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Speaker 1: Paul Calvc. You know, there was speculation as to whether

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Speaker 1: this podcast would actually come off this week right here,

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Speaker 1: right now, based on what happened last week. And I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about a road trip between our own Darren Urban,

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Speaker 1: Danny Sirek, and other Cardinals employees out to the Combine.

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Speaker 1: by Pacific Office Automation POLY podcast over here. So I

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Speaker 1: feel like, even though I see you guys, just to

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Speaker 1: verify for everyone else, the listening audience, the Red Sea

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Speaker 1: and Company, maybe we should take role Darren Urban, I'm here,

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Speaker 1: Danny Serek present. Okay, so you defied the odds in

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Speaker 1: this speculation that you two would be at odds after

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Speaker 1: a week on the road together. It was really going

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Speaker 1: And it looks like it's it's more like the latter,

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Speaker 1: which is good for Cardinals Underground. I'm just being professional here,

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Speaker 1: Paul on the podcast. I'm going to keep it real.

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Speaker 1: I'm just being professional working with Darren. If this wasn't

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Speaker 1: your job, you wouldn't be here, is what you're saying

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Speaker 1: with me. Okay, that's good. That's good because I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But Darren was finished in a sentence you had earlier

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Speaker 1: or so I know you guys must have you know,

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Speaker 1: bonded to a certain degree on the road. Come on, now,

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Speaker 1: yes we did. Yeah, I would. I would say that

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Speaker 1: the first time being able to work with Danny at

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Speaker 1: the Combine was arousing success along with Grayson and Kyle.

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Speaker 1: So we had a few things to talk about. Something's

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Speaker 1: happened while we were I might have a couple of

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Speaker 1: beverages too. Yeah, you were just comparing photos and you

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Speaker 1: didn't show me all the photos. There were only a

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Speaker 1: couple of photos you kept between yourselves. So the photos taken.

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Speaker 1: You know, after five o'clock, you're not going to get

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Speaker 1: to see Paul I see, okay, all right, it's good,

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Speaker 1: it's good. You know how the combine is, like everybody

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Speaker 1: it is. Yet that's right networking. I did see one headline,

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Speaker 1: what's sense? Does that mean? Who cares about whether it's

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Speaker 1: the fastest offensive That reminds me of the old as

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Speaker 1: And what does the fastest old line class have to

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Speaker 1: So we were on a Zoom podcast earlier, a Zoom call,

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Speaker 1: And is today in this week not proof of exactly that?

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Speaker 1: the former quarterback of the last place Seahawks, I say,

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Speaker 1: the future quarterback of the Seattle Seahawks, Malik Willis in

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Speaker 1: it's it's not really a hot take. I've I've seen

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Speaker 1: reported the trade is what two Seattle will get two first,

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Speaker 1: up Malik Willis. Okay, the hot take I thought you

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Speaker 1: if you're not sure. But when will you have resolution?

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Speaker 1: If you're Houston, when will there be some sort of

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Speaker 1: Because remember the stat we threw out about a month

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Speaker 1: West is better than the FC West stake, by the way, no, no,

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Speaker 1: business on dealing Russell Wilson. Yes, that was when you

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Speaker 1: and it was on the McAfee show, or he said,

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Speaker 1: you know, hey, we banked our careers quote unquote myself

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Speaker 1: and Steve Kime on Kyler Murray. It doesn't sound like

427
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Speaker 1: a couple of decision makers about to part ways with

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Speaker 1: the guy they drafted and they've groomed and now they're

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Speaker 1: on board long term. I would figure the quarterback is

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Speaker 1: to follow. It's just a matter of when instead of if.

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Speaker 1: And I bring that up in part because I think

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Speaker 1: perhaps here's where the rub or the friction is that

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Speaker 1: if you look at history, you know there have been

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Speaker 1: six quarterbacks who are extended going into year four after

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Speaker 1: year three and three were no brainers and three we're

436
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Speaker 1: not so good. Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, and then Ryan Tannehill.

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Speaker 1: Somewhat debatable, but if you look at the fact that

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Speaker 1: Wentz was extended in June Mahomes was extended in July,

439
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Speaker 1: Alan was extended in August. Watson and Golf were extended

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Speaker 1: in September. So to me, it's more a matter of

441
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Speaker 1: when instead of if, and if Team Kyler wants it

442
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Speaker 1: before the draft, for example, then okay, maybe that wasn't

443
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Speaker 1: the expectation of the club and they want to wait

444
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Speaker 1: for a multitude of reasons, perhaps till after the draft

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Speaker 1: and into this summer, a to see how free agency

446
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Speaker 1: and the draft picks pan out and where that leaves

447
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Speaker 1: them in terms of the cap ramifications of what they're

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Speaker 1: able to do this year, and then that leads into

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Speaker 1: the following years. And also because these are very complicated,

450
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Speaker 1: complex contracts that you know what, you're pouring your resources

451
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Speaker 1: and thought and all that time right now into free

452
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Speaker 1: agency and the draft, and then once that all settles

453
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Speaker 1: down and it comes May in June, you can concentrate

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Speaker 1: on getting this deal done, Unlike extending a head coach

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Speaker 1: or GM, which is really simple and has no future

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Speaker 1: ramifications for the most part, since it doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: be fit under the cap right and ultimately it's just

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Speaker 1: ownership money. It's just the team deciding whether to extend

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Speaker 1: a coach or a GM and if you decide to

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Speaker 1: pull the plug, like Steve Wilkes, well, guess what. There's

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Speaker 1: no cap ramifications there. It's just the club having to

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Speaker 1: eat the rest of that contract. So to me, that's

463
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Speaker 1: that's where I think perhaps the question exists right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're far off on that. It has

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Speaker 1: felt early like all of these the contract talks, and

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Speaker 1: given that's probably because I'm not the one who's asking

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Speaker 1: for a contract extension. But you're right, that's good to know.

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Speaker 1: I file that Darren's trying to be snarky with me now,

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Speaker 1: and I can take it. I condition and take it.

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Speaker 1: She's like coach double rainbow, though she has no intention,

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Speaker 1: no intention, no intention. We're going to parts right now now,

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Speaker 1: but next week who knows. No. I would say that

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Speaker 1: that that take makes a lot of sense in terms

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Speaker 1: of timing. Right you are looking at free agency and

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Speaker 1: the cap and and all that stuff, and there are

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Speaker 1: ways to get around it of signing bonuses and all

477
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Speaker 1: of that. And you know other teams are starting you know,

478
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Speaker 1: players are willing to adjust their contracts to have more

479
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Speaker 1: room in the caps. You can get other players to

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Speaker 1: start building around and all that stuff. There's just a

481
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Speaker 1: lot of moving parts. So I think that's part of

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Speaker 1: it too. Is it takes time, and that's probably why

483
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Speaker 1: a lot of those quarterbacks aren't getting those new contracts

484
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Speaker 1: until late spring, early midsummer, right before the season starts.

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Speaker 1: Is it's it takes a lot. It's it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of moving parts to make sure it's working for everybody involved,

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Speaker 1: and not only just the organization in the quarterback, but again,

488
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Speaker 1: how that's going to leave you money in space for

489
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Speaker 1: all these other players to give your quarterback to have success.

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Speaker 1: How different do you guys think the roster is going

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Speaker 1: to look two months from now? I think very different.

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Speaker 1: I think I think there's too many free agents. I

493
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Speaker 1: think that's a fascinating question. It does feel like I

494
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Speaker 1: feel like the roster has that chance because it's not

495
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Speaker 1: just that they have a bunch of free agents, but

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Speaker 1: that it seems like it's going to be very difficult

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Speaker 1: to resign a lot of them because of what's going

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Speaker 1: to be available to them on the open market. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess we're going to see. I think

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Speaker 1: the other big deal is is it there are some

501
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Speaker 1: key free agents, but they're all like the key free

502
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Speaker 1: agents are all high profile positions. If you're talking about

503
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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones off the edge, or your two top running backs,

504
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Speaker 1: or I mean even even a tight end and wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: I mean guys that I mean, these aren't your special

506
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Speaker 1: teams aces. Although Charles Washington is up and Chris Spanjo

507
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Speaker 1: Spanjo is up, so there's that too, and Ezekiel Turner,

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Speaker 1: so I mean, okay, never mind, even the special teams

509
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Speaker 1: aces are all up. Yeah, I mean, you're right, there's

510
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Speaker 1: some key positions. You know, that number two receiver, the

511
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Speaker 1: edge rusher. What exactly you know are you gonna do

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Speaker 1: if you're in the market for possibly even a number

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Speaker 1: one corner, you know, starting offensive lineman, if you're looking

514
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Speaker 1: for a starting guard. We know that works. There are

515
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Speaker 1: some guys available around thirty years of age, but most

516
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Speaker 1: likely you're gonna have to overpay for some of those

517
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Speaker 1: proven names an interior offensive line. So then again, some

518
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Speaker 1: other names seemingly become available day after day, whether it's

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Speaker 1: a Harold Landry all of a sudden, who could hit

520
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Speaker 1: the open market with tennis, a young and upcoming pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: Could he be a guy you bring in off the

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Speaker 1: edge and you make a serious investment Zadarius Smith. The

523
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Speaker 1: Packers have serious cap issues, and even Brian Goudencuntz was saying,

524
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Speaker 1: in the course of talking about Aaron Rodgers and Davante Adam, saying, yeah,

525
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Speaker 1: we'd like to have Zadarius Smith back, but dot dot

526
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Speaker 1: dot right. I mean, they're forty plus million over the cap,

527
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Speaker 1: and he's a very effective pass rusher when he's healthy.

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Speaker 1: So that's the other thing is, Yeah, the Cardinals might

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Speaker 1: lose some names that we've all counted on to be

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Speaker 1: real playmakers for this team and difference makers in past years,

531
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Speaker 1: but there are also just as many names hitting the

532
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Speaker 1: open market that you don't anticipate becoming Arizona Cardinals. Look

533
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: at two years ago, DeAndre Apkins, last year, JJ Watt.

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Speaker 1: You know, don't be surprised. If you are surprised, I

535
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Speaker 1: guess is what I'm saying. Three weeks from now, Houston's

536
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Speaker 1: running out of players. That's what I was going to say, though, Paul, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you can get Bill O'Brien wherever Bill O'Brien has

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Speaker 1: target him, be any trade. I mean not to necessarily

539
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Speaker 1: say there's going to guaranteed a big splash. Free agency signing,

540
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Speaker 1: but you look at DeAndre Hopkins and JJ Watton, there's

541
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Speaker 1: something very intriguing to players around the league to come

542
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: play with Kyler Murray and the rest of this Cardinals team.

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00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,719
Speaker 1: That's not to say you can get free agents who

544
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Speaker 1: aren't those big names and they can still be playmakers

545
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Speaker 1: and make a difference on this team. But that's what

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Speaker 1: makes me excited for free agency time is the fact

547
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: that players around the league are zach Ertz. I mean

548
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: that wasn't That was later in the season, of course,

549
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: but there's something about this team and this organization that

550
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: players around the league have taken note of, and that

551
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: makes it fun because that means players want to come

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Speaker 1: to the Cardinals. By the way, you know, I was

553
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Speaker 1: going to say, we did a podcast and we did

554
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Speaker 1: have a chance to get to it, and I won't

555
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Speaker 1: blame the two of you for extending, you know, over

556
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: extending your time during the podcast, but I thought I'd

557
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: bring it up right here. What if you turned Steve

558
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: Kime into you know that used car commercial used to

559
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Speaker 1: see on the u F stations when you're a kid,

560
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, the dealing ut right, the local car dealer.

561
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Speaker 1: He's the dealingist what is the best aspect of Steve

562
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: Kim as a general manager his ability to execute trades? Right?

563
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: Rhetorical question, I okay, what if he just turned him

564
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Speaker 1: right now into the dealingist. It's right here, right now.

565
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Speaker 1: You're hosting the Super Bowl next year. You want to

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Speaker 1: play in that super Bowl. The NFC West is weaker,

567
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: the NFC is weaker. If your time is truly now,

568
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: then what about just unleashing Steve Kim on the open

569
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Speaker 1: market to execute trades? Guess what we're taking calls in

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Speaker 1: number twenty three overall, you want to call about any

571
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Speaker 1: of our other draft picks, any of our other players,

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Speaker 1: have at it. Let's go, because I'll tell you what

573
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Speaker 1: in Kime I trust when it comes to the trade

574
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Speaker 1: market more than anything. And if the Rams are able

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Speaker 1: to execute a trade, that really put him on the

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Speaker 1: path to a Super Bowl. And by the way, that

577
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: that deal right now, getting Matthew Stafford for a couple

578
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Speaker 1: of ones in Jared Goff and as opposed to what

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Speaker 1: Denver just paid for Russell Wilson looks like a pretty

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Speaker 1: good looks like he was pretty well bought Matthew Stafford

581
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Speaker 1: right now compared to what Denver just gave up to

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Speaker 1: get Russell Wilson right. Well, I will say this, yes,

583
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: although at the times of the trade, Russell Wilson has

584
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Speaker 1: had a better reputation. I mean, you didn't know exactly

585
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Speaker 1: what you were getting with Matthew Stafford. And let's face it,

586
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: until the playoffs, people were still questioning if Matthew Stafford

587
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Speaker 1: was much better. And if you look at the analytics,

588
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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford what he has done in that offense is

589
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: remarkably similar to what Jared Goff did in that offense.

590
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Speaker 1: So you wonder a little bit about that. The problem

591
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Speaker 1: with the trader part of it isn't so much. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying, but like you can't say

593
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Speaker 1: my business is open, what do you want. That's somebody

594
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Speaker 1: who does work saying we're not going to do anything

595
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: next year, so we're trying to build up for the later.

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00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: If you're really going trying to do the all in stuff,

597
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: then Steve Kim is the guy going and calling teams

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Speaker 1: saying I want this and here's what I'll give you

599
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: for it, Which that's fine, but it's a little different

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Speaker 1: than saying, hey, league, I'm open for business. What are

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Speaker 1: you willing to give me. That's true. All right, that's

602
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: a team that's not going anywhere. You're right, I guess yeah,

603
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: I'd be more passive aggressive when you need to be

604
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: more proactive. Yeah, I agree, And you're right. Russell Wilson

605
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: think about it, has sixteen career playoff games under his

606
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Speaker 1: belt and a Super Bowl title. Jared Goff, Jeredoff, Matthew

607
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: Stafford was oh and three in the playoffs. So you're right.

608
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: They have a different postseason resume and pedigree. Now, now

609
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Speaker 1: if you now, it looks great for the Rams and

610
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: it worked out well for him, gave them see for them.

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Speaker 1: I guess is what I'm saying is I would not

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Speaker 1: be opposed to training way number twenty three overall. For example,

613
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Speaker 1: if you got to prove an edge rusher, if you

614
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Speaker 1: got a proven one A type receiver, you know, if

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Speaker 1: you got a couple of approven starting number one corner

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Speaker 1: for example, I would not be opposed to training way

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Speaker 1: number twenty three, even though even though you're the only

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Speaker 1: team in the division with a first round draft pick

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Speaker 1: this year, and you like that, you like the sounds

620
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Speaker 1: of that. Seattle, Oh that's true. Now, Seattle is number

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Speaker 1: nine overall. You're right. So, by the way, the latest

622
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Speaker 1: mock draft that I saw on NFL dot Com has

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals taking Crystal Labby from Ohio State, who had

624
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Speaker 1: a heck of a combine. Did he not the Ohio

625
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: State wide receiver? He's got size, he has speed, people

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Speaker 1: attached to him. I just I don't know if they

627
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Speaker 1: keep their first round pick. I don't know if they

628
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Speaker 1: go after a receiver. I still think it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a I think you could get an offensive lineman

630
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Speaker 1: who drops, or a good cornerback or an edge rusher.

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Speaker 1: I think those are more likely in the first round

632
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Speaker 1: than a receiver. But that's just me, Danny, how would

633
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Speaker 1: you feel about a receiver? I'm okay with taking a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. I think the last couple of years have

635
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Speaker 1: proven that a lot of those rookie wide receivers have

636
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Speaker 1: had great first years in the NFL. I mean, there's

637
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Speaker 1: a whole list of you were you were named him

638
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: off in your mail bag too, where it was in

639
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: a question looking at some of those rookie wide receivers

640
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: of Justin Jefferson, Jalen Wattle, Jamar Chase. Oh yeah, that's right.

641
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: Did you see the mail bag in this week. No,

642
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: oh boy, you got you got partially called I got,

643
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta facial. That was not my intention.

644
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: I've got it right here. I say, look, now he's

645
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: really Danny. Just put it on blast a chance I forgot.

646
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Speaker 1: I hope I'm pronouncing this right. Joaquim uh Hi Darren

647
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: loved listening to you guys on Cardinal's Underground. Also, Danny

648
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: has been a great edition, which is why Danny saw

649
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: the question in the first place this join and because

650
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: he was known for throwing high heat and hitting a batter.

651
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm gonna take one some chin music

652
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: right now. I know this is not a question, but

653
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: can you please correct Paul KELVC on his old trope

654
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: of receivers not panning out in the first round and

655
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: relieve him of his fears the last two first rounds.

656
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase historically good, Jalen Wattle very good, Davante Smith

657
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: very good, Darius Tony injured rookie season, but showed showed

658
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: serious flashes. Davonte Smith very good. Yeah, I don't know

659
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: if I don't know about very good, and I didn't

660
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: hear great things about Tony Rashad Bateman looks poised to

661
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: be Baltimore's number one. Henry Ruggs, we won't go there.

662
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy's saster. Jerry Judy has been solid, but they've

663
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 1: had terrible quarterbacks. And I'm willing to say that Ceedee

664
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: Lamb made a Pro Bowl. J raygor is bad, justin Jefferson,

665
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: and Brandon Aiyuk has been actually pretty good, decent, really

666
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: up and down this year, though, really up and down.

667
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: Brandon Aiyuk. I mean he actually probably was better as

668
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: rookie year than he was this past year. You know.

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Speaker 1: So my point was not to bring up the question

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00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: that I think your point was. To my point was

671
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: the hit rate has been fifty fifty at best. And

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00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: if you're if you think you're poised to have a

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00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: Super Bowl window, can you rely on that first round receiver.

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00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: That's been my point. If if if you see that

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00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 1: kind of caliber at a wide receiver at twenty three,

676
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: a top knee for this team. I still think that

677
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: wide receiver is probably one of their top three needs

678
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: on this team, whether that's through the draft or free agency.

679
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: So if you feel like you can find a young

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00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: receiver that can be a difference maker, and that will

681
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: work well with Kyler Murray. I'm not entirely opposed to that.

682
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: Do I think there are other positions that will probably

683
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: make more sense because the further you drop down in

684
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: the draft, you see a larger drop off in a

685
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: lot of those positions, like an edge rusher or offensive

686
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: line or something like that. Yes, but I'm not I'm

687
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Speaker 1: not going to completely nix the idea that I would

688
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: be anti wide receiver, not the same way. I do

689
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: think you can find receivers a little bit later. But

690
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: I got a question, Paul, when you start talking about

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Speaker 1: hit rate, what's the difference between the receiver in the

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Speaker 1: first round and any other position. It's about fifty. In fact,

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Speaker 1: Steve km just said that the other day, like first

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Speaker 1: round picks are about fifty two on the scale the

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00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: Cardinals use on whether it's a success, and all their

696
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: bar is for success is that you start in the league,

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00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: not even that you're great. I had a graphic, and

698
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: I wish I had at my fingertips, but the hit rate.

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00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: This was going into last year's draft, and I tweeted

700
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: it out and I ripped it off an ESPN morning show.

701
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: But it was one of those NFL Next Gens stats

702
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 1: that they posted up there, they hit rated wide receiver

703
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: in the first round was the worst of any position.

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00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: That was the stat And I'll try and find the photo.

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00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 1: I took a picture of the screen about last April,

706
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: going into the last year's draft. Here's the thing, though,

707
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: three weeks from now, if you're sitting there in the

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00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: receiver room and Sean Jefferson has only two seats occupied. Basically,

709
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: it's d Hop and it's Rondale Moore and a bunch

710
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: of guys named Bueller. Okay, I mean Antoine Wesley, I

711
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: guess is there. But other than that Andy Isabella, who

712
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: knows honestly, I would keep Andy Isabella right now a

713
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: because his cap number is less than two million, and

714
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: be if you're gonna move Rondale More outside, I would

715
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: use Andy Isabella and the Rondale More role that he

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Speaker 1: just had this year. I would just make him the

717
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: lateral guy, the Jets sweep guy, the bubble screen guy.

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Speaker 1: I would just keep Andy Isabella in the Rondale More typroll.

719
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Speaker 1: What will you possibly get in a trade for Andy Isabella? Okay?

720
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: That makes it work. There's two different things we need

721
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: to talk about anyway. That's one side. What makes you

722
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: think Rondale Moore's playing outside? Sean Jefferson, we had him

723
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: on the Big Red Race. He said he might use himself.

724
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: He ain't gonna be your outside receiver. You might use

725
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: an outside that I mean, because he's five nine. But

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00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: wait a minute, Yeah, how much shorter is that than

727
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: Tyree Kill? A couple inches? I mean, Sean Jefferson looked

728
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 1: us right in the eye and talked about how robust

729
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: his route tree is and how he has the ability

730
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: to run these these these routes down field and so um,

731
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Speaker 1: I will be stunned if Rondale Moore is their full

732
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: time number two outside receiver. Stunned. Now, maybe he will,

733
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: but I will be stunned. And I think, Andy Isabella,

734
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: I think I think the reason you let him seek

735
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: a trade at this point is because you might be

736
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: what if you're if you can't get something for him,

737
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: maybe you go ahead and you you get that pick.

738
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: But ultimately I don't. I think you do keep him

739
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: if you can't get anything for him, because you do

740
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: at least until you know who else you're gonna have.

741
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 1: And that's my point. I've been I'm saying, three weeks

742
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: from now, going into the draft, if you only have

743
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: d Hop and Rondale Moore in your room, and then

744
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Chris Olave is there, number twenty three.

745
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: Guess what need does factor in? Wis? So, now, what

746
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: are you doing with Rondale Moore? Because Olave would be

747
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: your outside guy. Rondale Moore is gonna play where Christian

748
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: Kirk play this year? Sure? He good? Yeah, he's versatile enough.

749
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: He's versatile enough. Rondel Moore could be the slot guy

750
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: in that situation. You could be the slot guy either way.

751
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: If ron ideally Rondale Moore is Christian Kirk, He's your

752
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: number three. He's your slot guy. You have d Hop

753
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: is your number one outside you get into legit. Number

754
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: two is the other outside. That's where I say Andy

755
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: Isabella comes in as your number four, as your jet

756
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: sweep guy. But I think here's the graphic that I snapped.

757
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: This was like April twentieth of last year, So that

758
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: was so so the stat red twenty seven percent hit

759
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: rate for a first round receiver, the lowest among all.

760
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: We don't know what hit rate means either, and we

761
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: don't know We don't know the sample size on that

762
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: he was just doing the last two years, so that's possible.

763
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: I guess ultimately, if you're if you decide to put

764
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: Rondale Moore on the outside, you're going back to where

765
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: you were when Christian Kirk was your outside receiver, and

766
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty much determined that that probably

767
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: wasn't the way to go. I guess, But you know,

768
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: is Rondale Moore gonna have the same exact results you

769
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: think as Christian Kirk? Are you automatically presuming they're gonna

770
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: be both have that same lack of production and just

771
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: a lack of familiarity and comfort factor outside like Christian

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00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,959
Speaker 1: Kirk did. Um, I don't know. I based on Sean

773
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: Jefferson interview, that's not what I took from the receiver's coach,

774
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: I guess is what I'm saying. I look, I'm not

775
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: saying it can't happen. I'm just I would be surprised.

776
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: I think too. I think there's gonna be a lot

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00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: of um wide receivers in the free agency market, and

778
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: that you know, obviously could play a large role before

779
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: the draft of finding a letter and wide receiver who

780
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Speaker 1: can be that number two under dhop and could fill

781
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: in as the number one if they have to in

782
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: that situation. And I think that would probably be a

783
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: really great scenario for this cardinal seems and you're not

784
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: having to necessarily take again if it works for you

785
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: and that's what you want to do, but you don't

786
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: necessarily have to take a wide receiver at twenty three

787
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Speaker 1: if that's what happens. I mean, name some names. I

788
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: could see the thought bubble over your head there, Danny,

789
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: here we go. Mike Williams, he's gonna stay with the Chargers.

790
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: We're just gonna run down some names. He's staying. Chris

791
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: Godwin got tagged by the Bucks. Michael Gallop he's staying

792
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. Alan Robinson might hit the open market.

793
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: Keep him on the radar. How about a Juju Smith?

794
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: Schuster brought up his name before. He doesn't look to

795
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 1: be long for Pittsburgh now. Was he a legit number

796
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: one receiver after Antonio Brown left? No, he struggled when

797
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: he got all that extra attention, but as a number

798
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: two he was very effective. Russell Gage is a name

799
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: a kid out of for the Falcons. Now with the

800
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: Calvin Riddle right in that news coming out of there,

801
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: and maybe Russell Age is more of a priority for

802
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: the Falcons. Will see. I know neither one of you

803
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: likes the will Fuller suggestion that I put out there.

804
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: He's coming off the PD suspension in the Broken Finger

805
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: DJ Shark. If he ends up getting away from Jacksonville,

806
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: six foot four, young guy, he could be a legit.

807
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: He'd sort of be like a younger Aj Green in

808
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: a way, right. Jarvis Landry, is he going to be

809
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: a cap casualty with the Browns. There's a lot of

810
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: speculation he's due fifteen million, five time pro bowler. There's

811
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: a guy I could see on a one year make good,

812
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: right prove it type deal. And then what exactly is

813
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: going to happen with Mark z Valdis scandling the Green

814
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: Bay Packers, especially after Aaron Rodgers and DeVante Adams. And

815
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people like to make the

816
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: argument of a lot of players some you listed, others

817
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: like a name that I am looking at from my

818
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: former employer of Amari Cooper with the Dallas Cowboys. A

819
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: lot of people like to make the argument of why

820
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: would one of these ride receivers who probably wants to

821
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: be in number one. Want to come to the Arizona

822
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: Cardinals when you have DeAndre Hopkins. But players, first of

823
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: all want to go somewhere where they can win, and

824
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: that's the first thing. And second of all, Deandrew Hopkins

825
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: gets double team. It's not like he's necessarily open all

826
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: the time. So coming to a team with him, a

827
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: player would still have plenty of option, plenty of opportunities

828
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: to get the ball and to still make a difference.

829
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: And that that I think is the key thing is

830
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily you're coming here and DeAndre Hopkins going

831
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: to get every single pass. Teams obviously account for him,

832
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: and that leaves you open. I'm going to I slightly disagree.

833
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: I know what's coming, you know it's coming. Players go

834
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: to teams. Players come to teams for two reasons before winning.

835
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: Always it's the money and or than the opportunity to

836
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: make more money. If you can win, goodie for you.

837
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: And but but if if you're talking about I'm going

838
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: to go and take three million less dollars a year

839
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: at this place and potentially make less impact on the

840
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: field to win, Hardly anybody's doing that. If you are

841
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: doing it, you're probably doing it at the end of

842
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: your career or the team that is close to winning.

843
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: That's the kind of player like aj Green. Last year,

844
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: AJ Green didn't have a giant market because for an

845
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: aging receiver, there's only so many places that make sense.

846
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: For him, this was a place that made sense, so

847
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: he had a chance to win, probably more than in Cincinnati,

848
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: ironically enough. But you know, I think ultimately I would

849
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: agree with you more about the opportunity. If DeAndrea Hopkins

850
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: is getting double team, you get more chances there. If

851
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: you're coming on a short deal, I better be coming

852
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: to a place where I can get a bunch of

853
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: catches so that next year. Want to hit the open market,

854
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna pay me a lot of money and otherwise

855
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: I want the most money. And I just I get

856
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: the players say they want to win and everything. That's

857
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: just that's I've been doing this for a long time,

858
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: and that's just never the case. It's just never the case.

859
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: When you guys are on the road, Danny does he

860
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: swear because you know, goody on him. I think to

861
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: quote Darren there directly, you know, moments ago. I mean,

862
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: you know he's cleansing this up on. Yeah, so I

863
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: was just curious, like, you know, does does he? Does

864
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: he believe? Are there any bleeps involved when you're on

865
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: the road with Darren? No? Not a single one? Okay,

866
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: all right, all right, wait did we have a conversation

867
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: about this that I cussed too much? Yes? We did,

868
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: believe we did. I wasn't going to share that now

869
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: that's okay. I'm an open book here on Cardinal's Underground,

870
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: I presented by Pacific Office Automation. Dang, there you go.

871
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what would lead to an expletive by

872
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: Darren urban Is if the following came true. That was

873
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: predicted on ESPN this morning when I flipped on the

874
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: Talking Heads and I don't know if this is a

875
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: hot take segment by design, but they threw up some

876
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 1: of the premier names flashback to the group, and I'm like, wait,

877
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: what you know, just any sort of ESPN morning show,

878
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: It's just a collection of people shouting and spouting off opinions, right, so,

879
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: just without the pancake make up and the bright lights.

880
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: And the question was, and they threw up some prominent

881
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: names in free agency, where are they most likely to land?

882
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: And the name to the big swagou what shoes the

883
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 1: player again? Marcus Spears. Marcus Spears was asked about Chandler

884
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: Jones and his answer was the La Rams. And at

885
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 1: that point I did lead it let out an expletive

886
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: at that point it might have censored myself at Cossa

887
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: KALVISI when I saw that this morning, because that what hurt.

888
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 1: If Chandler Jones went within the division and he ended

889
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: up opposite Aaron Donald and he replaced a von Miller,

890
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 1: who may or may not go back to the Denver

891
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: Broncos now that they have Russell Wilson. Okay, good riddence

892
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: to Von Miller get him on the division. But if

893
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones goes to the Rams, I'm gonna need I

894
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: might have to take a week off work. It is

895
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: it is and a motivated Chandler Jones along with Aaron Donald.

896
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: So we'll see. Because we're not getting the sense Chandler Jones.

897
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: And it seems like every offseason addition of whatever content

898
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: we're doing comes back to number fifty five. We're not

899
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: getting the feeling that Chandler Jones is long for the

900
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, Right, Darren, This does feel like a Klais Campbell,

901
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: a Patrick Peterson correct a Tyrone. Matthew feels well, Tyrone

902
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: was a little bit different. He was under contract and

903
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: they asked him to reduce his salary and he didn't,

904
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: so they released him. The other ones were all in.

905
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: Tyrone actually went elsewhere for less. Yes. Then then they

906
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: were offering to give yes to why to Houston to

907
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: make more money and to get the opportunity to make

908
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: big money. They wow, you know, I'm trying to be professional.

909
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: Um I do think it feels a little bit like

910
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 1: a lot more like Patrick Peterson. The Klais thing. Again,

911
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: they made him an offer. It was a decent offer.

912
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: It wasn't anywhere near what the Jaguars were offering him,

913
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: so you know that's fair. Remember when they issued later,

914
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: I think it was Klais's own production, and they actually

915
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: put out a video that's true. There he was in

916
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: his living room or at his palatial state wherever it was,

917
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: and it was the moment of truth and free agency

918
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: had just opened, and he's fielding the calls from his

919
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: agent who is in direct communication with the Jaguars. And

920
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: then they would go back to the Cardinals to see

921
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: if the Cardinals are willing to match, and the Cardinals

922
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: were matching. The Cardinals went up to twelve million a year,

923
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 1: but the Jags went to fifteen and at that point

924
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: that I vividly remember that he was host to the

925
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: big red rage at that point, where like CAUs but

926
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: then when Jacksonville just overshot the market just really blew

927
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: the salary structure of the out of the water for

928
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 1: that point in time for what a defensive lineman would command,

929
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: especially at that age. That's when the Cardinals bowed out,

930
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: and you know, Calais ended up having a really good career,

931
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: but you know, it's just sort of that unknown and

932
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones is gonna be thirty two, and he is thirty,

933
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: isn't he? He hasn't gonna be thirty two this season?

934
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: And you know, for a guy who obviously speed rush

935
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: is a big part of his repertoire, you know, what

936
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: exactly does the future hold? So if you're investing in

937
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, I don't know he could he'd be great

938
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: for the next three years, absolutely, but he also went

939
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: without a sack for eight straight games at one stage

940
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: of this past season, So you know, the film doesn't lie.

941
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: I'm sure the experts are looking at the film and

942
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: they're saying, Okay, was he getting extra attention? What exactly

943
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: was going on? Most people think Chandler Jones is a

944
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: top five or top six free agent of all the

945
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: free agents. Ye, and that's before the franchise tags. In fact,

946
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: I have this list from the Athletic and he was

947
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: listed as the seventh best free agent available coming on

948
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: the market. However, number one Davante Adams franchise, Number two

949
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown junior tackle for the Chiefs franchise, Chris Godman

950
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 1: Buccaneers receiver franchise. Ce J Jackson quarterback for the Patriots,

951
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: he's on the market. Drawn Armstead, the tackle from the Saints,

952
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 1: he's on the market. Mike Williams Chargers has already resigned

953
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 1: with the Chargers. So according to this list, Chandler Jones

954
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: is the third best free agent out of all of

955
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: them that's going to be available. Interesting, usually those guys

956
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: get paid, yep. And there are enough teams with enough

957
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: cap room right now, right, Darren, there are enough teams

958
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: who need edge rush. Look, if you have the quarterback,

959
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: then it's all about getting to the quarterback. Those that's

960
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: one and one A in the NFL right now, in

961
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: the game today, those are the two most important things.

962
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: And so if Chandler Jones is that guy and he's available,

963
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: he will get paid. It's gonna happen, There's no doubt.

964
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: What else from the combine? By the way, was there

965
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 1: anything else that stood out to you guys from the combine?

966
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the sauce Gardner's stuff. You know, man, he

967
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: would look good in a Cardinals uniform. He and getting

968
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: out of the top ten though, I mean, is that

969
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: for real? Six foot three as a corner and he

970
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: ran a four four one. I saw somewhere that they

971
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: had just installed new turf in the cold stadium, and

972
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: they were thinking that that might be that might be

973
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why which I don't know how

974
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: this works, but why the times were so fast in

975
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: the forty because everybody had fast times. I wouldn't have

976
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: thought that would have necessarily made I don't know. Yeah,

977
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: I saw a speculation. A lot of the scouts were

978
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: rolling their eyes watching the forties because so many guys

979
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: were so fast at this year's combine, like, what's going

980
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: on here exactly? And I hadn't heard that somebody was

981
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: saying that group was so fast exactly. I tried peanut

982
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: butter whiskey for the first time, Paul, peanut butter whisky.

983
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: It was quite good. You know. I hate to say,

984
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: I don't know who makes that, but when I hear that,

985
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, that whiskey maker is trying a little

986
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: bit too hard. You know who who? Who? Who created it?

987
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: David Wells, not the Cardinals tight end, but the former

988
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: picture or picture. Yes, it's called the brand I had

989
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: was called Screwball who who based on his on his career,

990
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: he knows a thing or two about drinking whiskey. So

991
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: it's good. That's uh, I highly recommend h Okay, all right,

992
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: there you go. It's uh. At one point in the night,

993
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: did you try peanut butter whiskey? That we're not talking

994
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: about that part of it, right, You don't get all

995
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: the details, Paul, just because it was good. It was yummy, right,

996
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: And that's it. Because because there was there was like

997
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: we it was on it was the Big Red Raid

998
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: actually actually, and we had to record Darren early because

999
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: ostensibly eight o'clock at night for him was too late

1000
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: that he was going to be getting some sleep that

1001
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: night at the Combine. And that's actually I said to Holmes,

1002
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: our fine producer, Jim, I'm hunter, are we really buying

1003
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: that Darren? That eight o'clock is too late for Darren

1004
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: Urban on the road with the I will say, in

1005
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: general terms, I went in earlier, on a more consistent

1006
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: basis on this combine than I ever have. I did

1007
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: one kind of late night that last late that last night,

1008
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: but for the most part I was. I was super

1009
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: good and uh was limited in my beverage drinking, and

1010
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: many people were not. Once again, that's that's one of

1011
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: those Pete Carroll statements that can be parsed. Right, I

1012
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: was better than I've ever been at the Combine. Well,

1013
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: what exactly is that saying? You know, as opposed to

1014
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: being out every night? Some of us aren't under. So

1015
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 1: it was thirty four under thirty four yes, yeah, here's one.

1016
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: You had the peanut butter whiskey. Yes, um, Danny? What

1017
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: about you with the shrimp cocktail? Did you? Did you

1018
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: partake of the shrimp cocktail at Saint Almo's Steakhouse? You

1019
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: have to? It was so good, all right? I love

1020
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: a little kick that cocktail sauce the horse round. How

1021
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: many were on the expense report? Did you? It wasn't all?

1022
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: You can know? We were. There were four of us,

1023
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: and we were smart because three of us had been

1024
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: to the Combine and been to Saint Almo's before, and

1025
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: I think had made the mistake of ordering too much

1026
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: and so then you get too full for your meal.

1027
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 1: So there were four of us, so we only shared

1028
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: two shrimp cocktails between the four of us. We were smart,

1029
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: saved room for the lobster bisk for our meals. I

1030
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: heard someone ate their body weight and shrimp. Thought, was

1031
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: that Grayson or you? Who was that exact shrimp? Okay, yeah,

1032
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: I had shrimp in my meal. Grayson, our fine videographer, editor,

1033
00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: producer who was out there. I'm not gonna I'm I'm

1034
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: gonna share too much, although I don't think she'd be embarrassed,

1035
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: but she definitely she definitely impressed us with finishing her meal.

1036
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: For those people that don't know, and you might be

1037
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 1: able to find her picture when she did her staff

1038
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: picks of her shooting on the on the sideline. But

1039
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: Grayson is a former college soccer player that uh looks

1040
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: like she never eats and yet she eats more than

1041
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: anybody I've ever seen, and she's proud of it. Oh yeah,

1042
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,479
Speaker 1: she flaunts it, and she she she put on a show.

1043
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: I will say that she must have them at Tabolism

1044
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: of a humming Bird based on how much she pretty much,

1045
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly unbelievable. Yeah, here's the one though for you,

1046
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: Um Roger McCreery, the the corner from Auburn, Yeah right,

1047
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: all American whose claim to fame was it he picked

1048
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: off Joe Burrow while he played at Auburn while guarding

1049
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase. That's that's a that's a double flex. You're

1050
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: guarding Jamar Chase and you picked off Joe Burrow while

1051
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: doing so in a game Auburn against LSU. Okay, so

1052
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: he's known for that and one other thing. His pregame meal,

1053
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: which is a hanking huge bowl of baked beans, plus

1054
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: he adds sugar and as he demonstrated on the NFL

1055
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: network because they brought out the prop. It was a

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Speaker 1: big old soup bowl of baked beans. Okay, a full

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Speaker 1: family serving of baked beans, and he added sugar the

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Speaker 1: packets and as he was preparing it, and he was

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Speaker 1: great on camera, and he had him miked up. He said,

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Speaker 1: not one packet, but seven or eight and he just

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Speaker 1: kept tearing packets and adding sugar, and he stirred it

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Speaker 1: all up and he started just wolfing it down. And

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Speaker 1: he says he does that before every single football game,

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Speaker 1: the night before he does it. That's some sort of carblow.

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Speaker 1: How do you even start doing that? Like, what the

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00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: first time? Do you say, hey, this is a good idea.

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Speaker 1: First of all, three things, one nine sounds gross. Second

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Speaker 1: of all, why would you want all those baked beans

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00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: in your stomach before playing a game? That sounds silly?

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Speaker 1: And third of all, I would love to hear what

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Speaker 1: a nutritionist was thinking watching him put a seven or

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Speaker 1: eight packets of sugar and his bowl of baked beans.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to ask Jessica next time we on

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Speaker 1: intern around here, will ask her what do you think

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Speaker 1: of that concoction? Because actually the host she tried at

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Speaker 1: a spoonful, she tried to she was complimentary. He said

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Speaker 1: it was very good. Now, of course, you know, he

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Speaker 1: was the dinner guest and she was probably being nice.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, did you stand next to this six

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Speaker 1: foot eight gargantuan dude from Minnesota. The tackle. This guy

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00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: intrigued me more than anyone. Daniel Faale fallally Man totally

1082
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: butchering that anyway, six foot eight, three hundred eighty four

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00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: pounds with a wingspan of eighty five inches, that's basically

1084
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: a small passenger plane. Are you kidding me? And he

1085
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 1: reported to Minnesota as a freshman at four twenty six.

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00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 1: He's actually lost forty five fifty pounds and weighed in

1087
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Speaker 1: at three eighty four six foot eight, and they say

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Speaker 1: he's the modern combines heaviest player ever by a good

1089
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Speaker 1: fifteen pounds. And so he was just intriguing just by

1090
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: the sheer measurements. The measurables of that dude was ridiculous

1091
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Speaker 1: some of the one on one drills, and he's dwarf

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Speaker 1: guys who are six three to six four. I'm sorry

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00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: saying his wingspan again, because I'm trying to do the

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Speaker 1: math in my head. I'm figuring out if that's long

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Speaker 1: about how I am tall? Eighty five inches his wingspan

1096
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Speaker 1: so in a hand size of eleven inches six four pounds,

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00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: that's like the guy that Jets drapped a couple of

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00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: years ago, McKay Beckton. They called him a mount longer

1099
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Speaker 1: than how tall I stand. Yeah, but see, like again,

1100
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Speaker 1: how does that translate into the league? Right? The measurables

1101
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: is always a fascinating thing. Somebody asked me in the

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00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: mailbag this week about measurables and what they mean and everything.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I saw some list the other

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00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: day about the the top forty yard dash times in

1105
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: combine history, and like Chris Johnson was on there, and

1106
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: then pretty much everybody else were total bus never unknown

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00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: or they yeah, well once again, John Ross four two

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Speaker 1: flat went number nine overall. Speaking of hit rate, Joaquin,

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00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: how about John Ross from the Cincinnati Bengals was top ten?

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Speaker 1: With an m an Okay, So I just thought i'd

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Speaker 1: throw that out there. He enjoys your work, Okay, No,

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Speaker 1: I said he I like you, Paul, and I enjoy it.

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00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,959
Speaker 1: Doesn't like you anymore. I know, I enjoy I enjoy

1114
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Speaker 1: mixing it up. I just you know, any any anyone

1115
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Speaker 1: who engages you know, let's go. It's good stuff. It's

1116
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Speaker 1: good stuff. Every question now regarding Paul has to be answered, Darren.

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Speaker 1: And look, I mean, you know, if you use my philosophy,

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Speaker 1: you never would had Larry Fitzgerald. You never would had

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Speaker 1: ant Kwan Bolden. Then again, there's also Chad Williams who's

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Speaker 1: out there from a few years ago. Right, that was

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Speaker 1: a third though, that was a third round pick. And

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Speaker 1: I will say this and now I know it's time

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Speaker 1: to wrap this up. But at the same time, it's

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Speaker 1: like the fits. I mean when we start going back

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Speaker 1: to two thousand and three, two thousand and four and

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Speaker 1: an qual was the second round pick two. But like

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Speaker 1: I mean those that that was just a different time,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't even the years when Charles Rogers and

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Speaker 1: Mike Williams and and uh and finally Calvin Johnson, we're

1130
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Speaker 1: all top five picks by the Lions in a row.

1131
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: Like nobody, nobody does that anymore. It's the philosophies of change.

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Speaker 1: And here's the other thing that really argues in favor

1133
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: of joaqm and it's that only forty receivers were invited

1134
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Speaker 1: to the combine. Last year, fifty five were invited. So

1135
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: there's good quality. There's not a lot of quantity this year,

1136
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Speaker 1: necessarily in terms of the receivers. So if the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: go off after a receiver early in this draft, you know,

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Speaker 1: don't be shocked by that this has been really good

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Speaker 1: advertising for Darren's mailbag because Joachim's getting a whole lot

1140
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Speaker 1: of shot outs. Darren, how can people send you questions

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00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: for the mailbag if you just go to easy Cardinals

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Speaker 1: dot com and go to any mailbag, the link is

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Speaker 1: right there. Well, you know, some criticize paused. Somebody's got

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Speaker 1: to play the heavy, you know, if it isn't Craig

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Speaker 1: Reel around here or the former Kyle I disagree, o'der guard,

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Speaker 1: someone's got to play the heavy on every edition A

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