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Speaker 2: talk about college football stupidity with.

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Speaker 1: All of you. Speaking of college football stupidity, Dan, we

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Speaker 1: have made it officially, well sort of, we have made

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Speaker 1: it through the long, cold off season of college football. Yes,

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Speaker 1: a college football since because starting today, right here, right now,

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Speaker 1: we are launching our twenty nineteen preview series. We're starting

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Speaker 1: with the ACC and, as long time listeners will know,

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Speaker 1: over the course of time, we've evolved this format a

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Speaker 1: we're just going to simplify this, yeo. We're going to

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Speaker 1: but that's okay. We want to make sure that we

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Speaker 2: Yes, totally and completely true. The ACC kicks things off

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Speaker 2: for us because it is America's Championship conference'.

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Speaker 1: That is the correct accent in America's.

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Speaker 2: That's what it stands for, America's Championship Conference. So our

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Speaker 1: There are pieces there. They're going to hold their own.

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Speaker 1: It's not doing them any favors. They open at Clemson

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Speaker 2: So by the end of the season they could be

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Speaker 1: I think that's right.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Syracuse Orange. Let's you

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Speaker 2: Eric Dungee was not a great passer. I would go

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Speaker 2: On big games with him, you know what they have.

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Speaker 2: I think both the quarterbacks played against Florida State in

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Speaker 1: They're okay.

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Speaker 2: At receiver, they lost a big piece to transfer, They're okay.

434
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 2: I like mo'neil some at running back. One of my

435
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: bigger questions is what does this offense actually look like?

436
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 2: Because Eric Dungee ran the ball so much. I think

437
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: I saw I was twelve or thirteen non sack carries

438
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: a game. So that's either going to a running back

439
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: or it's going to a running back via screen or

440
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: swing pass, sort of how Washington State uses their running

441
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 2: backs in a more wide open passing offense. I don't

442
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Speaker 2: think Tommy DeVito will be running in the way that

443
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Speaker 2: Eric Dungee did. I like DeVito's arm talent. I like

444
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 2: him as a talent, but to run that system, you

445
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: got to have the bodies, you got to have the

446
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 2: star power. And I think they're fine. They were great

447
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: special teams which affected few position last year. There was

448
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: a lot to like about Syracuse's I think they finished

449
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: nine to three in the regular season. I think they

450
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Speaker 2: take a step back. I think Tommy DeVito is like

451
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: two thirds good and a third kind of rough around

452
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Speaker 2: the edges. So I have here on my little document,

453
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Speaker 2: You have Syracuse, then I have your question and the

454
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: way I interpreted his touchdown Tommy or Tommy Defedo, and

455
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Speaker 2: I'm not.

456
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Speaker 1: Proud of it.

457
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 2: I hope we don't have to call him Tommy Defito,

458
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: but it really worked out quite well with his last name.

459
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 2: So I think they're a step behind. I think he'll

460
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: be fine, but I don't think he's going to be

461
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 2: the gamer that Dungee was necessarily in huge spots. So

462
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 2: I have them going from nine wins to about seven.

463
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: All to say, still good, still dangerous against whoever they play,

464
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 2: especially since Clemson's coming to Western New York. The defensive

465
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: line real nice position to ask. You mentioned this on

466
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 2: the Dude episode. The pass rush should be good. There

467
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 2: are elements that I'm not crazy about, but Syracuse actually

468
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: tightened up really well last year on third downs and

469
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: in the red zone, so situationally and special teams wise,

470
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 2: there's a lot to like about what they showed last

471
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: year carrying forward, so I still think they're a bowl team.

472
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: I still think if they get a couple of breaks

473
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Speaker 2: at the end of games against you know, the ACC

474
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 2: is fine, but it's nothing crazy stacked. They could get

475
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: back to eight wins. I still think they're a tick

476
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 2: worse than they were last year.

477
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Speaker 1: That's fair. You mentioned the line, I'm going to call

478
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: these guys out again, but Alton Robinson, Kendall Coleman, those

479
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: are the names to watch along the line. And Syracuse

480
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: actually has a ton of guys coming back who played

481
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: as freshmen. Yeah, last year. You look at their defensive backfield,

482
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: mostly freshmen, really good, almost surprisingly, so they're pretty much

483
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: all back. Andre Cisco is the guy in the defensive backfield.

484
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: He's a sophomore and he's already stars ballhawk back there.

485
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: Keep your eyes and ears open for that name as

486
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: you're watching ACC football. This year could be interesting against

487
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: some of the competition, most notably Clemson very early on

488
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: in the year. So you know, Syracuse won nine games

489
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: the regular season, they won ten if you count the ball.

490
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: There is another school of thought. Of course, this was

491
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: a breakout year for Dino Babers, and he's got a

492
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Speaker 1: lot to be excited about. There's a I guess more

493
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: negative school of thought around what Syracuse did in twenty eighteen,

494
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: and that is that you should temper the results that

495
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: we saw in the field, given the fact that it

496
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: was sort of a down year in the ACC as

497
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: a whole, you could make that case. But you still

498
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: got to win that last year. Yeah, I still gott

499
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: to win the games in front of you. I like

500
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Speaker 1: Syracuse to win nine again this season. I like where

501
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: they're at. I do. I feel good about what Dino

502
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: is building up there. I like Tommy DeVito. Tommy Defto

503
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 1: might be a bit extreme. If in a gotta DeVito

504
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: is eighty percent of a full Berman, that's at least

505
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: seventy percent. That's such an old reference. Though we span

506
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: generations here on the show. You know that it's true.

507
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: That's true.

508
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 2: So the biggest threats outside of Clemson for Syracuse, if

509
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: I'm guessing, if I'm putting words in your mouth, are

510
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 2: NC State Florida State. Would agree that they're both on

511
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 2: the road or some combination of their October of NC

512
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: State pit Florida State.

513
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Speaker 1: I like Syracuse. I think they finish second in the

514
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Speaker 1: Fan nine attic. Okay, fair enough, Can I ask you

515
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: a question? Please? Boo doo dooo do do Boo doo doo.

516
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: Another team that is certainly worth talking about. In terms

517
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: of changes at the top, It's got to be Miami.

518
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: Caine's baby c Ans former.

519
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: What Mississippi State Louis is an attack Texas Temple ESPN

520
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: coach Manny Diaz. So job number one obviously discovering a

521
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 2: clean burning, renewable source for swag fusion, Yes, swag fusion.

522
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: What is job number two?

523
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 2: If Miami's challenging for the postal with I think a

524
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 2: lot coming back on defense and not so much on offense.

525
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: Job number one is definitely the clean burning swag Yes, always, always, always, always.

526
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 2: Job number two is getting more consistent quarterback play. Because

527
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: last year they were not that far off from having

528
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: a much better season. They could have gotten a little

529
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: bit more at the quarterback spot. It stayed healthy out wide,

530
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: it would have been a much different story. I'm being facetious.

531
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Speaker 2: You get the wow.

532
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: Okay, I think the same holds true at quarterback this year. Now,

533
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: what I like is that Manny Diaz brought over Dan

534
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: Enos as the offensive coordinator and quarterback coach. Opened some

535
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: eyes when he came over from Alabama, but that was

536
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: a really good move. He's been working since he got

537
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: on campus to try and rebuild that quarterback position the

538
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: Canes last year. Listen to this six point one yards

539
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: per attempt. That was one hundred and sixteenth nationally. Almost

540
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: as bad as Kansas, not quite right, too close for comfort,

541
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: point two yards better than Kansas. If you're a betting man,

542
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: if you're looking at the quarterback position this year, I

543
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: still think you look at Nikosey Perry wasn't great, wasn't

544
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: great last year, but showed flashes. He's probably your starter

545
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: on August twenty fourth, in week zero is what we

546
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: call this now, and they square off against Florida. He's

547
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: got the most experience. But don't forget Tate Martel came

548
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: down from Ohio State. He transferred in. He's immediately available.

549
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: Also Jaron Williams, red shirt freshman. He is still in

550
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,239
Speaker 1: the mix as well. If you listen to the way

551
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: Manny Diez tells it, I.

552
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: Don't think Tate Martel is that good. Could well be

553
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: he's going to be starting, but we'll see. So then

554
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: is their confidence from what you can tell in the

555
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: combination of dan Enos and a good amount of skill

556
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: talent albeit raw at Miami, and improvement at quarterback because

557
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: you were very kind, albeit I guess facetious in what

558
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: Miami looked like near the end of the year. Offensively,

559
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: it was back with getting a good yeah, getting a

560
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: good performance from their defense regardless, and still not being

561
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: able to pull out games.

562
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: Is there reason?

563
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: Like obviously, you know, coming out of camp and things

564
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 2: like that and press conferences and media day, But we're like, well,

565
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: let's you know, it's a new year, it's a new

566
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. But it's gonna take somebody better than

567
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: to Cocy Perry, isn't it. I would think so, or

568
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: at least a better version of to Coocy Perry. Yeah,

569
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: And quite frankly, there are just still a bunch of

570
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: unknowns about how these guys are going to look in

571
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: this system. I like the fact, though you mentioned the defense,

572
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: we have to bring that up many. Diaz has done

573
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: a couple of things all right.

574
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: Firstly, he went out and used a transfer portal, maybe

575
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: more so than any other college football coach, to add

576
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: bodies just about every position to build depth. And he

577
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: did so on defense where he's really going to need

578
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: it because they're a little thin. They're good at the

579
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: good starters, yeah, good starters, talented on the top line,

580
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: But a little thin defense is going to be the

581
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: strength of this team. Miami won of just nineteen teams

582
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: last year to allow fewer than twenty points per game.

583
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: They led the nation and tackles for loss, which is

584
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: a staple of many Diaz defense. And then they went

585
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: out and they hired Blake Baker away from Louisiana Tech

586
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: to run the defense, someone who's very like minded, shares

587
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: that same defensive mentality with Manny Diaz. Turnover loock from

588
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen wasn't quite there in twenty eighteen, but we

589
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: still know that this is an aggressive defense. They like

590
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: to take the football away or remember the turnover chain

591
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: thing it gripped the nation two years ago. Didn't quite

592
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: carry over, but this is This is a defense that

593
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 1: likes to get behind the line of scrimmage and affect

594
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: the point of attack. So I think that as a

595
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: bedrock for where Manny wants to take this team in

596
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen is important. There is talent on offense, it's

597
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: just about assembling the pieces, getting better quarterback play. And

598
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: I think we also need to mention the offensive line.

599
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: The offensive line is a bit of a work in progress,

600
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: not exactly sure which direction that's going to go. But

601
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: if they can get better quarterback play, if they can

602
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: figure out that offensive line and feel more confident about it,

603
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: I think twenty nineteen is a successful campaign in year

604
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: one for many das.

605
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: You actually mentioned one more thing that you wanted to

606
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: talk about about Manny Daz.

607
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: You're talking about his hair.

608
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Ty, obviously, if there's anybody who's going to

609
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: talk about a coach's hair on this show, maybe steal

610
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: that thunder.

611
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: Maybe the best head of hair, maybe better hair than

612
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: Bob Biaco Wow an air to the throne. See, because

613
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: here's the thing about Manny da the diac here's the

614
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: thing about Manny Diaz. Bob Diaco didn't use this degree

615
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: of product in his hair, right.

616
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 2: Do you think that's the performance enhancing No, I'm saying

617
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: sometimes it reveals your flaws.

618
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: You put a little too much product, It clumps together,

619
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't look quite as thick. Manny Diaz still puts

620
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: the product on and he's got like a full on

621
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: four layer mane up on top of his head. He's like, Mufasa,

622
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: did you go through a period of time in your

623
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: life where you put a lot of product in your hair,

624
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: like high school, middle school, something like that. You know,

625
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: I did a little in college, and it was totally inadvertent.

626
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: I didn't realize until I was in the workforce that

627
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: I was going a little bit overboard. Little heavy, little

628
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: Paul heavy, little heavy. No, not Polly d That's not

629
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: not that heavy.

630
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit worried about the amount of product

631
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: he uses in the Miami sun because when you create

632
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: a helmet effect like that, Yeah, yeah, it can keep

633
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: the steam in and then you start to drench.

634
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: And it's unfortunate. He's from there. He is from there.

635
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: He's from there, and he saw that his dad was

636
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: the literal mayor of Miami in the early two thousands.

637
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: This is like welcome home Scott Frost on steroids. Yeah,

638
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: you'll hear more about that in an upcoming show. But

639
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: he did go to Florida State. Yeah, he went to

640
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 1: Florida State. But he's from Mia. I think he knows

641
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: how to handle himself in the hot, hot sun of

642
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: South Beach. Next question, I want to talk about Florida State.

643
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 1: He mentioned them briefly there with Manny Diaz. Yeah, okay,

644
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: so Florida State's offense kind of a mess last year?

645
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: Am I right? M HM one and thirteenth in points

646
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: per game, one hundred and tenth in yards per play.

647
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 1: There was already after one year some chatter that Willie

648
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Speaker 1: tagger could be on the hot seat after that performance

649
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: five and seven didn't make a Bowl. Do you have confidence,

650
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: Daniel that the offseason moves Willie Taggarts made are the

651
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: right ones for Florida State leading to a more productive

652
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: second season.

653
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: Is Larry Allen going to play guard or State this year?

654
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: Because if so, now we're talking you would be held

655
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: retired larger state.

656
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: You're talking yes that.

657
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 2: I mean they can only go up from where they

658
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: were upfront offensively last year. And I don't think Walt

659
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: Bell was a great fit necessarily for Florida State. The

660
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: running game took ahead. Everything took ahead, and it started

661
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 2: with the offensive line. The injuries, the attrition, the misevaluation

662
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: going in. Everything that could have gone wrong basically went wrong.

663
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 2: For the offensive line. They bring in Kendall Briles. I

664
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: don't want to be saying that last name all season long.

665
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: Maybe they bring in the Stephenville Texas offense Stephenville High,

666
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: but it's it's an offense that has proven what we

667
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: saw at Baylor, what we saw at FAU and Houston

668
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: last year with de Eric King. It has to go upward.

669
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: I know Willie Taggart has a history with him. Offensively,

670
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: they get in, I think a couple new linemen from transfer,

671
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: a grad transfer, Ryan Fitzpatrick. I believe James Blackman is

672
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: another year older cam Akers should be better and it

673
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: has to be better. It just had they they bring in.

674
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: I think it's Randy Clements who comes with Kendall Briles

675
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: from Houston, new offensive line coach. So yes, the the

676
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: offseason moves have to be improving this Florida State squad. Defensively,

677
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a little bit trickier.

678
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: The secondary has to be better. This is it's a

679
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: bad sign when there are two position groups going in

680
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: where you say, how could they get worse? How could

681
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: they stay on the same level? How could that possibly

682
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: happen in this universe? They they've sorted things out. I

683
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: think in the secondary, moved safeties and corners back and

684
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 2: forth to find the right fits. The talent is there

685
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: the offensive line, even if the offensive line has just said,

686
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: well that's their weakness. Even if it's that matter of fact.

687
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: Florida State will be better, even if it's not saying

688
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: it is a void with a depth that is not

689
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 2: seen by modern science.

690
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: Right right, that's an improvement.

691
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: So the line seven eight wins, seven eight wins feels

692
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: like a really nice step forward.

693
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: The line was dreadful a year ago. It can't get

694
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: any worse. In twelve games, Florida State started nine different

695
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: combinations of linemen. Mm hmm. That was not a recipe

696
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: for an efficient offense. No, not at all, not in

697
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: the least bit. It can only get better along the

698
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: offensive line. It looks like it's going to be James Blackman.

699
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: We'll mention him again. I caught some flack earlier in

700
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: the off season when I said that Alex Hornybrook would

701
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: be a clear upgrade over James Blackman. Sounds like James

702
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: Blackman is going to be your starter to be determined,

703
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: to be determined, sure, I mean basically, if Kendall Briles

704
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: can figure out a way to get the ball creatively

705
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: to Cam Akers and to Mary and Terry quickly that

706
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: you're already talking about a step forward.

707
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: Defensively, they lose their best pass rusher and Brian Burns.

708
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: I think they sort things out pretty nicely at linebacker,

709
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 2: and we mentioned the secondary. They've got promising guys in

710
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: the middle. Marvin Wilson, I think was a former If

711
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: he wasn't the number one overall recruit, he was like

712
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: two or three a couple of years ago, and so

713
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 2: he has potential to have a breakout season. So they

714
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: should be in a pretty good place if they can

715
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: maintain health and come into this season with that full

716
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: reboot mentality.

717
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Speaker 1: It is not the easiest schedule, though. They've got Boise

718
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: State in Florida to bookend their season. The Boise State

719
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: game is going to be really interesting right out of

720
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: the shoot. Week one neutral site game I use neutral

721
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: siting quotes has played in Jacksonville to see what Florida

722
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: State's got right out of the shoot. In between the

723
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: start and finish of the season at Virginia, at Clemson

724
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: home against Miami, there's a Syracuse game just sort of

725
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: hanging out in there, which could also be interesting. So

726
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 1: I agree with you seven to eight wins. It's certainly

727
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: not where Florida State wants to be longer term, but

728
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: I think you're looking at this, you have to look

729
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: at this from the perspective of is our line going

730
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: to get better? Is our offense going to feel better

731
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: than it did a year ago? How is that secondary

732
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: going to look? If you see noted improvement across the board,

733
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: as a Florida State fan, I would be really encouraged, because,

734
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: let's be honest, Clemson is still a buzzsaw this year.

735
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: You want to have a good season, want to feel

736
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: like it's going in a good direction. You want to

737
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: eventually catch Clemson. He ain't going to catch him in

738
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. No.

739
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: And it's, by the way, Ryan Roberts, not Ryan Fitzpatrick.

740
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: All that would be great if Ryan Fitzpatrick was playing

741
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: right tackle, sure for Florida State, be wonderful.

742
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: All right, where are we going next year? Okay? Back

743
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: to the back to the postal? Sure? Okay, Okay.

744
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: This surprised me. Maybe it's just because it's been so

745
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: many months since the season, but last year's best coastal

746
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: quarterback was and please don't look up the rest of them,

747
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 2: Bryce Perkins Virginia. Yeah, he led the postal in yards

748
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: per attempt, rating, completion percentage. He was the dude, and

749
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: you know, led a surprisingly fun Virginia season that fell

750
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: just short after they lost to pitt I believe in

751
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: a bunch of muck that was like a really ugly

752
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 2: weather game.

753
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: Does that hold?

754
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: Does Bryce Perkins maintain his position atop the the coastal

755
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 2: quarterback rankings? And please show your work, tie.

756
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: Please show me like this is a rubric? Yeah, yeah,

757
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: the answer is I have the proof. The answer is yes, both, Okay, enthusiastically,

758
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: because I believe it. He was really good last year

759
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: and also simply by process of elimination. If it's not him,

760
00:40:55,480 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: then who Kendall Briles and James Blackman. Oh other side, right,

761
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: wrong side, Ricky Tricky. I guess you could make a

762
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: case for Ryan Willis, but that's a tough sell. We'll

763
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: get into Virginia Tech here, Yeah, a little bit. Perkins

764
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: was one of only two players last year with more

765
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: than twenty four hundred passing guards and eight hundred rushing guards.

766
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: The other guy won the Heisman Trophy and was drafted

767
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: number one overall into the NFL. Right, I'm not saying

768
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: Bryce Perkins is Kyler Murray, but would I take him

769
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: over to Cosey Perry or Kenny Pickett or Sam how

770
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: of course they would of course, Sam how sorry, Yeah, yeah, Okay,

771
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: Virginia last year seven to five. They shut out South

772
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: Carolina in the Bowl Game. I know I've told the

773
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: story before about Broncomenen Hall, but he was one of

774
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: my favorite interviews that we've ever done on this show.

775
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: The question then.

776
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 2: Always takes as a coach talking about pizza and Ty

777
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: and I are submitting it was pizza and it was

778
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 2: his son's names.

779
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: Remember has great great son names. Yeah. But the question

780
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: then was how is he going to acclimate to a

781
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: place like Virginia where he doesn't have a ton of familiarity,

782
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: or didn't have a ton of familiarity, didn't have the

783
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: recruiting inroads that everyone thought he needed. R How is

784
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: he going to adapt? And of course all that stuff helps, right,

785
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: But what's becoming clear now is that Bronco just knows

786
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: what he's doing. Maybe he's just a good coach. He's

787
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: just a good coach. Right. Yeah, they've improved each of

788
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: his first three seasons in Charlottesville. It stands to reason

789
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: that they're going to improve yet again because there's a

790
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: lot coming back. I think a lot of twenty nineteen

791
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: comes down to whether the offense can create big plays

792
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: and whether the defense can stop big plays. That was

793
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: a thorn in their side on both fronts from a

794
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: year ago. But eight starters back on defense, a really

795
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: good secondary. They're at Notre Dame, They're at Miami right

796
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 1: in the middle, right in the media part of that season.

797
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: But you look at this Virginia team and I think

798
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: there is a ton of reason to be opt to

799
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: mystic here for them to take another step forward another

800
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: year under Bryce Perkins, Bronco menden Hall, a lot back

801
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: on defense. I am very optimistic about the who's in

802
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen.

803
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad to hear it, because Virginia was hanging

804
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: around in a very strange way last year where I

805
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 2: think if they had beaten Pit they were either going

806
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 2: to clinch the Coastal or would clinch the Coastal sure,

807
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: and just just hanging around the musical chairs or sliding

808
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: out one by one was like, oh hey, hi, Virginia,

809
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: And it would have been wild if they won the

810
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: Coastal and the basketball team wins the national Championship in

811
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: the same year, probably could have gotten some some decent

812
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: cash on that.

813
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: The thing is, though you look at Virginia and it's

814
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: been a while since his program was notable. Yeah, it

815
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: really has so to see them bubble up the way

816
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: they have now under Bronco mended Hall. There is definitely

817
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: a tendency among fans to look at them and not

818
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: take them seriously, like it's some sort of flash in

819
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: the pan. And maybe they maybe they are are the

820
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: beneficiary of a weak ACC. Virginia was good, they were

821
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: legitimately good last year. They're gonna be legitimately good again

822
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: this year. And I'm excited to see what they can

823
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: do because Bryce Perkins, as I said, best quarterback in

824
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 1: that side of the ACC.

825
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: Barnunn shout out to Continental Divide, shout out Little John's,

826
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 2: shout out the Belmont all great in Charlottesville.

827
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Speaker 1: That's all I'm excited about Virginia this year. All right,

828
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: better do better, do better. D Daniel, I have a

829
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: question for you. I'm ready. Tell me about your experience

830
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: with Indochino. Oh, that is a loaded question. You went

831
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: to get fitted, did you not? I did go to

832
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: get fitted.

833
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: There is a place to get fitted in Brooklyn, So

834
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 2: I made the track to get fitted and it was incredible.

835
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: Really, it was so cool.

836
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 2: It I was going in thinking, like you know when

837
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: you get a suit altered and or you go to

838
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: a tailor and they just sort of measure you, like

839
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: tip to tip of your head.

840
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: They put you up on that little weird podium, right,

841
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: it's kind.

842
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: Of a weird podium, and it takes a few minutes

843
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: and you're just like, all right, this is your waist,

844
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: this is your this is the distance around your chest,

845
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: this is your neck size, whatever, and then you just

846
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: move on and go grocery shopping whatever. Not with Indo Gino,

847
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: not with going to a showroom to get fitted for

848
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: a custom se.

849
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: So is it like getting fitted for the batsuit? What

850
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: exactly is this?

851
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 2: Like, I think more specific than a batsuit. It was

852
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: the we've mentioned I think with a mattress company, we've

853
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: done spots for the natural topography or geometry.

854
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were.

855
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: It was busting out pro tractors from my natural geometry.

856
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 2: It was. It was around all leg types and different

857
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: cuts of suit types that fit my body type and

858
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: around my chest and my waist and head and every

859
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 2: like everything. And I was turning to the side and

860
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: there were different angles. It took the better part of

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00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: forty five minut Okay, very important question. Then I promise

862
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: we'll get to the actual meat of this ad. Yes,

863
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: did they use lasers?

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Speaker 1: ACC question, Daniel, Yeah, let's talk about Louisville. Did you

892
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: read any of the coverage from ACC Media Day No?

893
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: I definitely didn't. Oh, actually, no, I take that back.

894
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: I read a little bit. Yes, Scott Saderfield, new coach

895
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: at Louisville. Louisville. He said that players weren't previously allowed

896
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: to walk into coaches offices. Yeah, Louisville. Which that does

897
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: not seem like it promotes a whole lot of trust

898
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: within the probram right that.

899
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: An actual cardinals with their messages into the windows to

900
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: get any point across.

901
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 1: You wouldn't think cardinals could be used in a messaging capacity,

902
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: but they can. Mm hmm what else Daniel outside of

903
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: being a little bit more of an open door situation.

904
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: Will Scott Satterfield be doing differently at Louisville? What can

905
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: fans expect that's gonna look different, feel different from what

906
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: they saw under Bobby Patrino.

907
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: I think they will not lose many games by seven

908
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 2: thousand points. I think that will be a good first stets,

909
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: a good star. Difference is it's going to be culture.

910
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 2: Initially they're not. They don't have the talent right now.

911
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: They don't have the depth right now. As they switch

912
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: systems a little bit, you know, Bobby Patrino, even though

913
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson was yes, very much a running quarterback who

914
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: could also throw incredibly well, they're switching systems a bit,

915
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: and they're recruiting more to what they are going to

916
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 2: try to do offensively, which I think is going to

917
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 2: be more reedy with the quarterback we saw it at

918
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 2: app State really succeed. He brings over a number of

919
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: his coaches, He brings back Court Dennison, who was at

920
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 2: Louisville before now comes back after a year at Oregon

921
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: coaching linebackers. So I think he's the co DC. So culturally,

922
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: I think there is going to be a lot more

923
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 2: buy in and a lot more players simply liking the

924
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 2: coaches they play for and the head coach for which

925
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 2: they play than where they've been these past few years.

926
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 2: I also think it's going to take a good chunk

927
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 2: of time to fully get both the culture and talent

928
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: level and depth to a place that Louisville can compete

929
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 2: just week in and week out in the ACC, just

930
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: because it's not just Bobby Petrino screwing things up at

931
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: the end, it's how do he recruit? How did he evaluate?

932
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: Because everywhere he goes he leaves it kind of a mess,

933
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: which is sort of selling what he actually leaves behind. Short.

934
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 2: So the good news is app State. As much as

935
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 2: you have fought the Mountaineers on this, they've been a really,

936
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 2: really good program in the Sun Belt, maybe not beating Miami.

937
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 2: I mean when they put thirty eight on Penn State

938
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: came back and almost won that game last year in

939
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 2: Happy Valley.

940
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: That sound right? Sure?

941
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: So they looked app State last year like at the

942
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: very least pretty good Big ten team, right, Yeah?

943
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: I would agree.

944
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: Their defense, Their defense was excellent, especially against the pass,

945
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: seems helpful in the ACC if they can keep that going.

946
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 2: The offense was very good, especially on the ground, so

947
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 2: there are things to like about this year's squad. Des Fitzpatrick,

948
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: the receivers are pretty strong. They're trying to figure out

949
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 2: what they're going to do at quarterback. Your guy Puma

950
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: Pass is probably in the lead to get that job

951
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 2: once again, but Malie Cunningham offers more of an athletic

952
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: perspective if they're going to look to run a little

953
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: bit more this year. I know he brought a quarterback

954
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: commit in from who's committed to app State to Louisville,

955
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: So if they're truly horrendous once again with a little

956
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: bit of promise, maybe he starts playing by the end

957
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: of the By the end of the year. It's a

958
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 2: rough schedule, so that's, you know, kind of the same

959
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: they have Notre Dame. They go to Florida State, Clemson,

960
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 2: I think they're at Miami, at NC State, and they

961
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: finish at Kentucky. So it's going to be a tough go.

962
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 2: But even if they go three and nine, four and eight,

963
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 2: two and ten, whatever they whatever they do, the big

964
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 2: difference is going to be the effort, the buy in,

965
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 2: the attitude and if they happen to find themselves in

966
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: a sixteen thirteen game, maybe that effort, attitude, buy in,

967
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 2: holds on or comes back whatever. Maybe they tip a

968
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty game because the players seem to care

969
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 2: a lot more for four full quarters. So that's the

970
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: big difference no matter what the final record is.

971
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: And hopefully they play some better damn defense, huh, yeah,

972
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: that'd be nice. Last year Louliville on our show is

973
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: a punchline love defense.

974
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, we said what Bobby Patrino bought a yacht betting

975
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: against himself.

976
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: You know he could have Loulville went two and the

977
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: defense was atrocious. Defense at app State has been one

978
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 1: of Saderfield's calling cards, in addition to running a pretty

979
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: run heavy system on offense, really good defensive coach, and

980
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: I think if you're a Woulsville fan, you'll take that

981
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: right now. I don't know if you measure success in

982
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 1: terms of wins and losses in year one. I think

983
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: you just hope for a new foundation, yeah, that you

984
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: can build upon in the future. That would be fourth

985
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: a good start.

986
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 2: I was gonna say fourth defensive coordinator now in four

987
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: years for those upper classmen and it's.

988
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: Not Brian Van Gorder, which is an improvement, not BVG.

989
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: Peter Sermon not great, but third and Grantham was good

990
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 2: for them. I'd stand by that forever and ever.

991
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: So we'll see. I am excited about Scott Saderfield. I

992
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 1: know you were excited when he was hired. I thought

993
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: that was a sneaky good hire. Of course, Jeff Brohm

994
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: was the name that was more closely tied to this opening.

995
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: But Scott Saderfield coming over from app State sneaky good hire,

996
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: a solid higher. He's going to build this program into

997
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: I think, something that's a lot more sustainable than under

998
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 1: the old model.

999
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the big thing is going to be from the administration.

1000
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 2: I think they're all on the same page that they're

1001
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 2: breaking this down to the studs and rebuilding. They can't

1002
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: expect to win nine games next year. That's just you

1003
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,959
Speaker 2: can't speed up this kind of rebuild when it's sunk

1004
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: to the depths that it did last year.

1005
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: All right, Dan, where we going next year? All right,

1006
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: let's talk about let's talk about Mack Brown. Oh boyout that. Yeah.

1007
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: So North Carolina not as bad. I love this, not

1008
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 2: as bad as their record indicates. Yeah, they were. They

1009
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 2: had chances to win games and they didn't win it.

1010
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: Well that's not great, yeah right, But they were not

1011
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 2: They weren't Loville. They were not truly heinous at college

1012
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 2: football last year. So to you, if they're going to

1013
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: scratch and claw and improve to threatening Bowl eligibility this year,

1014
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 2: you know, five games late November, you know a couple left,

1015
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: five wins. Excuse me, what will be the reason why

1016
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 2: they are scratching and pawing at the door of bowl eligibility.

1017
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: Okay, interesting because they were in a lot of those games.

1018
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: They were in a lot of those games. There were

1019
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: opportunities to win six seven games. The elephant in the

1020
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: room is that they've got a new old coach. Yeah,

1021
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: and that's Mac Brown. I think I saw what twenty

1022
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: two years since he was last there. He is the

1023
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: front man for this operation. He's already doing the whole

1024
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: charm offensive thing, which I made draft for my fantasy

1025
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:41,479
Speaker 1: things roster. But if if North Carolina is gonna paw

1026
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 1: at Bowl eligibility, I don't think it's because Mac Brown.

1027
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: I think it's because of Phil Longo. I think it's

1028
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: because of Jay Bateman. Their offensive and defensive coordinators now

1029
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: at Chapel Hill, Phil Longo. He needs to rekindle some

1030
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: of the magic that he had running the offense at

1031
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: Ole Miss. He's going to have to do it with

1032
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: resumably Sam Howell, who I think is the odds on

1033
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: favorite to be starter, and he's going to have to

1034
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: do it with a personnel group that might be better

1035
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: suited for the run even though he wants to pass it.

1036
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: So there's an interesting conflict there. But you know, there

1037
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: is some experience out wide. If he can find something

1038
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: that works, if he can use space and tempo to

1039
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 1: his advantage, which we know he wants to do, then

1040
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: UNC could at least be somewhat serviceable on offense, but

1041
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: that's a big if. And then on the defensive side

1042
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: of the ball, they need to get better. Everyone knows

1043
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: that Jay Bateman comes in from Army. He's got this

1044
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: reputation for being an innovator, very innovative, right, He's going

1045
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: to need to be real innovative because opponents have literally

1046
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: no reason to try and throw against these guys. Their

1047
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: run defense looks like it's going to be super porous.

1048
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: He needs to somehow force the issue, make teams throw

1049
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: into the teeth of that secondary because it actually should

1050
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: be pretty good. Hm. So I think that's what needs

1051
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: to happen. We need to have Phil long Goo rekindling

1052
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: some of that old miss magic. We need to have

1053
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: Jay Bateman finding some way to force teams to throw.

1054
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: It is a tough draw for Mac Brown in your one.

1055
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: It's not easy out of the shoot. South Carolina and

1056
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: Miami Wake, Apstate, Clemson all in September. Five wins would

1057
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: be an absolute revelation.

1058
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, and scratching up all eligibility seems distant.

1059
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: I think that's out of the equation entirely. But if

1060
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: they can just look like they're building something in a

1061
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 1: better direction, that to me would be a huge improvement.

1062
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: I think he can do it. I know this formula

1063
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: for bringing back the old coach hasn't always been that fruitful,

1064
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: but I like mac Brown. I think he can still recruit.

1065
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: I just I need to see that everyone is rowing

1066
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: in the same direction and building towards something more.

1067
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: A couple of fun things for me about this North

1068
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,919
Speaker 2: Carolina team. Well, first of all, you've penciled Sam howel

1069
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 2: And as the starter, the true freshman blue chip quarterback.

1070
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: Maybe that happens. I mean, nobody really has that much

1071
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: experience at quarterback. No, and why is that?

1072
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: Because Chaz Sarat Sarratt Surrat is a linebacker. That's right,

1073
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: he is Joel Landing, maybe hopefully for North Carolina. I

1074
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 2: always love the linebacker from quarterback, not the reverse Maryland.

1075
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: But I like that storyline. I like that perhaps we

1076
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: see a true freshman quarterback, if not to start the

1077
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: season is probably pretty quickly.

1078
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: Dan, this is the worst quarterback situation in all the

1079
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: ACC right here, unless Sawls, unless he's really good, but yeah,

1080
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: without any basis, or Jase Ruter or whoever, Yeah, without

1081
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: any basis. Otherwise, right, if I'm looking across all fourteen teams,

1082
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: I say North Carolina has has the worst situation in

1083
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: the ACC. So there is certainly room to grow there.

1084
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: He could be really good, but we won't know what

1085
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: Phil Long has to work with until we see him

1086
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: out there. The other thing is the push pull, the

1087
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: alley ooping that we've talked about in years pass of

1088
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: past Phil Ango at offensive coordinator, playing with pace, wide

1089
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: open offense. Jay Bateman's used to not to say he

1090
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: can't succeed at North Carolina, but he's used to coaching

1091
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: a defense on a team whose offense possesses the hell

1092
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: out of the ball in Army, and he did a

1093
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: pretty good job for Army. If you actually break it

1094
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: down for pace, he was sort of below average a

1095
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: chunk of the time there. I'm curious to see what

1096
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: that change looks like for him in that defense, because

1097
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: the stress of an offense moving quickly and scoring, or

1098
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: moving quickly and going three and out on the defense

1099
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: and getting back on the field, especially when you can't

1100
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: stop the run you're not particularly deep anywhere, can be

1101
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: pretty extreme. So that push pull alley oop in a

1102
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: not so good way. You've seen alley oops go wrong.

1103
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't happen.

1104
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: At a basketball school like North Carolina, but that's going

1105
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 2: to be a challenge how they marry systems on both

1106
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 2: sides of the ball.

1107
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: Just two wins last year, mcbrown taking back over. I

1108
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: wish him well. Certainly he is doing his best to

1109
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: put a very positive spin on this situation. He's not

1110
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: gonna be the long term answer. The guy's sixty seven,

1111
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: so he's trying to build something, get it started on

1112
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: the right course, presumably then to hand it off to

1113
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: somebody else who can take it from there, but Phil

1114
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: long Ago, Jay Bateman. A lot rests on their shoulders

1115
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: and what they're able to mold with this unit.

1116
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen, two wins, although I think they had

1117
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: a game canceled being canceled. Game was canceled, so two

1118
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 2: to nine they would not have beaten US enough, but

1119
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: they had I mean cal Virginia Tech, Syracuse I think

1120
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 2: was doubler triple overtime Duke, NC State. These were all

1121
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 2: winnablel games, which is not necessarily a great thing. But

1122
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 2: also they're not Louisville. We're losing by fifty, so I

1123
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 2: think there's some hope that there is a good amount

1124
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 2: of buy in from the players that even if they're losing,

1125
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 2: they're playing hard. You know that the NC State game

1126
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: goes to overtime and they're a two to eight team

1127
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 2: at that point, so they're playing hard in a rivalry game.

1128
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 2: I think that's an encouraging thing for North Carolina as

1129
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: they move forward, and I think mac Brown's going to

1130
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 2: recruit pretty well.

1131
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I don't know about what.

1132
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 2: The long term coaching prognosis is, but I think they

1133
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 2: get in some blue chips in a pretty good region

1134
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 2: to recruit.

1135
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: Agree. I agree? Okay, Uh, Daniel hit me. Are you

1136
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: familiar with a book, Oh the Places You'll Go?

1137
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 2: Not only am I familiar, I've read it to my

1138
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: son multiple times and love that he he has tried

1139
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: to eat that book.

1140
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: I love that book, and I know maybe it's cliche.

1141
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: I got it as a gift, I think from mom

1142
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: h after I graduated high school. I've got it here

1143
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: in my bookshelf, in the studio, constant reminder. And I'm

1144
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: reminded of a passage that doctor Seuss wrote about something

1145
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: called the waiting place. Okay, waiting for the fish to bite,

1146
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: or waiting for wind to fly a kite, or waiting

1147
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: around for Friday night, or waiting perhaps for their uncle Jake,

1148
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: or a pot to boil, or a better break, or

1149
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: a string of pearls or a pair of pants, or

1150
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: a wig with curls or another chance. Everyone is just waiting.

1151
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: So my question to you is, Dan, m hm, what

1152
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: must NC State do to finally escape the waiting place?

1153
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 2: So does the waiting place mean they're pretty good in

1154
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 2: a vision? They probably won't win for a long, long, long,

1155
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 2: long long time because Dabo Sweeney exists.

1156
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: I think that's right. Last year they go nine and three. Yeah,

1157
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,919
Speaker 1: that's good. It's good. It is good.

1158
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 2: Nine and three is good. They had precisely one indefensible loss.

1159
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 2: They scored like twenty points against wake Forest lost, but

1160
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 2: they got murdered by Clemson and they lost a shootout

1161
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 2: to Syracuse, both of whom they lost to on the road.

1162
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 2: Those are both okay. I can't be angry at NC State.

1163
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: For those results.

1164
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 2: They should be a little bit more competitive against Clemson

1165
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 2: after the past couple of years where they were. But

1166
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 2: they beat their rival, they murdered Louisville, They comfortably beat

1167
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 2: Florida State, they beat it decent enough Virginia team, I

1168
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 2: think they had what was I think the West Virginia

1169
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 2: game was canceled, and their schedule wasn't particularly difficult, and

1170
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 2: they looked pretty atrocious against Texas A and M. But

1171
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 2: what's wrong with being nine and three in the ACC

1172
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: pretty consistently nine to three, I ask you. So you're

1173
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 2: saying that they've already escaped the waiting place.

1174
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: I think so.

1175
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 2: I think they could be a six and six program

1176
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 2: with too much neglect at certain places. But I think

1177
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 2: they've recruited smartly. You know, he's hired really well. And

1178
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 2: now Elaiyah Eli Drinkwitz is onto app State, the offensive

1179
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 2: coordinator who had a good deal of success in Raleigh.

1180
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 2: Heard great things about the town of Raleigh by the way,

1181
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 2: home to Chip Patterson and Will Brinson. Matt McKay is

1182
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 2: the probable starter, sort of a tall, lean red shirt sophomore.

1183
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: Bam Knight is a promising name at running back, sort

1184
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 2: of an explosive potential guy. A lot of the defenses

1185
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 2: back this is. It's one of those good news bad news.

1186
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: Great.

1187
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 2: They they're familiar, they're experienced. They were real bad against

1188
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 2: the past last year. They did not get pressure. The

1189
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 2: secondary was kind of a nightmare. I guess they tightened

1190
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 2: up in the red zone, which is fine. Schedule's fine

1191
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 2: as well. If Clemson Syracuse, North Carolina at home, they're

1192
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 2: at West Virginia at Florida State. But I don't see

1193
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 2: even without Ryan Finley, I don't see a huge step back.

1194
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 2: There's any talented enough places.

1195
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: But hold on, Yeah, they're not just without Ryan Finley.

1196
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: They're without Reggie Gilaspie. They're without yeah, Kelvin Harmon, without

1197
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: Jakobe Myers, Tyler Jones, Trone Prescott, Garrett Bradbury, A ton

1198
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: of guys here that are walking out that door. Defense

1199
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: should be pretty good, but remains they were good against

1200
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: the run remains to be seen to me. How they're

1201
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: going to fare against this schedule, which I agree with

1202
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: you isn't totally daunting on its face, but the road

1203
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: trips aren't the best. And I see a bunch of

1204
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 1: one possession games in there. That's sort of the recurring

1205
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: theme as you look across the ACC.

1206
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 2: So there are two and a half teams where it's

1207
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 2: totally defensible that they lose to me, some combination of

1208
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 2: West Virginia, Florida State, Clemson. Those are all oh in Syracuse,

1209
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 2: those are all somewhat defensible losses. But I think they

1210
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 2: can beat Syracuse at home. I think they can beat

1211
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 2: Florida State on the road after what they did to

1212
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 2: him last year. West Virginia has a first year head

1213
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 2: coach North Carolina, the rival first year head coach Georgia

1214
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 2: Tech on the road, yeer head coach Louisville at home

1215
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 2: a week after Clemson first year head coach rebuilding project

1216
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 2: going to Wake. It's not pleasant, but it's not you know,

1217
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 2: going to the Tokyo to home at Boston College and

1218
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 2: whatever the hell Boston College is trying to do offensively,

1219
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 2: If NC State is a team that's always good enough

1220
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 2: to win most of the games, if not all of

1221
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 2: the games, they should maybe this is a manning theory

1222
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 2: with Ryan Finley. Okay, I just I feel much better

1223
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 2: about the continuity of what Dave Dorn has done in

1224
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 2: Raleigh than a lot of the teams on their schedule.

1225
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: That's fair. Where are we going next? All right, diy.

1226
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 2: My next question to you is an important one. What

1227
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 2: do you think about Indo cheet?

1228
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: No? We did that, right, we do.

1229
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about and I hate this, but let's

1230
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 2: talk about Virginia Tech because I had such a good

1231
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 2: time in Blacksburg and they are I don't want to

1232
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 2: say quietly because that's disrespectful. People pay attention to Virginia Tech,

1233
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 2: but they've gotten worse by a game in the ACC

1234
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 2: each year of Justin Tho and Tay and don't let

1235
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 2: it get lost that now mac Brown who pronounced his

1236
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 2: name like that, and Justin Flentey are in the same division.

1237
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: They are.

1238
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 2: If the trend continues, of getting worse by a game

1239
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 2: each year in the ACC. They go four and four

1240
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 2: last year, so they would potentially go three and five

1241
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 2: this year in the ACC. What's the difference for them

1242
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 2: between going three and five and getting back to five

1243
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 2: and three as they did in flent Day's oooh went

1244
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 2: Day's first year.

1245
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: The difference is twofold. First off, can a brother get

1246
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: some stability at quarterback? Please? Oh my god? Please? Daniel okay?

1247
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: Josh sumfortable? Josh Jackson snapped the leg last year. That

1248
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: had an impact. Yes, Ryan Willis came in. He was

1249
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: the fourth highest rated passer in the conference. He got

1250
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: good experience. He's back this year. He's got a good arm.

1251
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: He's got good receiving targets out wide at tight end.

1252
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: That should help the offense should be better the defense.

1253
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: The defense has to be better. Dan got it for

1254
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: so long. This has been the calling card for Virginia

1255
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: Tech and specifically Bud Foster and the lunch pail defense.

1256
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: Right last year, herb straight is heartbroken about. That has

1257
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: to be. Last season Tech gave up fifteen more points

1258
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: per game than it did in twenty seventeen fifteen. It's

1259
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: like two touchdowns fifteen. Yeah, it has to get better,

1260
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 1: has to get better. The season last year was underwhelming

1261
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 1: if you're a Tech fan. They finished if you count

1262
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: the bull loss to Cincinnati under five hundred, for the

1263
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: first time since nineteen ninety two. That is not a

1264
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 1: good look for Justin Fuente. But what I like about

1265
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,439
Speaker 1: this team this year, why I think they get better

1266
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: is a lot of returning production. Doesn't mean everything, but

1267
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: there's a fair amount of continuity now coming back even

1268
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 1: despite the turnover that they've had via transfers and the

1269
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: injuries they've had to deal with in the past. They're

1270
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: eleventh in returning production this season. And while it could

1271
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 1: go either way for Virginia Tech this year, they're tough

1272
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: to predict. I think Justin Fauente still has what it takes.

1273
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 1: He hasn't been bad, he just hasn't been good enough.

1274
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: This revolving door hopefully ends in twenty nineteen. They finally

1275
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: can build on something. So I am optimistic about the

1276
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: Hokies road.

1277
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 2: Schedule mixed because they do have Miami and Notre Dame

1278
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 2: on the road, but otherwise it's okay. They miss Clemson,

1279
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 2: always always great. I believe they miss Florida state as well.

1280
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 2: So that's great.

1281
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 1: I just.

1282
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 2: Man, you'd like to see it before believing it, with

1283
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 2: how this offense has looked has looked and really how

1284
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 2: the defense looked last year. So I'm hopeful that they

1285
01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 2: are at least five hundred.

1286
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: In the ACC. They have what O you again? When

1287
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 1: that game? Please? Oky? That was the game last year

1288
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: Josh Jackson broke his leg and remember Virginia Tech lost

1289
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 1: that game. Right.

1290
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 2: They have Rhode Islands, they have Furman there. They should

1291
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 2: be able to pad enough. They have Wake at home,

1292
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 2: they have North Carolina at home. They should be a

1293
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 2: bowl team. They should probably get to seven games. This

1294
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 2: is not a terrible, terrible schedule. You know that Miami

1295
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,600
Speaker 2: and Notre Dame road trips aside. So I'm rooting for

1296
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech to have a comeback year.

1297
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: Ryan Willis was not bad last year. No, he's fine.

1298
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: It was not bad. He's a sneaky choice for one

1299
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: of the better quarterbacks in the ACC. Yeah.

1300
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's an indictment of the ACC

1301
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 2: or a compliment, but yes.

1302
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm intending it as a compliment. Got for Ryan Willis.

1303
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 1: Twenty four touchdowns, nine interceptions last year. And above average arm.

1304
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: A good player, a good prospect. I think he has

1305
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 1: what it takes. He's got targets out wide, and that

1306
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: tight end it's there. It's there. Maybe not to the

1307
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 1: extent that and your tech fans want, but I think

1308
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: we're going to see a big jump forward in twenty nineteen.

1309
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 1: Look at you, Sunshine pumping Hoky Daniel. Yeah, Steve Dazio

1310
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: speaks to a bunch of guys being dudes. I can

1311
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: we also have the dude remix. We're gonna have to

1312
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 1: play that one over and over when we talk about

1313
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: Boston College this year.

1314
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 2: If anybody, if anybody from Boston College is listening, and

1315
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 2: you want that drop for first downs or when BC

1316
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 2: has third down on defense and you're trying to get

1317
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 2: everybody pumped, we can do that.

1318
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: Let us know.

1319
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 2: Just let us know.

1320
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 1: We got you. CLIVERB at gmail dot com.

1321
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 2: Steve Dazio. He has won exactly seven games in five

1322
01:10:56,240 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 2: of his six seasons at BC. Each year a couple

1323
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 2: names that bubble up. We have this m but are

1324
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 2: we going to see any proof in twenty nineteen that

1325
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 2: this is a program that's actually improving, striving to win

1326
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 2: more than seven games?

1327
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't really see it.

1328
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 2: It's it's not because they're not talented, it's not because

1329
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 2: they don't have a good defense. I think it's all offense.

1330
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 2: I think it's all a dull headedness about what BC's

1331
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 2: offense should be, and it's we got a control the

1332
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. We've got to run power, we got

1333
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 2: a wind scream in the trenches, and Boston College is

1334
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 2: not really going to have consistently the talent up front

1335
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: to do so, and to have a quarterback who can

1336
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,560
Speaker 2: take advantage in play action. I think Boston College is

1337
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 2: a place you have to be a lot more creative

1338
01:11:56,360 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 2: and think about running a unique system. We don't have

1339
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 2: to run the option, but you have to open things up.

1340
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 2: You have to say, Okay, we're gonna find a bunch

1341
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 2: of like super fast five eight dudes who are going

1342
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 2: to be too short for Penn State in the northeast

1343
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 2: or Syracuse, but let's figure out.

1344
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: Something to do with them. And Boston College is let's

1345
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: just run off taracole.

1346
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 2: And they have a new offensive coordinator. It's former Butch Jones,

1347
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:25,440
Speaker 2: guy who was awesome at at Central Michigan. Mike Pajakian.

1348
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 2: He was okay at Cincinnati. I imagine Tennessee fans are

1349
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 2: not a huge fan of his. What Tennessee offense looked

1350
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 2: like early on in Butch Jones' career there, But man,

1351
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 2: the offenses have ranged from like average to horrid. Sometimes

1352
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 2: they're kind of bad, which is fine. This year they'll

1353
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 2: have a new offensive line, but I'm not terribly worried.

1354
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 2: You've got two offensive line coaches because of Adazio also

1355
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 2: serving in that role.

1356
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: We want to turnover up front, though Dan turnover up front.

1357
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: I thought Anthony Brown.

1358
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 2: If the argument is that Bryce Perkins isn't the second

1359
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 2: best quarterback the ACC, it might be Anthony Brown. He

1360
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 2: got pretty good. Kobe White's pretty good out wide. AJ

1361
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 2: Dillon has stud tendencies, which is what they said about

1362
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 2: you in high school time.

1363
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: They did.

1364
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 2: But they use him in such a way that he's

1365
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 2: getting three yards and falling forward. So I don't think

1366
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 2: it's fully his fault. I think it's more of a

1367
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,839
Speaker 2: limitation by the system. It'll be a new look defense.

1368
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 2: They promoted their new defensive coordinator. The lineup front on

1369
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 2: defense is also almost entirely new. I think they're a

1370
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 2: six and six team, I think getting anything above seven wins,

1371
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 2: which is where they were last year, I think they

1372
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 2: just give themselves a ceiling.

1373
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: And so, yeah, they were seven and five last year.

1374
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 1: They played you'll remember those glorious thirty two plays in

1375
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 1: the first respondible which got canceled because of the lightning.

1376
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 1: That's seven and five right on the number. I'm with you.

1377
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: I think they get marginally worse this year, and I

1378
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 1: think it's due to that defensive turnover that you just address.

1379
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,600
Speaker 1: Not just worried about that, Okay, I'm worried about it

1380
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: because we've got turnover at defensive end the entire secondary

1381
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 1: and just as a whole. The way that this program

1382
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: has operated is they've really relied upon that defense to

1383
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: pick up for the offense because the offense has never

1384
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: been yeah, never been something that you can feel confident in.

1385
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 1: But now if the defense is gonna get worse, I

1386
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: think it makes Boston College marginally worse as well. So

1387
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 1: six and they also five and seven feels about right

1388
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: to me.

1389
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 2: They lose hamp Chievers, who was a great ballhawk for

1390
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 2: them at corner they were, and why I think it's

1391
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 2: the offense rather than the defense is can you can

1392
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 2: get effort. I think these guys are gonna get effort.

1393
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna get stops. Offensively. They were so

1394
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 2: they were so bad on third down, just staying ahead

1395
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 2: of the chains, just keeping drives, going to keep If

1396
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 2: they're going to rely on their defense, give them some resk, guys,

1397
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 2: let's go alley up here. If they're able to improve,

1398
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:57,639
Speaker 2: Like your question asks from last year, it means Mike,

1399
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 2: but Jakian game plans well, keeps them ahead of those

1400
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 2: chains and gets a little bit creative. I just think

1401
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 2: he's going to be hamstrung by Steve Dazio.

1402
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 1: I really do.

1403
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 2: I think they're going to be hamstrung by saying we

1404
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 2: want to control cool. You know, all that voice over

1405
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:14,759
Speaker 2: and over. It's a very good impression.

1406
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 1: You're very good. Thank you.

1407
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 2: They were awful in first halves in winnable games where

1408
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 2: they had to crawl back, they had to rely on

1409
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 2: Anthony Brown. I just they they dig their own grave

1410
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 2: too often for me to think, well, they're going the

1411
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 2: right way. I don't think that at all all.

1412
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: Right, where are we going next year?

1413
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 2: By the way, the second half of their schedule they

1414
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 2: could start five to one and still not make a bowl.

1415
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 2: The second half of their schedule is NC State at

1416
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:43,799
Speaker 2: Clemson at Syracuse, Florida State at Notre Dame at.

1417
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 1: Pitt very backloaded.

1418
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 2: Not remember when Kansas started out six to no or

1419
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 2: just Kansas or Baylor six to no and finished six

1420
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 2: and six.

1421
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 1: It could be that kind of year that was bing

1422
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 1: Boston College. It was Baylor.

1423
01:15:54,640 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 2: Okay, So next question, does a team have a is

1424
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 2: it schedule of death? Group of death? In the World

1425
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 2: Cup it's usually the group of death. Yes, group of death?

1426
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 2: Does somebody have that or does somebody have like a

1427
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 2: can they just stumble into bowl eligibility because of a

1428
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 2: particularly easy schedule?

1429
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: So if you're asking about the schedule of death, yeah,

1430
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: the answer is Louisville. But we already covered Louisville. And

1431
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:22,759
Speaker 1: I know you, I know you want me to answer

1432
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: duke with this, hit me with some Duke, So I

1433
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: will stick with that. They open the year with Alabama,

1434
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: which is not sem optimal. Not optimal. They don't have

1435
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: to play Clemson, which is good, but they do have

1436
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 1: to play Notre Dame. They do have to play Miami

1437
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 1: Syracuse at Virginia. That's tough in a vacuum. That is tough.

1438
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 1: I don't care who you are. Then there's the whole

1439
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 1: thing about them turning over so much on offense. They

1440
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 1: have to navigate that schedule without Daniel Jones, who was

1441
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: drafted still astoundingly sixth overall by my giants. Then they've

1442
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: got turned over at wide receiver as well. Again in

1443
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 1: a vacuum. You look at what that typically does to

1444
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: numbers and efficiency, and it's a recipe for regression. You

1445
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: take those two things, the schedule and the turnover in

1446
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 1: tandem with one another, and that's just a tough look.

1447
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 1: Tough look for twenty nineteen, Duke's been very consistent under

1448
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 1: David Cutcliffe, and that should not be under sold if

1449
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 1: you're a loyal viewer of the ACC network, which of

1450
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: course we are. It's worth noting that twenty twenty twenty

1451
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 1: twenty one they look much more promising for the Duke

1452
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: Blue Devils. But I think in twenty nineteen we see

1453
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: a bit of a step back, just because it's going

1454
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 1: to take a while for them to figure out this offense.

1455
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: It's going to take a while for them to do

1456
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 1: so in the face of what looks to be a

1457
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:50,719
Speaker 1: really tough schedule. Can they improve at quarterback? Can they improve? Yeah?

1458
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: What is it? Quentin Harris? Quentin Harris looks to be

1459
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,640
Speaker 1: the new starting quarterback, very limited experience, he waited his

1460
01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: turn behind Daniel Jones.

1461
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 2: He's I think Daniel Jones is that good. I don't

1462
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,879
Speaker 2: think he's that good either. But can they improve?

1463
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 1: But here's the point. Daniel Jones was there for a while,

1464
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 1: had a lot of good experience, and had an experienced

1465
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 1: wide receiving core to throw to. This year, Duke has

1466
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: a new starting quarterback and essentially a new wide receiving corps.

1467
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 1: They may not move the ball at all against Alabama.

1468
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 1: It may take them a while to move the ball

1469
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: in general. Can they improve over the long term? Maybe

1470
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 1: this year? I don't think we'll see it.

1471
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:35,839
Speaker 2: There's just too much turnover, right, Yeah, Duka was depending

1472
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 2: on the metric, you care about twelfth or thirteenth out

1473
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 2: of fourteen teams passing the ball, whether it's rating or

1474
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 2: yards per attempt, whatever it was. Forget the Daniel Jones

1475
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 2: comedy of being.

1476
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 1: Taken number six.

1477
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 2: Overall, that's pretty stunning in a down year from a

1478
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 2: David Cutcliff experience quarterback. Sure, oh yeah, the passing offense

1479
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 2: was that disappointing, I guess would be the most accurate word.

1480
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: I just I don't know.

1481
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 2: They finished the season well in their bowl game against Temple, obviously,

1482
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,759
Speaker 2: but for them to go through their A SEC schedule

1483
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,560
Speaker 2: and I know people are beat up, whatever, but it

1484
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 2: was it was a rough watch.

1485
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 1: One other thing here, Yeah, a lot of experience up

1486
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 1: the middle on defense and on the back side of

1487
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 1: the defense. They were banged up. They were young last year.

1488
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: They still played pretty well. They got to find a

1489
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 1: way to rush the passer this year though, that was

1490
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 1: that was the issue last year. There isn't a clear solution.

1491
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 1: But I did see our friend Bill Connolly newly with ESPN.

1492
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: He's got them projected as the thirty eighth best defense

1493
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: according to his smp plus. And you know, that's a

1494
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: significant talking point because in neither football nor basketball do

1495
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: we look at Duke and say, hey, they played pretty

1496
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:51,719
Speaker 1: good defense.

1497
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 2: Right, Thirty eighth overall in defense would be pretty good

1498
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 2: for Duke. If they were wearing a couple of years

1499
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 2: ago with Jim Knowles, they were.

1500
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: They were, they were. They've been pretty consistent again across

1501
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 1: the board. So if they can get that level of

1502
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 1: production from their defense. It papers over some of the

1503
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 1: issues that I think they're gonna have on offense. Duke

1504
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 1: is still gonna be fine. I just I see some

1505
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 1: regression because of the turnover, particularly at quarterback and wide receiver.

1506
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 2: They have a co defensive coordinator. I know nothing about him,

1507
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 2: but I'm looking at their their coaching staff right now.

1508
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 2: He his name is Matt Gary Garyery Gary.

1509
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's g U E R R I

1510
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: E r I. Okay, Okay. He graduated college in twenty eleven.

1511
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: Whoa uh okay, Doke.

1512
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 2: So he's thirty thirty maybe so, I I has nothing

1513
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 2: to do with whether or not I think Duke will

1514
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 2: be good or bad on defense.

1515
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 1: I am just stunned. I am still just feel old,

1516
01:20:58,640 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 1: is what you're saying.

1517
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:02,640
Speaker 2: I just feel very And he looks nineteen. Yeah, he

1518
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 2: looks like he is about to serve you food at

1519
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 2: Peta Pitt. Did you have Peta Pitt in State College?

1520
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 1: We did have a Peta But I think every college

1521
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 1: town into pet Pitt. Yeah.

1522
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 2: So I feel okay about Duke in the long term.

1523
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:18,679
Speaker 2: But this, I mean, the schedule is rough, It's tough

1524
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 2: s still is not great. So yeah, hopefully they can

1525
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 2: get better through the air at least.

1526
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: My final question for you about the acc Fatlantic, it's

1527
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: about Dave Clawson. Dan Okay, Dave Clawson newly extended at

1528
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 1: wake Forest through I think twenty twenty six. Congratulations to him. Great.

1529
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 1: He said that it's taken him five years to get

1530
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,799
Speaker 1: wake Forest back to a point of being a quote

1531
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:53,719
Speaker 1: normal program, m M normals relative. What does that mean? Always?

1532
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 1: I think it means better depth. I know it means

1533
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: better facilities. That's been one area of emphasis on the

1534
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 1: field for him. It has equated to three straight winning

1535
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 1: seasons or winning records, if you want to be particular,

1536
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: three straight Bowl wins. It's sort of been a slow

1537
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 1: burn of constantly improving in the margins for wake Forest.

1538
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 1: How far off are we from a true breakout season

1539
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 1: where they finished a year with like nine wins or

1540
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 1: something crazy.

1541
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 2: Tid Remember when the Wolford wagon was rolling at wake Forest. Yeah,

1542
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 2: that's the breakout year. Okay, it happens. I think normal

1543
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 2: in not even wake Forest case. But if that word

1544
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 2: is being used, the only thing I can think it

1545
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 2: means is not a nightmare. It's above a nightmare. That's

1546
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,600
Speaker 2: all I think, Like, Yeah, things are operating. We have

1547
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 2: people working in various departments. We have chairs, we have

1548
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,839
Speaker 2: a practice schedule, we have water for the players after practice.

1549
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 2: Somebody vacuums the locker room.

1550
01:22:59,280 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 1: Like I think.

1551
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 2: Thing, They're just operating as they should and they're recruiting

1552
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 2: on the level that they should for not necessarily a

1553
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 2: top tier ACC team, but a respectable Bowl eligible ACC team.

1554
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,879
Speaker 1: That's normal. That's not a nightmare.

1555
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 2: The only way I could see Wake Forest getting to

1556
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 2: nine wins is if whatever polluted the minds of Louisville

1557
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 2: players last year pollutes like six teams this year in

1558
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 2: the ACC. That or like Trevor Lawrence T Higgins, Travis

1559
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 2: Etn and Justin Ross are like, why don't we just

1560
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 2: transfer to wake and be legends, Why don't we just

1561
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 2: do it, guys, let's get to Winnie Salem. Outside of that,

1562
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 2: normal is great for Wake Forest. Getting to a bowl

1563
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 2: game is great. Having two capable quarterbacks and Jamie Newman

1564
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 2: teenage heart throb sounding name and Sam Hartman is wonderful

1565
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 2: having you know, depth of positions, even though I think

1566
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 2: their defense is going to be kind of a nightmare.

1567
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:05,560
Speaker 2: This year, especially in the middle. They're a team that

1568
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 2: they play quickly. They're coached well. They take talent that's

1569
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 2: probably four or five win team talent and get to

1570
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 2: six or seven. Wake is in a great place. Go Deeks,

1571
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 2: normal is great.

1572
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 1: They're in there.

1573
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 2: They're sailing right now. Stop being selfish and asking for

1574
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 2: nine wins from my beautiful demon deacons.

1575
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: I like Wake Forest, I do. Yeah. I like the

1576
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: job that Dave Clausin's done. I'm curious to see how

1577
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 1: they replace the production of Greg Dortsch, one of my

1578
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: favorite names. Torched by the doors, you know, all timer

1579
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: a good got a good laugh out of that. One

1580
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five targets, eight touchdowns over a thousand

1581
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 1: yards walking out the door. They gotta find a solution,

1582
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 1: got to find a target out wide. And I do

1583
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 1: think though you called attention to the defense, I think

1584
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 1: they'll defend the run pretty well. Okay, they didn't have

1585
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 1: nearly enough of a pass rush. Pass last year was

1586
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 1: me last year? Yeah, so I think they got to

1587
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: cure the pass rush. But I think they'll be good

1588
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 1: enough against the run. And sure it might be a

1589
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 1: bit greedy asking for nine wins, but the question needed

1590
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 1: to be asked. It is a program that has consistently

1591
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 1: gotten better. He's gotten them to normal. The next logical

1592
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 1: question is can he take them above normal? So we'll see.

1593
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 1: Let me hit you with this.

1594
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to happen, and it might

1595
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 2: end in August. My question, and it's any sort of

1596
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 2: relevance tied to it. Utah State new coach Gary Anderson,

1597
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 2: old coach Rice North Carolina with Mack Brown Elon at

1598
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 2: Boston College, Louisville, Okay, and bye before Louisville. How many

1599
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 2: iterations would it take? For like, if they played the

1600
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 2: season one hundred times, how many of those times does

1601
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 2: Wake start six and oh with that opening nine seventeen

1602
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:11,640
Speaker 2: thirty three, three thirty three times? Yeah, so one in

1603
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 2: three seasons that Wake Forest. If there are three identical universes,

1604
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 2: including the one that we are presumably broadcasting in right now,

1605
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 2: in one of those universes, we're dealing with a top

1606
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 2: twenty Wake Forest come mid October. Yes, whoa, And then

1607
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 2: it should be said Florida State, Etsey State, Virginia Tech

1608
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,600
Speaker 2: on the road, Clemson on the road, Duke at Syracuse

1609
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 2: in the Dome.

1610
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Okay, Wow, I would say it's more

1611
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 1: like eleven out of one hundred. Oh ye of little faith.

1612
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 1: This is a good team. Okay, it's not a bad team.

1613
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 1: Final question.

1614
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 2: I mean they have I mean Jordan Love is very good.

1615
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 2: So that might end before September.

1616
01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 1: But okay, final question, Dan, go ahead, all right, do

1617
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 1: I have one more question? You have one more question

1618
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 1: here than we've made it from all of our ACC teams.

1619
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 2: We're already through everything everything. Okay, we're ending with the

1620
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 2: ACC's one true team. That's right, you're Coastal champion Pitt Panthers.

1621
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 2: The pit Panthers seven to five last year regular seats

1622
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 2: seven and five finish murdered in some of their finished

1623
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 2: seven and seven. Yeah, after the lost to Clemson and

1624
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 2: then again in the bowl game.

1625
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: Should they lose to Stanford? I believe, yeah, yeah, yeah Stanford.

1626
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 1: You were saying something, let me can I ask my questions?

1627
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 1: I was going to say, what is what is your

1628
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 1: specific question? I have many thoughts on Pitt.

1629
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 2: Okay, so they technically played more games, and I was

1630
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 2: looking at Bill C's numbers where their offensive or defensive

1631
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 2: percentile was like under fifteen percent. So they were playing

1632
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 2: you know, fifteen percent of what they should be capable

1633
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 2: of considering what their performance is. That's that's awful. That's

1634
01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 2: atrocious that they were that bad so often on one

1635
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,599
Speaker 2: side of the ball. Do you have hope in your

1636
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 2: heart that Pat Nardoozy and Pitt can normalize into I

1637
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 2: don't know, consistently not bad overall. As they know it's

1638
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett is back. They lose two running backs, but

1639
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 2: as they sort of remake their offense, I.

1640
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 1: I have hope, Okay, explain, I don't have confidence. What's

1641
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 1: the difference. The difference is I want it to happen

1642
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: versus I don't think it will. Okay, okay, heart verse

1643
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 1: head up front, the O line loses four starters. The

1644
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 1: backfield loses both Quadri Allison and Darren Hall, both of

1645
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 1: whom went over one thousand yards combined for twenty one

1646
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns. Cadre. That's putting a lot of pressure on

1647
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett and to be fair on the new offensive

1648
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 1: coordinator Mark Whipple. Mm hmm. Defensively, there's talent on the

1649
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 1: top line. It gets shallow in a hurry. Voice has

1650
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:08,600
Speaker 1: gone up. Your voice has gone up. I know, I know,

1651
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 1: and I think they're in a lot of close games.

1652
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 1: Is here again recurring theme around the ACC. The margin

1653
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 1: is razor thin here. So what I'm what I'm saying,

1654
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: what I think I'm saying is if I am forced

1655
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 1: to pick, if I am forced to put my confidence

1656
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 1: behind any scenario, I'd put more money on it all

1657
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 1: falling apart than on both sides of the ball rising

1658
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 1: up to make this an average team across the board.

1659
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah, I think there's greater potential. Yeah,

1660
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful. I'm not rooting against Pitt. I'm not right,

1661
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 1: And I know we've we've had fun with Pitt, and

1662
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:50,680
Speaker 1: we've talked about the offense. People have written in and

1663
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 1: they've they've gotten upset about that. I I have no

1664
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 1: issues with Pitt. I'm rooting for Pitt. Yeah, but I

1665
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 1: think the way that this is constructed, especially upfront, especially

1666
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 1: losing the backfield, especially with Kenny Pickett, who I am

1667
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:07,600
Speaker 1: not terribly confident in. I have a greater degree of

1668
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:11,639
Speaker 1: confidence in it all sort of falling apart than all

1669
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 1: that collectively getting better.

1670
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 2: Their final three games of twenty eighteen, Miami on the road,

1671
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:21,879
Speaker 2: Clemson in the ACC Championship game Stanford in the it's Stanford,

1672
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 2: it must be sunball. Two combined touchdowns in those three

1673
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 2: games they end They ended the year not enthusiastically playing

1674
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 2: football on offense. Twenty four to three Miami, forty two

1675
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 2: to ten Clemson fourteen thirteen Stanford. So at least that

1676
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 2: was a game. Kenny Pickett against Clemson through not five,

1677
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:54,719
Speaker 2: not six, not seven, but for eight total yards against

1678
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:57,719
Speaker 2: the one big measuring stick in the conference.

1679
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 1: That worries me. It is a little worrisome that, Yeah,

1680
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 1: that worries me.

1681
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 2: Eight yards in a big game. So I know the

1682
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,600
Speaker 2: weather was weird, but that's not that's not okay. That

1683
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 2: doesn't fill me with confidence. So I think Pitt is

1684
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 2: going to have.

1685
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 1: Not a great year. But the thing is not feeling

1686
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:18,639
Speaker 1: good about Pitt at all. I'm not either Coastal Champ

1687
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, the Coastal Champ and Pat and Ardozy's just

1688
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,600
Speaker 1: so tough to put a finger on. And maybe this

1689
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 1: whole thing with Mark Whipple will work out. Maybe he'll

1690
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 1: find some way to reinvigorate the offense. I don't know.

1691
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 1: He's got a reputation, He's got a good reputation around

1692
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 1: college football. Maybe he can be the guy who breathes

1693
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 1: some new life into the situation now, but they're going

1694
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 1: to have to come up with something in a hurry. Here.

1695
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 1: They really are again a ton of production walking out

1696
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:47,480
Speaker 1: the door, and I'm just not confident that the solutions

1697
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 1: are there. That's where I'm me.

1698
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean that's all reasonable. But last year

1699
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 2: Pitt's offense with I think two backs that went over

1700
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 2: a thousand yards, right, yes, and Darren Hall, yes, they

1701
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 2: finished And I know you questioned the science tie you

1702
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 2: are a d analytics truther. They finished eighty fourth in

1703
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 2: the country in points per drive excluding garbage time, with

1704
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,679
Speaker 2: maybe the best combination or second best combination of backs

1705
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 2: in the conference they finished eightieth and defensive points per

1706
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 2: drive allowed, winning the Coastal mind you through I mean

1707
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 2: this is also a team that played UCF and Penn State.

1708
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 2: So this was a Penn State team that got it

1709
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 2: together in the second half of that game in UCF,

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01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 2: which was enormous all season on offense when Mackenzie Milton

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01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:40,679
Speaker 2: was healthy. Especially, I'm I am worried that pat NARDUCI

1712
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 2: is not that good despite some of the results, despite

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01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 2: beating Clemson, which now looks like, Wow, what a higher end. Wow,

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01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 2: Matt Canada is not of somebody with a job. And

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01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 2: we talked about this on Twitter. It's like fifty eighth,

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01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 2: eighty fourth, and eighty sixth when Matt Canada is not

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01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, when he is tenth with Nate Peterman. It's

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Speaker 2: such a weird career that pat Nardoozi has had in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be like a four and

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01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 2: eight year for them.

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Speaker 1: All Right, there you go. We've covered all fourteen teams.

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Speaker 1: Mm hm in the acc fel good to get this

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Speaker 1: one under the belt. A little rusty, I felt very

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Speaker 1: good about this show. A little rusty. I feel good

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Speaker 1: about the show too. Yeah, feel a little rusty. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure there are things that we left out. I hate

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Speaker 1: to put out this call because I always get stuff

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Speaker 1: that I missed or left out or screwed up. Sort

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Speaker 1: know what we glossed over, what we missed, or where

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Speaker 1: you agreed as well, and.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you drink a bunch of water. Make sure

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Speaker 2: you drink a bunch of water, not too much water,

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Speaker 2: but make sure you stay on top of your hydration.

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Speaker 2: Do we have any official predictions for this conference?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 2: I mean basically, it's just the only thing is who

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01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:08,680
Speaker 2: does Clemson play? I guess in the championship game?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So who is it? Mister Coastal? Mister Coastal? Huh.

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01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm tempted to say Miami. Okay, I'm very tempted to

1743
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 1: say Miami. For me, it's between Virginia and Miami, and

1744
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Keynes. I think they are

1745
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Speaker 1: in line for a pretty big first year under me. Wows.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I don't. I mean, I can't really question that.

1747
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 2: I don't think it's Georgia just eliminating teams. I think

1748
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 2: Duke Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Pitt and probably Virginia.

1749
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 1: Tech are out of it already. I think Virginia Tech.

1750
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 1: Could you can make a case for Virginia Tech? Mm

1751
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 1: I do? I didn't seem to no, I didn't say, well.

1752
01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 1: I mean I think they've got continuity and I think

1753
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 1: they can only get better on defense. Yeah, so I

1754
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 1: feel better about Virginia Tech than maybe I let on.

1755
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 2: But I've had continuity with my body for thirty six

1756
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:13,719
Speaker 2: years and I still can't dunk.

1757
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 1: It's still not happening. I'm gonna go Miami, Virginia, Virginia

1758
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:20,680
Speaker 1: Tech in that order, at the top three, top three

1759
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 1: of the castle.

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01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:24,320
Speaker 2: All right, I think I agree. I think it's Miami

1761
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:26,280
Speaker 2: of Virginia. I think I'm gonna where's that game this year?

1762
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 2: I think that'll decide it. Whoever's playing at home. I'm

1763
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 2: just going to award the coastal too.

1764
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 1: Right now? The game is at Miami. The game is

1765
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 1: at Miami.

1766
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 2: All right, give me the cans and the hopefully not

1767
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:39,639
Speaker 2: too much product in Manny Diaz's hair.

1768
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, that's it, right in one more time,

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Speaker 1: Silverbleeginia dot com. Let us know what's on your mind.

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Speaker 1: We will be back next week, talk about a different conference.

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Speaker 1: Won't give too much away. I say that because we

1772
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:56,679
Speaker 1: honestly have not figured out which conference we'll be talking

1773
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:57,599
Speaker 1: about a week from tonight.

1774
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 2: We forgot to mention the Patriot League connection that we

1775
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 2: probably oh, right, Louisville.

1776
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:07,600
Speaker 1: Louisville, Louisville. I believe it.

1777
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 2: It's TJ Nole, Yes, TJ Nole is the linebacker. Gosh,

1778
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 2: he's not coming up on Google, so I feel like

1779
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 2: I'm pronouncing it incorrectly. But there is a Colgate linebacker,

1780
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 2: not just a Colgate linebacker, but a I think it

1781
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 2: was FCS All Star All American And let me get

1782
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 2: this Colgate linebacker Louisville.

1783
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm so ashamed. Yeah, TJ Hole, not TJ nole. H

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Speaker 1: O l L.

1785
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:36,680
Speaker 2: He was Patriot League Defensive Player of the Year. We

1786
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 2: saw him play in Fargo, North Dakota. He is now

1787
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 2: playing for Louisville. So that big stanky Drummond Fife travels

1788
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 2: to fine state of Kentucky in the acc Fatlantic. So

1789
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Speaker 2: that's something that's fun.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's it. All right, Well, thank you again for listening.

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