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Speaker 1: The first question. We always like kind of started off

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Speaker 1: like this is like who was the first person like,

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Speaker 1: bust your ass, like you buckets that. He was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he got all them on me in the league. In

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Speaker 1: the league, the first person. You was like, man, this

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Speaker 1: is a high level game right here. This ain't college

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Speaker 1: no ball.

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Speaker 2: Man. One time I had to go on a mellow

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Speaker 2: and run you. This was Denver.

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Speaker 3: It was with the Knicks. Okay, they hit us. I

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Speaker 3: think I don't know if we won the game or not,

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Speaker 3: but I know he had fifty that night. But I

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Speaker 3: didn't get all the fifty. He was already hot when

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Speaker 3: I got on him. You feel like you got something, yeah, man,

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Speaker 3: But you know how that is. Man, You hate to

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Speaker 3: be the one that coach put in and cut the

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Speaker 3: water off. Somebody already cooking with green like you were fireman,

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Speaker 3: put the fire. I got hit too, Bop, they weren't.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't ready. I thought I was. I thought you

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Speaker 2: was ready for cooking with grease. You know, everybody know

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Speaker 2: Mellow put that ball in the hole. Now Miami, he was.

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Speaker 3: He was in New York and they played us in Miami,

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Speaker 3: and it was part of the Big Three era too.

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Speaker 3: So I mean credit, What credit do I mean? We

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Speaker 3: threw everything but sake at.

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Speaker 4: Him that night you tuned into the knuckleheads were out

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Speaker 4: here in Miami. Man, we're telling with mister Miami my

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Speaker 4: main man. You Donna's has them heat life for Major

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Speaker 4: Miami represented man's honor.

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Speaker 2: Having you with.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate man, Man caves Ye appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 2: Man, appreciate y'all. Man, Thank y'all for having me.

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Speaker 4: I'm on it, brother, this is cute, rich and d

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Speaker 4: Miles and knuckleheads.

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Speaker 5: We coach a push up.

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Speaker 2: That's when I knew.

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Speaker 3: I was like, this is fact finder right here. This

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Speaker 3: is a story that people don't know. Can't call me

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Speaker 3: soft and you can't disrespect where I'm from.

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Speaker 2: I did deal with a lot of loser and that

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Speaker 2: s just sucked. We come from an authentic old jeek standpoint.

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Speaker 5: But it's always good vibe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what a y'all doing here?

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Speaker 3: I thought I was just coming over to watch the game,

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Speaker 3: and you guys got microphone set up in the backyard,

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Speaker 3: And okay, I liked it.

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Speaker 6: I liked it. I liked it.

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Speaker 5: I know you played the power forward position.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the power forward that's your position, who's

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Speaker 1: the power forward that like gave you work?

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Speaker 6: And you was like, man, he got that on me.

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Speaker 2: Hm hmm. It ain't been too many.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you that if you were fine between my boy.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, everybody talked about, you know, the finals

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Speaker 3: that I had against Dirk, you know when we won

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Speaker 3: the championship, and you know how I was able to

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Speaker 3: be such a huge, huge asset defensively, I guessing, but

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Dirk is probably something that

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Speaker 3: I had never seen before. So up until that finals

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Speaker 3: where I had some success defensively, you know, it was

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Speaker 3: it was a tough cover.

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Speaker 2: You know, he was very tough cover.

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Speaker 3: You never really see power forwards setting ball screens on

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So it was very uncomfortable.

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Speaker 3: So before even getting into that series, having a game

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Speaker 3: plan for him in that series, yeah, yeah, yeah, he

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Speaker 3: puts something. He put a couple of things on me.

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Speaker 3: got into that finals, A guessing, Yeah, So he was

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Speaker 3: ready to go. Yeah, I was ready to go, and

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Speaker 3: I had got tired of my homeboys telling me that

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Speaker 3: dirt tell your ass up.

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Speaker 2: You know how your homeboys do? Boy? You know, yeah,

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Speaker 3: That was my motivation in the final of Men, I

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Speaker 6: I always liked that. I can't let nobody embarrass me

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Speaker 2: Listen, worse than your homeboys when you get cooked, that's

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Speaker 2: they're gonna, They're gonna, they're gonna roast.

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Speaker 1: They gonna tell you exactly any type of highlight to

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Speaker 6: Did to go with Vince Windmill.

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Speaker 2: That you want to talk to me like that? You

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Speaker 1: Your high school, I can't even think of the name.

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Speaker 2: Of Miami Senior stinger Reaves, Miami Senior High School? Respect champs?

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Speaker 2: Why did champs?

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Speaker 5: Why did you choose that high school?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so my high school, we ain't duck y'all, man,

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Speaker 3: we wanted all the smoke. That's how I'm you on

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Speaker 3: ThunderCats talking we wanted all the smoke, but no, we

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Speaker 3: you know, I was born. I was born in Miami actually,

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Speaker 3: we just played football, football, football for me, that's all

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Speaker 3: we do. So you know, down here, I was actually

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Speaker 3: I ended up moving to Jacksonville for a little while.

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Speaker 3: My stepmom job, you know, relocated us. So I ended

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Speaker 3: up playing basketball up there, and and that's when, you know,

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Speaker 3: I ended up going to Miami High. You know, everybody

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Speaker 3: know Northwestern down here. That's what my daddy went. My

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Speaker 3: daddy was a day kind of player of the year here,

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Speaker 3: Miami High. But I went to Miami High played for

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Speaker 3: Frank manin Man, it was the best decision I ever made,

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Speaker 3: best decision.

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Speaker 2: I ever made.

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Speaker 3: Man, I not only got, you know, a great basketball education,

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Speaker 3: but I got another mentor. You know that as an

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Like you called Frank

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Speaker 3: five in the morning, He'll come pick you up. That's

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Speaker 3: kind of coach he was.

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Speaker 5: You played with Steve Blake.

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Speaker 1: I played with Steve Blake with the Portland Trail Blake

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Speaker 3: You know, we kicked Blake out the gym. He used

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Speaker 3: come on, make it out of here, man, you ain't

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Speaker 3: from here. Like he he kept coming back, and he

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Speaker 3: him play. Because the thing was our high school was

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Speaker 3: already kind of envy for success. So the last thing

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Speaker 3: in a guy like Steve Blake.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: It was already a hell of a talent where he

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Speaker 3: for us. But you couldn't deny his talent. Couldn't deny

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Speaker 3: everybody else had to take a step back because he

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Speaker 2: Point guard from that point on. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: He a tough one, A tough one, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. Like you first got there, Yeah, I always

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Speaker 3: played always varsity football and basketball.

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Speaker 2: The whole time.

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Speaker 3: When I was we went back to back and before

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Speaker 7: So so we're supposed to play cut and so what

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Speaker 7: happened with that supposed to play out because you know,

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Speaker 7: let me tell you something. Everything happen for a reason.

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Speaker 3: But I sure wish that game would happen because there

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Speaker 3: was been Sunday talk about to day. But the state

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Speaker 3: play well there was around our time. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't want no produpposed to came to Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we supposed to came up.

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Speaker 1: There in Illinois. It's a lude that we can't go

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Speaker 1: two hundred miles when we played. We couldn't go two

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were supposed to go play them in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: we wanted all that. Man, we wanted all that he listen, hey, listen,

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Speaker 3: I was about fifty pounds heavier too. Well, hey, I

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Speaker 1: Now you came up in the circuit like we came

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Speaker 1: it was like it was all it was like, but

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Speaker 2: I mean you you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: And I first met him and we actually clicked and vibe,

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Speaker 3: It was all love whenever I seen him after that point,

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Speaker 3: you kind of stick to yourself like yeah or your quick,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, so for me

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So I always valued that, you

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Understanding that, But no, T Max,

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Speaker 3: I played with T mac Trace, McGrady, King Doling. I

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I ain't know I was gonna be

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Speaker 3: playing with Mike obviously, and going to college with Mike.

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Speaker 3: What you know, watching this team and they ain't had

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Speaker 2: Like man, listen, man would be real.

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Speaker 3: I gave myself one night to throw a pity party

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Speaker 2: Know it just the little things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we played with lamar old On he got to

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Speaker 6: Like, how how was yellow? So you love?

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Speaker 5: He's like, I love, we love love.

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Speaker 2: Hello, man. I had so much fun.

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Speaker 3: I learned so much from Llo man, you know, King

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Speaker 3: of the of the Ship talking man like listen, man, listen.

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Speaker 3: Every day after practice is the one on one with Llo.

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Speaker 2: He got to play. Now he got to play one

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Speaker 2: After practicing the one on one. You know how that is?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: Like you gotta love ll Man. We had some good times.

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Speaker 3: Man. It was fun, you know, playing with them and

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Speaker 3: also learn it from him. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Man. I always had much respect for Llo. That's what's up.

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Speaker 1: You want a championship and you won it with Gary Payton,

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Speaker 1: And I know these was guys that you was looking

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Speaker 5: How did that feel?

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Speaker 3: Like? It was crazy because the first NBA jersey I

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Speaker 3: my homeboy, Buckwhek Shout out Buck Week, shout out Buck

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Speaker 3: that's crazy to me.

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Speaker 2: You know it's crazy to me.

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Speaker 3: You know, have the opportunity to see the glove, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's another honor, you know, like playing for pat Riley.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I think it took me

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That's what I.

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Speaker 4: Got here, it was only you and JJ. He was

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Speaker 3: You sitting there looking at me like damn. They trying

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Speaker 3: First he said he said that. Damn Pat boy, he said,

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: He believes in being the hardest working team, unliked, a

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Speaker 3: there's times where I'll be like boll by the fact

440
00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,199
Speaker 3: today I can't eat nothing to night. I want to

441
00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,159
Speaker 3: eat this, I want to eat that. You know, I

442
00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,280
Speaker 3: want to have a sip of this, so he I

443
00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,879
Speaker 3: have a sip of that. You know what I'm saying.

444
00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,480
Speaker 3: But you know, I don't think that if I wasn't

445
00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:18,760
Speaker 3: as disciplined.

446
00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,000
Speaker 2: As I am now.

447
00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, maybe sixteen years later I

448
00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,959
Speaker 3: might not be here having the same success that I have.

449
00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,119
Speaker 3: It's two sides to it, you know what I'm saying

450
00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,200
Speaker 3: you got to give up something. You know what I'm saying,

451
00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,680
Speaker 3: you can't have you can't eat it too all the time.

452
00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,439
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, Hey, you can't eat

453
00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,520
Speaker 3: it too all the time. Sometimes you got to psychofice

454
00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:35,080
Speaker 3: certain things.

455
00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:35,320
Speaker 2: Man.

456
00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,399
Speaker 3: So you know, I don't regret none of that. Man,

457
00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,600
Speaker 3: I got three rings. I'm gonna leave and rebount the organization.

458
00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,560
Speaker 3: I done did something right, and he just had something

459
00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:42,840
Speaker 3: to do with that. You know what I'm saying. I've

460
00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,320
Speaker 3: had a lot to do with it, but he's definitely

461
00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:45,760
Speaker 3: had something to do with that success as well.

462
00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,920
Speaker 4: Like I tell I tell them all the time, but

463
00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,000
Speaker 4: not just him, but like when we go out to dinner,

464
00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,240
Speaker 4: when we out on the road, or when we going

465
00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,119
Speaker 4: out like if we're going to a club, whatever we're doing,

466
00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,280
Speaker 4: like you literally are being conscious.

467
00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,360
Speaker 2: Of out it like yo, yeah, it's a lifestyle.

468
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:08,280
Speaker 4: Like forget like we went this was me, d right

469
00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,840
Speaker 4: and Jo and you know we came like that.

470
00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,800
Speaker 2: That was the first time like we over we.

471
00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,120
Speaker 4: Over there all start break hanging out and we all

472
00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,600
Speaker 4: basically policing each other Like yo, bro, I don't know

473
00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,520
Speaker 4: what you're doing with that that right, trimping, like, Bro,

474
00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,679
Speaker 4: then we all get back and go straight from the

475
00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,200
Speaker 4: plane to the same ride the bike and do all

476
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:31,760
Speaker 4: of that because we know. And the first thing in

477
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,720
Speaker 4: the morning you about you know what you're about to get.

478
00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:34,880
Speaker 2: It's a lifestyle, bro.

479
00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,679
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, I'm locked in, Like,

480
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,360
Speaker 3: regardless of whether you know, my career ends this year,

481
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,800
Speaker 3: next year, whenever it is, I'm I'm gonna continue to

482
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 3: live my life, you know, like this because I see

483
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,879
Speaker 3: the results of being healthy.

484
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:45,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

485
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,680
Speaker 3: So you know, like I said, you know it ain't

486
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,159
Speaker 3: for everybody, but you know I'm gonna sticking with it.

487
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,439
Speaker 2: I credit them for like how I changed my body.

488
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 2: I remember that. I remember that, Bro, I remember that you.

489
00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:00,720
Speaker 4: Saw me beforehand and the entire process literally like him

490
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 4: and James Jones was in the gym with me.

491
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 2: How many did I throw up? I thought I was

492
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,240
Speaker 2: about to be done.

493
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,439
Speaker 4: I think he took the picture and was like he

494
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,199
Speaker 4: gave me a gate raid and I'm sitting there.

495
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 3: He was like, all right, you ready to finish. I'm like, yeah,

496
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 3: I remember the first time you ran. I think you

497
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 3: came up there and I think I end up told me.

498
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 3: You was like, Bro, you still should be down there

499
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 3: on the trade. Man, you shouldn't come up here like

500
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 3: you ain't. I was like, I was like, you ain't

501
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 3: run to jump up in here like this hip. I said, no,

502
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 3: you don't want to jump in this fire like this.

503
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 3: Q rich you might will go ahead and going downstairs

504
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 3: first for real.

505
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,880
Speaker 2: Like you start out on the traad like just I'm like, man, I'm.

506
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 3: Mucket jumped on that throwed up right there.

507
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 2: Then Bill came into the picture, man, but it was

508
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 2: all water. I don't know what he did. I don't

509
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:48,720
Speaker 2: know what he was doing.

510
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if he thought he was you need

511
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 3: to hihdrate some mother man, throw it up all the water.

512
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 3: I said, damn, that's the first thing not to do.

513
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 3: Drink all that damn water. Were you about to come

514
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 3: up here?

515
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:57,679
Speaker 2: But I.

516
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 3: Can't drive you get hydrated during the workout, not before.

517
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 4: Bro, him and him and JJ looking at that stuff.

518
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 4: I remember one that you dc ain'. Bro, I ain't

519
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 4: even gonna too much by a lie to you, he

520
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 4: said right now. They just seeing how far they could

521
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 4: go with you, Bro, Like he like they doing everything.

522
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 2: It's just like because it's a mindset. Man.

523
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 3: The things we do, you know before a training camp

524
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 3: is you know we do? You know the conditioning test.

525
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, And it's not really basketball

526
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 3: oriented because everybody know that play basketball, know that the

527
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 3: getting basketball shape. You just got to play basketball. You

528
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 3: can run on a treadmill, you can run sprints all

529
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,160
Speaker 3: you want, you don't until you play basketball, you ain't

530
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 3: gonna get in basketball shape. So this test is just

531
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 3: completely mental. So I was just telling you rish Man

532
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,880
Speaker 3: that he was going through it all. I was like, man,

533
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 3: it's mental, bro, it's mental. You know what I'm saying.

534
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 2: Just that's that's what it is. You know what I'm saying.

535
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 3: And when I get mad, when I feel like somebody

536
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 3: pushing me in or something to do, Like the last

537
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 3: thing I'm gonna let you see is like me bending

538
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 3: down and all tied. So if you want to keep running,

539
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep running. I'm gonna be tired of hell,

540
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 3: but I ain't gonna let you get the satisfaction of

541
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 3: seeing me bent down, can't stand up no more.

542
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 2: All that. How proud was that when I stopped throwing

543
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 2: up like everybody like.

544
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 3: Today the first day, kid, Yeah, because because because at

545
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 3: the end of the day, we all been there. I

546
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 3: had to lose a lot of weight too, So I've

547
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 3: been there, so I know once you finally get to

548
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 3: that point where you cross that bridge, you know what

549
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 3: I'm saying, and you you see the results in yourself athletically,

550
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and you see the way

551
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 3: you're changing as far as your stamina and all that. Man, Like,

552
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 3: I know how that feel. You know what I'm saying.

553
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 3: I lost all my weight. I did a three sixty.

554
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 3: It was just different for me, just because I came

555
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 3: from Europe. So when I came back, I had been

556
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 3: gone for nine months, so people seeing like a whole

557
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 3: other person. I actually watched you rich as he was

558
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 3: going through the process. You know what I'm saying, So

559
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 3: I know how I feel when you cross that bridge. Like,

560
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 3: damn boy, I got that monkey off my back.

561
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: Like I was proud of Draymond Green for shipping that

562
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 1: baby fat off him and getting more toned. Yeah, yeah,

563
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: because he became a better player when he toned himself up,

564
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: and he moved better and moved around and more.

565
00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,959
Speaker 6: He definitely moved that, did it.

566
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he definitely knew that the defense. Know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah,

567
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 3: came Love too. K Love like a whole different player

568
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 3: than what he was in Minnesota, you know what I'm saying,

569
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 3: It's like a whole different player. The thing is once

570
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 3: you lose it, keeping it off though, because that becomes

571
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 3: you know, easy to do is just let it come

572
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 3: back on, especially if you know if you were tiring

573
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 3: walk away from the game. That's that's the biggest situation

574
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 3: that you gotta probably face.

575
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 6: What's like a.

576
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: Funny rookie story or a funny story with Shack that

577
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: team with Shack them, or just a funny story that

578
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: you remember just coming to lead like a Kat told

579
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: the story where him and James Harden and Westbrook was

580
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: on the same team and Nate Robson got on the

581
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 1: team and stole James Horden car while he was in

582
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: practice and parked it around the corner and started taking

583
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: pictures ghost riding the wheel stuff, and James came out

584
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: extra mad and that was like the first controversial moment

585
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 1: that they team had.

586
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 6: Like, what's like a funny store.

587
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 2: I know y'all got some with Shack.

588
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: One funny story is when him and the Rods got

589
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 3: into it. Everybody know, you know what I'm saying. Before

590
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 3: Shack and the mat yeah, you know, he wrote about

591
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: it thinking his book before he ended up leaving us

592
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 3: and going to Phoenix. Him and Robs had got into it.

593
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 3: So it was like face to face, you know, confrontation.

594
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. There's just a lot of

595
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 3: talking back and forth, and you know, nobody wasn't backing down,

596
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 3: and you know, me being the stand up guy I am.

597
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I just stepped in the middle.

598
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 3: I was like, come on, big fella, man, you just

599
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 3: go ahead, big fella. It ain't worth it. Ain't worth it.

600
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 6: Man.

601
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 3: I ain't never had a man push me like I

602
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 3: was a little boy. No, I ain't gonna hit him,

603
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 3: but that bro I flew about five feet and at

604
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: that point I said, man, I ain't going back.

605
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 2: I ain't.

606
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 3: That ain't my fight. I might, I ain't got it.

607
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 3: He ain't gonna be pushing on me like that, big feeling.

608
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: It was too easy for you to push on me

609
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 3: like that. I ain't like that. I ain't like that.

610
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 6: When I got to a league, I was a book

611
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 6: ninety five soaking with man.

612
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 3: I was I was too thirty at that time. That

613
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 3: man pushed me like a little boy. Man, I was

614
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 3: too thirty, man, just like I was thirty. That man

615
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 3: pushed me out the way like a little boy. Can

616
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 3: you imagine what he would have did?

617
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 2: The pat man great?

618
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 3: That was funny with me and d Wade. Oh man,

619
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 3: we had a lot of funny stories. Man, We got

620
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 3: a lot of funny stories. But I remember one time

621
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 3: somebody had stolen his car and he had a chain

622
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 3: in the car. So he told me he found out

623
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 3: somebody stole his car. So I say, listen, do you

624
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 3: want me to find out what's going on? You know this,

625
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 3: that and the third. So I get a phone call,

626
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 3: so my homeboy tell me okay, such and so we

627
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 3: found out where the chain. We found out where the car.

628
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 3: That asked the way he want the chain it and

629
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 3: whatever whatever. So I come to the Wade. I say, listen, man,

630
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 3: my homeboys found out who got a change. I think

631
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,719
Speaker 3: he found a car, That's what happened. He found the car,

632
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 3: but he didn't get his jury back. So I had

633
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 3: found out where the jury was at. So I say, listen, man,

634
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 3: my homeboys, find out where your jury at. Where you

635
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 3: want your jury back. He was like, yeah, okay. I

636
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 3: was like cool, I said, I'm gonna get the jury back.

637
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 3: I said, but listen, I don't know, like however they

638
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 3: get it back is how they get it back.

639
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't want to back on. I

640
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: don't want it back. Yeah you know, yeah you will.

641
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 2: I don't want it back. You will.

642
00:25:58,880 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 6: Ain't.

643
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we don't want it back. We don't want

644
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: it back. But yeah, that was real funny. But I mean,

645
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: we got tons of stories. Man, that's my dog man.

646
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like man, like I said,

647
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 3: the Waye's like a brother me. Man, he called me

648
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 3: five in the morning. Man, I ain't asking no questions.

649
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: I'm there, you know what I mean. So you know

650
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 3: that's just a relationship we got. You know what I'm saying.

651
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: That's what's up.

652
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: I get along with. There's a lot of.

653
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 3: Chicago people, man, career. Man, it be natural. Man, it

654
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 3: just I don't know, you know what I'm saying, but

655
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: it be natural.

656
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 6: He from Chicago, you from Miami.

657
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: Y'all been on the long journey and like y'all just

658
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: became brothers from being with this organization for so long,

659
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: winning championships, having the up and down years, having the

660
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: whole change, and you looking around and the only person.

661
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 5: That you see is each other.

662
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 1: Tell us the relationship, you like that brotherhood and how

663
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: it grew when the first time you met the way

664
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: to where it is now.

665
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 3: So the first time we met was been in that

666
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 3: whole summer together, you know, working out with the heat,

667
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: getting ready for some of the league. You know, obviously

668
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 3: they got guys come and getting ready to play some leagues.

669
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: So you know, we pretty much spent that whole summer

670
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: together working out, you know what I'm saying, going to

671
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: the gym together, and Q know how the all season

672
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: workouts schedule is, you know what I'm saying. So in

673
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: the morning we'll be the track, we'll be conditioning. After

674
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 3: that we would end up to the gym, would be

675
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: weight room, and then on the court workouts. After the

676
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: weight room and on the court workouts, we'll go play

677
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 3: pick up. At that time, we'll go play pick up.

678
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 3: We'll play at the arena, and then later on that

679
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: afternoon we'll probably go play at Alonzo Morning's youth center.

680
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: That was over time, so we played a lot of

681
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 3: basketball and hung out of a lot together. Both of

682
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: us had kids out a young age. We both under

683
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 3: we had a lot in common. Both of us had

684
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 3: kids already. You know what I'm saying. I had a son,

685
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 3: He had a son. You know what I'm saying. My

686
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: son's actually a little older. You know, both five mothers,

687
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 3: you know, had struggles as kids with you know, different

688
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 3: things that they had to go through, So we related

689
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 3: on that level, and our mothers ended up actually, you know,

690
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 3: bonding on a lot of different levels and being good

691
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: friends over some of the things that they dealt with.

692
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: So she ended up befriending my mother, you know, but

693
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 3: before my mother passed, so you know, that was another

694
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: thing that you know, it was different from me because

695
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 3: our relationship went beyond just me and him. You know,

696
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 3: our mother's actually made a bond, and before my mother

697
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 3: passed away, I know, missus Wade was a real.

698
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: Good friend of her.

699
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 3: So, you know, it was just so many things that

700
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: we bonded on so many levels, and we had a

701
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: lot of success together. And man, regardless of how we

702
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 3: both translate the way we get to the success, we

703
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: both work hard and try to get to the same goal.

704
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, We just do it differently.

705
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 3: And the thing about having good friends in this world

706
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: and we all understand that. Like I said, Q was

707
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 3: being from Chicago when I first met him, and how

708
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 3: we vibe is to understand that people.

709
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 2: Gonna be different.

710
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 3: Man, Everybody ain't gonna be like you, but you gotta

711
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 3: respect that, you know what I'm saying.

712
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 2: Everybody ain't gonna be like you. Everybody ain't gonna talk

713
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 2: like you. Everybody's gonna like you.

714
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 3: Just understanding that first about him, then he understood that

715
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: about me. But understand that regardless of that, we're different.

716
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, We come from a lot

717
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: of similar things and we got similar goals in life,

718
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: so that was just natural for us.

719
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: Man.

720
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 3: Like I sit here with y'all today, me and Q

721
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: ain't played together in a few years, and I ain't

722
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: seeing you in a few years. But when we bump

723
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 3: into each other, it's always love. You know, it's always love.

724
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

725
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: You pick up where you left off, and that's how

726
00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: you know what it is. You know what I'm saying.

727
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: You don't see somebody for a few weeks, a couple

728
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 3: of days and they start acting funny. Then I mean,

729
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: you know where that is exactly. You shouldn't feel no

730
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: type of way because I don't. So if you do,

731
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: then what's up with you?

732
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: Though?

733
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: Like what's your you know what I mean? Where you

734
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 3: at with it? Because I'm good Gucci still as long

735
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: as I know.

736
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 4: Basically we all appears, but like you like one of

737
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 4: the last one of us left, like a real gatekeeper,

738
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 4: I do. I feel like in the game, like you

739
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 4: stretch all the way to you know what I'm saying

740
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 4: to early two thousands to you know to what these

741
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 4: guys is playing in the league now, like those are

742
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 4: basically the real guys they grew up watching and then

743
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 4: you played with a lot of the guys that these

744
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 4: guys are.

745
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 3: You know that the Ogs. Of course they want to

746
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 3: cut you out. I've been keeping my eyeing it for

747
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: a minute. Go ahead, it's sitting here looking.

748
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: That's up.

749
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: To still being here though, cheers are still being here,

750
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, living life because you know

751
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, you all know where we come from.

752
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: It's crazy, you know, so we're here.

753
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 4: But like speaking on that being like like I said,

754
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 4: you wanted the real last og gatekeepers that that you know,

755
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 4: you can say when you first came in, it wasn't

756
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 4: even NBA headbands and everything. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,

757
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 4: Like the game was a lot different. You know what

758
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,959
Speaker 4: I'm saying. It was just kind of turned the corner

759
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 4: to where you had a lot of guys coming straight

760
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 4: out of high school and you had that wave coming through.

761
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: But it was still an older league than it is now.

762
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, The rules and the way

763
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: things were, the way people played, the interpretation of who

764
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: was a real tough guy and you know, things.

765
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: Like that was just center now yeah, I know, right,

766
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: and a legit enforcer though like you know, we don't

767
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: we don't.

768
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 4: We don't call names or do things like that on here.

769
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying speaking to.

770
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: Just speaking to some going exactly, just speaking to FAC's

771
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 3: going up as opposed to then to where you know,

772
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 3: we like I brought up Big Cat the other day,

773
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: like he sh like, can we please just talk about

774
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: this for a second? Bro?

775
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: Like how at certain times, like Spoe would turn to

776
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: him and want to put him in the game, and

777
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: with he can't put it back a Big Cat he would.

778
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 4: Tell him to like I want to put you in

779
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 4: the game, but I know you're gonna do something.

780
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: Meeting one time the meeting, he told the Big Cat

781
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: you gotta I can't play because you can't keep doing that.

782
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: Big Cat boy.

783
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 5: I played with him in Portland.

784
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: Big Cat was listening listen now, and I was young, dumb,

785
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 3: and I was trying to fight Big Cat one time

786
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: when he was in Charlotte.

787
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: You know I ain't gave it, Damn me. I was

788
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: able to square off with Big Cat. Man.

789
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: Big Cat hands big as this table. If Big can't

790
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: hit you. If Big can't hit you, a grab you

791
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 3: taste closed. If can't hit you, grab your told. Your

792
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: best bet is a strike harder, strike fast. The Big

793
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 3: Cat hands is huge. Man, You're gonna have to come

794
00:31:59,760 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: with it.

795
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Man, He's one of the funniest dudes I know.

796
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 6: Man.

797
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: He one of the funniest guys I know. Man.

798
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 3: To this day, man, we and Big Cat still have fun.

799
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: We see each other. He a funny doruy, He a

800
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: funny dude.

801
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: Lebron Cameosh Can and we talked to d Wade about

802
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: this story. The only person I knew that was gonna

803
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: be definitely included was you. You know what I'm saying,

804
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: outside of Brian and Boss, what did you think about

805
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: that summer when all that happened went down for y'all

806
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: was built to your championships.

807
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: You know that he didn't have money for me that summer,

808
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: you know, so I was actually about to leave, you know,

809
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 3: I was on my way down the arena, you know,

810
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: to have to sit down with Pat, you know, because

811
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: at that time, all he had the offer was a

812
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: minimum contract. After you know, they had so many guys,

813
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: those all those guys.

814
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: Coming in.

815
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: At that time. I was in the prime of my career,

816
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I had other offers, so

817
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: it was like, I think around forty something million from

818
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: Denver at that time, so, you know, not to take

819
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: that and to play for the minimum whatever. I think

820
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: it was one point five at that time. Whatever, that's

821
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: it's crazy and I'm still in my prime, you know

822
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So you know, I was on my

823
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 3: way down to sit down and pattern basically say you know,

824
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 3: thank you, and I appreciate y'all giving me the opportunity

825
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 3: when nobody believed in me. You know what I'm saying.

826
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: I couldn't get here today without y'all. So as I

827
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: exited the freeway, you know what I'm saying, I don't

828
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 3: know if me and d Wade was Texan or if

829
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,959
Speaker 3: I called him, but you know, it was more like,

830
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: you know, my boy, you know it is what it is.

831
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 3: You know we don't always vibe, but you know, I

832
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: probably got to move on from here. So as I

833
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 3: put up to the arena, you know, I get a

834
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: call from my agent, you know, the late great you know,

835
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: Henry Thomas, another a mentor that I've been blessed to have,

836
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 3: you know, in my life. He tells me, you know,

837
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: just wait a second, you know, before you go in

838
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: to see Pat, because you know, it was it was

839
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: that time ready to look Patter in the face and

840
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: me like, man, I love you guys, I appreciate it.

841
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 3: But you know I felt I felt that was the

842
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: right thing to do, you.

843
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.

844
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 3: If I was gonna move on, you know, to do

845
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: it like that hit me was like just cheer for

846
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: a second, don't go in pet office like you know,

847
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: and give me a second.

848
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: We might have a deal. So the Wade get on

849
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: the phone.

850
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 3: He called Bron, he called c B And you tell

851
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 3: these guys, listen, you know you about to lose this piece.

852
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 3: You know he can be, you know, real instrumental into

853
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: us winning these championships that.

854
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: We're shooting for.

855
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: So he told all those I don't know how the

856
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: numbers worked out or how they got how he did it,

857
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 3: but everybody took a less peace than the max just

858
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: to make a little money for me. You know, it

859
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 3: still was less than what I was offered. I think

860
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: I ended up signing for twenty instead of forty something.

861
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 3: But you know, for me to have the opportunity to

862
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 3: play with those guys you know in my city.

863
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 6: And win the championship, sacrifice, Yeah.

864
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it showed a lot of respect because at

865
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 3: that time, I ain't no Broun and I ain't no CB,

866
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. All I knew was the Wade,

867
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: But I guess the respect that they had for me

868
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: as a competitor from a competitive standpoint, you know, it

869
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 3: was enough for them to say, yeah, we need this guy,

870
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 3: this guy can help us. That was big for me

871
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: because you know, these guys all stars, these guys are

872
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 3: top players in the league, and we don't have no

873
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 3: relationship to play, but they want me to play with them.

874
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: So you know, for me, you know, I took that

875
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 3: a certain way, and you know I ain't. I wanted

876
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: to make good on that.

877
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: Me and Q came out, we got drafted, We got

878
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: the opportunity to go to Zoel Somethe groove you up.

879
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 6: So we came out here to Miami.

880
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: You know, we're kicking it and so for a phone

881
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: and you know, we down here a couple of days

882
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: early before the groove, young boys were running to Trick

883
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: Daddy and Coca Nut Grow. Trick Daddy told me, he said, Man,

884
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: I just watched you on the McDonald's game.

885
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 6: Man, you was dunking that thing out.

886
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: Man.

887
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: What you'all boys doing? Were like nothing, Man, we're trying

888
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: to go out with up. He said, Oh no, boy,

889
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: y'all can go with us.

890
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 4: Man.

891
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 6: It was him and his brother. You know what I'm saying.

892
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 6: And he was like, uh yeah, man, we're gonna go

893
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 6: to Cokee Coos. Listen.

894
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: I said what he said, Coke Coo? He said, Man,

895
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: be ready, man, we're gonna call up listen. Then when

896
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: them scourges just came out, the boys came and picked

897
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: us up just the first This is like one of

898
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: the first people we get a chance to be around

899
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: in Miami before like all the players come down and

900
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: we even start the weekend.

901
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 6: Trick Daddy come pick us up.

902
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

903
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: Didn't like I said, he didn't know me from sam

904
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: Me or Q for saying he just knew he was

905
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: just on the draft and I was just in the

906
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: McDonald game. Picked us up, took us to Coco. We

907
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: said in there and we kicked it in Coco. He

908
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: dropped us off. Man, I'm talking about, had a good

909
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: night with Trick Daddy. What do Trick Daddy like me?

910
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: That's that's how Double live. That's how Double live. Man,

911
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: he the male.

912
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That's how Double live. That's

913
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: how he treat you. I know Tricks since I was eighteen.

914
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 3: You know, I'm thirty eight now, so I know a

915
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 3: trick over twenty years. Man, And when I see Trick

916
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: all the time, it's all ve Like I said, Like,

917
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, We just pick up what

918
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 3: we left off at and I ain't I ain't surprised

919
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 3: he showed you all love like that. Man, That's like,

920
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. He takes pride in being

921
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: from the city. Man, when people come down here. He

922
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 3: wanted everybody to have a good experience down here. You

923
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like he said everybody. Yeah, he wanted.

924
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: Everybody to experience down I ain't been a coco.

925
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

926
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: He want everybody to enjoyed itself and enjoy the city.

927
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: Man. Just you know, understand it's a bridge and it's

928
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: the other side of the bridge when you come down here,

929
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 3: like you said, yeah, I just understands.

930
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's two sizes of saying.

931
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 6: Man, you was rooking.

932
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: We didn't have no money, yeah, drafted the money. Yeah,

933
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: and we didn't really have no money. We had some

934
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: little change, but not no money.

935
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 5: Money.

936
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: And fast forward, he took us in there and just

937
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: showed us a good time.

938
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: And just and like like now we know that it

939
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 3: was the you know, like the hood or whatever, but

940
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 3: you couldn't have told us that it was all love

941
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: up in there.

942
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

943
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 6: Man.

944
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 3: Also because you're good with Double man, and that's how

945
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: it's supposed to be.

946
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: Man.

947
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like Double gonna always show love. Man,

948
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 3: when love and show back. You know what I'm saying.

949
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 3: I think it's the people that get confused that Miami

950
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 3: in South Beach is two different places. Some people get

951
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,479
Speaker 3: that confused, Like I can't act over across this bridge.

952
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 3: How you act on South Beach. You come on this

953
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: side of town. You come on a certain side of town.

954
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 3: You gotta act a certain way. You know what I'm saying.

955
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 3: South Beach and South Beach and Miami is Miami.

956
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And if you're from here,

957
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 2: you know the difference. You know what I'm saying.

958
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 3: I tell people all the time, I ain't been in

959
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 3: South Beach until I got the NBA. I had never

960
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 3: crossed that bridge and seen what was over there, them clubs,

961
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 3: the water, all that that they were doing over there. Yeah,

962
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 3: and I had never been over there until I got

963
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 3: the NBA. We used to go to Hollow Beach. That's

964
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: where all you know what I'm saying. The black people

965
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 3: used to go to Hallover Beach.

966
00:37:59,200 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 2: That's what you know.

967
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 3: You get over there, you got the grills out on

968
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 3: the thing, jet skis, everybody vibe. And that was the

969
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: beach we went to. We ain't go to South Beach,

970
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: so I ain't never go over there until I got

971
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 3: the NBA.

972
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 6: You came from Miami from the bottom to the top.

973
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: Man you have seen you know, dreamed about being a

974
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: heat player and became a heat player, became a champion

975
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: they say, Wade County. But like when we look at

976
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: you as like the mayor too, like Trick Da like

977
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: you like a mayor too, not just for the Miami Heat,

978
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: but for the streets, like everybody seeing your growth, like

979
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: everybody come to you. Let's talk about like how how

980
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: you get back to the community and the things that

981
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: you do around Miami for the people to appreciate it.

982
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, d Way, we figured it out.

983
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: We you know, like I said, we talk about the bridge,

984
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 3: so I let him have South Beach. Everything crossed the

985
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 3: other side that belonged to me, right, That's how we

986
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 3: worked that out. And we're happy with that where we're

987
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: happy with that structure. That structure works for us. That's

988
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: how we do that. But you know, my mother struggle

989
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 3: with a drug addiction and you know, homelessness and just

990
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: a lot of different things. So when I got to

991
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: this point, you know, I was blessed to have somebody

992
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 3: step in my life with my stepmother Barbara, and then

993
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: you know, my father being there. But it took help

994
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 3: from somebody to step in and feel a gap for

995
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: a little while. You know, God, will you know my

996
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 3: mother cleaned herself up and became an example of somebody

997
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 3: who you know I always look up to and respect

998
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: and was inspired by, and you know, probably the strongest

999
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 3: person I know. But I was raised and I wouldn't

1000
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: be here today if it wasn't for somebody's help, you

1001
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So for me, I was put

1002
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 3: in a position to help people, you know what I'm saying.

1003
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 3: So I kind of started out with you know, just

1004
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 3: giving given, just giving. I had a family friend that

1005
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: passed away, so you know, we kind of took our

1006
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: kids in. It was given. And then I started doing

1007
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: things for the church. And then I started a foundation,

1008
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: you know, and now we have a reading writing program,

1009
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 3: we partner with grandparents raising grandkids. And then the next

1010
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 3: phase for me was provide jobs. Because now it's like

1011
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 3: if I give you some money, it's gone in a

1012
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 3: little while, or if I die today, what you're gonna do?

1013
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So you know, people asked

1014
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: why I got you know, the businesses, and why this

1015
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 3: and why that. You know, you could have did anything.

1016
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, but these businesses that I got into

1017
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 3: provide jobs, provide opportunities. So you know, I don't hire

1018
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 3: people that went to school with me. I don't hire

1019
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 3: people that you know, grew up with my pops. I

1020
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 3: don't have my homeboy sister like you know what I'm saying.

1021
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: I done did things like that so they can grow,

1022
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: you know, without me. You know, you don't even need me.

1023
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 3: You work, you know what I'm saying. You put yourself

1024
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 3: position to grow in these situations without my help. So

1025
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 3: you know, that was the reason why I was able

1026
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: to get into those things. But you know, for me, man,

1027
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 3: it's like I don't went all the way around the

1028
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: world of France just to be back here. Man, they

1029
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: got to mean something, you know what I'm saying. I

1030
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 3: gotta do something with that opportunity.

1031
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: You know.

1032
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 3: I was at my grandma house the other day, you know,

1033
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 3: I said, down with my grandma for about an hour.

1034
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,479
Speaker 3: Then I went in the backyard and I was looking

1035
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: at the court that I used to play at, you know,

1036
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: as a kid man. And you know, I just remember,

1037
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: you know, them battles. Me and my cousin used to

1038
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: hide back there and then you know, it was a

1039
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: small court, and then if you got good enough to

1040
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 3: beat people on the small court, then a little bit

1041
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 3: further down you're going to court with the grown up.

1042
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1043
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: Work, Yeah, you know how and that you know that

1044
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 3: court down there had dice games all that down there.

1045
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: You know he stayed on the other court.

1046
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, That caught down there, had

1047
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 3: a little more action, you know what I'm saying. So

1048
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: you know, I just remember all that. So like I

1049
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 3: told you, you know, people only know these kids only

1050
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 3: know what they see every day.

1051
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1052
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 3: I only knew what I was around every day. So

1053
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 3: now I done made it out and I see different things.

1054
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 3: I just wanted these kids to know that there's something

1055
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: else out there for them. They willing to work for

1056
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 3: it and just sacrifice a little bit. Because I ain't

1057
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 3: telling you not to have no fun, but just not

1058
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 3: the fun that's gonna get you killed, you know what

1059
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Not the fun that's gonna get you put

1060
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 3: in jail. You know what I'm saying, Not that kind

1061
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: of fun. You can go home, Yeah, you know what

1062
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And Yeah, you know what I'm saying, And

1063
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 3: like I think the kids losing that, you know what

1064
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,959
Speaker 3: I'm saying, because either you scared to have fun because

1065
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: you can't let your God damn you don't want to

1066
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 3: look soft. Or you know what I'm saying, you ain't

1067
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 3: having no fun because you the one out there gooning.

1068
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: So you can't smile about nothing because you you on

1069
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: the up mode.

1070
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Twenty four seven Breakfast, Yeah,

1071
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: you know you feel me so.

1072
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 3: Kids missing out on the opportunity to have fun from

1073
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 3: both sides of it, you know what I'm saying, Like

1074
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: we used to have fun. You feel me like you

1075
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying that now you know it was

1076
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 3: in situations where you know, you had to be on

1077
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: a point a little more than other situations. Man, But

1078
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you and your homeboys

1079
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 3: had fun. They can't have no fun no more. You

1080
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. They can't have no fun.

1081
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 4: To be able to stand here today, sixteen years in

1082
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 4: and just everything you accomplished, like you the all time

1083
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 4: leading rebound for the Miami Heat after going undrafted, going

1084
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 4: to France, having to come in and kick.

1085
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 2: Down the back door.

1086
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 4: They got to give you a statue or something. Your

1087
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 4: jersey going up and like this your crib. Yeah, like

1088
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like you did it, you

1089
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 4: put on for your city.

1090
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 3: Literally I mean it feel good man, Like you said

1091
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 3: coming through the back door, you know, not being drafted.

1092
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 3: You know, I speak on my mother a lot, and

1093
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 3: like I said, she was the strongest person I know.

1094
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, to come from, you know

1095
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: where she had to come from to build you know,

1096
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 3: the brand that she had to build for herself before

1097
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: she passed away. So like I done seen so many struggles. Man,

1098
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: Ain't nothing been easy for me? Like I ain't never

1099
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: really been giving nothing. So I've developed an unbelievable you

1100
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, resilience and grit life. You know

1101
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like not only just growing up but

1102
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: or in my situation, but just watching so many homeboys

1103
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: pass away. Man, Like I got a cause it with

1104
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 3: rest in Peace t shirts that I keep. You know

1105
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, as my homeboys, you know what I'm saying,

1106
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 3: Like in the stack bigger than it need to be,

1107
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, So like I know, seeing

1108
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: everything but to win. Man. So I'm wanting them people, man,

1109
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 3: that you know I'm here today, but man, it ain't

1110
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: damn showed because things have went my way put more

1111
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: majority of the time.

1112
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 4: Man.

1113
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 3: So you know, but I was always told by my mom.

1114
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, What the lawd got for

1115
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: you is for you. You know what I'm saying. You

1116
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: can't envy nobody else situation. You know what I'm saying.

1117
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: What the lawyer got for you is for you. So

1118
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

1119
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 3: I'm wanted them people that I understand that I got

1120
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: to get it the hard way, and I've become accustomed

1121
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: to that, so I ain't want it the easy way

1122
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: no more like I don't don't even get it to

1123
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 3: me because that ain't what I'm used to. If you

1124
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: start giving me shit, I'm gonna start questioning, hold on

1125
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 3: what this shit attached to?

1126
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: What you want from me? Like what you're trying like nah,

1127
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 2: while you giving me something, what you're trying to be slick?

1128
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: Like? Like nah, you know what I pay for it?

1129
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So I ain't even used

1130
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: to get in there and easy man, So like I said,

1131
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: many have to go through all that and to still

1132
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: be here today.

1133
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: Man, it's a story to tell.

1134
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 3: Man, But not just a story to tell just to

1135
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: tell it to get praised for it, but the story

1136
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 3: to tell it be an example for these shorties out here. Man,

1137
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 3: Like I don't walk around with no security. Man and

1138
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 3: short you want to come up to men and we

1139
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: could talk. Man, you coming to me, we have a conversation,

1140
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 3: and I go over town, I go in the city,

1141
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 3: I go to open locker in my face, clean everywhere

1142
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 3: out here. So like for me, you know what I'm saying,

1143
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 3: I just want to continue to be an inspiration because

1144
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 3: I know I got a story to tell that can

1145
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 3: help and inspire somebody. If somebody asked me what iud

1146
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: have been here today, I couldn't have told him. Yeah,

1147
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, not saying I'm doing this

1148
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 3: and I don't know what I would have been doing,

1149
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, because I ain't had no

1150
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 3: backup playing word. You know, people ask me what you

1151
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 3: made it into college, I'd be like basketball because that's

1152
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 3: what I went for. I ain't saying I wasn't trying

1153
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: to do my school work. But you asked me what

1154
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 3: I signed. I signed a basketball scholarship. That's why they

1155
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 3: brought me here. They ain't brought me here to be

1156
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 3: a biologist. They ain't brought me here to be a mathematician.

1157
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 3: They brought me here to play basketball. So when people say, yay,

1158
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: you know what you do, Yeah, I majored in basketball.

1159
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 3: You get your degree yet not yet. I'm going to

1160
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 3: get it. But until I get it, I have a

1161
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: lot of people that work for me that have their degree,

1162
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: and I appreciate them. Yeah, because I understand what I'm

1163
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 3: good at and I understand.

1164
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 2: What they're good at. Yeah, that's important.

1165
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You got to surround yourself

1166
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 3: with the right people as well. You know what I'm saying.

1167
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: That's that's more important anything coming from where we come from,

1168
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 3: we know the reality is surrounding yourself with the wrong

1169
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 3: people can get your kid facts, you know what I'm saying.

1170
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 3: So if you understand that at a young age, then

1171
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 3: you should now show know that as growing up.

1172
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: Definitely should when you came up when you was in

1173
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: high school, who's the players that you was looking at?

1174
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 3: You know, I was always under the wing of the

1175
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 3: ogs man some shape form of fashion. I was always

1176
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 3: under the wing of the ogs Man, even you know,

1177
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: as a youngster. You know, I always hung with older people.

1178
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I kind of gravitated to

1179
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 3: my brother's friends. That's more of my friends. You know

1180
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I was bigger than everybody that I

1181
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 3: probably would you know, it was hanging out with anyway,

1182
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 3: So I just came up under that.

1183
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: Man.

1184
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: That's probably why I'm so good, you know, with the

1185
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: young guys, not man's because I always came up with

1186
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 3: the under the ogs man. I still go to the

1187
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: Bible Shop on Fridays, man, and we get fired at

1188
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 3: the coronas and talk shit like you know what I'm saying,

1189
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 3: and you man, you'll walk out of it. You'll walk out, man, Listen,

1190
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: You'll walk out of the Bible Shop for field.

1191
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. For filled with knowledge

1192
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: and you know everything.

1193
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 4: Man.

1194
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 3: So I still enjoy doing that, man, because you know

1195
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. They sitting back there. You know, you

1196
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 3: got people sitting in the black planing dominoes.

1197
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1198
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: You got the music playing, you discuss the sports, you

1199
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 3: know this, that and the third. And you know, it's

1200
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: just funny to hear some of the opinions of the

1201
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 3: og sometimes when they talking, they know they know every

1202
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 3: guy down that well, you can't tell them nothing, you

1203
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. They got all the sense. So

1204
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 3: you know, I still enjoy doing that. Man, that's fun

1205
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 3: for me.

1206
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: Was there anybody in the league that you looked up to?

1207
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah that she was like, Man, I like that game.

1208
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you like that even though you your game

1209
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 2: might not be like but you want to yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1210
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 3: You know, for me watching NBA basketball, you know, it

1211
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 3: was all about watching guys that win. I always enjoyed

1212
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 3: watching you know, Magic, how he was able to do

1213
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: everything on the basketball court and how he helped, you know,

1214
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 3: move the needle and winning. And when Kareem was out

1215
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 3: of imagine had to play center and went down in the painting.

1216
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 3: I don't know, I can't remember the exact numbers, but

1217
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 3: he's Skott hooked him to death. Scott hooked him to death,

1218
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 3: the death down the Skot Hood. They to death. So

1219
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 3: you know guys like that. You know what I'm saying, Bird,

1220
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. How he was able to

1221
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 3: get down. Man. But you know, one of my favorite players,

1222
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 3: I will say now you know today in the game today,

1223
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: and it's just because I had a chance to up

1224
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: close see it, you know what I'm saying. And at

1225
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 3: that time, I thought I worked hard, but I didn't

1226
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 3: know the medical side of it and educate myself one

1227
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: of this. You know how hard Bron worked. You know

1228
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 3: how hard Bron worked to keep his body right, How

1229
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 3: hard Bron work or to still stay at a high level.

1230
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. For me, You know, it

1231
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 3: was just hit the gym every day, hit the weight room.

1232
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. But it's a science to it.

1233
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. For me, he helped me

1234
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 3: understand that science to it just watching him and being

1235
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 3: around him. You know, It's been a lot of different

1236
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 3: players on a lot of different levels.

1237
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 6: Man.

1238
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: The thing for me is I can't say I have

1239
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 3: one favorite, but I have a lot of different guys

1240
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 3: that I've been around that have been able to give

1241
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 3: me something that's helped me be who I am today.

1242
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Gary Payton, you know what

1243
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 3: I'm saying. With the defense and can't forget how much

1244
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: shit GP talk. He don't stop talking. She probably talk

1245
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: talking shit about somebody right now, about something he's selling

1246
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 3: out right now.

1247
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1248
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: Obviously, you know big fella, you know Shot You know

1249
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 3: what I'm saying that, you know, always he always, you know,

1250
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 3: uplifted his teammates. You know when I played with him,

1251
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: you know, he was always somebody that kept it light.

1252
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 3: But he was always somebody that breathed life into you

1253
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 3: and gave you the ultimate confidence.

1254
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1255
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, he was always somebody that breathed life and

1256
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 3: you and gave you confidence. You know what I'm saying.

1257
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 3: Like Joe, you know what I'm saying that the straight

1258
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: up work part of it. In the gym, in the

1259
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 3: weight room before a practice, in the weight room after practice.

1260
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 3: Brian Grant, you know what I'm saying, another working Yeah,

1261
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Eddie Jones, let's not forget

1262
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 3: shot out Eddie, for a lot of them had a

1263
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 3: chance to play with him. So all these guys I

1264
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: had a chance to play with had something that I

1265
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 3: was able to say, damn, you know, that's the quality

1266
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 3: that I want you know what I'm saying. And to

1267
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 3: be able to implement all those qualities and still be

1268
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 3: who I am. It just helps me relate to this

1269
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 3: next generation because man, if I didn't have those qullegs,

1270
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 3: I wouldn't understand any thunder cats. Man trying to tell you, Man,

1271
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: I was trying to tell you, man.

1272
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: I want to talk about that.

1273
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 4: I feel like all teams need that veteran presence, of

1274
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 4: a of a real genuine veteran. I mean outside of you,

1275
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 4: A lot of these teams you look at they veterans.

1276
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 4: They got five and six years, They got four and

1277
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 4: five years, and they came in at nineteen, so they

1278
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 4: still young men. They even grew into you know what

1279
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 4: I'm saying, to a real mature because you.

1280
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: Know, we all thought we was grown ass.

1281
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 4: Men in twenty one twenty things, and we now know

1282
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 4: that we were far from it, ye know what I'm saying.

1283
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 4: So it's like you got in some scenarios, not all,

1284
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 4: but in some scenarios you got a young immature kids

1285
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 4: leading other.

1286
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 2: Young immature kids.

1287
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 4: You know, the relationship and the chemistry you have with

1288
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 4: those guys, with all of them, and it's a genuine,

1289
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 4: great chemistry. They look up to you and they listen

1290
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 4: to you and they you know what I'm saying, you

1291
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 4: got them to right away. And like you said, you

1292
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 4: got the type of personality where anybody who know anything

1293
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 4: about you know you about that if you gotta be.

1294
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 4: But that's not what drives you. That's not what you You

1295
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, You respond to court. So everybody

1296
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 4: know you with the business. But like same time, they

1297
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 4: know that like you got wisdom bestow and like you're

1298
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 4: a good person. So just just from that standpoint, talk

1299
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 4: about your relationship with the young guys and how you

1300
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 4: work with them, what type of value you get out

1301
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 4: of that and appreciation you get from doing that.

1302
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: It's just different now, you know what I'm saying. That

1303
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 3: we just we could take it a step further, like

1304
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 3: I told you, like you know, a lot of people

1305
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 3: grew up with you know, a situation where maybe their

1306
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: father wasn't around, you know what I'm saying, but they

1307
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 3: had ogs, you know what I'm saying. So sometimes even

1308
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 3: though he wasn't necessarily you know what I'm saying, at

1309
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 3: the crib with you, you know what I'm saying, he was

1310
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: somebody that might have kept you out of trouble because

1311
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 3: he's seen something in you. So he'd be like, you

1312
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 3: want to be somewhere you ain't supposed to be a

1313
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 3: particular last home. He'll go ten dollars and see you

1314
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 3: run here up, you know what I'm saying, or something

1315
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 3: like that. You know what I'm saying. We always had

1316
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 3: those kind of ojs. You know, it's always good to

1317
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 3: have somebody who's not having an intimidation factor of being

1318
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 3: your father, or somebody who you can listen to and

1319
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 3: that can kind of swear you in the right direction

1320
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 3: and you value their opinion.

1321
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 2: So for me, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1322
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,479
Speaker 3: So for me, I'm saying, I could talk that talk

1323
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 3: with them boys all day long and I ain't coming

1324
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 3: at them as a coach. But what you gotta understand

1325
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 3: is everybody is different, So you got to deliver your

1326
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 3: message different. Some people you could cuts out and they

1327
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 3: could take it. Some people you cut out and they

1328
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 3: go in the ship, you know what I'm saying. So

1329
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 3: you just got to get to know everybody, man, because

1330
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 3: everybody different, man, So that take time understanding who you're

1331
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 3: dealing with with these young dudes. Man A lot of

1332
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 3: young boys be fragile. You know what I'm saying, A

1333
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 3: lot of don't be fragile. You know what I'm saying,

1334
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 3: lot don't be fragile. And so you got to understand

1335
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 3: that moving forward, man, because you want to get the

1336
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 3: best out of you. Don't want them to dislike you.

1337
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, because at the end of

1338
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 3: the day, I'm here for you. I got three rings.

1339
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 2: Every time I grab a rebound, that's a record, you

1340
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

1341
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 3: That's a new record. I grab one, that's a record. Yeah,

1342
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So for me, So for me,

1343
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, I just you know what

1344
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I want to see these boy hasse it,

1345
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 3: says man. You know what I'm saying. That's the record

1346
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 3: I'll be yelling at. That's a record.

1347
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1348
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 3: So, yeah, for me, I just want them boys to it,

1349
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 3: says man. So I like my emotions go up and

1350
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 3: down with them boys while they on the court, man,

1351
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 3: and the things that we're working on. I worked with

1352
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 3: them before practice, I worked with him after practice because

1353
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 3: to me, that's like my game. That's why I get

1354
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: my My fulfillment is working with them and practicing with

1355
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 3: them and going through stuff with them, and then when

1356
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 3: we step on the court.

1357
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 2: You know, I want to see that stuff manifest.

1358
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 6: Man.

1359
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 3: But like I said, we had ogs, man, I just

1360
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 3: feel like there's not too many OG's, like you said,

1361
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 3: in the NBA right now. Man, it's not they need

1362
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 3: that because a lot of these kids, like you said,

1363
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 3: when we grew up, sometimes you might not have had

1364
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 3: a father figure, but you had a o G. When

1365
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 3: you're in this NBA life, man, or daddy can't tell

1366
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 3: you nothing about being an NBA player when you when

1367
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 3: you in this NBA life, man, your daddy can't tell

1368
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 3: you about being an NBA player.

1369
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 2: You don't know that.

1370
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 3: You don't know that lifestyle, and ain't nobody could prepare

1371
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 3: you for that, Not nobody except somebody in there being

1372
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 3: there and that's been in it.

1373
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: And if he's with you.

1374
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 3: Every day, on you, every day, in your ear every day,

1375
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, you can't help. But if

1376
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 3: especially if it's somebody like me that's coming with you

1377
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 3: know not only the knowledge, but the credentials to back

1378
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 3: it up. I ain't coming to you on ship I'm

1379
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 3: on that. I ain't no coach. I'm wanted y'all, but

1380
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you what's best for the way you

1381
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 3: like it or not. You know what I'm saying, These

1382
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 3: dudes trust me, man, I'm looking in that all the time.

1383
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 3: I say, if you trust me, listen you bullshit tonight

1384
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 3: start bullshit. It's just championship level way to talk to

1385
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 3: these boys. Man. So, like I said, just understanding these dudes. Man,

1386
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 3: you gotta understand how you could how you get that

1387
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 3: message across to everybody because everybody different. Man, all go up,

1388
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 3: get real yeah, yeah for show like you know what

1389
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like you always took the mentality, man, Like

1390
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 3: everything I took personal. You know what I'm saying on

1391
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 3: the basketball court, everything I took person.

1392
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1393
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 3: Man, if it wasn't a chip out there on my shoulder,

1394
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 3: I find me one just to be motivated, you know

1395
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

1396
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: I was just like, I'll find something, yeah, man, just

1397
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 1: so I can be compared.

1398
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 3: To no shortcuts to call me angry, angry, black man,

1399
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: angry something.

1400
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 6: Man.

1401
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: You played with a lot of players like it had

1402
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: to be, man, I had to be played with a

1403
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: lot of players, and you've seen a lot of basketball

1404
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: coming up through the rankings and all that stuff. Who

1405
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: was like that one person? He was like it was

1406
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: like a walking bucket. Like every time you see he

1407
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: was like, man, he scored with the best of him.

1408
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: God, bless it. Soul. Rassoue Butler. Bob used to get buckets.

1409
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 3: I remember He'll sit a whole quarter with the heat

1410
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 3: and stand and put him in.

1411
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: It's like pop mad post.

1412
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 3: Pop three pop one, you pull up pop. Like he

1413
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 3: was just like a quick bucket, like not even need

1414
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 3: no warm up. I always had to get one. I

1415
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 3: ain't never been nobody just put me in after three

1416
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 3: quarters are not playing. I'm just gonna be the microwave

1417
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 3: Vinnie Johnson, like you know what I'm saying.

1418
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: Like Bob was a bucket Rassue.

1419
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: Butler was one of them dudes like like you two,

1420
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 1: every time I seen him, it was right back where

1421
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: we left off. He was like a just a good dude,

1422
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: great dude, always like breaking up confusing, like nah, we

1423
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: ain't on that. He was always just like a good dude.

1424
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 3: Good dude, man, George. I got some time to spend

1425
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 3: with him, and obviously when he was here. We hung

1426
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: out a lot, and like you said, you know, anytime

1427
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 3: you hear and you're hanging out and you're good. Like

1428
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 3: I had that relationship with him, and we had that

1429
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 3: same relationship when I went out to Philly. You know,

1430
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 3: I spent some time hanging out in Philly and then

1431
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 3: he took me in and I met his family, and

1432
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 3: it's just the same thing.

1433
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 2: Man.

1434
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 3: So when you think about you know, I've seen a

1435
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 3: lot of guys that's been able to do it. John Wallace,

1436
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 3: we talked about John. He was an instant buck quick,

1437
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Even when he was older,

1438
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 3: he was a buck like quick on your ass. But

1439
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 3: whatever you want. He like I said, he talking about

1440
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: Lllo talking ship. Him and Llo talk ship all day

1441
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 3: and they get into that.

1442
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 2: Come on, son, you got his son every time you

1443
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 2: know what?

1444
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 6: You know it?

1445
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 2: Son, they talking to each other.

1446
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 3: I don't know what Llo had one they got to

1447
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 3: play with now the practice they got to play one

1448
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 3: on one for an hour and a half.

1449
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 2: You gotta his son, you know it?

1450
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 3: Son? You know that big give of you bucket. So yeah,

1451
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 3: that was always funny. What do you think about bro

1452
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 3: with the braids? Because you the original braid guy. You

1453
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 3: stay with them straight backs. I know you cut him

1454
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 3: ever coming back? And what do you think of the

1455
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 3: way with the braid bro one last days come with

1456
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 3: a mid life crisis. He gonna pull up with a

1457
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 3: red red with the motorcycles. Red dude got you got

1458
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 3: it with a little jacket in a week, rag on

1459
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 3: what you go through me likes Let me pull up

1460
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 3: with a red du caddie ride a motorcycle in a week.

1461
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 2: Boy.

1462
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 3: And the one thing I always respect about the man,

1463
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 3: he always been with whatever it was he wanted to

1464
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 3: do fashion wise. Yeah, one day I told him, I said, man,

1465
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 3: one day I pull him to the side. I say, man,

1466
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 3: don't nobody never tell you no?

1467
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 2: He said, now time, I'm I think it was might

1468
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 2: fire ass. If you think they.

1469
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 4: One of them was doing the Big three, he would

1470
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 4: one of them things. Well, I think it was like

1471
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 4: some pink or some salmon pants and the thing was

1472
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 4: so tight. I hit him after the game, I say,

1473
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 4: come on that dog, what's you He said, hold on

1474
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 4: this Wie hit me back when he said, y'all I

1475
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 4: do this because I can't.

1476
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. You talking about.

1477
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. Know somewhat you up a little

1478
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: bit fitted up away in the.

1479
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: Hood, was telling us you change and little tight little shirts.

1480
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 5: Shirt.

1481
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 4: It just be a little more, your pans be tight

1482
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 4: like it's just like it.

1483
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 3: Just be a little fitted, man, that's all. It don't

1484
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 3: be tight like that.

1485
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 2: Man.

1486
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 3: But like I said, man, he ain't never been afraid

1487
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 3: to try stuff fashion wise, you know what I'm saying.

1488
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 3: That's why he's become so influential. You know a lot

1489
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 3: of this stuff, these boys doing that today, I said,

1490
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 3: I blame you, man. Then I took what you did

1491
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 3: and I went too damn fun. They started where you

1492
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 3: started and with too damn fun. I don't know what

1493
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 3: to say about it then. But man, you know what

1494
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 3: I tell them. But you know what I'm saying, It's

1495
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 3: all fun, you know what I'm saying. Like I said, man,

1496
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 3: like I told you, man, outside of what you know

1497
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, they doing on the basketball court and

1498
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 3: when we got to a certain situations, Man, the kids

1499
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: are not allowed to have fun no more.

1500
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: So.

1501
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 3: I see a lot of people having fun with the

1502
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 3: way they're dressing and with their fashion and even with

1503
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 3: the music, man, Like the music we used to.

1504
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 2: Listen to is you know, a lot more aggressive.

1505
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 3: You know, this music they listen to, they can dance

1506
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 3: and it's you know what I'm saying, They doing all that,

1507
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So that's they can have

1508
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 3: fun with it. We listened to that, we wouldn't have it.

1509
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 3: We weren't really dancing like that.

1510
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 6: But since you're saying about music, let me ask you this.

1511
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: If you stranding on the island and you only can

1512
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: have five albums, what would be your five albums?

1513
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 2: On me?

1514
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 3: Tupac Tupac definitely one Got you got the hoodie on

1515
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 3: right now? On me, definitely one Get rich of that,

1516
00:58:58,600 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 3: trying phifty cents?

1517
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 6: That was hard?

1518
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 3: On that drop Book A Thugs chapter AK verse forty seven.

1519
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 3: That's my third one. That's the one I want. Book

1520
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 3: A Thugs Chapter AK thirty seven. Yes, the Motivation will

1521
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 3: be my next one. That's so right right, that's U

1522
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 3: and five. See, And I'm gonna be honest with you, man,

1523
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 3: I didn't really listen to too much New York music, you know,

1524
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 3: growing up, You know what I'm saying. I wasn't really

1525
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 3: introduced until I got with the Miami Heat. So I

1526
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 3: would have to say Jay Z one of my favorite

1527
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 3: artists is And it's hard to pick an album. You

1528
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Nah, because I would go for

1529
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 3: back further, you know until yeah, you know what I'm saying,

1530
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 3: I would go back to a reasonable doubt. You know

1531
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. The Blueprint is another one. But if

1532
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 3: I had to say my favorite, I would have to

1533
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 3: say reasonable doubt. I used to wake up to that,

1534
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. You know, back in the

1535
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 3: day when you had the old school DVD player. I

1536
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 3: put the shit in there and set the alarm and

1537
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 3: when that shit come on and be reasonable that play.

1538
00:59:58,480 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, the track, you know what

1539
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying, skit and then it just come to start playing.

1540
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 3: Big man, big Man, that ship come on, that ship

1541
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 3: take off, and I wake up and start my.

1542
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: Day to that, straight up, straight up Miami Heat got

1543
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: them Miami Vice jerseys, like them was some dope jersey

1544
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: and want the dopest jersey in the league.

1545
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that took off. That thing took off.

1546
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: All the jerseys in the nineties better than the jerseys now.

1547
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 3: No, No, I think you know the jerseys now just

1548
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 3: allowed a lot more creativity. I think the jerseys back

1549
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 3: then you either had some cursive or just regular big,

1550
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 3: bigger glass letters. And I think now, I think now

1551
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 3: they're just being a little more creative, you know, coming

1552
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 3: with way more color waves. You know what I'm saying,

1553
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 3: different sets. The color waves is crazy, you know what

1554
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And you know, when they dropped the Vice jersey,

1555
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 3: no mistaken, who's on with the first one to sell out?

1556
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 3: When them things hit the market, let me ask you,

1557
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 3: this showed me love my city.

1558
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: They take care of me as you just what people

1559
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: ask want your jersey? Do they be like, yeah, I

1560
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: want that Vice one. I don't really want to look

1561
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: like when you give me one, give me that vice.

1562
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: I had requests for the Vice the show for sure.

1563
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 3: Definitely when them things hit the scene, everybody hit me

1564
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 3: up and I'm like, damn, I don't really got I

1565
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 3: guess they felt like I had to plug and I do.

1566
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 3: But it's like, you know what I'm saying, Like if

1567
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 3: I get it for you, then like you ain't really

1568
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 3: supporting me. I'm supporting you right now, like you know

1569
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So a lot of people ask for

1570
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 3: those Vice jodys, but then I think they came out

1571
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 3: with like some shoes people had, like MX's that mastered themond.

1572
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 3: So you know what I'm saying. It was a whole

1573
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 3: little movement, man. But he did they thing with that though.

1574
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 3: The thing with that, that Mimi Vice thing went hard.

1575
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 3: Like would you say better in the nineties or now,

1576
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 3: pat Riley? Oh, g Pat, that's a good question. Pat

1577
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 3: has been great for a long time. I don't have

1578
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 3: to say now. Just getting better with it now?

1579
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know what, he ain't boord with it.

1580
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1581
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 3: He probably more motivated now than he ever was. You

1582
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And we all know what it

1583
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 3: is to be motivated. We all know how I feel

1584
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 3: to be motivated, you know what I'm saying. And he's

1585
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 3: motivated to take you know, this team and this organization

1586
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 3: back to a championship level.

1587
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 2: Man. You know what I'm saying.

1588
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,919
Speaker 3: I can't have a conversation without Pat without walking away

1589
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 3: with some sort of wisdom and some shape form or fashion,

1590
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And that's why you know,

1591
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 3: I've been so fortunate in this league, and that's why

1592
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 3: when people say about going and playing somewhere else, Man,

1593
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 3: I just got things here that money came by. People

1594
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 3: talk about where you're going for dinner, and I'll be like,

1595
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 3: I'm going to my stepmoma house.

1596
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 2: Where you going? You know what I'm saying? How much

1597
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 2: you paying?

1598
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 3: Cause whatever you paying for it ain't gonna be like

1599
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 3: what I'm gonna eat tonight, you know what I'm saying.

1600
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 2: So you know, I just it's just certain luxuries.

1601
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 3: Man, It's a certain luxury to be able to sit

1602
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 3: down and you know what I'm saying, before we before

1603
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 3: y'all came. You know what I'm saying. We're sitting down here,

1604
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 3: we at the gambling table. Can I tell you that

1605
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 3: it's my gambling table. We done moved it over. It's

1606
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 3: where the poker and the dice and all that go down,

1607
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

1608
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 2: Saying, So it's fortunate.

1609
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 3: I'm fortunate to have the homeboys over and to do that,

1610
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, And to have those moments.

1611
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 3: So you know, for me, man, money came by those

1612
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 3: things like that. Man, it came by that. You know

1613
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I faced good everywhere here. You know

1614
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 3: what I mean, everywhere.

1615
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 6: Florida rappers better in the nineties or better now.

1616
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 2: Now?

1617
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 3: Definitely now, you know, you know, I think Ross has

1618
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 3: taken it to another level. You know double first. You know,

1619
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,959
Speaker 3: obviously Luke had that movement, you know what I'm saying,

1620
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 3: with the base.

1621
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 6: Instead of theties. He came out in the nineties.

1622
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but.

1623
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 3: His best music was close to it the late nineties

1624
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 3: early two thousands when I was in college. You know,

1625
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 3: Luke came out. You know what I'm saying. He was like,

1626
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 3: he went to court, fought for freedom of speech. You

1627
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Shout out to Uncle Luke Man,

1628
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 3: that's you know what I'm saying. Yeah, he fought for

1629
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 3: freedom of speech. Man went to court and put his

1630
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 3: reputation and put everything on the line so we could

1631
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 3: be able to say what we want to say on

1632
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 3: these track. Then we was always known for booty music

1633
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 3: and bass music. And then Trick took her to that

1634
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 3: next level with that third music. And then we had

1635
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 3: Ross who grab up a time. He just took us

1636
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 3: to another level with the same type of music, but

1637
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 3: just a little more articulate with just how he doing things.

1638
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 3: And we're talking businesses. Now we talked you know what

1639
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying. You know, fast cars, now we're talking this,

1640
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 3: that and the third we just got guys. That's just

1641
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 3: carrying the torch and just passing it along. You know

1642
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Look at city girls, what they're doing

1643
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 3: and success that they haven't right now.

1644
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 2: Ye know what I'm saying.

1645
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 3: Obviously there's no city girls without the success of Trina.

1646
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 3: You know, the torch is being passed. Man, I'm just

1647
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 3: good to see that. Man, it's a lot of young dude,

1648
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 3: don't yes, yess up? Money that right there is probably

1649
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 3: if I'm being probably honest, that's probably my favorite rapper.

1650
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 6: From We used to bump there to Saint Louis is probably.

1651
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 2: My favorite rapper from Saint.

1652
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: Louis is like half country, half Midwest, half West Coast.

1653
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 5: We like all over the place.

1654
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 3: If I'm not If I'm being honest, he's probably my

1655
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 3: favorite past We still bump j T Man to this day,

1656
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 3: to this day, and JT definitely from Miami. That's the

1657
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 3: homie too. You know, I have the opportunity to hang

1658
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 3: out with all like like the new kids, like Kodak Black.

1659
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 3: I love Kodak I love Kodak if. When I listen

1660
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 3: to the new generation, Kodak is one of the ones

1661
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 3: I listen to. I don't listen to too many, but Kodak

1662
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 3: went up. You know what I'm saying, I got I

1663
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 3: got man love for Kodak Man, Kodak straight and he

1664
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 3: love the Gators. You know I'm a Gator, So you

1665
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Man, I vibe with Kodak Man.

1666
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 2: My kids put me on that they think I ain't.

1667
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 3: Supposed to listen to what they listen to, though, so

1668
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 3: I probably I play Kodak.

1669
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 2: I sneak and play Kodak.

1670
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 5: We appreciate you, club, appreciate you.

1671
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 3: Y'all boys have Man. Y'all asked me to be on here.

1672
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 3: I was excited. Boy, you know what make it and

1673
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 3: be honest me. I don't be asked to be on

1674
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 3: a couple of podcasts, bro outside of like podcasts for

1675
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 3: like the Heat, or they asked me to do something

1676
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 3: like sports or something I ain't done.

1677
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: Nobody else podcast.

1678
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 3: This is the first podcast that I've done outside of

1679
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 3: like sports related and uff that I had to do

1680
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 3: for my job. Like, I was honored to be on

1681
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 3: y'all Boys, podcast, Like you know what I'm saying, you man,

1682
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 3: and show you the love that you deserve, like you know,

1683
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 3: these folks don't know like the hard work you put

1684
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 3: in and you came up and what you came through

1685
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 3: and how you represented a state that you've been living

1686
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 3: in your whole life. Literally got a tatting on my

1687
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,919
Speaker 3: back every literally got to stay on my back game,

1688
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 3: so y'all And like you said, man, real recognize real man, Like,

1689
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 3: ain't nobody getting on this podcast to talk to no

1690
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 3: phonies and fixed.

1691
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 2: Man, I ain't with all that. I got bad things

1692
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 2: to do. My son had a baseball game night, you

1693
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

1694
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 3: So we respect that I got for y'all is beyond

1695
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 3: the game of basketball. And that's why, like I'm here

1696
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 3: on this podcast doing this with y'all.

1697
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,439
Speaker 2: Man, like it's love, bro, Like it is what it is.

1698
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 3: Man, Like I respect that because it ain't like that

1699
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 3: out here in these days.

1700
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1701
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 3: You know how we all know how it is out

1702
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 3: here man. Yeah, man, So you know what I'm saying.

1703
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 3: It's gamine bro, and I appreciate you'll he bro for

1704
01:06:59,240 --> 01:06:59,919
Speaker 3: sure for sure.

1705
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 2: Yo.

1706
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 3: Check us out on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen, download, subscribe,

1707
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 3: check us out we out here, we getting it in

1708
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 3: knuckleheads yack,