WEBVTT - Police Pistol Play Continues

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<v Speaker 1>We like to welcome everyone to another episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Gangster Chronicles podcast and move my dog. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>here about the police shooting a lot of people. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's proper. Sometimes they're justin, you know, shooting somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you know, more often than not. Unfortunately, um, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to use the excessive for us. They do

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<v Speaker 1>as we see recently a new thing. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>shot a man in Arizona that was in the wheelchair.

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<v Speaker 1>Brother that was in the wheelchair got shot, right, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess this just happened on the Two Sign Police

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<v Speaker 1>Department is officially terminated. The cup who killed a disabled man,

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<v Speaker 1>shooting the wheelchair bound sixty one year old man nine

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<v Speaker 1>times in the back and side. This is a guy

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<v Speaker 1>in a wheelchair now. The killing took place the end

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<v Speaker 1>of November in a big box shopping complex south of

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<v Speaker 1>downtown the Arizona City. A four year veteran of the

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<v Speaker 1>Two Sign Police Force, Ryan Remington, was working on a

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<v Speaker 1>special duty side shifted security for a wal Mart store.

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<v Speaker 1>They're a man named Richard Richards allegedly shot lifted the

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<v Speaker 1>two bucks as Richard rode up store in his red

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<v Speaker 1>mobility device and employee asked to see his receipt, and,

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<v Speaker 1>according to an account offered by the Tucson Police, Mr

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<v Speaker 1>richardson brandish and knife and said, here's your receipt. Officer

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<v Speaker 1>Remington's having observed it, encounter pursued Richards out of the

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<v Speaker 1>store and into the parking lot and a slow speed

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<v Speaker 1>chase on foot and the video released by the police,

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<v Speaker 1>Remington can be heard calling for backup a legend Richards

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<v Speaker 1>pulled a knife on. A second officer soon arrived on

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<v Speaker 1>the scene wearing a body camera. A scene on the

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<v Speaker 1>video from that device, Richards was ignoring Remington's orders and

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<v Speaker 1>rolling towards the injuries of a Lows Garden center. Remington shouted,

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<v Speaker 1>do not go on the store, Sir. Richards did not obey.

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<v Speaker 1>Remington suddenly opened fire at close range, shooting eight times

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<v Speaker 1>in rapid succession from behind the wheel chair before firing

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<v Speaker 1>a knife shot. After brief falls, Richards can then be

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<v Speaker 1>seen toppling head first on to the pavement, where he

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<v Speaker 1>gets handcuffed by Remington. Richards was declared dead shortly the

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<v Speaker 1>after so he pushed the man over in his wheel

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<v Speaker 1>check James dead lifeless body handcuffed them up and face

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<v Speaker 1>down on the ground straight. Disrespectful. Yeah, it was disrespectful,

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<v Speaker 1>and I imagine and it's not saying the guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the wheelchair was wrong for stealing, But there's no way

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<v Speaker 1>you can justify shooting him that many times. For shooting

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<v Speaker 1>him period, he was wheelchair bomb. When they just say,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, I shot somebody, and I shot somebody multiple times,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna give me another case for the many times

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<v Speaker 1>that I shot that person. Uh, I forgot what they

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<v Speaker 1>call it, but I know somebody out there know what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Excessive forces of motherfucker. But it don't apply

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<v Speaker 1>to them, but it applies to us. So what's the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking reason for shooting a handicapped man nine times? Even

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<v Speaker 1>even if you got a knife, you can't take that

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<v Speaker 1>knife from me. Where's their training that bro? Where's you

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<v Speaker 1>know you gotta have from that? You can't handicap man,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need to be a police officer. Well that's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing, James, this guy's in a wheelchair. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, if it's a big burly guy, because

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<v Speaker 1>a guy with a knife can take you out. I

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<v Speaker 1>can see if it was a regular walking man with

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<v Speaker 1>a knife and said you know I got this knife

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<v Speaker 1>from stab you. But um, from what I know, especially security,

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<v Speaker 1>once a person is in the parking lot, you're really

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<v Speaker 1>not supposed to pursue him anymore. He's gone already. Well

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a police officer though, right, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the police officer. And this guy was evidently I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I'm doing some side work with wald March. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he was out making him an extra few dollars, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess doing some security and wal Mark, and he just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just took that way overboard. So what they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing about it is is did they file charges against

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<v Speaker 1>him for doing it? Well? Here he deals right here.

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<v Speaker 1>Um to Sign. Mayor of Regina Ramero quickly blasted the

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<v Speaker 1>sling is unconsciousnes about and indefensible. In the press conference

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<v Speaker 1>the day after the shooting, to Sign, Police Chief Chris

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<v Speaker 1>magnus scoreated Remington. I am deeply troubled by Officer Remitton's actions,

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<v Speaker 1>he said. This use of deadly forced this incident is

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<v Speaker 1>the clear violation of department policy and directly contradicts multiple

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<v Speaker 1>aspects of our use of forced training. The chief announced

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<v Speaker 1>that the that the department had already moved to terminate

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<v Speaker 1>officer Remington. So he's getting fired and I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>surprised to see his next step being a lengthy sentience

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<v Speaker 1>in jail. That all depends some of them, don't get.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it all depends on what you mean length

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<v Speaker 1>to you. For five years, he took a man life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he took a man's life. Like to be honest with you, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the only way you can justify this because

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<v Speaker 1>that man's family is about to get paid. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they are, but it ain't about the money. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing about the money. That really don't matter. So so

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is where what I see when she

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<v Speaker 1>like incidents like this happened. This is what they should do.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, every police officer to have to retrain because

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta be you gotta be trained for different situations

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<v Speaker 1>in the street because you're gonna have all different types

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<v Speaker 1>of ship that happens. So if you if you can't

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<v Speaker 1>take a man in a wheelchair down, you shouldn't be working.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't have anybody on the force that can

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<v Speaker 1>talk to a a a kid with down centrome and

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<v Speaker 1>just out there acting already and really don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing. If you're not prepared to to to handle

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<v Speaker 1>a certain situation, then they shouldn't be called to the

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<v Speaker 1>scene for that type of ship. Everybody is not equipped

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<v Speaker 1>to do certain things. So somebody has to be equipped

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<v Speaker 1>to handle multi situation different ships. Man. So here you

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<v Speaker 1>got a sixty one year old man dead. They could

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<v Speaker 1>have tasted they could have I mean, they could have

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<v Speaker 1>pulled out the shield and and rushed them. They could

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<v Speaker 1>have come him, they could have got him. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not laughing, James, because I'm not laughing at

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<v Speaker 1>the loss of life here. I'm laughing because it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem real. This man, the sixty one, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not to mix the wheel chick changed the brother of

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<v Speaker 1>the sixty one years so right, he's not kicking up

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<v Speaker 1>too much dest at that age. And the cold party

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<v Speaker 1>is is you don't even have respect for life. You

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<v Speaker 1>you killed, you him out to chair after after the fact, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you said, and then one of the things that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to mix. And they say that after he shot

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<v Speaker 1>him the fifth time, there was a pause in between

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<v Speaker 1>the sixth shot or the ninth shot, whatever it was,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a pause in between like he just looked

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<v Speaker 1>at him for a second. And just busting on him

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<v Speaker 1>one more time and then just said and put the

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<v Speaker 1>handcuffs on him. Change when he was dead. He was

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<v Speaker 1>he was, he was done. You shot the man nine

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<v Speaker 1>times in the back. What is he still a threat

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<v Speaker 1>at the time? Though, No, he's not a threat to me.

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<v Speaker 1>That man wasn't threat the moment you saw him in

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<v Speaker 1>the wheelchair, first of all. And I'm pretty sure that's

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<v Speaker 1>against corporates, wal Mart's corporate policy to go chasing people

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<v Speaker 1>into the parking lot, because you have to imagine the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of people, especially these wal marks the way they

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<v Speaker 1>are not They have these big box wal marks. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what, the grocery stores inside of those places are huge, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you gotta figure it's somebody every five minutes stealing

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<v Speaker 1>something out of that, whether it's a twol fresh or

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<v Speaker 1>a candy bar, a TV. You got people to work

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<v Speaker 1>there stealing. You've got people coming in stealing. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure wal Mart already budgets that as a part

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<v Speaker 1>of their business. Steps is a part of their business

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<v Speaker 1>and say, okay, we go lose about a hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a year in the store from the people are

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<v Speaker 1>go steal. So you chase the man out the store

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<v Speaker 1>with a tul box and we started shooting. Now, just

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<v Speaker 1>think about how dangerous that is for the shoppers that

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<v Speaker 1>are there, because you always go have people that the

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<v Speaker 1>lucky loose, you know, the look you losing the crime scene.

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<v Speaker 1>You always go have people standing around seeing what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>You out there shooting James. You don't know how easy

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<v Speaker 1>it he is for a bullet to go through a

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<v Speaker 1>window somewhere else and shoot somebody else. It was a girl,

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<v Speaker 1>the loss of life at um T J Max or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, maybe six months ago from that same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Police shooting and cheating and triumph and dress with prom

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<v Speaker 1>and moves to their life. That was just irresponsible. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not I'm pretty sure that's not in the trend. Go

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<v Speaker 1>shooting somebody in the public place. That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>They you gotta you gotta have some kind of order here.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta have some kind of something. Somebody gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>able to take him up down. Just because you got

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<v Speaker 1>a nice we got guns, we got tasers, they got

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<v Speaker 1>they got rubber bullets, they whatever the case might be,

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<v Speaker 1>it don't happen to You don't have to just shoot

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<v Speaker 1>people exactly. Well, the way they're cracking down on police today,

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<v Speaker 1>you might be right, but you know, just keep happening.

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<v Speaker 1>We ain't gonna have no police officers because ain't nobody

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<v Speaker 1>gonna want to do the job. Um, they're not protecting

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<v Speaker 1>each other like they used to, so a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people would quit, gonna quit. But I mean, do you

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<v Speaker 1>wake up in the motherfucker do you wake up in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning feeling like you got you're gonna kill somebody

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<v Speaker 1>or you want to kill somebody today? You know, police

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<v Speaker 1>officers are just like us. They're human. So if they

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<v Speaker 1>wake up and go to work and have issues with

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<v Speaker 1>the old lady that night, they take that bullshit to

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<v Speaker 1>work with them. The majority of them do. Some don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to separate family life. You know, your life

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<v Speaker 1>at home compared to going to work. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing at work every day. So I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's crazy. He might he might not. The

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<v Speaker 1>way that ship go today, is he definitely well, he

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<v Speaker 1>definitely lost his job. Sure he's out of there, so

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<v Speaker 1>he lost his can he he can go to another

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<v Speaker 1>state or whatever and become a police officer there another

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<v Speaker 1>county or anothering. You know what, I would imagine what

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<v Speaker 1>the police force, James, that it's like kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>a blanket thing. If you do something that one Pricing

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<v Speaker 1>or another district out of state. I'm pretty sure when

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<v Speaker 1>they check your record, if they heard that you shot

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<v Speaker 1>up dude in the back of the wheelchair outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the wall MARTA Knight and the left on his face,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with his face down, asks up, I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure you're not getting the job nowhere else. I would

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<v Speaker 1>hope not. You know, I was definitely hope not. I

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<v Speaker 1>would definitely hope my brother and I think, um, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the thing is with with all these guys is

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<v Speaker 1>that they get a sense of power, right, they get

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of power and they just feel like they

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<v Speaker 1>rule the world. That that could be the only explanation

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<v Speaker 1>I can think about this is they get a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of power and they just feel like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>and I bet you if we go back, he has

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<v Speaker 1>fell out with this guy before because that sounded person

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<v Speaker 1>You think it was personal. Yeah, I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>personal because you know, if you get a guy using

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<v Speaker 1>these guys to go on these stories stealing James, they

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<v Speaker 1>used to go all the time and still That's why

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<v Speaker 1>they go to certain stories because they feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>easier for them to get away, you know. So if

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<v Speaker 1>he was in there steal in the two box, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure it wasn't his first time stealing, because I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen guys and wheelchairs running their coins. I'm in the

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<v Speaker 1>grocery store, like if I'm in Sam's Club or somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>I see dudes all the time. And those wheelchairs, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that they have for the store, the little

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<v Speaker 1>mobility ones. I've seen the guy. Saw a guy one

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<v Speaker 1>day just this past weekend, I'm gonna, you know, from

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<v Speaker 1>the meat section and sam Club and to do this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and meat under a thunder this thing. Who donna

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<v Speaker 1>check him? I didn't say that. Then I should have

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<v Speaker 1>told him to throw me a couple of steaks up

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<v Speaker 1>under there, and I shoot you a few dollars when

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<v Speaker 1>we get outside. You know what I mean, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>grab me these red buys, dog, and I shoot you

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<v Speaker 1>twenty dollars when we get outside. You know. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just joking people. But I see people all the

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<v Speaker 1>time doing stuff, and I tend to mind my business,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I tend to mind my business. So people

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<v Speaker 1>in wheelchairs do steal. So I'm pretty sure he has

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<v Speaker 1>gotten into it with that guy before, or he was

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<v Speaker 1>a guy because in some of those stories they have

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<v Speaker 1>suspects in the back, like this dude come in and

0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.360
<v Speaker 1>stealing all the time. We can't catch him, but we

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<v Speaker 1>know he's stealing. That's sound the personal change because he

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<v Speaker 1>tore that dude's ass up. It's something was on his

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<v Speaker 1>mind and shoot him nine times. Uh. You know, people

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<v Speaker 1>in this situation like that everyday game banging and all

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<v Speaker 1>that other ship is. It don't have to be personal,

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<v Speaker 1>it just man. Do you know what? Man, whatever it is, James,

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<v Speaker 1>there is no there's nothing that justifies that. That's like

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<v Speaker 1>the craziest thing I've ever heard. I think that's almost

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<v Speaker 1>worse than the look here we heard. So it's this

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<v Speaker 1>guy black, you know what. Let me see. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really think about what color he was. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, let me see. They have footage of the

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<v Speaker 1>they have footage of the killing that online. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the guy's nationality, James, but I don't even think

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<v Speaker 1>in this case it don't matter. Man. You shoot the

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<v Speaker 1>sixty one year old man, man, well, one year old guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean all points of it. It do matter. It

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<v Speaker 1>matters because I mean, look where you act. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we can't deny that it a racism out there.

0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:40.400
<v Speaker 1>We can't say there's no racism with police officers. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't say there's no racism in the hospitals, fire department,

0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:50.200
<v Speaker 1>We can't say that the military, because it do exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why would I shoot a man nine times and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here to serve and protect it just it's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be unheard up, but it's not unheard up. It

0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:08.280
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be that common, but it's common, you feel me.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, you gotta figure out and you gotta understand,

0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:14.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, what's going on in the mind of them

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<v Speaker 1>mother fucking police officer at that time of shooting a

0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:21.040
<v Speaker 1>man nine times and then tipt him over in his

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<v Speaker 1>chair then and comfy after you and he's dead. He's

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<v Speaker 1>no longer a threat. So you're putting the cuffs on

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<v Speaker 1>the man. And they just showed that he didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a hard saying that was pretty like that, that's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>like um, that's pretty careless. Well, when they say that

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<v Speaker 1>that's procedure, I think you want to use that type

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<v Speaker 1>of ship when it's necessary a month bucker moving. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the first thing they say is stopped resisting

0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.800
<v Speaker 1>when it's clear that I'm just standing here, or you

0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:57.680
<v Speaker 1>got your kneel on my neck or I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost seemed like it's damn They're planned, is orchestrated. Is

0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.040
<v Speaker 1>we can get away with it if we just used

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<v Speaker 1>these certain words, these certain tactics, do it this way,

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<v Speaker 1>and your asses covered, you know that's what Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. It sounded really personal. But but here's another

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<v Speaker 1>one right here, right now. We had another guy, another

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<v Speaker 1>young black man, Jaylen Walker from Akron, Ohio. He shot

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<v Speaker 1>forty six times UM and a tops. He revealed Jalen Walker,

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<v Speaker 1>the unarmed man who was shot and killed by Akron,

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio police to end up a high speed chase, had

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<v Speaker 1>forty six gunshot entrance wounds or Gray's injury. Summer County

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<v Speaker 1>Medical Examiner Dr. Lisa Cohler said Friday his death was

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<v Speaker 1>due to blood loss from his eternal injuries and the

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<v Speaker 1>cause of death is multiple gunshot wounds. Colder said tests

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<v Speaker 1>revealed no evidence of drugs or alcohol in his system.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, Walker, a twenty five year old black man,

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<v Speaker 1>was shot as he fled police officers trying to stop

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<v Speaker 1>him for an alleged traffic violation. He was remembered soft spoken,

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<v Speaker 1>loving and kind of his funeral Wednesday. Details of the

0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.600
<v Speaker 1>case continue to emerge the myth public scrutiny of how

0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:10.360
<v Speaker 1>law enforcement personnel across the United States used force, especially

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<v Speaker 1>against people of color. Walker was black, while seven of

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<v Speaker 1>the eight officers who fired on him are white and

0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.720
<v Speaker 1>one is black. The city is said all were put

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<v Speaker 1>on paid administrative lead, per department policy, so they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pay leave. Not right. Jalen Walker suffered at least sixty

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<v Speaker 1>wounds and fatal shooting, Acting Police chief says in the

0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:33.240
<v Speaker 1>authorities released body camp footage. Colon said the gunshot entrance

0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.800
<v Speaker 1>wounds included fifteen on Walker's torso, where he had eternal

0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:40.080
<v Speaker 1>injuries to his heart, lungs, liver, spleen, left kidney, and testants,

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<v Speaker 1>and multiple ribs. Seventeen on his pelvits and upper legs,

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<v Speaker 1>with the right major artery going to the leg and

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<v Speaker 1>the bladder word injured and the pelvits and both femers

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<v Speaker 1>were broken. One on his face where the jaw broke,

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<v Speaker 1>eight on his arms and right hand, five on his knees,

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<v Speaker 1>right lower leg, and right foot. Walker's family and representatives

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<v Speaker 1>were able to review the sport prior to this announcement

0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:05.280
<v Speaker 1>of the news conference. Covid said his cousin, Roder Walker Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>Told Cenn on Friday, I feel like we've been echoing

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<v Speaker 1>zero threat, zero violence. I keep saying his name, young

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<v Speaker 1>African American male afron Ohio who was looking to explore

0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the world lively, young man, love to travel, even made

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<v Speaker 1>plans to come down to use and to visit the

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<v Speaker 1>Road or Renaissance Festival and even catching live w W

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<v Speaker 1>E and fin you see it. So his life was

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<v Speaker 1>taken away way too soon. You know what we're gonna

0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.480
<v Speaker 1>have to happened, James, And I'm gonna tell you this

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and it's already happening. People are gonna start

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<v Speaker 1>going back to the world with the police in the minute.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be the streets against the police, admitted. What

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta look at it like this, when when and

0:17:56.320 --> 0:18:00.480
<v Speaker 1>that's that's some crazy ship. You lose the fan, remember

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<v Speaker 1>that being shot that many times by people that are

0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.679
<v Speaker 1>here are supposed to be here to serving protect you.

0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Who who the funk deserves to get shot that many times. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm saying. It just doesn't make sense. It

0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:23.199
<v Speaker 1>defies logic almost, And just because he was running. Was

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<v Speaker 1>he in the car? Yeah, he was in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>And see that's the thing, James, when they say somebody

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<v Speaker 1>is on the high speed chase. Do you know how

0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:34.399
<v Speaker 1>many times I haven't been pulled over excessively necessarily? But

0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I've had times that where the police are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>pull me over, not to know they was I was

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<v Speaker 1>the one that was trying to pull over. If you

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<v Speaker 1>went traffic, sometimes on the freeway, and you just in

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<v Speaker 1>the mold of driving and you haven't done anything wrong,

0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:49.720
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you don't notice flashing lights behind you. So theoretically,

0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:51.960
<v Speaker 1>if you you may drive a couple of miles before

0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:53.320
<v Speaker 1>you were aware, and they might hit you with the

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<v Speaker 1>horn like with the aren't you know what? Then you

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<v Speaker 1>pull over? Right, But technically, if I'm driving for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of miles, what's to stop them from saying I

0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:05.840
<v Speaker 1>was running? That's true child trying to evade capture, because

0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, evidently he pulled over at some point, right,

0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:11.600
<v Speaker 1>so he pulled over, You got him pulled over already.

0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:14.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't see anything that can justify them shooting that

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<v Speaker 1>man that many times. He didn't have a weapon with him,

0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:19.760
<v Speaker 1>he didn't have a gun, he didn't have no drugs

0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:22.119
<v Speaker 1>in the system, he didn't even have no weakness systems. Schames.

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<v Speaker 1>He was sober. The man was sober. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a hell of coincidence. And this keep happening

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<v Speaker 1>to us, this keeps happening the black people. It ain't

0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:36.119
<v Speaker 1>no coincidence. I mean, it is with it. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I say, man, it's what choices do we have. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they believed that every every black man is violent,

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<v Speaker 1>and it shows in these videos where they don't pulled

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<v Speaker 1>over our shop, one of their own because he was black.

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<v Speaker 1>They disrespected and treated him just like he was just civilian,

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<v Speaker 1>a regular motherfucker like us. But police officer got his ass.

0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Whold a black police officer, guy pulled over after stand,

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<v Speaker 1>he got a gun, my gun on my hip, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole nine. He didn't want to work with him like that.

0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:16.879
<v Speaker 1>So man, even our our black police officers are scared

0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:23.480
<v Speaker 1>of police officers. So man, I mean, you know, these

0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:29.719
<v Speaker 1>people talk about us, but look how they're killing us. Bro,

0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:34.280
<v Speaker 1>And we don't do shit. About it. Well, you know

0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:36.760
<v Speaker 1>what the problem is, James, And um, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say this, and I've never been one that want to

0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:43.159
<v Speaker 1>sound like a preacher. You know what our problem it was, James,

0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:48.399
<v Speaker 1>is that we're too busy attacking each other to really

0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:52.320
<v Speaker 1>focus on what the real threat is. Right. Well, see,

0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:54.840
<v Speaker 1>we don't want to We don't want to deal with

0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:57.399
<v Speaker 1>the real threat. We ain't trying to trip with no

0:20:57.480 --> 0:20:59.439
<v Speaker 1>white people. We ain't trying to argue a fight with

0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:04.359
<v Speaker 1>no white people. We are more comfortable with fighting ourself. Yeah,

0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.479
<v Speaker 1>and I think this is you know what, and I

0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:09.040
<v Speaker 1>keep saying because this is definitely a color thing. This

0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:13.160
<v Speaker 1>is definitely race motivated. Right, But and I don't think

0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:15.520
<v Speaker 1>it's so much as tripping on white people as tripping

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<v Speaker 1>on authority, on the people that authority out there actually

0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:21.119
<v Speaker 1>killing us. Because the average white person don't have the

0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.119
<v Speaker 1>same part of the police officer hands, you know what

0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, They just can't come and just shoot you.

0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:27.880
<v Speaker 1>They can't come and shoot you. But most of these

0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:31.800
<v Speaker 1>white most of these white police officers, James, have ties

0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:35.280
<v Speaker 1>the racist organizations already, So then being a police officer

0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:38.480
<v Speaker 1>is just a bonus for them, right, gives them a

0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:41.200
<v Speaker 1>license to kill. It gives them a bonus. So just

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<v Speaker 1>imagine if I belong to a white supremacist organization and

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm a police officer. I got a badge and

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<v Speaker 1>I catched me, and you ride in the car. Okay.

0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I got two black males driving, one of them suspicious.

0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:56.520
<v Speaker 1>They're suspicious, one of them. They run the tags and everything.

0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:59.359
<v Speaker 1>They pull us over, right, it's nothing in that. If

0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:01.840
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing, think, I'm guys green nerve they can stop

0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:06.320
<v Speaker 1>them from saying. Oh, he lunged stored me. Um. He

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:09.879
<v Speaker 1>was combative, he was argumented. Because I'm gonna tell you

0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I've had instance, James to worry. I don't know. I

0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:14.560
<v Speaker 1>was on point, kept my hands on the wheel, offs

0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:17.440
<v Speaker 1>from reaching my back left pocket to pull my idea out,

0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:19.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, my driver's license to get it to you.

0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:21.360
<v Speaker 1>And I'm letting them know everything I'm doing. And I've

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:25.359
<v Speaker 1>still caught attitude. I've had a dude, they had this

0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:29.479
<v Speaker 1>knee in my back, arms pulled back and I'm laying there.

0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:32.080
<v Speaker 1>James can't hardly breathe, and he's telling me the whole

0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:34.800
<v Speaker 1>time stop resisting. It's like, dude, I'm not moving, like

0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:36.800
<v Speaker 1>like where am I gonna move to You're about to

0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:40.960
<v Speaker 1>bring my arms off my shoulders. That's what I'm saying. See,

0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:45.159
<v Speaker 1>I learned a long time ago there's no wind. So

0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:48.760
<v Speaker 1>all of the argument and and and telling them fuck

0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:51.800
<v Speaker 1>you you only met, you're only making a matter of

0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:56.920
<v Speaker 1>worse for yourself. So when you applied and you listen

0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:59.359
<v Speaker 1>to all their commands and all that other ship that

0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:02.760
<v Speaker 1>they actually to do, it's still the same thing because

0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:06.000
<v Speaker 1>now they're getting mad because you're saying yes, sir. Now

0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:11.480
<v Speaker 1>they're mad because you you you're complying to all they commands,

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 1>so they get they still get mad. So you you're

0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the no win situation as it DoD said. No, you're

0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:24.919
<v Speaker 1>already in a no win situation. So I mean, you

0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:28.040
<v Speaker 1>know we came in, we came in with it. But

0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like you said earlier, at some point people

0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:34.840
<v Speaker 1>wanted to get up and fight because man, it's wrong.

0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:38.520
<v Speaker 1>And shooting a man with no gun, no drugs in

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:41.080
<v Speaker 1>his system, what is your excuse for shooting him that

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:46.040
<v Speaker 1>many times? I mean you you chopped him down pretty much.

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:50.680
<v Speaker 1>That's man slaughters. They slaughtered that man man slaughtered. He

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:55.680
<v Speaker 1>was executed. That was execution. That's what they used to

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<v Speaker 1>do back in the days. Tell you to a tree

0:23:57.600 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and just have target package that you had. That's what

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 1>that was. Yeah, that's what it was for sure. And

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:06.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, James, me and you both have we both

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:10.440
<v Speaker 1>have fairly young sons, you know, right, we have young men.

0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 1>And um, I'm gonna tell you, and I'll be honest

0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:16.159
<v Speaker 1>with you. My son is home from camp now, all right.

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 1>He leaves back Monday, and I'll tell you I would

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 1>be glad when he goes back because every time he's

0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:23.920
<v Speaker 1>not at home, I'm scared. And I'm not scared because

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:26.560
<v Speaker 1>of something he goes. I'm scared because of the police

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 1>and the number of many things that can happen him,

0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 1>because statistically he's a target. Well, I'm gonna tell you this.

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 1>It don't only happen in California. These two cases we're

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 1>talking about now didn't happen here. This is all across

0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:47.119
<v Speaker 1>the goddamn world. This is all in the United States.

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:50.920
<v Speaker 1>This is this is happening everywhere. So no matter where

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 1>he goes. It could be Pittsburgh, Denberg, it doesn't matter.

0:24:57.200 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 1>You got this same ship going on everywhere. You know,

0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 1>we sit there and talk about it and then we

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:06.160
<v Speaker 1>complain about what we're gonna do. What we're gonna do.

0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:10.560
<v Speaker 1>They're killing us. They're killing us. Man, First, we need

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:14.919
<v Speaker 1>to get together. Secondly, the second they need to stop.

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 1>We kill each other more than anybody else has ever

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 1>killed or killing, period. But we complain when it's the

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:25.600
<v Speaker 1>police doing it and all this other ship. We ain't

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:30.960
<v Speaker 1>complaining about gang violence and how many motherfuckers die just

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 1>just this fourth of July, how many people would kill

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's crazy. Let's stop crying and holland wolfing

0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 1>ship and and stop the gang ship these killings out here,

0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and then you can go and talk and say stop

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:51.680
<v Speaker 1>killing us, but we gotta stop doing it to ourselves first. Dog.

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:55.440
<v Speaker 1>People don't understand. Man, this ship is bigger and it's

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna get worser as as the years go by. Oh

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:01.879
<v Speaker 1>for sure. You know what. I see it, and I

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 1>don't see it slowing down. You remember, we just we

0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:07.800
<v Speaker 1>just had all of marching and stuff going on. We

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:10.719
<v Speaker 1>just had all this going on, this like a perpetual cycle.

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:14.199
<v Speaker 1>You did what I'm saying, it's the same stuff that

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>keeps happening repeatedly. And the thing that really pisses me, Oh,

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 1>changes that we have no respect for ourselves. If you

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:24.400
<v Speaker 1>look at you know, you look at all this stuff

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not you know, we're not big talking about

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:28.920
<v Speaker 1>people on this show, you know, mixing people's names. People

0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:30.440
<v Speaker 1>are free to do what they want to do. But

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 1>we have everybody online out man, you would think that

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 1>this would be national headline news. You know, a man

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:41.879
<v Speaker 1>got shot in the wheelchair, shot that many times? Right?

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Um the stuff and O how you know the shooting

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:47.359
<v Speaker 1>in Ohio, the Akron Ohiwer shooting me as a national incident?

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Now is the worldwide incident? You know? Um, those guys

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>are gonna go to jail. Those police officers are gonna

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 1>get They're gonna get charged. I believe. I think they're

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:57.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna go to jail for this because there are too

0:26:57.640 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 1>many people talking about this. There's too many people talking

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 1>about this. The government is getting involved in everything else,

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 1>U know. They said that. The legal team representing the

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>family said, the medical Examines report confirms the violent and

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 1>unnecessary use of force by the act and Police Department

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>on an unarmed young man who is the family expected,

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 1>was not under the influence of drugs and alcohol. He

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't have nothing his system James, and I don't think

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 1>this man was running. I don't think he was running

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 1>because you pulled him all over at the point. I

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 1>think that's cap for them to say, oh, he was

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 1>trying to evade the rest. But what It don't sound

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:34.679
<v Speaker 1>like the man had a record. It don't sound like

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:37.720
<v Speaker 1>he had no criminal record. He wasn't drinking, He wasn't

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't trump, They had no excuse. It sounds like

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>this is just a thing. And I've told you change.

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Some of this stuff sounds really personal, even with this

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 1>this boy on the highway. Yeah, it sounds personal. They

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 1>mowed that key down, man, Yeah they did. They mowed

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 1>him down. You know, I'll tell you this. It couldn't

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 1>be my son, couldn't be my matphew, couldn't be remember

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:10.360
<v Speaker 1>mind without me losing my mind. That's a yeah, that's

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 1>a different which called different conversation. But you know, just

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 1>like with his family, they expect you to keep a

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:25.639
<v Speaker 1>level head. I would be fucked up because of the

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 1>times how many times y'all shot him, just like the

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 1>guy in the wheelchair. Did you have to shoot him

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 1>nine times? He's in a wheelchair, and who gets shot

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>forty something times? At some point you stop, you give up.

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 1>You know what that means, James, That means they were

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>all back there literally execute this man. That's like a

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>firing squad. You got five or six cops just shooting

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 1>next year, four or six times. Thank you. You's a

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 1>fire squad. You ain't no ch'all was manson you ain't

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>You ain't running for no murders or they gotta what's

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 1>called him a chip that such and such was they

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>behind him that he's known for carrying guns? I mean,

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>what is the motive? What? What? What? Even if you

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>got him pulled over at this point, at what point

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>did you say, come on, let's just cap this motherfucker?

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Everybody shooting? What started? Well? I will say this, this

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 1>is what they did find. A gunshot residue test was

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>not performed on Walker. The middle of the medical examiner

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 1>said the police accused him of firing what appeared to

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>be a gunshot out of the window. Right. They did

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>find a gun in his car later, but the police

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>said he was not armed when he was killed. You

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>you're allowed to have a gun in your car. That's

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 1>his excuse right there. And they said that the tests

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 1>were not conclusive as to whether the person deer that

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:04.719
<v Speaker 1>did not fire a weapon. So see that not conclusive.

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Ship is a dangerous word because more than likely he

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't fire the weaponcase he need to fire the weapon,

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>they've been able to tell the listic tests, you know,

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>specially right then it ain't too long after Yeah, so yeah,

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 1>it would have still been on his hand fresh as

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>a month. Yeah, so they didn't find no, so he

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't fire his gun, James, I'm a legal firearm on

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 1>I own a gun legally, right. I can transport my

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 1>gun in my car as long as I don't have

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 1>as long as I don't have it loaded. If my

0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 1>gun is in the if my gun is in my

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 1>trunk and my clippers in my box, yeah, I can

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 1>ride a while I with my gun. I'm not a

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 1>threat to nobody, what matter. If I'm not the flash,

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not Superman. I can't go as simple as in

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 1>two seconds and be ready for action. You can't do

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>nothing if you got a gun in your trunk and

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>the clipping your um driver. See, you asked out pretty

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 1>much of something happening. But I've been in this situation

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:02.239
<v Speaker 1>a couple of shootings, and the first thing they do

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 1>is put bags on my hands, over my hands, they

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>cover my hands, put them in the bag, and and

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 1>and tie the bag so they can do that chest

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 1>so you don't try to rub it off or nothing

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 1>like that. So if if if that man fired, is

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 1>shot and they shot him, shot him dead, they're still

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>supposed to put the bags on his hands just to

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 1>secure that because that's evidence to make sure it ain't

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>no blood. And I mean, they didn't do that. I

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know if they did or didn't do it, but

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>that's one of the things that they do. I know

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>they do that out of here. It might not be

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 1>one of these procedures you know, across the world, but

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, it just don't make no sense for men

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>to lose his life by the police shooting him for

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>the sometimes well what they did was the United Nations

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>is the involved now. The UN, the actually UN is

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 1>involved now and they're investigating this. Um. These guys are

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna do to jail. They're gonna go to jail because

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what, this can't be ba this is too big.

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>It can't be breasted up under the rug. Because one

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>of the things I'm tired of is I'm seeing tired.

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm tired of people not being here accountable for what

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>they do. Right, They need to go to jail. James.

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>You know this family, I don't care if they get

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 1>a trillion dollars. Money doesn't cure the loss of a

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 1>young one. Can't brandy back, They can't bring it back.

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Those people are gonna be sucked up for a long time.

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Their lives will never be the same again. That's definitely

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 1>one you that you never forget for these Sometimes that's

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>man that's overkilled. And you know, unless you have some

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 1>set it off. Queen the teeth of ship, get out

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 1>with your OOSI blazing, man, I can see it. But

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 1>if you ain't died with that pistol right there in

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>your hand and they got you right there, ain't no

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 1>sense of that. Ain't no sense of it. So but

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>who with mine? You know what I'm saying? Six times? Man?

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever been shut up by the police? James? No, No,

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't ran a lot. I didn't and and like

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I said, I've been I didn't have the bags put

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>on my hands at least three times. And knowing this,

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>they don't put guns on me many many times. Thank

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 1>god they didn't shoot me. I haven't been shot. I

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 1>have resisted a whole bunch of times. Reggie can tell

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>you that, Um, you know, a bunch you had to

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 1>put help them put me in the car one time

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 1>in my house. You know, I just wouldn't go on

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>fulk y'all. Huh he was cutting up. Yeah, I was

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>on one and you know, our to thinking or feeling

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 1>like they're gonna they're gonna do something to me. He

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:08.879
<v Speaker 1>hopped from the other side of the police car, off

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the passenger side, hopping the back seat and pulling me

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>by my waist, my belt and help them bend me

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 1>in the car. And I'm up right like motherfucker's I ain't.

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I ain't getting in this motherfucker and took me to jail.

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:29.760
<v Speaker 1>So I've been in that situation. The shares different stories.

0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I'd have been slapped the ship out of I'd have

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:36.720
<v Speaker 1>been beat up with the stick, you know that, getting

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 1>called three four o'clock in the morning out there nobody

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>out there. We didn't have no phones where we were

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.759
<v Speaker 1>video on them. So pretty much everything they did to

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:51.440
<v Speaker 1>us back then, tempt to ask whoopen to keep it pushing.

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Ain't no filing and complain of none of that. Other

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 1>bulls shit. So going into that substation and going back

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 1>to the game module, I mean they as they whipped

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 1>that ass when they wanted to, and it ain't that

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 1>you can do about it, but accepted, you know what

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So two different stations, they had two different

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 1>ways and handle their business doing what they had to do. Compton,

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:20.319
<v Speaker 1>I was more, It was more easier. I was more

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 1>quick to kiss my motherfucking ass and come on the porch.

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I beat the ship out you opposed to telling the

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Shares that okay, we'renna catch you. And they catch you

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:37.879
<v Speaker 1>out there that midnight and they whipped that ass. Oh

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>oh you ain't talking ship now? Well I came a man, cup,

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:44.839
<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about? Sh Shares is low key.

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 1>The most violent ones will take your life, will take

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:51.399
<v Speaker 1>your life. Yeah, I told you about when they caught

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 1>me and they caught me on Atlantic one time they

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 1>caught you in Atlantic, man and tore my escalator up, man,

0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 1>tore my whole car up, toward the baby seat, off

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 1>the back, toward my speakers, up, to all my stuff

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:04.839
<v Speaker 1>and told me have a good night, left for all

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 1>the ground, said have a good night, and was laughing

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 1>on the way out people, damn, And I'm man, I

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 1>felt like a little hole, James asked, with your badge number.

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 1>That's all I could do. I couldn't do nothing. I

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 1>just got pumped and that's all it is. So I

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't look at it like like, I mean, they're the

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 1>only ones that can do that to you. The average

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 1>month bucker that walk up to you can't do that.

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:32.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, that's what I'm saying. You're pretty much getting pumped, right,

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:35.399
<v Speaker 1>So I mean you accept that ship just like every

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 1>other monthucking. Any anybody else say that they didn't accept that,

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's don't let me rephrase that. It's a lot

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 1>of cats that fought back or bought the police. But

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, you ain't been to win.

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 1>You ain't winning none of us. Oh no, if you

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 1>you're fighting, losing better, Oh yeah all the time. So

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:04.399
<v Speaker 1>it's some cats like Compton Police, like myself that we're

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to fight. But when you're fucking with them,

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:12.319
<v Speaker 1>shares them, shares, wasn't playing them. Shares will let you

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.719
<v Speaker 1>go and kill your mother, it would you. You'll be

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:25.799
<v Speaker 1>you'll get caught off down new tracks and you don't

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 1>have no I tell my sons. Right before my son

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 1>started driving, James, I gave them all the same thing,

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:36.279
<v Speaker 1>all my kids, I gave the same speech. Right, you

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:39.720
<v Speaker 1>cannot win the battle with the police department, right or wrong.

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Shut the funk up, get your ticket and go home.

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Make it on if you get to be in combative

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 1>and argument argumentative because see, I'm gonna tell you, I

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:53.759
<v Speaker 1>see white folks, because police the funk out, police the

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:55.399
<v Speaker 1>funk out. And it's the funniest ship in the world

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:57.879
<v Speaker 1>to me, Why the fund are you pulling me over?

0:37:58.320 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I have no do this hurry if I write me

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 1>a fucking ticket, ball and ticket up. They talk all

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:04.800
<v Speaker 1>kinds of ship. They're getting them the thirds and everything else.

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:07.319
<v Speaker 1>If it's one of us, we get the Philly Club?

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Was he? White people are comfortable with white people. We

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 1>we funked up when we sunk up bad is we

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:21.880
<v Speaker 1>complain at the wrong time in the wrong place. We

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>were complained in the dark galley, opposed to complaining up

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>under the light or in the daytime of whatever the

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:32.240
<v Speaker 1>case might be. Then how do you prepare your kids

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:36.799
<v Speaker 1>or situation? When the situation happens, all that ship go

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:41.800
<v Speaker 1>out the window. Man, I was talking listen to the police,

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 1>or don't do this or don't do that. But as

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:47.799
<v Speaker 1>soon as you get or interact with the police, all

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 1>of that ship is gone. It is totally different, because,

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>like I was saying earlier, you might run into a

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 1>good cop that say, I ain't here to violate. Ain't

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:01.919
<v Speaker 1>hearing this? Why you give me a hard time? Y'all?

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>To y'all, all I want to do is go home

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 1>to my family. Or you might get that one that

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:11.919
<v Speaker 1>just what the fuck is wrong with stupid fucker and

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 1>that that's gonna say ship to piss you off. Yeah,

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:20.839
<v Speaker 1>And that's not it, James. This just happened right A

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 1>mental health call turns into deadly police shooting of armed man.

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>See he was armed. This guy was armed. Right here,

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 1>a man was severely heard after being shot by Phoenix

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:34.279
<v Speaker 1>police on Tuesday, July nineteenth, the department says, following a

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 1>call for a mental health crisis. The unidentified man died

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 1>hours later. Police confirmed the shooting happened on July nineteenth

0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 1>near a hundred and eleventh Avenue and Camelback Road. This

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 1>is in Arizona, when a man reportedly had a crisis

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:49.360
<v Speaker 1>at an impatient mental health facility get at home and

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:52.920
<v Speaker 1>was making suicidal threats. He says. The manager of the

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 1>facility called the police, saying the man was making threats

0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 1>against staff and towards himself to jump out of a

0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 1>window and the cut himself. Officers are I have and

0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 1>begin talking with him, but then they say he pulled

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:04.839
<v Speaker 1>a knife out of his pocket and again getting close

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 1>to them. He was told to stop and drop the

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:10.240
<v Speaker 1>knife several times, but he continued. One of the officers

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:13.319
<v Speaker 1>involved head used his taster towards the man, striking him

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 1>o arbor. The taster was ineffective. The man continued advancing

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:19.240
<v Speaker 1>toward officers with the knife steal in his hand. Bober

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>said it was at this point that the officer involved

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 1>shooting took place. Medical aid was given to the man.

0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 1>He was taken to the hospital and critical condition and

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 1>died not long after. The man hasn't been identified, but

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:32.800
<v Speaker 1>he is said to be a man in his early twenties.

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:36.279
<v Speaker 1>Barras says it appears two officers were directly involved in

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 1>the shooting, one using the taster and the other using

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the gun. Crisis and Adventure Team officers and mobile crisis

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:44.920
<v Speaker 1>teams were called out to the scene, but the shooting

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 1>took place before they got there the investigation zone. Going,

0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 1>this is another situation. You're two professional police officers, your professionals,

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you've been trained in situations like this. This is a

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 1>man with a knife. Don't get me wrong. I me

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 1>and you both know some dangerous individuals with knives, right,

0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:08.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, I know some guys that got knives that

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 1>don't took down people had guns before. So a knife

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 1>is a dangerous thing. But did you have to shoot

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 1>the kill You couldn't shoot him in his leg? How

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 1>does the taste or not work? Like, I don't think

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:23.600
<v Speaker 1>these people. I think the gun is they first resort.

0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Almost James and I'm not you know, I see both sides.

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not expecting because you know a lot of people

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:33.399
<v Speaker 1>sit out there and say, oh, well he just had

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 1>a knife. You could have took them down. But like

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I said, I know people that are dangerous with knives

0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 1>and and and and let's just be honest all across

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:48.479
<v Speaker 1>the board. Some situations that police get in, they don't

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:52.560
<v Speaker 1>have a choice. M Here, you got the man that's

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 1>mental out of his mind and young and said probably

0:41:57.360 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 1>could have did a lot of damage. He ain't understanding it. Yeah,

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 1>he don't. He all he sees what he sees. So

0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, every situation, like I just told you, a justified.

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:16.399
<v Speaker 1>Some of them are justified. If you got a man

0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 1>coming at you know him, and you gotta piston and

0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you keep bagging up and that man keep coming kicking

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 1>you know who he's been aduced, I am not gonna

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 1>hesitate out of blew him down to see. No, but

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:31.840
<v Speaker 1>a minute ago you said that they had to shoot

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:37.279
<v Speaker 1>the kills sometimes. Yeah, and see listening to you talk

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 1>about this way, this one, they may not have had

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:42.960
<v Speaker 1>a choice, right, they may not have had a choice,

0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:46.520
<v Speaker 1>because I'm thinking about like people I know in my family.

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I know some dangerous motherfucker's James Man, I got an

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:55.440
<v Speaker 1>uncle that it took people down with guns before James.

0:42:55.640 --> 0:43:00.439
<v Speaker 1>If you shoure when he's get a hesitation, I don't

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 1>see it, just that quick just being falling around everything else.

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:09.399
<v Speaker 1>You you you do you believe that police they are human? Right? Yeah,

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:13.080
<v Speaker 1>of course they they think like we think. Just because

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 1>they got a badge don't mean that they ain't no

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:19.360
<v Speaker 1>pussies on the police force. That they all militant with

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:22.839
<v Speaker 1>the business and ready to uh m m a any

0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:27.360
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker that comes they come across, ain't the case. You

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of wimp motherfucker's a lot of WIMPs.

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:35.440
<v Speaker 1>A lot of police officers become police officers because of

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 1>the authority, because they can do this what people did

0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:42.280
<v Speaker 1>to them. You know what I'm saying. They can bully

0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 1>you now opposed to being bullied, so they become police.

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 1>You have a lot of police out there that that

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:53.719
<v Speaker 1>just ain't going to go for it. They got a

0:43:53.840 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 1>complex out of this world. So it's this is crazy,

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:04.439
<v Speaker 1>and then it takes us into something different, something way

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:07.959
<v Speaker 1>for what we're talking about. So when police get out there,

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:12.799
<v Speaker 1>they're just as scared as anybody else, man, And that's

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:15.440
<v Speaker 1>why some of them pull the trigger so goddamn fast,

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:20.840
<v Speaker 1>because they're scared. Everything goes out of this out of

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:25.439
<v Speaker 1>their brain. They just like us, man. They get butterflies

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:30.319
<v Speaker 1>and they panic when they're in that situation. So all

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 1>of them ain't gonna gonna don't react like like like

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 1>a normal man would when they you know, some shit happened,

0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. They get in a situation, bam,

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 1>they react the way they truly are, and some of

0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 1>them panic, Bro, they don't you know you got something

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 1>out there that to take that stick off and that

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:54.600
<v Speaker 1>that that felt and fight your ass. You want to fight,

0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:56.319
<v Speaker 1>I fight you. They some of them think a whole

0:44:56.360 --> 0:45:01.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of them okay, So it ain't meant they're just

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 1>like us. They're scared when motherfucker's walk out that door.

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:08.439
<v Speaker 1>They don't know if they're coming home because they're gonna

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:12.080
<v Speaker 1>run into a cat that ain't playing with them. And

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 1>that's just gonna you. You could be cool and come

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:17.320
<v Speaker 1>and talking to somebody, the next thing you know, he

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 1>pull out a pistol and blow your pucking brains out.

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:26.239
<v Speaker 1>So is they occupation dangerous? Yeah, But to get up

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:28.640
<v Speaker 1>in the morning with something on your mind already being

0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 1>piste off and bringing that to work such a job

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:36.080
<v Speaker 1>as their's, then that's where they sunk up at, you

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. Then when you handle a situation

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:44.560
<v Speaker 1>and that situation go big, they you know, nine times

0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:48.239
<v Speaker 1>out of ten, they ain't expecting that, and now they

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to act. They don't know how to

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:54.399
<v Speaker 1>react to that situation. So they just like us, man,

0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 1>they have the same feelings and emotions that that everybody

0:45:57.680 --> 0:46:01.160
<v Speaker 1>else do. They just got the gun, the badge, and

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:04.719
<v Speaker 1>they think everybody is supposed to listen to them. But

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 1>when you don't pay attention to him and don't listen

0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 1>to him, that's when you see. They used to be

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:13.799
<v Speaker 1>bullied because now they just get the job. Now they

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:16.400
<v Speaker 1>get careless with their job. Bro, That's all you have

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:20.839
<v Speaker 1>out here, and people have that dealt with the police everybody.

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:24.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm quite sure everybody would agree with me. They just

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:28.200
<v Speaker 1>they just do Yeah for real? What that third one

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:30.880
<v Speaker 1>was kind of fifty fifty with me because I'm still saying,

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:34.640
<v Speaker 1>if you're a police officer, James, you should be trained.

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I think we need more training, probably better training because

0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:41.919
<v Speaker 1>you know this last one, you know, and things about

0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:44.799
<v Speaker 1>the behind sight, this kind of thinking about you, man

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 1>is crazy and he probably you know the person crazy.

0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:51.560
<v Speaker 1>They they can you know, you can have a difficult

0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:53.640
<v Speaker 1>situation on hand with a young like you said, the

0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 1>dude it's twenty years old. Young and fifth because I

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:58.319
<v Speaker 1>was looking at my son other day and I thought

0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:00.319
<v Speaker 1>about it. I was talking to him, said I still

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:02.880
<v Speaker 1>your asked I thought about I said, this is motherfucking shape.

0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I might have heard him if we get him to it,

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:07.399
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Because he's just shafey young.

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna be to test it with him for

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:12.399
<v Speaker 1>no long time, So I mean that. I mean, that's

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 1>just all it is, bro is. You know, you got

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:19.759
<v Speaker 1>a young cat. He's mentally killed and not think right,

0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:24.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's just fucking And I noticed because I have

0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 1>an uncle, My uncle Rabbit is like like he can

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:32.560
<v Speaker 1>go from tyrial to a huney and don't wouldn't give

0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:35.640
<v Speaker 1>a fuck, you know what I'm saying. When he wouldn't

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 1>on his man's and all that tip you can't tell

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:44.080
<v Speaker 1>rab ship can't something else. Yeah, So, like I said,

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:52.360
<v Speaker 1>some sometimes it's justified, and you understand why they did it.

0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:55.920
<v Speaker 1>They didn't have a choice, you know what I'm saying.

0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:59.279
<v Speaker 1>So so we gotta look at it. What if we

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:02.360
<v Speaker 1>was in a position that the young man was in.

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Did he deserve to be shot that many times? No,

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:10.880
<v Speaker 1>regardless of what, uh, unless he running at them guns

0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 1>are blazing shoot back, because that's the first thing they

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:16.759
<v Speaker 1>want to say, Well, he did have a gun in

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:19.800
<v Speaker 1>the car, what he didn't shoot the gun? Having a

0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:23.719
<v Speaker 1>gun don't mean they don't mean nothing. I don't mean

0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:26.160
<v Speaker 1>the damn thing, especially if you're riding within the parameters

0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:30.640
<v Speaker 1>of the law. You know. So Ever, dimly, man, nothing

0:48:30.680 --> 0:48:32.920
<v Speaker 1>has changed too much. The police are still doing what

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 1>they're doing. And I don't see I don't see this

0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:39.120
<v Speaker 1>getting better no time soon. I don't see nothing changing.

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the same thing. You know. We get mad,

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:45.000
<v Speaker 1>we get upset, we march and tear up stuff, but

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:46.759
<v Speaker 1>then we're right back to the same thing. You know,

0:48:46.800 --> 0:48:49.719
<v Speaker 1>a day later, somebody else is doing something well, basically

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the way that just say, like, if you're imprission, we

0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:57.480
<v Speaker 1>find a way the light of match when they took

0:48:57.520 --> 0:49:01.040
<v Speaker 1>distigrettes and matches, we found a way to get them

0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:06.080
<v Speaker 1>cigarettes and to light them cigarettes. They're gonna find a

0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:09.919
<v Speaker 1>way just to do it different so they don't get

0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:13.040
<v Speaker 1>caught up with it. They find a way everything changes, Bro,

0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 1>and them knowing that the body cam and people taking

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:23.160
<v Speaker 1>pictures and people got their cameras out everywhere, they just

0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:28.120
<v Speaker 1>gotta approach it different. But sometimes they don't think because

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:31.000
<v Speaker 1>when you're eating and got your mindset for something, it's

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:36.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen. That's real. And I'm telling you, man, they

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:39.880
<v Speaker 1>are no different from us. Bro. They think like we

0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:44.600
<v Speaker 1>think they're no different from a gang member, some of them,

0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:46.840
<v Speaker 1>the ones that out there like that. If they hate you,

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:50.120
<v Speaker 1>they hate you. If it's a gang like me, I

0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 1>talked ship, and because the police out all my fucking day,

0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:56.719
<v Speaker 1>you didn't think them police said wait till we catch

0:49:56.760 --> 0:49:59.960
<v Speaker 1>his motherfucking at and when that when I got cold slip,

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:03.160
<v Speaker 1>and I got cold slipped, and they whooped that adds

0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:07.080
<v Speaker 1>but they didn't and and well I don't know how

0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:13.680
<v Speaker 1>they did, because one time I declined, uh, total total graves.

0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to talk to him no more. So

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:17.839
<v Speaker 1>Greg said, what did you say? I said, I don't

0:50:17.840 --> 0:50:21.839
<v Speaker 1>want to talk no more, and uh, that motherfucker hauled

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:23.719
<v Speaker 1>off and slapped and ship out of me. Now Greg

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:30.759
<v Speaker 1>was the least three fort big, motherfucking white boy. And

0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:35.560
<v Speaker 1>they came from another somewhere else, another division to handle

0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:39.720
<v Speaker 1>the game unit. And when that mother that motherfucker slapped

0:50:39.719 --> 0:50:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the ship out of me, my eyes stayed watery for

0:50:41.960 --> 0:50:47.439
<v Speaker 1>about two days. Two days this when they was doing

0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:51.720
<v Speaker 1>first started cops and wanted us to do the cops

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:54.680
<v Speaker 1>around the neighborhood and and and and all that ship.

0:50:54.760 --> 0:50:57.960
<v Speaker 1>This is when the first came out even on the

0:50:58.040 --> 0:51:01.520
<v Speaker 1>jail bus. Even in the kind jail they send back

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<v Speaker 1>chatting talking about you know, funk their vives and fuck

0:51:04.719 --> 0:51:08.279
<v Speaker 1>they you know, got called cheating and whatever. They bring

0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:12.080
<v Speaker 1>that ship to their job, man, like we would go

0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:14.640
<v Speaker 1>at that. You know, I brought they want to funk,

0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:18.320
<v Speaker 1>want to do something, and we arguing and called me cheating.

0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I get up, through my clothes on and lead a house.

0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking that argument outside with me. Now I'm fissed off.

0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm ready to take my frustration out on somebody else.

0:51:30.520 --> 0:51:33.960
<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing we have here every day. Everything

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:38.240
<v Speaker 1>that we do, it plays itself back, back and forth,

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:40.840
<v Speaker 1>over and over again. It's like rewinding the video tape

0:51:40.840 --> 0:51:45.640
<v Speaker 1>for old school man. That's all you got here. Half

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:49.120
<v Speaker 1>of the situations they say they fix, why we didn't

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:53.760
<v Speaker 1>fix certain things when it doesn't happen so many multiple

0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:59.240
<v Speaker 1>times the same way. The only thing I can think of, James,

0:51:59.400 --> 0:52:03.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've been in Japan maybe six times right

0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:06.920
<v Speaker 1>right now. They have guns in Japan. Don't get a twisted.

0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:08.880
<v Speaker 1>They have guns in Japan. You know that they have

0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:13.200
<v Speaker 1>access to guns, right, but the average beat police officer

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:15.400
<v Speaker 1>in Japan is not walking with a gun. They just

0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:18.040
<v Speaker 1>gotta stick and taser and a couple other things, right,

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:21.719
<v Speaker 1>no gun violence, and they are very efficient. I've seen

0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:25.759
<v Speaker 1>police officers in Japan take people down with no problem.

0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Tell about people with nives, bottles, everything, you know, they

0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:31.200
<v Speaker 1>took them down. I saw a girl take a guy down,

0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:33.319
<v Speaker 1>a pretty nice sized dude down when I was out

0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:37.319
<v Speaker 1>in Tokyo. She locked him up and did something some

0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:39.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of marshall lost stuff, locked him up, he was

0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 1>on the ground. She put the cuffs on them. She

0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:43.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a problem. Her male partner was there doing

0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:45.080
<v Speaker 1>the paper work. He took them down like it was nothing.

0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:47.759
<v Speaker 1>You know. So I think they're I think they may

0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:50.480
<v Speaker 1>be better trained out there than we are here because

0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:53.040
<v Speaker 1>they don't have guns. I know their hand in hand

0:52:53.080 --> 0:52:55.520
<v Speaker 1>combat skill is a lot better. But you see the

0:52:55.520 --> 0:52:57.640
<v Speaker 1>average cop out here, James the dude. A lot of

0:52:57.640 --> 0:53:01.839
<v Speaker 1>these guys out of shape, A lot of you, man,

0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:06.440
<v Speaker 1>what can you they are? They out of shape? You

0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:08.960
<v Speaker 1>know you're figured you got you got a fifty sixty

0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:11.600
<v Speaker 1>year old man, it's a cop, right. He run across

0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:14.120
<v Speaker 1>the year old cat. That cat to go to the

0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:17.560
<v Speaker 1>gym every morning, in shape, young, full of piston vinegar.

0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:19.360
<v Speaker 1>He could whoop that ass. Y'all get him to it.

0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:21.759
<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna have the stamina to billy ain't with him.

0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:24.920
<v Speaker 1>You probably got good One minute after that woman is up,

0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:27.399
<v Speaker 1>your must gonna start locking the phone. You're gonna start

0:53:27.400 --> 0:53:30.000
<v Speaker 1>getting fatigued. And that's when he go get in that ass.

0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:35.320
<v Speaker 1>But what training do they get to get on the

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:37.040
<v Speaker 1>and then they get on the force and get a

0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:43.319
<v Speaker 1>police card. Uh pounds, two hundred and nine pounds, Big

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:47.880
<v Speaker 1>old fat men, fat women, big old fat white women.

0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:53.520
<v Speaker 1>They can't do the job they supposed to. No, they're not.

0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:55.640
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I'm telling you. It's a big difference. Name.

0:53:55.719 --> 0:54:00.120
<v Speaker 1>Seeing those people in Japan, those police officers, they were

0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:03.520
<v Speaker 1>very efficient at their jobs. They were nice to people.

0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:06.839
<v Speaker 1>They weren't rude, but they meant business. I saw this

0:54:06.880 --> 0:54:09.400
<v Speaker 1>man in Tokyo had a big knife, and I'm not

0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:11.319
<v Speaker 1>talking about a little knife, James. He had a bone

0:54:11.360 --> 0:54:15.040
<v Speaker 1>crushing that lady. The way she took him down, it

0:54:15.160 --> 0:54:17.680
<v Speaker 1>was like she was strange. She was up, knife fell

0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:20.280
<v Speaker 1>on the ground up next thing, you know, on the ground.

0:54:21.000 --> 0:54:23.719
<v Speaker 1>Right when I was in what you called them, they

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:30.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't carry the police didn't carry guns either. And people

0:54:30.440 --> 0:54:35.280
<v Speaker 1>are so different. People are so different. And the people,

0:54:35.520 --> 0:54:38.720
<v Speaker 1>even when they got drunk and I raped, the police

0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:41.360
<v Speaker 1>knew how to handle that. You know what I'm saying.

0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:44.319
<v Speaker 1>It was some cash that we was hanging that I

0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:46.680
<v Speaker 1>was hanging with out there. They never seen a gun,

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:51.759
<v Speaker 1>never own one. The way they lived and the way

0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:54.800
<v Speaker 1>we live with something totally different. It's way different. And

0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know at this point that may be just

0:54:57.680 --> 0:54:59.840
<v Speaker 1>a pipe dream to say that maybe we should disarm

0:54:59.880 --> 0:55:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I police in America. We may have real problems then

0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:05.000
<v Speaker 1>because you've always got the element of the streets. Oh hell,

0:55:05.080 --> 0:55:07.280
<v Speaker 1>it's too late to do that, because too many people

0:55:07.360 --> 0:55:09.960
<v Speaker 1>have done Yeah, too many people. And you know what,

0:55:10.120 --> 0:55:13.240
<v Speaker 1>James and I keep saying this, It ain't the guns.

0:55:13.239 --> 0:55:16.000
<v Speaker 1>It's the man behind the motherfucking gun. All the time.

0:55:16.480 --> 0:55:19.640
<v Speaker 1>It's the man behind the gun. But we definitely go

0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:21.759
<v Speaker 1>continue on this path. Man, I kind of want to

0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:27.319
<v Speaker 1>keep talking about man police and police reform and what

0:55:27.360 --> 0:55:28.880
<v Speaker 1>are we gonna do. Maybe we can come open some

0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:33.680
<v Speaker 1>solutions on this show properly. Who knows well, I mean,

0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:37.399
<v Speaker 1>if everybody listening to everybody's you know, and then paying

0:55:37.440 --> 0:55:40.239
<v Speaker 1>attention to commentions like that, and it gets to a

0:55:40.320 --> 0:55:43.400
<v Speaker 1>place where we can make change, then that's what we

0:55:43.400 --> 0:55:43.879
<v Speaker 1>should do.