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Speaker 1: We like to welcome everyone to another episode of the

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Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles podcast and move my dog. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: here about the police shooting a lot of people. You know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes it's proper. Sometimes they're justin, you know, shooting somebody.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, more often than not. Unfortunately, um, they

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Speaker 1: don't have to use the excessive for us. They do

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Speaker 1: as we see recently a new thing. You know, they

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Speaker 1: shot a man in Arizona that was in the wheelchair.

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Speaker 1: Brother that was in the wheelchair got shot, right, Um,

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Speaker 1: I guess this just happened on the Two Sign Police

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Speaker 1: Department is officially terminated. The cup who killed a disabled man,

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Speaker 1: shooting the wheelchair bound sixty one year old man nine

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Speaker 1: times in the back and side. This is a guy

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Speaker 1: in a wheelchair now. The killing took place the end

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Speaker 1: of November in a big box shopping complex south of

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Speaker 1: downtown the Arizona City. A four year veteran of the

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Speaker 1: Two Sign Police Force, Ryan Remington, was working on a

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Speaker 1: special duty side shifted security for a wal Mart store.

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Speaker 1: They're a man named Richard Richards allegedly shot lifted the

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Speaker 1: two bucks as Richard rode up store in his red

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Speaker 1: mobility device and employee asked to see his receipt, and,

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Speaker 1: according to an account offered by the Tucson Police, Mr

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Speaker 1: richardson brandish and knife and said, here's your receipt. Officer

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Speaker 1: Remington's having observed it, encounter pursued Richards out of the

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Speaker 1: store and into the parking lot and a slow speed

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Speaker 1: chase on foot and the video released by the police,

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Speaker 1: Remington can be heard calling for backup a legend Richards

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Speaker 1: pulled a knife on. A second officer soon arrived on

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Speaker 1: the scene wearing a body camera. A scene on the

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Speaker 1: video from that device, Richards was ignoring Remington's orders and

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Speaker 1: rolling towards the injuries of a Lows Garden center. Remington shouted,

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Speaker 1: Remington suddenly opened fire at close range, shooting eight times

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Speaker 1: in rapid succession from behind the wheel chair before firing

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Speaker 1: a knife shot. After brief falls, Richards can then be

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Speaker 1: after so he pushed the man over in his wheel

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Speaker 1: check James dead lifeless body handcuffed them up and face

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Speaker 1: down on the ground straight. Disrespectful. Yeah, it was disrespectful,

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Speaker 1: and I imagine and it's not saying the guy in

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Speaker 1: the wheelchair was wrong for stealing, But there's no way

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Speaker 1: you can justify shooting him that many times. For shooting

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Speaker 1: him period, he was wheelchair bomb. When they just say,

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Speaker 1: for instance, I shot somebody, and I shot somebody multiple times,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna give me another case for the many times

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Speaker 1: that I shot that person. Uh, I forgot what they

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Speaker 1: call it, but I know somebody out there know what

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Speaker 1: it is. Excessive forces of motherfucker. But it don't apply

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Speaker 1: to them, but it applies to us. So what's the

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Speaker 1: fucking reason for shooting a handicapped man nine times? Even

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Speaker 1: even if you got a knife, you can't take that

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Speaker 1: knife from me. Where's their training that bro? Where's you

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Speaker 1: know you gotta have from that? You can't handicap man,

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Speaker 1: you don't need to be a police officer. Well that's

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Speaker 1: the thing, James, this guy's in a wheelchair. It's not

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Speaker 1: like you know, if it's a big burly guy, because

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Speaker 1: a guy with a knife can take you out. I

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Speaker 1: can see if it was a regular walking man with

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Speaker 1: from stab you. But um, from what I know, especially security,

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Speaker 1: once a person is in the parking lot, you're really

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Speaker 1: not supposed to pursue him anymore. He's gone already. Well

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Speaker 1: we're talking about a police officer though, right, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about the police officer. And this guy was evidently I

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Speaker 1: guess I'm doing some side work with wald March. You know,

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Speaker 1: he was out making him an extra few dollars, I

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Speaker 1: guess doing some security and wal Mark, and he just

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Speaker 1: kind of just took that way overboard. So what they're

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Speaker 1: him for doing it? Well? Here he deals right here.

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Speaker 1: Um to Sign. Mayor of Regina Ramero quickly blasted the

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Speaker 1: sling is unconsciousnes about and indefensible. In the press conference

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Speaker 1: the day after the shooting, to Sign, Police Chief Chris

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Speaker 1: magnus scoreated Remington. I am deeply troubled by Officer Remitton's actions,

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Speaker 1: he said. This use of deadly forced this incident is

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Speaker 1: the clear violation of department policy and directly contradicts multiple

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Speaker 1: surprised to see his next step being a lengthy sentience

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Speaker 1: I mean, it all depends on what you mean length

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Speaker 1: to you. For five years, he took a man life. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think the only way you can justify this because

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Speaker 1: nothing about the money. That really don't matter. So so

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Speaker 1: like incidents like this happened. This is what they should do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, every police officer to have to retrain because

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Speaker 1: you gotta be you gotta be trained for different situations

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Speaker 1: If you don't have anybody on the force that can

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Speaker 1: just out there acting already and really don't know what

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Speaker 1: they're doing. If you're not prepared to to to handle

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Speaker 1: a certain situation, then they shouldn't be called to the

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Speaker 1: scene for that type of ship. Everybody is not equipped

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Speaker 1: to do certain things. So somebody has to be equipped

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Speaker 1: to handle multi situation different ships. Man. So here you

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Speaker 1: and I'm not laughing, James, because I'm not laughing at

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem real. This man, the sixty one, you know,

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Speaker 1: not to mix the wheel chick changed the brother of

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Speaker 1: the sixty one years so right, he's not kicking up

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Speaker 1: is is you don't even have respect for life. You

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Speaker 1: you killed, you him out to chair after after the fact, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you said, and then one of the things that you

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Speaker 1: have to mix. And they say that after he shot

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Speaker 1: him the fifth time, there was a pause in between

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Speaker 1: it was a pause in between like he just looked

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Speaker 1: one more time and then just said and put the

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Speaker 1: he was, he was done. You shot the man nine

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Speaker 1: times in the back. What is he still a threat

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Speaker 1: That man wasn't threat the moment you saw him in

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Speaker 1: against corporates, wal Mart's corporate policy to go chasing people

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Speaker 1: know what, the grocery stores inside of those places are huge, right,

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Speaker 1: So you gotta figure it's somebody every five minutes stealing

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Speaker 1: pretty sure wal Mart already budgets that as a part

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Speaker 1: and say, okay, we go lose about a hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: with a tul box and we started shooting. Now, just

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Speaker 1: think about how dangerous that is for the shoppers that

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Speaker 1: You always go have people standing around seeing what's happening.

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Speaker 1: You out there shooting James. You don't know how easy

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Speaker 1: the loss of life at um T J Max or

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Speaker 1: something like that, maybe six months ago from that same thing.

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Speaker 1: and moves to their life. That was just irresponsible. That's

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Speaker 1: not I'm pretty sure that's not in the trend. Go

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Speaker 1: shooting somebody in the public place. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: They you gotta you gotta have some kind of order here.

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Speaker 1: a nice we got guns, we got tasers, they got

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Speaker 1: people exactly. Well, the way they're cracking down on police today,

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Speaker 1: We ain't gonna have no police officers because ain't nobody

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Speaker 1: gonna want to do the job. Um, they're not protecting

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Speaker 1: work with them. The majority of them do. Some don't

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Speaker 1: know how to separate family life. You know, your life

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Speaker 1: would definitely hope my brother and I think, um, I

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Speaker 1: You think it was personal. Yeah, I think it was

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Speaker 1: wanted to get up and fight because man, it's wrong.

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00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: And shooting a man with no gun, no drugs in

427
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: his system, what is your excuse for shooting him that

428
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: many times? I mean you you chopped him down pretty much.

429
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: That's man slaughters. They slaughtered that man man slaughtered. He

430
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: was executed. That was execution. That's what they used to

431
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: do back in the days. Tell you to a tree

432
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: and just have target package that you had. That's what

433
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: that was. Yeah, that's what it was for sure. And

434
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: you know, James, me and you both have we both

435
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: have fairly young sons, you know, right, we have young men.

436
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: And um, I'm gonna tell you, and I'll be honest

437
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: with you. My son is home from camp now, all right.

438
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: He leaves back Monday, and I'll tell you I would

439
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: be glad when he goes back because every time he's

440
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: not at home, I'm scared. And I'm not scared because

441
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: of something he goes. I'm scared because of the police

442
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: and the number of many things that can happen him,

443
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: because statistically he's a target. Well, I'm gonna tell you this.

444
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: It don't only happen in California. These two cases we're

445
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: talking about now didn't happen here. This is all across

446
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: the goddamn world. This is all in the United States.

447
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: This is this is happening everywhere. So no matter where

448
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: he goes. It could be Pittsburgh, Denberg, it doesn't matter.

449
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: You got this same ship going on everywhere. You know,

450
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: we sit there and talk about it and then we

451
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 1: complain about what we're gonna do. What we're gonna do.

452
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: They're killing us. They're killing us. Man, First, we need

453
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: to get together. Secondly, the second they need to stop.

454
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: We kill each other more than anybody else has ever

455
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: killed or killing, period. But we complain when it's the

456
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: police doing it and all this other ship. We ain't

457
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: complaining about gang violence and how many motherfuckers die just

458
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: just this fourth of July, how many people would kill

459
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: you know, it's crazy. Let's stop crying and holland wolfing

460
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: ship and and stop the gang ship these killings out here,

461
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: and then you can go and talk and say stop

462
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: killing us, but we gotta stop doing it to ourselves first. Dog.

463
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: People don't understand. Man, this ship is bigger and it's

464
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: gonna get worser as as the years go by. Oh

465
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: for sure. You know what. I see it, and I

466
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: don't see it slowing down. You remember, we just we

467
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: just had all of marching and stuff going on. We

468
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 1: just had all this going on, this like a perpetual cycle.

469
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: You did what I'm saying, it's the same stuff that

470
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: keeps happening repeatedly. And the thing that really pisses me, Oh,

471
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: changes that we have no respect for ourselves. If you

472
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: look at you know, you look at all this stuff

473
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: and I'm not you know, we're not big talking about

474
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: people on this show, you know, mixing people's names. People

475
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: are free to do what they want to do. But

476
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: we have everybody online out man, you would think that

477
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: this would be national headline news. You know, a man

478
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: got shot in the wheelchair, shot that many times? Right?

479
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: Um the stuff and O how you know the shooting

480
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: in Ohio, the Akron Ohiwer shooting me as a national incident?

481
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: Now is the worldwide incident? You know? Um, those guys

482
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: are gonna go to jail. Those police officers are gonna

483
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: get They're gonna get charged. I believe. I think they're

484
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: gonna go to jail for this because there are too

485
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: many people talking about this. There's too many people talking

486
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: about this. The government is getting involved in everything else,

487
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: U know. They said that. The legal team representing the

488
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: family said, the medical Examines report confirms the violent and

489
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: unnecessary use of force by the act and Police Department

490
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: on an unarmed young man who is the family expected,

491
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: was not under the influence of drugs and alcohol. He

492
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: didn't have nothing his system James, and I don't think

493
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: this man was running. I don't think he was running

494
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: because you pulled him all over at the point. I

495
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: think that's cap for them to say, oh, he was

496
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: trying to evade the rest. But what It don't sound

497
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: like the man had a record. It don't sound like

498
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: he had no criminal record. He wasn't drinking, He wasn't

499
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: he wasn't trump, They had no excuse. It sounds like

500
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: this is just a thing. And I've told you change.

501
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: Some of this stuff sounds really personal, even with this

502
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: this boy on the highway. Yeah, it sounds personal. They

503
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: mowed that key down, man, Yeah they did. They mowed

504
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: him down. You know, I'll tell you this. It couldn't

505
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: be my son, couldn't be my matphew, couldn't be remember

506
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 1: mind without me losing my mind. That's a yeah, that's

507
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: a different which called different conversation. But you know, just

508
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: like with his family, they expect you to keep a

509
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: level head. I would be fucked up because of the

510
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: times how many times y'all shot him, just like the

511
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: guy in the wheelchair. Did you have to shoot him

512
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: nine times? He's in a wheelchair, and who gets shot

513
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: forty something times? At some point you stop, you give up.

514
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: You know what that means, James, That means they were

515
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: all back there literally execute this man. That's like a

516
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: firing squad. You got five or six cops just shooting

517
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: next year, four or six times. Thank you. You's a

518
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: fire squad. You ain't no ch'all was manson you ain't

519
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: You ain't running for no murders or they gotta what's

520
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: called him a chip that such and such was they

521
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: behind him that he's known for carrying guns? I mean,

522
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: what is the motive? What? What? What? Even if you

523
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: got him pulled over at this point, at what point

524
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: did you say, come on, let's just cap this motherfucker?

525
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: Everybody shooting? What started? Well? I will say this, this

526
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: is what they did find. A gunshot residue test was

527
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: not performed on Walker. The middle of the medical examiner

528
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: said the police accused him of firing what appeared to

529
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: be a gunshot out of the window. Right. They did

530
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: find a gun in his car later, but the police

531
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: said he was not armed when he was killed. You

532
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: you're allowed to have a gun in your car. That's

533
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: his excuse right there. And they said that the tests

534
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: were not conclusive as to whether the person deer that

535
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 1: did not fire a weapon. So see that not conclusive.

536
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: Ship is a dangerous word because more than likely he

537
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: didn't fire the weaponcase he need to fire the weapon,

538
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: they've been able to tell the listic tests, you know,

539
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: specially right then it ain't too long after Yeah, so yeah,

540
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: it would have still been on his hand fresh as

541
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: a month. Yeah, so they didn't find no, so he

542
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: didn't fire his gun, James, I'm a legal firearm on

543
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: I own a gun legally, right. I can transport my

544
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: gun in my car as long as I don't have

545
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: as long as I don't have it loaded. If my

546
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: gun is in the if my gun is in my

547
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: trunk and my clippers in my box, yeah, I can

548
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: ride a while I with my gun. I'm not a

549
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: threat to nobody, what matter. If I'm not the flash,

550
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm not Superman. I can't go as simple as in

551
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: two seconds and be ready for action. You can't do

552
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: nothing if you got a gun in your trunk and

553
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: the clipping your um driver. See, you asked out pretty

554
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: much of something happening. But I've been in this situation

555
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,239
Speaker 1: a couple of shootings, and the first thing they do

556
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: is put bags on my hands, over my hands, they

557
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: cover my hands, put them in the bag, and and

558
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: and tie the bag so they can do that chest

559
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: so you don't try to rub it off or nothing

560
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: like that. So if if if that man fired, is

561
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: shot and they shot him, shot him dead, they're still

562
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: supposed to put the bags on his hands just to

563
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: secure that because that's evidence to make sure it ain't

564
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: no blood. And I mean, they didn't do that. I

565
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: don't know if they did or didn't do it, but

566
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: that's one of the things that they do. I know

567
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: they do that out of here. It might not be

568
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: one of these procedures you know, across the world, but

569
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: you know, it just don't make no sense for men

570
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: to lose his life by the police shooting him for

571
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: the sometimes well what they did was the United Nations

572
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: is the involved now. The UN, the actually UN is

573
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: involved now and they're investigating this. Um. These guys are

574
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: gonna do to jail. They're gonna go to jail because

575
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: you know what, this can't be ba this is too big.

576
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: It can't be breasted up under the rug. Because one

577
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: of the things I'm tired of is I'm seeing tired.

578
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: I'm tired of people not being here accountable for what

579
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: they do. Right, They need to go to jail. James.

580
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: You know this family, I don't care if they get

581
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: a trillion dollars. Money doesn't cure the loss of a

582
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: young one. Can't brandy back, They can't bring it back.

583
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: Those people are gonna be sucked up for a long time.

584
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: Their lives will never be the same again. That's definitely

585
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: one you that you never forget for these Sometimes that's

586
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: man that's overkilled. And you know, unless you have some

587
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: set it off. Queen the teeth of ship, get out

588
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: with your OOSI blazing, man, I can see it. But

589
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: if you ain't died with that pistol right there in

590
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: your hand and they got you right there, ain't no

591
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: sense of that. Ain't no sense of it. So but

592
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: who with mine? You know what I'm saying? Six times? Man?

593
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: Have you ever been shut up by the police? James? No, No,

594
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: I didn't ran a lot. I didn't and and like

595
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: I said, I've been I didn't have the bags put

596
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: on my hands at least three times. And knowing this,

597
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: they don't put guns on me many many times. Thank

598
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: god they didn't shoot me. I haven't been shot. I

599
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: have resisted a whole bunch of times. Reggie can tell

600
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: you that, Um, you know, a bunch you had to

601
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: put help them put me in the car one time

602
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: in my house. You know, I just wouldn't go on

603
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: fulk y'all. Huh he was cutting up. Yeah, I was

604
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: on one and you know, our to thinking or feeling

605
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: like they're gonna they're gonna do something to me. He

606
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: hopped from the other side of the police car, off

607
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: the passenger side, hopping the back seat and pulling me

608
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: by my waist, my belt and help them bend me

609
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: in the car. And I'm up right like motherfucker's I ain't.

610
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: I ain't getting in this motherfucker and took me to jail.

611
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 1: So I've been in that situation. The shares different stories.

612
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: I'd have been slapped the ship out of I'd have

613
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 1: been beat up with the stick, you know that, getting

614
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: called three four o'clock in the morning out there nobody

615
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: out there. We didn't have no phones where we were

616
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: video on them. So pretty much everything they did to

617
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: us back then, tempt to ask whoopen to keep it pushing.

618
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: Ain't no filing and complain of none of that. Other

619
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: bulls shit. So going into that substation and going back

620
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: to the game module, I mean they as they whipped

621
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: that ass when they wanted to, and it ain't that

622
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: you can do about it, but accepted, you know what

623
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So two different stations, they had two different

624
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: ways and handle their business doing what they had to do. Compton,

625
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: I was more, It was more easier. I was more

626
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: quick to kiss my motherfucking ass and come on the porch.

627
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: I beat the ship out you opposed to telling the

628
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: Shares that okay, we'renna catch you. And they catch you

629
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: out there that midnight and they whipped that ass. Oh

630
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: oh you ain't talking ship now? Well I came a man, cup,

631
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Sh Shares is low key.

632
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: The most violent ones will take your life, will take

633
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: your life. Yeah, I told you about when they caught

634
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: me and they caught me on Atlantic one time they

635
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: caught you in Atlantic, man and tore my escalator up, man,

636
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: tore my whole car up, toward the baby seat, off

637
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: the back, toward my speakers, up, to all my stuff

638
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: and told me have a good night, left for all

639
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: the ground, said have a good night, and was laughing

640
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: on the way out people, damn, And I'm man, I

641
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: felt like a little hole, James asked, with your badge number.

642
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: That's all I could do. I couldn't do nothing. I

643
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: just got pumped and that's all it is. So I

644
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't look at it like like, I mean, they're the

645
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: only ones that can do that to you. The average

646
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: month bucker that walk up to you can't do that.

647
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's what I'm saying. You're pretty much getting pumped, right,

648
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: So I mean you accept that ship just like every

649
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: other monthucking. Any anybody else say that they didn't accept that,

650
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: and it's don't let me rephrase that. It's a lot

651
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: of cats that fought back or bought the police. But

652
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you ain't been to win.

653
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: You ain't winning none of us. Oh no, if you

654
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: you're fighting, losing better, Oh yeah all the time. So

655
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: it's some cats like Compton Police, like myself that we're

656
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: gonna have to fight. But when you're fucking with them,

657
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: shares them, shares, wasn't playing them. Shares will let you

658
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: go and kill your mother, it would you. You'll be

659
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: you'll get caught off down new tracks and you don't

660
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: have no I tell my sons. Right before my son

661
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: started driving, James, I gave them all the same thing,

662
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: all my kids, I gave the same speech. Right, you

663
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 1: cannot win the battle with the police department, right or wrong.

664
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: Shut the funk up, get your ticket and go home.

665
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: Make it on if you get to be in combative

666
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: and argument argumentative because see, I'm gonna tell you, I

667
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: see white folks, because police the funk out, police the

668
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: funk out. And it's the funniest ship in the world

669
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: to me, Why the fund are you pulling me over?

670
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: I have no do this hurry if I write me

671
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: a fucking ticket, ball and ticket up. They talk all

672
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: kinds of ship. They're getting them the thirds and everything else.

673
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: If it's one of us, we get the Philly Club?

674
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: Was he? White people are comfortable with white people. We

675
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: we funked up when we sunk up bad is we

676
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: complain at the wrong time in the wrong place. We

677
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: were complained in the dark galley, opposed to complaining up

678
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: under the light or in the daytime of whatever the

679
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 1: case might be. Then how do you prepare your kids

680
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: or situation? When the situation happens, all that ship go

681
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: out the window. Man, I was talking listen to the police,

682
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: or don't do this or don't do that. But as

683
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: soon as you get or interact with the police, all

684
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: of that ship is gone. It is totally different, because,

685
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: like I was saying earlier, you might run into a

686
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: good cop that say, I ain't here to violate. Ain't

687
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 1: hearing this? Why you give me a hard time? Y'all?

688
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: To y'all, all I want to do is go home

689
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: to my family. Or you might get that one that

690
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: just what the fuck is wrong with stupid fucker and

691
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: that that's gonna say ship to piss you off. Yeah,

692
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: And that's not it, James. This just happened right A

693
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: mental health call turns into deadly police shooting of armed man.

694
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: See he was armed. This guy was armed. Right here,

695
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: a man was severely heard after being shot by Phoenix

696
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: police on Tuesday, July nineteenth, the department says, following a

697
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: call for a mental health crisis. The unidentified man died

698
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: hours later. Police confirmed the shooting happened on July nineteenth

699
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: near a hundred and eleventh Avenue and Camelback Road. This

700
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: is in Arizona, when a man reportedly had a crisis

701
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: at an impatient mental health facility get at home and

702
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: was making suicidal threats. He says. The manager of the

703
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: facility called the police, saying the man was making threats

704
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: against staff and towards himself to jump out of a

705
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: window and the cut himself. Officers are I have and

706
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: begin talking with him, but then they say he pulled

707
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: a knife out of his pocket and again getting close

708
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: to them. He was told to stop and drop the

709
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 1: knife several times, but he continued. One of the officers

710
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: involved head used his taster towards the man, striking him

711
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: o arbor. The taster was ineffective. The man continued advancing

712
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 1: toward officers with the knife steal in his hand. Bober

713
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: said it was at this point that the officer involved

714
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: shooting took place. Medical aid was given to the man.

715
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: He was taken to the hospital and critical condition and

716
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: died not long after. The man hasn't been identified, but

717
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: he is said to be a man in his early twenties.

718
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: Barras says it appears two officers were directly involved in

719
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: the shooting, one using the taster and the other using

720
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: the gun. Crisis and Adventure Team officers and mobile crisis

721
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: teams were called out to the scene, but the shooting

722
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: took place before they got there the investigation zone. Going,

723
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: this is another situation. You're two professional police officers, your professionals,

724
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: you've been trained in situations like this. This is a

725
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: man with a knife. Don't get me wrong. I me

726
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: and you both know some dangerous individuals with knives, right,

727
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: you know, I know some guys that got knives that

728
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: don't took down people had guns before. So a knife

729
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: is a dangerous thing. But did you have to shoot

730
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: the kill You couldn't shoot him in his leg? How

731
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: does the taste or not work? Like, I don't think

732
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: these people. I think the gun is they first resort.

733
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: Almost James and I'm not you know, I see both sides.

734
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting because you know a lot of people

735
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: sit out there and say, oh, well he just had

736
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: a knife. You could have took them down. But like

737
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: I said, I know people that are dangerous with knives

738
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: and and and and let's just be honest all across

739
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 1: the board. Some situations that police get in, they don't

740
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: have a choice. M Here, you got the man that's

741
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: mental out of his mind and young and said probably

742
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: could have did a lot of damage. He ain't understanding it. Yeah,

743
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: he don't. He all he sees what he sees. So

744
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: you know, every situation, like I just told you, a justified.

745
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: Some of them are justified. If you got a man

746
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: coming at you know him, and you gotta piston and

747
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: you keep bagging up and that man keep coming kicking

748
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: you know who he's been aduced, I am not gonna

749
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: hesitate out of blew him down to see. No, but

750
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: a minute ago you said that they had to shoot

751
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: the kills sometimes. Yeah, and see listening to you talk

752
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: about this way, this one, they may not have had

753
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: a choice, right, they may not have had a choice,

754
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: because I'm thinking about like people I know in my family.

755
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: I know some dangerous motherfucker's James Man, I got an

756
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: uncle that it took people down with guns before James.

757
00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 1: If you shoure when he's get a hesitation, I don't

758
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: see it, just that quick just being falling around everything else.

759
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: You you you do you believe that police they are human? Right? Yeah,

760
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: of course they they think like we think. Just because

761
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: they got a badge don't mean that they ain't no

762
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: pussies on the police force. That they all militant with

763
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: the business and ready to uh m m a any

764
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: motherfucker that comes they come across, ain't the case. You

765
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: got a lot of wimp motherfucker's a lot of WIMPs.

766
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: A lot of police officers become police officers because of

767
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: the authority, because they can do this what people did

768
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 1: to them. You know what I'm saying. They can bully

769
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: you now opposed to being bullied, so they become police.

770
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: You have a lot of police out there that that

771
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: just ain't going to go for it. They got a

772
00:43:53,840 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: complex out of this world. So it's this is crazy,

773
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 1: and then it takes us into something different, something way

774
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,959
Speaker 1: for what we're talking about. So when police get out there,

775
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: they're just as scared as anybody else, man, And that's

776
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: why some of them pull the trigger so goddamn fast,

777
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: because they're scared. Everything goes out of this out of

778
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 1: their brain. They just like us, man. They get butterflies

779
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: and they panic when they're in that situation. So all

780
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: of them ain't gonna gonna don't react like like like

781
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: a normal man would when they you know, some shit happened,

782
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They get in a situation, bam,

783
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: they react the way they truly are, and some of

784
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: them panic, Bro, they don't you know you got something

785
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: out there that to take that stick off and that

786
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: that that felt and fight your ass. You want to fight,

787
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: I fight you. They some of them think a whole

788
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: lot of them okay, So it ain't meant they're just

789
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: like us. They're scared when motherfucker's walk out that door.

790
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 1: They don't know if they're coming home because they're gonna

791
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: run into a cat that ain't playing with them. And

792
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: that's just gonna you. You could be cool and come

793
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: and talking to somebody, the next thing you know, he

794
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: pull out a pistol and blow your pucking brains out.

795
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: So is they occupation dangerous? Yeah, But to get up

796
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: in the morning with something on your mind already being

797
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: piste off and bringing that to work such a job

798
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: as their's, then that's where they sunk up at, you

799
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Then when you handle a situation

800
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: and that situation go big, they you know, nine times

801
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: out of ten, they ain't expecting that, and now they

802
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: don't know how to act. They don't know how to

803
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: react to that situation. So they just like us, man,

804
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: they have the same feelings and emotions that that everybody

805
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: else do. They just got the gun, the badge, and

806
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: they think everybody is supposed to listen to them. But

807
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: when you don't pay attention to him and don't listen

808
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: to him, that's when you see. They used to be

809
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: bullied because now they just get the job. Now they

810
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: get careless with their job. Bro, That's all you have

811
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: out here, and people have that dealt with the police everybody.

812
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: I'm quite sure everybody would agree with me. They just

813
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: they just do Yeah for real? What that third one

814
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: was kind of fifty fifty with me because I'm still saying,

815
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: if you're a police officer, James, you should be trained.

816
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: I think we need more training, probably better training because

817
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: you know this last one, you know, and things about

818
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: the behind sight, this kind of thinking about you, man

819
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: is crazy and he probably you know the person crazy.

820
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: They they can you know, you can have a difficult

821
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: situation on hand with a young like you said, the

822
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: dude it's twenty years old. Young and fifth because I

823
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: was looking at my son other day and I thought

824
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: about it. I was talking to him, said I still

825
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: your asked I thought about I said, this is motherfucking shape.

826
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: I might have heard him if we get him to it,

827
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Because he's just shafey young.

828
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna be to test it with him for

829
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 1: no long time, So I mean that. I mean, that's

830
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: just all it is, bro is. You know, you got

831
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: a young cat. He's mentally killed and not think right,

832
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: and it's just fucking And I noticed because I have

833
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: an uncle, My uncle Rabbit is like like he can

834
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: go from tyrial to a huney and don't wouldn't give

835
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: a fuck, you know what I'm saying. When he wouldn't

836
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: on his man's and all that tip you can't tell

837
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: rab ship can't something else. Yeah, So, like I said,

838
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: some sometimes it's justified, and you understand why they did it.

839
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: They didn't have a choice, you know what I'm saying.

840
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: So so we gotta look at it. What if we

841
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: was in a position that the young man was in.

842
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: Did he deserve to be shot that many times? No,

843
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: regardless of what, uh, unless he running at them guns

844
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: are blazing shoot back, because that's the first thing they

845
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: want to say, Well, he did have a gun in

846
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: the car, what he didn't shoot the gun? Having a

847
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: gun don't mean they don't mean nothing. I don't mean

848
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: the damn thing, especially if you're riding within the parameters

849
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: of the law. You know. So Ever, dimly, man, nothing

850
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: has changed too much. The police are still doing what

851
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: they're doing. And I don't see I don't see this

852
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: getting better no time soon. I don't see nothing changing.

853
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: I think it's the same thing. You know. We get mad,

854
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: we get upset, we march and tear up stuff, but

855
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: then we're right back to the same thing. You know,

856
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: a day later, somebody else is doing something well, basically

857
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: the way that just say, like, if you're imprission, we

858
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: find a way the light of match when they took

859
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: distigrettes and matches, we found a way to get them

860
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: cigarettes and to light them cigarettes. They're gonna find a

861
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 1: way just to do it different so they don't get

862
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: caught up with it. They find a way everything changes, Bro,

863
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: and them knowing that the body cam and people taking

864
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: pictures and people got their cameras out everywhere, they just

865
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: gotta approach it different. But sometimes they don't think because

866
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: when you're eating and got your mindset for something, it's

867
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna happen. That's real. And I'm telling you, man, they

868
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: are no different from us. Bro. They think like we

869
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: think they're no different from a gang member, some of them,

870
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: the ones that out there like that. If they hate you,

871
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: they hate you. If it's a gang like me, I

872
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: talked ship, and because the police out all my fucking day,

873
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: you didn't think them police said wait till we catch

874
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: his motherfucking at and when that when I got cold slip,

875
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: and I got cold slipped, and they whooped that adds

876
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: but they didn't and and well I don't know how

877
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: they did, because one time I declined, uh, total total graves.

878
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk to him no more. So

879
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: Greg said, what did you say? I said, I don't

880
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: want to talk no more, and uh, that motherfucker hauled

881
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: off and slapped and ship out of me. Now Greg

882
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: was the least three fort big, motherfucking white boy. And

883
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: they came from another somewhere else, another division to handle

884
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 1: the game unit. And when that mother that motherfucker slapped

885
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: the ship out of me, my eyes stayed watery for

886
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 1: about two days. Two days this when they was doing

887
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 1: first started cops and wanted us to do the cops

888
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: around the neighborhood and and and and all that ship.

889
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: This is when the first came out even on the

890
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: jail bus. Even in the kind jail they send back

891
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: chatting talking about you know, funk their vives and fuck

892
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: they you know, got called cheating and whatever. They bring

893
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: that ship to their job, man, like we would go

894
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: at that. You know, I brought they want to funk,

895
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: want to do something, and we arguing and called me cheating.

896
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: I get up, through my clothes on and lead a house.

897
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm taking that argument outside with me. Now I'm fissed off.

898
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: Now I'm ready to take my frustration out on somebody else.

899
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: It's the same thing we have here every day. Everything

900
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 1: that we do, it plays itself back, back and forth,

901
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: over and over again. It's like rewinding the video tape

902
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: for old school man. That's all you got here. Half

903
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: of the situations they say they fix, why we didn't

904
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 1: fix certain things when it doesn't happen so many multiple

905
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 1: times the same way. The only thing I can think of, James,

906
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, I've been in Japan maybe six times right

907
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: right now. They have guns in Japan. Don't get a twisted.

908
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: They have guns in Japan. You know that they have

909
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: access to guns, right, but the average beat police officer

910
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: in Japan is not walking with a gun. They just

911
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: gotta stick and taser and a couple other things, right,

912
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: no gun violence, and they are very efficient. I've seen

913
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: police officers in Japan take people down with no problem.

914
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: Tell about people with nives, bottles, everything, you know, they

915
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: took them down. I saw a girl take a guy down,

916
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: a pretty nice sized dude down when I was out

917
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: in Tokyo. She locked him up and did something some

918
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: kind of marshall lost stuff, locked him up, he was

919
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: on the ground. She put the cuffs on them. She

920
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: didn't have a problem. Her male partner was there doing

921
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: the paper work. He took them down like it was nothing.

922
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: You know. So I think they're I think they may

923
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: be better trained out there than we are here because

924
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: they don't have guns. I know their hand in hand

925
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: combat skill is a lot better. But you see the

926
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: average cop out here, James the dude. A lot of

927
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: these guys out of shape, A lot of you, man,

928
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: what can you they are? They out of shape? You

929
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: know you're figured you got you got a fifty sixty

930
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: year old man, it's a cop, right. He run across

931
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: the year old cat. That cat to go to the

932
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: gym every morning, in shape, young, full of piston vinegar.

933
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: He could whoop that ass. Y'all get him to it.

934
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have the stamina to billy ain't with him.

935
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: You probably got good One minute after that woman is up,

936
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 1: your must gonna start locking the phone. You're gonna start

937
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: getting fatigued. And that's when he go get in that ass.

938
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: But what training do they get to get on the

939
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: and then they get on the force and get a

940
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: police card. Uh pounds, two hundred and nine pounds, Big

941
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: old fat men, fat women, big old fat white women.

942
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: They can't do the job they supposed to. No, they're not.

943
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm telling you. It's a big difference. Name.

944
00:53:55,719 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: Seeing those people in Japan, those police officers, they were

945
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: very efficient at their jobs. They were nice to people.

946
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: They weren't rude, but they meant business. I saw this

947
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: man in Tokyo had a big knife, and I'm not

948
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: talking about a little knife, James. He had a bone

949
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: crushing that lady. The way she took him down, it

950
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: was like she was strange. She was up, knife fell

951
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 1: on the ground up next thing, you know, on the ground.

952
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: Right when I was in what you called them, they

953
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: didn't carry the police didn't carry guns either. And people

954
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 1: are so different. People are so different. And the people,

955
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 1: even when they got drunk and I raped, the police

956
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: knew how to handle that. You know what I'm saying.

957
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: It was some cash that we was hanging that I

958
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: was hanging with out there. They never seen a gun,

959
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: never own one. The way they lived and the way

960
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: we live with something totally different. It's way different. And

961
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: I don't know at this point that may be just

962
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: a pipe dream to say that maybe we should disarm

963
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: I police in America. We may have real problems then

964
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: because you've always got the element of the streets. Oh hell,

965
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 1: it's too late to do that, because too many people

966
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: have done Yeah, too many people. And you know what,

967
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 1: James and I keep saying this, It ain't the guns.

968
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: It's the man behind the motherfucking gun. All the time.

969
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: It's the man behind the gun. But we definitely go

970
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: continue on this path. Man, I kind of want to

971
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: keep talking about man police and police reform and what

972
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: are we gonna do. Maybe we can come open some

973
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: solutions on this show properly. Who knows well, I mean,

974
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 1: if everybody listening to everybody's you know, and then paying

975
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: attention to commentions like that, and it gets to a

976
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: place where we can make change, then that's what we

977
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 1: should do.