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Speaker 1: Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. Donald Trump makes his return

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Speaker 1: to the capital. Welcome to the fastest hour in politics,

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Speaker 1: as the former president paints a bleak picture of the

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Speaker 1: Republican agenda ahead of four with political scientists and author

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Speaker 1: the Chips Act suddenly on the verge of passing, and

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Speaker 1: Congresswoman Deborah Ross, Democrat from North Carolina. Analysis from our

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Speaker 1: signature panel today Bloomberg Politics contributors Rick Davis and Genie Schanzano.

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Speaker 1: If timing is everything in life, it's sure fed the

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Speaker 1: Let's listen. You know the good part about no longer

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Speaker 1: picture of America focused largely on crime. Here's Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: As you know, Congress women, the President asked for twenty

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Speaker 1: two billion dollars a good six months ago. That was

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Speaker 1: whittled down to ten in some negotiating, and then it

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Speaker 1: never happened at all. Can Congress get this done before

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Speaker 1: the fall? I really hope we can, and I think

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Speaker 1: people are starting to see the imperative with the new

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Speaker 1: variants of COVID. People really are we have COVID fatigue.

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Speaker 1: We want COVID to be gone. But what are people

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Speaker 1: have figured out is COVID isn't going anywhere. It's a virus.

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Speaker 1: It mutate, It is going to be with us, and

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Speaker 1: we are going to have to figure out ways to

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Speaker 1: live with it. We're going to have to have new vaccines,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to have new ways to protect ourselves.

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Speaker 1: And the only way that's going to happen is if

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Speaker 1: we invest in the research, if we invest in making

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Speaker 1: sure that we keep people safe, and that is really

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Speaker 1: coming home. I mean every other day, another member of

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Speaker 1: Congress comes down with COVID, and the schools are going

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Speaker 1: to start off in just a month or so, and

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Speaker 1: we are going to see even more spread. This is

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Speaker 1: why I asked, because our workplaces are not unlike Congress

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Speaker 1: or the White House for that matter. It's it's a

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Speaker 1: steady stream right now. Congresswoman Debora Ross, thank you for joining.

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Speaker 1: A Democrat from North Carolina. Will turn this to the panel. Next,

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Speaker 1: Let's say they get chips. Let's say they get COVID.

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Speaker 1: The store closed. After that, we'll talk about it with

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Speaker 1: Jennie Schanzano and Rick Davis on the Fastest Hour in Politics.

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Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg, So nong with Joe

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Speaker 1: Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. So the Chip act is on

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Speaker 1: the move, set up for a real vote the next

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Speaker 1: couple of days in the Senates, and then it's onto

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Speaker 1: the House. Whereas you just heard here on Bloomberg Radio

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Speaker 1: from Congresswoman Deborah Ross, the House will likely take that

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Speaker 1: and run with it straight to the President's desk. So

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Speaker 1: it's another box to check here on what was a

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Speaker 1: fairly a decent list at the start of the year

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Speaker 1: for Democrats. It just hasn't been much movement on any

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Speaker 1: of it. The other part of this would be, as

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Speaker 1: we discussed COVID funding, we reassemble our panel here to

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Speaker 1: check on the list together. Jennie Chanzano and Rick Davis

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Speaker 1: are with us. Genie, when you when you hear the

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Speaker 1: congresswoman speak so optimistically about the Chip Act, it gets

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Speaker 1: to be kind of blue sky after that, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we need to get this COVID thing done. I think

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Speaker 1: we can do it in that reconciliation bill. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: bring drug prices lower and all that in what the

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Speaker 1: next two weeks? Yeah, literally, I mean, the calendar does

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Speaker 1: always work against them, particularly in this case, as so

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Speaker 1: many members all of the House and you know a

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Speaker 1: third of the Senate want to get back to their

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Speaker 1: districts for the break, and you know, there is a

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Speaker 1: lot on the table after CHIPS and you know, other

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Speaker 1: things are the same sex Marriage Bill, NATO for Sweden

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Speaker 1: and Finland, the Packed Act, the American Innovation Choice on

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Speaker 1: Line Act. Than then, as you mentioned, reconciliation. Then you

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Speaker 1: flipped to the House. They have all of that. Plus

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Speaker 1: you've got a lot of moderate Democrats there in purple

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Speaker 1: districts who want to do something to show that they

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Speaker 1: are tough on crime and want to do some kind

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Speaker 1: of police funding bills. So those things, you know, we

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Speaker 1: may see movement on because it helps their re election bids,

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Speaker 1: but it's an uphill battle. Rick. You see the chip

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Speaker 1: backed getting done. You've been saying that for weeks, So

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Speaker 1: we'll park that there. What's real after that? Is there

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Speaker 1: more COVID funding or will Republicans say turned back to

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Speaker 1: the States and clawback the money you already sent. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think that that there may be more of a

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Speaker 1: focus on the willingness to look at some funding for COVID.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, uh, we're all hearing the reporting. You know,

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Speaker 1: hospitalizations are rising, the pandemic is everywhere, and as you

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Speaker 1: said earlier, we're gonna have to learn how to live

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Speaker 1: with it, and part of that is funding the necessary

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Speaker 1: public health infrastructure to do that. So I think that

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Speaker 1: as part of other potentially reconciliation type items, if if

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Speaker 1: there is an effort to put forth this um you know,

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Speaker 1: um drug bill, maybe that could have attack on you know,

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Speaker 1: they'll they'll be opportunities like that, But I don't think

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Speaker 1: until the fall. I really don't think that there's enough

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Speaker 1: time left in this administration, um, you know, this summer

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Speaker 1: to get those kinds of already said as much, right,

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Speaker 1: he wants to see you know of c P I'll

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Speaker 1: I'll see you in September, right exactly. And and and

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Speaker 1: by the way, this is a huge victory to get

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Speaker 1: this chip back done. Uh, it's a good thing for

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Speaker 1: the country. It's another bipartisan bill that this administration can

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Speaker 1: can go out and talk about. And and by the way,

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Speaker 1: and Republicans are going to go out and talk about

518
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Speaker 1: it too, is being a great success for them. So

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Speaker 1: I think this is gonna end the summer on a

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Speaker 1: high note for this administration and for Republicans alike on

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Speaker 1: the matter of learning to live with it. Listen to

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Speaker 1: a She's jug and in the White House briefing room,

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Speaker 1: this is the COVID Response Coordinator. And our you know,

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Speaker 1: our eyebrows went up last week at this time when

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Speaker 1: Karine John Pierre said, look, hey, everybody's gonna get COVID

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Speaker 1: and some of this is following the president's testing positive.

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Speaker 1: Listen to the way she's jaw addresses this today. This

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Speaker 1: virus is going to be with us forever. Uh, It's

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Speaker 1: really really important that people build up their immunity against

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Speaker 1: this virus. And so I've been very clear for years,

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Speaker 1: I mean two years or a year and a half.

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Speaker 1: I guess since we've had vaccines that getting vaccinated is

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Speaker 1: one of the best ways that people have to protect themselves.

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Speaker 1: This virus is going to be with us forever, Genie.

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Speaker 1: Is that consistent with what the administration has been saying.

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Speaker 1: Is that different than we're all going to get it

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Speaker 1: at some point, you know, I think they're trying to

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Speaker 1: make the case that if you do get the vaccinations

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Speaker 1: and that you do get boosted, that while you may

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Speaker 1: still get it and many of us have and will,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to be hospitalized around a ventilator or

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Speaker 1: have serious consequences. So that's the message they're trying to

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Speaker 1: get out there. You know, in their defense, I would say,

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Speaker 1: when you were trying to initially push the vaccinations, they

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Speaker 1: did have a different message for I think important reasons.

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Speaker 1: And we've seen that morphs for some you know, morph

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Speaker 1: as more people have gotten vaccinated. I guess I can't

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Speaker 1: figure out Rick. As you see the president do these

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Speaker 1: daily updates and you know, we're getting letters from the

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Speaker 1: doctor every five minutes. They're really trying to overdo this,

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Speaker 1: even though some are asking for more transparency, they want

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Speaker 1: to use conference with the doctor. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you have a feeling for that. But as far as

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Speaker 1: this goes in terms of the argument to to be vaccinated,

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Speaker 1: is it giving people a reason to say, well, forget

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Speaker 1: it if we're all gonna get COVID or are they

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Speaker 1: making the case in real time before Americans on what

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Speaker 1: an almost eighty year old man can do with a

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Speaker 1: COVID diagnosis because he's vaccinated. Yeah. I think one there's

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Speaker 1: a little hangover from the way the Trump administration handled

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Speaker 1: the president getting COVID at that time, and it was

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Speaker 1: kind of shut down. You really weren't sure what was

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Speaker 1: going on. You know, there was this rejection of of

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Speaker 1: of isolation and things like that. So I do think

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Speaker 1: this administration still has that hangover of like, we want

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Speaker 1: to do everything the opposite of the Trump administration, and

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Speaker 1: so I think you're seeing a little of correction in

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Speaker 1: that too. I think that that everyone is moving into

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Speaker 1: in a public health side, this idea of as you say,

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Speaker 1: living with it, and living with it means you know,

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Speaker 1: managing it. Managing it means getting vaccinated. And it's not

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Speaker 1: anything new, but it's a recognition that there's no victory here, right,

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Speaker 1: there's not going to be you know, mission accomplished signs

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Speaker 1: and from the White House on defeating COVID, and so

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Speaker 1: the sooner we start treating it like and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: a a flu bug there, everyone can get vaccinated and

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Speaker 1: nobody gets into too much health problems with it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: then then I think, you know, people will start moving on.

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Speaker 1: But we're probably not there yet from what the experts

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Speaker 1: are telling us even this week. They're probably gonna need

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Speaker 1: more resources. And it's still a big initiative for the government.

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Speaker 1: But I think I wouldn't want to be in the

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Speaker 1: White House sitting setting targets on how many people are

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Speaker 1: gonna get vaccinated or how many people are gonna get

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Speaker 1: in a hospital. No, I think everybody's out of that game, Genie.

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Speaker 1: I mean, here we are. What it's a year and

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Speaker 1: a half later, year and a half with vaccines, Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump still cannot say the word vaccine without being booed

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Speaker 1: in a speech said today everything that Dr Faucci instructed

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Speaker 1: him to do, he took the opposite approach. We haven't

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Speaker 1: come very far in some cases in that argument. Have

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Speaker 1: we We have, and and you know, it is maddening

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Speaker 1: because I give Donald Trump a lot of credit for

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Speaker 1: what he did to push the vaccination out there, and

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Speaker 1: of course Joe Biden to take that mantle on and

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Speaker 1: move it forward, and so many of us have benefited

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Speaker 1: from that. And the fact that he tried at one

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Speaker 1: point Donald Trump to say it and got booed and

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Speaker 1: has now, as you mentioned, shied away from that. It's maddening.

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Speaker 1: One thing I would say about Biden. I am one

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Speaker 1: who thinks that the doctor should come out. I think

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Speaker 1: that she's jaws wonderful. He does a great job. But

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Speaker 1: I do think because we have a president who's eighty

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Speaker 1: years old, and you know this is his health is

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Speaker 1: a major concern, and so I am not sure why

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Speaker 1: the doctor's treating him or the doctor treating him does

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Speaker 1: not talk to the press. And I don't think he

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Speaker 1: has to do it hourly. But when you've got any president,

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Speaker 1: but a president of this age, I do think it

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Speaker 1: makes sense to send him out there. Rick, if you

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Speaker 1: were back in the White House, would you send the

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Speaker 1: doctor down to the briefing room? Yeah? Probably. I mean

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Speaker 1: I I try to make it routine, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing special here. He would have done this already then. Yeah. Look,

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Speaker 1: I was in a White House when Ronald Reagan, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, got had his cancer surgeries. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, you have an obligation these are servants of

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Speaker 1: the people, uh, to inform them of what's going on.

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Speaker 1: And and it's a difficult decision to make, but one

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Speaker 1: that transparency usually wins out. They were pretty defensive about

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Speaker 1: this Karine Jean Pierre Annehy's job when they were asked

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Speaker 1: about this genie in the briefing room, repeatedly saying, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: we're giving you these letters. You're hearing directly from him.

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Speaker 1: Is that the same thing? It isn't you know? Reporters

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Speaker 1: have to be able to ask questions, and I think

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Speaker 1: it raises more questions. Why are we keeping him hidden?

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Speaker 1: As Rick said, once a day, once every two days,

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Speaker 1: whatever their regular you know, not a big deal. But

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Speaker 1: let him go out and answer some questions and give

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Speaker 1: the people the information they need. Transparency is critical in

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Speaker 1: a time of crisis. With the president, this age infected.

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Speaker 1: We started this hour with the panel talking about Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump and Mike Pence and the split screen speeches today,

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Speaker 1: and I want to wrap up this fastest hour in

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Speaker 1: politics by talking about something that's related to both, and

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Speaker 1: that is the elect World Count Act. We've we've discussed

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Speaker 1: COVID funding, We've discussed the possibility of reconciliation, the Chip Act,

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Speaker 1: what might be left on the shopping list if anything.

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Speaker 1: But there's a there's a good chance that this gets

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Speaker 1: to the floor. Uh. It's a bipartisan bill now to

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Speaker 1: reform the Electoral Count Act to basically make clear that

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Speaker 1: the vice president does not have the ability to overturn

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Speaker 1: the results of an election. Does that need to get

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Speaker 1: done or actually, will that get done? Rick? It will

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Speaker 1: get done. As you pointed out, Joe, it's a very

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Speaker 1: bipartisan bill. It was drafted with Republicans and Democrats. It's

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Speaker 1: not controversial unless somebody decides to stake out some kind

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Speaker 1: of uh, conspiracy theory that somehow this doesn't strengthen our union.

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Speaker 1: So this will happen if it's not going to happen

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Speaker 1: before the summer. It will happen in the early fall.

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Speaker 1: Nobody disagrees with us. Everyone wants to see this happen,

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Speaker 1: and it will make our country stronger in the next election.

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Speaker 1: There was a time, Genie when some progressives were balking

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Speaker 1: at this because it was was not comprehensive elector reform.

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Speaker 1: Should Democrats support it, absolutely, they should support it. The

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Speaker 1: electoral connects from eighteen seven. It has long needed to

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Speaker 1: be addressed and changed. And yes, I too would like

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Speaker 1: to see more comprehensive of reform in terms of our

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Speaker 1: voting laws and procedures and processes. But you don't stop

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Speaker 1: stop something that makes sense because you want more. You

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Speaker 1: move forward with this and then try to get the

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Speaker 1: rest done when you can. This is critical to our democracy.

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Speaker 1: Well it's okay, there you go. I think we identified

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Speaker 1: something again here. We've talked about this before. Rick. If

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Speaker 1: you're going to have you know, any kind of triumphant

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Speaker 1: end to the summer, as you pointed out with say

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Speaker 1: the Hip Act, and you're part of the Biden administration,

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Speaker 1: this is something you can point to directly coming off

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Speaker 1: of the January six hearings. That makes a change. That's

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Speaker 1: right and um and look I think the only limitation

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Speaker 1: that this bill has right now is process is procedures,

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Speaker 1: is getting the night the right rules in place, and

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Speaker 1: and actually going through the time it takes to move

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Speaker 1: a bill. So I don't really think there's anything politically

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Speaker 1: that's a hurdle to this, and it is going to

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Speaker 1: be I think seen as one of the one of

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Speaker 1: the outtakes from the January six Commission. Rick and Jeanne

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Speaker 1: Great Conversation has always our signature panel on Bloomberg Sound

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Speaker 1: on the fastest hour in politics. Thanks to everyone for

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Speaker 1: being with us. Samara clar and of course Congresswoman Deborah

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Speaker 1: Ross will do it again tomorrow. I'll meet you back here.

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