1 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: It's been a year since Victor Heraina stole seven million 2 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: dollars disappeared into the night. By this point, the FBI 3 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: has taken over control of the case, leaving the West 4 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: Harford Police Department at a dead end in their investigation. 5 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Other than Victor being placed on the FBI's infamous Top 6 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: ten most Wanted Fugitives list, public interest in the case fizzled. 7 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: That is, until January six. Three Kings Day, also known 8 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: as Dia de los Reyes or Epiphany, is a religious 9 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: holiday marking the day the Three Wise Men visited Baby Jesus. 10 00:00:52,000 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: In many Spanish speaking communities, it's a celebration rivaling Christmas. Today, 11 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: in Hartford, there's an annual parade featuring community members dressed 12 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: as King's riding camels down Busy Park Street, much to 13 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: the delight for children and onlookers. There's music, food, toy giveaways, 14 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: even a chance for a photo op with the Magi. 15 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: But if we go back several decades, was more of 16 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: an unofficial celebration, kind of like a block party, And 17 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: on that day, in a very different type of procession 18 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 1: caught everyone's attention, you know, all of a sudden, somebody 19 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: showed up with this big tractor trailer full of toys 20 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: and started luring into kids on Park Street, which is 21 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: the heart of the Puerto Rican commuter at Hartford. The 22 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: weather was in the brisk thirties, but that didn't stop 23 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: curious community members from gathering around the local moving company's truck, 24 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: parked a few miles away from the parade route used today. 25 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: Over two hours, three men just as the MAGI handed 26 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: out forty dollars worth of toys, food and cash. It 27 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: was an exciting occasion for locals, but to West Harford 28 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 1: police officers, something just didn't feel right. Fromhow there must 29 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: have been some information passed on to the copts. There 30 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: are somebody took them the number of the trackers. They 31 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: found out about it, and the truck was sees eventually 32 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: and brought to the detective. The worst hapic they used 33 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: the Prince who identified these guys in the truck. And 34 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: then the amazing thing is that we've found it. Surprising 35 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: was when the the money shows up that was traceable money. 36 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: He showed up there because some of the builds were traceable, 37 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: you know, so that I'm thinking myself, my god, there's 38 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: some kind of control of all his money. Where did 39 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: it come from? How how these guys getting this money? 40 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: The answer to that question would breathe new life into 41 00:02:54,960 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: a stalled investigation. How did thousands of dollars stolen the 42 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: previous year from Wells Fargo end up being used to 43 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: buy a truck full of toys for kids? Now he's 44 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: standing to think of something. It's organized here previously on 45 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: White Eagle. It's like all of a sudden, this guy 46 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: just existed and there wasn't a lot of background, a 47 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: bottom to the head. Each day we put another piece 48 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: of the puzzle together, you know, pieces here, and there 49 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: was not the fit. Everybody figured that Victor herain it 50 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: was the inside man, and everybody's waiting for his body 51 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: to pop up someplace. My name is zem William Phelps. 52 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm an investigative journalist and author of more than forty 53 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: true crime books. What you were about to hear is 54 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: the true story of a heist, one that funded an 55 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: international independence movement and sparked an investigation spanning nearly four decades. 56 00:03:53,520 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: This is White Eagle. Every story has its origin. This 57 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: one is no different. Investigators looking to understand how and 58 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: why Victor Harrain has stole seven million dollars in cash 59 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: needed to first consider his connection to Puerto Rico. There 60 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: was a time and maybe the seventies and at least 61 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: end of the early eighties, when I think they were 62 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: more Puerto Rican people in Hartford on a per capita basis, 63 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: and we were any place Celts except for Puerto Rico. 64 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: It was a very, very big influential immigrant group, immigrants 65 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: that the United States citizens for the people from the 66 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: island looking at Hartford were a big part of the 67 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: stake's makeup. That said Mahoney, the Hartford current reporter who 68 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: spoke in the last episode. He caught himself during our discussion, 69 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: but people often forget that Puerto Ricans are in fact 70 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: U S citizens, maybe because they lacked the right to 71 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: do basic things such as vote in a presidential election. 72 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: But more on that later. For now, it's important to 73 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: understand that Hartford is home to one of the largest 74 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: Puerto Rican communities in the United States. More than forty 75 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: of the city's population identifies as Hispanic or Latino, and 76 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: according to some estimates, one out of every three Harford 77 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: residents is of Puerto Rican descent. It's an important group, 78 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: and it was an important group then I mean candidates 79 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: for office in Puerto Rico would occasionally campaigned in Hartford, 80 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and kind of like the 81 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: quasi embassy in Hartford. There were so many people in Hartford, 82 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: did the government of the commonwealth headed office to look 83 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: after them. Hartford had reciprocity agreements with Puerto Rico. Puerto 84 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: Rico would send groups of teachers from university students who 85 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: are studying to become teachers to work in Harvard, either 86 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: as trainees or to work at Hartford, which kind of 87 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: made sense because so many kids in the school system 88 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: or from Puerto Rico. Large groups of Puerto Ricans first 89 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: started coming to Connecticut after World War Two, looking for 90 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: seasonal work on one of the countless tobacco farms along 91 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: sections of the Connecticut River. Many stayed and built the 92 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: vibrant community in Hartford in parts of West Harford. Park Street, 93 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: which runs east to west along the city's south end, 94 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: is the community's main artery. If you're dropped off on 95 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: Park Street, um, you're definitely going to get the food, 96 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: You're going to get the language, and you're gonna get 97 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: the vibe. Joel Cruz is a lifelong Hartford resident and 98 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: senior director of the city's Institute for the Hispanic Family, 99 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: which is part of Catholic Charities and co sponsors the 100 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: Three Kings they parade every year. You'll see people you 101 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: know talking outside and connecting. The embracement you know, for 102 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: us is very important. The close proximity of like the 103 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: hugs and the kisses, and Joel describes Harford's Puerto Rican 104 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: community as extremely tightening. It had to be, he says, 105 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: because for decades there was little to no public support 106 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: for Spanish speakers in the city. That's part of the 107 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: reason the Institute for the Hispanic Family grew into what 108 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: it is today. It provides opportunities for support and connection, 109 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: help that wasn't made available for people like Joel's grandfather 110 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: who left Puerto Rico in the fifties and came to 111 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: Hartford seeking opportunity. I think that's the sense of people 112 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: that came to Hartford and settled in Hartford, specifically from 113 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: the Puerto Rican community. It's more like I'm just trying 114 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: to survive, and if you ask me, I don't agree. 115 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm not happy, but I'm just trying to survive for 116 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: folks who like my dad who saw the racism, who 117 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: saw the the abuse, who saw all the inequalities, especially 118 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: like you know, US versus Puerto Rico. He has his 119 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: reservations about, like how Puerto Rico has been treated like 120 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: a colony, and I see it, like when I go 121 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: to Puerto Rico, I can see it's treated like a 122 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: colony more than part of the U s or with 123 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: fair treatment. It's a world Victor Harana would have known well. 124 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: His mother, Gloria, was born in Puerto Rico and migrated 125 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: to the US, settling first in the Bronx and later Hartford, 126 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: where she raised Victor and his four siblings. Like Joel, 127 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: Gloria worked at the Institute for the Hispanic Family. She 128 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: was one of the region's first bilingual social workers and 129 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: spent forty five years with the organization, working primarily with 130 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: young kids. Joel says everyone called her La Madrina, which 131 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: translates to the godmother. He says they'd often eat lunch together, 132 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: and he loved hearing her stories about sports, Hartford and 133 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. She was a big time Giants fan, and 134 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: so I'm a Patriots fan, and so we will always 135 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: talk about that. We will go back and forth They 136 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: were just fun conversations. We will talk about the community. 137 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: We will talk about like the riots and Hartford and 138 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: how it was sad that the US would continue to 139 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: treat Puerto Rico um like a colony when we have 140 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: so much to bring. You know, she will talk about 141 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: her dislike of that. She she was very vocal about 142 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: making sure the younger generation understood we must stand up 143 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: for our community. There was one unspoken rule when it 144 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: came to talking with Gloria never ever mentioned her son 145 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: Victor or the Wells Fargo heist. We always knew not 146 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: to bring up Victor because you know, I mean, imagine 147 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: a mother regardless so what happened, She's still a mother, 148 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: and um we always knew we respect to her enough 149 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: not even to bring it up. And for good reason. 150 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: Gloria is a controversial figure in this story. A number 151 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: of people I spoke with said they thought she knew 152 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: about Victor's plan to rob the Wells Fargo depot. A 153 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: few even thought she put him up to it, though 154 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: I should know I have never found any evidence to 155 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: support that theory. Getting in touch with Victor's mother has 156 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: been nearly impossible. During this investigation, I was told by 157 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: a very close source. She did not want to be 158 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: interviewed by me. I respected that, and it's no surprise. 159 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: In the years after the heist, she refused to cooperate 160 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: with grand Juries looking into Victor's disappearance, which fueled speculation 161 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: that she had something to hide. But any hope of 162 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: making last attempt was dash when Joel Cruz revealed something 163 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: during our interview an amazing maybe she actually passed away 164 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: last week. Gloria Harraina died on February. She was eight four. Today, 165 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: I'm dressing black because I'm actually going to go to 166 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: her funeral. And um, every time we met in the 167 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: lunch room, before I got up and I was leaving, 168 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: she will always tell me, don't forget your culture, don't 169 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: forget your background. She was just a very instrumental person, 170 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: very wise, kind, but she you know, she had this 171 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: fighting spirit, even at her age. She had this fighting 172 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: spirit in her of always making sure that we stood 173 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: up for our rights. Gloria Horana was a staunch supporter 174 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: of Puerto Rican independence, regularly attending rallies and protests in 175 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: and around Hartford. She was also a member of the 176 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: Hartford chapter of the Puerto Rican Socialist Party, a pro 177 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: independence group. She said, died in the role independent Easter. 178 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: That's her politics and that's what she lives for. I mean, 179 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: whenever there's a protest, you know, involving some kind of 180 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: independence issue, she's always there. Victor was a complicated figure 181 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: as well. Friends and co workers described him as a loner, 182 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: not nearly as active in the community or as vocal 183 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: about politics as his mother. But the heist made Victor 184 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: something of a folk hero overnight. The stories that we 185 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: were told, you know, talked about him as a very 186 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: respectable man and just frustrated with systems and the racism 187 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: that we were experiencing. I think even in the community 188 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: people will talk about it from a perspective of like, look, 189 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: he took some of that and he gave out toys, 190 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: and you know, he did it out of frustration. I've 191 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: never heard throughout the stories of anyone actually judging him 192 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: in a negative way. Plus, Victor wasn't violent, not really. 193 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: That's actually something former Starford police officer Jack Casey pointed 194 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: out during one of our initial conversations. You see, Victor 195 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: could have seriously hurt those security guards, even killed them, 196 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: but he didn't. And I think that's why throughout Hartford 197 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: he became kind of almost like a robin Hood character, 198 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: where they'd have his picture up in some of the 199 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: little bodegas and the stores on Park Street and people 200 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: looked at um. And then when they came back on 201 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: Three Kings Day and they were passing out the money 202 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: and the food or whatever. So they got a lot 203 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: of goodwill in the community from it. Victor didn't appear 204 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: at the Three Kings Day parade, but the money he 205 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: stole more than a year earlier did. West Harford police 206 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: were able to confirm that serial numbers on the banded 207 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: bills matched those stolen from the Wells Fargo depot. But 208 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: what many weren't aware of at the time was that 209 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: over in Puerto Rico, the FBI had already spent months 210 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: making huge investigative strides in the case. The question is, 211 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, why why did they pick hard for Why 212 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: was this nobody from nowhere Bill? You know, Victor Herrina 213 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: the inside man. Yeah, there's only one explanation. Before the 214 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: robin Hood like stunt on Three Kings Day. The last 215 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: anyone heard from Victor Haraina was in the form of 216 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: three handwritten postcards sent to various news outlets in which 217 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: he vowed to explain why he robbed the Wells Fargo depot, 218 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: while also teasing a major announcement about the missing money. 219 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: About a month later, Victor delivered on his promise. A 220 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: typewritten letter was sent to the San Juan offices of 221 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: United Press International in Puerto Rico. This time, however, Victor 222 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: was not the author. The letter came from an insurgency 223 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: group claiming responsibility for the Wells Fargo robbery. In it, 224 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: they claimed they spent a year and a half planning 225 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: every stage of the heist and had waited until the 226 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: seven million dollars was out of the country and in 227 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: a state of quote maximum security before going public. It's 228 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: a communicate, but reads more like a manifesto. The group's 229 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: leadership said the money was being used to fund its 230 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: revolutionary movement. Quote in the same manner in which we 231 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: have sees seven million dollars from the very bowels of 232 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: American imperialism, the organized force of the Puerto Rican people 233 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: will know how in its own time to seize the 234 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: liberty which will allow us to choose our destiny as 235 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: a people. End quote. It goes on to read in part. 236 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: We want to report that Comrade Harrena is in a 237 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: perfect state of health and has joined the struggle which 238 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: our people carry out to obtain our liberation. That was 239 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: the Maga Taros, the mas teros, who are upset that 240 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: they weren't getting the attention that they thought they deserved 241 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: for this patriotic express presation. They wanted to get some 242 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: publicity for it, and the police weren't helping him because 243 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: the police weren't linking him to the crime, so they 244 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: had to take some steps on their own. Los MACHOs, 245 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: formerly known as the Boricua Popular Army, are a revolutionary 246 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: nationalist group fighting since nineteen seventy six for Puerto Rico's 247 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: independence from the United States. Depending on who you ask, 248 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: Los mace Tero's translates to either the machete wielders or 249 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,479 Speaker 1: the cane cutters, a reference to Puerto Ricans who harvested 250 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: sugarcane under Spanish and later American sugar monopolies, some of 251 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: whom used their tools as weapons in the Spanish American War. 252 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: Half of the people I spoke with described them as 253 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: ter arrests, the other half said they were a pro 254 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: independence group. We can say that they were radical in 255 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: the sense of the means that they were using to 256 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: fight for or struggle for independence. Dr Jose A. Tellis 257 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: is a professor at the University of Illinois or ban 258 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: As Champagne. My areas of research as mainly Puerto Rico. 259 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: I studied the legal and political relationship between Puerto Rico 260 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: and the US, with special emphasis and colonialism and legal 261 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: mobilizations and pro independence movement. He's also from Puerto Rico 262 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: and grew up hearing stories about Los mach Terros exploits. 263 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: There were a small group and they were described in 264 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: the media as terrorist criminal. The fact that Puerto Rico 265 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: still being a colony kind of chose you that they 266 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: didn't get the supper or that they wanted right and 267 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: that this society were not behind these the type of actions. 268 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: It's important to bear in mind that they were part 269 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: of historical context, right. That was what prow independence, Antiicolonian 270 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: movement we're doing in there's seventies and eighties everywhere, not 271 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: only Puerto Rico, pot Ireland, the Basque Country, Catalunia and elsewhere. 272 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: Experts say that Macha Terros are not a major player today, 273 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: but in the late seventies and early eighties. The group 274 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: was engaged in armed conflict with the US government, with 275 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: cells in Puerto Rico, Cuba, and barrios across the continental 276 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: United States, including Hartford, Connecticut. A lot of Puerto Ricans 277 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: that joined prow independence movement in the seventies sixties seventies 278 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: either were first generation Puerto Rican Puerto Ricans who migrated 279 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: with the parents that grew up facing discrimination, racism, poverty, 280 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: So it was not hard seeing that Puerto Rican would 281 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: join uh struggle that advocated for independence from Puerto Rico, 282 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: social justice or economic justice, and also some anti racism, 283 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: anti oppression at large. Can you tell me about yourself, 284 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: Robert s Hibe, But we're in October thirty one, nineteen 285 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: seven Halloween birth He had it better than that. Bob 286 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: Hyble as a former FBI agent and Deputy chief of 287 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: the Bureau's counter Terrorism Division. He's been stationed all over 288 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: but spent the early part of his career in San Juan, 289 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico work in the island's separatist movements. We were 290 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: having a series of bombings and I was fortunate enough 291 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: to have the case on the key player Philiberto Terrios. 292 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: Bob would go on to study and investigate Philiberto Ojeda 293 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: Rios's life, which included the founding of Mirra, a pro 294 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: independence group in the sixties, followed by Los Macha Terros 295 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: and its sister organization, the f a l N in 296 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: the mid seventies. Here's reporter at mahoney. There were two 297 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: wings of the nationalist movement. I mean there was the 298 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: f a l N, which was in charge of the 299 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: quote unquote activities on the mainland, and there were the 300 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: Macha Terris who were involved supposedly in activities. The FA 301 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: l N was doing his damage in Chicago and New York. 302 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: All right, they were blown up France's tavern, They're blown up, 303 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, the mobile oil building. They're blown up, things 304 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: like that. Over the course of nearly a decade, both 305 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: Los Macha Terros and the f a l N claim 306 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: responsibility for over one attacks in the continental United States 307 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: and Puerto Rico, including the murder of a police officer, 308 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: the bombing of eleven unmanned aircrafts on a National Guard airfield, 309 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: and an attack on a Navy bus which left three 310 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: people dead and eight sailors wounded. Back then, things were 311 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: getting blown up quite a bit too because of the 312 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: Machan terrorist In late October, just six weeks after the 313 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: Wells Fargo heighst the group used the shoulder launched rocket 314 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: to strike a federal building in Puerto Rico. They called 315 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 1: a laws rocket l a WUS Laws and somebody you know, 316 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: initiated a missile attack on the federal building in a 317 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: place called at del Rey, which is the commercial center 318 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: of San Juan. They were aiming for the FBI officers 319 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: and they actually hit, you know, for the part of agriculture. 320 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: No one was killed, but the harget was clear. One 321 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: year firing rockets into buildings in the middle of downtown 322 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: San Juan, chances are, you know, you're taking a risk 323 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: of hurting somebody. You know this that law missile it 324 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: was fired again, Bobbe. They recovered the two from that 325 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: law missile. It was part of a lot that was 326 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: left in Vietnam and the Vietnamese furnished it to the 327 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: Cubans and they given furnished it the mar barrels. When 328 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: they fired the law missile at the FBI building and missed, 329 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: they discovered the car that was used and the search 330 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: of the car was so thorough that they recovered a 331 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: traffic ticket. So what they did is they identified where 332 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: the car had been parked from the ticket was issued. 333 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: They set up with surveillance and took some pictures, and 334 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: I got a call from the supervisor and saying on 335 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: it said, Bob, can you come down to Puerto Rico. 336 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: I want you to look at some pictures. Because I 337 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: was one of the only two FBI agents that everything 338 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: Philip Bertho in person, and uh, sure enough, it was 339 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,479 Speaker 1: fully better to the photographs. So from then on they 340 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: were able to identify where he was living in The 341 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: whole investigative approach to this changed and it became a 342 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: major case. From that point on, m the FBI began 343 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: a detailed surveillance of Philip Berto Ojeda Rios, tracking the 344 00:23:54,800 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: comings and goings of anyone associated with los Ma Terosh. 345 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: Over the next six months, the bureau collected enough evidence 346 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: to obtain a search warrant for one of the group's 347 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: safe houses. Inside they found a treasure trove of documents. 348 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: To the surveillance, they were able to do microphones and 349 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: wire taps, and because they had a microphone in Philip 350 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: Bertor's car, it was in those wire tapped conversations that 351 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: investigators first heard chatter of the missing seven million dollars. 352 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: Here's reporter Ed Mahoney again. No one ever conceived, No 353 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: one law enforcement had any clue or even thought or 354 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: imagine you know that a group of radical independent east 355 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: is at an island in the Caribbean. We're knocking off 356 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: armored cars in Hartford, Connecticut. It's just never occurred to anybody, 357 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: and there's really no reason why it should have occurred anybody. 358 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: The timelines in this case are actively confusing. The discovery 359 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: made by the FBI happened before Victor Herrina and the 360 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: Macha Terros took credit for Wells Fargo. But it's important 361 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: to remember that the FBI's field office in Puerto Rico 362 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: was investigating a rocket attack in San Juan, not a 363 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: robbery in West Harford. They were focused on their own investigation. 364 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: The discovery of the stolen money was a surprise. The 365 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: FBI in Connecticut never woke up to this thing, you know. 366 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: It was the FBI in Puerto Rico it put all together, 367 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: and it was almost by accident that they did. From there, 368 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: the bureau began piecing together Victor Herrina's connection to Los 369 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: macha Ros. For one, they learned how long Victor had 370 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: prepared for the operation, where he fled after the robbery, 371 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: and who else was involved. But one of the biggest 372 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: questions in this case has always and did Victor just 373 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: happen to start working at Wells Fargo and Los Macha 374 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: Terros saw an opportunity to recruit him? Or was he 375 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: groomed by the group to apply for the job. Do 376 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: you know how they recruited Victor Harena? I think that 377 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: it was through his mother. Through his mother, I think, 378 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: how does a guy like that though drive away with 379 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: thirt hundred pounds of money and then disappear. It was 380 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: well prepared. One thing about Ajit, he was a tremendous planner. 381 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: Everything Philiberto Oheda Rios did was intentional. Take the date 382 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: of the heist as an example to a lot of folks. 383 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: September twelve is just another day to Puerto Ricans. It's 384 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: the birthday of Pedro L. Bzoo Campos, a leader in 385 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: Puerto Rican's independence movement, a man seen to this day 386 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: as a national hero and patriot. I spoke to a 387 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: former member of Los Machateros. He wouldn't confirm how the 388 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: group came into contact with Victor, only that a quote 389 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: friend helped identify the opportunity at Wells Fargo and made 390 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: the introduction. It's worth pointing out here that Victor started 391 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: his job at Wells Fargo in May two, just shy 392 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: of a year and a half before the heist. In 393 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: the communic at which the macha Ros take credit for 394 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: the robbery, it's noted that the planning took a year 395 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: and a half to fully execute. That former Macheterro member 396 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: told me that at the time, Victor was angry about 397 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico's political status and eager to do something about it. 398 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: He felt the US treated the island like a colony, 399 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: using it for military exercises, stripping it of its natural resources, 400 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: and depriving residents of basic opportunities. Like many Puerto Ricans 401 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: in the early eighties, Victor was also reeling from a 402 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: shocking act of police violence a few years earlier, the 403 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: seroh Mara Villa murders in eight wherein two pro independence 404 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: activists were ambushed and killed by police in Ponce, Puerto 405 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: Rico after being set up by an undercover agent It 406 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: was hugely controversial, and government investigations into the killings in 407 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: an attempted cover up we're still going on at the 408 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: time of the heist. Here's Jose Attila's again. Every time 409 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: that they stayed carry out a act of this type 410 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: of violence or carry out of some sort of assassination, 411 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: pro independence movement will react, and Cerro Mario was especially radicalizing. 412 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: For many young people that saw this grows some auction 413 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: us pulling of no return. So I cool reminded that 414 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: or that and understood that this was kind of too much. 415 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: From all of it, a picture pulls into focus. A smart, 416 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: highly capable young man, deeply connected to his Puerto Rican roots, 417 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: takes a dead end job while secretly training for a 418 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: meticulously planned robbery. But it wasn't just some gas station 419 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: hold up or common burgle. This was a military operation, 420 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: a criminal enterprise that involved elaborate disguises and a daring 421 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: international escape, an organized heist with the code name White Eagle. 422 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: And those security guards who suspected Victor had some help 423 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: that night, well they were right. What nobody knew then 424 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: and would not know for decade to come, is that 425 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: there was at least one other man a top Los 426 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: MACHOs operative waiting around the back of the Wells Fargo 427 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: building for Victor on the night of the robbery. You see, 428 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: Victor knew this, Victor planned for this, Victor trained for this, 429 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: and within hours of loading all that money into a 430 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: rented buick, Victor Heraina had successfully completed the first step 431 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: in the macha ter plan. The second step, well, that 432 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: would involve the twenty five year old testing his look 433 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: at attempting to smuggle millions and stolen cash across the 434 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: US border. Next time, I'm White Eagle, So he practiced 435 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: grabbing me by the night and taking right out to 436 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: the ground. We hear from the man who made it happen. 437 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: White Eagle has written and executive produced by me Em 438 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: William Phelps and I Heart executive producer Christina Everett. Additional 439 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: writing by our supervising producer Julia Weaver. Our associate producer 440 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: and script supervisor is Darby Masters, Audio editing and mixing 441 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: by a Bouzafar and Christian Bowman. Our series theme forms 442 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: Regal or Grant is written by Aaron Kaufman and special 443 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: thanks to Arlene Santana and will Pearson at I Heart radio. 444 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from my heart Radio, visit the I 445 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: Heart Radio Apple Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to 446 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: your favorite shows.