1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jens Drive Time with John Hosier person and 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: Bryan Sextys Sexting. Jangs Drive Time starts right now. Good morning, 3 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: and welcome to Jack's Drive Time Brian Sexton along with 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: John Osier here as we get set to present to 5 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: you in our b blog an exciting interview Tony Dungee, 6 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: the Hall of famer who will be calling the game 7 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: with Al Michael's on Saturday nights, will join us. John, 8 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: how arey this morning? I'm good, I'm good. Looking forward 9 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: to talking to Tony. You haven't talked to him in 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: a while, and uh, it's always good to talk football 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: with ye and exciting to have him here without Michael's 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: and provide some commentary. So let's jump right into big 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: things here on Wednesday morning, and we will start with 14 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: playoff football. Look, playoff football is where it's at and 15 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: it's different then the regular season. The head coaches working 16 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: with his team to get them ready. Last week was 17 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: it was a playoff game for us, and we understand 18 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: that and you know the physicality and the speed of 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: that game, it's just going to carry over to this game. 20 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: But you know, having gone through it now with this 21 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: with with this team. I think it prepares you for 22 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: for what's coming, for what's coming next. But you have 23 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: to constantly remind guys that you know everything we do. 24 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: It's not a listen, it's not a it's not a 25 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: panic situation enough one, but you just gotta remind them 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: that that everything we do um on and off the 27 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: football field this week can matter and and uh not 28 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: only can affect you know, affect your performance, but you 29 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: can affect the team in the game as well. And 30 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: big thing too, so so so similar individually between the quarterbacks, 31 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: and when you take a look at it, it's the 32 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: same with both the offense and defensive the Chargers and 33 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: the Jaguars. You know, justin this tremendous quarterback obviously, but 34 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: you see some of the similarities there, even with some 35 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: of the skill receivers and and what they have, um, 36 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 1: you know running the ball. Similar And big thing three, 37 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: the best defense for the Chargers might be the Jaguars offense. 38 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: There are explosive players all over the field, John And 39 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: when you look at it, this is a game where 40 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: you're going to have to score points. And if you 41 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 1: look at the Chargers in particular in their six losses 42 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: this year, for seven losses. In their seven losses this year, 43 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: they have surrendered an average of twenty seven points. So 44 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: you figure you're gonna sco score. Um. You know, And 45 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: this is not meant to say anything negative about the 46 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: Jaguars defense, But as Doug Peterson likes to say, especially 47 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, every game becomes different and every challenge 48 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: is different. They've been able the last three weeks to 49 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: win games because of uh, partly because they've been playing 50 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: teams who do not have elite quarterbacks. When you play 51 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: teams with elite quarterbacks in the NFL, you by definition 52 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: have to score more. And your defense, especially the Jagguars 53 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: defense plays it becomes more what I've talked about all year, 54 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: getting a few where you break, serve getting off the field. 55 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: Think Dallas when they got two big plays out of 56 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: ra Seon Jenkins two interceptions and the defense they have 57 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: thirty four, but I would make the argument they were 58 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: huge in that game, made huge plays. Uh. To me, 59 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: it feels like, I don't think they go thirty four 60 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: this week, but the spirit of that game. You know 61 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: what I'm getting. You need to make big plays at 62 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: some point, and to me, this Jaguars defense it is 63 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: cut out for a game like this. Uh. I don't 64 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: think they're an interesting unit in the sense of if 65 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: if you walked up, if they were given up fifty 66 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: points a game, and you walked up to these players 67 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: say hey, you guys aren't any good, they wouldn't understand 68 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: what you were saying. They leave they're good. They believed 69 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: they were good even at mid season when the stats 70 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: said they weren't. So I think the confidence level is 71 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: what I'm getting at. They can give up twenty eight 72 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: in a game they game and on the last on 73 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: the last series, they still think they're going out there 74 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: and getting to stop. That has served them very well 75 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: this year. Well, their coverage hasn't been all that consistent 76 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: down the field, and we've chronicled that since Shaq Griffin 77 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: left the lineup, they've been trying to find the right combination. 78 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: But what's happened is guys up front of the place 79 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: twenty seven takeaways a year ago, they had nine. To 80 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: find their defense and seven takeaways defines the go ahead. 81 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: All right, let's jump to similarities because when you take 82 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: a look and let's take a look right here at 83 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: the matchup of the Jaguars offense, and just look and 84 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: see how similar the two are. Okay, or don't do that, 85 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: perhaps not um in all categories offense, defense, points, yards, 86 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: third down, red zone. The Jaguars even wins. Right, they 87 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: have ten Jaguars have nine. Um they are so similar. 88 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: These two teams are very, very similar. The quarterbacks right, 89 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: justin Herbert has some some uh passing yards right, um 90 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: Lawrence Right, they each have twenty five touchdowns. They've each 91 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: completed sixties percent of their passes. They've each been up 92 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: and down a little bit this year, meaning the teams, uh, 93 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: because they're not in eight and ten seven, so by 94 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: definition up and down a little bit. I think the 95 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: Chargers overall expected to be better than this this year. 96 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: I think they expected to be twelve wins ish uh. 97 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: And the injuries I think really bit them. Uh. You know, 98 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: the f C West was supposed to be this incredible division. 99 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: It turned out to be kNs sitting everybody else again, 100 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: but the Chargers and the Jaguars both if you think 101 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: about this, the Jaguar was win the last five games 102 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: to get in. The Chargers won four on the road 103 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: to get in, and then Sunday, Uh, people out there 104 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: a little worried about their performance Sunday. They had clinched 105 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: everything they could clinch when that game kicked off, So 106 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: I never take that much into account. They're both hot 107 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: coming in Uh. Both quarterbacks have great hair, which is key. 108 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: So but I think offensively there are some similarities even 109 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: beyond the hair. Um travisy Tan and lar Uh. I 110 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: don't say they're the same running back, but the offense 111 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: is placed similarly. They need to pass, but boy, you 112 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: better watch that running back if you're the opposing defenses, 113 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: or they can hurt you with big, big plays. When 114 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: the season began, because this is the third year for 115 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and Los Angeles, the expectation was they were 116 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: going to take the jump. They were gonna make the 117 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: playoffs right for the first time in his career, and 118 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: they were going to become one of those elite teams. 119 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: They spent the money in free agency. You're gonna make 120 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: the trade for Klo Mack the whole nine yards. So 121 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: we've been talking about the similarities between the two franchises. 122 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: Expectations for the Jaguars clearly weren't you know, they were 123 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: too right the ship right, make some forward progress and 124 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: set up a playoff run ine. So all the similarities 125 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: on the table in front of us. How much better 126 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: are the Chargers than the Jaguars? I I think, because 127 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be your favorite, is to say they 128 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: are if you're looking at it from thirty feet because 129 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: of the things you're talking about. Um, the reality is 130 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: the Jaguars being thirty ten out there now. Herbert was injured, 131 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: I think it was Keenan Allen didn't play, and Joey 132 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: Bosa was out of that game early, but so was 133 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: Rashawn Slater, their left tackle. It was still thirty eight ten, 134 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: and uh so the teams are so different now that 135 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily you, I don't necessarily think you can 136 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: look at that game and draw a conclusion. But you know, 137 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: I guess the best way for me to look at 138 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: this game, I would not be surprised at all if 139 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: if the Chargers win, I would not be surprised at 140 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: off the Jaguars win. There's no That's the point of 141 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: big thing to last week. Uh I talked all week 142 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: about them needing to make sure they understood the Titans 143 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: were good and that game could get close. But I 144 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: would have been surprised had the Jaguars lost because I 145 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: thought they were the better team. I thought, overall, there 146 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: were so many things that favored them. Eventually one played 147 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: out in the Josh Dabbs situation. UM, I don't necessarily 148 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: look at this game thinking, Wow, one team is better 149 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: than the other. It's a first round playoff game between 150 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: the fourth and fifth seed. By definition, it's this kind 151 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: of a game where it's close, and I think you 152 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: could just surmise that the Jaguars have caught up to 153 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: the Chargers. If they're that similar, they've made up what 154 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: you had hoped when they hired urban Meyer a year ago, 155 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: they'd hope that they'd be at this point right now, 156 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: right So then Doug Peterson has to come in and 157 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: give a coach of the year performance and catch up. 158 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: I just seems like they have. I'm find thinking the 159 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: key to this game. I think Trevor Lawrence at at 160 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: various times this year, for seventeen games, he has probably 161 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: looked like like you thought Trevor Lawrence would look in 162 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: what thirteen Um, I think he has to look in 163 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs. He has to make plays. He has to 164 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: be really, really good the way he has been good 165 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: a lot this year. To me, the better quarterback wins 166 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: this game Saturday. Totally agreed, all right. When we returned 167 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame coach, broadcaster author joins us. Tony 168 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: Dungee is up next on Jack's Drive Time on a 169 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: Wednesday morning from t I A A Bankfield in Jacksonville. 170 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: And welcome back to Jack's Drive Time, brought to you 171 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: here on a Wednesday morning by our friends at Jedome 172 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: Owns and also publics, publics where shopping is a pleasure. 173 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: Bryan Sexton, John Osier here as we get set for 174 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: playoff football at t I A bank Field, and we're 175 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: honored to bring on a man who has had a 176 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: very strong impact on the National Football League going back 177 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: almost fifty years, the former head coach of the Colts 178 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: and the Buccaneers. You know him as a Hall of 179 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: Famer h NBC Sports author Tony Dungee. Hello, coach, how 180 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: are you? Hello? Brian and John, I'm join well, how 181 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: are you good? Thanks so much for making time for 182 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: us this morning. Excited to get into the broadcast booth 183 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: for some playoff football on Saturday night, I really am. 184 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have the best game of the 185 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: week for sir coach, give us a sense from your 186 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: perspective on a national level of the job that Doug 187 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: Peterson has done this year. Coming in with, you know, 188 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: a train wreck of a franchise in January. They were 189 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: just trying to figure out how to get it all 190 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: back on the rail. And he's got him in the 191 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: playoffs in one year. Well, I have to tell you, 192 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: I have a vote on the AP Awards, and I 193 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: voted for Doug for Coach of the Year because I 194 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: think what he has done. I knew he would do well, 195 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: and I knew he had trance fuse energy into this 196 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: franchise and get them going, but I thought it would 197 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: be a couple of years to really get it. And 198 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: it clicked in after about eight weeks. Uh, it's amazing. 199 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: We had the Hall of Fame game for NBC we're broadcasting, 200 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: and I was down on the field before the game, 201 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: just kind of watching, taking notes, and Josh Allen came 202 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: up to me and he said, we are gonna be 203 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: on your show. We're gonna be on Sunday Night Football 204 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: by the end of the year. We're a good team. 205 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: People don't know it, but I promise you we're gonna 206 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: be there and we talked about that and he was right. Uh. 207 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: He said he could feel the energy. He thought coach 208 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: Peterson was the right person for them. Uh. He just 209 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: and I felt that from everybody there. Guys were so 210 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: excited that it was genuine and and they've done it. Coach. 211 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how well you know Doug, but you 212 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: know and now working with you for the seven or 213 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: eight years we worked together, and they're working with Doug. 214 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: So many similarities to me in terms of approach, in 215 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: terms of the calmness, in terms of keeping things in 216 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: an even keel. I'm wondering if you know him that 217 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: well and if you see some of those similarities, I 218 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: really do. I got to know dougu their Super Bowl 219 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: year in Philadelphia. I was working for NBC. We had 220 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: the game, and my assignment for the two weeks leading 221 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: up to that was to track the Eagles and report 222 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: on them. So I was in Philadelphia for a week 223 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: and I saw the same type of thing. I saw 224 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: how the players talked about him. I saw their response 225 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: to adversity. And that year, if you'll remember, uh, Nick 226 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: Foles had to take over um for Carson Wentz. Wentz 227 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: got hurt and everybody said, oh, the season's over. We 228 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: had a great run, but now it's not gonna work. 229 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: And none of the players felt that. Everyone felt Coach 230 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: Peterson will figure this out, and that calmness and that 231 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: sense of we're gonna be okay, that's that's what he transmits. Coach, 232 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: this team has an an incredible number of free agents 233 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: that contribute for it. And you know, uh, when you're 234 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: with the Colts, it was not a free agent based team. Um, 235 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: but I'm wondering if you could speak to how difficult 236 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: it is for a coach and for a team to 237 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: come together the way this team has. Uh, all three 238 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: wide receivers are all three their leading receivers are new 239 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: this year. Luikan's knew this year, Brandon Sheriff's knew this year. 240 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: That's a lot to come together in one offseason. And 241 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: that's why I voted for for Doug for Coach of 242 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: the Year, because that is a difficult task. Usually that's 243 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: a two or three year process. But he's molded these guys, 244 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: he's gotten them, gotten them going, and gotten them together, 245 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: and it's fantastic. I actually had phone calls with the 246 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: two coordinators yesterday and today and both of them. Pressed 247 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: and Mike call Well talked about just how these guys 248 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: have stepped in, and he also said something very interesting 249 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: to me. He said, we didn't go after that big luminary, 250 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: that twenty million dollar star. We went after guys who 251 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: were team players. We went after guys who were hard workers. 252 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: We went after good teammates. And that's one thing too, 253 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: I think, evaluating who you want and who you're going 254 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: to bring into the mix. And they brought some outstanding 255 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: young people in there. I happen to know a lot 256 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: about the Clemson program because I'm very close with coach Swaine, 257 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: had been around them, so when they drafted Trevor and 258 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: Travis E t N there was no doubt in my 259 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: mind the kind of people they were getting. And I 260 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: think that's been the hallmark of this this building process. Coach, 261 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: you had a team in Tampa that sort of came 262 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: out of nowhere and UH and I made the playoffs 263 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: and the city was electric. Uh. Probably much the way 264 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: Jacksonville is right now. What's Doug's task in UH getting 265 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: this team to sort of thrive on that feeling but 266 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: not have it overwhelmed them? Is that a thing? It 267 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: really is and you do want to build on that 268 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: and build on that energy and emotion. I remember the 269 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: year we we made the playoffs in nine seven for 270 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: the first time in Tampa, and our owners came over 271 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: on that Monday and said, Hey, we've got people buying 272 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: tickets at the stadium. Do you want to go over 273 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: and say hi to them? And we're gonna pass out 274 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: some donuts and juice. So I went over about nine 275 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning expecting to see a line that 276 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: twenty five people. The line was all the way around 277 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: the stadium. And that's the kind of energy and we 278 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: saw it. Um you know, we we saw it Saturday 279 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, and I just think it's going to be 280 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: an outstanding atmosphere. You want to embrace that. As Jaguars 281 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: players and coaches. You wanna know, Hey, our town is 282 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: behind us, our fans are behind us, but you still 283 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: have to say, this is football, and we've got to 284 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: go out and just execute just like we're doing the 285 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: regular season. Yes, the stakes are higher, Yes, everybody's going 286 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: to be energized, but you know what, we've got to 287 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: do our jobs the same way and not get too high. Coach, 288 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: you have a long history of defense in the National 289 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: Football League as a player and a coach. So I'm 290 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: curious your impressions of Mike Caldwell and the job he's 291 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: done this year. They've been challenged statistically in some categories, 292 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: but they have twenty seven takeaways, and just like last 293 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: Saturday night, they seem in the last month through this 294 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: winning streak to have a knack to make the play 295 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: that they need to. That's not something that's easy to coach. 296 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure. I love how they're building it because it 297 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: does remind me so much of my groups. It's it's 298 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: a lot of high energy players out there playing with speed. 299 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: I think they emphasize that speed and athleticism over size. 300 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: They do emphasize the takeaways, and that's how coach Caldwell 301 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: believes you win games, and he's got his guys believe 302 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: in that now, so they expect to make those game 303 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: changing plays. And yes, you're not these offenses now in 304 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 1: this day and age, with the rules and with these 305 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: quarterbacks you're playing. You're not gonna shut people down, You're 306 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: not holding people a hundred eighty yards in a game. 307 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: Things are gonna happen. But when you make the key 308 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: plays when you get to the third long and you 309 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: can get that sack, when you can get that force fumble, 310 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: that that interception, that's what's gonna turn the game around. Obviously, 311 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: you look back at the first game against these two 312 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: teams in Week three. Early interceptions set the offense up, 313 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: good field position, get the lead. That changes everything, and 314 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: that's these guys mindset. Coach, you mentioned having a feel 315 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: for Trevor before he came into the league. Um, I'm 316 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: just wondering your thoughts on him. You're with Peyton for 317 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: a long time. I'm not asking you for comparison there, 318 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: but what kind of franchise quarterback in this kid be 319 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: very similar mindset? Um, I see a lot of those 320 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: same qualities. A guy who galvanizes his teammates. Everybody likes him, 321 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: everybody wants to be around him. But the thing that 322 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: I think the biggest quality that Trevor and Peyton have 323 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: is they hold themselves to a high standard. Uh, Trevor 324 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: Lawrence wants to play well. When he makes mistakes, he 325 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: takes it personally, so he's working hard. And when you're quarterback, 326 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: is one of the hardest working players then everybody else 327 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: since is that they get in the same mindset and 328 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: he can hold them to a high standard. So I 329 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: do see a lot of similarities. And just one more 330 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: for me coaching, that is, you started a run of 331 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: sustained excellence over a period of you know, ten years 332 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. How hard is it? You get it started 333 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: right here now with Doug in the job that he's 334 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: done and his coordinators. What's the key to being able 335 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: to be consistently competitive and to build that culture going forward? 336 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: I think the key is to build that atmosphere where 337 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: people want to be there and they want to stay. 338 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: What you're gonna have now that the Jags have gotten 339 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: a little success and they've got some good young players 340 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: is while the next time around, how can we sign everybody? 341 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: How can we spread this money around and keep everybody here? Well, 342 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: you can't if people are saying, I'm just gonna go 343 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: to the highest bidder, because you're gonna have individual teams 344 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: that can outpay you. But when guys feel like, hey, 345 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: we've got something going special here. I want to stay here. 346 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: I want to be here and be part of this, 347 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: and they're willing to sacrifice a little bit individually to 348 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: stay in a good group, then you keep the momentum going. 349 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: They talk to their buddies, and free agents take a 350 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: little bit less to come to a good atmosphere in 351 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: a winning situation where you've got a chance to win 352 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. So I think it's the atmosphere that 353 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: you create, and I think Coach Peterson is the perfect 354 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: person to kind of lead that way and establish that. Coach, 355 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: we are so grateful for your time this morning, and 356 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: we're excited to have you in Jacksonville on Saturday night 357 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: and show you what Duvall is all about. Thanks so much. 358 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: You're wonderful coming over tomorrow to watch practice and do 359 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: some interviews with the players and stuff. I am, I'm 360 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: very pumped up. Usually when I come to Jacksonville, it 361 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't always pleasant, but this is gonna be 362 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: fun for me. Looking forward to it. Coach, have a 363 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: great Wednesday. Thanks, Thank you, Head coach Tony Dungee. What 364 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: an honor to have him on. Just what he's meant 365 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: not just a football teams, franchises, but to the league 366 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: as a whole. We're we're excited to have had him 367 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: on this morning. We'll take a break and when we 368 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: return we have got this or that. Jaguars Game Day 369 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: Radio is brought to you by by Star Credit. You 370 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: can do good, bank better And this or that is 371 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: brought to you by Price dot Com. The easiest way 372 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: to save money with comparison shopping, cash back coupons all 373 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: in one. It's free. Tried Price dot Com today, Brian, 374 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: and or that just sor that. Brian and John back 375 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: with you here on a Wednesday morning. Thanks again to 376 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: head coach Tony Dungey as a head coach, the coach, 377 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: Tony Dudgy, Hall of Famer, for joining us um time 378 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: for this or that. John, And I think you've got 379 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: the question of the week. Yeah, well, and it's sort 380 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: of obvious. Trevor, Lawrence or Justin Herbert and I think 381 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: the significant thing Brian's I don't know the answer. And 382 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: when I say it that way, I mean at the 383 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: beginning of the season, even after week three, Trevor was 384 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: the the player of the week after week three and 385 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert had been hurting, didn't play very well. Actually 386 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: it's not fair. He actually played very well considering the 387 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: rave of injury, but Trevor had outplayed him that day. 388 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: But I don't think many people in the league would 389 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: have said, well, I wonder who you'd rather have a 390 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: quarterback at that time, you would have still taken Justin 391 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: Herbert because you seen it now going in. I think 392 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: it's a legitimate question that I don't think you really 393 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: know the answer to. Um. I think Justin Herbert probably 394 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: still has a what is it, a you know, fifty 395 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: game body of work that overall he's done more in 396 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: the league than Trevor. But it feels like now that's 397 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: more of a time issue that he's been He's had 398 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: more time on task than Trevor. Well, he landed in 399 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: a situation with Keenan Allen and Mike Williams, and we 400 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: know that Trevor did not have that advantage. But right now, 401 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: these last eight or nine games, uh, I need to 402 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: toss up and I'm gonna take Trevor to see him 403 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: every day, you know, And not because I seem in 404 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: the hallway, don't get mad at the answer, but because 405 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: I see knowing what he's doing and where he's going. 406 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: But I think this is the question that could decide 407 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: the game. Well, look, I'm a fan of Justin Herbert 408 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: and in is they were trying to maneuver around in 409 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: the first round. I was all in on the Jaguars 410 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: moving up if they could they want to draft him, Yeah, 411 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: they tried. UM. So I think he's terrific. UM. But 412 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: I think the point of big thing too is they're 413 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: so similar completions twenty touchdowns each. Trevor has eight interceptions, 414 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: Justin has ten. Trevor has a point two quarterback rating. 415 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: Justin has three point one. Let me pick. Here's why 416 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: I'm going with Trevor. He fits Jacksonville, he fits this marketplace. 417 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: He's a southern kid, played up the road at Clemson. 418 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: You know, his faith is very strong and that fits 419 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: in this marketplace. And obviously a tremendous football player. But 420 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: if you had either one, you'd be really excited about 421 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: your future. John, and that's really the key to this team. 422 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: And I don't know that there is an answer to 423 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: the question, because you know, I think both of them 424 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: are on their way to being elite UM being. The 425 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: intriguing thing about Trevor remains, and this is an offseason 426 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: topic more than anything. UM. I still think Doug believes 427 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: that there's a year two in this system jump coming 428 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: next year. He's been saying it all and he hasn't 429 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: talked about it a whole lot the last two months 430 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: because Trevor has gotten better, hasn't been a topic. What's 431 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: wrong with Trevor? All that stuff. But you still gotta 432 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: believe that there's going to be a jump. If you 433 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: think this is Trevor's rookie season, which there's an argument 434 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: to be made, then boy, where it could go from here? 435 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: But that's that's a topic for another day. So I'll 436 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: take for my this or that. Is there pressure on 437 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: the Jaguars team like there was last Saturday night? Or 438 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: they playing with house money? What's your approach if you're 439 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: the head coach, Hey, you're not just here to be 440 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: here and to be glad, but you're here and no 441 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: one expected you to be here. You're ahead of schedule. 442 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: So where is it? Is this team tightened up? Or 443 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: is this team loose and relaxed knowing they've already exceeded expectations. 444 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: Is that T I. T A N E. D. Tightened 445 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: like tightened up? It's pretty good now? Um, I think 446 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: it will be the second. I think they're gonna play looser, 447 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's necessarily that that they, you know, 448 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: wanted that last week. I don't think the players. I 449 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: thought that way going in, but there's something in the 450 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: water when you have I think looking back on that game, 451 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars may have played different from the 452 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: start of that game. And I say different just you know, 453 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: I guess looser. Had they been a game down rather 454 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: than a game up, meaning in the standings, had they 455 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: still been the hunted or the hunter rather than hunted. 456 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: It just felt like that changed a little bit because 457 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: there was an expectation among the fans. I felt I 458 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: got multiple Eami was saying, hey, we got him this time, 459 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: we got him. Josh Dobbs, you know all that. I 460 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: think Josh Dobbs being a second or third year or 461 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: or second or third game quarterback, uh changed the dynamic 462 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: of that. Nobody thinks that there is a major quarterback 463 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: deficiency on Los angele Us this week. It's a strength. 464 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: So I think as a result, you go play that 465 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: game much looser. So I think I think more house 466 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: money than the other. So we talked, you know, the 467 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: walk from where we park on the other side of 468 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: the arena over here on the game UH day, it 469 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: took almost an hour because people wanted to stop and 470 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: talk there was such an intensity and an expectation, uh, 471 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: that this team was going to perform well. And then 472 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: I walked out on the field about an hour before kickoff, 473 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: and there's an energy level that's building and I'm not playing, 474 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: and I'm nervous for him, right because it's the Titans, 475 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: because and I know having lived the history of this rivalry, 476 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: and maybe it was just in my head, but I 477 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: don't think so. I think there you Clint to have 478 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: looked at the crowd last Saturday night and said they're 479 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: here to see us beat these guys and not tightened 480 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: up a little. Now having said that, I threw that 481 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: at every player in the locker room yesterday and I said, 482 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: were you tight? Will you be on Saturday? Yes? We were, 483 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: And they were sheepish in admitting it. They didn't want 484 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: to know we won't be. Yeah, And and uh, it's 485 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: a hard thing to explain. It's you. I don't think 486 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: you can coach that out of somebody. I think just circumstances. 487 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: Bring it in credit to him for figuring out where 488 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: you get through that, um, but I don't think that 489 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: game circumstance will be there this week, all right, So 490 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: that's this or that and when we return, we'll wrap 491 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: up this edition of Jags Drive Time on a Wednesday 492 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: morning in advance of the Jaguars and Chargers Saturday night 493 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: here at t I A A bank Field. We're back 494 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: after this. But for nine years, dream Finders Homes has 495 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: been proud to call themselves the official home builder of 496 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Visit dream finders Homes dot com for 497 00:27:52,520 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: all available inventory and dream Fighters ads. Go Jaguars pick 498 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: up under three to go on the first Cat Florence 499 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: Kates Jack. Yes, sir, yes sir, Yes, we we we 500 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: we we we up. We are day. Yeah, we get 501 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: a picture. Yeah, how about your war. We're gonna get 502 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: a jobs. Airs it out Berks the's targetting pitch and 503 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: accepted by Campbell. Who go and let's go to work. 504 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: Everyone want we do? Want to do? Help me? Dude, 505 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: Let's go biked up, which you could find on social 506 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: and on Jaguars dot com. Evan Ingram is terrific And 507 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: when I went to him yesterday in the locker room 508 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: to talk about the game, he wanted to go back 509 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: to last Saturday night and make sure that you all 510 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: knew that he was an utter disbelief in all to 511 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: use his exact words of the scene at the stadium 512 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: here on Saturday. Well, he's been a relevant a revelation. 513 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: I always stuggle with that word. Um. He And I've 514 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: said before in this show, a guy who had uh 515 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: didn't have the time in New York that he hoped 516 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: as a first round free agent or a first round 517 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: draft pick and had issues with the New York media 518 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: as any player who's not a Hall of Famer is 519 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: going to do up there. Um. But what a unbelievable 520 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: fit strength for this organization. Uh, you see it every 521 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: time he's miked up. You see every time he's on 522 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: one of our broadcast. To me, he defines his free 523 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: agency class has come in. And I was talking to 524 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: Za Jones, uh, Mark Long and I were talking to 525 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: him at his locker yesterday and they made the point 526 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: of you know, look at ev he he comes in, 527 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: he's he's on a one year deal, and he is 528 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: as bought in from day one as anybody on here. 529 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 1: And it's easy to say, well, you should be, you're 530 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: getting paid, but it's different. Everything's a Jaguar, I mean, 531 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: and all these freetents have done that. I believe he'll 532 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: be here next year. But again, it's not easy to 533 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: do that. And I do think the players have found out, Brian, 534 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: what we already knew is that if if you give 535 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: this fan base even a sip of success, it's off 536 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: the charts. It's been hard to support this team for 537 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: a decade. When you're six and ten, seven and nine 538 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: and or hoping to get to six and ten. You know, 539 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: the support for that, for what it has been has 540 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: been unreal good. That's what you're gonna see. That was 541 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: not surprising to me. Well, look, I talked. It was 542 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: great to see, but it was not a surprise. I 543 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: talked to Andrey sis go Um, Christian Kirk, Josh Allen. 544 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: They all made a point of bringing up Saturday Night themselves, 545 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: so they saw it. And then I went to Brandon Sheriff, 546 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: who is a total pro, but isn't necessarily the guy 547 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: who makes himself that available in the locker room. You know, 548 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: talking to the media is not necessarily his favorite thing 549 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: to do. But he goes, oh yeah, he wanted to 550 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: talk and wanted to talk about that scene and about 551 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: his decision to come here. And I'm previewing it because 552 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: it is my Baptist Health j O I player feature 553 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: in the first hour of radio pregame on Sunday, and 554 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: he was utterly terrific by the way. I heard maybe 555 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: from you, that Sounds of the Game is pretty good 556 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,719 Speaker 1: this week. It is good. It is good. It's uh 557 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: credit to the Jaguar. I even know what your department is, 558 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: the digital video but um, I joke, I didn't know 559 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: the department is. They do a great job. And Sounds 560 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: of the Game has become a you know, sort of 561 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: a cult following him on the fan base with reason. 562 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: It's fantastic. I heard that that this week is the 563 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: best ever, and obviously it fits because that was one 564 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: of the best ever games that we've witnessed here in 565 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: Jackson Vill. All right, we've gotta show for you tomorrow, 566 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: so we'll be with you on Thursday here from t 567 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: I A A. Bank Field. And as we go, like 568 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: to remind you that the game on Saturday night, the 569 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: Jaguars and the Chargers is presented by Daily's Daily's. It's 570 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: nicer here and we'll see you tomorrow.