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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: D four VD aka David Anthony Burke, the artist known

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Speaker 1: Pain has emerged.

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Speaker 2: After a Japanese anime, he created his own alter ego

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Speaker 2: that he has come up with is Pain. This as

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Speaker 2: the Tesla key card to his Tesla is found hidden

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Speaker 2: in a gutter. Why who hides their car keys or

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Speaker 2: their key card in a gutter and leaves.

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Speaker 1: It in that trunk of that tesla.

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Speaker 2: A little girl, Celeste just thirteen years old, when she

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Speaker 1: His trunk Tonight, no arrest? I mean, is he Grace?

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Speaker 2: This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for

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Speaker 2: being with us tonight. The conspiracy theorists online sleuthing has exploded, with.

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Speaker 1: Literally dozens and dozens of.

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Speaker 2: Theories all centering around one thing, the SOD defense.

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Speaker 1: Some other dude did it.

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Speaker 2: But before we wander into the fantasy land of what

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Speaker 2: might have happened, let's talk about what has happened. As

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Speaker 2: we go to air tonight, we learn the key card too.

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Speaker 2: D FORVD aka David aka David Anthony Burks Tesla, the

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Speaker 2: one with the dead body and the front the front

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Speaker 2: trunk of his very expensive luxury tesla.

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Speaker 1: That key card to that tesla? Oh there you go?

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Speaker 2: Why is it hidden in the gutter? Joining me an

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Speaker 2: all star panel to make sense of what we are learning?

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Speaker 2: Straight out to Christina Gonzalez joining us, A war winning

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Speaker 2: investigative reporter, Fox A Loving kt TV joining us from

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Speaker 2: this jurisdiction, Christina, why is the key card in the gutter?

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Speaker 3: And you know, keep in mind, to be fair, there's

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Speaker 3: like three other teslas on that block. But I have

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Speaker 2: Dave mag joining me Crime Stories investigative reporter, where's the

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Speaker 2: key card found?

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Speaker 4: It?

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Speaker 2: Reportedly goes to David Anthony Burke's tesla And why is

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Speaker 1: What do we know?

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Speaker 5: Well, we know that it was found by a neighbor

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Speaker 5: and it was found in the gutter, and the neighbor

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Speaker 5: actually picked it up Nancy and turned it into police.

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Speaker 5: But as is the Dayna, she posted it or she

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Speaker 2: I'm going to follow it with Steve Fisher in a

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Speaker 2: moment about all the dust on that Tesla and what,

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Speaker 2: if anything, it means. But let me stick with the

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Speaker 2: key card. First joining me is Scott Iiker, digital forensics expert,

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Speaker 2: founding member of the FBI Cellular Analysis Survey Team, who

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Speaker 2: is an expert in Tesla's and their key card. Now,

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Speaker 2: according to reports we've gotten Scott, and I'm waiting to

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Speaker 2: confirm this that key card goes with David Anthony Burk's Tesla.

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Speaker 2: If not, I'm sure we'll find out. Explain to me

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Speaker 2: the significance of that key card.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I ought a Tesla, and when I bought the car,

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Speaker 6: as a two thousand and two model Y, they gave

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Speaker 6: me two key cards. They looked like little credit cards

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Speaker 6: and you put it on the center podsol and you

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Speaker 6: can start your car. Most people will hide those away.

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Speaker 6: I put those in the safe of my house because

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Speaker 6: I don't need them, because they can use my phone

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Speaker 6: once I set it up correctly to drive, open and

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Speaker 6: review all the camera stuff on my car. So the

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Speaker 6: key cards are important initially, but then most of the

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Speaker 6: time they're hidden away for when your phone dies or

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Speaker 2: Guys, just look at that. We're getting that from uh

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Speaker 2: Steve Fisher Investigates And the shot of the Tesla key

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Speaker 1: Running Back seven seven seven.

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Speaker 2: On Reddit Scott Iiker. Can't the key card be loaned out? Like,

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Speaker 2: if you want someone to borrow your car, you can

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Speaker 2: let them you use the key card?

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes you can. You can buck in because it

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Speaker 6: you can give it to a valet if you wanted to,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to circle back to you in a moment,

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Speaker 2: Scott Ker, because I want to find out everything I

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Speaker 2: Tesla's give you a three hundred and sixty degree view

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Speaker 2: Now where's the stick? Will the car operate without the stick?

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Speaker 2: Has the USB stick been removed from that Tesla? From

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Speaker 2: Burke's Tesla is what's on the stick also recorded in

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Speaker 1: Isn't it true Christina.

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Speaker 2: Gonzalez joining US Fox eleven KTTV that a raid was

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Speaker 2: conducted on Burke aka David aka D four vd's home,

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Speaker 2: his mansion now I know valued it over four million

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Speaker 2: dollars and a lot of digital evidence, computers, digital equipment

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Speaker 1: Isn't that true?

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Speaker 3: Yes, they took quite a bit of computer equipment and electronics.

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Speaker 2: That is confirmed.

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Speaker 1: By Scott Eiker.

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Speaker 2: If this key card had been damaged by the elements,

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Speaker 2: you saw it right, It looked wet, it looks degraded.

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Speaker 2: Can that be rehabilitated to make sure it belongs to

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling you, if somebody.

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Speaker 2: Threw away the key to my minivan, it's like finding

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Speaker 2: a needle in a haystake. But I would find it.

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Speaker 2: That shot from running back seven seven seven on Reddit.

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Speaker 6: The key card itself is like a credit card. If

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Speaker 6: it's broken damage, yeah, it might be a problem identifying it.

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Speaker 6: But it's like a programmable credit card, and just like

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Speaker 6: than the elements that are on it. I doubt someone

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Speaker 6: where it was found. It's more likely to drop it.

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Speaker 6: It's in like the God of the street. But you

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Speaker 2: I want to remind everyone that as we go to

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Speaker 1: Josh, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 2: This would not be the first time that a killer

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Speaker 4: Well, that's right, but this is certainly odd, just like

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Speaker 4: other pieces of evidence in this case. You are odd.

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Speaker 4: And what I don't like about this if I'm a prosecutor,

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Speaker 4: how do you know that this wasn't placed after the

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Speaker 4: happy about it. Also, maybe if they would have found

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Speaker 2: Well I can answer that, Josh Colsrud, because it wasn't

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Speaker 2: That's why they didn't find it.

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Speaker 4: Well, there were certainly, you know, twenty detectives around there,

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Speaker 4: and you would expect them to search the area. The

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Speaker 4: It's standard operating procedure. The fact that a redditor on

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Speaker 2: Let me correct your statement at Josh Calsrude, you stated

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Speaker 2: that the tesla belonging to Burke aka D four VD

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Speaker 1: It's not just a car. This is a.

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Speaker 2: Car containing his girlfriend's allegedly dead, dismembered body in the

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the crux of the issue. If the evidence

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Speaker 2: Is actually stating too dumb to be guilty. Defense, Well,

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Speaker 2: look at you actually using that people do dumb things

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Speaker 2: all the time. Criminals are not that smart, otherwise they

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be in jail. Go look, you're joining me from Phoenix, Arizona. Correct,

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Speaker 4: So part of what the media is doing is saying

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Speaker 4: how smart David is by foreshadowing in his music what

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Speaker 4: he did in this case. Well, if he did that,

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Speaker 4: he has some intelligence.

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Speaker 2: he's clairvoyant. I'm saying that possibly, just like Scott Peterson

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Speaker 1: A widow and then boom it was.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that the four VD aka David Burke

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that they mirror what's going on in his mind. Well,

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Speaker 4: You are saying that this was his motive that the

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Speaker 4: music that he produced somehow shows his motive in this case.

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Speaker 4: And if that's true, if he was dropping hints and foreshadowing,

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Speaker 4: So if he has a lot of intelligence, why would

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Speaker 4: I'm not there's other issues with that, trust me, in

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Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, let me go back through all

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Speaker 2: my tiktoks. I've a masked of all the conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 4: Could be it could be what you're actually saying, Yes,

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Speaker 4: We don't know that. We don't know it's not suicide.

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Speaker 1: We don't know that she didn't overdose. John, You don't

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Speaker 2: We don't know that little green men from Mars didn't

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Speaker 2: all to frame d four VD. Really is that you're

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that, you know.

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Speaker 2: This reminds me of a theorist that claimed J Simpson's

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Speaker 4: We had, we had forensic evidence in that case that

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Speaker 5: Because of that, there is another theory someone is framing

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Speaker 2: One of the many, many conspiracy theories that are populating

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Speaker 7: So no, the fact that she's been chopped up would

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Speaker 7: Why not just call nine one one.

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Speaker 7: be a problem. Well, I don't think that's natural causes

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Speaker 1: In a child drugs and they die. That's a felony.

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Speaker 2: I want your mind to stay clear as a medical examiner,

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Speaker 2: They report her missing once she's brought back, and then

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to find out if they smell like

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Speaker 2: Who is using drugs around this little girl?

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Speaker 1: Why do we only know? Oh she went off to

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Speaker 2: And then how long passes that nobody sees her? Or

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Speaker 2: that said you were discussing natural or accidental causes? You

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Speaker 2: know who you're reminding me of right now? You know

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Speaker 2: Jose Bias. Do you remember him? He was the lawyer

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Speaker 2: and got a million dollar book deal after that. Kelly Anthony,

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Speaker 2: a little tot girl died naturally by accident in a

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Speaker 7: Well, you can't put blinders on when you're doing an

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Speaker 7: I've seen that a million times before, especially when there's

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Speaker 2: You know, doctor Kimill Crown's I've always told you in

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Speaker 2: such high stain, but I'm seeing you in a whole

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Speaker 2: new light right now, and I believe that you've been

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Speaker 1: Time on TikTok. And this is why.

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Speaker 3: If this is a setup, what a perfect person to

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 8: He's got sad, depressing songs, He's got songs about murdering.

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Speaker 1: He is the perfect candidate to set.

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Speaker 2: Up and frame for a murder.

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Speaker 1: But I think even the true David Fins are really

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Speaker 1: starting to feel like, Bro, you've done this. We know

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Speaker 6: I don't think David did it.

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Speaker 2: I know the ruffleson feathery. I might get mad that

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Speaker 2: I really don't think he did it. I'm gonna be honest.

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Speaker 2: David did not do it.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: David did not do it, like y'all had spread the news, Man,

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Speaker 4: David did not do it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's safe to say that David did not

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Speaker 1: Bro didn't do it, gang, yo, brow Just think about it, Bro.

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Speaker 1: That is from at Killer A three.

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Speaker 2: It is from at Qui Co two, from at Taking

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Speaker 2: Hooks and from at ink stacks all on TikTok. I

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Speaker 2: can't wait to look later tonight and see what doctor

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Speaker 2: Kendall Crowns has added. Maybe he will talk in a

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Speaker 2: chipmunk voice, just like our last contributor, Crime Stories with

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Speaker 2: Nancy Grace. Maybe maybe, maybe, But can we talk about

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Speaker 2: the likelihood that someone murdered a little girl that reportedly

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Speaker 2: that would be Burke A. K. David who would have

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Speaker 2: a motive to kill her? And why dismember her and

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Speaker 2: put her in his trunk to frame him? You know?

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Speaker 2: Karen Stark is joining me forensic psychologist, TV radio trauma

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Speaker 2: expert at Karenstark dot com. Karen, that's a lot of

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Speaker 2: work to frame a young musical artist. Why why would

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Speaker 2: anyone want to frame him? That's crazy talk. Do you remember,

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Speaker 2: Karen Stark? When Scott Peterson murdered his wife Lacey and

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Speaker 2: their unborn child, Connor, and one of the defense theories

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Speaker 2: Scott Peterson will be the perfect person to frame, So

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go dump her body where he goes fishing.

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Speaker 2: So this person knows for Scott Peterson fishing and waits

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Speaker 1: That's crazy talk. Well, it doesn't to me.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 9: Nancy. Just I feel the way you do because he

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Speaker 9: So I don't understand why everyone is.

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Speaker 1: Thinking about somebody planting.

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Speaker 9: Her or choosing him. It doesn't make a lot of

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Speaker 2: Celeste is found dead in the trunk of his tesla.

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Speaker 2: Celeste's body was found in a black tube cop and

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Speaker 7: It's obviously a homicide.

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Speaker 2: The big Rock and Roll hit Send Lawyers, Guns and Money,

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Speaker 1: Lawyers, Guns and Money.

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Speaker 2: Number one David aka David Anthony Burke aka D four

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Speaker 2: VD admits his dad is a litigator. Listened not at all.

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Speaker 2: I thought there was a teacher. She doesn't do it anymore,

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Speaker 2: Christina Gonzalez joining us Fox eleven KTTV. Has he issued

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Speaker 3: Not from day one, Not from day one, even as

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Speaker 6: Nothing.

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Speaker 3: It was his pep who said he was mote cooperating.

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Speaker 2: But wait a minute, did he continue his withered world

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Speaker 3: And that's the question, okay, because one thing is imagine

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Speaker 3: But sadly they find a Yes, he continued the concert.

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Speaker 3: He continued the concert as they found the body. Granted

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Speaker 3: He never issued a statement saying, oh my god, I'm

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Speaker 2: To what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's being well advised by somebody.

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Speaker 2: Josh calls, rejoining US criminal defense attorney and former assistant

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Speaker 2: US attorney, Josh, you don't think that's odd that she

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Speaker 2: He doesn't put out a public appeal to find her. Nothing,

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Speaker 1: Nothing.

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Speaker 4: Everything that he's done after the discovery of the body

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Speaker 4: around him. His father has litigation experience as a tech,

441
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 4: his mother is a teacher, and he has good people

442
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 4: around him at his uh you know, the music industry.

443
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: So that good people. What do you mean by good

444
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: people around him? People to tell you abou't.

445
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 4: Talk no, Only that they are protecting him is what

446
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 4: I mean. Not that they are morally good people. But

447
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 4: what you don't want is a prosecutor to be able

448
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 4: to look at what you say or even what you

449
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 4: don't say and hold it against you later on inside

450
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 4: of a courtroom, because right now there's no direct evidence

451
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 4: that he's involved, at least none that has been disclosed

452
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 4: to the public, and the police are still working on motive,

453
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 4: which hasn't been established here. So what you don't want

454
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 4: is to give them any breadcrumbs leading to yourself, especially

455
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 4: when there's so much suspicions.

456
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Speaker 1: Sund Wish.

457
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Speaker 2: I appreciate all you have to say about all the

458
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 2: quote good people around him protecting him. I'm just stating

459
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 2: if my husband went missing, I would be all over

460
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Speaker 2: the action needs six ten and eleven, begging for somebody

461
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: to help me find him and bring him home. Right.

462
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: I don't care what anybody else has to say, or

463
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 2: all the good people telling me to shut my pie hole.

464
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: No and speaking of people around him.

465
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: As we go to air tonight.

466
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: His manager is speaking out because many people are claiming,

467
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: let's see a shot of that mansion, the one that

468
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: is just blanketed in video cameras. I can't wait to

469
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: see what they reveal. But Dave Mac, in the last hours,

470
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: this is where our friend's over at TMZ. Thanks Harvey Levin,

471
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 2: Dave Mac, the manager, Josh Marshall, and founder of Mogul Vision,

472
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: has taken a TikTok to point out he knows nothing

473
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 2: about any of this.

474
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: He's claiming Dave mac that he did.

475
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Speaker 2: Not live there, as many people state that it wasn't

476
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: his place. He doesn't know about the cameras there, he

477
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: doesn't know what.

478
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: Was going on there.

479
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 2: That he actually lives in Texas with his wife and

480
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: I believe it, has three children.

481
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Speaker 5: Josh Marshall founded mogul Vision, and he is denying any

482
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Speaker 5: and all involvement. And he pointed out a couple of

483
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,719
Speaker 5: very important points Nancy, he does have three children, and

484
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 5: he pointed out he has a daughter that's fourteen years old,

485
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 5: the same age as the victim in the car. He

486
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 5: lives with his wife and children in Texas. And he

487
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 5: also points out he does ninety five percent of his

488
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 5: work from Texas. He does it remotely, as many people

489
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Speaker 5: do these days.

490
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Speaker 2: He did lease that house.

491
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Speaker 5: It was leased in his name, but that's not an

492
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 5: uncommon thing for managers to do for the people they represent.

493
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 5: So Josh Marshall saying no, I'm not involved at all

494
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Speaker 5: and know nothing about it.

495
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: Many online fluths are stating, here's a quote I swear

496
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Speaker 2: to God, I've been saying this to my boyfriend.

497
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Speaker 1: I think Josh did it.

498
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: Girltown In Jay responds, I think he's heavily involved. Okay,

499
00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: and he Josh Marshall, the manager, goes to social media

500
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: and says, I will speak on this matter, just this

501
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: one time. This has been a tough time for my family.

502
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: I'm a father of three. I receive no emails and

503
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm no one's roommate. In other words, emails that his

504
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: client was with a young girl. I live full time

505
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: at home with my wife and kids. My daughter's for fourteen,

506
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: and this news is affecting so many lives. I have

507
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: zero knowledge of anything, and I don't even live in California.

508
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: So the online sluthor so desperate for a conspiracy theory

509
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: to point the finger at somebody else, They're now pointing

510
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: the finger at his manager, who was not even.

511
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Speaker 1: On the scene.

512
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Speaker 2: Oh, Josh calsrud, I guess you can't blame him.

513
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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I don't think that there is any

514
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 4: evidence showing that the manager is involved. And also, you know,

515
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 4: there was kind of a controversy that David moved out

516
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 4: of his house abruptly. But what people don't understand was

517
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 4: that the manager was for this and as soon as

518
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 4: David stopped making money for the company, you know, they

519
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,239
Speaker 4: kicked him out. Essentially they're no longer making money. So

520
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 4: I think the manager is being responsible. He wants to

521
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 4: distance himself.

522
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: The manager did not kick Burke out of that mansion.

523
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're saying.

524
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 4: Well, he was the one that was paying for it,

525
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 4: and he's the one that broke the leaves. The manager did.

526
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 4: It wasn't David, and he did know.

527
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: The manager may have been writing checks for it or

528
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: sending transmissions, but that money came from his client Burke. Marshall,

529
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: the manager wasn't living there, and he had obtained that

530
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: mansion for Burke to live in, not him. He wasn't

531
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Speaker 2: living there. He has never lived there, and the point

532
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: is that is a dead end.

533
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: Marshall. The manager had nothing to do with this.

534
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: But speaking of those in the know, we were talking

535
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: about send lawyers, guns and money. Burke's mom spotted out

536
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: shopping for an a R fifteen semi automatic.

537
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: Wow.

538
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 5: The singer's mother silent regarding her son. But Colleen Burke

539
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 5: caught on camera leaving a Texas gun store with what

540
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 5: appears to be a large security man standing nearby. In

541
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,959
Speaker 5: her hands an instruction manual for an AR fifteen semi automatic.

542
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 5: Not clear if she purchased anything, but it is the

543
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 5: first time she's been seen in public since the decomposing

544
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 5: remains of a child found in her son's tesla.

545
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: I wonder if his family members or others are getting

546
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: threats and feel they got to arm themselves. Crime stories

547
00:31:54,920 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: with Nancy Grace. That said, and now I want to

548
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: talk about the money.

549
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 5: Listen, many people wondered how a twenty year old he

550
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 5: could be driving a Tesla and renting a home for

551
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 5: twenty thousand dollars a month. At seventeen, Burke signed a

552
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 5: record deal with advanced fees, paying him three million dollars guaranteed,

553
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 5: with a contract that was valued at six million if

554
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 5: certain goals were met. As part of the deal. Burke

555
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 5: already released two EPs, one full album and was on

556
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 5: a world tour promoting that album when Celeste was found

557
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 5: decomposing in his tesla.

558
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: That's a lot of money.

559
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: Speaking of all the money and the manager straight back

560
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: out to Steve Fisher joining us. Steve Fisher, the manager

561
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: Marshall took to social media to deny any involvement. He

562
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: actually sent that response to you, and he referred to

563
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: an email.

564
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: What email he's.

565
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: Saying, I didn't know about any email. What email is

566
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: he talking about.

567
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Speaker 8: So I got contacted by somebody very close to the

568
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 8: family that told, you know, showed me an email that

569
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 8: was sent to Josh and somebody else in his camp

570
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 8: when she first went missing in twenty twenty four. They

571
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 8: had learned that she was likely with him, and they

572
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 8: sent a letter to him. And I'll just say his

573
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 8: wife also saying, you know, here's from missing poster. She's

574
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 8: thirteen years old. She is with this guy, and then

575
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 8: the next day she showed up back home. And so

576
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 8: I think for Josh to say that he knows nothing

577
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 8: about this is disingenuous. And I will say LAPD called

578
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 8: them up.

579
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: Do you know he got the email? Do you know

580
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: the email address? So we don't know that you got

581
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: the email.

582
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: You said it was sent to his wife. Who's telling

583
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: you all this the person.

584
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 8: Who sent the email. And I will say LAPD called

585
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 8: last week when I put that out, and they now

586
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 8: have a copy of the email, and they did verify

587
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 8: that the email address is correct. Whether you open it

588
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 8: or not, we don't know, but she did show up

589
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 8: the next day. But LAPD has the letter. They requested

590
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 8: it and they have it.

591
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 5: Friends of Burke thought Celeste was nineteen and his girlfriend,

592
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 5: describing Burke as a very shy, quiet person. Friends said

593
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 5: they saw Burke and Celesti together a lot as a

594
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 5: romantically involved couple. Thinking Celeste was a student at usc

595
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 5: Friends of Burke saw Celestia at age restricted venues and clubs.

596
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 2: So apparently she was being passed off as much older

597
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: than she actually was. And I'm noticing all the photos

598
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: that are posted off her, She's always covering her face.

599
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: Very curious.

600
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: Check it out, photo after photo after photo, she always

601
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: has her face covered very quickly. To Karen Stark, joining

602
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: us forends, it's psychologist. Karen, I want to touch on

603
00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 2: the fact that Burke's alter ego Pain has emerged. Can

604
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: I see what he posted regarding his alter ego? Karen

605
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 2: Stark says, we've officially named the Blindfold character. His name

606
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: is Etami, that means pain and Japanese, and in all

607
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: of the videos after that, he personifies Etami. His alter id.

608
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 2: His alter ego is quote pain. That's troublesome Karen Stark, Well.

609
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 9: It's something that doesn't surprise me, Nancy, because it's a

610
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 9: great way for him to cover up or not be

611
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 9: associated with that part of him that is perhaps homicidal

612
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 9: or talking about death and killing. So he doesn't do

613
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 9: it through David to himself. He does it through his

614
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 9: alter ego, which keeps him innocent to make it be

615
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 9: okay to have that dark side of their personality.

616
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: You know, that's I just find that very disturbing. You know,

617
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: I've got a lot of nicknames for my children. My

618
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 2: son is awesome, he is big boy. He is my son,

619
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: My daughter is little Girl, my angel Mini me pain

620
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: is not really one of them. But I'm sure Josh

621
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: Colesry would object that coming into evidence. That said, an

622
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 2: ultra ego name does not a murder case make. So

623
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 2: let's talk about hard evidence. Back to Scott Aiker, joining

624
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: US digital forensics expert, founding member of the FBI Cellular

625
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: Analysis Survey Team. He is at PCA Experts dot com

626
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: Precision Cellular Analysis. Scott, I want to talk about the Tesla.

627
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 2: What evidence, if any, can I get from all of

628
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: those cameras on the Tesla?

629
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Speaker 6: Well, the Tesla has a trove of information, not only

630
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 6: the cameras that are recording almost all the time in

631
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,479
Speaker 6: Century mode. That's basically when you park the car, someone

632
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 6: comes up to the car, it actually activates the camera

633
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 6: and sends that stuff to a USB drive in the car.

634
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 6: That USB drive can be removed, a new one can

635
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 6: be replaced when it's full. You could delete that information

636
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 6: from the USB drive either via the app or while

637
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 6: you're in the car. But there's a ton much stuff

638
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 6: that that Tesl records, not only the cameras, but the

639
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 6: telematics of the car, when it was driven, how far

640
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 6: it was driven, stuff like that. There's even a camera

641
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 6: that's facing the driver now that's used for the full

642
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 6: self driving mode to make sure you're still awake, you're

643
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 6: paying attention to the road. And I believe that's still

644
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 6: stored in the car itself. I don't believe there's anything

645
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 6: stored in the cloud, but it's all stored in the car.

646
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 6: That USB drive and they do a extraction of the

647
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 6: data from the Tesla itself has going to be a

648
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 6: trove of information. Not only that, there's a phone in

649
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 6: the car, embedded in the car, so you can use

650
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 6: find the records for that phone and see what towers

651
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 6: it is using. There's just so much information they're going

652
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 6: to get from this Tesla.

653
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: Scott Iiker, are you telling me that all of that

654
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: data is not stored in the cloud, that if someone

655
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 2: throws away or destroys the USB, it's over. I can't

656
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: recover that.

657
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 6: That's what I understand. In my Tesla, there's a USB,

658
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 6: and when I can learn, even on my app and

659
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Speaker 6: look at the recordings from the cameras, it says it's

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Speaker 6: connecting to the car to get that data, not to

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Speaker 6: a cloud.

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Speaker 1: From what I understand, the Tesla.

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Speaker 2: Has a front facing camera, two cameras on the windshield,

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Speaker 2: two cameras on the side fenders, a rear facing camera

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Speaker 2: and gets a three hundred and sixty degree view of

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Speaker 2: the Tesla's environment while driving. The dash cam uses exterior

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Speaker 2: cameras recording footage in a loop, continuously capturing the car's surroundings.

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Speaker 2: My question is, Scott Iiker, I assume that includes the trunk,

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Speaker 2: the front facing trunk. There would be a camera on

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Speaker 2: the trunk that would presumably have caught whoever put her

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Speaker 2: body in it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that is correct, that'd be the dash camera, the

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Speaker 6: one that's facing outward from the car, not inside the car,

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Speaker 6: and it faces right down the hood of the car,

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Speaker 6: So there should be footage of whoever's accessing the front

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Speaker 6: or the front trunk of that car, and all around

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Speaker 6: the car as they walk up to it.

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Speaker 2: Another question you mentioned century mode century sentry for instance,

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Speaker 2: like a guardian a century place. Say let's pretend around

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Speaker 2: a military fort. Right, would you have to disable the

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Speaker 2: sentry mode like you unlock a car remote in order

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Speaker 2: to get in the car or would it set off

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Speaker 2: an alarm? I'm just trying to figure out if that

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Speaker 2: car was moved to place to place to place along

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Speaker 2: that high end neighborhood street, someone would have to know

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Speaker 2: how to disable.

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Speaker 1: The sentry mode to crank up the car and move it.

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Speaker 6: No, the centry mode itself turns off as you come

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Speaker 6: up to the car with the key, so it turns

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Speaker 6: out that part off. Then you're allowed to enter the

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Speaker 6: car and then drive it, so it's only recording as

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Speaker 6: its part.

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Speaker 1: Can anybody remove the USB?

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Speaker 2: Like, where's the USB kept in the vehicle?

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Speaker 6: It's actually in the globbox. Surprisingly, you open the glovebox

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Speaker 6: and it's just sitting right there. You can pull it

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Speaker 6: out and put another one in if you needed to.

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Speaker 2: This case is ongoing. It is under investigation as we speak.

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Speaker 2: No arrest has been named, no person of interest has

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Speaker 2: been named. We want justice for this little girl, Celeste.

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Speaker 2: If you know or think you know anything, even if

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Speaker 2: you think it is insignificant, please dial two one three

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Speaker 2: four eight six six eight nine zero. Repeat two one, three, four,

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Speaker 2: eight six six eight nine zero. We will get answers

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Speaker 2: as to what happened to Celeste. Grieve us and now

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Speaker 2: we remember an American hero, Deputy Sheriff Michael Hartwick of

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Speaker 2: Penelas County, Florida, killed in the line of duty, serve

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Speaker 2: nineteen years with the Sheriff's office and leaves behind two

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Speaker 2: grieving sons, William and Brandon. American hero Deputy Sheriff Michael Hartwick.

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Speaker 2: Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend,