WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: D-Line Decisions? 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:04.880 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:16.280 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:20.119 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:31.320 Star in Frisco. Sat. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us, 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:37.200 Rob Phillips and Bill Jones, and welcome into Talking Cowboys. 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:42.800 Rob Phillips, Brian brought us Mickey Spagnola. Happy mondayed everybody 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.240 out there. A couple more practices, a couple more open 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:48.120 practices here at the Star in Frisco. And that's a 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:52.000 rap for training camp twenty nineteen. Cowboys fresh off a 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:57.600 thirty four to nothing preseason victory Zephyr, the Governor's Cup? 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:01.080 Does that count? Break up the Cowboys? Yeah? Over the 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:03.200 Houston week we get the Governor's Cup on this one. 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.040 I didn't see an after game ceremony or anything like that. 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:09.360 I don't think that qualifies. But it was a heck 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.640 of a performance by your Cowboys. I believe it was 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:18.039 the first home preseason shutout since nineteen seventy seven. You 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:20.959 looked it up, Nick Eatman had that stat first shot 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:26.199 out since twenty twelve. If I'm not right, if I'm old. Uh, yeah, 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:29.320 it sounds right, sure Oakland. Okay, you know what happened 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:34.800 in seventy seven man, Yeah, could be an omen mick 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:41.560 or not. Let's not read too much into it. But well, 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:43.920 we'll spend some time over the next hour kind of 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:48.080 looking into that game. Who stood out, who separated themselves, 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:50.760 who might have made the team based off of that performance. 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:54.880 We'll also take questions off of periscope and uh, potentially 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:59.840 some phone calls as well. So Kayton got that number ready? 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.160 I don't know. He ignored me when I asked if 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:03.840 you were taking calls today. I think you did that 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:05.840 on purpose, he did. We might not be taking Go 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:07.560 and give your cell phone number out there, Robert, and 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:10.000 you just gotta give everybody an opportunity to give us 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.880 a call. Sure, anytime now? You go first? Yeah, Rob's 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.760 phone number is no. Who'd you like in this game 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:20.920 the other night? Um? Pretty much everybody on defense? Defense 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.359 playing pretty well? Guys, that first defense playing pretty well, Mickey, 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.560 pretty pretty well. And it doesn't matter who you're playing 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.080 against because they did what you should do, even if 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:32.600 they got their slappies out there. Sure, so interesting word, 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.000 he's not wrong. Get out there and do what you 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:38.359 gotta do. And when you can create that many turnovers 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:42.239 and that much pressure on an opposing quarterback, you're you're 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:46.680 doing something right. So yeah, I thought that was awfully 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:49.280 impressive from a team. As a whole. You know, you 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:52.200 can look at and say, Okay, Tacco did this, Tacco 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.040 did that, Carrie Hider did this or that, But as 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:59.400 a whole, I thought they played together. The backside, the pressure, 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:04.320 the blitz is takeaways, you couldn't beat it. I mean, 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.720 it was just a total performance. And as the head 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:10.560 coach said, we're not even close. Yeah, I think, to me, 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.880 this is the second week in a row where your 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:16.880 twos and threes were clearly better than someone else's twos 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:20.680 and threes, which hasn't happened, not very often recently, Yeah, 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:23.280 not very often. And you know those were two playoff teams, 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.839 you know, the rams and then also then the detections. 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.240 So the fact that you kind of took it your 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:33.639 backups took it to them, and I was focusing on 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:37.200 you know this, This secondary continues to impress me. It 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.800 doesn't matter who they throw out there, you know, whether 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:47.000 Woozier and Brown Lewis whoever they throw out there a Lumba. 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:50.320 I mean these guys, I mean Wilson, these guys are 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.760 gone out there and made some plays. They've done a 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.760 really nice job of going in. Mickey's right about how 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:58.560 they've attacked people. Yeah, and they mean that the front 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:01.960 has done in the Front seven has done a really 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.560 nice job those young kids. And I was talking to 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:08.160 Rod Marinelli before the game, and I was asking him 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.400 about I was asking about, you know, lining these guys 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.760 up and now they still you know, you have he 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:15.840 got an idea of who you're gonna keep and all that, 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:18.279 he says. He goes, you know, no, He goes, no, Brian, 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.320 I tell you, I tell you if I knew, And 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.200 he goes, but I just want to see I got 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.400 two more games. And he goes, And a lot of 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:27.800 these guys are gonna get snaps. And I even asked 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:31.320 him about Taco and he honestly said, you know. He says, 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.000 Taco is improving and this is for the game. He says, 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.000 Tacos improved. He says, but I want to see Taco 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:39.159 be tougher. I want to see more toughness from him. 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:40.760 He goes, I've told him this I got I want 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:44.000 more toughness from you. And you know, I felt like, though, 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:46.840 if you want to take something away from what Taco 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:49.800 happened to the game, he got hurt and came back 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.920 and tried to play in the game. Old Taco would 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:55.719 have not done that. Old Taco would have gone over 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:57.799 there and sat next to Britt Brown and Jim Mauer 0:04:57.839 --> 0:04:59.400 and figured out a way not to play the rest 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.640 of that football game. But he came back in. Is 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.560 it still enough? We'll see? I think some people have 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:09.440 their opinion about what Taco is, but I know for 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.880 a fact that there has been some improvement there. The 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:16.240 coaches are noticing. No, is it enough We'll see here 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:21.080 in about five or six days. Heck of a performance 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:25.520 by him, and he's gotten a ton of reps in 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.839 these first three preseason games. It can't. Yeah, he did, 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.600 and he's got a lot more competition. You know. It's 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.679 funny because we were talking about George Selvie last week 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.960 and how there was a point in time when Rod 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.559 Marinelli was running this defense where they were signing guys 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.320 off the couch to come in here and just try 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.240 and start in the middle of the season. And I 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.640 think they've reached a point now where we're talking about 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:51.080 you know, twelve thirteen guys that are like, wow, all 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.599 these guys have at least enough talent to make an 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.920 NFL rob. Yeah, their their pro department in college department 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.520 is humming right now because they're doing a good job. 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:04.240 And again that talks about continuity, you know, And I'll 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:06.680 give Jason Garrett credit. I think Jason Garrett's one of 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:10.080 the best evaluating coaches that I've seen. I mean, it 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.000 was with Parcels and guys like that, but as far 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.680 as evaluating talent and know what they need, I think 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.520 he does a really good job with that evaluation side 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.400 of it. He knows what kind of get players. But 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:24.320 it's continuity. You got continuity with the scheme, you got 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:27.680 continuity with the coaching staff. You've got continuity that kind 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.919 of helps you be able to build the team the 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.400 right way. And you got a head coach that understands personnel. 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.720 And I don't give him nearly enough credit for his 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:40.560 personnel the hat that he wears, because this roster is 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.680 clearly better with some of his influence here. Well, it's 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:50.720 better because oh they took Bill Jones's headset away. Oh no, 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:56.239 Bill Jones is here, Katon Bill Jones is here, headset back, Yeah, 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.880 he can listen to us for now, I can hear you. 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.240 He could hear us, Sam headset Yeah, take a phone call. 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:04.240 That's one of those phone calls that you got to 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.039 take or else you're playing phone tag rest of the 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.920 Afterno glad you could make it. You know, it's funny 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.800 I'm listening to I mean, we're just talking about Taco 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.680 and stuff, and then I just looked down at the 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:19.480 periscope and people are saying Taco got coverage sacks. They 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.040 don't want to give a guy credit for I mean, 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:25.000 his first sack was total effort. Sure, I mean he 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.440 beat two guys to get to the go to get 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.800 to get the sack. So people not again you have 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.000 he even said it. We played the clip during the broadcast. 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.040 You either have people he's gonna he's got people either 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.360 gonna be with him or people that are against him. 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.840 So no, yeah, I mean, and I just it's unfortunately 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.920 a guy can have a good two or three plays 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:48.480 in a game, you know, but we we say, no, 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.760 I was coverage sack. He's not that good of a player. 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:52.840 He can't do that. I mean we've watched him now 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:56.200 for a month just about he's gotten better you can 0:07:56.280 --> 0:08:00.560 say which he's gotten better and day after days been there. 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.240 To Brian's point, he's been productive in practice. This has 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.120 just been a carry over to that. Now, Mick, do 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:06.920 you have any kind of update on what is it 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.200 was an ankle? I didn't. It was an ankle or knee. 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.600 So when we left, when I walked him towards the 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:14.320 training room, he said, yeah, I'm going to get it 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.920 checked out. And I said ankle or knee. He goes yeah. Oh, 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:19.800 he goes, I don't know if I'm supposed to say. 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.280 And I said, so, you're gonna throw the hockey term 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:26.160 at me, lower lower body body injury and he goes, yeah, 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.480 that's what it is, the lower body injury. He took 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.360 a big shot on that knee. Hey, look, he didn't 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:35.160 get coverage sacks before, right, Okay, yeah, he didn't get any. 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.960 So you know he's making steps in the right direction. 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:42.080 And you've got to remember that if they get rid 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.520 of him, either cut him or trade him, he's going 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.120 to count three and a half million dollars in dead 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:52.079 money against the cap immediately immediately, So be careful how 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.400 you're cutting your team already. I don't know if people 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:56.360 are saying they're going to do that. I think he 0:08:56.440 --> 0:09:00.640 made some comments after the first preseason game of they 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.440 were kind of cryptic. It was like very It was like, 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.079 you know, I'm trying to dominate out on the field, 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:07.840 but I talked to my agent all the time and 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.280 we kind of know the situation, and you know, it 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.319 was kind of like, Okay, what do you mean by that? Yeah, 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:14.920 and I'm sure he knows. Look, he's looking at this 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:17.240 step chart. He knows it's the it's the most competition 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.360 he's faced since he's been here, the most depth they've had. 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.800 But based on performance Promacy had the other night, I 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.080 think he's in position to make this team. Yeah, but 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:27.800 a lot of people look at it that he's also 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:33.440 at a position where he raised his trade stock. But again, 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.360 when you look at those numbers, but yeah, you're right. 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.680 When you're trying to sign a bunch of guys and 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.000 you need all the cap space you got, you need 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:43.679 to do it right. You better be careful. Just thrown 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.440 away cap money. They don't care about Jerry's money, but 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:48.840 cap money is important. I asked Mickey and it's the 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.960 ankle on Taco so ankle. That's what they're working on, 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.200 all right, A lot of those lines at the defensive 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:58.800 end position. Tyrone Crawford, Right, he's came off pup and 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.600 so he's ready to go. He's a team captain type 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:04.199 on this team. But when you look at the salary 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:08.480 cap situation his now he would count for four million 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:12.160 or so dead money if but it's six million that 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.640 they would say basically that's his salary, his base salary 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.959 for this year. Yeah, set Tacos is guaranteed, right, That's 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:22.559 why he's that's more later draft Crowfits is it guaranteed? 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:24.760 First round? He's got two years left on his deal 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.640 and right, But but anyway, I don't know. I don't 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.480 know how you cut Crawfit. I don't either. I don't, 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.320 But I wasn't. I wasn't trying to attack you, Bill. 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.839 I understand what you were trying to maybe maybe if 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:38.199 you're talking about moving money or giving money or saving money. 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:42.000 I just think I think that they've got this situation 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.280 in a good spot with these defensive linemen. And if 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:48.480 it means if it means Crawfits, you're start Okay, you 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:50.839 got Quinn out for a couple of weeks because of 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.520 the suspension. I have no problem throwing Doword's Armstrong in 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:56.959 a game right now. I really don't the way I 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.040 mean the way him if you'd say he could play 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:02.760 as a rotational rusher. No, yeah. If Crawford starts and 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:06.040 I have to play somebody at right end, I'll play. 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:09.120 I'll play Lawrence at right as to me Armstrong Armstrong 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.640 at right end, but you're hider, but you can hide 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.600 them at at left end because the first game you're 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:16.680 not going to send to Marcus Lawrence out there and 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:21.120 play sixty five snaps. No. I'm just saying, though, if if, if, if, 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.000 people are talking about getting rid again Bill, I'm not 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:25.960 talking about it. I'm just saying, if you're one of 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:29.480 these folks that's thinking, let's move on from Crawford, I 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:31.920 understand if you want to do this in the in 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.240 the spring next I you know, if you want to 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:38.480 have that discussion, great, But right now he's one of 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:42.000 my better I mean, I understand why he I never 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.480 thought he wasn't going to start. I mean, everybody's like, oh, 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.680 Robert Quinn. They traded for Robert Quinn in my opinion, 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:53.000 because they had not signed Lawrence yet. That's why they 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:55.400 I felt like they were going to protect themselves. But 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:57.199 I never thought Quinn was going to be the starter, 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.520 right in. Never thought that he's the pass rusher over there. Yes, 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.360 and then you kick Crawford inside to let him play 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.559 with with Collins. Yeah. Now you got Kerrie Hyder who 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.800 can also go inside and rush. Sure, absolutely, And and 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:13.319 Tristan Hills starting to take some steps forward. He may 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.480 have put the menu down in the in the dining 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:20.480 car right now. Arnelly said something about him last week. 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.960 He noticed something different in his pad level, his technique 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:28.080 in the second half the Rams game, right, and he 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:31.719 carried it over to practice. So Hill Hill, Yeah, and 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.240 that's part of a rookie evaluation. Can you can you 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.240 get that technique down to where he can finish plays 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.640 and you know, get up the field. He's getting a 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.240 lot of reps he needs. He just needs a little confidence. 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.480 And I think this game and did him wonders making 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.880 that play early against the Texans. I think it was 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.160 their first line, how many although their first line is 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.559 a lot like his second. Yes, I know that is 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.520 a problem. Boy on talking Texans, Well, I was talking 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.040 about that offensive line, especially at left tackle. I mean, 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.360 he signed Matt Kale and he hadn't been out there 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:03.160 yet and he didn't play last year due to a 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:06.360 knee injury. And all right, so how many defensive linemen 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:11.760 are you keeping? Usually about ten? Ten? Yeah? I counted 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:16.040 up the obvious ones and I got nine, not counting 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.200 Robert Quinn because they'll be on the right reserve for 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.559 quit weeks. Yeah, so the end, So you want to 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:22.960 run down those obvious ones, I will stop from the 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:27.160 top in alphabetic No, I guess it's starters, it's number order. 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:32.479 How was that number order? Hyder, Tristan Hill, DeMarcus Lawrence Armstrong, 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:39.000 Christian Covington, MALIEK Collins, Taco Crawford, and Woods. All right, 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:42.080 so was there a Joe Jackson in there? He was 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:46.920 my question mark and jokes, and I think he's practice squad. Okay, 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:49.240 so how many did you get that? That was nine? 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.640 He got nine? Yeah, so ten with Joe Jackson. It 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:55.880 would be ten with Joe Jackson. Quinn on two games suspension, 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:59.200 got Quinn on two games suspension. Yeah, And then I 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.520 got to decide if Daniel Ross makes this team or not. No, 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:06.040 but I think Covington, I don't see you there, right, No, 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.320 I think I think I think your list is really good, 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.719 and I think I think that it's either this is 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.320 gonna sound crazy again because we just talked seven minutes 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.760 about this man, but I think it's gonna if you're 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:19.440 talking about the final two guys, it's Taco and it's 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.200 also Joe Jackson. Those are the two guys I think 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.320 Joe Jackson is. I think Joe Jackson is either nine 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:30.240 or ten on their list, fifth round draft pick who 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.760 showed well, I can have them both right now? Yeah, right. 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.640 Every time Jerry's asked about a young player, he mentions 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.600 Joe Jackson. Ultimately does he make the team? Doesn't mean 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:43.200 he will, but I think Joe Jackson's on this team too. Yeah. 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.720 I mean, but then there's ten bas what the Cowboys 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:50.240 owner's last GM says, Yeah, yeah, they love his motor, 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:55.720 his power rushing, maybe maybe some position flex. And so 0:14:55.920 --> 0:15:02.080 with those ten that included four D tackles meaning Woods, Collins, Cuddington, 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.760 and Hill, and then you've got two D ends and 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:10.600 Hyder and Crawford Russia. It's a good balance there. Yeah, 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:14.440 you know where you get a four four defensive tackles 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:16.720 and four defensive ends and two guys that can go 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:20.880 either way. Yeah, I figured that out. All right, let's go. No, No, 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:25.400 it's always about the flexibility with Marinelli and those guys. 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:27.400 It's just you know, hey, what do I Yeah, that's 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.560 why I was kind of arguing, not arguing. I was 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.840 saying the thing about Crawford. You know, Crawford is gonna 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:34.640 play a lot of snaps for it. He's gonna help 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.880 you at that right in be solid over there playing 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:39.600 the run. He's gonna help you if you have to 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.320 play the nickel because you could put him inside and 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:45.400 run games with him where he's a penetrator and it 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:49.360 allows these ends. You know, he takes the blocks because 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.560 he's got power. You know, he's gonna penetrate. Take somebody 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:54.880 with him, and he's gonna get He's gonna get Jalen 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:57.880 Smith home on a rush. He's gonna get Layton vandersh 0:15:57.960 --> 0:15:59.760 home on a rush. He's gonna get one of those 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.480 in home on a rush. And that's why I mentioned 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.880 Tyrone Crawford and his salary, because if Tyrone Crawford wasn't 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:09.000 a player that they really liked and brought that kind 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:12.560 of value that would be a salary that you could 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:16.160 move and it would benefit the salary as far as 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:19.680 your cap goes and so forth. But he's too valuable. 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.600 I think he's too valuable. I think people. And again 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.920 I'm not I didn't think you were going down the 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.600 line of cutting the guy. I think it was okay 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.880 if you have to say, but I've got this defensive 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:35.360 line like I want it, I do. And my point 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:39.360 on it is, be careful the moves that you're making. 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.880 You've got a position of strength right there, as trade 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.360 way a player or cutting a guy because oh, we 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.800 got so many guys that we can make rooms someplace 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.560 else all of a sudden, that position of strength and numbers, 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:53.560 and it can be the opposite very quick. In this league. 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.480 What year was it was maybe in twenty fifteen where 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.840 they went through like twenty defensive line because of injuries. 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:04.360 Right right now, I absolutely agree with you, so uh 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.720 and who knows, maybe they keep eleven when Quinn comes back. 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.480 You never know how it works out. Yeah, And a 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.680 lot of times some decisions take care of themselves because 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.600 injuries do happen. And when I said last week on 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:18.320 the show, you know if Noel Brown winds up starting 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.320 the season on pop at receiver, Mickey had that from 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.720 the word going, there was a good get Nikki, I 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.560 don't feel like, you know, it has to be six 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:29.280 wide receivers. And I'm the first thing I'm thinking about 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.400 is all these defensive linemen that are worthy of making 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:35.920 an NFL team and so not necessarily Cedric Wilson and 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.000 Devin Smith making this team. And they were just I mean, 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:40.000 it was like they were competing against each other within 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.320 that game, just back and forth, back and forth, and 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:43.760 I don't know, I mean, it may come down to 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:45.800 one or the other because they want to keep an 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.679 extra guy somewhere else, maybe d line. There's a reception 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.880 by Devin's that's a point for him. And now hero 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.840 Cedric Wilson on a punt return, that's a point for him. 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.119 I'm serious. 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