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Speaker 2: I listen to The Black Guy Who Tips podcast Because

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Speaker 2: Rod and Karen are.

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Speaker 3: HUT supremacists and the traumatize can be through the looking glass,

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Speaker 3: employing similar tactics for opposing reasons. The people that the

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Speaker 3: people they can't control, become cast as monsters, the humanized

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Speaker 3: specters that both the supremacists and the traumatized conclude colude

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Speaker 3: to create as manifestations of their own projected anxieties, the

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Speaker 3: anxiety of being faced with difference. This monster can be

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Speaker 3: a person with HIV, a Palestinian, or even just someone

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Speaker 3: we know, have loved, desired, or shared space with, who

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Speaker 3: has a challenging or merely different perspective and therefore becomes unbearable.

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Speaker 3: They become a dehumanized object to be destroyed because of

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Speaker 3: what they reveal about us, that there might be something

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Speaker 3: in us that needs to be adjusted. The unrecovered, traumatized

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Speaker 3: person cannot or does not negotiate because creating peace means

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Speaker 3: all three one's position and acknowledging the other person's perspective experience.

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Speaker 2: A destroyed itself feels such.

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Speaker 3: Shifting as endangering, even though it is the only road

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Speaker 3: toward repair and progressive growth. Hey, welcome to the Black

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Speaker 3: Autels podcast. I'm your host, Rod joined us always on

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Speaker 3: my co host Karen, and we're here on the late nights,

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Speaker 3: ready to do some podcasting. It's a feedback episode, y'all

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Speaker 3: on a Saturday night.

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Speaker 4: On a Saturday night, nigga Idea ask you did nothing?

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Speaker 4: I play video games, I fucked around, took an app

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Speaker 4: and yeah we ate dentilate.

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Speaker 5: Yeah this has been nice. I'm not even gonna lie

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Speaker 5: mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Karl was like you ready to do the show?

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Speaker 2: Said what show? I quit?

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Speaker 2: But she was like, oh, we gotta do a show,

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Speaker 2: like here we go do bullshit? So yes, what was

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Speaker 2: I guess we're doing the show.

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Speaker 3: I guess so, but yeah, you can you can find

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Speaker 3: us on Spotify exclusively.

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Speaker 2: There's a feedback show.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna talk about all the things that you

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Speaker 3: had to say throughout the week, the things that you

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Speaker 3: can find in the show notes, such as our email address,

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Speaker 3: our website where you can leave comments, the polls where

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Speaker 3: you can vote in them. We didn't get any voicemails

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Speaker 3: this week, but that number seven O four five five

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Speaker 3: and emails the blackoutists at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: We'll go into all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: The clip that I read before we started is from

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Speaker 3: Conflict Is Not Abuse, Overstating Harm, Community Responsibility and the

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Speaker 3: Duty of Repair by Sarah Schulman, And in this segment

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Speaker 3: she was talking about something I think it's so interesting

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Speaker 3: because we often talk about obviously.

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Speaker 2: What the supremacist is.

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Speaker 3: We all know as supremacists, demagogue people right, white supremacists

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Speaker 3: or whatever, someone who's anti Semitic, whatever, like someone. The

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Speaker 3: people who are supremacists, male supremacists, men rights, they always

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Speaker 3: for men's rights activists, women are all the evil, right,

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Speaker 3: they're all the bad that is wrong with society. Everything

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Speaker 2: And then you look at it and you go, women

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Speaker 2: Women didn't create this.

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Speaker 3: Women are navigating this system of oppression and then you

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Speaker 2: Into look what they do to us. You know, the

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Speaker 3: Racism, right, Why do black people get affirmative action now

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Speaker 3: And to onlookers, I can always make this argument of

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Speaker 3: Is that all X factors? Life is not safe? It's

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Speaker 3: How they resolve that conflict is not necessarily something you

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Speaker 2: That's an illusion. It never was safe anyway.

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Speaker 3: That's not to say we caught some dangerous space so

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Speaker 4: But people are always an X factor and you can't

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Speaker 3: I don't know all these niggas, you know, And so anyway,

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Speaker 3: you know, but that.

440
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 2: Was a person that went viral and it was for

441
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Speaker 2: she said chilling in.

442
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 3: The lobby while black, Like I was chilling in the

443
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Speaker 3: lobby of this building or eating in the cafeteria, and

444
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 3: now it was because I was black, and they targeted

445
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Speaker 3: me and they fucking you know, came after me.

446
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Speaker 2: And I'm suing.

447
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 3: You know, I want the university to sue ACL you

448
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 3: got involved, Like it was a big thing when Viral Docks,

449
00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 3: the person the workers in the cafeteria at because she

450
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 3: was like they called the police saw me. The police

451
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 3: showed up with a gun. It was this janitor that

452
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 3: did it. So it's been almost a year or whatever,

453
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,719
Speaker 3: it's been several months. The university immediately came out. It

454
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 3: was during that time where like it.

455
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 2: Was like we believe you support black people.

456
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Speaker 3: So the university immediately came out, suspended with pay some

457
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 3: of the staff because they had to do their due diligence,

458
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 3: but they were but they condemned the employees immediately, like

459
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Speaker 3: they did these harmful racist actions, and we need to

460
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Speaker 3: be in top of this and da da da right,

461
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 3: and you know, for most of us, open the shut case.

462
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Speaker 5: Right.

463
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 2: We moved on.

464
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: It's been it's January, it's February, almost in March now, well,

465
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 3: New York Times was covering it, and they went and

466
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Speaker 3: you know, continued to go look up the people do

467
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Speaker 3: more research. The university promised a full investigation. When the

468
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 3: investigation turned up a lot of inconsistencies with the story

469
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Speaker 3: of the student, such as the person she said reported

470
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Speaker 3: her wasn't working that day. Wow, right, there's no security

471
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Speaker 3: guards on campus that even have guns, So no one

472
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Speaker 3: came and pointed no guns at her.

473
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Speaker 2: The student was like, they misgendered me.

474
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Speaker 3: Well, come to find out, the employees have been instructed

475
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Speaker 3: not to approach students. And what was happening in there

476
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 3: was that there was a like high school program for

477
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Speaker 3: like kids from the community to come in and go

478
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Speaker 3: to the school for some program, and students that go

479
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Speaker 3: to the college were it was supposed to be off

480
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Speaker 3: limits for them for that period of time while the

481
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Speaker 3: students were at the program.

482
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Speaker 5: Because he's a high school kids.

483
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

484
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 3: Right, So the student basically violated protocol, went in there.

485
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 3: Someone said, hey, you're not supposed to be in here.

486
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 3: But they have been told not to approach the students.

487
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 3: And there's a class as a mango because it's the

488
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 3: people who work at university, especially cafeteriaan and janitorial staff.

489
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Speaker 3: They don't make a lot of money. You know, this

490
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Speaker 3: prestigious university, black white, whatever. You if you're in there,

491
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 3: either come for money or you got a scholarship or something.

492
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: So it was like they were afraid of students, like

493
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Speaker 3: I don't want to piss a student off because I'm

494
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 3: fucking around to lose my job, because who's the school

495
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 3: gonna back me making you know, eight twenty five or

496
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 3: this person just paying you know.

497
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: Dollars tuition.

498
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Speaker 3: So so they would have been instructed not to confront

499
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Speaker 3: the students and stuff, so they didn't. They were just like, okay,

500
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 3: you're not so me and here nope, all right, well

501
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 3: I'm gone. Uh they said, called security because they had

502
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 3: been put told like don't let strangers in here.

503
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Speaker 2: You got these kids in here.

504
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't want anything to happen to the students

505
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 4: while they're there, because then that's a lawsuit, right right.

506
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Speaker 2: So the.

507
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Speaker 3: U one of the student who was in the college

508
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 3: or whatever, like I said, they were like, they called

509
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Speaker 3: the police.

510
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: I was just sleeping. They misgendered me.

511
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Speaker 3: Well, a person didn't mean the misgender they said, a person,

512
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Speaker 3: not he. A person is like over here laying down,

513
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Speaker 3: they're not supposed to be here, blah blah blah, and uh,

514
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 3: the woman it was like they misgendered me, and it

515
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: was like, okay, they just couldn't even get close enough

516
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 3: to see.

517
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 2: That's how far they were away. They couldn't make out you.

518
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 3: Who you were because they were that like, I know,

519
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 3: not to go over there and get in no trouble, right,

520
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: So she docks the like cafeteria worker who she claimed

521
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 3: told on her. But that cafeteria worker was like, it

522
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 3: wasn't me. And of course people call the races and

523
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 3: all the harassment that comes along with that, because you know, people.

524
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Speaker 5: Nobody thinks about that part of it. I clear they don't.

525
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, people, I mean, well, it's just we always think

526
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 2: the person's right.

527
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 3: We've covered stories before we turned around and found out

528
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 3: the person was wrong. You know, it's like, oh, they

529
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 3: harassed this man. Turns out he just works at the

530
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: company that sounds like this company anyway. So yeah, at

531
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 3: the end of the day, you know, you got these

532
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 3: The point I'm making is you got this person, whether

533
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 3: they're dealing with other other erb resolve trauma in their

534
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 3: life or whatever. But they immediately said, hey, I'm weaponizing

535
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: all the tools that we use in supremacy, but for trauma.

536
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 3: Now you gotta get I want these people docs, I

537
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 3: want these people harassed, I want them fired. I want

538
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 3: the school to, you know, y'all better apologize to me.

539
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: And then the school does it because they scared the

540
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 3: shit and then you find out months later it's like

541
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: they probably shouldn't have done that. And what's even more

542
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 3: fucked up, the school is never gonna be able to

543
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 3: say we apologize to our employees.

544
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: We fucked up.

545
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 3: That's on us, Like, look, we want to be an

546
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: environment where we support people and shit, but we shouldn't

547
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: have jumped out there and start calling y'all races and

548
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 3: shit without knowing anything. They made these people take like

549
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 3: bias training and all this shit, and they were like,

550
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Speaker 3: why should I even have to take this kind of

551
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: training in response to some shit that didn't happen, you know.

552
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 3: Now that's not to say bias training is bad or

553
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 3: any of this shit, but just it was being used

554
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 3: as like a punishment almost in this situation for people

555
00:26:58,560 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 3: that didn't do the thing right.

556
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 4: Until a lot of times people wonder why when things

557
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 4: like this happen.

558
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 5: Companies they suspend.

559
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 4: With pay, and then they do an investigation because I'm

560
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 4: paying you, but let me investigate and then I will

561
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 4: come back and determine the action versus everybody wants people

562
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,719
Speaker 4: to respond immediately.

563
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 3: Which kind of happens in this case, except for as

564
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 3: you said, they want to have it both ways.

565
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: They respond immediately.

566
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 3: So the immediate response was we admonish these employees. They

567
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 3: are suspended immediately, will we are zero talance university? And

568
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,239
Speaker 3: then you find out this ship was not.

569
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Speaker 4: This didn't happen, right, because because if you would have

570
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 4: responded that way back saying we acknowledge the incident happened,

571
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 4: we're going to investigate, then we're gonna come back after

572
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 4: our investigation, hire whatever we need to do. And because

573
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 4: that way, the employees are still getting paid, so they're

574
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 4: getting they're getting paid.

575
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 3: I mean, that happened, right, But everything you're saying happened,

576
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 3: except they also put out a public statement basically saying

577
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: y'all did it.

578
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 5: Right, which is which is where they went wrong.

579
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Speaker 4: If they hadn't did this piece, they could have came

580
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 4: back and said, well, we did our investigation.

581
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 5: The student's not telling them the truth.

582
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 3: Right, But they wanted it both ways. In the age

583
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Speaker 3: of social media, people want to have their justice in

584
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 3: a very like you know, law and order, wrap it

585
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: up in forty minutes with plus commercial.

586
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 4: Right, and investigation does not happened like that. That's why

587
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 4: people ignore the people online when it comes to real investigation,

588
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 4: because it's like Bach, we can't solve this in forty

589
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 4: five minutes.

590
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

591
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 3: So, but it's just something to think about because, like

592
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 3: I said, I think everybody wants it to be real simple,

593
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 3: so we just kind of ignore this shit. But it

594
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 3: takes time to find out this kind of thing. And

595
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 3: in the meantime, these are real people as well. So

596
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,720
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Speaker 3: about your feedback on our website, The blackoutis dot com.

621
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Speaker 3: So we had episode twenty to eighty one calling my phone.

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Speaker 3: It was a back episode, no comments, but we did

623
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Speaker 3: have a pole and a poll had comments of these

624
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: three chains, which is better Pizza.

625
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: Hut, Dominoes or Papa John's.

626
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 5: I still love me some Papa John's rip, but I still.

627
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: Love Karen's going with Papa John's. Papa John comes.

628
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 3: In last pizza. Are you figured it would come in last?

629
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Speaker 2: Interesting?

630
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Speaker 5: Yeah, because a lot of people don't like them, but I.

631
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it must be everybody else's fault.

632
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 3: Pizza Hut forty eight percent, Dominoes thirty four percent, and

633
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: eighteen percent say Papa John's.

634
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: I'm with Pizza Hut on this one. Let's see. Blue

635
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: Way Rider says them.

636
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: Niggas that voted for Dominoes and Papa John's must be

637
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: lying nothing like a only oil in paying pizza from

638
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: the Hut.

639
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: The oill set it off.

640
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Speaker 5: I'm living witness that I love Papa John's.

641
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 4: Roger should know all the Papa John's he didn't want

642
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 4: over the years.

643
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: It's terrible.

644
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 3: Bluey Roder says, correction, I meant to say pan Pizza. Yeah, okay,

645
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: I got it, fake ass Donalds, Papa John's, pizza loving niggas,

646
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 3: and says I worked for Little Casars in college, so

647
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 3: I hate.

648
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: All three choices. Pizza, pizza, baby.

649
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 3: Y'all figured somebody would do that, which is why I

650
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: didn't want to leave the other. Because what happens is

651
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: either a they pick a national chain that you know,

652
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to measure my scientific pole, or they

653
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,239
Speaker 3: picked some local spot that nobody can eat unless they

654
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: live in fucking Adamsburg, Virginia, or.

655
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Speaker 2: Some shit like I like my Mama Pizza, Like, I

656
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: don't know one.

657
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 5: Can anybody get their baby?

658
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, no one's heard of that. So that's why I

659
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 3: made the choices.

660
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: What I made them.

661
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Speaker 3: Maga Power Up was episode twenty two eighty two. Let's see,

662
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: we talked about a bunch of stuff on this coronavirus news,

663
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: election news, Tessica Brown's go fund me under investigation, talib quality,

664
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: got a.

665
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: Divorce, making the Stallion photo shoot. You know, there's a

666
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: lot of stuff.

667
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: So Mdaria says, uh, hey, y'all, I won one hundred

668
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: percent agree with what McConnell tried to do with Trump.

669
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 3: And now I think Trump has the Republican Party by

670
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: the balls. They're not gonna be able to shake the

671
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: stink of him and his crew for years to come.

672
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, not until he died. They had the

673
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: SEAPO right now, man, and.

674
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, seapack right now, and that shit is I mean,

675
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: it's horrible, y'all see that with the Sea Pack. They

676
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: had a hotel dude called Young Pharaoh as at Tolkien

677
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 3: con but he was two racist and anti Semitic even

678
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 3: for them, which is shocking because they used the same

679
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: symbol of the Nazis today for their stage for they

680
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 3: it looks just like the one of the symbols the

681
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: SS war on their uniforms, and that's what the stage

682
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 3: looks like, no joke.

683
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 2: What yeah?

684
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: And instead they had to drop Young Pharaoh because he

685
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 3: had anti Semitic tweets, which I guess don't say the

686
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 3: don't say the quiet power part loud.

687
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: I want to stop reasoning there, what yeah?

688
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 4: And Jews like, hey, y'all, we keep telling y'all never forget,

689
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 4: like this ain't cool, these motherfuckers coming back out of nowhere.

690
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean what's funny is that they're the

691
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 3: party of white nationalists. They're the party of uh, the

692
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 3: alt right, They're the party of you know, the Proud Boys.

693
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 3: All these anti Semitic people, the people that stormed the capitol,

694
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 3: some of them was wearing Nazi paraphernalia. And then you

695
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 3: invite this black dude who hates Jews and go, oh no,

696
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 3: he hates Jews out loud like he be hating him

697
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 3: too good.

698
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. He has told followers that Judaism.

699
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: Is a complete lie and made up for political gain,

700
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 3: and that Jewish people are there thieving fake Jews.

701
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 2: So he's a hotel. He's a black Israel like type.

702
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 3: He responded by calling the move to remove him censorship

703
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: at its best. This is also the low bar they

704
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 3: have for black people because Sir effected.

705
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: Every year. It's like they upgrade to a new model.

706
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, we are done with Candice Owens bringing

707
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: dominance hilk.

708
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: Oh, dominance silk is gone. Let's get Jason Widlock. Oh,

709
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: Jason who is.

710
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 5: Six months to a year's a brand new model.

711
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

712
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: They lease coons, they don't even employ them four times

713
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 3: like lease, like we just rent rent a coon. Okay,

714
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 3: we just uh this coon is almost up. Okay, it's

715
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: time to trade them in and get a new one.

716
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: So young Pharaoh uh was too spicy for the pepper.

717
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 5: I'm on YouTube?

718
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 4: Can can can get a coon for three hundred and

719
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 4: nine dollars a month with one thousand dollars down rent,

720
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 4: you know, least for thirty six months.

721
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: When will these coons realize that they can can't be

722
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: like their favorite white folks?

723
00:35:58,760 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you.

724
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 3: Know, theybably don't have a problem with some of these

725
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 3: other white folks showing their faces or people in the

726
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: past that have shown their faces there and gone back

727
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: to whiteness.

728
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: You know, I was listening to.

729
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 3: What was all listening to this podcast, Conspiratuality, really good show,

730
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 3: and the last episode.

731
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: They had was on white supremacy.

732
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: It was part of it was about white supremacy and

733
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: the grifts and the grifters of it. And they talked

734
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 3: to a person from the Atlantic that did a documentary

735
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 3: called White Noise, which I'm definitely gonna watch about these

736
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: people that are like white supremacists, YouTuber influencers and shit.

737
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 2: And what was.

738
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 3: Interesting was one a couple of them married people of color,

739
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 3: had children with people of color and shit, which I

740
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 3: think tells you a lot about the grift. Like the

741
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 3: grift is so scott Like, it's so.

742
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 2: Crazy, the grift sometimes.

743
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 3: And they were white marrying people of color, the Proud

744
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 3: Boys have you know that that shit going on too,

745
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, and I mean, I have

746
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: no doubt that those black people are fucked up obviously

747
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: for even dealing with that, or these brown people are

748
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: fucked up, but still like it says something about them

749
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 3: and their perception because you would think they would be like,

750
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 3: let me just get with this white person so that

751
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: I don't have to deal with you know, like my

752
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 3: because my own followers won't turn on me.

753
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 2: Which is what happens.

754
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: But the thing I found what was interesting is like

755
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 3: two out of three people, I forget the dude that

756
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 3: used to be real big in the alt right. He

757
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: was such a big deal at the time to these

758
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: white folks. They New York Times pieces on them, and shit,

759
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 3: he just like lives with his rich ass parents.

760
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 5: Now I forgot that. Yes, I forgot the Yeah Steve

761
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 5: Spencer something Spencer.

762
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he just like lives with his parents, now

763
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And then like this white

764
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: girl who was from Canada that was, you know, also heavy,

765
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: and she just moved to Australia, married a brown man

766
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 3: and has a baby. Like they just get to move

767
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 3: on with their fucking lines. It's crazy when you think

768
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 3: about it.

769
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 5: But Richard Spencer, thank you baby.

770
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy when you think about it.

771
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, with these but yes, with my point being,

772
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 3: those kind of people can be heavily involved with white

773
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 3: politics for a period of time, even while having grievance

774
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: politics and stuff because they polished their language to code

775
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 3: switch to fit into whiteness, and they're white and made

776
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 3: a lot of money. Your black ass has a time limit.

777
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 3: All the black people eventually run out of time over there.

778
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter how hard they cooling, like Dominant still

779
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 3: didn't really do anything wrong. There's nothing that they did

780
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: today that was different than what they were doing a

781
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: couple of years ago.

782
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: Nope, white people just eventually go, yeah, you're a joke.

783
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 5: Yes, it's like the time ticks on you.

784
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 4: And I also I think that they also realize that

785
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 4: they have corny ass black people over there too, and

786
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 4: that's another reason why they have to keep rotating and

787
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 4: getting a new model.

788
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 3: Well that's the thing, right, they do this thing where

789
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: it's like, we want you over here because of your

790
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 3: credibility with the black community.

791
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: All right, so Ice Cube come on over.

792
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 3: But then the black community, because we are human and smart,

793
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 3: we go, no, fuck him. We don't like that he

794
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 3: came over there. He's not changing any of our minds.

795
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 3: We know you're bad people. Your policies are still fucked

796
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: up in racist. And then they go, God damn it,

797
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: ICEQB business doing it. Get a new nigga in here,

798
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: and that's all they are to them. So anyway, peace still,

799
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 3: Young Pharaoh or whatever. Meanwhile, I'm sure the sea pack

800
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 3: is gonna have a whole section outer in rustling Bob

801
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 3: White supremacy and folks trying to be.

802
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: Adjacent to it. Sure as a trip, Yep, you ain't

803
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: never gonna achieve it. So I don't know why ain't

804
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: even over there, and don't waste your time the poet.

805
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 3: Should Hot Sauce get compensated for his excelling his things

806
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 3: while he was in prison?

807
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: Yes? Or no?

808
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 4: You know what I'm actually I'm actually gonna go yes,

809
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 4: even though I know it's gonna be hard for him

810
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 4: to prove, you know, because a lot of that stuff

811
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 4: was in her name, and you know, ownership is you know,

812
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 4: that's a big thing in the United States. But yeah,

813
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 4: because as far as he was concerned, these were things

814
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 4: that they agreed upon prior to him leaving.

815
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 5: But the thing is, unless.

816
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 4: You can prove it and have documentations and things like that,

817
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna lose.

818
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 5: But the right thing, that would be the right thing

819
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 5: to do.

820
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do feel like Hot Sauce, just to not

821
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: be a hypocrite, I just feel like I look at

822
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 3: Hot Sauce the way I look at women that get

823
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 3: engagement rings, Like you gave this person the gift while

824
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: y'alls together, y'all broke up if they if they want

825
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 3: to have continue to have those things, and she had

826
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 3: the right to have those things.

827
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 5: I don't know if it is falling in and out

828
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 5: of Littlein't got nothing to do with that.

829
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I think that extends to, you know,

830
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 3: selling somebody's shit.

831
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 5: Y'all make an agreement.

832
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: Now the thing she signed that agreement. Now, who knows.

833
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 2: Maybe he lies and maybe it's.

834
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 5: Large too, like like if he's telling the.

835
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 2: Truth, yes, we'll see what he has in court, right.

836
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 5: Because the thing is, you have to prove that shit.

837
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 5: It can't be your word. Because as far as she

838
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 5: could say, she was like, I own it.

839
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean it didn't sound like they was

840
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 3: too good for each other. But anyway, thirty two percent

841
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 3: say yes, so we're in the minority on this. Sixty

842
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: eight percent say no, because you know, I get it this.

843
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: It's a man and it's versus a woman, and you

844
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 3: know it's the right thing to do is to say

845
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: that the woman's always right, you know. But I gotta

846
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 3: be honest with y'all because I just think of this

847
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 3: as it was reverse and it was some fucking man

848
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I sold your ship while he was

849
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 3: in prison.

850
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: Too bad.

851
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 3: Nigga just moved the fuck on, like the problem. Yeah,

852
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: I think people would definitely feel differently in our chat

853
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: and I.

854
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: Pro anyway.

855
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 3: Lakita says, I said no because she bought it, and

856
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: I'm a hypocrite.

857
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 2: What can I say? Girl?

858
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 5: Be truthful.

859
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: That's why I message to keep it real. Okay, we

860
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: need more people that's honest like you. Twenty two eighty

861
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 3: three Gorilla Glue two. We talked about a bunch of stuff.

862
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 3: He says, I only know one Bobby Schmurder song, but

863
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 3: I'm so happy he's been released. Only reason why I'm

864
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 3: invested is because I remember when you used to do

865
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 3: the countdown when he was in prison without being sentenced.

866
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: So when I heard the news, I shot at my

867
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: Nigga is free. Yeah. I got added a lot that day.

868
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 3: Everyone like for that the last two or three days,

869
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 3: like before he got released, when it was just a

870
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 3: rumor and shit, everybody.

871
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: Was like, run, what you're gonna do? How we celebrating?

872
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: And I was like, man, I don't even know what

873
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: to do, cause like it was funny but it was serious.

874
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 3: It was a hot situation, you know, and now, and

875
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: I didn't follow that that trial too closely, so you know,

876
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: I hope Bobby wasn't wasn't doing too much serious shit,

877
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: you know. I hope it was just a case of

878
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: fucking with the wrong people, you know.

879
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 2: I know that's how it seemed to me on the outside.

880
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 3: But it's easy to say that shit when it ain't

881
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 3: my family member that got killed. It ain't, you know,

882
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 3: like you know, it's easy to trivialize it, and they're like.

883
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 2: Oh, while you in trouble.

884
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 3: Like maybe you know they had a better case than

885
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: I know, because I didn't. You know, I've never seen

886
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 3: like even a documentary on it, or like even a

887
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: detailed right up, Like I'm like, we haven't seen one.

888
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: I've read stuff, but it's always kind of glossed over

889
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 3: to like they they.

890
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: Were accused of this, not he was accused of this.

891
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 3: And it was a Rico trial, so it basically with Rico,

892
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: if one person accused, everybody hues, everybody gets the same

893
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 3: penalties or whatever.

894
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I heard he took more time to reduce

895
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 4: one of his friends time too.

896
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I don't know, man, I hope, but you know,

897
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: I saw he was out at the club and turning

898
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: down alcohol. I saw that on Twitter or that video,

899
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: so I said, hopefully, man, he'll be all right.

900
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 2: Man.

901
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 3: I saw a lot of people complaining about the age

902
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 3: gap between Zandia and John Washington and was so confused

903
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 3: because she's a grown ass woman.

904
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 5: Hello.

905
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed the movie because they acted their asses off.

906
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 3: My only surprise about the movie is that there was

907
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 3: no dead body at the end, Alcou's body specifically. All Right,

908
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: hopefully it's not some type of spoiler. But yeah, I

909
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 3: haven't seen it yet. I'm probably gonna wait if I

910
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 3: see it at all, just because one that's not my

911
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 3: favorite genre, the the romantic. You know, cry a lot

912
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 3: drama movies that were about to be fighting. I don't

913
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 3: like that in my own life. Well, I watch it

914
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 3: for entertainment, but then, you know, I might watch it

915
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 3: before a award season just because I think it's probably

916
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: gonna get nominated for some things. But I don't know,

917
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 3: y'all might skip that one. And then, of course, the

918
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: Twitter conversation these days is just I don't know why,

919
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 3: it's just driving me away from things. I shouldn't let

920
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 3: it be like that.

921
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

922
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: For my own sake, I think it's just healthier to

923
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: be like, I'll wait till I don't feel any particular

924
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: way about this thing, right the poe, Do you feel

925
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 3: sorry for the new Gorilla girl hair TikToker. The answers

926
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 3: are I feel sorry for the new person but not Tessica,

927
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: I feel sorry for Tessica but not the new person,

928
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 3: I feel sorry for both of them, or I don't

929
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 3: feel sorry for either of them Karen b. B. Which

930
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 3: is I feel sorry for Tessica but not the new person,

931
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 3: all right. Thirty nine percent of people said I feel

932
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 3: sorry for Tessica but not the new person.

933
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: Right fifty four.

934
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 3: Percent, The highest percentage, said I don't feel sorry for

935
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 3: either of them, y'all cold seven herds. Seven percent said

936
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 3: I feel sorry for both of them, y'all, simps.

937
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 2: And lastly, I feel sorry for the new person, but

938
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: not Tessica. Zero nobody said that.

939
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 3: I mean it's because I'm like, if you're a second

940
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 3: person to do some dumb shit, I definitely am not.

941
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 5: Like, I don't know, can you see what happened the

942
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 5: first time?

943
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, at some point you exhausted my empathy with paying attention.

944
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: Everyone that can get some of this empathy.

945
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 3: I'm done, I'm out, tapped out, come off. T says,

946
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: either way you spend it, there's something wrong with both

947
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 3: of them. Tessica either completely laxed or can or can

948
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 3: all too easily override to her common sense. The new

949
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: people are so desperate for any online attention that they've

950
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 3: judged everything Tesca went through to be an acceptable loss

951
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 3: in exchange for that engagement.

952
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 2: That's really what it is, and that's just scary.

953
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 4: Ain't Its scary? Because money is equals compensation. I mean

954
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 4: not compensation, I mean likes and retweets and posts and

955
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 4: shit online is compensation. It don't always equal real dollars

956
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 4: and cents, but it is a form of a commodity.

957
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 5: That people are like, I would do anything to do that.

958
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 3: Will you look at everything it took for her to

959
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 3: get that ship out of her hair?

960
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 2: Who the fuck is gonna go?

961
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: Who the fuck is gonna get that lucky twice? Hey,

962
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 3: I'll do it for free and all the ship like that.

963
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 3: You're not gonna get that Lucky that. That's surgeon, Like, hey, man,

964
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 3: fuck you, why would you do that?

965
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

966
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: Like at some point it's like, yeah, I'm not I'm

967
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 3: not encouraging people to continue to do this behavior, correct,

968
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 3: but yeah, you're We watched this documentary Fake Famous on HBO.

969
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: Max.

970
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 5: Oh so you've seen it.

971
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see, Okay, and man famous currency to people,

972
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 3: as you said, yes, and the things.

973
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: People do for and then just how fleeting and.

974
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 4: Nonsensical and how hard you have to work to keep

975
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 4: it that that I don't know.

976
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 5: I guess. I guess we could talk about it now.

977
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: I was gonna, yeah, we could talk about but I

978
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 3: was gonna say, it's not even just to me how

979
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: hard you work to keep it, which is definitely a

980
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 3: big part of it. But what I'm saying is the

981
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 3: idea of having it as this, like this.

982
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: Is what life is about.

983
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 3: That to me, it becomes illustrated in moments like this

984
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 3: where someone knows this is dumb, but they look at

985
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: how viral tesica went and they can't help.

986
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 2: But be I gotta do it too. I gotta find

987
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 2: a way to get some of this viral shit sad

988
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: really m M. Yeah, we can review it as a

989
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: Mover review if you want.

990
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 3: To, Okay, yes, please sayla Agney says haven't seen fake famous.

991
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 3: Oh hey, Selene, These people, whether they intend to or

992
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 3: not do for social media is reassuring why I'll never

993
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 3: sell my soul or integrity for fame. Putting glue on

994
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 3: your hair that's only for building or fixing should never

995
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: be put on your hair.

996
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: Now.

997
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 3: I will say this in regards to Testica. She seems

998
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 3: like a genuine person who made a dumb mistake. Shit

999
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 3: seemingly got out of control when people started projecting their

1000
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 3: ire after she got money to remove the gorilla glue

1001
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 3: from her hair, I'm very glad things worked out for

1002
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 3: her getting that stuff out. Now, this other person doing

1003
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 3: it simply did it for attention, unlike Tessica, who seemed

1004
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 3: like she genuinely was needed some help.

1005
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: However, I did mute her name so I.

1006
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 3: Didn't have to witness any other stories related to on

1007
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 3: gorilla glue mishats she's dumb and dangerous. Yeah, well, I

1008
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 3: just read a new article about where she went to

1009
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 3: get a breast job a boo job, because I mean, look,

1010
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: the end of the day, she's still a TikTok person

1011
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 3: and she may be trying to blow up from this.

1012
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 3: I say that with no judgment I I'm not the

1013
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 3: only reason I kind of feel a little exasperate it

1014
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 3: is because I know other people are gonna think of

1015
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 3: that as a negative thing.

1016
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: But look, most.

1017
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 3: People on social media that are putting content out want

1018
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 3: to blow up.

1019
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 5: So that's the purpose.

1020
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 3: As stupid as the shit was, this might be her

1021
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 3: chance to like make something of it. So she's got

1022
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 3: an agent, she's you know, trying to to take what

1023
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 3: to do something now, who knows what else.

1024
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: She's pitching reality shows or whatever.

1025
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 3: So she's trying to do something with these newfound opportunities.

1026
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 3: And one of the things she did was looking to

1027
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 3: get in a boob job, and they found some lumps

1028
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 3: in her breast and remove them and they're gonna test

1029
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 3: them to see if they're cancers and all this stuff.

1030
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: And I actually saw people like mad, like she trying

1031
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: to get her.

1032
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 3: Teddies downe Like, I mean, aren't isn't it good that

1033
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 3: they might have found cancers?

1034
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: Right?

1035
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 3: Like, isn't it good that she might you know, like

1036
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 3: this might have saved her life or like her getting

1037
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: Also he is jealousy, yeah, but what like but what

1038
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 3: are you jealous of the fear and anticipation of somebody

1039
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 3: testing lumps in your breast.

1040
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 2: That's not no fucking thing to be jealous of.

1041
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 4: Like, it's attention. You're getting attention, and I think I deserve.

1042
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 2: It's gotten so out of hand it doesn't make sense.

1043
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 3: But you still see people mad, you know, and then

1044
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 3: people go, how do they know all this about her?

1045
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, it says in an article. Her publicist

1046
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 3: reached out to TMZ because.

1047
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you gotta keep you gotta, you gotta

1048
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 2: keep on top of it. Yeah. Episode twenty two, Like

1049
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: I said, I'm not doctor her.

1050
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 3: I get that people are like, she's chasing fame, but

1051
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 3: I just like, yeah, I think that's a given. But

1052
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 3: that doesn't necessarily make me hate somebody for chasing fame

1053
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,439
Speaker 3: unless they're.

1054
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 2: Doing something to harm other people. I'm right.

1055
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: Episode twenty twenty four coked out Black History while man

1056
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 3: Brandon Collins of Medium Popcorn and Drunk Black History.

1057
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: I attended Drunk Black History last night. Karen was there.

1058
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 3: It was so fun. They always put on a great show.

1059
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 3: I told you all was buying a ticket.

1060
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 2: It was lovely. You know, everyone was funny, Yes, everyone,

1061
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: you know, people were still in the show. Jordan Temple

1062
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 2: specifically stole the show with.

1063
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 3: His hilarious Malachai Love Robinson as his one. He's just

1064
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 3: he was so hilarious and off the book. And uh,

1065
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 3: but everyone was good Randolph.

1066
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 2: Terrace, Abby crutch Field, Randolph. Yeah, yeah it was. Everyone

1067
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 2: was good.

1068
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 3: The drinking at your own house and you just go

1069
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 3: get into bed at the safe way to experience it.

1070
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 3: So definitely love those guys. All right, let's get the comments.

1071
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 3: Rtie Miller says, Hey, Roddy Karrien is curious. Is there

1072
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 3: a way to see the show notes on Spotify. I'm

1073
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 3: still trying to navigate on Spotify and haven't found how

1074
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 3: to get to the.

1075
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 2: Show notes there. They didn't have.

1076
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a description of the episode. If you

1077
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 3: go on Spotify, you you know, you click on the podcast.

1078
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 2: And you go to the show. I mean, just touch

1079
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: the touch the specific episode that.

1080
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 3: You want to see, and it'll take you to the

1081
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 3: page and then it says see more on the right

1082
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 3: hand side.

1083
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm on my phone right now.

1084
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 5: Showed them the chat up.

1085
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and the.

1086
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 3: Links work like if you touch it, it'll take you

1087
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 3: to like I touched, it took me the Twitter.

1088
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 2: Roderman's prime so they're right there on the app.

1089
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 3: Now, maybe it's different for different phone manufacturers. We do

1090
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 3: have iPhones, but I would imagine it's the same for everybody.

1091
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 3: Shit Android probably being had it according to mister span

1092
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 3: So no, according to him, had Yeah.

1093
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 2: So like I don't, I don't know.

1094
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 3: I hope it's working for you, even he says, Meghan

1095
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 3: McCain is not even a mediocre white woman. She'd be

1096
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 3: a cash at Piggy Wiggily if she wasn't born into

1097
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 3: a rich family. How she had the white ass audacity

1098
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 3: to fix something out to say she didn't know when

1099
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 3: she was getting the vaccine because she's a host of

1100
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 3: the View with her husband, owns the Federalists, and pushes

1101
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 3: anti mass propaganda. It's just vomit inducing. I hope she

1102
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 3: gets a huge hemorrhoid that never goes away.

1103
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: Oh no, I wish she would.

1104
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 3: I wish she would use gorilla glue in one of

1105
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 3: her black hair appropriating styles she did for Black History.

1106
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: Mom did y'all say that? Who's over her.

1107
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 3: Hair stuffs she had for Black History? Oh my god, Megan,

1108
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 3: I know when I'm being trolled.

1109
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: I know what I'm being droid.

1110
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 3: Her her her hairstyles was hmm, they ain't feel right.

1111
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody else in the.

1112
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 2: Chat noticed this.

1113
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 3: That ship did not uh, that ship did not feel right.

1114
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: I've seen like a little collection of her.

1115
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 5: I guess it's not really her attention.

1116
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I seen.

1117
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 3: I've seen a little collection of people talking about her

1118
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: these hair extensions and the way she's been doing her

1119
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 3: hair this week.

1120
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, you got a goddamn point.

1121
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 5: What is going on with her?

1122
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 3: Megan out here out here just acting the food. So yeah,

1123
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 3: she was like it wasn't all kinds of updudes and

1124
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 3: ship and extensions.

1125
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: She had extensions and all kinds of ship. Yeah. I

1126
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: can't even find it right now. I was looking for.

1127
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 3: On Twitter or whatever, but yeah, like I saw. I

1128
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 3: just remember seeing it on Twitter where people was like, yeah,

1129
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 3: this nigga's hair is a microaggression the poe, Which would

1130
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 3: you prefer weed black history, drunk black history, coke black history,

1131
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 3: heroin black history, molly black history, other drug black history,

1132
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 3: or meth black history.

1133
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 5: Care Let's keep it the drunk. Karen's sticking with drunk, Yeah,

1134
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 5: because some of the some of that, some of that

1135
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 5: other stuff I'm good.

1136
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 3: Karen, you can be a functioning Heroin person. Okay, just

1137
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 3: a little dad by the fireplace to do you.

1138
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 5: I'm good on that.

1139
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: Okay, that professor does it.

1140
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 5: I'm still good on that.

1141
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

1142
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 3: Well weed black history. Forty two percent said weed black history.

1143
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 5: I can see that.

1144
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1145
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 3: Thirty eight percent said drunk black history, seven percent cent

1146
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 3: coke black history. So Brandon, you might if you're listening,

1147
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 3: heroin black history four percent. Now, I feel like this

1148
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 3: is gonna be a lot of apps. No people just

1149
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 3: not knov in the middle of the story. And then

1150
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 3: it's it mally black history, and then other drug black history,

1151
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 3: and lastly meth black history, which got zero percent. So

1152
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 3: seven percent for four percent for heroin, four percent for mally,

1153
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 3: four percent for other drugs, zero percent for myth.

1154
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 2: Niggas don't fuck with mel apparently not.

1155
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 5: No niggas don't fuck with me? Can't you tell?

1156
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 4: Because all of a sudden they care about myth and

1157
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 4: methods on the postal boards everywhere.

1158
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 3: Al Slim says Weed black history would definitely take longer

1159
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 3: than a month, so let's have some.

1160
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 2: Mimi says, I voted for heroin because.

1161
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 3: I had to represent for all the honis and grummy

1162
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 3: grandma's who say heron?

1163
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: Is that what you tell yourself? MEMI, that's why you

1164
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: voted for anything you want to tell the class?

1165
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 3: Classic R and B Lover says, I was going to

1166
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 3: vote for weed black history, but I have no idea

1167
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 3: where where the bowieed?

1168
00:56:58,840 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 2: I know where about live?

1169
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 3: So I voted to drunk Black History so I can

1170
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 3: participate if I choose to.

1171
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 4: Al Right, I know what an ABC Stow is or

1172
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 4: you South Carolin, I know where the red dots Stowe is.

1173
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 3: M Dog says, in honor of our heroin smoker educated

1174
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 3: college professor Black King, he needs we need some heroin

1175
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 3: black history.

1176
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is his class like? You know? I'm like,

1177
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: is this class.

1178
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 4: Like?

1179
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, turn your ages? Oh no, I'm sorry, hold on,

1180
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 2: hold on, I got this. What y'all look at me

1181
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: like that? Thank you? All right?

1182
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 3: The last episode was with Brian McGinnis of the Playable

1183
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 3: Characters podcast. Eve says, Playable Characters is a funny podcast.

1184
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 3: I don't know if they have done this episode because

1185
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 3: I catch it when I can, but if they did.

1186
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 3: An interview with the Hookers from Grand theft Au though

1187
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 3: that episode would be epic or the dogs from Last

1188
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 3: of Us too too soon?

1189
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you real some really dark playable.

1190
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 3: Characters, no, how long, some really some pretty uh pretty

1191
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 3: dark stuff there.

1192
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 2: How do you play your video games?

1193
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 3: Is the poll lower difficulty, increase difficulty, default difficulty, or

1194
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 3: I don't play video.

1195
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 5: Games care Oh you know, I play it on the

1196
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 5: low low whatever, whatever.

1197
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 3: The easiest mode is now that you go into every

1198
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 3: single game and lower it immediately.

1199
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, if.

1200
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 5: It's an option. Sometimes it's not an option, but I

1201
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 5: don't go up.

1202
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: You know a lot of times I know you don't

1203
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 2: go up. But I'm just wondering if it was a

1204
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 2: thing that you do every single.

1205
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 4: Game, if I remember I try my best to or

1206
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 4: either sometimes if I go in and I play it

1207
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 4: and I'd be like this too hard, then I'd be like, oh,

1208
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 4: I didn't change it. But I normally try my best

1209
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 4: to go in and just automatically lower it.

1210
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: So on Fable, you turned it down to the lowest setting.

1211
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So yes, let's go to a default difficulty,

1212
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 3: for which is I'm prety much default. Every once in

1213
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 3: a while I'll turn a game down. I've never I

1214
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 3: never tie to turn games up. I don't even get

1215
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 3: that shit. I think that's stupid, like like.

1216
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 2: Just because that's not how I enjoy my game.

1217
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,959
Speaker 3: Like I don't get this, like and now it's worth

1218
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 3: sixty dollars because it's hard. Like I'm like, nah this,

1219
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 3: I do. I want a good time. But yet so

1220
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 3: the default difficulty forty two percent. Every once in a

1221
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 3: while game is super hard, and I'll be like, all right,

1222
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 3: I'll turn it down. Uh, I don't play video games

1223
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 3: forty two percent as well, forty two percent of our

1224
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 3: artist doesn't even fuck with them games, so they must

1225
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 3: have hated this episode. Nine percent say, increased difficulty you know,

1226
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 3: the don riveras of the world, and of course lower

1227
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 3: difficulty seven percent Karen in.

1228
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 4: Like I said, a lot of times you go in

1229
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 4: the default is normally the lowest, and a lot of

1230
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 4: games so I'll just play that, Na, the default normally

1231
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 4: is not the lowest, Okay, the default is the def thought.

1232
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, So if you play a game and you like.

1233
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 3: Because yeah, no, pretty much, they always want the game

1234
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 3: to be in the middle, so that if you're having

1235
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 3: a difficult time, you can go turn it down. Okay,

1236
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 3: if you already were playing on the lowest. Then everybody

1237
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 3: would just be like, I'm gonna.

1238
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 4: Keep it here, right, Because sometimes I go in and

1239
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 4: it's not an option, you'd be like, okay, so that one.

1240
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 3: Games don't have it as an option. I'm sure like

1241
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 3: Farmville or some shit does.

1242
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 5: Right.

1243
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: There's no easy mode, yeah, in the whole mode is easy.

1244
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 3: Sam la Agney says with loneing sessions, I do welcome

1245
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,479
Speaker 3: playing games on the normal difficulty if I feel ready

1246
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 3: to go into a new game or an increased challenge. Lately,

1247
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 3: for instance, I play games like The Messenger and Cybershadow

1248
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 3: via Xbox Game Pass to put it lightly, those games

1249
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 3: are a problem, and they remind me of Side Scroll

1250
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 3: and games that weren't.

1251
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 2: As linient with limited continues. I do like hard games, however,

1252
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 2: I hate hard games that.

1253
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 3: Try too hard to be hard. That makes the experience unpleasant. Yeah, yeah,

1254
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 3: I'm that That's exactly how I feel like. If the

1255
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 3: purpose of your game is difficulty, then I don't really

1256
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:10,479
Speaker 3: fuck with it. Like I played Alien Resurrection or something

1257
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 3: Alien or something the other day.

1258
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 2: Isolation.

1259
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 3: You just kept that and it's just hard for the

1260
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 3: purpose of being hard, And when you look up like

1261
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 3: different things about It's always like, yeah, it's supposed to

1262
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 3: be super hard. Now if you turn it down, it's

1263
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 3: still gonna be hard, but it'll be a little bit

1264
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 3: less hard.

1265
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck this game.

1266
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 3: The whole point is to be hard, make a good game,

1267
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 3: make a good game. This is like, you know, it's

1268
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 3: like faking being good at basketball, you know what I mean.

1269
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 3: It's like I'm not good at defense, but I failure

1270
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 3: every time. It's like, well, then you're not really playing

1271
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 3: good DP.

1272
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 5: No, you're not.

1273
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 3: Like I get that it's effective in a pickup game,

1274
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 3: but you know, like this doesn't make you like a

1275
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 3: good player.

1276
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 2: You just follow a lot, right, And.

1277
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 4: Like I said, I don't know, maybe maybe it's just

1278
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 4: me mentally, but I'm like, I don't play video games

1279
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 4: for difficulty.

1280
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 5: You know everyo I play video games for different reasons.

1281
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 4: But I'm like, I don't want to play just because

1282
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 4: I don't want it to be difficult for the sake

1283
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 4: of being difficult.

1284
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, And like I said, as long as it yeah, yeah,

1285
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 3: same thing.

1286
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 2: There's a reason why I'll never play two D MEGAMN

1287
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 2: games because they're needlessly hard with little forgiveness. All them

1288
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 2: Damn one Hit Kills Fikes in Tough Platform and the

1289
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: aforementioned Cyber Shadow, for instance. I don't plan on owning

1290
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 2: because it's stupid hard.

1291
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 3: Once I beat the game, shit's getting out out of

1292
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:27,439
Speaker 3: my Xbox One Eternal Drive so fast I'll never think

1293
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 3: of it again.

1294
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 4: Come on, I used to love that as a kid,

1295
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 4: but I had time to maraza jumps, maraze the stuff.

1296
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 5: But I'm like, I don't have time for that no more.

1297
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 2: You know.

1298
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 3: The other thing that I think people don't realize too

1299
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 3: with these new games, because some people haven't haven't gamed

1300
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 3: in a long time. A lot of times, the hardness.

1301
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 3: They're monetizing shit now. So it's like, yeah, we're gonna

1302
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 3: make it hard in this like version of NBA two

1303
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 3: K twenty one where you play as like like almost

1304
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 3: like an RPG where you play as a creative player,

1305
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 3: bring them in to the league, blah blah. But you

1306
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 3: can buy the shoes, you can buy this upgrade to

1307
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 3: help your jump shot, you can buy and so a

1308
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 3: lot of shit is the monetizing it, but masquerading it's like,

1309
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 3: oh no, it's just a hard game. It's like it's

1310
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 3: not hard you're trying to make me pay for to

1311
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 3: skip some shortcuts and shit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and to an extent, I understand that sometimes those

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Speaker 4: need to be an option because somebody go, well, I

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Speaker 4: don't have one hundred dollars through grind in this game.

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Speaker 4: Here is you know, whatever dollars, so I can enjoy

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Speaker 4: the video game just as much as everybody else.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's just so interesting though, because it'll be

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Speaker 3: like you know, like you said, it'll be shited like

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 2: But then you turn around and oh, you want to

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Speaker 2: sword that cut?

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Speaker 5: People.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we didn't realize you was gonna want to

1324
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Speaker 3: sword that work. Yep, that gonta give us twenty dollars.

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Speaker 3: We'll hook you up with a sword.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: Now that's completely different. Now, there is a difference between

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Speaker 4: that put like this. I hate video games that are

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Speaker 4: like you actually need this to progress in the game

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01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 4: type of thing, like for that shit, I'm like, no,

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Speaker 4: don't charge me for that shit. You know, let me

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Speaker 4: play and then you know, get it like I'm normally

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01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 4: supposed to get it. Now, if I want to skip

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Speaker 4: those steps and you want to charge me, that's fine,

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01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 4: but don't make it difficult where if I choose to

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Speaker 4: play the game straight, it takes me forever to get

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01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 4: the shit like. That's when I have a problem with that.

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01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 4: Oh you're scamming me versus somebody who go, well, I

1339
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 4: don't want to invest the time, I'll just pay for it.

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Speaker 4: So I don't mind those people paying for it, because

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01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 4: that's they money. But also, like I said, don't punish

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Speaker 4: me for actually playing the game like it was purposely

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01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 4: designed to be played.

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Speaker 3: Let's get to these emails blackouts at gmail dot com.

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01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 3: A Lisha Wright saying, my Testica brown hair moment. Can

1346
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 3: I share my Testica brown hair moment with y'all? It

1347
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,479
Speaker 3: was back in the nineties when my auntie was still

1348
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 3: living in the projects, and yes she had roaches. She

1349
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 3: had a mirror sitting on something at the bottom of

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Speaker 3: the stairs.

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Speaker 2: My mama was checking herself out in that mirror.

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01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 3: Her hair was freshly done, had fingerways up into a

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01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 3: tuck French and she come on. She picked up what

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01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 3: she thought was some oil she and that liberally sprayed

1355
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 3: her hair until someone pointed out it was actually roach spray.

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Speaker 3: Oh she laughed about that for years. Not we laughed

1357
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 3: about that for years. Not as bad as Tessica, Thank God,

1358
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 3: but still funny.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy y'all time off.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is from Celeste.

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01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 2: It's always Groundhog's Day for racism.

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Speaker 3: High rody Karen so As on catching up this past

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Speaker 3: week's podcast is always I appreciate all.

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Speaker 2: Of the segments.

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Speaker 3: So with coronavirus news, I wanted to write in about

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Speaker 3: the Black Doctors Consortium in Philly and the recent twenty

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Speaker 3: four hour vaccine clinics. So I am from Philly and

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Speaker 3: I am a proud Temple alumni. I saw you retweet

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Speaker 3: the video on Monday showing the line this past Friday

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Speaker 3: and Saturday. It's hard to describe, but the Liah Chorus

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Speaker 3: Center is the sporting arena for Temple, with which is

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Speaker 3: literally occupies an entire city block.

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Speaker 2: Is huge.

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Speaker 3: I drove out to see if I could get a

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Speaker 3: family member of the vaccine, thinking well, if it wasn't

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Speaker 3: too bad, if they came back at two am, they may.

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Speaker 2: Be able to get a shot. It was excuse me,

1378
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 2: it was crazy how many people showed up.

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Speaker 3: The line went around several times and it looks like

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Speaker 3: they did even have several hundred people inside at the

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Speaker 3: town So that was a node to getting getting in there.

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01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 3: It confirms to me what I've been thinking. There's a

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Speaker 3: smaller contingent of vaccine.

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Speaker 2: Has been black people.

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Speaker 3: There's a huge unmet need, which has to do with

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Speaker 3: supply and access to the folks who do want the vaccine.

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Speaker 3: I think this encourages provider bias too. We won't offer

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Speaker 3: it because all these people are saying black people don't

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Speaker 3: want it.

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Speaker 2: Let me just hook my white patients up. Part of this.

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Speaker 3: Feels like similar to propaganda that is used by many

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01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 3: to absolve responsibility and perpetuate an inequitable status quo. Generally speaking,

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01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 3: PA has not done well with vaccine supply unless you

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01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 3: work in a hospital a neighbor. County, which has pockets

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01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 3: of low income but it's generally well resourced, used used

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01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 3: to be red, but has been trending blue in pockets

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01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 3: and went blue the last few elections. Montgomery County has

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01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 3: over one hundred and forty three thousand people on their

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01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 3: one A waiting list. Montco is very majority white, so

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Speaker 3: you know, if there's.

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01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: So you know, there's a still messed up.

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01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 3: Boit, So you know, if I don't know if that

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01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 3: was if she's saying there is or isn't. But the

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01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 3: Black Doctors Consortium has gotten a lot of support from

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01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 3: the local Black church to keep operating, first through testing

1406
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 3: and now with vaccines.

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01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 2: It is frustrating but not surprising.

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01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 3: They have gotten only minimal support from the city when

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01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 3: the white group Philly Fighting COVID got a lot. A

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01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 3: white organization run by college students, which I'm sure has

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Speaker 3: a family member in some city positions somewhere, because that's

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Speaker 3: how it goes here, basically did a little and took

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01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 3: off with the vaccine and the money. I did hear

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01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 3: word on the street is that the head of the

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Speaker 3: organization had.

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Speaker 2: To lead because people were looking for him. That also

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Speaker 2: is very Philly and sounds true to me. L.

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Speaker 3: My next thing is how some people are coming back

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01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 3: with their four year hiatus of protesting during the forty

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01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 3: five era as well, rested and ready to go now

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01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 3: that the Biden Harris administration is here, Like you did

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01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 3: not keep the same energy called Cough Cornell, West Tavis,

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01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 3: some other academics and protesters. In any case, I also

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Speaker 3: wanted to try, well, yeah, first of all, to your

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01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 3: stuff about the coronavirus stuff. That's interesting, and thank you

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Speaker 3: for that. Perspective from Philly, you know, since we're not there.

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Speaker 2: But I've been thinking that too.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot less resistance to getting the

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Speaker 3: vaccine that people think because most of that shit is

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01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 3: online polls and we don't have the numbers to put

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Speaker 3: this to the.

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Speaker 2: Test, right.

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Speaker 4: No, I think you're going to have a percentage of

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01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 4: people that's going to be like no, but that's going

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01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 4: to be always a lot of people don't need to

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01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 4: take the other vaccines.

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Speaker 5: But I think most.

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01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 4: People, actually, majority of the people you speak to, actually

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01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 4: won't be shots.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see when we have the numbers to test

1441
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 2: that theory. We don't have it right now. So my

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01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 2: next thing and wait and yeah, the people coming back after.

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01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 5: Four years, I see them too, Colon.

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01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 3: In any case, I also want to chime in about

1445
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 3: how frustrating it is to see even some well I

1446
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 3: meaning people that I think are smart in some areas

1447
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 3: have total blind spot to how often they are encouraged

1448
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 3: to participate in a depressed hobmine as you call it

1449
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 3: on Twitter, like bad faith for Everybody and Harris Democrat move.

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01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 2: It's both exhausted and infuriating.

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01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I have honestly just had to lower the

1452
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 3: amount of consumption that I have on social media for

1453
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,719
Speaker 3: this type of stuff because I don't think the takes

1454
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 3: are smart. I find a lot of the stuff to

1455
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,759
Speaker 3: be redundant and repetitive, very.

1456
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 2: Low and very low experience based.

1457
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 3: Commentary, a lot of outside looking in. I've never done

1458
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 3: this job. I don't need to know how this works

1459
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 3: type of commentary. You really and you really were at

1460
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 3: least me. I was kind of hoping like some of

1461
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 3: that would die down a bit, because, hey, y'all have

1462
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 3: been wrong about everything.

1463
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 2: You've been wrong for the last year or so.

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01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 3: At least when it came to Boden the primaries, Trump,

1465
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 3: Black vote everything, you were wrong about everything, you know,

1466
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:23,719
Speaker 3: we had the most turnout ever.

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01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 2: It was a pandemic. We still won. Trump did leave office,

1468
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 2: he did, he didn't stay.

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01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 3: And now we're at this point where that depressed homad

1470
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 3: shit is them just taking stuff that we knew was

1471
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 3: gonna happen and turning it into like, look what the

1472
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 3: Democrats did, but the stuff we all knew had to happen,

1473
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 3: Like yes, they're gonna impeach. No, they won't be able

1474
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 3: to win it, right, See, the Democrats, let us down.

1475
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 2: Okay, you know there's the.

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01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 3: Fifteen dolarmentium wage didn't get put into the bill for

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01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 3: the House because I believe it was like either the

1478
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 3: budgeting or.

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01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 2: Something one of the one of the one of the

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Speaker 2: like and not advisory.

1481
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 3: Administrative panels is like, you can't, we're not gonna allow

1482
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 3: you to put it in. So they can't put it in, literally,

1483
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 3: but they still send everything else up there that they promise, right,

1484
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 3: and it's already like see they just gonna sell you out.

1485
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 3: I told you, And it's like, oh, this is gonna

1486
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 3: be the new thing.

1487
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,440
Speaker 5: Yes it is. You know it's gonna stay depressed.

1488
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like every time they try to make so

1489
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 3: because these are difficult high wire, very easy to to to,

1490
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 3: like these are like anything goes wrong and these things

1491
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 3: won't pass.

1492
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 2: We didn't win with some super majority.

1493
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 3: We got fifty one votes if everyone's on the same page, right,

1494
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,879
Speaker 3: So you know we knew this was gonna be very difficult.

1495
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 3: And you still have people being like, well, it's easy,

1496
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 3: just get rid of the fell of us, just like.

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01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 2: Well, is manchin't gonna do that? Because that's what we're

1498
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 2: gonna need or you're gonna need some Republicans the crossover,

1499
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 2: and they're not doing it. You know.

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Speaker 3: They passed that bill in the House for a COVID

1501
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 3: relief zero Republicans voted for it.

1502
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 2: Zero. Like, this is the this is the obstacle we

1503
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 2: are up against.

1504
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 3: Now.

1505
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 2: If you can't recognize that, to me, you're letting Republicans

1506
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,759
Speaker 2: off the hook, You're letting you're letting our media off.

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01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 5: They don't care about the populace.

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01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, just every time you frame something as like

1509
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 3: I said, it's like watching a basketball.

1510
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 2: Game and a guy elbows me in the mouth.

1511
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 3: I push him down and then you go, wow, can

1512
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 3: y'all just stop with the fighting? And I'm like, he

1513
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 3: elbowed me my fucking mouth, and it's like yeah, but

1514
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 3: I mean, this is what's wrong. It's too much fighting,

1515
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 3: you guys. You know, And that's kind of how people

1516
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 3: are treating this shit where it's like, really, Democrats, that's

1517
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 3: that's what you're gonna do.

1518
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 2: It's like we're in a fight. They're not helping us,

1519
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 2: so I can only do what I can do anyway. Like,

1520
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 2: on the one hand, it's all power to the people liberation.

1521
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 2: The black people are having these bad.

1522
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 3: Bold dreams of the utopian future which somehow always has

1523
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 3: to evolve no capitalism.

1524
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 2: But whatever. Yeah, that's another thing too.

1525
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 3: I just tune out all the socialists black people at

1526
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 3: this point because it's like they make it happen.

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01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you. I don't think

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01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:23,799
Speaker 2: it's gonna happen.

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01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 3: But luckily you don't need my help, so let me

1530
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 3: know when you get there, and well, you know, I'll

1531
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 3: hop right on board with you.

1532
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 2: But it's not happening in this country. I don't see

1533
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 2: it happening.

1534
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 3: It's one of those things where it's pie and the

1535
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 3: sky is easy to argue, yes, and it's a great

1536
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 3: way to win, like a rhetorical point on social media,

1537
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 3: but if in real world application is not happening. And

1538
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 3: mostly you know, as I've reiterated on the show, it

1539
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 3: ain't happening with these white people. So the same white

1540
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 3: people responsible for entrenching power in capitalism are just gonna

1541
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 3: be persuaded by the merits of your art meant to

1542
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 3: what be socialists. And once we get to socialism, they

1543
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 3: not bringing none of the racial shit over with them.

1544
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 2: They like, racism is done. We won.

1545
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 3: It was just capitalism and the way this system is

1546
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:13,919
Speaker 3: set up that made us be racist.

1547
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 2: I don't think so. So you know, we'll see, but

1548
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 2: that's my personal belief. I get it.

1549
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 3: It's fine, even necessary, something to see and imagine the

1550
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 3: world in a way that's unthinkable to what we see

1551
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,719
Speaker 3: right now. I just get so frustrated because he said

1552
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 3: people seem to reject nuanced, slow progress, compromise and necessary

1553
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 3: hard work that people have to put it in too

1554
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 3: achieve these changes, Like why do they ultimately get to

1555
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 3: the side.

1556
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 2: What is freedom for me? Why do I have to

1557
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 2: operate under the scheme, the schema schema to be validated. Yeah,

1558
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 2: that's what it is. You know.

1559
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 3: It's like people restorative justice, and you think everybody believe

1560
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 3: in that or is it some small contingent of y'all

1561
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 3: that believe in that on social media and y'all have

1562
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 3: been able to only talk to each other for the

1563
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 3: most part, and everyone disagrees with you, right.

1564
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 5: Like everybody else is doing for that understanding.

1565
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 3: So it don't feel like to you that there's three

1566
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 3: percent of our population that believes in that.

1567
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,799
Speaker 2: It feels like it's like seventy five percent.

1568
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 3: Our population that believes in that, and we all easily

1569
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 3: want to just you know, defund the police and fix everything.

1570
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah that I don't know that everybody's as

1571
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 3: hard as you think, Like whether it be an online

1572
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 3: pole or in person or whatever. I don't think everyone

1573
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 3: feels that way, or not even a majority of people

1574
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 3: feel that way.

1575
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 2: But like I said, that took a lot of work

1576
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 2: for me to be able.

1577
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 3: To say, like, oh no, this is some internet shit.

1578
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 3: These things be talking, yes, sir. Anyway, happy end of

1579
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,759
Speaker 3: the Black history Manontha and thanks, well it's never happy

1580
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 3: to end it, but yeah, and thanks for.

1581
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 2: Everything you both do.

1582
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 5: Caaren.

1583
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 3: Sometimes when someone that works as something crazy here you

1584
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 3: say what in my head?

1585
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 2: Adrian right saying high ride and Careen.

1586
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 3: A couple of months ago, I wrote in gushing over

1587
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 3: the docu performance film about La under Ground hip hop

1588
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 3: made by the artists themselves that had just been released

1589
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 3: on a black owned pay per view network.

1590
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 2: The film is called.

1591
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 3: Project Blowed twenty six and network is called flee Lead TV.

1592
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 3: You can you can find this docu performance film on

1593
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 3: the virtual events tab at fleeletv dot com. I had

1594
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 3: explained how Aver Deverney had been a MC and the

1595
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,839
Speaker 3: La Underground hip hop scene and had made her first

1596
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 3: film about it.

1597
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 2: It turns out that averas film called This.

1598
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 3: Is the Life, was just re released on Netflix and

1599
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 3: was critics pick in The New York Times yesterday. It

1600
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,679
Speaker 3: is a great watch about the incredible community of artists

1601
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:35,560
Speaker 3: and the origins.

1602
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 2: Of la hip hop.

1603
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 3: Following up with you because the main interviewee is in

1604
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 3: Averas film. Aaron Pointer aka Abstract Rude, is the creator

1605
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 3: of the Project Blowed twenty six film. It is a

1606
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 3: wonderful companion watch as he covers the early years that

1607
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 3: are focused on Avas film, but tell the story and

1608
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 3: shares a ton of music that represents what this artist

1609
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 3: community has been up to ever since.

1610
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 2: It was present ever since to the.

1611
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 3: Presence the thought that perhaps you and the black Out

1612
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 3: Tills audience might be interested in that connection, and that

1613
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 3: if people watch AVer's film and are interested in learning more,

1614
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 3: Project Blow twenty six film is fabulous. Even better, supporting

1615
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 3: Project Blow twenty six ten dollars for four views puts

1616
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:14,759
Speaker 3: money directly into the hands of the artists in the platform,

1617
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:16,919
Speaker 3: all of whom are black entrepreneurs with families.

1618
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 2: With great appreciation and respect.

1619
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 3: Adrian, Thanks Adrian, thank you, and lastly, coritha professor, says

1620
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 3: dear Rod and Karen in the word commentary, I hope

1621
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 3: this message finds you well. I'm finally writing with my

1622
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 3: two cents about the N word, a topic that always resurfaces.

1623
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 3: As last week's feedback mentioned, French speaking white people seem

1624
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 3: to like excuses to use the word, but as you know,

1625
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 3: this is a concept issue in all kinds of contexts

1626
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 3: in the United States too. I'm older than y'all, so well,

1627
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 3: you donna look at this, Okay, I'm older than y'all,

1628
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 3: so I know what you mean about how it seems

1629
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 3: younger folks are more outspoken on the issue, especially when

1630
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 3: it happens in their classrooms. For me, it's all about context. Clearly,

1631
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 3: I have no problem here the word in music, on

1632
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 3: this show, etc. But it's not cool in the workplace

1633
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 3: or in learning environments. And classes are both yet workplaces

1634
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 3: and learning environments, a learning environment for students in a

1635
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:14,480
Speaker 3: workplace for teachers. Especially because I didn't go to an HBCU,

1636
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,719
Speaker 3: I was in class where white professors use the word

1637
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 3: student Caretha didn't have the chance or the language to

1638
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 3: express how foul and unnecessari.

1639
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 2: Those situations were. But here's the thing.

1640
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have needed that level of sophistication as savvy.

1641
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 3: I simply shouldn't have been in a class made hostile by.

1642
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 2: The teacher's intellectual laziness.

1643
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 3: White people need to hold themselves and each other to

1644
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 3: higher standards. So Professor Caritha now speaks on the issue

1645
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 3: because I know what student Caretha felt like, and the

1646
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 3: way it felt could have easily kept student Caritha from

1647
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 3: ever pursuing a PhD. For me, this is quickly translated

1648
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 3: into an appreciation for our students shouldn't have to contend

1649
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 3: with slurs at any con Too many teachers operate like

1650
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 3: slurs about sexual orientation or Kaynto disabilities are okay, and

1651
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 3: it simply is it again, students shouldn't have to be

1652
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 3: activists to have a less.

1653
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:01,919
Speaker 2: Hostile learning environment.

1654
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,719
Speaker 3: So I give workshops to get teachers at every level

1655
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 3: to hold themselves to higher standards. I'm reaching lots of

1656
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 3: teachers and administrators, but I would love for more parents

1657
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 3: to know these resources exist so that they can get

1658
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 3: their schools more active on this before the foulness happens

1659
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 3: to their own kid and they end up spending all

1660
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 3: kinds of time and energy trying to hold someone accountable,

1661
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 3: which really actually happens anyway. Here's a forty five minute

1662
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 3: podcast episode I record a couple of years ago, the

1663
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 3: N Word in the Classroom, Just Say No, and C

1664
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 3: one nine podcasts, the C nineteen podcasts.

1665
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 2: I guess if y'all want to go look it up.

1666
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 3: Here's the covenant I use all my class regarding slurs

1667
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 3: and hate speech, and it's a link to teaching in

1668
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 3: the N word and the questions to consider about it

1669
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 3: in the in the classroom.

1670
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:57,799
Speaker 2: And then these.

1671
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 3: Are freely available because of hostility these teachers care. It's

1672
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 3: far too common. I'm doing what I can to make

1673
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 3: it less common. This is a constant topic. So I

1674
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 3: finally just had to share. I never will again, especially

1675
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 3: because this email ended up being so long.

1676
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 2: I promised, good vies, Currica.

1677
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean it's definitely very close and dear

1678
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,679
Speaker 3: to your heart. I could tell Iman done your work

1679
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 3: on it and stuff. Like I said, Man, I mean,

1680
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 3: I'd be lying if I told you it bothered me.

1681
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 3: I'm just you know, it just does it. I don't

1682
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 3: know if it's from being from the South. I don't

1683
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 3: know if it's just I did go to an HBCU,

1684
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 3: and most of the schools I went to were predominantly

1685
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 3: black or had a very high population of black people

1686
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 3: that was overrepresentative of the thirteen percent of the population

1687
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 3: that we actually are. So it could be that, you know,

1688
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 3: lived in a black neighborhood. So to me, I never

1689
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 3: felt endangered or like a teacher was just trying to

1690
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 3: be tricky and get a chance to say nigga. You know,

1691
01:20:57,439 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 3: that was not my experience. But you know, like I said,

1692
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 3: between you and then the person that road in last week,

1693
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 3: that appears that at least some black people feel that

1694
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 3: that's what's happening, and then some black kids in these

1695
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,759
Speaker 3: schools feel like that's what's happening. And I don't regrets

1696
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 3: them at all. Literally, I feel like, you fight the

1697
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 3: fight that's in front of you. If you don't feel comfortable,

1698
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 3: you pay that tuition, and if you don't want to

1699
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 3: hear that shit, you shouldn't have to. I don't think

1700
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 3: it's necessarily an educational thing.

1701
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 2: I don't like.

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01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 3: I don't think a teacher saying innword gym in the

1703
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 3: classroom suddenly takes away from the whole lesson of Tom

1704
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 3: Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn.

1705
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I just I believe there's a

1706
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 2: way to do it. I think the resistance to that

1707
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 2: kind of shit is sometimes over.

1708
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's like they're worried about the slippery slope that

1709
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 3: I don't know that that's where we're going. But we can,

1710
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 3: we can have nuanced the whole way. We can fight

1711
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 3: the slippery slope when we get there.

1712
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 2: So if it's so where.

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01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 3: People are like, I don't want this book taught in

1714
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 3: classes because it has the N word in it, well,

1715
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,799
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think you should not teach Tony

1716
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 3: Morrison's Jazz because it had nigga in it, right, you know.

1717
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 3: And I also think if you're gonna teach it, you should.

1718
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 3: You don't have to say nigga in your class, you know.

1719
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 3: And I think there's plenty of situations what we do

1720
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,639
Speaker 3: think is acceptable to say, Hey, you can't say that here,

1721
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 3: you know, if it's not just a classroom. But like

1722
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 3: and like she said, the classroom is a job for people.

1723
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 3: But like in just your regular fucking nine to five,

1724
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 3: go to work, sit in cubical job, there's no tolerance

1725
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 3: for that type of shit, you know, whether it be

1726
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 3: I'm quoting somebody I heard it in a rap song,

1727
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 3: or I was reading a book and this came up.

1728
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 3: There's never it's like, we don't do that at this job,

1729
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 3: you know. So I could definitely understand why people wouldn't

1730
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 3: be down with that, or people would feel like, you know,

1731
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 3: you just tried to sneak it in there to be

1732
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 3: slick and talk shit, you know, So anyway I feel you.

1733
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, context matters to me.

1734
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,799
Speaker 4: The wordest stuff does not bother me, but the context matters.

1735
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 4: And I think because black people are not a monolist,

1736
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,600
Speaker 4: some people don't want to hear it at all. And

1737
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 4: I happen not to be one of those people, you know.

1738
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 4: And so like you said, you fight the battle where

1739
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 4: you are, and so if that's important to that person,

1740
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with them fighting that battle.

1741
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Speaker 4: I'm not as resistance because at first, when this stuff

1742
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 4: first come up, I was like, what the fuck is

1743
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 4: wrong with y'all? Like in my mind because I can

1744
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 4: only live by my own life experience. But then I

1745
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 4: had to understand, back to what I said before, black

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01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 4: people don't know not a monolitht So my life experience

1747
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 4: isn't the owner black life experience.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I also people just learn to accept shit

1749
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,919
Speaker 3: that the younger generation hopefully doesn't accept.

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Speaker 2: I agreed. You know, It's like sometimes I hear like

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Speaker 2: sins had I mean not.

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01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 3: Ciss but gay gay dudes that be like cis gender

1753
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 3: gay dudes, be like I don't appreciate all these people

1754
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 3: talking about trans and all this shit because we our

1755
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 3: generation fault and we did this and we did that,

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01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 3: and like, you fought so that these people could have

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01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,680
Speaker 3: a chance to have a voice that wasn't yours. Like

1758
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 3: they're standing on your shoulders, dude, why are you trying

1759
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 3: to pull the chair out from under them because you

1760
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 3: didn't get to have the same experience your Your fight

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01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 3: led to their fight, right, And that's and so that's

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Speaker 3: how I look at a lot of this ship, where

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Speaker 3: like it's not my responsibility to necessarily understand or agree,

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01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 3: but I can definitely support it and be like.

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01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, if y'all don't like that ship, the good.

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01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 3: I hope you able to get this, to get this

1767
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 3: motherfucker shit accomplish because what I am forced for you

1768
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 3: feeling comfortable in the classroom. And the thing is I

1769
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 3: have never met a black person that was like, I

1770
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 3: was uncomfortable because.

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Speaker 2: They didn't say nigga.

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Speaker 3: So just don't say it, right, I mean, because it's

1773
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 3: not like it's like I might be okay with it,

1774
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 3: but that doesn't mean that everyone else is.

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01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 2: And if the thing is for me to be.

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01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 3: Okay with it, but you piss off through for other people,

1777
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 3: then don't say it because you would have pissed off zero.

1778
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 2: Of us, right if you just said N word. You know, agreed,

1779
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 2: But that's just my feelings. All right, y'all.

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Speaker 3: That's it for this episode. Appreciate y'all for listening. Yes,

1781
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 3: the late night edition. We'll be back tomorrow, and I

1782
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 3: know Walking There returns this week, so you know, we

1783
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 3: may take a day or two off of the show.

1784
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, we still kind of need

1785
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 3: to take a week off at some point.

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01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 2: So, but we wanted to do this feedback show for sure.

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01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 3: So if you don't see us the rest of the week,

1788
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 3: or we don't pop up until Wednesday and your feed

1789
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 3: to do our recap of Walking Dead, y'all will understand.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'll even take time and put that library show

1792
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 3: out or something for y'all, all right, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Until then, I love you, I love you to