 Speaker 1: Could be me, this could be my insecurities. You didn't 820 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,240 Speaker 1: do nothing wrong. 821 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 2: He was also broke, owing to rs people money, so 822 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 2: that was another reason he wanted to rock the boat 823 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 2: with the money. He also had a girl cheat on 824 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 2: him at the time, which was a thing that fucked 825 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 2: his head up because he thought, I did all this 826 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 2: shit to. 827 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: Become Will Smith. 828 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 2: The fucking the man everybody loves and wants, and then 829 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 2: at the end of the day that shit don't matter 830 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 2: because you know, there's it gets some nigga from subway, 831 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 2: it's fucking my girl or whatever like like, so his 832 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 2: male ego was fucked up, and he admits that he 833 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 2: was wrong for like that probably paid played a part 834 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 2: into it, because I could imagine that would play a 835 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 2: part into feeling so dismissive of this woman, you know, like, well, 836 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 2: fuck these bitches, almost because a lot of men do 837 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 2: that when they hurt, and it's and they attack all women, 838 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 2: or they at least stop wanting to protect and love 839 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 2: women because I've been hurt. You know, someone brought up 840 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,399 Speaker 2: like I can't believe it took him twenty seven years 841 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 2: to get to this point or whatever, And I was 842 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,439 Speaker 2: thinking myself, one, some people never get to this point. 843 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: So I don't even know what the fuck that's supposed 844 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: to mean. You get that when you get that, too. 845 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 2: I don't know that it took him twenty seven years 846 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 2: to get to this point. As much as they had 847 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 2: this reunion schedule, he may have already been at this point. 848 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 2: But anything about Jennet Hubert and him seem like they 849 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 2: were gonna fucking be in the same room during this 850 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 2: twenty seven year venture. It none, none of this seemed 851 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 2: like there was ever gonna be a time where they 852 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 2: were gonna sit down and figure this shit out, because literally, 853 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 2: this woman hates my mother fucking guts and I'm just 854 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 2: trying to move on, you know, and I'm never gonna 855 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 2: contradict her. I'm never gonna come back, I'm never gonna, 856 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 2: you know, shine the light on that shit. I'm just 857 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 2: gonna move the fuck on, and she gets to hold 858 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 2: her truth. But yeah, so it was just it was 859 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,439 Speaker 2: interesting listening to that. I really do highly suggest it 860 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 2: for everybody because, especially with the passage I started the 861 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 2: show with, you look at it from She came at 862 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 2: it from a place of shame, he comes at it 863 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 2: from a place of guilt. And you see how that 864 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 2: how it kind of interlocks, how they both look at 865 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 2: the how they look at the conflict, and it makes 866 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 2: me think about conflicts in my own life and things 867 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,760 Speaker 2: that I've gone into and like, oh, that's why I 868 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 2: try to resolve shit, That's why I do that reach 869 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 2: out thing. 870 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: You know. 871 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 2: Now, it took me a long time to learn, but 872 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 2: a few years ago, I learned to be able to 873 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 2: go okay. 874 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,959 Speaker 1: I did as much as I could. 875 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 2: You know, that was a hard lesson for me because 876 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 2: I always felt like I could solve everything I think 877 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 2: as a kid, being academically gifted, you know, being well, 878 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 2: I'm smart enough. If I just do this thing long enough, 879 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 2: I look at the problem from this angle, I'll solve 880 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 2: the problem. 881 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: But people aren't like problems. They're not like equations. 882 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 3: You know. No, they're not static and move around. They change, 883 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 3: you know, and it and in any equation, the X 884 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 3: factor is always people. No matter how much you plan 885 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 3: on shit, no matter how much you organize sh the 886 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 3: X factor is people. Because somebody's gonna do some shit 887 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 3: unexpected that you would have never conceived. Somebody somewhere is 888 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,720 Speaker 3: gonna do that shit and just fuck your equation all 889 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 3: the way up, and then you have to start from scratch. 890 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 3: And also the biggest thing too about this is communication. 891 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 3: So this is one of the first times where everybody 892 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 3: actually communicated and actually listened and was heard. And most 893 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 3: people be guilty or shame, they just want to be 894 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 3: heard by the other party. 895 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 4: And that's a very hard place. 896 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 3: To get people to the point where everybody is listening 897 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 3: because everybody wants to talk. Everybody wants to get their 898 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 3: opinion out. Everybody wants to get their views out. Everybody 899 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 3: wants to let you know how they feel and how 900 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,919 Speaker 3: you hurt them and how they wronged you, which is fine. 901 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 4: But there's two sides of every story. 902 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 3: So are you willing to listen to the other person's 903 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 3: perspective in point of view? And this is where the 904 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 3: empathy comes in, and this is where the sympathy comes in. 905 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,800 Speaker 3: This is where the understanding and everybody. There are a 906 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 3: lot of people just because you are grown in age, 907 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 3: it does not mean that you are actually mature as 908 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 3: an adult. And that's very hard for a lot of 909 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 3: people to understand. This is why you have a lot 910 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 3: of adults. I have relatives that are older than me 911 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 3: that have the maturity level of a twenty one year 912 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 3: old and they will never change. 913 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 914 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 2: The one thing I will say, though, like I having 915 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 2: watched it, it wasn't about both people being heard. 916 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,800 Speaker 1: That's not what happened. He just listened like she didn't 917 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: hear him out. It was none of that. It was 918 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: like the resolution came in a way that. 919 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 2: I think that's what's so unique about it. It came 920 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,919 Speaker 2: in a way that we haven't been taught. We don't 921 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 2: talk about. Yeah, it was him going, I'm gonna just 922 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 2: eat this. We're told, well, you hash it out. I 923 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 2: tell you how I felt. You tell me how you felt. 924 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 2: We talk about where you went wrong. I talk about 925 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:07,839 Speaker 2: where I went wrong. 926 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: We hug it out. This was just him going I 927 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 1: was wrong. You're right about everything. 928 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 3: Yes, not understand that, But I was going to say, 929 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 3: in general, that's like I said, like you said, in general, 930 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 3: that's how it was held most of the time. But 931 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 3: the thing is he heard her out, even if it 932 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 3: wasn't reciprocated like like like, hearing both parties out does 933 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 3: not mean both parties will listen. It just means everybody 934 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 3: gets a chance to talk. 935 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,919 Speaker 1: Well, not just that's what I'm saying. I watched it right, 936 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't both people get a chance to talk. 937 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 2: It wasn't even that. It wasn't like he tried to 938 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 2: talk and she didn't hear it. He just never tried 939 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:43,479 Speaker 2: to give a side. 940 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,320 Speaker 1: It was just you're just one sided. Okay. 941 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 942 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 2: It was like I said, I've never seen TV like that. 943 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,399 Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like that. 944 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm coming from somewhere. 945 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 4: They hadn't seen it, y'all, so I apologize for people 946 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 4: that have seen it. 947 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying to explain when we started. I've 948 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 2: never seen some shit like that. Everybody always is like, nah, 949 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 2: this is how I felt or whatever, you know, especially 950 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 2: when you get an opening like why why did you 951 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 2: do that? Because most people are gonna fucking jump in 952 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 2: there and be like, this is why, nigga, I'm not crazy. 953 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 2: You was wilding out, you know, but like, no, it 954 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 2: don't matter. Why how you feel is what matters. 955 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: That shit was. 956 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 2: Crazy to me, if you know what it felt like, 957 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,439 Speaker 2: because you know, everybody I'll never forgive and all the shit, 958 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,959 Speaker 2: and I'm not one of those people. But there's times 959 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,879 Speaker 2: where people forgive people and I don't understand where I'm 960 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 2: just like, oh, I don't. 961 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 1: Have that in me. You know. 962 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 2: I respect the fuck out of it, to be honest, 963 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 2: because I think forgiveness is pretty much the truest strength. 964 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: The human being as capable of. 965 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 2: But it reminded me of when people forgive like uh uh, 966 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 2: like murderers, or or when when Serena Williams forgave that 967 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,839 Speaker 2: fucking tournament where the fans were race and went back, 968 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 2: and I'm always you know, when Glen Lebron goes back 969 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 2: to Cleveland, You're just like, why the fuck would you 970 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 2: ever do that? 971 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like I saw the videos 972 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 1: they burned your jerseys, you know what I mean. 973 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 2: But there's something inside of people when they approach a 974 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,439 Speaker 2: conflict from that kind of guilt and resolution thing where 975 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 2: they're like, well, maybe the decision was bad. You know, 976 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 2: maybe I shouldn't have gone on national TV. And I 977 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 2: see how that hurt people's feelings. And while I'm like, 978 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 2: you were justified, what's wrong with that? They're like, nah, 979 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 2: I do feel a way about it. 980 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: Now. 981 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 2: I've talked to those people that I heard, you know, 982 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 2: I've seen those those interviews and stuff, and I you know, 983 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 2: and I didn't want to make people feel that way. 984 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna own all of this and come back. 985 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,280 Speaker 1: You know, when you see. 986 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 2: Serena go back to that tournament, you're just like, why 987 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 2: would you ever? You said they were racists. They don't 988 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 2: deserve you, Serena, And she's like, nah, I'm gonna go back, 989 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 990 00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: That's how it felt to me. 991 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 2: Well, I was just like, Wow, couldn't be me, you know, 992 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 2: the ultimate shade of the bless your heart. 993 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's just but uh yeah, man, amazing, amazing. 994 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 1: I suggest everybody watch it. 995 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 3: And the one thing for me, you know, I strive to, 996 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,839 Speaker 3: you know, get to that point because a lot of 997 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,280 Speaker 3: times it's just my philosophy. That's how you are truly 998 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 3: free on things and you're not bobbed down by shit. 999 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 2: Well you don't. You normally are able to. You're really 1000 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 2: good at building boundaries. You're you're you're much better than 1001 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 2: me at being like now, that's it, like that they 1002 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 2: fucked up. That's as far as we're that's as much 1003 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 2: as we're getting out of this situation. 1004 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 1: That's as much as we're getting out of the stone. 1005 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,360 Speaker 2: Unless they fucking come to their senses, we'll never be 1006 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 2: talking again. 1007 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: And I'm much worse at that. I'm hard with And the. 1008 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 3: Thing is that was learned, baby, because you've been with 1009 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 3: me long enough to know what happens when I go 1010 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 3: to the other extreme. And it's not a healthy place 1011 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 3: to be. And that's why I always say, sometimes people 1012 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 3: mad and people are upset at other people for shit 1013 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 3: that they done. When it's not their fault. You didn't 1014 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 3: set boundaries, so you're mad at them because you didn't 1015 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 3: set boundaries. They didn't mean no harm. 1016 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 4: They are people will. 1017 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 3: Only you know. 1018 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes they do mean hard. 1019 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes they do me harm. 1020 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 1: Sometimes control the boundaries right right. 1021 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 3: Sometimes they do me harm. Sometimes they don't mean harm. 1022 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,280 Speaker 3: But it does not matter. The end result is the same, 1023 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,360 Speaker 3: is you being hurt. And because the end result is 1024 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,760 Speaker 3: the same, you have to set these boundaries for people, 1025 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 3: because the thing is people are only allowed to do 1026 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 3: to you what you allow them to do. Never get 1027 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 3: to the point where you feel like you don't have 1028 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 3: power in a situation. You always have power in a situation. Everybody. 1029 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 3: It's the funny how everybody claim they've grown, but at 1030 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,800 Speaker 3: the same time, nobody has the power in the situation. 1031 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 3: Nobody can ever forgive. You got the power to forgive, 1032 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,879 Speaker 3: not them. You know, everybody's grown, and everybody's talking about 1033 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,839 Speaker 3: you know, I do these adult things. But but at 1034 00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 3: the end of the day, you still have the philosophy 1035 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 3: of a child. Like you have no control over the situation. 1036 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 3: You can't put your foot down and say I'm not 1037 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 3: gonna deal with this. I'm not gonna deal with that, like, 1038 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 3: and I think it comes to a level of just 1039 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,759 Speaker 3: because I've been through enough situations and I've seen how 1040 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 3: certain things play out, I go, know, this is not 1041 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 3: worth the effort because I already know what the end 1042 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 3: is going to be. And since I know what the 1043 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,320 Speaker 3: end is going to be, I'm gonna nip this nipput 1044 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 3: and we're not We're not even gonna We're not even 1045 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,439 Speaker 3: gonna play the game because at the end of the day, 1046 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 3: I want us both to still be cool. Now, if 1047 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 3: you're mad, I'm fine with that. I am still cool. 1048 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 3: But the thing is a lot of people don't understand 1049 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,919 Speaker 3: why people make decisions, of why people make choices. It's 1050 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 3: not up to them to understand. Your boundary is your boundary, 1051 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 3: and you know yourself. So when you put when you 1052 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 3: put that electrical fence around you and be like, don't cross, 1053 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 3: you got to mean it too because people will cross 1054 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 3: those boundaries. 1055 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Like I said, I learned that from you. 1056 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 2: It's definitely something I had to learn. I didn't you know, 1057 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,919 Speaker 2: I had different issues than you had as far as 1058 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 2: like conflict and conflict resolution, Like I do try to 1059 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 2: resolve conflict. I would give you a shot, like that's 1060 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 2: the thing I'm not. 1061 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: I haven't had. 1062 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 2: The issues of insecurity to be like one time and 1063 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,800 Speaker 2: fuck you. It's normally like, okay, you're sending some waves 1064 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 2: my way that you don't approve of me, you don't 1065 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 2: like me. Cool, you know, let's just try to stay 1066 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,880 Speaker 2: amicable and peaceful. And if you know, if it's a 1067 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:31,240 Speaker 2: constant thing, okay, then we won't be able to talk anymore. 1068 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 2: But it's definitely like I have to make the effort 1069 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,359 Speaker 2: for myself to at least be like, all right, are 1070 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 2: you straight or is this gonna be a thing forever? 1071 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 1: You know? And I do this only with genuine people, 1072 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,319 Speaker 1: genuine relationships. You know. 1073 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 2: We're also in the situation now where that changed in 1074 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 2: my lifetime where a lot of than the relationships we 1075 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 2: have aren't genuine anymore. They're not people we know know, 1076 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,840 Speaker 2: they're people that know us from the show. They know 1077 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 2: it's from the internet. And so I can't extend that 1078 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 2: level of effort to you know, thousands of people. So 1079 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 2: you know, if one day I come on my page 1080 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,800 Speaker 2: and all you got to say is bad shit about me, okay, 1081 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 2: all right, I don't know what to tell you. 1082 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and like. 1083 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 3: You say, and that balance is not a thing because 1084 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 3: I'm I'm willing to work with people, I'm wanting to 1085 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 3: compromise on things, I'm wanting to give and all that 1086 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,800 Speaker 3: type of stuff. I am willing to do those things, 1087 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 3: but it comes to a point where I go, No, 1088 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,280 Speaker 3: I am not willing to go past a certain point 1089 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 3: because I know me. If I do, I'm going to 1090 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 3: blame you for the actions after this point. And so 1091 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,359 Speaker 3: I won't blame you. I will stop right here. 1092 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 2: I also want to add one more note before we 1093 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,320 Speaker 2: move on. In the passage that I'm reading from, conflict 1094 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,280 Speaker 2: is not abuse. It's not saying guilt in the typical 1095 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 2: fashion of like we associate both of these things with negatives, 1096 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 2: guilt and shame. And what they're just talking about is 1097 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 2: that people feel these things. Like she's not saying that, 1098 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 2: like it's bad to feel you would never feel guilty, 1099 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 2: never feel the shame. No, she's saying, these are two 1100 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 2: ways that people approach conflict. The guilt could mean you 1101 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 2: did the shit, that's why you feel guilty, not I'm 1102 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 2: feeling guilty for no reason. And I think in this case, 1103 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 2: Will Smith feels guilty because he did do that shit. 1104 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 2: Like he might not have been behind blackballing her for 1105 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 2: twenty seven years, but he did do the initial infraction 1106 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 2: where he could have chosen to, you know, to maturely. 1107 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 2: I know he was twenty one or whatever, twenty three, 1108 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 2: he could have maturely chosen. 1109 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 1: I don't have anything to do with that. I love 1110 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 1: Janet Hubert and I hate. 1111 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 2: To see it go, but you know, we got this 1112 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 2: new actress, and I hope people continue to watch the show. 1113 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 2: He could have said something as simple as that he 1114 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 2: thought it would be funny to make that crack and 1115 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,319 Speaker 2: it hurt her, you know what I mean, and so 1116 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,399 Speaker 2: he I think that's why he never even really tried 1117 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,360 Speaker 2: to defend himself, because even if she took it to 1118 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 2: the and you basically made my son kill himself, and 1119 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 2: you know, she was like, black people beat my ass 1120 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,360 Speaker 2: and they beat my son's ass. Like, at no point 1121 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,840 Speaker 2: was will Smith directing people to hit her or her 1122 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 2: child or figuratively or literally. He wasn't directing the black 1123 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 2: community to do all that. He just ate that shit. 1124 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 1: He just all right, you say, that's what happened, that's 1125 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 1: what happened. I'm sorry. 1126 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 2: You know, he didn't even say I didn't know that 1127 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,239 Speaker 2: was gonna happen, or I didn't mean for that. 1128 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 1: He just went. 1129 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 2: I apologized. That's also my fault. It was fun like 1130 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 2: and so because you have to eat that you did 1131 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 2: do something. So if you did something, then you really 1132 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 2: can't be like and I decide when it matters and 1133 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 2: when it doesn't, it's like, Okay, you feel like I 1134 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 2: did all that shit, then I'm gonna eat that too. 1135 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and something else that kind of helped me in 1136 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 3: I didn't learn this until I became like an adult. 1137 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:53,840 Speaker 3: Adult was learning love language. Once I learned love languages 1138 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,840 Speaker 3: and the different types of love languages and how to 1139 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 3: communicate with people, it made it made it made it 1140 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,239 Speaker 3: easy to navigate a lot of things because a lot 1141 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 3: of times when you don't understand somebody's love language is 1142 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 3: particularly if y'all on a complete opposite end of love languages, 1143 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 3: it can be a major conflict. 1144 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean maybe that I don't know in this situation. 1145 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,319 Speaker 2: I don't know how much that came into play, But 1146 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, it was just watch. 1147 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 1: It if you get a chance. 1148 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 2: I suggest everybody, why it's only twenty five minutes. The 1149 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 2: Red Table talk is so worth it. I think a 1150 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 2: lot of people could be edified by watching something like 1151 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,400 Speaker 2: this now in this period of time, because it just 1152 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 2: seems like everywhere we look, we're getting the opposite message, 1153 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 2: you know, And I just think that shit is harmful. 1154 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 2: I know that people could go too far with the 1155 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 2: forgiveness point, I really do, but I just I think 1156 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 2: people should take a breath and start considering, like the 1157 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 2: signals that we're getting and what does it really enrich 1158 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,719 Speaker 2: our lives? Because there's a certain level of fuck you 1159 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,239 Speaker 2: that's healthy and boundary creating us to sustainable, and there's 1160 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,279 Speaker 2: a certain level of fuck you that just becomes you 1161 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,160 Speaker 2: need to be part of my cold where I decide 1162 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 2: I'm the one who's right and everything and everyone else 1163 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 2: can kiss my ass, and it's like that ship ain't productive, 1164 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 2: you know. 1165 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm leading with my trauma things. 1166 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 2: Bad things have happened to me, bad things happen to everybody, 1167 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 2: and we just turning into if something bad happens, that 1168 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 2: you can do any fucking thing you want to people. 1169 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 2: Then I don't see how we're any any better. So 1170 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 2: I just I just thought that was great, man. I 1171 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 2: hope people take the time out all right, let's talk 1172 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,640 Speaker 2: about the news. Okay, we got plenty of news to 1173 00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 2: talk about. 1174 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 1: Let's see. 1175 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 2: Uh, I guess it's start with that CORONAVIRUSS coronavirus. 1176 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, uh new shit, felt vive infrared crypt don't collaborate sean. Yeah, 1177 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 6: motherfuckers can't gather no more, can't party no more? Who'll 1178 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,000 Speaker 6: be telling us other? Thing of the past is so 1179 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 6: long And these motherfucker's not wearing masks, so dumb, or 1180 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 6: they're wearing under their nose. And I'm like, huh right 1181 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 6: and caring. I think you young gotta keep educating because 1182 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 6: the leaders are acting stupid as fucking this nation, this 1183 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 6: pandemic we're facing. We all we got in the shows. 1184 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 6: I just got over this COVID and this shit ain't 1185 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 6: no joke, but two one hundred and twenty dozen plus 1186 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 6: they make it like me, I'm not taking it for 1187 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 6: granted because this shit is writening it. It's understated how 1188 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 6: basic the virtue for learning is. They don't give a 1189 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 6: dam about were not educating kids. 1190 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, fuck that COVID nineteen is unseen. 1191 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 1: It's street being in it. 1192 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,480 Speaker 6: And for you to bring again. 1193 00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 7: So fuck that COVID. 1194 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 6: Nineteen it's unseen, it's yours. 1195 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,000 Speaker 2: We got coronavirus news. All right, A lot of stuff 1196 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,960 Speaker 2: is happening over there with karens Mike. 1197 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 4: Oh, we're good now, Okay, we ship. How do I sound? 1198 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 1: Sound? Sounds the same as before? 1199 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 3: Okay, I could tell the difference that I about saying. 1200 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 3: My pop tifter came down. I can hear me be 1201 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 3: popping with my pieces while I started backing away from 1202 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 3: the mic. 1203 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll never back up from the MIC's son. 1204 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,880 Speaker 2: Okay, when it's time to get on the mic and shine, 1205 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,000 Speaker 2: step to the mic. 1206 00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 3: Okay, step to the microphone. 1207 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,840 Speaker 1: All right, go ahead and bust that free. 1208 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 3: My name is Karen, and I'm here to say I 1209 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:51,439 Speaker 3: got a lot. 1210 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,120 Speaker 4: I'm terrible at this, y'all. You know I'm bad. 1211 00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 3: I'm bad. Yeah, I wrote my lines. I'm sorry. 1212 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 1: I didn't back up from the mic. That's the only 1213 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 1: part I was testing. 1214 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 3: Oh, it didn't matter if you could wrap it up. 1215 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 4: I've got to say. You know, he put me on 1216 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 4: the spot. 1217 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: You know, I don't. 1218 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,480 Speaker 4: I don't do you know freestyles like that. 1219 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 1220 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 2: Tokyo raises make the big books. Tokyo raised their virus 1221 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 2: alert to the highest level. After they got a whole 1222 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:19,919 Speaker 2: lot of. 1223 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 1: Record numbers and new cases of new cases, Tokyo. 1224 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 4: Tokyo, Tokyo was like, nah. 1225 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 1: They got more than five hundred new cases for the 1226 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 1: first time in the day. Did you say. 1227 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 4: Five hundred, five hundred, that's five hundred. 1228 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1229 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 2: Confirmed infections in the city leaped up a BYuT four 1230 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety three on Wednesday, overtaking the record set 1231 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 2: in August, while nationwide cases hit a new high of 1232 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 2: more than two thousand. Uh, Tokyo is, I want to 1233 01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 2: live everywhere here. 1234 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 3: The numbers is low. When you said five hundred, I'll 1235 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 3: say five hundred. Nigga were busting close to trying to 1236 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,680 Speaker 3: get him. Were trying to break the record of a 1237 01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:58,400 Speaker 3: million in today. 1238 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 1: I want to live everywhere but here. 1239 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:12,640 Speaker 2: Our country tis of d uh sweetland of COVID nineteen. 1240 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 3: Apparently so of d I breathe. 1241 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, they said we gotta shut it down. 1242 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 2: Tyson managers bet money on how many workers would contract 1243 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 2: COVID nineteen. 1244 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 1: That's right, Tyson Chicken, Tyson Food. 1245 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,480 Speaker 2: Where I believe Lindsey Graham or mitchric Connell advocated for 1246 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 2: them to not be able to be sued by workers 1247 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 2: in the pandemic, even though they knew that it was 1248 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 2: a covid breathing breeding farm. 1249 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 3: Right, They y'all close to each other. You're working with 1250 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 3: you know, livestock. There's no social distancing. Yeah, you're inside 1251 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 3: of the buildings. Yeah, they don't give a fuck, They 1252 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:55,959 Speaker 3: don't care. 1253 01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 1: Yep. 1254 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 2: And so some of the employees said that they found 1255 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 2: out that the supervisors privately wagered money on the number 1256 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 2: of workers who would get sickened by the daily virus. 1257 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 1: Yep. 1258 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,920 Speaker 2: Of course, Tyson Foods, is you the statement, We're extremely 1259 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 2: upset about the accusations. You know, I'm gonna start reading 1260 01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:23,520 Speaker 2: all these the same way. Hold on, We are extremely 1261 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 2: upset about the accusations involved with some of the leadership 1262 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 2: at our waterloop plant. Tyson food is a family company 1263 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:35,280 Speaker 2: with one hundred and thirty nine thousand team members, and 1264 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 2: these allegations do not represent who we are or our 1265 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 2: core values. 1266 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 1: And team behaviors. 1267 01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 2: We expect every team member at Tyson Fools to operate 1268 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:51,880 Speaker 2: with the utmost integrity and care in everything that we do. 1269 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 2: We have suspended without pay the individuals allegedly involved and 1270 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 2: have retained the law firm Coventing and Berlin LLP to 1271 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:09,040 Speaker 2: conduct an independent investigation led by former Eternal General Eric Holder. 1272 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 2: If these claims are confirmed, we'll take all measures necessary 1273 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 2: to root out and remove this disturbing behavior from our company. 1274 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,840 Speaker 1: Our top priority. Shut up nigger. 1275 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 2: Our top priority is and remains the health and safety 1276 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,320 Speaker 2: of our team members. Put me down fifty dollars for 1277 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,040 Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty five. 1278 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:33,160 Speaker 1: What were you saying back? 1279 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 3: Well, as a dark head over here, all I was 1280 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 3: saying was that a is Eric Holder, So you know 1281 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 3: he gonna investigate and wouldn't surprise me to reduce lawsuits 1282 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:49,160 Speaker 3: from the employees. 1283 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 4: They gonna, no, we're gonna have something. 1284 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,440 Speaker 3: We're gonna suspend you with pain, have somebody investigate. They 1285 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 3: gonna say you did the shit and then we're gonna 1286 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:55,720 Speaker 3: fire you. 1287 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 2: In mid April, around the time Blackhawk County Sheriff top 1288 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,640 Speaker 2: Miss Thompson visited the plant and reported the working conditions 1289 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 2: there shook him to his core, Plant manager Tom Hart 1290 01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 2: organized a cash buy in win or take all bedding 1291 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:13,240 Speaker 2: pool for supervisors and managers to lower to wager how 1292 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 2: many plant employees would test positive COVID nineteen yeah. 1293 01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,560 Speaker 3: Which means nobody was taking it seriously, none of y'all. 1294 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,120 Speaker 2: Now, in all fairness, Karen, there was no March Madness 1295 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,520 Speaker 2: pool that year, so you know you got to get 1296 01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 2: it in somewhere. 1297 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 1: Let's be real, okay, I. 1298 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 3: Just knowing where that money would have meant. 1299 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 2: John Casey, an upper level manager at the plant, is 1300 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,920 Speaker 2: a less to have explicitly directed supervisors to ignore symptoms 1301 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 2: of COVID nineteen, telling them to show up to work 1302 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,920 Speaker 2: even if they were exhibiting symptoms of the virus. 1303 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 1: Casey reportedly referred to COVID nineteen as. 1304 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:49,040 Speaker 2: The glorified flu, told workers not to worry about it 1305 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 2: because it's not a big deal and everyone is going 1306 01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 2: to get it. On one occasion, Casey intercepted a six 1307 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,160 Speaker 2: supervisor who was on his way to be tested, order 1308 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 2: him to get back to work, saying, we all have 1309 01:04:58,640 --> 01:04:59,280 Speaker 2: the symptoms. 1310 01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:00,280 Speaker 1: You have a job to do. 1311 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 2: After one employee vomited on the production line, managers the 1312 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,840 Speaker 2: poorly allowed the man to continue working and then return 1313 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:06,680 Speaker 2: to work the next day. 1314 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,120 Speaker 4: What what yep? 1315 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:11,640 Speaker 1: Yep? 1316 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 4: How was this legal? 1317 01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:14,960 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 1318 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,840 Speaker 3: That's that's how it be can and this is the 1319 01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,520 Speaker 3: bullshit that happens when Republicans get in office and they 1320 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 3: want to fucking strip it down where employees can't do 1321 01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,040 Speaker 3: like class action lawsuits where they want to get rid 1322 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 3: of unions, like like this is the ship that that 1323 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 3: that that the reason why because companies don't give a fuck, 1324 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,520 Speaker 3: and companies are not people. They don't care. 1325 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:44,720 Speaker 4: They're about the bottom line profit. 1326 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:48,160 Speaker 3: Because if there was a union here, they'd have been like, 1327 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,920 Speaker 3: no motherfucker, they will not go back to work, and 1328 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,520 Speaker 3: we're sending them somewhere else. We'll send them to the hospital. 1329 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:53,479 Speaker 1: But that's the thing. 1330 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,160 Speaker 2: Even if they would have had a union, I think 1331 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,440 Speaker 2: the government at that time had passed those laws so 1332 01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,920 Speaker 2: you can't even sue the fucking company. And they designated 1333 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,480 Speaker 2: those people to be emergency workers so that you couldn't 1334 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,480 Speaker 2: even you see what I'm saying, Like they put them 1335 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,280 Speaker 2: in a position where they knew they were gonna die 1336 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,120 Speaker 2: in the acted like they were heroes for it, because we. 1337 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,760 Speaker 1: Have to have our chicken. God forbid, people eat some fucking. 1338 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 2: Vegetables or or some other or some other type of 1339 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,000 Speaker 2: meat because you know, like it was like we got 1340 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:20,640 Speaker 2: to have this. 1341 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,680 Speaker 3: And the thing is, which I didn't think about until 1342 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,960 Speaker 3: people started bringing this up. They was like, this is 1343 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,240 Speaker 3: why you need smaller chicken plants like scattered across the country. Yeah, 1344 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:30,800 Speaker 3: you gonna have the big ones. People were like, we 1345 01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,120 Speaker 3: need more local shit, because then the food chain wouldn't 1346 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,480 Speaker 3: have stopped when everything run through these larger companies and 1347 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:38,160 Speaker 3: they have problems. 1348 01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,160 Speaker 4: It's some motherfucking wrap for thousands of people. 1349 01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,640 Speaker 2: In late March or early April, as the pandemic spread 1350 01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:48,680 Speaker 2: across our Iowa, managers at the Waterloo plant reportedly began 1351 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,400 Speaker 2: avoiding the plant floor for fear of contracting the virus. 1352 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:55,600 Speaker 2: As a result, they increasingly delegated managerial authority and responsibilities 1353 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:59,120 Speaker 2: to low level supervisors who had no management training or experience. 1354 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,960 Speaker 2: Visors did not require truck drivers and subcontractors to have 1355 01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,080 Speaker 2: their temperatures check before entering the plant. 1356 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,800 Speaker 3: Because they didn't give a fuck. None of them cared. 1357 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:08,800 Speaker 3: None of them cared. 1358 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,440 Speaker 2: In March and April, plant supervisors falsely denied the existence 1359 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:16,400 Speaker 2: of any confirmed cases or positive COVID nineteen tests within 1360 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 2: the plant. 1361 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,760 Speaker 1: They told workers they had a responsibility. 1362 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,880 Speaker 2: To keep working to ensure America's didn't go hungry as 1363 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,200 Speaker 2: resold to shut down, and that Tyson continued to make money. Right, 1364 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,720 Speaker 2: Tyson paid out five hundred dollars thank you bonuses to 1365 01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,760 Speaker 2: employees who turned up for every schedule shift for three months, 1366 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,000 Speaker 2: a policy decision that allegedly incentivized sick workers to continue 1367 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,240 Speaker 2: reporting the work for five hundred dollars. 1368 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:39,960 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, you're trying to. 1369 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,000 Speaker 4: Get tax the hell out of when you get it. 1370 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,240 Speaker 2: And your insurance ain't gonna it won't even cover the 1371 01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,120 Speaker 2: deductible when you're in that ventilator. 1372 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,880 Speaker 4: Right for the insurance to be like, we don't cover COVID. 1373 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:53,440 Speaker 2: Nigga, Tyson executives allegedly lobbied lobbied Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds 1374 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 2: for COVID nineteen liability protections that would shield the company 1375 01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,280 Speaker 2: from lawsuits, and successfully lobbied the governor to declared the 1376 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,520 Speaker 2: only the state government, not local governments, had to authority 1377 01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 2: to close businesses in. 1378 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 1: Response to the pandemic. 1379 01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 2: So it looks like I don't know if they it 1380 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 2: didn't successfully lobby to get the protected so maybe they 1381 01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 2: can't still be sued in the state. 1382 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,920 Speaker 3: Oh so, soe the fuck out of the fucked them. 1383 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,200 Speaker 2: And you know who I blame for this shit here honestly, 1384 01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:22,280 Speaker 2: Will Smith. No, it's his fault, it is not, sir. 1385 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:30,599 Speaker 1: Truth tell the truth, Will Smith. Let's see. 1386 01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,840 Speaker 2: Virus surgeons complicate the distribution of scarce COVID nineteen treatments. Yeah, 1387 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 2: so everyone's all excited, but and I mean not saying 1388 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:43,519 Speaker 2: it shouldn't be, but like rem DESERVET and some of 1389 01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:51,560 Speaker 2: these like treatments, I forget what it's called antis something treatments, 1390 01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,400 Speaker 2: so antibody treatments and stuff. 1391 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:54,680 Speaker 1: Some of these people. 1392 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:59,080 Speaker 2: Are you know, they're like, hey, we're gonna start the 1393 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,320 Speaker 2: things that saved the president of Sony, politicians, REM deservere 1394 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:03,960 Speaker 2: and shit, we're gonna start giving. 1395 01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,639 Speaker 1: It to like other people. 1396 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,720 Speaker 2: Now it's been approved by the FDA, except with the 1397 01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,679 Speaker 2: virus surgeon, it's not nearly enough. 1398 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,280 Speaker 1: So we don't have enough of these. 1399 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,679 Speaker 2: Drugs to say, like doctor dog gonna still be down. 1400 01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,200 Speaker 2: I gotta pick one out of the hundreds of people 1401 01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:28,400 Speaker 2: who have this shit in my you know, the worst 1402 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,040 Speaker 2: case scenario or whatever, or maybe even the best case, 1403 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,360 Speaker 2: like this person has the best shot of living. So 1404 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,479 Speaker 2: you're still gonna have to make this horrible decisions that 1405 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 2: people had to make in Italy when it first started yeah. 1406 01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,280 Speaker 3: No. So for the fact that they're announcing this stuff. 1407 01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,000 Speaker 3: I don't know if you you probably got an article 1408 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,040 Speaker 3: about it. People don't like showing up a like Walgreens 1409 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,320 Speaker 3: and shit like that, going can I get my vaccine? 1410 01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,120 Speaker 3: And they go, bitch, we ain't got it yet. What 1411 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,599 Speaker 3: we just said that we never said we were actually 1412 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,040 Speaker 3: giving it out, And they actually have putting up signs 1413 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:56,800 Speaker 3: going we don't have a vaccine yet. 1414 01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,919 Speaker 2: But I just went to them a lot of concert 1415 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,400 Speaker 2: young Lotto was I ain't had no mask on. 1416 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:04,320 Speaker 1: I need the vaccine. 1417 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 3: I know that's getting all their nerves when they go, no, 1418 01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,519 Speaker 3: we probably won't get the vaccine to next year, why 1419 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:10,160 Speaker 3: are you showing up? 1420 01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 2: Keep asking me that Astrozenica started late stage trials on 1421 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:18,639 Speaker 2: Saturday of an experimental long acting mono clonal mono clonal 1422 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:23,400 Speaker 2: antibody combination drug. It hopes could be used as a 1423 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:27,599 Speaker 2: so called prophylactic to prevent COVID nineteen infection and at. 1424 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,640 Speaker 1: Risk risk people for up to twelve months. 1425 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,120 Speaker 2: It's kind of to cover the people, you know, how 1426 01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:36,120 Speaker 2: they say ther's ninety percent effective. They need something to 1427 01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 2: cover the people that it might not be effective on. 1428 01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,320 Speaker 2: And they're starting the late stage trials on that now, 1429 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:50,280 Speaker 2: so because not everyone's gonna be covered by that ninety 1430 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,240 Speaker 2: so some people are gonna still, you know, have some issues. 1431 01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,400 Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens there. But you know, the 1432 01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:02,519 Speaker 2: work continues. Coronavirus is airborne and indoors. Why are we 1433 01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:03,920 Speaker 2: still scrubbing surfaces? 1434 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:05,320 Speaker 3: I don't understand it. 1435 01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:06,800 Speaker 1: I don't understand me. 1436 01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:07,840 Speaker 4: And you talked about this. 1437 01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,879 Speaker 3: The biggest disservice, particularly for the dummies here in America, 1438 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,439 Speaker 3: is telling them to wipe shit off and wash their hands. 1439 01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,599 Speaker 1: The dum dumb and ass dummies. 1440 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,160 Speaker 3: You should have never told people that because people think 1441 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:22,080 Speaker 3: that in temperature don't matter. People that act like asymptomatic 1442 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:23,759 Speaker 3: shit ain't real every time you turn around. 1443 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,719 Speaker 4: I didn't know people could just walk around with no symptoms. Bitch, 1444 01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:27,519 Speaker 4: what the fuck you think? 1445 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:31,800 Speaker 3: Ain't symptomatic means like it's annoying. It's annoying. 1446 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,559 Speaker 1: Yep. The thing for me on this is. 1447 01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:45,640 Speaker 2: It feels a lot like TSA, where like, are we 1448 01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 2: really safe because we walked through that scanner or at 1449 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:50,679 Speaker 2: the nine to eleven? 1450 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,080 Speaker 1: Did we need a placebo to make us feel safe? 1451 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,840 Speaker 2: So we'll still get on planes feels a little bit 1452 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 2: like that, like taking my shoes off. If that don't 1453 01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:03,160 Speaker 2: make everyone feel safer, I guess I'm taking my shoes off, 1454 01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,160 Speaker 2: But do I really feel like they checked my shoes 1455 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:07,600 Speaker 2: for shoe bombing. 1456 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,679 Speaker 1: Material or whatever the fuck? Or that that's the way 1457 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:11,000 Speaker 1: the way the next attack happens. 1458 01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,400 Speaker 3: Now mm hm, Well I got to get patted down, 1459 01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,439 Speaker 3: or particularly black people with our curly ass here, you 1460 01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:18,439 Speaker 3: got to touch my hair, because lord forbid it, I 1461 01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,559 Speaker 3: have a bomb strapped strapped in my locks. 1462 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,240 Speaker 2: I've seen your your Negro hair, and it does look 1463 01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:27,160 Speaker 2: very much like the dying bomby. It looks like the dynamite, 1464 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:32,200 Speaker 2: the cord, the dynamite when it explodes, like the fuse. 1465 01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:34,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I'm like, I'm like the I'm like 1466 01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,920 Speaker 3: the well, my name is Carrying and I wear carrying 1467 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,600 Speaker 3: yoga pants because I got tired of them puffing and 1468 01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 3: every time they have to fucking pat me down. So 1469 01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,639 Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, I'm aware yoga pants. 1470 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,439 Speaker 3: That way you just see my ass and I know that, 1471 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,720 Speaker 3: uh you, I don't have to get patted down and 1472 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,240 Speaker 3: you don't have to touch me. Uh. 1473 01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:54,600 Speaker 2: A contract tracer in North Dakota, wrote ifed for The 1474 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,599 Speaker 2: Washington Post. I'll just read the title, you know, find yourself. 1475 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,880 Speaker 2: I'm a contact tracer in North Dakota. The virus is 1476 01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:02,400 Speaker 2: so rampant that we gave up. 1477 01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,120 Speaker 4: What But that's your job, though? 1478 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,960 Speaker 2: What do I do when everybody got a care the 1479 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 2: hospitals already for the motherfuckers don't want to cooperate. They're 1480 01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,320 Speaker 2: gonna go to the bike rally anyway, They going to 1481 01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:19,160 Speaker 2: the concerts. 1482 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:20,800 Speaker 1: What the fuck I'm supposed to do? Can? 1483 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,000 Speaker 4: What are they beying you for? Just send everybody home. 1484 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:24,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, they gave up. 1485 01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,400 Speaker 2: That's what they said, not me personally, that they gave 1486 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,120 Speaker 2: up contract tracing in North. 1487 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:30,760 Speaker 4: Of Coast so they just don't contract trade no more. 1488 01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:35,240 Speaker 2: Is that widespread? It's no point now. See, contact tracing 1489 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,519 Speaker 2: is for keeping shit under control. Contract tracing is not 1490 01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,240 Speaker 2: for people that go I'm gonna do It's like saying 1491 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,479 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do calorie counting, but I'm gonna eat. I'm 1492 01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:46,719 Speaker 2: gonna start off and I'm gonna eat a fucking whole 1493 01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:47,800 Speaker 2: piece of from Domino's. 1494 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:48,479 Speaker 1: Nigga. 1495 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 2: You're over the you might okay, then eat the ice 1496 01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:52,960 Speaker 2: cream and don't count it because yes. 1497 01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,640 Speaker 3: You're over the threshold. And that's what happened when I 1498 01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,439 Speaker 3: told y'all them nigga's out there going that shit happened 1499 01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,799 Speaker 3: in the big cities and not taking it and shit seriously, 1500 01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,879 Speaker 3: knowing that y'all cities in space every five hundred miles apart, 1501 01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,640 Speaker 3: knowing that your hospital only hold fifty people in the 1502 01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,799 Speaker 3: whole goddamn town and you got one doctor. 1503 01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,240 Speaker 4: But y'all said, fuck it. 1504 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:15,679 Speaker 2: Okay, we gotta have our concerts and our bike rallies, 1505 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,200 Speaker 2: gotta have them. A piece of workers live forcing Australian 1506 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,719 Speaker 2: state of one point seven million people into lockdown. 1507 01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,840 Speaker 1: A piece of bar worker who had COVID nineteen. 1508 01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:29,320 Speaker 2: And lied about their unemployment activities triggered the lockdown. 1509 01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:32,000 Speaker 1: One point seven million. 1510 01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:33,200 Speaker 3: They're not playing. 1511 01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, one point seven million people would not have gone 1512 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,120 Speaker 2: into the six day circuit breaker if the employee had 1513 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,160 Speaker 2: been honest with the contact tracing team. This is how 1514 01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:43,960 Speaker 2: you take contract tracing seriously. 1515 01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:45,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like you, you the one, you, you 1516 01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:46,360 Speaker 3: the problem. 1517 01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:51,200 Speaker 2: If the employee had been honest with contact tracing team, Marshall, now, oh, 1518 01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,160 Speaker 2: the Marshal announcer, state had decided to lift the six 1519 01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:56,400 Speaker 2: day lockdown early based on new information the employee lied 1520 01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,760 Speaker 2: about claim lied by claiming to have been at the 1521 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,519 Speaker 2: Woodville Pizza Bar in the city of Adelaide only briefly 1522 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,800 Speaker 2: to collect the takeaway pizza, but had actually been working 1523 01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:08,479 Speaker 2: regular shifts there. Because of that lie, authorities had concluded 1524 01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:11,360 Speaker 2: that the strain of COVID nineteen was highly contagious, assuming 1525 01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,880 Speaker 2: that employee had caught it in a caught it despite 1526 01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:15,480 Speaker 2: a very short period of exposure. 1527 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,719 Speaker 1: So basically they said, because they understand it goes through 1528 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:20,960 Speaker 1: the air. 1529 01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,200 Speaker 2: So they was like, if you walked up in a 1530 01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,439 Speaker 2: place to pick up delivery and you. 1531 01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,280 Speaker 1: Walked out and you had coronavirus off. 1532 01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:34,639 Speaker 2: Of that, that shit must be extremely contagious because it's 1533 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:38,000 Speaker 2: mostly spread by you taking time, being in a room 1534 01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,200 Speaker 2: with someone or some you know, a lot of people 1535 01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,000 Speaker 2: for a while. So they were like, we got a 1536 01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:47,360 Speaker 2: highly contagious strain on our hands. Everyone chilled the fuck out, 1537 01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,599 Speaker 2: We're going back in lockdown. Turns out, this motherfucker lot 1538 01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:54,400 Speaker 2: they've been working shifts there, so you got it because 1539 01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,000 Speaker 2: you've been in there exposed for a longer period of time, 1540 01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:01,080 Speaker 2: which is more common, which makes sense, which we don't 1541 01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:02,680 Speaker 2: want to lock down everybody. 1542 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:03,720 Speaker 1: Now one point seven men. 1543 01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,439 Speaker 2: People don't have to lock down because we know it's 1544 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:11,120 Speaker 2: just regular coronavirus you caught, so god damn boy, at 1545 01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:12,160 Speaker 2: least stay on top of it. 1546 01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,720 Speaker 3: That's what happened when you got real contact tracing. 1547 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:19,040 Speaker 2: Uh hospital well, and the responsible populacet that that's gonna 1548 01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:20,120 Speaker 2: do what the fuck he's supposed to do? 1549 01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:21,599 Speaker 3: I guess possible government too. 1550 01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,479 Speaker 2: Hospital ceo who had COVID nineteen refused to wear a 1551 01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:26,960 Speaker 2: mask as a symbolic gesture. 1552 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:30,240 Speaker 4: But you work from a hospital, my nigga. 1553 01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,000 Speaker 3: People test positive for it every day. 1554 01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:39,240 Speaker 1: Hello, what the fuck is wrong with you? 1555 01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:41,080 Speaker 3: I would fire him. 1556 01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,639 Speaker 1: They really think it's some type of show of strength. 1557 01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,559 Speaker 2: And this is an old white man, like he ain't 1558 01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,240 Speaker 2: that young to be fucking with this COVID. 1559 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,080 Speaker 3: People say stupid shit like this, why are you working 1560 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:51,960 Speaker 3: at my hospital? 1561 01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,680 Speaker 2: Like the COVID gonna see the symbolic gesture and be like, 1562 01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:58,559 Speaker 2: you know what, man, I can't even fuck with this 1563 01:16:58,600 --> 01:16:59,320 Speaker 2: hospital dog. 1564 01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:00,479 Speaker 1: This jiggas crazy. 1565 01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:01,719 Speaker 4: The Kobe taker is a deer. 1566 01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 3: Everybody that just be like, word COVID, Kobe, be like, 1567 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:06,439 Speaker 3: bet see you tomorrow. 1568 01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, like the COVID gonna be like, I'm scared, man. 1569 01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,000 Speaker 1: Have you seen the fucking hospital ceo? 1570 01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,320 Speaker 2: This nigga walking around without no mask And I'm just 1571 01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,320 Speaker 2: trying to slide up in here with my COVID and 1572 01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:19,880 Speaker 2: this motherfucker's like mm hmmm. So you know what that player, 1573 01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:21,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna gone hand have to bow out of this one. 1574 01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:22,880 Speaker 1: I don't want no smoke. 1575 01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:25,080 Speaker 3: COVID be like you rang. 1576 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:29,040 Speaker 2: Right, because you know how it works. 1577 01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,080 Speaker 1: COVID and symbolism. 1578 01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:36,639 Speaker 2: Uh, secret plans help a Brooklyn synagogue to five Governor 1579 01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:41,320 Speaker 2: Cuomo to pull off a seven thousand person maskless wedding 1580 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:42,759 Speaker 2: seven thousand. 1581 01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:45,519 Speaker 4: How'd you get seven thousand people to keep a secret? 1582 01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,160 Speaker 3: Shit? The halftime? You can't even keep five. 1583 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:53,760 Speaker 1: It's a nice day for a maskless wedding. Look at 1584 01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:55,000 Speaker 1: all those people. 1585 01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:01,599 Speaker 3: We ain't never gonna be free out to help y Yeah, 1586 01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,959 Speaker 3: because they have been cracking down on the Hasidic community 1587 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:04,519 Speaker 3: in New York. 1588 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,280 Speaker 4: Ain't you never telling them y'all can't do this bullshit? 1589 01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,479 Speaker 2: And they've just been on some like we gonna do 1590 01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 2: what the fuck we feel like doing and holding super 1591 01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:17,960 Speaker 2: spread of events regardless, and apparently all seven thousand people 1592 01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:23,719 Speaker 2: kept a secret and they defied the law and held 1593 01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,800 Speaker 2: this no social distance and no mass superspreader of events. 1594 01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,400 Speaker 3: Is this in New York? Yes, in New York, Oh Lork, 1595 01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,840 Speaker 3: y'all about to have a serious breakout because you know 1596 01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,040 Speaker 3: what the nigs are gonna do, go visit their families 1597 01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:37,479 Speaker 3: for Thanksgiving and Christmas. Mmm, bring it all up in 1598 01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,760 Speaker 3: their face in the next synagogue meeting, y'all about to 1599 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:41,320 Speaker 3: have a mass if I'll break up there? 1600 01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:42,679 Speaker 1: What the fuck? Man? 1601 01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:43,519 Speaker 3: Like? 1602 01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,880 Speaker 2: That's the thing like your religion, doesn't it doesn't care 1603 01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:47,799 Speaker 2: about your religion. 1604 01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:53,760 Speaker 1: No, it's not sitting around like oh Jewish? Okay, my bad. 1605 01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:57,240 Speaker 1: I thought this was like a Christian church. 1606 01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,080 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I know it's a synagogue. 1607 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,360 Speaker 2: Let me take my over ass back to the crib, 1608 01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:01,920 Speaker 2: my badg. 1609 01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,640 Speaker 1: Y'all y'all carry on? Could agree? 1610 01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,400 Speaker 2: Of course, millions of Americans are traveling the Thanksgiving despite 1611 01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:15,200 Speaker 2: the howard, despite the CDC said not to, and uh yeah. Lastly, 1612 01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:20,679 Speaker 2: FDA emerged authorize this emergency use of aedtibody cocktail, giving 1613 01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,160 Speaker 2: a trump to treat COVID nineteen. But once again, like 1614 01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:29,000 Speaker 2: I told y'all, doesn't mean that we actually have enough 1615 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:30,360 Speaker 2: of it to give to everybody. 1616 01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,479 Speaker 3: No, because they never planned on mass producing this. 1617 01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,400 Speaker 2: Well, they may have planned on mass producing this, I'm 1618 01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:41,080 Speaker 2: not saying they didn't, but this has been such a 1619 01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:41,800 Speaker 2: short period of time. 1620 01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:42,120 Speaker 1: People. 1621 01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,400 Speaker 2: The amount of time it takes developed all this shit 1622 01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:50,280 Speaker 2: normally is years, correct, So you know us walking around 1623 01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,920 Speaker 2: like we just like, oh, yeah, of course, we'll just 1624 01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,880 Speaker 2: fucking uh, I'll just go to the to the to 1625 01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,960 Speaker 2: cvs and pick me up some antibodies. 1626 01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:02,839 Speaker 1: Like that was never in the books. 1627 01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:07,519 Speaker 3: So you know, yeah, I guess the reason why I 1628 01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,559 Speaker 3: said they never had planned on mass producing it because 1629 01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:12,800 Speaker 3: nobody was like, hey, let's see if we can get 1630 01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:14,639 Speaker 3: this out as soon as possible. Like it wasn't even 1631 01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:15,920 Speaker 3: up on the tables, like, yeah, we can do it, 1632 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,160 Speaker 3: but we only got a short supply because we never 1633 01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:20,080 Speaker 3: uh we. 1634 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:21,639 Speaker 4: Haven't got to the point where we can mass produce 1635 01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:22,040 Speaker 4: it yet. 1636 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just not possible. It's just not It was 1637 01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:29,320 Speaker 2: never in the card. So Donald Trump Junior tested positive 1638 01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:34,200 Speaker 2: for the coronavirus, So at least there's some good news. Uh, 1639 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,640 Speaker 2: all right, let's get into some other news. 1640 01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,040 Speaker 3: Ain't he No, it was the other one I heard, 1641 01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,040 Speaker 3: the one that had take their child out of school because. 1642 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,759 Speaker 1: They was like, that's Jared Kusher and the vodka. Okay, 1643 01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,639 Speaker 1: his daughter and son in law, I believe, was like. 1644 01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:52,080 Speaker 3: You get you and your COVID COVID kids out of here. 1645 01:20:54,720 --> 01:21:01,639 Speaker 1: All right, Let's get into some other stuff. How about Oh, 1646 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:03,840 Speaker 1: what segment I want to do? Well, we've been talking 1647 01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:04,679 Speaker 1: about an hour and a half. 1648 01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:09,040 Speaker 2: Okay, you know what, let's uh, let's do some fucking 1649 01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:10,160 Speaker 2: with black people. 1650 01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:21,160 Speaker 5: Who hoo hoo hoo, just fucking with them people because 1651 01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:21,599 Speaker 5: they be. 1652 01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,439 Speaker 1: Fucking with them people. Because they're. 1653 01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:32,120 Speaker 5: Just fucking with them black people. We just fucking welcome 1654 01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:41,000 Speaker 5: black wool fucking people who. 1655 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:52,439 Speaker 2: White's only graduation party sparks outrage and protests. Activists and 1656 01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,680 Speaker 2: authorities in South Africa are at odds over a graduation 1657 01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,600 Speaker 2: party listed as white's only party. According to The New 1658 01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,160 Speaker 2: York Post, there was a clash with between two during 1659 01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:04,240 Speaker 2: a protest the two during the protests led by two 1660 01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:06,640 Speaker 2: thousand members of the Economic Freedom. 1661 01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,320 Speaker 1: Fighters, a radical left political party. 1662 01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:12,200 Speaker 2: Members are outraged at Brackenfel High School in Cape Town 1663 01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,800 Speaker 2: allow parents to have an off site White's only party. 1664 01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,759 Speaker 2: Damn Trevor Nooa did not go through all that shit 1665 01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,640 Speaker 2: for this. Okay, come on, The protest was older than 1666 01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:25,840 Speaker 2: police firing teer gas and water cannons and demonstration a demonstrators. 1667 01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,000 Speaker 2: Apparently there's a rule that only one hundred protesters can 1668 01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:29,840 Speaker 2: gather at the time. 1669 01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:32,839 Speaker 1: Well that's how's that going to work. It's a protest. 1670 01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:35,599 Speaker 2: They're not getting together because they're gonna follow the rules. 1671 01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,000 Speaker 2: The fucking it wouldn't be a protest if hey, guys, 1672 01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,759 Speaker 2: let's just keep it to ninety nine people that support 1673 01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:46,480 Speaker 2: our calls. All right, we're just okay, we're tired of racism, 1674 01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,759 Speaker 2: but not a hundred people tired of racism. 1675 01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:49,919 Speaker 1: We don't want to get arrested. 1676 01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:52,360 Speaker 3: A fly for thecounting. 1677 01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:56,719 Speaker 1: A fly for the party was distributed via What's app, but. 1678 01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,040 Speaker 2: Only to a select group of people. Oh no, that's 1679 01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,120 Speaker 2: a great way to make make sure everyone finds out, 1680 01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:06,040 Speaker 2: including several teachers. It was clear that black students weren't invited. 1681 01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:08,599 Speaker 2: Shout out to the teachers that were part of it. 1682 01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,719 Speaker 2: How does that feel? I know you wanted the cool kids. 1683 01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:15,000 Speaker 2: They could trust you. Wow, the kids invited me to 1684 01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:19,160 Speaker 2: the party. Racism zero to the hundred. Can I gave 1685 01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,799 Speaker 2: it a hundred as well. Michigan deputy has been fired 1686 01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:25,439 Speaker 2: after sharing a racist photo of Kamala Harris as a 1687 01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:26,640 Speaker 2: watermelon jaquelinin. 1688 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:32,080 Speaker 1: Oh, you hate to see it, but you know this 1689 01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:32,720 Speaker 1: is gonna be. 1690 01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:34,760 Speaker 2: It's gonna be just like when Obama got elected and 1691 01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,000 Speaker 2: we had all them gorilla memes and shit, because white 1692 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:37,759 Speaker 2: people bring. 1693 01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,240 Speaker 1: Back that old school racism. 1694 01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:45,880 Speaker 2: So if you the picture is basically it's three pumpkins 1695 01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:49,720 Speaker 2: that jaquelinins and it's Trump Biden pants and then it's 1696 01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:55,040 Speaker 2: one one watermelon Jackue Lning that says and Kamala, Happy 1697 01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,360 Speaker 2: Halloween from a sheriff. 1698 01:23:58,120 --> 01:23:58,880 Speaker 4: Oh that's new. 1699 01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:00,760 Speaker 3: I've never seen the water the Jacalatin. 1700 01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:03,599 Speaker 1: Well, that's because we've never had a black woman VP. 1701 01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:05,400 Speaker 3: Oh that's true. 1702 01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:13,960 Speaker 2: So all right, Karen zil twel hundred. Oh wait, let 1703 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:14,960 Speaker 2: me see what happened to him. 1704 01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,479 Speaker 1: Let me see. Hold up, let's not score yet. 1705 01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:22,360 Speaker 2: He's recently fired after she okay, So this woman was 1706 01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:26,000 Speaker 2: recently fired after she posted a photo on Facebook depicting 1707 01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:29,720 Speaker 2: Jackie Lands on Halloween. Okay, so she okay, So they 1708 01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,760 Speaker 2: fired this woman that was the sheriff, the now former 1709 01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:36,080 Speaker 2: employees identified as Sherry Pros, a retired part time employee 1710 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:36,719 Speaker 2: at the department. 1711 01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:37,400 Speaker 1: Oh part time? 1712 01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:38,880 Speaker 3: Oh you an't even full time? 1713 01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,240 Speaker 1: Who reicht? They job in the coronavirus? 1714 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,080 Speaker 3: We even got insurance, honey on the. 1715 01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:45,080 Speaker 1: Government's email on your dot GUV. 1716 01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,840 Speaker 3: Come on, they love the dot PMD, don't it? 1717 01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:53,440 Speaker 1: Please? Department? They love that one at GOLV. Good grief anyway, Karen. 1718 01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,519 Speaker 3: Seventy five because you got fired but still as fucked up. 1719 01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:02,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna give it seventy five as well. These motherfuckers, boy, yeah, they. 1720 01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:06,240 Speaker 3: Wild honey at whatever your job is dot com that 1721 01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:06,800 Speaker 3: be on it. 1722 01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:09,920 Speaker 1: Imagine hating anybody this much? 1723 01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,960 Speaker 3: Right, you could have made a regular ass pumpkin and 1724 01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:14,000 Speaker 3: been fine. 1725 01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:18,960 Speaker 2: Black people hate Trump. Does everyone notice we hate Trump? 1726 01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,240 Speaker 2: I don't think they understand that, but we hate on 1727 01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,040 Speaker 2: so much. But my point I trying to get everybody 1728 01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,600 Speaker 2: understand we hate Trump. We all to shake hands and 1729 01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:31,280 Speaker 2: agreed that we hate Trump. We don't send out reckless 1730 01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:34,920 Speaker 2: emails from our job. Despite everything this man has done 1731 01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:36,719 Speaker 2: and said directly about us. 1732 01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:38,639 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris just got. 1733 01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:42,639 Speaker 2: The job of VP. She ain't never said no fucked 1734 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,320 Speaker 2: up shit about white people or some shit like she 1735 01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:49,040 Speaker 2: just got the job. She recognizes that white supremacy is 1736 01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,840 Speaker 2: a thing. She recognized that black maternal health is a thing. 1737 01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:56,640 Speaker 2: She recognizes that their systemic issues. But she doesn't fucking. 1738 01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:57,920 Speaker 1: Go up every day and go. 1739 01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,280 Speaker 2: You know, these white people, we need to get them 1740 01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:03,160 Speaker 2: and center the shell country. She doesn't say, let's put 1741 01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:06,680 Speaker 2: these people in the pages. She doesn't say, you know, 1742 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,720 Speaker 2: these dumb ass white people won't support me, and what 1743 01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:12,559 Speaker 2: do you got to lose? 1744 01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:13,519 Speaker 1: She doesn't say that. 1745 01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:18,880 Speaker 2: And yet the racism leaped out, leaked out, just jumped 1746 01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:22,599 Speaker 2: all the way. Okay, just made a Captain America leap 1747 01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:26,960 Speaker 2: across the fucking street, across the shield hell apt carriers. 1748 01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:31,640 Speaker 2: It leaked out so strong anyway, one hundred. Now that 1749 01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:33,479 Speaker 2: I think about it, I don't even care if she 1750 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,479 Speaker 2: got fired. It's just a part time josh. She can 1751 01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,559 Speaker 2: gett no insurance. She probably gonna go probably gotta gofund 1752 01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:43,240 Speaker 2: me to raise all that money back, all right. Next, 1753 01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:47,160 Speaker 2: one California family is accused of acting black in a 1754 01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:51,160 Speaker 2: white neighborhood. Oh, you never want to do that, you know, 1755 01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,040 Speaker 2: that's honestly the worst thing you can do, you know, 1756 01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:56,400 Speaker 2: y'all would be acting black in a neighborhood and you 1757 01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,080 Speaker 2: be like, I hope I don't get kicked out for this, 1758 01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:01,840 Speaker 2: and I don't know exactly what it entails, but let's 1759 01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,280 Speaker 2: find out. I mean, I have some I have some 1760 01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,720 Speaker 2: speculations on what acting black in the neighborhood could be. 1761 01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,840 Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna let the racism leap out of 1762 01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:12,600 Speaker 2: me yet. 1763 01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,840 Speaker 7: We're not we're not talking about anything except that I 1764 01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:20,519 Speaker 7: have a small little dog and you have a pit bull. 1765 01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:21,759 Speaker 4: And you're yelling with the taser. 1766 01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:24,880 Speaker 7: Why I brought it over her for a dog? 1767 01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:26,840 Speaker 3: The dog attacked my dog. 1768 01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,759 Speaker 7: The dog's not even outside, ma'am. 1769 01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:30,800 Speaker 3: He was outside, he was. 1770 01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:36,680 Speaker 7: He didn't talk, he didn't attack the dogs. I have 1771 01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:38,840 Speaker 7: it on camera. It don't matter what she said, because 1772 01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:39,599 Speaker 7: I got it right here. 1773 01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:43,760 Speaker 4: You know what, what you guys are acting. 1774 01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:44,280 Speaker 3: Like my people. 1775 01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:51,840 Speaker 1: What I said, you acted like black people. 1776 01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:56,120 Speaker 2: You shouldn't. You should act like white people. First of all, okay, 1777 01:27:56,280 --> 01:28:01,080 Speaker 2: let me just say this. I love how she decided. 1778 01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:04,360 Speaker 2: You can see the moment to switch flip. Well, she said, 1779 01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,800 Speaker 2: fuck it, I'm gonna gonnahead be racist like she was, 1780 01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,160 Speaker 2: like she was struggling with it. She was coding it. 1781 01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,720 Speaker 2: But listen to this. When she hit that, you know 1782 01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,680 Speaker 2: what she said, this is that flip. I'm gonna go 1783 01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:17,840 Speaker 2: ahead and turned the racism level up to one hundred. 1784 01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:20,240 Speaker 7: It don't matter what she said, because I got it 1785 01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:20,720 Speaker 7: right here. 1786 01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:24,760 Speaker 1: You know what, what you guys are acting like. 1787 01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:26,760 Speaker 7: People like. 1788 01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,280 Speaker 1: That came got wildly shot. I was gonna smack the 1789 01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:31,400 Speaker 1: hell out, I. 1790 01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:35,519 Speaker 2: Thought, minute started shaking like a Chase on cop. 1791 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,920 Speaker 1: A. What bitch, I'm what, I'm I got your blackness? 1792 01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:45,640 Speaker 2: What a shout out? Whoever's roasting in the back, and 1793 01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:46,799 Speaker 2: you're acting like Karen. 1794 01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,320 Speaker 4: That's the Peanut Gallley in the background. 1795 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,040 Speaker 2: Black people stay ready with a fucking equiped, don't they, 1796 01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:57,400 Speaker 2: And you're acting like Karen. 1797 01:28:57,560 --> 01:28:59,320 Speaker 1: So now how does that feel? 1798 01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:04,320 Speaker 2: You're gonna be great now, sweetheart, you're turning away from 1799 01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:08,479 Speaker 2: your back. Okay, wait, wait, can you repeat that one 1800 01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:08,760 Speaker 2: more time? 1801 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:10,960 Speaker 4: We're acting like what I. 1802 01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,360 Speaker 3: Was raised in Oklahoma City where there were tons of 1803 01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:16,439 Speaker 3: black people, So we're acting like what. You're acting like 1804 01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,040 Speaker 3: people that aren't normal. 1805 01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:22,360 Speaker 2: Okay, oh she she bowed down, so she's she did 1806 01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:23,400 Speaker 2: stumble over that black. 1807 01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,759 Speaker 1: She said that black the way RANDALP. Terrence be joking 1808 01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:26,080 Speaker 1: about it. 1809 01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:29,960 Speaker 2: She was like, you're acting like black because you know 1810 01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,920 Speaker 2: what she wanted to say, Oh, how'd you know? 1811 01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,200 Speaker 1: Can you in the twenty million dollar question. 1812 01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:38,480 Speaker 4: The darkest jigaboos? 1813 01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:39,519 Speaker 3: I mean I can go down. 1814 01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,520 Speaker 4: I can go down your wide nose bastard. 1815 01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:44,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I mean, if. 1816 01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:46,920 Speaker 4: You want to your bug eyed frog, I mean, let's go. 1817 01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:50,320 Speaker 4: I got I can go all damn day. This would 1818 01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,080 Speaker 4: be real nice when you're on the news, when you're 1819 01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:54,000 Speaker 4: on social media. 1820 01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:55,680 Speaker 3: When get the. 1821 01:29:55,720 --> 01:30:02,320 Speaker 4: The property, get the property, I don't get off the property. 1822 01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:05,720 Speaker 2: What she say, top secret clearance? This white woman is 1823 01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,880 Speaker 2: making ship up. She's like, listen, I am a white woman. 1824 01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:13,120 Speaker 2: I am calling invoking double secret, white woman top secret clearance. 1825 01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:16,200 Speaker 1: I can come in your house now. Okay, y'all don't 1826 01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,640 Speaker 1: even know about these white people. Did you read your 1827 01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:21,599 Speaker 1: whole home owners association agreement? 1828 01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:27,559 Speaker 2: Because any white person invoking triple top secret clearance can 1829 01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:30,720 Speaker 2: enter a black premise, okay, just like. 1830 01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:31,280 Speaker 1: The other one. 1831 01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,680 Speaker 3: Into the Chick fil A and was saying how she 1832 01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,599 Speaker 3: was investigating chicken. 1833 01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,679 Speaker 2: Chicken police, Chicken police. I'm part of the Chicken police 1834 01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:41,760 Speaker 2: investigation unit. You didn't even know about. 1835 01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:44,600 Speaker 4: I'm a branch of that, so you need to go 1836 01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:45,000 Speaker 4: ahead and. 1837 01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,200 Speaker 2: Come come up off of this chicken. I smell chicken 1838 01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:51,200 Speaker 2: in here. That is that Polynesia sauce? I smell yeah, 1839 01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,160 Speaker 2: I think it is. We have legal grounds to enter 1840 01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,360 Speaker 2: your bode as part of the federal Chicken community. 1841 01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:59,559 Speaker 4: Is that season and not a little bit of salt 1842 01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:01,920 Speaker 4: and peppertic caste? Oh no, no, no, I can't be 1843 01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:02,559 Speaker 4: having this. 1844 01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:12,719 Speaker 2: Shout out to the father, shout out to the father 1845 01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:16,400 Speaker 2: for saving his daughters to charge. You're like, go ahead, 1846 01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,120 Speaker 2: I'll go back in the house because if I had 1847 01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:21,479 Speaker 2: to slap this woman, I'm gonna need some witnesses and 1848 01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:24,920 Speaker 2: some ich is be the only one going to jail. 1849 01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:30,280 Speaker 2: By the way, these are some nice houses. I see 1850 01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:31,160 Speaker 2: what she's confused. 1851 01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,280 Speaker 1: She's like, Nigga's not even when I signed. 1852 01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:39,680 Speaker 2: The agreement for the mortgage, they promised no niggas. I 1853 01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:46,280 Speaker 2: look up, I see a pitbull in the yard. Okay, 1854 01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:50,639 Speaker 2: your cars sitting on twenty folds, they spinning. You're acting 1855 01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:52,080 Speaker 2: black when I come to the door. 1856 01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:55,760 Speaker 1: Uh you got your hat brim? 1857 01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:58,920 Speaker 2: Uh your your your curved it when you didn't just 1858 01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:01,680 Speaker 2: wear it flatten straight out of the package. 1859 01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:03,000 Speaker 1: And you curved that hat brown. 1860 01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:05,800 Speaker 2: And this is not the type of blackness I was 1861 01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:07,040 Speaker 2: expecting in my neighborhood. 1862 01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:09,080 Speaker 1: I won't speak to a manager. 1863 01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:12,360 Speaker 7: Over here with a taser. 1864 01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:16,559 Speaker 3: I came because your pet ball attacked my little. 1865 01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:18,599 Speaker 7: Not at all. 1866 01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:20,799 Speaker 3: Your son was out here with that and he didn't 1867 01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:24,080 Speaker 3: the dog the dog I saw the dog. 1868 01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:27,120 Speaker 2: I didn't do I just petted the dog because I 1869 01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:29,160 Speaker 2: wanted to see if he's okay. 1870 01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:31,800 Speaker 7: I didn't pet the dog. But you pet the dog 1871 01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:32,479 Speaker 7: because you wanted. 1872 01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:36,960 Speaker 4: To shout after my man got it too, making ship up. 1873 01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,840 Speaker 1: Oh man, I love me a calm. I know that. 1874 01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:42,000 Speaker 2: You know we're in the age of you know, smack 1875 01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:43,760 Speaker 2: the ship out of white people and kill him. But 1876 01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:47,800 Speaker 2: I love you a calm. Just like so, you didn't 1877 01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:50,200 Speaker 2: smack the dog. You didn't touch the dog, but you 1878 01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:51,680 Speaker 2: petted the doll to see if it was okay. I 1879 01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:53,759 Speaker 2: saw you touched the dog. I didn't touch the dog. 1880 01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,240 Speaker 2: I touched the dog to see if it was all right. 1881 01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:05,720 Speaker 1: Like yeah, ma'am, you a god damn lie, like like 1882 01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:11,960 Speaker 1: you see something now you see now you know fucked up? 1883 01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:18,800 Speaker 5: I said, no, I thought that what you're saying that 1884 01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:19,479 Speaker 5: you're not fucked up. 1885 01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:23,040 Speaker 6: Now you that do yeam know you don't fucked up. 1886 01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:25,639 Speaker 1: That's what happened. 1887 01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:34,400 Speaker 2: So you touched the dog at seven point thirty. Now, 1888 01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:36,599 Speaker 2: now I didn't touch the dog, That's what I'm saying. 1889 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:39,320 Speaker 2: I never touched the dog. I saw you pet the dog. 1890 01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:44,800 Speaker 2: You pet the dog at seven forty five. Uh, I 1891 01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:47,200 Speaker 2: mean I peted the dog to see if it was okay. 1892 01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:50,479 Speaker 2: Now I see now now, now you know you're not 1893 01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:51,000 Speaker 2: fucked up? 1894 01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:54,920 Speaker 1: Now don't you see? Now I see? Now you see 1895 01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:56,240 Speaker 1: now you know you're done fucked up. 1896 01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:03,560 Speaker 7: I didn't. I just passed it because I wanted to 1897 01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:07,320 Speaker 7: see if he's okay. You didn't pet the dog, but 1898 01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:08,720 Speaker 7: you petted the dog because you wanted to see if 1899 01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:09,280 Speaker 7: he was okay. 1900 01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:21,439 Speaker 3: Record, he said, everybody about to know who you are. 1901 01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:25,240 Speaker 1: Oh man, yell, where am I gonna go? 1902 01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:32,040 Speaker 2: Where am I gonna he the hell the hell out? 1903 01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:36,240 Speaker 1: Sue the hell of them for what? For embarrassing me 1904 01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:37,400 Speaker 1: as a racist white woman? 1905 01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:42,400 Speaker 3: Of course, go go go say what are you. 1906 01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:44,120 Speaker 7: Gonna do about a little tom like this? And that 1907 01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:46,559 Speaker 7: he ain't done nothing to your dog? 1908 01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:46,840 Speaker 1: Can you? 1909 01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:50,680 Speaker 7: What about other all the other big dogs around you? 1910 01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,679 Speaker 4: Know, most people in Oklahoma that labors that were black normal. 1911 01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:58,439 Speaker 1: We're normal, these abnormal blacks. You know? You know how 1912 01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:02,240 Speaker 1: we do? 1913 01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:03,880 Speaker 7: You keep walking over here with you. 1914 01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:09,040 Speaker 4: Because you don't want to. 1915 01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:12,960 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a problem, yes, because she wants them 1916 01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:15,080 Speaker 3: to attack her so she can play victim. 1917 01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:18,519 Speaker 2: Well, also, isn't your daughter or probably it sounds like, 1918 01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:21,519 Speaker 2: so you're not gonna want your daughter to be involved 1919 01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:22,240 Speaker 2: in this conflict. 1920 01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't blame you can't. You know they're 1921 01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:26,479 Speaker 1: filming it. 1922 01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:29,080 Speaker 2: I mean, see the thing is they live there, so 1923 01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:31,160 Speaker 2: they're really doing this for their own protection. I mean, 1924 01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:33,400 Speaker 2: we're laughing, but it's not really funny. I mean, it's 1925 01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:35,760 Speaker 2: fucked up. If some white woman knocked on my door 1926 01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:37,479 Speaker 2: right now claiming to be a victim of some ship 1927 01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:38,400 Speaker 2: I knew she didn't do. 1928 01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:39,839 Speaker 1: And now I gotta. 1929 01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:42,200 Speaker 2: Live here, and this bitch live here too, so who 1930 01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:44,320 Speaker 2: knows what the fuck else can escalate from this. I 1931 01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:46,000 Speaker 2: mean they're filming the ship just so they have a 1932 01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:47,519 Speaker 2: record of how crazy she is. 1933 01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:51,240 Speaker 1: That's a good idea. 1934 01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,000 Speaker 4: It's gonna be real nice when there's hundred of people. 1935 01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:54,920 Speaker 3: In front of your house because you want to be 1936 01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:58,920 Speaker 3: a racist white woman, Karen, back up, could you keep 1937 01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:01,920 Speaker 3: touching on a snack? You have a tough saint for parents. 1938 01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:02,840 Speaker 7: You know what's gonna have to you. 1939 01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:08,880 Speaker 4: Guys, Guys Chrystal clear, we don't care. 1940 01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:09,240 Speaker 3: Ma'am. 1941 01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,559 Speaker 1: His daughter like, I'm gonna you know what. He is 1942 01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:14,679 Speaker 1: standing there to protect this daughter from going to jail. 1943 01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:16,519 Speaker 1: She's like, I was smack the ship out of you, bitch. 1944 01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:19,559 Speaker 2: He's like, come on, calm down, baby, this the man 1945 01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:20,400 Speaker 2: get off my property. 1946 01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:23,439 Speaker 3: And she keeps walking towards her provoker. Yeah, because this 1947 01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:25,240 Speaker 3: is the ship they do. Mm hmm. 1948 01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:32,880 Speaker 7: Yes, you are, especially after this. You about to lose 1949 01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,439 Speaker 7: a lot, are you? You wish I was? 1950 01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:35,720 Speaker 3: Uh? 1951 01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:41,519 Speaker 4: Okay that said you look like a wife. 1952 01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:44,760 Speaker 2: That's just that's like when a comedian tries to do 1953 01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:47,519 Speaker 2: crowd work and they started running out of material because 1954 01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:49,720 Speaker 2: they vomiting, So they just start asking. 1955 01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:50,960 Speaker 1: Questions they don't even know the answer to. 1956 01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:55,800 Speaker 2: Uh you uh you you work at a sewage plant, 1957 01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:57,920 Speaker 2: like nigga, you got some jokes about sewage plans? 1958 01:36:57,920 --> 01:36:59,320 Speaker 1: You want to get out this? 1959 01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,400 Speaker 4: This this is about sound like me. 1960 01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:05,599 Speaker 3: Years ago, one of my cousins we had went out 1961 01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:08,600 Speaker 3: to eat with some of my aunts and stuff, and 1962 01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:11,320 Speaker 3: hern her mama or her daddy wasn't there, but at 1963 01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:13,559 Speaker 3: the time she was, she looked like a little white girl. 1964 01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:15,840 Speaker 3: So we went out to eat. It was a white 1965 01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:18,160 Speaker 3: couple across from us, and I think that they probably 1966 01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:20,559 Speaker 3: want to ask me, you know what, she white? Because 1967 01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:23,880 Speaker 3: the whole time we were sitting there, they just stared 1968 01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:25,920 Speaker 3: and kind of interrupted their meal. And so the more 1969 01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:29,080 Speaker 3: they stared the more because I was the only one 1970 01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:31,439 Speaker 3: that looked like I was of age, actually bear child. 1971 01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:35,280 Speaker 3: So I was like kissing all up on her and 1972 01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:38,519 Speaker 3: hugging up on her and feeding it, like spoon feeding 1973 01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:41,320 Speaker 3: her and loving up on her. And I'm pretty sure 1974 01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:43,960 Speaker 3: if they could have they won't. They would have asked, 1975 01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:44,599 Speaker 3: she white? 1976 01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:46,000 Speaker 1: Are you a white? 1977 01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:49,000 Speaker 2: You look like you could be, So maybe you can 1978 01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:52,240 Speaker 2: be reasonable and talk to your black father, because let's 1979 01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:56,679 Speaker 2: be honest, he's a strange black. I grew up around 1980 01:37:56,720 --> 01:38:00,200 Speaker 2: blacks in Oklahoma City and they weren't like this. Oh know, 1981 01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:04,360 Speaker 2: they were well behaved black many took care of my children. 1982 01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:06,840 Speaker 3: You remind me of the slaves that we had to 1983 01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:07,240 Speaker 3: let go. 1984 01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:10,040 Speaker 2: One of my favorite nannies was a black and she 1985 01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:11,160 Speaker 2: would never act like this. 1986 01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:12,559 Speaker 1: She didn't own any dogs. 1987 01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:16,000 Speaker 2: We actually kept her children on leashes and let them 1988 01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:16,799 Speaker 2: play with the dogs. 1989 01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:18,160 Speaker 1: And it wasn't like this at all. 1990 01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:19,840 Speaker 3: But I was raised does. 1991 01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:27,280 Speaker 4: Why are you act very nice? 1992 01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:32,719 Speaker 1: Oh my god? You know that's the end of the video, 1993 01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:35,040 Speaker 1: Karen Zio to one hundred. 1994 01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:37,880 Speaker 3: Oh this why when we get into your car its 1995 01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:39,439 Speaker 3: walking up on their property and ship. 1996 01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:43,400 Speaker 2: The weird part to me is I just I just 1997 01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:46,080 Speaker 2: feel like if Will Smith wouldn't have said that ship 1998 01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,280 Speaker 2: when he was twenty three, this wouldn't have happened. 1999 01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:49,880 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 2000 01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:55,000 Speaker 2: So I really it's kind of his fault, So do better, 2001 01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:57,120 Speaker 2: Will Smith? Allren't sick of this shit. 2002 01:38:57,479 --> 01:38:59,880 Speaker 1: We we're trying to move on and you're not. He 2003 01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:04,639 Speaker 1: all right, so leave it there. 2004 01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:12,120 Speaker 2: Uh all right, Let's do some sword ratchetness and wrap 2005 01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:15,560 Speaker 2: this bad boy up, all right. If you want to 2006 01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:18,720 Speaker 2: listen to more podcasting with me on it, you can 2007 01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,280 Speaker 2: check me out on the Mind of Don when it 2008 01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:23,679 Speaker 2: comes out this week. And I was also on both 2009 01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:25,559 Speaker 2: episodes and Three Guys on when it comes. 2010 01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:26,880 Speaker 1: Out this week this weekend. 2011 01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah yep, and I will be on Chris Lambert's podcast 2012 01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:34,920 Speaker 2: when it comes out this week, So uh, if you 2013 01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:36,840 Speaker 2: need If you're like this episode was long enough, I 2014 01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:38,519 Speaker 2: need more Rod in my life, that's where you can 2015 01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:38,880 Speaker 2: find me. 2016 01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:40,680 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna be on them shows. 2017 01:39:40,960 --> 01:40:08,120 Speaker 2: All right, Let's get to some sword ratchetness, right. A 2018 01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:11,920 Speaker 2: neighbor tells a court of bizarre sight of a couple 2019 01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:16,759 Speaker 2: with a samurai sword chasing a man. A man has 2020 01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:19,400 Speaker 2: described to a jury the bizarre site of his thoroughly 2021 01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:22,559 Speaker 2: unpleasant neighbors chasing a man along a Sydney street with. 2022 01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:26,000 Speaker 1: A samurai sword. Well, you know what they say. What 2023 01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:29,719 Speaker 1: they say, The couple that slays together stays together. 2024 01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:34,280 Speaker 2: Oh no, okay, a man has a Thomas Scott and 2025 01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:38,439 Speaker 2: his girlfriend were walking home to Inner City Forest Lodge 2026 01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:43,759 Speaker 2: on the tenth of August twenty eighteen when they noticed 2027 01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:47,360 Speaker 2: someone piss bowl team down the street. I guess that 2028 01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:51,599 Speaker 2: means running hard, Scott said. He then saw a woman 2029 01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:55,200 Speaker 2: in an extremely fast and extremely angry pursuit who appeared 2030 01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:57,519 Speaker 2: disheveled as though she had just jumped out of bed 2031 01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:02,479 Speaker 2: and yelled aggressive A girl, who are you bro? Multiple times? 2032 01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:07,760 Speaker 2: Looks looked like a sketchy scenario, he said. You don't say, well, 2033 01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:10,280 Speaker 2: they look good in this picture. Coming out of the courtroom, though, 2034 01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:12,559 Speaker 2: I mean you gotta give it to him. I mean, 2035 01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:16,200 Speaker 2: you know, they look like the swingers you meet in 2036 01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:21,240 Speaker 2: the club and go maybe you know, we can make this. 2037 01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:25,759 Speaker 2: Scott said he remembered a third man holding a decorative 2038 01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:29,519 Speaker 2: samurai store he had seen displayed opposite his home after 2039 01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:31,760 Speaker 2: making much mockery of it in the past. They were 2040 01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:35,160 Speaker 2: thoroughly unpleasant neighbors, Hannah Quinn in twenty six and Blake 2041 01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:37,600 Speaker 2: Davis thirty one that propleted not guilty the murder, and 2042 01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:40,439 Speaker 2: Jet McKee after allegedly burst into the couple's home and 2043 01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:43,559 Speaker 2: demanded money. Quinn also denies being accessory after the fact 2044 01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:46,559 Speaker 2: to the murder. The thirty year old Sidney rapper McKee 2045 01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:49,240 Speaker 2: wanted to rob drug dealers to feed his gambling addiction, 2046 01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:52,559 Speaker 2: God damn, this should be an episode of a TV show, 2047 01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:58,000 Speaker 2: and had been using the drug Ice. The Crown has 2048 01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:01,240 Speaker 2: alleged to pair chase McKee about a hundred meters down 2049 01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:04,120 Speaker 2: the street before Quinn pulled him to the ground and 2050 01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:07,599 Speaker 2: David struck his head with the samurai sword. Scott called 2051 01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:11,040 Speaker 2: Davis's weird stance as something like something. 2052 01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:11,960 Speaker 1: He had seen in a movie. 2053 01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:14,320 Speaker 2: While running and holding the sword with two hands out 2054 01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:16,320 Speaker 2: diagonally in front of him. 2055 01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:20,280 Speaker 1: He was running on naro on them. Wait yeah, dagging. 2056 01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:22,640 Speaker 2: Oh no, he said in front of him. What the 2057 01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:24,960 Speaker 2: fuck is that holding the sword like this? 2058 01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:26,360 Speaker 1: I guess like a semmarum. 2059 01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:30,120 Speaker 3: I don't know he's He thought he was seeing a 2060 01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:32,920 Speaker 3: Viur YouTube clip to the tune of Yackety Sacks with 2061 01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:35,840 Speaker 3: his performers being chased around a car park park. 2062 01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:38,799 Speaker 1: It was a It was a comical scene. It was absurd. 2063 01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:41,040 Speaker 1: He was in his undies as well, so it was 2064 01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:41,920 Speaker 1: even more bizarre. 2065 01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:45,280 Speaker 2: He described Davis wearing dark boxes shorts and said he 2066 01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:47,800 Speaker 2: and Quinn were barefoot. Not long got the Scott had 2067 01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:50,120 Speaker 2: to arrived back at the apartment and lit a cigarette 2068 01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,120 Speaker 2: on his balcony, he saw a couple returning the other way. 2069 01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:54,559 Speaker 2: After watching their heads bobbing up and down, he told 2070 01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:56,960 Speaker 2: the court he saw them enter through the sliding door 2071 01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:59,559 Speaker 2: before leaving shortly after jumping out of the back fence 2072 01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:03,200 Speaker 2: and fleet not even taking a car. What he said, 2073 01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:05,160 Speaker 2: he remembered thinking it was strange if the assuming they 2074 01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:08,599 Speaker 2: had busted the man who had appeared scared as if 2075 01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:10,920 Speaker 2: he had been caught doing something wrong. He said the 2076 01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:14,040 Speaker 2: woman was holding a flimsy bag small enough for lip gloss. Oh, 2077 01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:17,559 Speaker 2: she had to go back, while his girlfriend remarked the 2078 01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:18,240 Speaker 2: man had. 2079 01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:21,240 Speaker 3: Lip gloss, drawls and fucking dress. 2080 01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:24,559 Speaker 2: Probably that's all you need, while his girlfriend remarked that 2081 01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:28,519 Speaker 2: the man had blood on his face. Quinn's case is 2082 01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:30,680 Speaker 2: that she was she was chasing at the McKee who 2083 01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:33,880 Speaker 2: had stolen her handbag, but when she caught up with him, 2084 01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:36,160 Speaker 2: he threatened out with a gun. Scott said he did 2085 01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:39,640 Speaker 2: not see a gun. The trial continues, Well, when a 2086 01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:42,960 Speaker 2: sword is involved, you just never know what's gonna fucking happen. 2087 01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:45,640 Speaker 2: I tell her that much, all right, But all I 2088 01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:49,439 Speaker 2: know for me that shit would have never happened if 2089 01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:51,280 Speaker 2: Will Smith went and went on that radio show. 2090 01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:57,080 Speaker 1: Damn you, Will Smith. You better apologize me too, all right, 2091 01:43:57,160 --> 01:43:58,600 Speaker 1: y'all Will Smith. That's it. 2092 01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:01,920 Speaker 2: We'll talk to y'all later. Thanks for listening, and we'll 2093 01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:04,760 Speaker 2: be back tomorrow. Until then, I love you, I love 2094 01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:05,200 Speaker 1: You to go