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Speaker 2: coming up tonight. Big milestone for Gino Orient setting the

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Speaker 2: collegiate win total at one thy two hundred and seventeen.

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Speaker 2: all of that plus get ready for the big debate. Oh,

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Speaker 2: it's coming, and it's going to be there for a

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Speaker 2: little while. Is Eli manning a first ballot Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 2: He's a semi finalist. They're twenty five semi finalist. So

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about who is getting in, who should get in,

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Speaker 2: and who's going to be kicked to the curb once again.

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Speaker 2: That'll be coming up a little bit. All right, good morning.

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Speaker 2: the country. iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio and our four hundred

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Speaker 2: over four hundred affiliates around the country. I was a

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Speaker 2: real man yesterday. I'm in Maine. So what did I

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Speaker 2: do yesterday afternoon? How about you, guys? Guess what a

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Speaker 2: real man does in May in the afternoon. Temperatures probably

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Speaker 2: in the upper forties. It was overcast, and I was

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Speaker 2: a man.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Paul, it's November, it's getting chilly. You were chopping

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Speaker 3: some wood.

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Speaker 2: No, no, all the wood is chopped. Todd, what do

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Speaker 2: you think I did yesterday being a man?

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Speaker 4: I think you were out in the cold fishing and

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Speaker 4: then you cooked up something to eat off of that fishing.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, who knows what a real man is all about?

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Speaker 2: Blop bloop. Yes, I was fly fishing yesterday, fly fishing

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Speaker 2: for salmon and trout, and I'm still fishing for I

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Speaker 2: didn't catch, but I was fishing yesterday, but I felt

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Speaker 2: like a man out there.

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Speaker 4: Now you hold for compliments, Wow, look what you did?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 2: Less than four minutes in I had the over, But congratulations.

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Speaker 3: Was a little bit of like a brad pit river

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Speaker 3: run through it feel and the wind in your hair,

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Speaker 3: the waiters, you know, did you feel good out there?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean you felt like a man kind of, except

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Speaker 2: for catching fish and looking good while trying to catch fish.

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Speaker 2: I was kind of like Brad Pitt.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Seeton, I think you're just getting towards the end

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Speaker 6: of bear hunting season in Maine. I think that ends

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Speaker 6: at the end of November, so you still got a

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Speaker 6: couple of days left if you want to keep owing

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Speaker 6: your manhood.

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Speaker 3: And we're starting bear at tax season. Yeah, bear tax

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Speaker 3: season No. Twelfth, that's right.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Okay, here's the I didn't realize this, but

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Speaker 2: I go to this park. It's woods, it's a you know,

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Speaker 2: some kind of big area that you can go hiking.

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Speaker 2: And somebody said, hey, you don't have orange on. You

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Speaker 2: better get some orange on, and I go, I'm just

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Speaker 2: walking through that. I mean, this is where families go

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Speaker 2: and you bring your dog. And then they go, well, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: there are people who are hunting in this area for bear, whatever, deer, deer,

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Speaker 2: And I said, wait a minute, so they could mistake

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Speaker 2: me for He said, yes, you know I was wearing brown.

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Speaker 2: I'm wearing a brown hoodie, and I'm thinking they see me,

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Speaker 2: you know kind.

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Speaker 3: Of brownhood what do you have an antler hat on?

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Speaker 2: I might as well leaving hook Prince. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: I thought their families walking through, and you know, they

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Speaker 2: there's people hunting in here. Says yeah, with bows, crossbows,

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Speaker 2: and they can hit things from one hundred yards out.

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Speaker 2: So the whole time I'm walking, I'm going, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: do I make noise? Like I don't know how you

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Speaker 2: to somebody one hundred yards away. But that's the kind

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Speaker 2: of manly things I was doing. And then came home,

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Speaker 2: build a fire outside, had some keeper's heart, had a cigar,

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Speaker 2: and I was all alone, just me, the moon and

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Speaker 2: the stars. Yes, tot.

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Speaker 4: Is it a certain shade of orange? Tennessee, Syracuse? Something else?

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Speaker 1: Go annoy?

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Speaker 4: What kind of orange you have to get her?

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Speaker 2: Avoid? I think I should get Tennessee. I need the

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Speaker 2: brightest orange possible. Checkerboard that just basic, Yeah, just something

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Speaker 2: that says, don't shoot me. But hey, I'm learning. I'm

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Speaker 2: learning on the job here in May. All right, poll question, Seaton,

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Speaker 2: what are we gonna go with an hour one on

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Speaker 2: this program?

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Speaker 6: I got many options for you. Do you want a

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Speaker 6: Paul question or a Todd question.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Todd because he came out of the

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Speaker 2: gate strong, and let's see if we can keep the

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Speaker 2: momentum going.

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Speaker 6: To do That's a Thursday if I'm not mistaken. So

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Speaker 6: he's got lindsay he likes a Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Poll question. Let's see.

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Speaker 6: Uh, will tonight's divisional quote trap game result in a

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Speaker 6: loss for the Steelers in Cleveland. Your options are yes,

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Speaker 6: Pittsburgh slips up tonight versus the Browns, or no, the

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Speaker 6: steel curtain closes on the dog pound tonight.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it could have been just yes or no, but

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Speaker 2: I do that's not fun script. Yes, okay? Is it

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Speaker 2: a trap game if everybody knows it's a trap game?

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Speaker 2: If I say to the Steelers, hey, it's a trap

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Speaker 2: game for the Browns, Hey, they know it's a trap game,

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Speaker 2: is it still a trap game if they're overlooking the

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Paul Mike Tomlin was actually asked if this were a

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Speaker 3: trap game, and he said, no, I'm aware of those.

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Speaker 3: I've been doing this a while. So that was on Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: It can't be a trap game if the coach addresses

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Speaker 3: it on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, all right? What else do you have time?

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Speaker 4: We've got the now two and twelve Sixers will be

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Speaker 4: just fine, relaxed the long season, ultimately make the postseason,

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Speaker 4: but it's a first round exit for them, not make

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Speaker 4: the playoffs altogether. Already calling it fourteen games in what?

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Speaker 2: Wow? Fourteen games? Will not your leader if your leader

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Speaker 2: is what twenty three years of age? Tyrese Maxi calling

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Speaker 2: out Joel and b Paul, Joey or is injured again,

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Speaker 2: embiid as late for team activities. This doesn't bode well.

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Speaker 2: He's not playing back to back games, and then one

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Speaker 2: of your youngest players, your best player right now, is

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Speaker 2: calling out joe llenb What could go wrong that hasn't

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Speaker 2: already gone wrong? Feels like this is not playoff bound

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Speaker 2: for Philadelphia? What else do you have?

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Speaker 4: How will Lebron James taking a break from social media

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Speaker 4: affect your daily life? The choices are actually a lot

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Speaker 4: more than you may realize, and I'd like to hear

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Speaker 4: the answer to that a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But I'm confident I can work around it, So that's nice.

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Speaker 4: You can figure out a way around it, or surprisingly,

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Speaker 4: my roles and responsibilities at home and work should remain

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Speaker 4: relatively unchanged.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's going to affect me on

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Speaker 2: a daily basis, but let's see. I mean it's early.

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Speaker 2: He just decided that he was going to take a

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Speaker 2: break from social media. Now I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 2: How do you take a break from social media? Do

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Speaker 2: you get rid of all of your social media threads?

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Speaker 1: There?

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Speaker 2: Or how people can respond to you? I'm not a

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Speaker 2: social media person. Yes, Paul, I had two thoughts when

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Speaker 2: I saw this story. I just air quoted.

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Speaker 3: By the way, why do you announce you're taking a

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Speaker 3: break from social media? Because if you're taking a break

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Speaker 3: from social media is to get less interaction and attention.

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Speaker 3: You could do that by just taking a break from

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Speaker 3: social media. However, I'm gonna call my shot here. Lebron

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Speaker 3: James is about to announce a new partnership with some

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Speaker 3: type of social media platform in the next two months.

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Speaker 3: My guess is Lebron is a gigantic businessman. We'll take

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Speaker 3: a break from different platforms that he's on and before

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Speaker 3: Christmas will say I am now with blank whatever. The

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Speaker 3: new hot one is that he owns ten percent.

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Speaker 2: All right, Okay, I don't know what it means to

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Speaker 2: take a break from social media, and you're right, if

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Speaker 2: you're taking a break, do you announce you're taking a

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Speaker 2: break from social media? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: See, I think taking a break from social media is

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Speaker 6: exactly like how you've lived your life right up until

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Speaker 6: this point.

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Speaker 2: There's really no different than that. Okay, it's just I've

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Speaker 2: taken a break from social media for well all my life.

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Speaker 2: It's exactly right. That's exactly the point.

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Speaker 6: So it's like, oh, you just don't go on it anymore,

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Speaker 6: and then it's like it's not there. Okay, took a break.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to announce that I'm going to join social

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Speaker 2: media now if Lebron is not going to be part

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Speaker 2: of stuff, build a void, bell the void. People just

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Speaker 2: assume you have Facebook, Like they'll just go, well, you

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Speaker 2: got Facebook, right, and I'll go, No, how old are you?

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Speaker 2: I'll go, I guess old enough to know I don't

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Speaker 2: need Facebook. You have instacute. You have the gram, don't you?

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Speaker 2: calendars that are available as well. What other poll questions, Seaton?

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Speaker 2: Are those all the ones you have? Todd?

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Speaker 4: There was just one other one which Marvin may not appreciate,

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Speaker 4: but we're gonna roll with it. Gino Oriema becoming the

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Speaker 4: winniest coach in NCAA history is and your choices are

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Speaker 4: as followers. Wow, absolutely incredible, pretty impressive, certainly an accomplishment.

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Speaker 4: Proof if you stick around long enough, you can compile

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Speaker 4: big stats.

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Speaker 7: What is that about?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing?

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Speaker 2: That's not cool?

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Speaker 5: Honor the guy?

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Speaker 4: But something wrote that doesn't mean I feel that you

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Speaker 4: wrote it. I wrote that, but doesn't mean I would

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Speaker 4: pick that up. You offering it to people that are

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Speaker 4: down on you, and it's basketball. They don't think that

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Speaker 4: what he did, with what he's doing is that big

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Speaker 4: a deal. That's an option. If you don't want to

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Speaker 2: I've got the Steelers favored by three and a half

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Speaker 2: against the Browns. Mike Tomlin has coached nineteen games Thursday Night.

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Speaker 2: It's a big game for them. Every game is a

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Speaker 2: Only favored by three and a half. And this is

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Speaker 3: Yes, Paul, Jamis Winston about five years ago, had one

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Speaker 2: You have the Manning name. Peyton was the first ballot

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Speaker 6: So like, if you're walking into the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 2: of Famer. Peyton certainly was the other names that I mentioned.

431
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Speaker 2: Now you might look at bart Starr's numbers and go, really, well,

432
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Speaker 2: what he did for that team, the Bay Packers. They

433
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Speaker 2: ran the ball, they played great defense, and then He

434
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 2: had good postseasons, certainly against Kansas City, you know, big

435
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Speaker 2: bad Chiefs. They were thinking they were going to take

436
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Speaker 2: down the Green Bay Packers in the first Super Bowl.

437
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 2: Then they faced the Raiders second Super Bowl. He's in,

438
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Speaker 2: but the numbers like Dan Foutce to me, is not

439
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 2: a first ballot Hall of Famer who loved the offense,

440
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 2: loved what Airic Coriel did. Dan didn't do anything in

441
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 2: the postseason. He had his moment against the Bengals in Cincinnati,

442
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,360
Speaker 2: the coldest football game ever played. They lost that game

443
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 2: or they would have gone to the Super Bowl. And

444
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 2: we've had Dan on. It's I can say, hey, I

445
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 2: like somebody, but I have to be honest about it.

446
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 2: And there it's not as it's not men as a slight.

447
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 2: You'll come off as a slight. Oh, Dan Patrick doesn't

448
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 2: think Eli's the first ballot Hall of Famer. I would

449
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Speaker 2: say it to Eli if he asked me the question,

450
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Speaker 2: but I'm not going to have him on to say,

451
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Speaker 2: you know, Eli, you're not a first batle of Hall

452
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Speaker 2: of Famer. But I'll go back to what happened when

453
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 2: I'm sitting at a dinner with Mark Jackson and Patrick

454
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 2: Ewing and John Berry and Mark Jackson said, Hey, tell Patrick,

455
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Speaker 2: who would you take a keem Eli Jawan or Patrick Ewing?

456
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 2: And I said to Patrick Ewing, I would take a

457
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Speaker 2: keem Olaijaan. I wouldn't have said that to him, but

458
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Speaker 2: Mark knows that I loved to keem Elijaha and thought

459
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: he was a better center than Patrick Ewing. But I

460
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 2: don't go out of my way. I don't want a

461
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Speaker 2: hot take on this other than let me assess this,

462
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Speaker 2: let me add some logic to this.

463
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Speaker 3: Yes, Paul, what this comes down to is the boost

464
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Speaker 3: a quarterback gets from winning a Super Bowl. But look

465
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Speaker 3: at two guys that Eli played with, oc U Menora

466
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Speaker 3: and Justin Tuck. They each made three Pro Bowls and

467
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Speaker 3: they were very good players. Those guys were high end

468
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Speaker 3: defensive ends. They each won two Super Bowls. Tuck led

469
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Speaker 3: the team in sacks, led the entire league in sex

470
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Speaker 3: in the postseason. Neither of those guys are going to

471
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Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame, and they participated and really helped

472
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Speaker 3: win two Super Bowls, and they don't get the boost

473
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Speaker 3: that Eli Manning gets.

474
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, if I look at who they're

475
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Speaker 2: compared to, all the great defensive linemen, they don't come

476
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Speaker 2: close to those guys. They were really good, really good

477
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Speaker 2: for the Giants team. But there are some great defensive linemen.

478
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Speaker 2: You have quarterbacks who have won two Super Bowls, and

479
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Speaker 2: then you throw in his last name and he beat

480
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Speaker 2: the Patriots and he plays in New York. Put it

481
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Speaker 2: all in the blender. He's probably going to be a

482
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Speaker 2: first ballot Hall of Famer. And if Todd likes to

483
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Speaker 2: tell me, you can't spell elite without E l, I

484
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Speaker 2: that's very true. Needs to be said Todd. Yes, thank you.

485
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Speaker 3: Yes, it is funny that after all that we all

486
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Speaker 3: agreed that he is not a first ballot Hall of Famer,

487
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Speaker 3: you finish with he will go in as one that

488
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Speaker 3: the other voters will do it. I wonder if that's

489
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Speaker 3: like a I think so pressure, a public pressure of

490
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Speaker 3: catering to the mannings to a touch.

491
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I wouldn't. But if he goes in, great,

492
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Speaker 2: you know fine. There have been other players who do

493
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Speaker 2: go in, or when they go in, or players who

494
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Speaker 2: don't get it. Rodney Harrison, to me, is a Hall

495
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Speaker 2: of Famer and he's been a semifinals. There's a lot

496
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Speaker 2: of players on here. I mean you can go down

497
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Speaker 2: the list and go Hall of Fame or Hall of

498
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Speaker 2: Fame or Hall of Fame. First ballot is what I'm

499
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Speaker 2: talking about. First ballot at that position is what I'm

500
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Speaker 2: talking about. Yes, Marv, does you guys keep talking about

501
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,479
Speaker 2: the Manning name. Does the Manning name hold that much

502
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Speaker 2: weight when it comes to the Hall of Fame because

503
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Speaker 2: Archie's not in? Or is it just that Peyton holds

504
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: that much weight? Yes, Peyton does. Peyton is powerful. But

505
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Speaker 2: I don't think Eli's getting in because of Peyton. I

506
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 2: do think the Manning name, though, has you know, Annie's

507
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: you know, got the Manning cat like he's there doing commercials.

508
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: He's always there. You see him. He's a fun interview

509
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: and sometimes if you're nice to the media, that can

510
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 2: play a role consciously, subconsciously, Yes, Paul.

511
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Speaker 3: It's also the storyline. If you go back and look

512
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Speaker 3: at Archie Manning, he was a second pick of the draft.

513
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Speaker 3: You remember him, Dan, he was a big college star.

514
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: If he took his hometown team New Orleans to a

515
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 3: Super Bowl victory, all his stats would be washed away

516
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 3: and he'd probably would have gotten the Hall of Fame

517
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 3: based off that alone. You know, he made two Pro Bowls.

518
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: Well, he was a great athlete. Like at that position,

519
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: Archie could run and pass. Like Archie in today's game

520
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 2: would probably be a better quarterback than Eli because his

521
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: ability to run. Archie was a great athlete. But you know,

522
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: he played for a bad team, played for New Orleans,

523
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: got banged up. First jersey I ever bought was Archie Manning.

524
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: Loved watching Archie, but it felt like every time I

525
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 2: saw him he had a cast on his arm or

526
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: you know, he's limping out there. But you know, Peyton

527
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: changed the game, revolutionized the game. You went to the

528
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage and you're actually calling out plays, changing

529
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: plays and kind of mocking the defense there you know

530
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: what they're going to run. You know that he changed

531
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Speaker 2: the game. Eli. He did what he needed to do

532
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: when he needed to do it. But if David Tyree

533
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: doesn't catch that ball with his helmet, I don't think

534
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 2: Eli's going into the Hall of Fame. I mean it's

535
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 2: that fine of a margin, yes, Mark. And also I

536
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 2: think it's Eli beating Tom Brady twice. I think that

537
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: helps too, because it's not even like, yeah, you won

538
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 2: those Super Bowls, Look who you beat. Tom Brady probably

539
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: has nine Super Bowls if Eli doesn't come up big

540
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 2: in those moments. And it's not that he had great

541
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Speaker 2: numbers as much as he had great moments, and the

542
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: defense was wonderful. I thought that one of those Super Bowls,

543
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 2: the Front four should have been the mvpick because they

544
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 2: pounded Tom Brady. Michael Strahan's been on the show and

545
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 2: he said we hit him with everything he said. I

546
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 2: had more respect for him in that moment in that

547
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: game than anything else he did because we pounded him

548
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 2: and he never complained. He got back up that defense,

549
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 2: the Front four, they were the MVPs of that Super Bowl.

550
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 7: Yes, Mark, And I think eli moment in the Super

551
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 7: Bowl that doesn't get talked about enough is maybe one

552
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 7: of the best passes I've ever seen to Mario Manahan.

553
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 7: That thing was yeah, perfect, and I think that past

554
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 7: probably doesn't get talked enough. But he's still not a

555
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 7: first BOT Hall of Famer ahead.

556
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 2: I am right on the sidelines there, so Manningham catches it.

557
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: He's four yards in front of me, and you're thinking,

558
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 2: I thought Eli was throwing the ball. I had no

559
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 2: idea where he's throwing it, and all of a sudden

560
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: he places it perfectly with Mary O Manninghan perfect, you

561
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 2: have that, you have the David Tyree catch. And then

562
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: for some reason the Patriots put a five to ten

563
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: to five to eleven. Guy on Plexico Verus and there's

564
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: your Super Bowl. A couple of phone calls in here

565
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Speaker 2: James in Virginia, Hi James, welcome back.

566
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Speaker 8: Oh thanks for taking my call. Brother, Happy Thursday, DP

567
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 8: Dan next, So luci commanders.

568
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: Man.

569
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Speaker 8: I'll tell you man, I cannot stand the Giants, Eagles

570
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 8: or Cowboys. But to me, without a doubt, Eli Manning

571
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 8: is a First Ball Hall of Famer. I don't care

572
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 8: about his regular season stats. He was always there. But

573
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 8: in the playoffs eight and four. In the playoffs, sixty

574
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 8: went to the Super Bowl, beat the greatest quarterback of

575
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Speaker 8: all time twice, the greatest team of all time in seven,

576
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 8: and Marvin hit it that passed to Mario Manningham is

577
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 8: probably one of the sweetest passions in NFL history, rivaling

578
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 8: the Ben Robinson passed to the homes in the in

579
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 8: the end zone. So to me, showing up in the

580
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 8: big moments in the big games, winning the way he did,

581
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 8: without a doubt, the biggest play in Super Bowl history.

582
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 8: Like you said to David Tyrie, and I'll push back

583
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 8: a little bit. Tom Brady isn't Tom Brady is Adam

584
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 8: Van Terry doesn't hit those ticks, so we can play

585
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 8: with him. But in the end, Man, the guy showed

586
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 8: up and made the plays. To me, he's definitely a

587
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 8: first ballot for those reasons. Man my calls, gentlemen, y'all

588
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 8: the best. Have a wonderful day. And if I don't

589
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 8: talk to you, happy thanks. Timmons, Luke the Commanders.

590
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: That is James in Virginia staying in the division. There

591
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: the nfcast to promote Eli Manning. Yeah, I know you

592
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: need a team and Brady needed Adam Vinteri. Well, is

593
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: Eli still in the game where he needs to make

594
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: that pass if that defense doesn't dominate Tom Brady. And

595
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: the answer is no. The defense kept the offense in

596
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: that game and Eli provided a couple of huge plays,

597
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: some of the biggest plays in Super Bowl history. Doug

598
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: in North Carolina, Hi, Doug, what's on your mind today?

599
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 5: Well, Dan, I have an against the grain for you.

600
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Speaker 5: This is not a hot take because there's zero percent

601
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 5: change that this will happen, but yesterday you were talking

602
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Speaker 5: about the race for MVP, and I know the MVP

603
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 5: is a positive thing, but ever, if the NFL ever

604
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 5: went to the dark side, I think the person who's

605
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 5: proven that they are far and away the most valuable

606
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 5: player in twenty twenty four, it's not just Allen or

607
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson. I think it's Christian McCaffrey. I think in

608
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 5: the preseason the forty nine ers were a big Super

609
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 5: Bowl pick. He goes down and now they're just there.

610
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 5: They're an adequate team. Tell me another non quarterback who

611
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 5: would have that impact. Christian McCaffrey is the most valuable

612
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 5: player in twenty twenty four.

613
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, Doug. That's against the grain. McLevin would

614
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: be proud of that, do we This is where we

615
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: need to hit the against the grain?

616
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 5: There we go.

617
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: McLevin will be very very appreciative of that. Yeah. See

618
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: back to back.

619
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Speaker 6: Grainy takes two with James suggesting Adam Vinieri carried Tom

620
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 6: Brady to those Super bowls.

621
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a hot take as well. Hot take. And

622
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: Adam Vinitry's a Hall of Famer. He's going in because

623
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: of those kicks. Nobody knows anything about his regular season numbers. Nothing,

624
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: don't know his percentage. Don't know anything about Adam Vinitieri,

625
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: other than he kicked for a long time and he

626
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: had some of the biggest kicks in NFL history. But

627
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: he was the best big cannon couple for years in

628
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: the league.

629
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Speaker 6: Right.

630
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: He was like the one that you knew, We knew him,

631
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: but because he kicked for the Patriots and normally they

632
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: were in big games. But I don't know points wise

633
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: or percentage wise. If he was considered the best kicker

634
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: in football. He was the clutch kicker in football, and

635
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: I think that's where he stood out. It was like, Oh,

636
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: it's gonna come down to a kick. Oh damn, they

637
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: got Vinitary. Yeah, Paul, there are three different times in

638
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: his career. He played twenty four seasons, three times first

639
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: team All Pro.

640
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Speaker 7: Okay, Marvin, and I think Vinetary needs more credit because

641
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 7: those kicks started a dynasty.

642
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: Without him. None of this even happens after the tuck rule.

643
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Speaker 2: What he did you know in the snowstorm? Yeah, when

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Speaker 2: he did it against Super Bowl against the greatest show

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Speaker 2: on turf. Yeah, and the Panthers also, yeah, those first

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Speaker 2: three you're right, Yeah, but see that got overshadow Wasn't

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Speaker 2: that the Janet Jackson Super Bowl? Is that the justin Timberlake?

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Speaker 3: I never forget?

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Speaker 2: Is that Nipplegate? Did did Adam Vinitterry get overshadowed? I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna look by that on a non wear computer. Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, let me take a break, just getting started here.

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Speaker 2: We'll come back. We got our play of the day

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Speaker 2: right after this.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, the play of the day. This is

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Speaker 2: the play of the day. Check this out, Bonna.

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Speaker 1: It's a pass on first down on the reel route.

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Speaker 1: He's got Henderson, Henderson blakes free. He say, Henderson, We'll

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Speaker 1: take it to the house.

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Speaker 10: Oh my gosh, years just like that.

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Speaker 9: That's is what that is.

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Speaker 2: That's Curtis see the mother ship. Henderson score one of

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Speaker 2: three touchdown passes of seventy five yards or more in

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Speaker 2: the game. That is your play of the day. Play

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Speaker 2: free shipping. I mentioned Jamis Winston that he can get

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Speaker 2: squirrely and do some great things, but he can also

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Speaker 2: go the other way. Got the game tonight, it's the

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Speaker 2: Browns against the Steelers. I'm trying to find the over

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Speaker 2: under for Jamis Winston passing yards. Do you have that, Pauline, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we got it updated. And to give you a little

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Speaker 2: hint to what it is, it's weather dependent. The weather's

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Speaker 2: supposed to be lawful tonight. So first guest win the

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Speaker 2: over under for Jamis and then we'll get to the weather.

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Speaker 2: Two thirty four five two sixteen and a half. Oh okay,

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Speaker 2: so the weather average, Yeah, he is usually two seventy

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Speaker 2: only two sixty and a half. That's based off the weather.

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Speaker 3: The also, the over under I think is only thirty

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Speaker 3: six and a half for the game itself. The weather

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Speaker 3: at kickoff is a combination of rain or snow ninety

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Speaker 3: percent chance of that and thirty eight degrees at kickoff.

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Speaker 2: Win Isn't this the This is the comeback game for

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Speaker 2: Nick Chubb. Did he blow his knee out against the

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Speaker 2: Steelers and now he gets to face the Steelers. Yes, Todd.

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Speaker 4: If the Steelers win like nineteen thirteen, with another four

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Speaker 4: field goals like they had five last week and a touchdown, yeah,

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Speaker 4: what is that? How does that change at all? Your

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Speaker 4: opinion of the Steelers If they squeak by the Browns

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Speaker 4: as opposed to blowing them out like a great team would.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if they're a great team. And

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Speaker 2: I think that this is weather dependent and I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be surprised if you get four more field goals or

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Speaker 2: so out of this just because of the weather. But

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Speaker 2: I it's hard to I don't think there's a great team.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the lines are pretty close to being great team.

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Speaker 2: Kansas City can be great, but I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you have a truly it's like college football. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if we have a great team, but the Lions

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Speaker 2: are pretty close to it. With Pittsburgh, I just think

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Speaker 2: that it's a Steeler team. It's a winning record, get

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Speaker 2: into the postseason. You're winning games by crooked numbers, and

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Speaker 2: that's probably what will happen tonight. Jim Harball, he was

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Speaker 2: waxing poetic yesterday, and I'm thinking Jim is on a roll,

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Speaker 2: and he had this to say about his quarterback, Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 2: to your question.

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Speaker 11: How is Justin you know, he's that's what he's been

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Speaker 11: doing his entire career. He has the most completions of

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Speaker 11: any quarterback in the history of the National Football League

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Speaker 11: in their first five seasons. He has the most fourth

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Speaker 11: quarter comebacks you know, in that in that time span

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Speaker 11: of any quarterback in the NFL. So there's it is

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Speaker 11: what it is, I mean, and enjoy it. He's he's

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Speaker 11: not only one of the best in the game currently,

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Speaker 11: he's he's one of he's one of the best of

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Speaker 11: all time.

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Speaker 2: Well, well see, he's one of the you can say,

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Speaker 2: first five years, one of the great regular season quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: of all time if you want to, so's Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: But you want to be a great postseason quarterback of

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Speaker 2: all the positions in all the sports. That's what you

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Speaker 2: want to be great at. And Jim is an overpraeiser.

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Speaker 2: I you know, it's always interesting. I appreciate that. If

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Speaker 2: he would have just said, Hey, I like my quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert's really good. He's really good comebacks, wins, he

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Speaker 2: does it all great. One of the greatest quarterbacks of

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Speaker 2: all time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Paul, I love the overpraiser, Jim Harbaugh, You're

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Speaker 3: back in your guy, without any fault, without any hesitation.

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Speaker 3: He did the same thing with J. J. McCarthy coming

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Speaker 3: out of the draft. Greatest Michigan quarterback ever. People like,

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Speaker 3: are you sure, like no doubt, that's her harbor. He

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Speaker 3: plows through, ignores the criticism.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it also sets them up where you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: one of the great quarterbacks of all time, let's see

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Speaker 2: and then he doesn't do something in the postseason. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, it's you kind of set somebody up for failure.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it is kind of funny to hear like, he's

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Speaker 6: one of the best quarterbacks of all time and all

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Speaker 6: these completions.

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Speaker 2: That's why we run the ball so much. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: why we went out and got a big offensive line

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Speaker 2: so I could get a Michigan style.

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Speaker 6: Okay, that's why we're trying to just pound it down

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Speaker 6: your throat, Jake and Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Jake, what's on your mind today, KADP.

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Speaker 9: I know you were just started about Eli, but I

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Speaker 9: wanted to take a little bit of a left turn

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Speaker 9: and was wondering about Aaron Rodgers if you think it's

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Speaker 9: at all possible that his play, the turmoil that he's

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Speaker 9: had the last two years, and probably mostly his talking

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Speaker 9: has rubbed enough of the Hall of Fame voters the

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Speaker 9: wrong way that they would keep him out that first

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Speaker 9: year just to prove a point ticket to him.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 2: No, the numbers are undeniable. You may not like. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there are a lot of players that I didn't get

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Speaker 2: along with, but I can't argue with what they did

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Speaker 2: on the football field or a baseball field. And Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers got four MVPs, got a Super Bowl? Can you

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Speaker 2: say did he underachieve? I guess if you factor in

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Speaker 2: the four MVPs, like Brett Favre, they had one Super Bowl. Okay,

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Speaker 2: but he's still a first ballot Hall of Famer. Stephanie

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Speaker 2: in Oregon, Hi, Steph, Hi, how.

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Speaker 1: You doing good?

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Speaker 10: So my question is, I know when you guys were

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Speaker 10: talking about first time ballots. I'm not questioning that. I

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Speaker 10: just was wondering what your opinion is regarding Eric Allen

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Speaker 10: not being in the Hall of Fame yet. I mean,

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Speaker 10: this guy has got the numbers. The only thing he

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Speaker 10: didn't have was a super Bowl. But god, twenty years,

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Speaker 10: the guy who's been on this scene, he still hasn't

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Speaker 10: gotten in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I go back to Rodney Harrison, who won

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Speaker 2: three Super Bowls with the Patriots, and he should be

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Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame as well. You can make

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Speaker 2: a case for so many of these guys, but I

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Speaker 2: want it to be difficult to get in. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm not the one on the outside waiting for you

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Speaker 2: somebody to knock on my door. But you want the

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Speaker 2: best in there to be able to say I got

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Speaker 2: to see that person play, or look at the numbers

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Speaker 2: of that player. Eric Allen was a great player, great player,

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Speaker 2: great guy too. But I'm thankful I don't vote on

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Speaker 2: this because it's a thankless job. You might say, hey,

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Speaker 2: I get to vote on the Football Hall of Fame. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: good luck. All you have people do is complain. Coming up,

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Speaker 2: we'll check in with the Steelers. Is this a perception game?

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Speaker 2: Even if they win? Can they lose