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Speaker 2: talk about college football stupidity with.
Speaker 1: All of you. Speaking of college football stupidity, Dan, we
Speaker 1: have made it officially, well sort of, we have made
Speaker 1: it through the long, cold off season of college football. Yes,
Speaker 1: the summer is in the rearview mirror, at least in
Speaker 1: a college football since because starting today, right here, right now,
Speaker 1: we are launching our twenty nineteen preview series. We're starting
Speaker 1: with the ACC and, as long time listeners will know,
Speaker 1: over the course of time, we've evolved this format a
Speaker 1: number of times. We've gone through by a division by team. Today,
Speaker 1: we're just going to simplify this, yeo. We're going to
Speaker 1: do all of the ACC. One episode might run a
Speaker 1: little bit longer than you and I are our custom too,
Speaker 1: but that's okay. We want to make sure that we
Speaker 1: have a self contained ACC show for any and all
Speaker 1: who are interested. We've put an extraordinary amount of research
Speaker 1: into this, and I think we're excited about the next
Speaker 1: couple shows where we actually get to talk about some
Speaker 1: on field stuff.
Speaker 2: Yes, totally and completely true. The ACC kicks things off
Speaker 2: for us because it is America's Championship conference'.
Speaker 1: That is the correct accent in America's.
Speaker 2: That's what it stands for, America's Championship Conference. So our
Speaker 2: format is we're doing the entire conference. We've decided to
Speaker 2: split things up divisionally, and we are going to ask
Speaker 2: each other questions that we have about our own or
Speaker 2: the other person's division of quote unquote expertise that is correct.
Speaker 2: So these are our burning questions to each other, sort
Speaker 2: of like we had with the Q and A, where
Speaker 2: we came up with our own cues and a's and
Speaker 2: we're using that to discuss America's Championship Conference.
Speaker 1: I have not written out, at least not yet, a
Speaker 1: full on role playing series for the ACC or really
Speaker 1: any conference, but I'm not ruling it out because, as
Speaker 1: you know, these preview episodes sometimes take a bit of
Speaker 1: a left turn.
Speaker 2: I don't want to rule that out in ACC game
Speaker 2: like a Dasio's Dungeon, So the dice.
Speaker 1: The way, thank you, the way that we've broken this
Speaker 1: up up. You're gonna ask me questions about the ACC
Speaker 1: Coastal or as we know it here and love it here,
Speaker 1: the ACC Postal. Everybody's far and far. I am going
Speaker 1: to ask you questions about the ACC Atlantic or the
Speaker 1: so called ACC Fatlantic.
Speaker 2: Yep, this is true, and I believe Christian Wilkins. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, thanks to Christian Wilkins, there's something
Speaker 2: beautiful about the Fatlantic.
Speaker 1: So Dan, I guess we're a little bit undecided on
Speaker 1: what sounds we would like to use to lead into right,
Speaker 1: all this great information here could go breaking news, go,
Speaker 1: Picks of the week, could go lightning, round, shootout, murdered.
Speaker 1: What are you feeling?
Speaker 2: Just do what anybody knew to playing Street Fighter two
Speaker 2: would do and just mash those buttons on your soundboard.
Speaker 1: That actually came out.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what, that's not bad, and there is
Speaker 2: a Patriot League tie in and we'll get to it.
Speaker 1: That's true. Wow, pretty good.
Speaker 2: That's I mean, you could put the hypothetical one just
Speaker 2: because it's a questioning sound, but I don't know if
Speaker 2: you have.
Speaker 1: That loaded up. I will find it before you put
Speaker 1: it in post. Put it in post. So, Daniel, I
Speaker 1: want to start by asking you a very important question.
Speaker 2: Are we going back and forth or are we going
Speaker 2: division and then the other division.
Speaker 1: I'm just going to see where the where the show
Speaker 1: takes us down. Let's do it.
Speaker 2: Let's get in the gondola of information.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Clemson. Okay, perhaps a bit
Speaker 1: of a cliche start to this show, but I refuse. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's what I want to know about Clemson. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to know with all of their turnover on defense.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm Okay, we can talk three levels, all through levels.
Speaker 1: Does that to you, as the newfound expert on the
Speaker 1: ACC Fatlantic, does that represent any kind of significant step
Speaker 1: backwards in terms of production, in terms of expectations? What
Speaker 1: does it mean for the twenty nineteen rendition of the
Speaker 1: Clemson Tigers? Define significant?
Speaker 2: I would define what does government mean to you? No,
Speaker 2: what I would mean by significant is does it mean
Speaker 2: we're going to see I don't know, a twenty point
Speaker 2: or a twenty place drop in their SMP plus defensive ratings?
Speaker 2: Is their defense going to get noticeably worse? Now that
Speaker 2: We're going to have so many new faces playing on
Speaker 2: that side of the ball. So are they going to
Speaker 2: fall down to merely really really good or fall to
Speaker 2: excellent instead of they are all assassins and never blink.
Speaker 1: Instead of being the number two defense, are they now
Speaker 1: going to be number twenty two something like that? Okay,
Speaker 1: which is still very good. But short answer is they
Speaker 1: won't fall that far. I don't believe. No. The short
Speaker 1: answers no.
Speaker 2: The losses up front are significant, and I think it
Speaker 2: will change how they play defense a little bit. Perhaps
Speaker 2: they bring more pressure because they can't count on Cleveland
Speaker 2: ferle I forget how they pronounced that officially, but and
Speaker 2: Austin Bryant off the edge and then you know everything
Speaker 2: Christian Wilkins and Dexter Lawrence did in the middle. So
Speaker 2: they're not going to be able to trot out a
Speaker 2: team within a team in the way that they've been
Speaker 2: able to do these past couple of years. But Clemson's
Speaker 2: participation levels and rates on their defense, especially it's through
Speaker 2: the roof. They get in so many guys both when
Speaker 2: the game is on the line and not because they
Speaker 2: happen to blow out a number of teams. So they
Speaker 2: get a number of people on the field, So whether
Speaker 2: it's I think there's two Xavier's, but Xavier Thomas is
Speaker 2: the big one. And then whether it's Justin Foster, whether
Speaker 2: it's you know, Darien Kendrick who's now switching from receiver
Speaker 2: to corner. Like throughout the defense, they're working in guys
Speaker 2: who either have a ton of promise or have played
Speaker 2: a ton for this defense. So I think the big
Speaker 2: difference will be how much they trust the defensive line
Speaker 2: to do things alone, but results wise, against the offenses
Speaker 2: they're going to be facing at least after Texas A
Speaker 2: and M and I technically before Texas A and M
Speaker 2: with Georgia Tech, there will be a drop off, but
Speaker 2: nothing noticeable to the eye. It'll be like a magic
Speaker 2: eye drop off where you're really gonna have You're really good.
Speaker 1: At those, right, I'm very good at those.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna have to squint, You're gonna have to
Speaker 2: dive deep. Situationally, there's just too much talent there, you know,
Speaker 2: there's too much continuity with the coaching staff. And we've
Speaker 2: seen this before with Clemson. We're going into the season.
Speaker 2: We're like they lost ten of eleven start and like
Speaker 2: up just as good because so much of defense is
Speaker 2: effort and confidence going both ways, players being confident in
Speaker 2: the defensive staff and the defensive staff being confident in
Speaker 2: letting their own players loose and trusting them to execute
Speaker 2: a game plan. So with who they're facing, with how
Speaker 2: they've recruited, you know, they bring in the number one, two, three,
Speaker 2: defensive linemen whatever, each and every year. It's great that
Speaker 2: Isaiah Simmons is coming back behind the line they're leading
Speaker 2: tach last year, even with a couple of losses that
Speaker 2: linebacker behind him. The secondary is mostly intact. If you
Speaker 2: remember the pick six against Bama with aj Terrell, there's
Speaker 2: a lot, there's a lot, Yeah, And I mean so
Speaker 2: I don't see any sort of WHOA what happened kind
Speaker 2: of drop off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, it was sort of a rhetorical question.
Speaker 1: I think everyone who listens to the show totally fair
Speaker 1: knows the answer already. But it's a question that frankly
Speaker 1: needs to be asked. This is a team that went
Speaker 1: fifteen to oh last year. Of course, they won the
Speaker 1: national championship, beat Notre Dame in the playoff, beat Alabama
Speaker 1: in very convincing fashion. In that championship game, and now
Speaker 1: they bring back a lot on the offensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball. We talked here about defense, and I'll go
Speaker 1: back to that in a second, but so many key
Speaker 1: contributors are coming back on the offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: Not to mention Trevor Lawrence potentially a Heisman front runner.
Speaker 1: He into a tongue of I Loa, potentially duking it
Speaker 1: out for the Heisman. They are the odds on favorite,
Speaker 1: at least at this early juncture in the preseason. Also
Speaker 1: got Travis etn maybe the best running back in college football,
Speaker 1: t Higgins justin Ross they're back, and Maari Rodgers got hurt,
Speaker 1: maybe back later in the year, but still has eligibility
Speaker 1: so huge. The point here is that so much of
Speaker 1: that potential and offense is coming back that at least
Speaker 1: to some degree, looking at the schedule, it will definitely
Speaker 1: balance out any rough spots will have in the beginning
Speaker 1: with the defense. But look, replacing four guys on that
Speaker 1: incredible defensive line, their top three linebackers, five of their
Speaker 1: top six tacklers as a whole, there's going to be
Speaker 1: a bit of an adjustment. I like that you bring
Speaker 1: up the fact that Brent Venables is so good at
Speaker 1: working in a rotation. That's part of his brilliance as
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator. It's played a huge role in building depth,
Speaker 1: in building this sustained success that we've seen now under
Speaker 1: Daboswiny and Brent Venables at Clemson. So I think Clemson's
Speaker 1: in a great spot. The schedule's favorable. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you look at the schedule at all, they do.
Speaker 1: And I have an order of threats that I'm curious
Speaker 1: your opinion about. So the three games that jump out
Speaker 1: to me, you got Texas A and M in week two.
Speaker 1: You've also got a road game at South Carolina on
Speaker 1: November thirtieth. The one that I'm most intrigued by, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's the biggest threat, but the one
Speaker 1: that I'm most intrigued by is actually in week three.
Speaker 1: It's the week after that A and M game. Everyone's
Speaker 1: going to be amped up for A and M at home,
Speaker 1: but then the very next week Clemson on the road
Speaker 1: at Syracuse. Should be a pretty good Syracuse team, And
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to be a letdown
Speaker 1: spot there, but at least the dish juncture in late July.
Speaker 1: There's some potential there.
Speaker 2: Dan, Yeah, hard to believe that there's going to be
Speaker 2: a letdown against the team they almost lost to last
Speaker 2: year and did lose to the year before. I think
Speaker 2: they're going to be ready. This is a not a
Speaker 2: championship caliber team. This is a championship team. So my
Speaker 2: order is Texas A and M Syracuse, South Carolina, though
Speaker 2: I think South Carolina is better, Yes, Syracuse, I think situationally,
Speaker 2: Syracuse is in a better spot to win that game.
Speaker 2: And then at the end, just in terms of potential,
Speaker 2: Florida State, but that's that's pretty far after. So that's
Speaker 2: my order of threats because there's not much you can
Speaker 2: point to one offense. Mitch Hyatt's gone, but they've recruited
Speaker 2: the line really, really well, and the second half is
Speaker 2: pretty much cake until South Carolina. And I believe both
Speaker 2: Florida State and Clemson have buys before that game, So
Speaker 2: the Florida State threat is pretty pretty microscopic. So that's
Speaker 2: where I'm at. At worst, they're going they go eleven
Speaker 2: and one.
Speaker 1: I agree, you look across the board at all the
Speaker 1: positional groups. Probably the best quarterback. I think he's the
Speaker 1: best quarterback in the league. Best running back, best wide
Speaker 1: receiving core, best line, best defensive line, maybe in the
Speaker 1: top two if you want to go that far. At linebacker,
Speaker 1: at defensive back, they're the best defensive line in the conference. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think it's up there.
Speaker 2: I got I mean, certainly up there. I can't I
Speaker 2: can't name them right now when Nina really played significant,
Speaker 2: significant snaps.
Speaker 1: Yet it's either them or Miami. Yeah, it's one or
Speaker 1: the other. I think Syracuse has a couple really good.
Speaker 1: At Syracuse is good. We'll get this. There's a couple
Speaker 1: of conversations to me. The point is Clemson is still
Speaker 1: very good. Still your odds on favorite for sure to
Speaker 1: win their side of the conference and probably the conference
Speaker 1: as a whole. No, not probably full on favorite. They
Speaker 1: are the favorite.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where would you like to go next? You want
Speaker 2: me to ask you a question? Do you want to
Speaker 2: stick at Atlantic?
Speaker 1: Now ask me a question. Let's go post right here.
Speaker 2: Let's start with what I believe to be not the
Speaker 2: most important, but maybe the most interesting team in the
Speaker 2: in the postal Georgia Tech. Because this is, as you know,
Speaker 2: because you own a hat, an Orange Bowl caliber program.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Jeff Collins takes over for Paul Johnson, meaning
Speaker 2: the option done with in Atlanta, Atlanta, is there reason
Speaker 2: to believe Georgia Tech's offense.
Speaker 1: Because I think the defense still is a long way.
Speaker 2: To go as well, but won't look like a group
Speaker 2: of newborn giraffes coming together to play an organized sport
Speaker 2: as they go dramatically away or at least a little
Speaker 2: bit at a time away from that flex bone.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's been interesting because when Paul Johnson stepped down,
Speaker 1: he himself was talking to a similar point, and his
Speaker 1: spin at the time was, Hey, these kids are still
Speaker 1: football players. Like they didn't play this system that we
Speaker 1: just ran when they were in fifth grade. They were
Speaker 1: recruited to a system, but there's still really good football players.
Speaker 1: And the larger implication that he was driving towards was
Speaker 1: they can play in any system, right. Can somebody throw
Speaker 1: the ball forward? Can somebody throw the ball forward? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And you know these things, they all sound fine, and
Speaker 1: they're very inspirational, and of course that's the kind of
Speaker 1: thing he's going to say. But at some point, Dan,
Speaker 1: at some point, the rubber meets the road, and that's
Speaker 1: when you get the real transition. Which is essentially what
Speaker 1: you're asking about here. How is this personnel going to
Speaker 1: adapt to Dave pat Node's system on offense because he
Speaker 1: wants to achieve more balance, He's not going to run
Speaker 1: that option. The truth is, Dan, we've got quarterbacks recruited
Speaker 1: to an entirely different system. We've got inexperienced wide outs,
Speaker 1: we've got an offensive line that, frankly is used to
Speaker 1: blocking for the run and not so much the pass.
Speaker 1: The vision that I keep having in my head is,
Speaker 1: remember when Dennis Northcutt was playing quarterback for the Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns for that brief moment in time, very vaguely, And
Speaker 1: it wasn't all that successful because Dennis north cut was
Speaker 1: wide receiver, right, But damn if it wasn't interesting, Yeah,
Speaker 1: damn if it was, and at least exciting enough to
Speaker 1: keep you interested to watch to see what was going
Speaker 1: to happen with the Browns and offense.
Speaker 2: We've all rooted for teams that have put somebody under
Speaker 2: center or in the shotgun where we've thought, I don't
Speaker 2: know if this guy is the guy. He looks like
Speaker 2: a left fielder coming into the mouth, right, what's happening?
Speaker 1: Just like a lot of wildcat concepts that maybe somebody
Speaker 1: could throw it, and if they do, we'd be interested
Speaker 1: in seeing seeing what happens there. I remember the Chris
Speaker 1: Harper era at Oregon very well. Sure I feel that
Speaker 1: way about this version, this twenty nineteen version of the
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech Yellowjackets. It's going to be a transition. It's
Speaker 1: probably going to be ugly, okay. I So on offense,
Speaker 1: I guess the answer to your question is that, to
Speaker 1: some degree, yes, it's going to be a flaming bag
Speaker 1: of you know what. But look, there are questions on
Speaker 1: defense along the line as well, and they're young, but
Speaker 1: it should be a pretty okay defense. Jeff Collins knows
Speaker 1: how to coach at least that side of the ball.
Speaker 1: There are pieces there. They're going to hold their own.
Speaker 1: That's a bright spot. I don't want to focus on
Speaker 1: the negative so much, but I think defense is a
Speaker 1: bright spot. I like what Jeff Collins has done. He's
Speaker 1: a guy who was born in Georgia. He's had two
Speaker 1: stops at Georgia Tech. He has really steered into the
Speaker 1: fact that Georgia Tech is in Atlanta. He's gone full
Speaker 1: on Atlanta with the branding of this Georgia Tech.
Speaker 2: I think waffle House Wednesdays, like on the video series
Speaker 2: on their website waffle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's doing that. He's tweeting about Big Boy right
Speaker 1: like he's he's fully indoctrinated into Atlanta. And I think
Speaker 1: that's a smart move to try and just brand this
Speaker 1: program a little bit differently. There are still gonna be
Speaker 1: weird things, like he said, he said, Tech's not gonna
Speaker 1: have a depth chart. Instead, They're going to have something
Speaker 1: that he's calling the quote unquote line, which is quote
Speaker 1: a measure stick that will judge whether players are ready
Speaker 1: to play. M hmm, a little too like New Age
Speaker 1: Herm Edwards for my liking, but hey, he's trying to
Speaker 1: start something new. The schedule certainly is not doing them
Speaker 1: any favors, if you got that up. But it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not doing them any favors. They open at Clemson
Speaker 1: week one home against Georgia last week of the year.
Speaker 1: Tough book in there. But the answer to your question,
Speaker 1: very long windedly, is it's gonna be weird, but it
Speaker 1: could be fun and there are some bright spots and
Speaker 1: I really like Jeff Collins.
Speaker 2: So by the end of the season they could be
Speaker 2: full on adolescent giraffes and not newborn's struggling to find
Speaker 2: the ground under them.
Speaker 1: I think that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's you mentioned the line, and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna connect Georgia Tech to something that you have buried
Speaker 2: deep within the recesses of your memory. If the line
Speaker 2: for success is be better than Demetrius Jones, Notre Dame,
Speaker 2: Oh God against Georgia TI trying to all of the
Speaker 2: sudden install a new offense on the fly, is do
Speaker 2: you think the line can be above that by mid season?
Speaker 1: Probably not mid season? Probably not. How many points did
Speaker 1: they score in that game? Three? I blacked out? But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, there's a lot of talent, but it's
Speaker 1: just it's for a different system. And I do subscribe
Speaker 1: to the notion that these are still athletic kids. They
Speaker 1: still know how to play football. They're football players first
Speaker 1: and not option players first. Rue. I mean, just there,
Speaker 1: it takes a while. This is not easy stuff to
Speaker 1: just pick up. You can't study it overnight and then
Speaker 1: get all the machinations down the next day when you
Speaker 1: go out for practice. It's just it's gonna take a
Speaker 1: while to set in. I think Jeff Collins is a
Speaker 1: good defensive coach, which is going to help pick up
Speaker 1: some of the slack for the offense. But it's just
Speaker 1: going to take a while till they adjust to Dave
Speaker 1: Patnode's system. I want to feel old, not particularly, but
Speaker 1: go ahead. Georgia Tech's running back in that game to
Speaker 1: shard choice. The great to shard choice is now Georgia
Speaker 1: Tech's running backs coach. Wow, Okay, shall we move thirty
Speaker 1: three to three?
Speaker 2: By the way, so that's the bar for success, being
Speaker 2: able to score more than three points against the two
Speaker 2: thousand and seven version of themselves.
Speaker 1: It's very incestuous. I apologize, Dan. Let's move on. Okay.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Syracuse Orange. Let's you
Speaker 1: familiar with something called the Ewing theory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am. I mean I for college football. I
Speaker 2: like the Manning theory. The Manning theory t Martin winning
Speaker 2: the national championship after Peyton Manning.
Speaker 1: So the Ewing theory is Bill Simmons thing about Patrick
Speaker 1: Ewing and Patrick Ewing not playing for the Knicks and
Speaker 1: the team got better essentially with him not on the court.
Speaker 1: But the Manning theory I think we could apply here
Speaker 1: as well. Peyton Manning leaves. What happens the very next
Speaker 1: year tem Martin, Tennessee Volunteers win the BCS Championship. They're
Speaker 1: the first BCS champion, right yep. This year for Syracuse,
Speaker 1: Eric Dungee star quarterback, big kid, he's graduated. And now
Speaker 1: Tommy DeVito, who I'm still gonna try and call him
Speaker 1: in a guttada Vito.
Speaker 2: The Chris bermanization of Ty hilden Brand is complete.
Speaker 1: It's not full Berman. I think it's catchy, okay, continue,
Speaker 1: de Vito is taking over the Dino Babers offense. He's
Speaker 1: a different quarterback. He's fast, but he's not quite the
Speaker 1: runner of Eric Dungee. Is Syracuse now a better team
Speaker 1: on offense despite the fact that Eric Dungee, who was
Speaker 1: so good for them for so long, is now officially
Speaker 1: off the team.
Speaker 2: Eric Dungee was not a great passer. I would go
Speaker 2: as far as saying he was below average, but coupled
Speaker 2: with his running, he was a plus at quarterback for sure.
Speaker 2: On big games with him, you know what they have.
Speaker 2: I think both the quarterbacks played against Florida State in
Speaker 2: the very comfortable win last year. Tommy DeVito looked very
Speaker 2: good against North Carolina real Roff both looked real rough
Speaker 2: against Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The reason I'm hesitant is the offensive line has questions.
Speaker 1: They're okay.
Speaker 2: At receiver, they lost a big piece to transfer, They're okay.
Speaker 2: I like mo'neil some at running back. One of my
Speaker 2: bigger questions is what does this offense actually look like?
Speaker 2: Because Eric Dungee ran the ball so much. I think
Speaker 2: I saw I was twelve or thirteen non sack carries
Speaker 2: a game. So that's either going to a running back
Speaker 2: or it's going to a running back via screen or
Speaker 2: swing pass, sort of how Washington State uses their running
Speaker 2: backs in a more wide open passing offense. I don't
Speaker 2: think Tommy DeVito will be running in the way that
Speaker 2: Eric Dungee did. I like DeVito's arm talent. I like
Speaker 2: him as a talent, but to run that system, you
Speaker 2: got to have the bodies, you got to have the
Speaker 2: star power. And I think they're fine. They were great
Speaker 2: special teams which affected few position last year. There was
Speaker 2: a lot to like about Syracuse's I think they finished
Speaker 2: nine to three in the regular season. I think they
Speaker 2: take a step back. I think Tommy DeVito is like
Speaker 2: two thirds good and a third kind of rough around
Speaker 2: the edges. So I have here on my little document,
Speaker 2: You have Syracuse, then I have your question and the
Speaker 2: way I interpreted his touchdown Tommy or Tommy Defedo, and
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 1: Proud of it.
Speaker 2: I hope we don't have to call him Tommy Defito,
Speaker 2: but it really worked out quite well with his last name.
Speaker 2: So I think they're a step behind. I think he'll
Speaker 2: be fine, but I don't think he's going to be
Speaker 2: the gamer that Dungee was necessarily in huge spots. So
Speaker 2: I have them going from nine wins to about seven.
Speaker 2: All to say, still good, still dangerous against whoever they play,
Speaker 2: especially since Clemson's coming to Western New York. The defensive
Speaker 2: line real nice position to ask. You mentioned this on
Speaker 2: the Dude episode. The pass rush should be good. There
Speaker 2: are elements that I'm not crazy about, but Syracuse actually
Speaker 2: tightened up really well last year on third downs and
Speaker 2: in the red zone, so situationally and special teams wise,
Speaker 2: there's a lot to like about what they showed last
Speaker 2: year carrying forward, so I still think they're a bowl team.
Speaker 2: I still think if they get a couple of breaks
Speaker 2: at the end of games against you know, the ACC
Speaker 2: is fine, but it's nothing crazy stacked. They could get
Speaker 2: back to eight wins. I still think they're a tick
Speaker 2: worse than they were last year.
Speaker 1: That's fair. You mentioned the line, I'm going to call
Speaker 1: these guys out again, but Alton Robinson, Kendall Coleman, those
Speaker 1: are the names to watch along the line. And Syracuse
Speaker 1: actually has a ton of guys coming back who played
Speaker 1: as freshmen. Yeah, last year. You look at their defensive backfield,
Speaker 1: mostly freshmen, really good, almost surprisingly, so they're pretty much
Speaker 1: all back. Andre Cisco is the guy in the defensive backfield.
Speaker 1: He's a sophomore and he's already stars ballhawk back there.
Speaker 1: Keep your eyes and ears open for that name as
Speaker 1: you're watching ACC football. This year could be interesting against
Speaker 1: some of the competition, most notably Clemson very early on
Speaker 1: in the year. So you know, Syracuse won nine games
Speaker 1: the regular season, they won ten if you count the ball.
Speaker 1: There is another school of thought. Of course, this was
Speaker 1: a breakout year for Dino Babers, and he's got a
Speaker 1: lot to be excited about. There's a I guess more
Speaker 1: negative school of thought around what Syracuse did in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: and that is that you should temper the results that
Speaker 1: we saw in the field, given the fact that it
Speaker 1: was sort of a down year in the ACC as
Speaker 1: a whole, you could make that case. But you still
Speaker 1: got to win that last year. Yeah, I still gott
Speaker 1: to win the games in front of you. I like
Speaker 1: Syracuse to win nine again this season. I like where
Speaker 1: they're at. I do. I feel good about what Dino
Speaker 1: is building up there. I like Tommy DeVito. Tommy Defto
Speaker 1: might be a bit extreme. If in a gotta DeVito
Speaker 1: is eighty percent of a full Berman, that's at least
Speaker 1: seventy percent. That's such an old reference. Though we span
Speaker 1: generations here on the show. You know that it's true.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: So the biggest threats outside of Clemson for Syracuse, if
Speaker 2: I'm guessing, if I'm putting words in your mouth, are
Speaker 2: NC State Florida State. Would agree that they're both on
Speaker 2: the road or some combination of their October of NC
Speaker 2: State pit Florida State.
Speaker 1: I like Syracuse. I think they finish second in the
Speaker 1: Fan nine attic. Okay, fair enough, Can I ask you
Speaker 1: a question? Please? Boo doo dooo do do Boo doo doo.
Speaker 2: Another team that is certainly worth talking about. In terms
Speaker 2: of changes at the top, It's got to be Miami.
Speaker 1: Caine's baby c Ans former.
Speaker 2: What Mississippi State Louis is an attack Texas Temple ESPN
Speaker 2: coach Manny Diaz. So job number one obviously discovering a
Speaker 2: clean burning, renewable source for swag fusion, Yes, swag fusion.
Speaker 1: What is job number two?
Speaker 2: If Miami's challenging for the postal with I think a
Speaker 2: lot coming back on defense and not so much on offense.
Speaker 2: Job number one is definitely the clean burning swag Yes, always, always, always, always.
Speaker 2: Job number two is getting more consistent quarterback play. Because
Speaker 2: last year they were not that far off from having
Speaker 2: a much better season. They could have gotten a little
Speaker 2: bit more at the quarterback spot. It stayed healthy out wide,
Speaker 2: it would have been a much different story. I'm being facetious.
Speaker 2: You get the wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think the same holds true at quarterback this year. Now,
Speaker 1: what I like is that Manny Diaz brought over Dan
Speaker 1: Enos as the offensive coordinator and quarterback coach. Opened some
Speaker 1: eyes when he came over from Alabama, but that was
Speaker 1: a really good move. He's been working since he got
Speaker 1: on campus to try and rebuild that quarterback position the
Speaker 1: Canes last year. Listen to this six point one yards
Speaker 1: per attempt. That was one hundred and sixteenth nationally. Almost
Speaker 1: as bad as Kansas, not quite right, too close for comfort,
Speaker 1: point two yards better than Kansas. If you're a betting man,
Speaker 1: if you're looking at the quarterback position this year, I
Speaker 1: still think you look at Nikosey Perry wasn't great, wasn't
Speaker 1: great last year, but showed flashes. He's probably your starter
Speaker 1: on August twenty fourth, in week zero is what we
Speaker 1: call this now, and they square off against Florida. He's
Speaker 1: got the most experience. But don't forget Tate Martel came
Speaker 1: down from Ohio State. He transferred in. He's immediately available.
Speaker 1: Also Jaron Williams, red shirt freshman. He is still in
Speaker 1: the mix as well. If you listen to the way
Speaker 1: Manny Diez tells it, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think Tate Martel is that good. Could well be
Speaker 2: he's going to be starting, but we'll see. So then
Speaker 2: is their confidence from what you can tell in the
Speaker 2: combination of dan Enos and a good amount of skill
Speaker 2: talent albeit raw at Miami, and improvement at quarterback because
Speaker 2: you were very kind, albeit I guess facetious in what
Speaker 2: Miami looked like near the end of the year. Offensively,
Speaker 2: it was back with getting a good yeah, getting a
Speaker 2: good performance from their defense regardless, and still not being
Speaker 2: able to pull out games.
Speaker 1: Is there reason?
Speaker 2: Like obviously, you know, coming out of camp and things
Speaker 2: like that and press conferences and media day, But we're like, well,
Speaker 2: let's you know, it's a new year, it's a new
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. But it's gonna take somebody better than
Speaker 2: to Cocy Perry, isn't it. I would think so, or
Speaker 2: at least a better version of to Coocy Perry. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And quite frankly, there are just still a bunch of
Speaker 2: unknowns about how these guys are going to look in
Speaker 2: this system. I like the fact, though you mentioned the defense,
Speaker 2: we have to bring that up many. Diaz has done
Speaker 2: a couple of things all right.
Speaker 1: Firstly, he went out and used a transfer portal, maybe
Speaker 1: more so than any other college football coach, to add
Speaker 1: bodies just about every position to build depth. And he
Speaker 1: did so on defense where he's really going to need
Speaker 1: it because they're a little thin. They're good at the
Speaker 1: good starters, yeah, good starters, talented on the top line,
Speaker 1: But a little thin defense is going to be the
Speaker 1: strength of this team. Miami won of just nineteen teams
Speaker 1: last year to allow fewer than twenty points per game.
Speaker 1: They led the nation and tackles for loss, which is
Speaker 1: a staple of many Diaz defense. And then they went
Speaker 1: out and they hired Blake Baker away from Louisiana Tech
Speaker 1: to run the defense, someone who's very like minded, shares
Speaker 1: that same defensive mentality with Manny Diaz. Turnover loock from
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen wasn't quite there in twenty eighteen, but we
Speaker 1: still know that this is an aggressive defense. They like
Speaker 1: to take the football away or remember the turnover chain
Speaker 1: thing it gripped the nation two years ago. Didn't quite
Speaker 1: carry over, but this is This is a defense that
Speaker 1: likes to get behind the line of scrimmage and affect
Speaker 1: the point of attack. So I think that as a
Speaker 1: bedrock for where Manny wants to take this team in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen is important. There is talent on offense, it's
Speaker 1: just about assembling the pieces, getting better quarterback play. And
Speaker 1: I think we also need to mention the offensive line.
Speaker 1: The offensive line is a bit of a work in progress,
Speaker 1: not exactly sure which direction that's going to go. But
Speaker 1: if they can get better quarterback play, if they can
Speaker 1: figure out that offensive line and feel more confident about it,
Speaker 1: I think twenty nineteen is a successful campaign in year
Speaker 1: one for many das.
Speaker 2: You actually mentioned one more thing that you wanted to
Speaker 2: talk about about Manny Daz.
Speaker 1: You're talking about his hair.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Ty, obviously, if there's anybody who's going to
Speaker 2: talk about a coach's hair on this show, maybe steal
Speaker 2: that thunder.
Speaker 1: Maybe the best head of hair, maybe better hair than
Speaker 1: Bob Biaco Wow an air to the throne. See, because
Speaker 1: here's the thing about Manny da the diac here's the
Speaker 1: thing about Manny Diaz. Bob Diaco didn't use this degree
Speaker 1: of product in his hair, right.
Speaker 2: Do you think that's the performance enhancing No, I'm saying
Speaker 2: sometimes it reveals your flaws.
Speaker 1: You put a little too much product, It clumps together,
Speaker 1: it doesn't look quite as thick. Manny Diaz still puts
Speaker 1: the product on and he's got like a full on
Speaker 1: four layer mane up on top of his head. He's like, Mufasa,
Speaker 1: did you go through a period of time in your
Speaker 1: life where you put a lot of product in your hair,
Speaker 1: like high school, middle school, something like that. You know,
Speaker 1: I did a little in college, and it was totally inadvertent.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize until I was in the workforce that
Speaker 1: I was going a little bit overboard. Little heavy, little
Speaker 1: Paul heavy, little heavy. No, not Polly d That's not
Speaker 1: not that heavy.
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit worried about the amount of product
Speaker 2: he uses in the Miami sun because when you create
Speaker 2: a helmet effect like that, Yeah, yeah, it can keep
Speaker 2: the steam in and then you start to drench.
Speaker 1: And it's unfortunate. He's from there. He is from there.
Speaker 1: He's from there, and he saw that his dad was
Speaker 1: the literal mayor of Miami in the early two thousands.
Speaker 1: This is like welcome home Scott Frost on steroids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll hear more about that in an upcoming show. But
Speaker 1: he did go to Florida State. Yeah, he went to
Speaker 1: Florida State. But he's from Mia. I think he knows
Speaker 1: how to handle himself in the hot, hot sun of
Speaker 1: South Beach. Next question, I want to talk about Florida State.
Speaker 1: He mentioned them briefly there with Manny Diaz. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so Florida State's offense kind of a mess last year?
Speaker 1: Am I right? M HM one and thirteenth in points
Speaker 1: per game, one hundred and tenth in yards per play.
Speaker 1: There was already after one year some chatter that Willie
Speaker 1: tagger could be on the hot seat after that performance
Speaker 1: five and seven didn't make a Bowl. Do you have confidence,
Speaker 1: Daniel that the offseason moves Willie Taggarts made are the
Speaker 1: right ones for Florida State leading to a more productive
Speaker 1: second season.
Speaker 2: Is Larry Allen going to play guard or State this year?
Speaker 2: Because if so, now we're talking you would be held
Speaker 2: retired larger state.
Speaker 1: You're talking yes that.
Speaker 2: I mean they can only go up from where they
Speaker 2: were upfront offensively last year. And I don't think Walt
Speaker 2: Bell was a great fit necessarily for Florida State. The
Speaker 2: running game took ahead. Everything took ahead, and it started
Speaker 2: with the offensive line. The injuries, the attrition, the misevaluation
Speaker 2: going in. Everything that could have gone wrong basically went wrong.
Speaker 2: For the offensive line. They bring in Kendall Briles. I
Speaker 2: don't want to be saying that last name all season long.
Speaker 2: Maybe they bring in the Stephenville Texas offense Stephenville High,
Speaker 2: but it's it's an offense that has proven what we
Speaker 2: saw at Baylor, what we saw at FAU and Houston
Speaker 2: last year with de Eric King. It has to go upward.
Speaker 2: I know Willie Taggart has a history with him. Offensively,
Speaker 2: they get in, I think a couple new linemen from transfer,
Speaker 2: a grad transfer, Ryan Fitzpatrick. I believe James Blackman is
Speaker 2: another year older cam Akers should be better and it
Speaker 2: has to be better. It just had they they bring in.
Speaker 2: I think it's Randy Clements who comes with Kendall Briles
Speaker 2: from Houston, new offensive line coach. So yes, the the
Speaker 2: offseason moves have to be improving this Florida State squad. Defensively,
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a little bit trickier.
Speaker 2: The secondary has to be better. This is it's a
Speaker 2: bad sign when there are two position groups going in
Speaker 2: where you say, how could they get worse? How could
Speaker 2: they stay on the same level? How could that possibly
Speaker 2: happen in this universe? They they've sorted things out. I
Speaker 2: think in the secondary, moved safeties and corners back and
Speaker 2: forth to find the right fits. The talent is there
Speaker 2: the offensive line, even if the offensive line has just said,
Speaker 2: well that's their weakness. Even if it's that matter of fact.
Speaker 2: Florida State will be better, even if it's not saying
Speaker 2: it is a void with a depth that is not
Speaker 2: seen by modern science.
Speaker 1: Right right, that's an improvement.
Speaker 2: So the line seven eight wins, seven eight wins feels
Speaker 2: like a really nice step forward.
Speaker 1: The line was dreadful a year ago. It can't get
Speaker 1: any worse. In twelve games, Florida State started nine different
Speaker 1: combinations of linemen. Mm hmm. That was not a recipe
Speaker 1: for an efficient offense. No, not at all, not in
Speaker 1: the least bit. It can only get better along the
Speaker 1: offensive line. It looks like it's going to be James Blackman.
Speaker 1: We'll mention him again. I caught some flack earlier in
Speaker 1: the off season when I said that Alex Hornybrook would
Speaker 1: be a clear upgrade over James Blackman. Sounds like James
Speaker 1: Blackman is going to be your starter to be determined,
Speaker 1: to be determined, sure, I mean basically, if Kendall Briles
Speaker 1: can figure out a way to get the ball creatively
Speaker 1: to Cam Akers and to Mary and Terry quickly that
Speaker 1: you're already talking about a step forward.
Speaker 2: Defensively, they lose their best pass rusher and Brian Burns.
Speaker 2: I think they sort things out pretty nicely at linebacker,
Speaker 2: and we mentioned the secondary. They've got promising guys in
Speaker 2: the middle. Marvin Wilson, I think was a former If
Speaker 2: he wasn't the number one overall recruit, he was like
Speaker 2: two or three a couple of years ago, and so
Speaker 2: he has potential to have a breakout season. So they
Speaker 2: should be in a pretty good place if they can
Speaker 2: maintain health and come into this season with that full
Speaker 2: reboot mentality.
Speaker 1: It is not the easiest schedule, though. They've got Boise
Speaker 1: State in Florida to bookend their season. The Boise State
Speaker 1: game is going to be really interesting right out of
Speaker 1: the shoot. Week one neutral site game I use neutral
Speaker 1: siting quotes has played in Jacksonville to see what Florida
Speaker 1: State's got right out of the shoot. In between the
Speaker 1: start and finish of the season at Virginia, at Clemson
Speaker 1: home against Miami, there's a Syracuse game just sort of
Speaker 1: hanging out in there, which could also be interesting. So
Speaker 1: I agree with you seven to eight wins. It's certainly
Speaker 1: not where Florida State wants to be longer term, but
Speaker 1: I think you're looking at this, you have to look
Speaker 1: at this from the perspective of is our line going
Speaker 1: to get better? Is our offense going to feel better
Speaker 1: than it did a year ago? How is that secondary
Speaker 1: going to look? If you see noted improvement across the board,
Speaker 1: as a Florida State fan, I would be really encouraged, because,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, Clemson is still a buzzsaw this year.
Speaker 1: You want to have a good season, want to feel
Speaker 1: like it's going in a good direction. You want to
Speaker 1: eventually catch Clemson. He ain't going to catch him in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. No.
Speaker 2: And it's, by the way, Ryan Roberts, not Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 2: All that would be great if Ryan Fitzpatrick was playing
Speaker 2: right tackle, sure for Florida State, be wonderful.
Speaker 1: All right, where are we going next year? Okay? Back
Speaker 1: to the back to the postal? Sure? Okay, Okay.
Speaker 2: This surprised me. Maybe it's just because it's been so
Speaker 2: many months since the season, but last year's best coastal
Speaker 2: quarterback was and please don't look up the rest of them,
Speaker 2: Bryce Perkins Virginia. Yeah, he led the postal in yards
Speaker 2: per attempt, rating, completion percentage. He was the dude, and
Speaker 2: you know, led a surprisingly fun Virginia season that fell
Speaker 2: just short after they lost to pitt I believe in
Speaker 2: a bunch of muck that was like a really ugly
Speaker 2: weather game.
Speaker 1: Does that hold?
Speaker 2: Does Bryce Perkins maintain his position atop the the coastal
Speaker 2: quarterback rankings? And please show your work, tie.
Speaker 1: Please show me like this is a rubric? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the answer is I have the proof. The answer is yes, both, Okay, enthusiastically,
Speaker 1: because I believe it. He was really good last year
Speaker 1: and also simply by process of elimination. If it's not him,
Speaker 1: then who Kendall Briles and James Blackman. Oh other side, right,
Speaker 1: wrong side, Ricky Tricky. I guess you could make a
Speaker 1: case for Ryan Willis, but that's a tough sell. We'll
Speaker 1: get into Virginia Tech here, Yeah, a little bit. Perkins
Speaker 1: was one of only two players last year with more
Speaker 1: than twenty four hundred passing guards and eight hundred rushing guards.
Speaker 1: The other guy won the Heisman Trophy and was drafted
Speaker 1: number one overall into the NFL. Right, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: Bryce Perkins is Kyler Murray, but would I take him
Speaker 1: over to Cosey Perry or Kenny Pickett or Sam how
Speaker 1: of course they would of course, Sam how sorry, Yeah, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: Virginia last year seven to five. They shut out South
Speaker 1: Carolina in the Bowl Game. I know I've told the
Speaker 1: story before about Broncomenen Hall, but he was one of
Speaker 1: my favorite interviews that we've ever done on this show.
Speaker 1: The question then.
Speaker 2: Always takes as a coach talking about pizza and Ty
Speaker 2: and I are submitting it was pizza and it was
Speaker 2: his son's names.
Speaker 1: Remember has great great son names. Yeah. But the question
Speaker 1: then was how is he going to acclimate to a
Speaker 1: place like Virginia where he doesn't have a ton of familiarity,
Speaker 1: or didn't have a ton of familiarity, didn't have the
Speaker 1: recruiting inroads that everyone thought he needed. R How is
Speaker 1: he going to adapt? And of course all that stuff helps, right,
Speaker 1: But what's becoming clear now is that Bronco just knows
Speaker 1: what he's doing. Maybe he's just a good coach. He's
Speaker 1: just a good coach. Right. Yeah, they've improved each of
Speaker 1: his first three seasons in Charlottesville. It stands to reason
Speaker 1: that they're going to improve yet again because there's a
Speaker 1: lot coming back. I think a lot of twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: comes down to whether the offense can create big plays
Speaker 1: and whether the defense can stop big plays. That was
Speaker 1: a thorn in their side on both fronts from a
Speaker 1: year ago. But eight starters back on defense, a really
Speaker 1: good secondary. They're at Notre Dame, They're at Miami right
Speaker 1: in the middle, right in the media part of that season.
Speaker 1: But you look at this Virginia team and I think
Speaker 1: there is a ton of reason to be opt to
Speaker 1: mystic here for them to take another step forward another
Speaker 1: year under Bryce Perkins, Bronco menden Hall, a lot back
Speaker 1: on defense. I am very optimistic about the who's in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad to hear it, because Virginia was hanging
Speaker 2: around in a very strange way last year where I
Speaker 2: think if they had beaten Pit they were either going
Speaker 2: to clinch the Coastal or would clinch the Coastal sure,
Speaker 2: and just just hanging around the musical chairs or sliding
Speaker 2: out one by one was like, oh hey, hi, Virginia,
Speaker 2: And it would have been wild if they won the
Speaker 2: Coastal and the basketball team wins the national Championship in
Speaker 2: the same year, probably could have gotten some some decent
Speaker 2: cash on that.
Speaker 1: The thing is, though you look at Virginia and it's
Speaker 1: been a while since his program was notable. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: really has so to see them bubble up the way
Speaker 1: they have now under Bronco mended Hall. There is definitely
Speaker 1: a tendency among fans to look at them and not
Speaker 1: take them seriously, like it's some sort of flash in
Speaker 1: the pan. And maybe they maybe they are are the
Speaker 1: beneficiary of a weak ACC. Virginia was good, they were
Speaker 1: legitimately good last year. They're gonna be legitimately good again
Speaker 1: this year. And I'm excited to see what they can
Speaker 1: do because Bryce Perkins, as I said, best quarterback in
Speaker 1: that side of the ACC.
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Speaker 2: shout out the Belmont all great in Charlottesville.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm excited about Virginia this year. All right,
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Speaker 1: ACC question, Daniel, Yeah, let's talk about Louisville. Did you
Speaker 1: read any of the coverage from ACC Media Day No?
Speaker 1: I definitely didn't. Oh, actually, no, I take that back.
Speaker 1: I read a little bit. Yes, Scott Saderfield, new coach
Speaker 1: at Louisville. Louisville. He said that players weren't previously allowed
Speaker 1: to walk into coaches offices. Yeah, Louisville. Which that does
Speaker 1: not seem like it promotes a whole lot of trust
Speaker 1: within the probram right that.
Speaker 2: An actual cardinals with their messages into the windows to
Speaker 2: get any point across.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't think cardinals could be used in a messaging capacity,
Speaker 1: but they can. Mm hmm what else Daniel outside of
Speaker 1: being a little bit more of an open door situation.
Speaker 1: Will Scott Satterfield be doing differently at Louisville? What can
Speaker 1: fans expect that's gonna look different, feel different from what
Speaker 1: they saw under Bobby Patrino.
Speaker 2: I think they will not lose many games by seven
Speaker 2: thousand points. I think that will be a good first stets,
Speaker 2: a good star. Difference is it's going to be culture.
Speaker 2: Initially they're not. They don't have the talent right now.
Speaker 2: They don't have the depth right now. As they switch
Speaker 2: systems a little bit, you know, Bobby Patrino, even though
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson was yes, very much a running quarterback who
Speaker 2: could also throw incredibly well, they're switching systems a bit,
Speaker 2: and they're recruiting more to what they are going to
Speaker 2: try to do offensively, which I think is going to
Speaker 2: be more reedy with the quarterback we saw it at
Speaker 2: app State really succeed. He brings over a number of
Speaker 2: his coaches, He brings back Court Dennison, who was at
Speaker 2: Louisville before now comes back after a year at Oregon
Speaker 2: coaching linebackers. So I think he's the co DC. So culturally,
Speaker 2: I think there is going to be a lot more
Speaker 2: buy in and a lot more players simply liking the
Speaker 2: coaches they play for and the head coach for which
Speaker 2: they play than where they've been these past few years.
Speaker 2: I also think it's going to take a good chunk
Speaker 2: of time to fully get both the culture and talent
Speaker 2: level and depth to a place that Louisville can compete
Speaker 2: just week in and week out in the ACC, just
Speaker 2: because it's not just Bobby Petrino screwing things up at
Speaker 2: the end, it's how do he recruit? How did he evaluate?
Speaker 1: Because everywhere he goes he leaves it kind of a mess,
Speaker 1: which is sort of selling what he actually leaves behind. Short.
Speaker 2: So the good news is app State. As much as
Speaker 2: you have fought the Mountaineers on this, they've been a really,
Speaker 2: really good program in the Sun Belt, maybe not beating Miami.
Speaker 2: I mean when they put thirty eight on Penn State
Speaker 2: came back and almost won that game last year in
Speaker 2: Happy Valley.
Speaker 1: That sound right? Sure?
Speaker 2: So they looked app State last year like at the
Speaker 2: very least pretty good Big ten team, right, Yeah?
Speaker 1: I would agree.
Speaker 2: Their defense, Their defense was excellent, especially against the pass,
Speaker 2: seems helpful in the ACC if they can keep that going.
Speaker 2: The offense was very good, especially on the ground, so
Speaker 2: there are things to like about this year's squad. Des Fitzpatrick,
Speaker 2: the receivers are pretty strong. They're trying to figure out
Speaker 2: what they're going to do at quarterback. Your guy Puma
Speaker 2: Pass is probably in the lead to get that job
Speaker 2: once again, but Malie Cunningham offers more of an athletic
Speaker 2: perspective if they're going to look to run a little
Speaker 2: bit more this year. I know he brought a quarterback
Speaker 2: commit in from who's committed to app State to Louisville,
Speaker 2: So if they're truly horrendous once again with a little
Speaker 2: bit of promise, maybe he starts playing by the end
Speaker 2: of the By the end of the year. It's a
Speaker 2: rough schedule, so that's, you know, kind of the same
Speaker 2: they have Notre Dame. They go to Florida State, Clemson,
Speaker 2: I think they're at Miami, at NC State, and they
Speaker 2: finish at Kentucky. So it's going to be a tough go.
Speaker 2: But even if they go three and nine, four and eight,
Speaker 2: two and ten, whatever they whatever they do, the big
Speaker 2: difference is going to be the effort, the buy in,
Speaker 2: the attitude and if they happen to find themselves in
Speaker 2: a sixteen thirteen game, maybe that effort, attitude, buy in,
Speaker 2: holds on or comes back whatever. Maybe they tip a
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty game because the players seem to care
Speaker 2: a lot more for four full quarters. So that's the
Speaker 2: big difference no matter what the final record is.
Speaker 1: And hopefully they play some better damn defense, huh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that'd be nice. Last year Louliville on our show is
Speaker 1: a punchline love defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we said what Bobby Patrino bought a yacht betting
Speaker 2: against himself.
Speaker 1: You know he could have Loulville went two and the
Speaker 1: defense was atrocious. Defense at app State has been one
Speaker 1: of Saderfield's calling cards, in addition to running a pretty
Speaker 1: run heavy system on offense, really good defensive coach, and
Speaker 1: I think if you're a Woulsville fan, you'll take that
Speaker 1: right now. I don't know if you measure success in
Speaker 1: terms of wins and losses in year one. I think
Speaker 1: you just hope for a new foundation, yeah, that you
Speaker 1: can build upon in the future. That would be fourth
Speaker 1: a good start.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say fourth defensive coordinator now in four
Speaker 2: years for those upper classmen and it's.
Speaker 1: Not Brian Van Gorder, which is an improvement, not BVG.
Speaker 2: Peter Sermon not great, but third and Grantham was good
Speaker 2: for them. I'd stand by that forever and ever.
Speaker 1: So we'll see. I am excited about Scott Saderfield. I
Speaker 1: know you were excited when he was hired. I thought
Speaker 1: that was a sneaky good hire. Of course, Jeff Brohm
Speaker 1: was the name that was more closely tied to this opening.
Speaker 1: But Scott Saderfield coming over from app State sneaky good hire,
Speaker 1: a solid higher. He's going to build this program into
Speaker 1: I think, something that's a lot more sustainable than under
Speaker 1: the old model.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the big thing is going to be from the administration.
Speaker 2: I think they're all on the same page that they're
Speaker 2: breaking this down to the studs and rebuilding. They can't
Speaker 2: expect to win nine games next year. That's just you
Speaker 2: can't speed up this kind of rebuild when it's sunk
Speaker 2: to the depths that it did last year.
Speaker 1: All right, Dan, where we going next year? All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about let's talk about Mack Brown. Oh boyout that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So North Carolina not as bad. I love this, not
Speaker 2: as bad as their record indicates. Yeah, they were. They
Speaker 2: had chances to win games and they didn't win it.
Speaker 2: Well that's not great, yeah right, But they were not
Speaker 2: They weren't Loville. They were not truly heinous at college
Speaker 2: football last year. So to you, if they're going to
Speaker 2: scratch and claw and improve to threatening Bowl eligibility this year,
Speaker 2: you know, five games late November, you know a couple left,
Speaker 2: five wins. Excuse me, what will be the reason why
Speaker 2: they are scratching and pawing at the door of bowl eligibility.
Speaker 1: Okay, interesting because they were in a lot of those games.
Speaker 1: They were in a lot of those games. There were
Speaker 1: opportunities to win six seven games. The elephant in the
Speaker 1: room is that they've got a new old coach. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's Mac Brown. I think I saw what twenty
Speaker 1: two years since he was last there. He is the
Speaker 1: front man for this operation. He's already doing the whole
Speaker 1: charm offensive thing, which I made draft for my fantasy
Speaker 1: things roster. But if if North Carolina is gonna paw
Speaker 1: at Bowl eligibility, I don't think it's because Mac Brown.
Speaker 1: I think it's because of Phil Longo. I think it's
Speaker 1: because of Jay Bateman. Their offensive and defensive coordinators now
Speaker 1: at Chapel Hill, Phil Longo. He needs to rekindle some
Speaker 1: of the magic that he had running the offense at
Speaker 1: Ole Miss. He's going to have to do it with
Speaker 1: resumably Sam Howell, who I think is the odds on
Speaker 1: favorite to be starter, and he's going to have to
Speaker 1: do it with a personnel group that might be better
Speaker 1: suited for the run even though he wants to pass it.
Speaker 1: So there's an interesting conflict there. But you know, there
Speaker 1: is some experience out wide. If he can find something
Speaker 1: that works, if he can use space and tempo to
Speaker 1: his advantage, which we know he wants to do, then
Speaker 1: UNC could at least be somewhat serviceable on offense, but
Speaker 1: that's a big if. And then on the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball, they need to get better. Everyone knows
Speaker 1: that Jay Bateman comes in from Army. He's got this
Speaker 1: reputation for being an innovator, very innovative, right, He's going
Speaker 1: to need to be real innovative because opponents have literally
Speaker 1: no reason to try and throw against these guys. Their
Speaker 1: run defense looks like it's going to be super porous.
Speaker 1: He needs to somehow force the issue, make teams throw
Speaker 1: into the teeth of that secondary because it actually should
Speaker 1: be pretty good. Hm. So I think that's what needs
Speaker 1: to happen. We need to have Phil long Goo rekindling
Speaker 1: some of that old miss magic. We need to have
Speaker 1: Jay Bateman finding some way to force teams to throw.
Speaker 1: It is a tough draw for Mac Brown in your one.
Speaker 1: It's not easy out of the shoot. South Carolina and
Speaker 1: Miami Wake, Apstate, Clemson all in September. Five wins would
Speaker 1: be an absolute revelation.
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, and scratching up all eligibility seems distant.
Speaker 1: I think that's out of the equation entirely. But if
Speaker 1: they can just look like they're building something in a
Speaker 1: better direction, that to me would be a huge improvement.
Speaker 1: I think he can do it. I know this formula
Speaker 1: for bringing back the old coach hasn't always been that fruitful,
Speaker 1: but I like mac Brown. I think he can still recruit.
Speaker 1: I just I need to see that everyone is rowing
Speaker 1: in the same direction and building towards something more.
Speaker 2: A couple of fun things for me about this North
Speaker 2: Carolina team. Well, first of all, you've penciled Sam howel
Speaker 2: And as the starter, the true freshman blue chip quarterback.
Speaker 1: Maybe that happens. I mean, nobody really has that much
Speaker 1: experience at quarterback. No, and why is that?
Speaker 2: Because Chaz Sarat Sarratt Surrat is a linebacker. That's right,
Speaker 2: he is Joel Landing, maybe hopefully for North Carolina. I
Speaker 2: always love the linebacker from quarterback, not the reverse Maryland.
Speaker 2: But I like that storyline. I like that perhaps we
Speaker 2: see a true freshman quarterback, if not to start the
Speaker 2: season is probably pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: Dan, this is the worst quarterback situation in all the
Speaker 1: ACC right here, unless Sawls, unless he's really good, but yeah,
Speaker 1: without any basis, or Jase Ruter or whoever, Yeah, without
Speaker 1: any basis. Otherwise, right, if I'm looking across all fourteen teams,
Speaker 1: I say North Carolina has has the worst situation in
Speaker 1: the ACC. So there is certainly room to grow there.
Speaker 1: He could be really good, but we won't know what
Speaker 1: Phil Long has to work with until we see him
Speaker 1: out there. The other thing is the push pull, the
Speaker 1: alley ooping that we've talked about in years pass of
Speaker 1: past Phil Ango at offensive coordinator, playing with pace, wide
Speaker 1: open offense. Jay Bateman's used to not to say he
Speaker 1: can't succeed at North Carolina, but he's used to coaching
Speaker 1: a defense on a team whose offense possesses the hell
Speaker 1: out of the ball in Army, and he did a
Speaker 1: pretty good job for Army. If you actually break it
Speaker 1: down for pace, he was sort of below average a
Speaker 1: chunk of the time there. I'm curious to see what
Speaker 1: that change looks like for him in that defense, because
Speaker 1: the stress of an offense moving quickly and scoring, or
Speaker 1: moving quickly and going three and out on the defense
Speaker 1: and getting back on the field, especially when you can't
Speaker 1: stop the run you're not particularly deep anywhere, can be
Speaker 1: pretty extreme. So that push pull alley oop in a
Speaker 1: not so good way. You've seen alley oops go wrong.
Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: At a basketball school like North Carolina, but that's going
Speaker 2: to be a challenge how they marry systems on both
Speaker 2: sides of the ball.
Speaker 1: Just two wins last year, mcbrown taking back over. I
Speaker 1: wish him well. Certainly he is doing his best to
Speaker 1: put a very positive spin on this situation. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna be the long term answer. The guy's sixty seven,
Speaker 1: so he's trying to build something, get it started on
Speaker 1: the right course, presumably then to hand it off to
Speaker 1: somebody else who can take it from there, but Phil
Speaker 1: long Ago, Jay Bateman. A lot rests on their shoulders
Speaker 1: and what they're able to mold with this unit.
Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen, two wins, although I think they had
Speaker 2: a game canceled being canceled. Game was canceled, so two
Speaker 2: to nine they would not have beaten US enough, but
Speaker 2: they had I mean cal Virginia Tech, Syracuse I think
Speaker 2: was doubler triple overtime Duke, NC State. These were all
Speaker 2: winnablel games, which is not necessarily a great thing. But
Speaker 2: also they're not Louisville. We're losing by fifty, so I
Speaker 2: think there's some hope that there is a good amount
Speaker 2: of buy in from the players that even if they're losing,
Speaker 2: they're playing hard. You know that the NC State game
Speaker 2: goes to overtime and they're a two to eight team
Speaker 2: at that point, so they're playing hard in a rivalry game.
Speaker 2: I think that's an encouraging thing for North Carolina as
Speaker 2: they move forward, and I think mac Brown's going to
Speaker 2: recruit pretty well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I don't know about what.
Speaker 2: The long term coaching prognosis is, but I think they
Speaker 2: get in some blue chips in a pretty good region
Speaker 2: to recruit.
Speaker 1: Agree. I agree? Okay, Uh, Daniel hit me. Are you
Speaker 1: familiar with a book, Oh the Places You'll Go?
Speaker 2: Not only am I familiar, I've read it to my
Speaker 2: son multiple times and love that he he has tried
Speaker 2: to eat that book.
Speaker 1: I love that book, and I know maybe it's cliche.
Speaker 1: I got it as a gift, I think from mom
Speaker 1: h after I graduated high school. I've got it here
Speaker 1: in my bookshelf, in the studio, constant reminder. And I'm
Speaker 1: reminded of a passage that doctor Seuss wrote about something
Speaker 1: called the waiting place. Okay, waiting for the fish to bite,
Speaker 1: or waiting for wind to fly a kite, or waiting
Speaker 1: around for Friday night, or waiting perhaps for their uncle Jake,
Speaker 1: or a pot to boil, or a better break, or
Speaker 1: a string of pearls or a pair of pants, or
Speaker 1: a wig with curls or another chance. Everyone is just waiting.
Speaker 1: So my question to you is, Dan, m hm, what
Speaker 1: must NC State do to finally escape the waiting place?
Speaker 2: So does the waiting place mean they're pretty good in
Speaker 2: a vision? They probably won't win for a long, long, long,
Speaker 2: long long time because Dabo Sweeney exists.
Speaker 1: I think that's right. Last year they go nine and three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's good. It's good. It is good.
Speaker 2: Nine and three is good. They had precisely one indefensible loss.
Speaker 2: They scored like twenty points against wake Forest lost, but
Speaker 2: they got murdered by Clemson and they lost a shootout
Speaker 2: to Syracuse, both of whom they lost to on the road.
Speaker 2: Those are both okay. I can't be angry at NC State.
Speaker 1: For those results.
Speaker 2: They should be a little bit more competitive against Clemson
Speaker 2: after the past couple of years where they were. But
Speaker 2: they beat their rival, they murdered Louisville, They comfortably beat
Speaker 2: Florida State, they beat it decent enough Virginia team, I
Speaker 2: think they had what was I think the West Virginia
Speaker 2: game was canceled, and their schedule wasn't particularly difficult, and
Speaker 2: they looked pretty atrocious against Texas A and M. But
Speaker 2: what's wrong with being nine and three in the ACC
Speaker 2: pretty consistently nine to three, I ask you. So you're
Speaker 2: saying that they've already escaped the waiting place.
Speaker 1: I think so.
Speaker 2: I think they could be a six and six program
Speaker 2: with too much neglect at certain places. But I think
Speaker 2: they've recruited smartly. You know, he's hired really well. And
Speaker 2: now Elaiyah Eli Drinkwitz is onto app State, the offensive
Speaker 2: coordinator who had a good deal of success in Raleigh.
Speaker 2: Heard great things about the town of Raleigh by the way,
Speaker 2: home to Chip Patterson and Will Brinson. Matt McKay is
Speaker 2: the probable starter, sort of a tall, lean red shirt sophomore.
Speaker 2: Bam Knight is a promising name at running back, sort
Speaker 2: of an explosive potential guy. A lot of the defenses
Speaker 2: back this is. It's one of those good news bad news.
Speaker 1: Great.
Speaker 2: They they're familiar, they're experienced. They were real bad against
Speaker 2: the past last year. They did not get pressure. The
Speaker 2: secondary was kind of a nightmare. I guess they tightened
Speaker 2: up in the red zone, which is fine. Schedule's fine
Speaker 2: as well. If Clemson Syracuse, North Carolina at home, they're
Speaker 2: at West Virginia at Florida State. But I don't see
Speaker 2: even without Ryan Finley, I don't see a huge step back.
Speaker 2: There's any talented enough places.
Speaker 1: But hold on, Yeah, they're not just without Ryan Finley.
Speaker 1: They're without Reggie Gilaspie. They're without yeah, Kelvin Harmon, without
Speaker 1: Jakobe Myers, Tyler Jones, Trone Prescott, Garrett Bradbury, A ton
Speaker 1: of guys here that are walking out that door. Defense
Speaker 1: should be pretty good, but remains they were good against
Speaker 1: the run remains to be seen to me. How they're
Speaker 1: going to fare against this schedule, which I agree with
Speaker 1: you isn't totally daunting on its face, but the road
Speaker 1: trips aren't the best. And I see a bunch of
Speaker 1: one possession games in there. That's sort of the recurring
Speaker 1: theme as you look across the ACC.
Speaker 2: So there are two and a half teams where it's
Speaker 2: totally defensible that they lose to me, some combination of
Speaker 2: West Virginia, Florida State, Clemson. Those are all oh in Syracuse,
Speaker 2: those are all somewhat defensible losses. But I think they
Speaker 2: can beat Syracuse at home. I think they can beat
Speaker 2: Florida State on the road after what they did to
Speaker 2: him last year. West Virginia has a first year head
Speaker 2: coach North Carolina, the rival first year head coach Georgia
Speaker 2: Tech on the road, yeer head coach Louisville at home
Speaker 2: a week after Clemson first year head coach rebuilding project
Speaker 2: going to Wake. It's not pleasant, but it's not you know,
Speaker 2: going to the Tokyo to home at Boston College and
Speaker 2: whatever the hell Boston College is trying to do offensively,
Speaker 2: If NC State is a team that's always good enough
Speaker 2: to win most of the games, if not all of
Speaker 2: the games, they should maybe this is a manning theory
Speaker 2: with Ryan Finley. Okay, I just I feel much better
Speaker 2: about the continuity of what Dave Dorn has done in
Speaker 2: Raleigh than a lot of the teams on their schedule.
Speaker 1: That's fair. Where are we going next? All right, diy.
Speaker 2: My next question to you is an important one. What
Speaker 2: do you think about Indo cheet?
Speaker 1: No? We did that, right, we do.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about and I hate this, but let's
Speaker 2: talk about Virginia Tech because I had such a good
Speaker 2: time in Blacksburg and they are I don't want to
Speaker 2: say quietly because that's disrespectful. People pay attention to Virginia Tech,
Speaker 2: but they've gotten worse by a game in the ACC
Speaker 2: each year of Justin Tho and Tay and don't let
Speaker 2: it get lost that now mac Brown who pronounced his
Speaker 2: name like that, and Justin Flentey are in the same division.
Speaker 1: They are.
Speaker 2: If the trend continues, of getting worse by a game
Speaker 2: each year in the ACC. They go four and four
Speaker 2: last year, so they would potentially go three and five
Speaker 2: this year in the ACC. What's the difference for them
Speaker 2: between going three and five and getting back to five
Speaker 2: and three as they did in flent Day's oooh went
Speaker 2: Day's first year.
Speaker 1: The difference is twofold. First off, can a brother get
Speaker 1: some stability at quarterback? Please? Oh my god? Please? Daniel okay?
Speaker 1: Josh sumfortable? Josh Jackson snapped the leg last year. That
Speaker 1: had an impact. Yes, Ryan Willis came in. He was
Speaker 1: the fourth highest rated passer in the conference. He got
Speaker 1: good experience. He's back this year. He's got a good arm.
Speaker 1: He's got good receiving targets out wide at tight end.
Speaker 1: That should help the offense should be better the defense.
Speaker 1: The defense has to be better. Dan got it for
Speaker 1: so long. This has been the calling card for Virginia
Speaker 1: Tech and specifically Bud Foster and the lunch pail defense.
Speaker 1: Right last year, herb straight is heartbroken about. That has
Speaker 1: to be. Last season Tech gave up fifteen more points
Speaker 1: per game than it did in twenty seventeen fifteen. It's
Speaker 1: like two touchdowns fifteen. Yeah, it has to get better,
Speaker 1: has to get better. The season last year was underwhelming
Speaker 1: if you're a Tech fan. They finished if you count
Speaker 1: the bull loss to Cincinnati under five hundred, for the
Speaker 1: first time since nineteen ninety two. That is not a
Speaker 1: good look for Justin Fuente. But what I like about
Speaker 1: this team this year, why I think they get better
Speaker 1: is a lot of returning production. Doesn't mean everything, but
Speaker 1: there's a fair amount of continuity now coming back even
Speaker 1: despite the turnover that they've had via transfers and the
Speaker 1: injuries they've had to deal with in the past. They're
Speaker 1: eleventh in returning production this season. And while it could
Speaker 1: go either way for Virginia Tech this year, they're tough
Speaker 1: to predict. I think Justin Fauente still has what it takes.
Speaker 1: He hasn't been bad, he just hasn't been good enough.
Speaker 1: This revolving door hopefully ends in twenty nineteen. They finally
Speaker 1: can build on something. So I am optimistic about the
Speaker 1: Hokies road.
Speaker 2: Schedule mixed because they do have Miami and Notre Dame
Speaker 2: on the road, but otherwise it's okay. They miss Clemson,
Speaker 2: always always great. I believe they miss Florida state as well.
Speaker 2: So that's great.
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 2: Man, you'd like to see it before believing it, with
Speaker 2: how this offense has looked has looked and really how
Speaker 2: the defense looked last year. So I'm hopeful that they
Speaker 2: are at least five hundred.
Speaker 1: In the ACC. They have what O you again? When
Speaker 1: that game? Please? Oky? That was the game last year
Speaker 1: Josh Jackson broke his leg and remember Virginia Tech lost
Speaker 1: that game. Right.
Speaker 2: They have Rhode Islands, they have Furman there. They should
Speaker 2: be able to pad enough. They have Wake at home,
Speaker 2: they have North Carolina at home. They should be a
Speaker 2: bowl team. They should probably get to seven games. This
Speaker 2: is not a terrible, terrible schedule. You know that Miami
Speaker 2: and Notre Dame road trips aside. So I'm rooting for
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech to have a comeback year.
Speaker 1: Ryan Willis was not bad last year. No, he's fine.
Speaker 1: It was not bad. He's a sneaky choice for one
Speaker 1: of the better quarterbacks in the ACC. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's an indictment of the ACC
Speaker 2: or a compliment, but yes.
Speaker 1: I'm intending it as a compliment. Got for Ryan Willis.
Speaker 1: Twenty four touchdowns, nine interceptions last year. And above average arm.
Speaker 1: A good player, a good prospect. I think he has
Speaker 1: what it takes. He's got targets out wide, and that
Speaker 1: tight end it's there. It's there. Maybe not to the
Speaker 1: extent that and your tech fans want, but I think
Speaker 1: we're going to see a big jump forward in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: Look at you, Sunshine pumping Hoky Daniel. Yeah, Steve Dazio
Speaker 1: speaks to a bunch of guys being dudes. I can
Speaker 1: we also have the dude remix. We're gonna have to
Speaker 1: play that one over and over when we talk about
Speaker 1: Boston College this year.
Speaker 2: If anybody, if anybody from Boston College is listening, and
Speaker 2: you want that drop for first downs or when BC
Speaker 2: has third down on defense and you're trying to get
Speaker 2: everybody pumped, we can do that.
Speaker 1: Let us know.
Speaker 2: Just let us know.
Speaker 1: We got you. CLIVERB at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2: Steve Dazio. He has won exactly seven games in five
Speaker 2: of his six seasons at BC. Each year a couple
Speaker 2: names that bubble up. We have this m but are
Speaker 2: we going to see any proof in twenty nineteen that
Speaker 2: this is a program that's actually improving, striving to win
Speaker 2: more than seven games?
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't really see it.
Speaker 2: It's it's not because they're not talented, it's not because
Speaker 2: they don't have a good defense. I think it's all offense.
Speaker 2: I think it's all a dull headedness about what BC's
Speaker 2: offense should be, and it's we got a control the
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. We've got to run power, we got
Speaker 2: a wind scream in the trenches, and Boston College is
Speaker 2: not really going to have consistently the talent up front
Speaker 2: to do so, and to have a quarterback who can
Speaker 2: take advantage in play action. I think Boston College is
Speaker 2: a place you have to be a lot more creative
Speaker 2: and think about running a unique system. We don't have
Speaker 2: to run the option, but you have to open things up.
Speaker 2: You have to say, Okay, we're gonna find a bunch
Speaker 2: of like super fast five eight dudes who are going
Speaker 2: to be too short for Penn State in the northeast
Speaker 2: or Syracuse, but let's figure out.
Speaker 1: Something to do with them. And Boston College is let's
Speaker 1: just run off taracole.
Speaker 2: And they have a new offensive coordinator. It's former Butch Jones,
Speaker 2: guy who was awesome at at Central Michigan. Mike Pajakian.
Speaker 2: He was okay at Cincinnati. I imagine Tennessee fans are
Speaker 2: not a huge fan of his. What Tennessee offense looked
Speaker 2: like early on in Butch Jones' career there, But man,
Speaker 2: the offenses have ranged from like average to horrid. Sometimes
Speaker 2: they're kind of bad, which is fine. This year they'll
Speaker 2: have a new offensive line, but I'm not terribly worried.
Speaker 2: You've got two offensive line coaches because of Adazio also
Speaker 2: serving in that role.
Speaker 1: We want to turnover up front, though Dan turnover up front.
Speaker 1: I thought Anthony Brown.
Speaker 2: If the argument is that Bryce Perkins isn't the second
Speaker 2: best quarterback the ACC, it might be Anthony Brown. He
Speaker 2: got pretty good. Kobe White's pretty good out wide. AJ
Speaker 2: Dillon has stud tendencies, which is what they said about
Speaker 2: you in high school time.
Speaker 1: They did.
Speaker 2: But they use him in such a way that he's
Speaker 2: getting three yards and falling forward. So I don't think
Speaker 2: it's fully his fault. I think it's more of a
Speaker 2: limitation by the system. It'll be a new look defense.
Speaker 2: They promoted their new defensive coordinator. The lineup front on
Speaker 2: defense is also almost entirely new. I think they're a
Speaker 2: six and six team, I think getting anything above seven wins,
Speaker 2: which is where they were last year, I think they
Speaker 2: just give themselves a ceiling.
Speaker 1: And so, yeah, they were seven and five last year.
Speaker 1: They played you'll remember those glorious thirty two plays in
Speaker 1: the first respondible which got canceled because of the lightning.
Speaker 1: That's seven and five right on the number. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I think they get marginally worse this year, and I
Speaker 1: think it's due to that defensive turnover that you just address.
Speaker 1: Not just worried about that, Okay, I'm worried about it
Speaker 1: because we've got turnover at defensive end the entire secondary
Speaker 1: and just as a whole. The way that this program
Speaker 1: has operated is they've really relied upon that defense to
Speaker 1: pick up for the offense because the offense has never
Speaker 1: been yeah, never been something that you can feel confident in.
Speaker 1: But now if the defense is gonna get worse, I
Speaker 1: think it makes Boston College marginally worse as well. So
Speaker 1: six and they also five and seven feels about right
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: They lose hamp Chievers, who was a great ballhawk for
Speaker 2: them at corner they were, and why I think it's
Speaker 2: the offense rather than the defense is can you can
Speaker 2: get effort. I think these guys are gonna get effort.
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna get stops. Offensively. They were so
Speaker 2: they were so bad on third down, just staying ahead
Speaker 2: of the chains, just keeping drives, going to keep If
Speaker 2: they're going to rely on their defense, give them some resk, guys,
Speaker 2: let's go alley up here. If they're able to improve,
Speaker 2: Like your question asks from last year, it means Mike,
Speaker 2: but Jakian game plans well, keeps them ahead of those
Speaker 2: chains and gets a little bit creative. I just think
Speaker 2: he's going to be hamstrung by Steve Dazio.
Speaker 1: I really do.
Speaker 2: I think they're going to be hamstrung by saying we
Speaker 2: want to control cool. You know, all that voice over
Speaker 2: and over. It's a very good impression.
Speaker 1: You're very good. Thank you.
Speaker 2: They were awful in first halves in winnable games where
Speaker 2: they had to crawl back, they had to rely on
Speaker 2: Anthony Brown. I just they they dig their own grave
Speaker 2: too often for me to think, well, they're going the
Speaker 2: right way. I don't think that at all all.
Speaker 1: Right, where are we going next year?
Speaker 2: By the way, the second half of their schedule they
Speaker 2: could start five to one and still not make a bowl.
Speaker 2: The second half of their schedule is NC State at
Speaker 2: Clemson at Syracuse, Florida State at Notre Dame at.
Speaker 1: Pitt very backloaded.
Speaker 2: Not remember when Kansas started out six to no or
Speaker 2: just Kansas or Baylor six to no and finished six
Speaker 2: and six.
Speaker 1: It could be that kind of year that was bing
Speaker 1: Boston College. It was Baylor.
Speaker 2: Okay, So next question, does a team have a is
Speaker 2: it schedule of death? Group of death? In the World
Speaker 2: Cup it's usually the group of death. Yes, group of death?
Speaker 2: Does somebody have that or does somebody have like a
Speaker 2: can they just stumble into bowl eligibility because of a
Speaker 2: particularly easy schedule?
Speaker 1: So if you're asking about the schedule of death, yeah,
Speaker 1: the answer is Louisville. But we already covered Louisville. And
Speaker 1: I know you, I know you want me to answer
Speaker 1: duke with this, hit me with some Duke, So I
Speaker 1: will stick with that. They open the year with Alabama,
Speaker 1: which is not sem optimal. Not optimal. They don't have
Speaker 1: to play Clemson, which is good, but they do have
Speaker 1: to play Notre Dame. They do have to play Miami
Speaker 1: Syracuse at Virginia. That's tough in a vacuum. That is tough.
Speaker 1: I don't care who you are. Then there's the whole
Speaker 1: thing about them turning over so much on offense. They
Speaker 1: have to navigate that schedule without Daniel Jones, who was
Speaker 1: drafted still astoundingly sixth overall by my giants. Then they've
Speaker 1: got turned over at wide receiver as well. Again in
Speaker 1: a vacuum. You look at what that typically does to
Speaker 1: numbers and efficiency, and it's a recipe for regression. You
Speaker 1: take those two things, the schedule and the turnover in
Speaker 1: tandem with one another, and that's just a tough look.
Speaker 1: Tough look for twenty nineteen, Duke's been very consistent under
Speaker 1: David Cutcliffe, and that should not be under sold if
Speaker 1: you're a loyal viewer of the ACC network, which of
Speaker 1: course we are. It's worth noting that twenty twenty twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one they look much more promising for the Duke
Speaker 1: Blue Devils. But I think in twenty nineteen we see
Speaker 1: a bit of a step back, just because it's going
Speaker 1: to take a while for them to figure out this offense.
Speaker 1: It's going to take a while for them to do
Speaker 1: so in the face of what looks to be a
Speaker 1: really tough schedule. Can they improve at quarterback? Can they improve? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What is it? Quentin Harris? Quentin Harris looks to be
Speaker 1: the new starting quarterback, very limited experience, he waited his
Speaker 1: turn behind Daniel Jones.
Speaker 2: He's I think Daniel Jones is that good. I don't
Speaker 2: think he's that good either. But can they improve?
Speaker 1: But here's the point. Daniel Jones was there for a while,
Speaker 1: had a lot of good experience, and had an experienced
Speaker 1: wide receiving core to throw to. This year, Duke has
Speaker 1: a new starting quarterback and essentially a new wide receiving corps.
Speaker 1: They may not move the ball at all against Alabama.
Speaker 1: It may take them a while to move the ball
Speaker 1: in general. Can they improve over the long term? Maybe
Speaker 1: this year? I don't think we'll see it.
Speaker 2: There's just too much turnover, right, Yeah, Duka was depending
Speaker 2: on the metric, you care about twelfth or thirteenth out
Speaker 2: of fourteen teams passing the ball, whether it's rating or
Speaker 2: yards per attempt, whatever it was. Forget the Daniel Jones
Speaker 2: comedy of being.
Speaker 1: Taken number six.
Speaker 2: Overall, that's pretty stunning in a down year from a
Speaker 2: David Cutcliff experience quarterback. Sure, oh yeah, the passing offense
Speaker 2: was that disappointing, I guess would be the most accurate word.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: They finished the season well in their bowl game against Temple, obviously,
Speaker 2: but for them to go through their A SEC schedule
Speaker 2: and I know people are beat up, whatever, but it
Speaker 2: was it was a rough watch.
Speaker 1: One other thing here, Yeah, a lot of experience up
Speaker 1: the middle on defense and on the back side of
Speaker 1: the defense. They were banged up. They were young last year.
Speaker 1: They still played pretty well. They got to find a
Speaker 1: way to rush the passer this year though, that was
Speaker 1: that was the issue last year. There isn't a clear solution.
Speaker 1: But I did see our friend Bill Connolly newly with ESPN.
Speaker 1: He's got them projected as the thirty eighth best defense
Speaker 1: according to his smp plus. And you know, that's a
Speaker 1: significant talking point because in neither football nor basketball do
Speaker 1: we look at Duke and say, hey, they played pretty
Speaker 1: good defense.
Speaker 2: Right, Thirty eighth overall in defense would be pretty good
Speaker 2: for Duke. If they were wearing a couple of years
Speaker 2: ago with Jim Knowles, they were.
Speaker 1: They were, they were. They've been pretty consistent again across
Speaker 1: the board. So if they can get that level of
Speaker 1: production from their defense. It papers over some of the
Speaker 1: issues that I think they're gonna have on offense. Duke
Speaker 1: is still gonna be fine. I just I see some
Speaker 1: regression because of the turnover, particularly at quarterback and wide receiver.
Speaker 2: They have a co defensive coordinator. I know nothing about him,
Speaker 2: but I'm looking at their their coaching staff right now.
Speaker 2: He his name is Matt Gary Garyery Gary.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's g U E R R I
Speaker 1: E r I. Okay, Okay. He graduated college in twenty eleven.
Speaker 1: Whoa uh okay, Doke.
Speaker 2: So he's thirty thirty maybe so, I I has nothing
Speaker 2: to do with whether or not I think Duke will
Speaker 2: be good or bad on defense.
Speaker 1: I am just stunned. I am still just feel old,
Speaker 1: is what you're saying.
Speaker 2: I just feel very And he looks nineteen. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: looks like he is about to serve you food at
Speaker 2: Peta Pitt. Did you have Peta Pitt in State College?
Speaker 1: We did have a Peta But I think every college
Speaker 1: town into pet Pitt. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I feel okay about Duke in the long term.
Speaker 2: But this, I mean, the schedule is rough, It's tough
Speaker 2: s still is not great. So yeah, hopefully they can
Speaker 2: get better through the air at least.
Speaker 1: My final question for you about the acc Fatlantic, it's
Speaker 1: about Dave Clawson. Dan Okay, Dave Clawson newly extended at
Speaker 1: wake Forest through I think twenty twenty six. Congratulations to him. Great.
Speaker 1: He said that it's taken him five years to get
Speaker 1: wake Forest back to a point of being a quote
Speaker 1: normal program, m M normals relative. What does that mean? Always?
Speaker 1: I think it means better depth. I know it means
Speaker 1: better facilities. That's been one area of emphasis on the
Speaker 1: field for him. It has equated to three straight winning
Speaker 1: seasons or winning records, if you want to be particular,
Speaker 1: three straight Bowl wins. It's sort of been a slow
Speaker 1: burn of constantly improving in the margins for wake Forest.
Speaker 1: How far off are we from a true breakout season
Speaker 1: where they finished a year with like nine wins or
Speaker 1: something crazy.
Speaker 2: Tid Remember when the Wolford wagon was rolling at wake Forest. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the breakout year. Okay, it happens. I think normal
Speaker 2: in not even wake Forest case. But if that word
Speaker 2: is being used, the only thing I can think it
Speaker 2: means is not a nightmare. It's above a nightmare. That's
Speaker 2: all I think, Like, Yeah, things are operating. We have
Speaker 2: people working in various departments. We have chairs, we have
Speaker 2: a practice schedule, we have water for the players after practice.
Speaker 2: Somebody vacuums the locker room.
Speaker 1: Like I think.
Speaker 2: Thing, They're just operating as they should and they're recruiting
Speaker 2: on the level that they should for not necessarily a
Speaker 2: top tier ACC team, but a respectable Bowl eligible ACC team.
Speaker 1: That's normal. That's not a nightmare.
Speaker 2: The only way I could see Wake Forest getting to
Speaker 2: nine wins is if whatever polluted the minds of Louisville
Speaker 2: players last year pollutes like six teams this year in
Speaker 2: the ACC. That or like Trevor Lawrence T Higgins, Travis
Speaker 2: Etn and Justin Ross are like, why don't we just
Speaker 2: transfer to wake and be legends, Why don't we just
Speaker 2: do it, guys, let's get to Winnie Salem. Outside of that,
Speaker 2: normal is great for Wake Forest. Getting to a bowl
Speaker 2: game is great. Having two capable quarterbacks and Jamie Newman
Speaker 2: teenage heart throb sounding name and Sam Hartman is wonderful
Speaker 2: having you know, depth of positions, even though I think
Speaker 2: their defense is going to be kind of a nightmare.
Speaker 2: This year, especially in the middle. They're a team that
Speaker 2: they play quickly. They're coached well. They take talent that's
Speaker 2: probably four or five win team talent and get to
Speaker 2: six or seven. Wake is in a great place. Go Deeks,
Speaker 2: normal is great.
Speaker 1: They're in there.
Speaker 2: They're sailing right now. Stop being selfish and asking for
Speaker 2: nine wins from my beautiful demon deacons.
Speaker 1: I like Wake Forest, I do. Yeah. I like the
Speaker 1: job that Dave Clausin's done. I'm curious to see how
Speaker 1: they replace the production of Greg Dortsch, one of my
Speaker 1: favorite names. Torched by the doors, you know, all timer
Speaker 1: a good got a good laugh out of that. One
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five targets, eight touchdowns over a thousand
Speaker 1: yards walking out the door. They gotta find a solution,
Speaker 1: got to find a target out wide. And I do
Speaker 1: think though you called attention to the defense, I think
Speaker 1: they'll defend the run pretty well. Okay, they didn't have
Speaker 1: nearly enough of a pass rush. Pass last year was
Speaker 1: me last year? Yeah, so I think they got to
Speaker 1: cure the pass rush. But I think they'll be good
Speaker 1: enough against the run. And sure it might be a
Speaker 1: bit greedy asking for nine wins, but the question needed
Speaker 1: to be asked. It is a program that has consistently
Speaker 1: gotten better. He's gotten them to normal. The next logical
Speaker 1: question is can he take them above normal? So we'll see.
Speaker 1: Let me hit you with this.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to happen, and it might
Speaker 2: end in August. My question, and it's any sort of
Speaker 2: relevance tied to it. Utah State new coach Gary Anderson,
Speaker 2: old coach Rice North Carolina with Mack Brown Elon at
Speaker 2: Boston College, Louisville, Okay, and bye before Louisville. How many
Speaker 2: iterations would it take? For like, if they played the
Speaker 2: season one hundred times, how many of those times does
Speaker 2: Wake start six and oh with that opening nine seventeen
Speaker 2: thirty three, three thirty three times? Yeah, so one in
Speaker 2: three seasons that Wake Forest. If there are three identical universes,
Speaker 2: including the one that we are presumably broadcasting in right now,
Speaker 2: in one of those universes, we're dealing with a top
Speaker 2: twenty Wake Forest come mid October. Yes, whoa, And then
Speaker 2: it should be said Florida State, Etsey State, Virginia Tech
Speaker 2: on the road, Clemson on the road, Duke at Syracuse
Speaker 2: in the Dome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Okay, Wow, I would say it's more
Speaker 1: like eleven out of one hundred. Oh ye of little faith.
Speaker 1: This is a good team. Okay, it's not a bad team.
Speaker 1: Final question.
Speaker 2: I mean they have I mean Jordan Love is very good.
Speaker 2: So that might end before September.
Speaker 1: But okay, final question, Dan, go ahead, all right, do
Speaker 1: I have one more question? You have one more question
Speaker 1: here than we've made it from all of our ACC teams.
Speaker 2: We're already through everything everything. Okay, we're ending with the
Speaker 2: ACC's one true team. That's right, you're Coastal champion Pitt Panthers.
Speaker 2: The pit Panthers seven to five last year regular seats
Speaker 2: seven and five finish murdered in some of their finished
Speaker 2: seven and seven. Yeah, after the lost to Clemson and
Speaker 2: then again in the bowl game.
Speaker 1: Should they lose to Stanford? I believe, yeah, yeah, yeah Stanford.
Speaker 1: You were saying something, let me can I ask my questions?
Speaker 1: I was going to say, what is what is your
Speaker 1: specific question? I have many thoughts on Pitt.
Speaker 2: Okay, so they technically played more games, and I was
Speaker 2: looking at Bill C's numbers where their offensive or defensive
Speaker 2: percentile was like under fifteen percent. So they were playing
Speaker 2: you know, fifteen percent of what they should be capable
Speaker 2: of considering what their performance is. That's that's awful. That's
Speaker 2: atrocious that they were that bad so often on one
Speaker 2: side of the ball. Do you have hope in your
Speaker 2: heart that Pat Nardoozy and Pitt can normalize into I
Speaker 2: don't know, consistently not bad overall. As they know it's
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett is back. They lose two running backs, but
Speaker 2: as they sort of remake their offense, I.
Speaker 1: I have hope, Okay, explain, I don't have confidence. What's
Speaker 1: the difference. The difference is I want it to happen
Speaker 1: versus I don't think it will. Okay, okay, heart verse
Speaker 1: head up front, the O line loses four starters. The
Speaker 1: backfield loses both Quadri Allison and Darren Hall, both of
Speaker 1: whom went over one thousand yards combined for twenty one
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns. Cadre. That's putting a lot of pressure on
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett and to be fair on the new offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator Mark Whipple. Mm hmm. Defensively, there's talent on the
Speaker 1: top line. It gets shallow in a hurry. Voice has
Speaker 1: gone up. Your voice has gone up. I know, I know,
Speaker 1: and I think they're in a lot of close games.
Speaker 1: Is here again recurring theme around the ACC. The margin
Speaker 1: is razor thin here. So what I'm what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: what I think I'm saying is if I am forced
Speaker 1: to pick, if I am forced to put my confidence
Speaker 1: behind any scenario, I'd put more money on it all
Speaker 1: falling apart than on both sides of the ball rising
Speaker 1: up to make this an average team across the board.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah, I think there's greater potential. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful. I'm not rooting against Pitt. I'm not right,
Speaker 1: And I know we've we've had fun with Pitt, and
Speaker 1: we've talked about the offense. People have written in and
Speaker 1: they've they've gotten upset about that. I I have no
Speaker 1: issues with Pitt. I'm rooting for Pitt. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: think the way that this is constructed, especially upfront, especially
Speaker 1: losing the backfield, especially with Kenny Pickett, who I am
Speaker 1: not terribly confident in. I have a greater degree of
Speaker 1: confidence in it all sort of falling apart than all
Speaker 1: that collectively getting better.
Speaker 2: Their final three games of twenty eighteen, Miami on the road,
Speaker 2: Clemson in the ACC Championship game Stanford in the it's Stanford,
Speaker 2: it must be sunball. Two combined touchdowns in those three
Speaker 2: games they end They ended the year not enthusiastically playing
Speaker 2: football on offense. Twenty four to three Miami, forty two
Speaker 2: to ten Clemson fourteen thirteen Stanford. So at least that
Speaker 2: was a game. Kenny Pickett against Clemson through not five,
Speaker 2: not six, not seven, but for eight total yards against
Speaker 2: the one big measuring stick in the conference.
Speaker 1: That worries me. It is a little worrisome that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that worries me.
Speaker 2: Eight yards in a big game. So I know the
Speaker 2: weather was weird, but that's not that's not okay. That
Speaker 2: doesn't fill me with confidence. So I think Pitt is
Speaker 2: going to have.
Speaker 1: Not a great year. But the thing is not feeling
Speaker 1: good about Pitt at all. I'm not either Coastal Champ
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, the Coastal Champ and Pat and Ardozy's just
Speaker 1: so tough to put a finger on. And maybe this
Speaker 1: whole thing with Mark Whipple will work out. Maybe he'll
Speaker 1: find some way to reinvigorate the offense. I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's got a reputation, He's got a good reputation around
Speaker 1: college football. Maybe he can be the guy who breathes
Speaker 1: some new life into the situation now, but they're going
Speaker 1: to have to come up with something in a hurry. Here.
Speaker 1: They really are again a ton of production walking out
Speaker 1: the door, and I'm just not confident that the solutions
Speaker 1: are there. That's where I'm me.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean that's all reasonable. But last year
Speaker 2: Pitt's offense with I think two backs that went over
Speaker 2: a thousand yards, right, yes, and Darren Hall, yes, they
Speaker 2: finished And I know you questioned the science tie you
Speaker 2: are a d analytics truther. They finished eighty fourth in
Speaker 2: the country in points per drive excluding garbage time, with
Speaker 2: maybe the best combination or second best combination of backs
Speaker 2: in the conference they finished eightieth and defensive points per
Speaker 2: drive allowed, winning the Coastal mind you through I mean
Speaker 2: this is also a team that played UCF and Penn State.
Speaker 2: So this was a Penn State team that got it
Speaker 2: together in the second half of that game in UCF,
Speaker 2: which was enormous all season on offense when Mackenzie Milton
Speaker 2: was healthy. Especially, I'm I am worried that pat NARDUCI
Speaker 2: is not that good despite some of the results, despite
Speaker 2: beating Clemson, which now looks like, Wow, what a higher end. Wow,
Speaker 2: Matt Canada is not of somebody with a job. And
Speaker 2: we talked about this on Twitter. It's like fifty eighth,
Speaker 2: eighty fourth, and eighty sixth when Matt Canada is not
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, when he is tenth with Nate Peterman. It's
Speaker 2: such a weird career that pat Nardoozi has had in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be like a four and
Speaker 2: eight year for them.
Speaker 1: All Right, there you go. We've covered all fourteen teams.
Speaker 1: Mm hm in the acc fel good to get this
Speaker 1: one under the belt. A little rusty, I felt very
Speaker 1: good about this show. A little rusty. I feel good
Speaker 1: about the show too. Yeah, feel a little rusty. I'm
Speaker 1: sure there are things that we left out. I hate
Speaker 1: to put out this call because I always get stuff
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Speaker 1: you agreed as well, and.
Speaker 2: Make sure you drink a bunch of water. Make sure
Speaker 2: you drink a bunch of water, not too much water,
Speaker 2: but make sure you stay on top of your hydration.
Speaker 2: Do we have any official predictions for this conference?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: I mean basically, it's just the only thing is who
Speaker 2: does Clemson play? I guess in the championship game?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So who is it? Mister Coastal? Mister Coastal? Huh.
Speaker 1: I'm tempted to say Miami. Okay, I'm very tempted to
Speaker 1: say Miami. For me, it's between Virginia and Miami, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Keynes. I think they are
Speaker 1: in line for a pretty big first year under me. Wows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I don't. I mean, I can't really question that.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's Georgia just eliminating teams. I think
Speaker 2: Duke Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Pitt and probably Virginia.
Speaker 1: Tech are out of it already. I think Virginia Tech.
Speaker 1: Could you can make a case for Virginia Tech? Mm
Speaker 1: I do? I didn't seem to no, I didn't say, well.
Speaker 1: I mean I think they've got continuity and I think
Speaker 1: they can only get better on defense. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: feel better about Virginia Tech than maybe I let on.
Speaker 2: But I've had continuity with my body for thirty six
Speaker 2: years and I still can't dunk.
Speaker 1: It's still not happening. I'm gonna go Miami, Virginia, Virginia
Speaker 1: Tech in that order, at the top three, top three
Speaker 1: of the castle.
Speaker 2: All right, I think I agree. I think it's Miami
Speaker 2: of Virginia. I think I'm gonna where's that game this year?
Speaker 2: I think that'll decide it. Whoever's playing at home. I'm
Speaker 2: just going to award the coastal too.
Speaker 1: Right now? The game is at Miami. The game is
Speaker 1: at Miami.
Speaker 2: All right, give me the cans and the hopefully not
Speaker 2: too much product in Manny Diaz's hair.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, that's it, right in one more time,
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Speaker 1: We will be back next week, talk about a different conference.
Speaker 1: Won't give too much away. I say that because we
Speaker 1: honestly have not figured out which conference we'll be talking
Speaker 1: about a week from tonight.
Speaker 2: We forgot to mention the Patriot League connection that we
Speaker 2: probably oh, right, Louisville.
Speaker 1: Louisville, Louisville. I believe it.
Speaker 2: It's TJ Nole, Yes, TJ Nole is the linebacker. Gosh,
Speaker 2: he's not coming up on Google, so I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm pronouncing it incorrectly. But there is a Colgate linebacker,
Speaker 2: not just a Colgate linebacker, but a I think it
Speaker 2: was FCS All Star All American And let me get
Speaker 2: this Colgate linebacker Louisville.
Speaker 1: I'm so ashamed. Yeah, TJ Hole, not TJ nole. H
Speaker 1: O l L.
Speaker 2: He was Patriot League Defensive Player of the Year. We
Speaker 2: saw him play in Fargo, North Dakota. He is now
Speaker 2: playing for Louisville. So that big stanky Drummond Fife travels
Speaker 2: to fine state of Kentucky in the acc Fatlantic. So
Speaker 2: that's something that's fun.
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