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Speaker 3: Screen Welcome today rapper motivational speaker as well the one
Speaker 3: and only D one is here on Big Facts.
Speaker 1: Thank y'all.
Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome one. Brother.
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for this moment.
Speaker 3: And we have too. We have two. What's what's on?
Speaker 3: What's on your mind today? What's on your what's what's
Speaker 3: on your spirit?
Speaker 2: And your energy?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: I feel I feel blessed because you remember that fifty
Speaker 1: cent and the game song, hated in love with the
Speaker 1: underdogs on top and I'm gonna shine home in to
Speaker 1: my hart stop. That's how I feel, bro. Like I
Speaker 1: told you off, I was like, Bro, it's been a
Speaker 1: good season man, Like I could just feel things growing.
Speaker 1: I feel more people paying attention to my music, my moves,
Speaker 1: my whole move and everything. And it's a blessing because
Speaker 1: I think I'm mature enough to know, like what all
Speaker 1: this is is for this is for man, all this
Speaker 1: attention that we get is to really try to teach
Speaker 1: people something that's going to help their lives out, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Some people get their attention and
Speaker 1: they think it's just all about them. This ain't about me.
Speaker 1: I'm being used in this season though, by God, I'm
Speaker 1: being used. So I'm getting the attention, but I know
Speaker 1: who to give it right back to, you know, which
Speaker 1: is God.
Speaker 3: And a lot of that, I think is because whether
Speaker 3: people agree or disagree with you, you're being true to yourself.
Speaker 3: And I tell people, when you step into that space
Speaker 3: of being true to yourself, then everything just starts coming
Speaker 3: together effortlessly for you. So I definitely salute you for
Speaker 3: always speaking your truth and standing on what you stand
Speaker 3: on and a tasteful way fighting to fight to agree
Speaker 3: or agree to disagree, because that's what it's all about
Speaker 3: at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: Say communication leads to unification. That's what I live by here.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I made that up, and I made it up one day.
Speaker 1: I think I was rapping and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a bar. Matter of fact, that's in the song
Speaker 1: I got just about to come out. Community should leads
Speaker 1: to unification. We're not gonna all agree on everything. We
Speaker 1: were sitting there talking about which food spider is the best,
Speaker 1: and everybody's saying, oh it is spider. I don't like
Speaker 1: this person or they alight have the time. It's okay
Speaker 1: to not agree on everything, but let's at least communicate.
Speaker 1: And in our culture, we kind of got these clicks
Speaker 1: that's like, oh, this is the type of time on
Speaker 1: you on this type of energy. Will all of y'all
Speaker 1: hang together? Oh you d one you on something else
Speaker 1: where you and all your people hang together? No, man,
Speaker 1: cause we all won. At the end of the day.
Speaker 1: We are all one, and we got to have a
Speaker 1: way to have these difficult conversations. So when it comes
Speaker 1: to hip hop, I'm just like, oh, we got a
Speaker 1: lot to talk about in this culture because hip hop
Speaker 1: is bigger than any other movement gone for black people
Speaker 1: right now. There's nothing bigger pertaining to black people than
Speaker 1: hip hop. So let's at least be honest about the
Speaker 1: culture and talk about what's good was healthy about it,
Speaker 1: and what might need to change and improve about it.
Speaker 1: And that's what I That's what I've been talking on
Speaker 1: lately from the heart from lived experiences being in this
Speaker 1: game for a long time, ups, downs, good, bad and
Speaker 1: ugly and just having these convos man, and yeah, it
Speaker 1: got me on big facts.
Speaker 2: It is that is? That is so?
Speaker 3: So what are some of the things that you think
Speaker 3: is lacking in the culture, like some of the things
Speaker 3: that just ring out to you.
Speaker 1: I think we're in the matrix right now. I think
Speaker 1: I think one thing, we we love to kombay around killing.
Speaker 1: We love to hear a bunch of music glorifying murder,
Speaker 1: and we be like, oh, yeah, that's my song right there.
Speaker 1: We turning up to that. Man, I'm going to the
Speaker 1: clubs now. I can't wait till they play that. Matter
Speaker 1: of fact, till they play twenty songs like that. We
Speaker 1: got to stop kombay and around killing. And if we
Speaker 1: if we're saying, hey, it's just when that's our stuff, like,
Speaker 1: don't criticize that. I cool. Then why do we cry
Speaker 1: when rappers die, but when they're alive we love to
Speaker 1: hear them glorified murder? That type of stuff just don't
Speaker 1: make sense to me no more. Why do I think
Speaker 1: that is? I think that for about thirty years now, Jed, Yes,
Speaker 1: I think about thirty years at this point we have
Speaker 1: become more and more numb to what got pushed on us.
Speaker 1: And one time, when we was all in their babies,
Speaker 1: it was kind of being pushed on the rappers for
Speaker 1: the first time, like, Hey, if y'all rap about these
Speaker 1: negative topics, we'll get y'all some more bread. We'll sign
Speaker 1: y'all quicker, We'll incentivize y'all to rap about this stuff.
Speaker 1: And once a few people took the bait and was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, and then they start rapping about
Speaker 1: it and they see man, the fans loving this stuff,
Speaker 1: and then people start to get more and more used
Speaker 1: to it. Now in twenty twenty four, a dude that
Speaker 1: is sitting here saying, bro, I just think that glorifying
Speaker 1: murdering ourselves is bad. I look like the outcasts people
Speaker 1: looking at it like d one man, you tripping man.
Speaker 1: You talking about we shouldn't be rapping about murdering ourselves
Speaker 1: and selling dope to our people. That's crazy, yo. Common
Speaker 1: sense ain't controversial, Yo, I ain't no controversial, due you
Speaker 1: heard me. But in this culture, in this day and
Speaker 1: age twenty twenty four, common sense is troversial, and we're
Speaker 1: seeing it I'm speaking on this stuff and I'm speaking
Speaker 1: big facts. But they don't want that. They want the
Speaker 1: big captain.
Speaker 5: What you're thinking about, how you feel when the Kniggs
Speaker 5: feel like, man, the one you need to get.
Speaker 1: Out of my mother fun Man. Your business. If it's
Speaker 1: your business, they keep it to yourself. Don't put it
Speaker 1: out there for the world to hear. Once you put
Speaker 1: it out there for the world to hear, it ain't
Speaker 1: your business no more, hearl Man. It's public content for
Speaker 1: everybody to consume. So you know, a critique and critique,
Speaker 1: thank you. We need that other seeing that not just consume.
Speaker 1: Were to the point nowadays, but cats is like, man,
Speaker 1: nobody better not even say that my album ain't dope.
Speaker 1: If somebody go online and do a review of my
Speaker 1: album and they say my album was whack or they
Speaker 1: ain't like it, it's up you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I got I got issues with that person. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta do better than that, brother. We
Speaker 1: got to. So for me, I'm not ever critiquing people's character.
Speaker 1: I'm critiquing people's content. And I'm not even saying if
Speaker 1: something is whack or not whack because they got songs
Speaker 1: that I'm from New Orleans. Look, when Laughing Taffy first
Speaker 1: came out, you couldn't have told none of us that
Speaker 1: that was about to be a hit. Bagging New Orleans.
Speaker 1: We was like, no, sir, there ain't no way this
Speaker 1: song finna go. And then you saw Bloop up the
Speaker 1: Chucks And next thing, you know, all us in New
Speaker 1: Orleans dance like boosting Booster at the hog Game.
Speaker 6: Love about the same way about that ship, man, But
Speaker 6: that ship got the.
Speaker 1: Money, manic it is. It is magic when you see
Speaker 1: how a song could catch on and get so big
Speaker 1: and then everybody's singing it and then the whole culture
Speaker 1: that follows it. So when you see that stuff, it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, music has real power. We gotta take this
Speaker 1: power serious, man, Like do everybody on this show believe
Speaker 1: in God? Curious?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Of course, So we believe in God. We love God,
Speaker 1: and we all love hip hop. Right. I just think
Speaker 1: at a certain point we gotta make a decision what
Speaker 1: do we love more God or hip hop?
Speaker 7: Which one said God always come I mean his name,
Speaker 7: but God always comes first, all right?
Speaker 1: So as we say that, now we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: go one step at the town. As you say that
Speaker 1: God always comes first before hip hop, then if we
Speaker 1: see things going on in hip hop that's not of
Speaker 1: God and that God would be like, oh no, I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't rock with that. I can't. Who said how
Speaker 1: God feel about the Bible? But the Bible the Bible,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm asking if you believe in so you
Speaker 1: say you believe in God, but you don't believe in
Speaker 1: the Bible. Yes, it's different religions, even if it ain't
Speaker 1: the Bible, the Koran, if it's the Koran, whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Or someone could be spiritual.
Speaker 1: If you're spiritual, then you believe that God. Do y'all
Speaker 1: think God want us out here killing ourselves and killing
Speaker 1: each other? No, there we go. So when we hear
Speaker 1: music that's glorifying us killing each other, then at a
Speaker 1: certain point we got to be like, dang, do I
Speaker 1: go with this catching music that it sound good and
Speaker 1: it's banging, but it's really talking about us killing each
Speaker 1: other and it's like it's making it sound like cool,
Speaker 1: like we really bragging on that stuff. Or do I
Speaker 1: be like, I'm gonna resist that temptation and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with with what I know God would approve of
Speaker 1: which is like, they got a whole bunch of other
Speaker 1: music out here that's not glorifying that, and let me
Speaker 1: just pick some of that to play, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, that's what I be on because that
Speaker 1: music has power and it starts out as a song,
Speaker 1: but then for some people it becomes an anthem. Then
Speaker 1: for some people it becomes a lifestyle. And when we
Speaker 1: talk about, well, why people don't say it's about movies,
Speaker 1: why people don't say this about video games? Tell me
Speaker 1: the last actor? My bad if I keep doing it.
Speaker 1: I'm a touchy person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look when the
Speaker 1: last time an actor called a rico charge? When the
Speaker 1: last time I actor got put in jail for murking something?
Speaker 1: I wait, No, we're right, right, we speaking big facts today,
Speaker 1: you hear men. With that being said, it's clear that
Speaker 1: in hip hop, man, this stuff is hitting different, these messages.
Speaker 1: It's not the same as movies and video games, because
Speaker 1: the people who listen to rap and who making the
Speaker 1: music actually carrying this stuff out sometimes. Bro. So when
Speaker 1: we see that, like bro, like I told, like I
Speaker 1: told scream off camera, like man, I teach a college class, right,
Speaker 1: now you hear me at Tough University that's in Boston.
Speaker 1: One of the assignments I had my students do was
Speaker 1: to write Kodak Black a letter in jail. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He's a lot of their favorite rapper,
Speaker 1: but their favorite rapper locked up in jail. So I
Speaker 1: was like, man, I know Kodak. Me and Kodak did
Speaker 1: interacted a few times and were cool with each other.
Speaker 1: So I had my whole class write him a letter
Speaker 1: while he was in jail. He got out, you know,
Speaker 1: thankfully Yack is back home. As soon as he got out,
Speaker 1: he was dming each other. He was like, Man, thank
Speaker 1: y'all for them letters. Bro, I got I read every
Speaker 1: letter from you and your whole class. He was like,
Speaker 1: y'all snapped, and that stuff really, you know, inspired me
Speaker 1: when I was in there. I'm like, Man, that's that's
Speaker 1: powerfu for Bro. But you can't say that about Man,
Speaker 1: my favorite actor who was in this movie. Damn he
Speaker 1: locked up. He doing a bed right now, and we
Speaker 1: got to write letters to him behind the wall. No, Man,
Speaker 1: this rap stuff hit totally different, totally different. So because
Speaker 1: it has that type of power, it's just like man,
Speaker 1: I got. I got smoked. For the fans who just
Speaker 1: sit back and they're like, we're gonna listen to this
Speaker 1: music and we're gonna consume all this. But then when
Speaker 1: something happened to the rapper, Oh they in jail. Oh
Speaker 1: that ain't nothing, y'all. T I put a song out
Speaker 1: a few years ago. This was on his Paper Trail
Speaker 1: album called My Life Your Entertainment Man. That song was
Speaker 1: so powerful. Just the title of that song. T I said,
Speaker 1: this is my life. I'm really going to jail. I'm
Speaker 1: really losing what is part of the name was who
Speaker 1: got killed for Lint Johnson? Right for Lunt. I'm really
Speaker 1: going through this stuff. But this is y'all entertainment. You
Speaker 1: heard me. So when y'all yell at free thug as fans,
Speaker 1: y'all ain't thug though not having to do that time
Speaker 1: with him, you not thugs. Family. It's just a hashtag
Speaker 1: to a lot of fans, and they don't care, like
Speaker 1: we hashtag your free thumbs, but we ain't here feeling
Speaker 1: the pain of like damn, he ain't here with us
Speaker 1: no more so you feeling the pain. But I feel
Speaker 1: like you different than the typical fan. Yeah, you different
Speaker 1: than the typical fan. So my thing with the fans is,
Speaker 1: fans got power with y'all. As an artist, man, my fans.
Speaker 1: When I look in up comments on Instagram and when
Speaker 1: I look at what people saying, I just dropped a
Speaker 1: new song today feature Raheem Devon, Right, it's called Purify
Speaker 1: My Eyes. People loving the song. That stuff makes me
Speaker 1: feel good. Man, That stuff made me be like, man,
Speaker 1: we gotta go hit the lab right after this big
Speaker 1: fact show and record some more music. Fans got the
Speaker 1: power to make you feel amazing. But with that being said,
Speaker 1: if your fans are gonna buck you up to man,
Speaker 1: go live that life you raping about it?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, if fans is nudging you to really go
Speaker 1: do some toxic stuff, and then when you get killed
Speaker 1: or when you get locked up, you come. It's just
Speaker 1: a hashtag for them and then they are on to
Speaker 1: the next artists. They all right, rest in peace, such
Speaker 1: and such. But we found a new favorite rapper just
Speaker 1: gonna rap about killing or whatever. Now that ain't cool. Man.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of artists that's in jail on the
Speaker 1: graveyard right now. And they had people around them who knew, like, man,
Speaker 1: what you doing, how you living, how you rapping, how
Speaker 1: you moving in the streets. It ain't healthy, it ain't safe,
Speaker 1: But we ain't gonna say nothing. Why because it's entertaining
Speaker 1: to us. You feel like you were chosen to, like
Speaker 1: put this message up. Yeah, that's where the name d
Speaker 1: one comes from. I'm d one, you hear me, But
Speaker 1: my first name David. So I took the D from
Speaker 1: from from David and I said, I'm d one. I'm
Speaker 1: the one, bro, I'm the one that was chosen to
Speaker 1: put this out here. And that don't mean that there's
Speaker 1: not others that's chosen too, but me personally. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: I've been through too much, bro, I done seen too much.
Speaker 1: I had to figure out why did my best friend
Speaker 1: just get murdered right in front of our neighborhood where
Speaker 1: we grew up at. Why did these dudes hold me up,
Speaker 1: you know, stick me up when I was in college
Speaker 1: and put that iron right here on my temple, on
Speaker 1: my right temple and about to blow my brains out,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Why was I the one
Speaker 1: who grew up listening to the Hot Bulls and No
Speaker 1: Limit in New Orleans and listening to the same music.
Speaker 1: But then I won, not a contest, but I got
Speaker 1: selected to go on this trip to go to Africa
Speaker 1: when I'm thirteen years old. The rest of the hood,
Speaker 1: you heard me, the rest of the Goose my dog
Speaker 1: off camera, he know, growing up on Dwyed Road in
Speaker 1: the Goose in New Orleans, Like that ain't typical. A
Speaker 1: lot of us ain't even leaving the city. I left
Speaker 1: the continent and went to Africa and had a whole
Speaker 1: different perspective on life. And I'm just like all these
Speaker 1: things that happen, you know, stuff that I seen my
Speaker 1: mama and daddy go through my grandparents like why, And
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, man, I'm the one. I'm one of
Speaker 1: the ones that was chosen to be around all this stuff.
Speaker 1: But then figure out how to take all that and
Speaker 1: turn it into something positive at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: Like I'm yeah, I'm.
Speaker 5: Pretty sure you have a lot of resistance, but I'm
Speaker 5: shit you beyond like from different references resistance like which one,
Speaker 5: which one really like made you feel away?
Speaker 1: Which one made me feel away? So man, I only
Speaker 1: really got bro I'm cool with ninety nine percent of
Speaker 1: the people who I run across. To tell the truth,
Speaker 1: the only person who I saw who showed some outward
Speaker 1: resistance to anything that I said that I was like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, he took that real serious. Was like Rick Ross, Right,
Speaker 1: I seen Rick Ross go online, and I was basically saying, brother, Uh,
Speaker 1: you're almost fifty years old. You blessed. You're immensely blessed.
Speaker 1: You're a boss in every sense of the word. At
Speaker 1: this point when I listen to your music as a fan,
Speaker 1: and if I'm still hearing like dang, like you glorifying murder,
Speaker 1: you glorifying drug dealing in your music, like what's stup
Speaker 1: with that? I feel like you could do better. And
Speaker 1: his response to that, you know, to me saying that
Speaker 1: was he just went to, like we call it ribbon
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Yeah, you know what ribbon is. Ribbon
Speaker 1: is like what y'all might call it joning or something.
Speaker 1: Or he just went straight to, who is you, little man,
Speaker 1: basket head? Who is you basket headed? Start trying to
Speaker 1: imitate my accent and talk like me and all that
Speaker 1: make fun of me, You fake roster little boy, you
Speaker 1: boy before you ever talked about on Hold on what
Speaker 1: man say that now?
Speaker 5: Because he's saying someth about him because I went because
Speaker 5: I was on the interview.
Speaker 1: I had just listened to some new music that they'll
Speaker 1: put out, and like I said, I'm a fan of
Speaker 1: the culture. I'm a fan of talent. I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of success, especially from our community. And when I heard
Speaker 1: the music, I was like, I was shocked, really because
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'm about listening to some stuff. It's gonna
Speaker 1: tell us, you know, how you building your empire, and this,
Speaker 1: that and the third. And when I'm listening to the
Speaker 1: singles they get put out. Man, it's talking about Mrking
Speaker 1: Cats is talking about killing. This is talking about selling dope.
Speaker 1: I got a hundred, you know, pounds of this and
Speaker 1: da da da, And I just was shocked, and I
Speaker 1: was just like, man, I feel like I feel like
Speaker 1: we could do better, my brother, I feel like you
Speaker 1: could do better than that, you know. And so sort
Speaker 1: of response coming with that type of energy that let
Speaker 1: me know like like you're deflecting right now. You ain't
Speaker 1: addressed nothing. I said, you start talking about how many
Speaker 1: turkeys you give out in the community. I never said
Speaker 1: you don't give out turkeys, but them turkeys feed people
Speaker 1: for one day. Their music feed people for a lifetime,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, let's talk about it, brother, Let's
Speaker 1: talk about the impact of that, you know, and cats
Speaker 1: get you know, cats get mad because they feel like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you said my name. You said my name. You're putting
Speaker 1: content out there for the public.
Speaker 2: What you mean, you.
Speaker 1: Know, like, I'm gonna keep it rid.
Speaker 5: You know, it's like the internet world, so you can
Speaker 5: say certain shit and people go to feel like that shit,
Speaker 5: especially if it sounds kind of true.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You could have told me that and make me look
Speaker 5: at it a different way, but you put it out
Speaker 5: on the internet.
Speaker 1: Now, people, it's just people. Do you think people are just.
Speaker 5: Taking it the wrong way because you said something about
Speaker 5: like when you say a man name, you gotta be
Speaker 5: on the name. However you want to say whatever you
Speaker 5: want to say after that, or do whatever you want
Speaker 5: to do because you said his name, you put yourself
Speaker 5: in that position. Or do you think people are being
Speaker 5: just too sensitive?
Speaker 1: I think that along with a lot of success in
Speaker 1: the rap game for a lot of people comes a
Speaker 1: lot of ego, for sure, a lot of ego and
Speaker 1: a lot of pride. But who, but who are you
Speaker 1: if a nigga looking like.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying like anig like if I never knew you,
Speaker 5: but me personally, I never knew you. I never knew
Speaker 5: of a d One. I wake up the morning to
Speaker 5: mar and d One critiquing me. Well, that's like, who
Speaker 5: the fuck is this nigga? They just off the rip?
Speaker 5: How you feel? At least when I going in your page,
Speaker 5: When I go on your pay I can see some
Speaker 5: DM from back in the day you're telling me like,
Speaker 5: oh g you don't think you should be You know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, I probably can respect it, like you
Speaker 5: reached out to me before you even went viral to
Speaker 5: get my attention. You see what I'm saying, Like if
Speaker 5: you the Tom Ross like DM somewhere like I feel
Speaker 5: like that's what you pushing.
Speaker 1: I don't it's bogus. Hey, something came by to me.
Speaker 1: If I know it ain't true, I'm gonna say that
Speaker 1: much too. Something I'm saying you, I ain't saying you
Speaker 1: was lying. You been telling the truth.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying that a nigga could take
Speaker 5: it different if you tell them first, like you Cloud bro.
Speaker 5: You know how long I've been famous for No, but
Speaker 5: you get what I'm saying, all right, but you look
Speaker 5: at it from that perspective, I definitely can I get
Speaker 5: where you're coming from.
Speaker 1: Its just that when cats run to the same old
Speaker 1: cloud because it was it was it was Joe Budden
Speaker 1: was talking that talk too, Like who is this dude?
Speaker 1: He just cloud chasing? It's like, dog, Google is your friend, man, brother,
Speaker 1: go to Google and type in D E E dash
Speaker 1: the number one and you're gonna see how long. And
Speaker 1: I've been standing on this same tip for I've been
Speaker 1: I've been saying these same type of things, just like, Bro,
Speaker 1: I love hip hop. I'm a hip hop baby. But
Speaker 1: at a certain point, man, we could do better in
Speaker 1: terms of our culture. And it's different when you're OG
Speaker 1: versus you a YG. You just a teenager that's trying
Speaker 1: to figure life out. Your brain is still farming. Are
Speaker 1: you in your twenties and you just coming into the
Speaker 1: money for the first time. That hit different when you're
Speaker 1: a little a little kid coming up in this game
Speaker 1: and we supposed to be here as OG's to help
Speaker 1: guide you. But what if you are OG but you're
Speaker 1: really not. We need to stop calling people OG's. And
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about anybody specific when I say this,
Speaker 1: but we need to stop calling people OG's because just
Speaker 1: because they're older. At this point, you might be a DG.
Speaker 1: That's a disappointing grown up. Straight up. That's big facts.
Speaker 1: I need a cup. That's big fact. That's big facts
Speaker 1: right there, brother, Like we got we got a lot
Speaker 1: of disappointing grown ups in this culture, man, and we
Speaker 1: got to call a spade a spade. So there has
Speaker 1: to be a way to have these conversations to where
Speaker 1: people realize, like, man, this dude not hating on me personally.
Speaker 1: This dude is serving God. We all said we believe
Speaker 1: in God, and I'm looking at it like, man, I
Speaker 1: don't think God would be pleased with me if he
Speaker 1: be Like wait, brother, so I had you down there
Speaker 1: on earth.
Speaker 5: You know niggas is though you prepared to go? What
Speaker 5: what like if a nigga who take it the wrong way?
Speaker 5: Is you prepared for that?
Speaker 1: I already was prepared for it, I responded, once I
Speaker 1: got responded to it in a certain type of way.
Speaker 1: I responded in love, I responded, what's something like funk
Speaker 1: all that love ship?
Speaker 5: When I see the nigga, I'm in him them counting
Speaker 5: and retard the niggas.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. The thing is, the thing
Speaker 1: is too like.
Speaker 7: A lot of people might not be familiar with who
Speaker 7: you are and disrespect.
Speaker 6: Like you just a nigga trying to tear down what
Speaker 6: they got going on.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I don't see that for you.
Speaker 5: Like everything you say, I believe you believe what you're saying,
Speaker 5: and that's hard for me. It's hard for me. Yeah,
Speaker 5: to believe a nigga believe what he's actually saying. So
Speaker 5: many niggas is selling ship he kept. I believe however
Speaker 5: you feel, I believe you. That's why I ask you
Speaker 5: when I said, do you feel like you was chosen
Speaker 5: to do this?
Speaker 1: Bro? I mean like you're in your purpose? But nigga
Speaker 1: can't see that from a far say, you're right, You're right.
Speaker 1: What I care about more than how somebody gonna feel
Speaker 1: is how God gonna feel when I got to stand
Speaker 1: in front of him and he'd be like, so, look,
Speaker 1: d So I put you in the rap game. You've
Speaker 1: seen all this going on in your industry, and you
Speaker 1: were too scared to say something because you was worried
Speaker 1: about with another person was gonna think about you? Man,
Speaker 1: you lame, d I don't want to I'm lame. Yeah
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, right.
Speaker 5: Touches this ship is like sometimes you have to depth,
Speaker 5: like like we just talking to another kid from who
Speaker 5: said the internet is the way, Like we have to
Speaker 5: look at ship for this ship has changed, Like I
Speaker 5: get what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Like it used to be times where niggas.
Speaker 5: Love or god damn be checked like oh, yeah, you're right, bro,
Speaker 5: niggas will hear you out.
Speaker 1: D day, don't nobody want to hear you out because
Speaker 1: it's too easy to get embarrassed.
Speaker 5: And then the Internet don't forget and that and ship
Speaker 5: got everybody is afraid and got anxiety to get embarrassed.
Speaker 1: On the Internet.
Speaker 5: So with that being said, nigga's ready to protect their
Speaker 5: Internet image over anything you're saying. You be saying some
Speaker 5: real ship telling the true nigga like fuck that, nigga,
Speaker 5: don't mention my name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I feel like, man that that's that. That's
Speaker 1: that's a great point right there. So then you got
Speaker 1: to ask yourself, damn, how do we how do we
Speaker 1: deal with that? Because what you basically saying I'm reading
Speaker 1: between the lines is even if cats is pushing out
Speaker 1: some evil, some negativity, some hatred. They wanted to go
Speaker 1: underposed because they're like, yes, but I dated to say
Speaker 1: somebody through it, you know what. I yeah, just stay
Speaker 1: out there, out my business. But when you do, now
Speaker 1: I feel tried. There you go. And that's so I
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like that's a trick of the enemy, bro.
Speaker 1: That's I want to be able to do evil, but
Speaker 1: I want it to be unopposed, because if somebody try
Speaker 1: to oppose it, we call them a cloud chaser. We
Speaker 1: call that a hater da dada. That's like really a trick.
Speaker 1: That's almost like your landlord saying, listen, I want the
Speaker 1: right to be able to raise your rent each month,
Speaker 1: but you can't say nothing because I got a clause
Speaker 1: in this lease that says if you say something about
Speaker 1: me raising the rent every month, then I could kick
Speaker 1: you out of here. That just ain't right, brother, That
Speaker 1: ain't right.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 1: So it's just to that point to where it's like, well,
Speaker 1: how do you approach these conversations? And I think that's
Speaker 1: the thing. We can't not have these conversations though it's
Speaker 1: too many rappers that we all love the black men
Speaker 1: and women just like us, and we're seeing their life
Speaker 1: get compromised and messed up and all this, man, because
Speaker 1: of everybody's seen it coming. You've seen the path they
Speaker 1: was going down, but it was just entertaining to y'all
Speaker 1: or nobody wanted to seem like a hater, so nobody
Speaker 1: wanted to say and you watch that person mess their
Speaker 1: whole life up man like, and more so than the rappers,
Speaker 1: it's the fans. Bro. What we didn't talk about is
Speaker 1: y'all don't know. I don't think y'all like man. I
Speaker 1: was a middle school teacher before I was a rapper, Bro.
Speaker 1: I was a whole teacher, really really jed. So before
Speaker 1: I became d one and got in this game, I
Speaker 1: was sitting here teaching students in Baton Rouge, watching every
Speaker 1: student won't be just like Boosy, Watching every student wont
Speaker 1: be like Gates, you know what I'm saying. Watching how
Speaker 1: much influence Lil Wayne had on one of my students.
Speaker 1: So my student came in class at eighth grader with
Speaker 1: MOB tattooed on his own and he didn't even know
Speaker 1: where mob stood for, but he got it because Lil
Speaker 1: Wayne got a MOB tattooed on his chest. I'm seeing
Speaker 1: that type of stuff in person. This ain't no Internet stuff.
Speaker 1: This is before Instagram even existed. So when I'm seeing
Speaker 1: the type of influence that rappers having on the fans,
Speaker 1: I know you always got them fans. Rapping never make
Speaker 1: me do nothing. I mean, I could listen to it,
Speaker 1: but then I just I don't go out and do it.
Speaker 1: Da da da. I get that cool and congratulations, kudos
Speaker 1: to you and to me, because rapping ain't never make
Speaker 1: me jump off the porch and go, you know, live
Speaker 1: that type of life. But I have been around the
Speaker 1: people who it definitely had that type of influence. You're saying,
Speaker 1: you know it exists, you witness I know the influence exists.
Speaker 1: I witness it. I can't call my best friend no
Speaker 1: more because he dead. Now you heard me, and I
Speaker 1: saw the influence that the music that we was listening
Speaker 1: to had on him. And he had great parents, great family,
Speaker 1: but I just seen that. It's like, man, so you
Speaker 1: aver came for them people. Yeah, who ain't got the
Speaker 1: strong will. They ain't got no voice, and it ain't
Speaker 1: got no strong will exactly. I didn't mind people calling
Speaker 1: me a nerd in school. Look at him he doing
Speaker 1: his work. He's one of them smart kids in school.
Speaker 1: He take books home at night. He doing his homework. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: we in New Orleans, Heiman, we catching the RTA and
Speaker 1: my friend when they're telling him that, he's sitting there like,
Speaker 1: and I see it's getting to him. He LIKEDMN. I
Speaker 1: don't want these people making fun of me no more. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what I gotta do to fit in
Speaker 1: with them. I want their acceptance. You want the acceptance
Speaker 1: of the goons, so you gotta become a goon to
Speaker 1: get their acceptance. Me, I was like, well, everybody ain't
Speaker 1: gonna like me, but I'm not finna dumped down who
Speaker 1: I am just to make them people like me like
Speaker 1: I had that in me. He ain't all the way
Speaker 1: had that in him. And we was the same person, man,
Speaker 1: Me and Carl was twins, basically, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I didn't been around this stuff. I know the
Speaker 1: influence it has, so for these rappers to not know
Speaker 1: the influence it has. I have people who, Man, these
Speaker 1: people don't change. They hit me up every day and
Speaker 1: tell me how much my music has helped them change
Speaker 1: their life, save their marriage, get them through high school,
Speaker 1: get them through a prison. Big Kody Black hitting me up, man,
Speaker 1: thank you brother them let us. You don't know how
Speaker 1: much that motivated me. I know the impact I have
Speaker 1: and I ain't never wear Platt. So imagine the artists
Speaker 1: that they went platt you heard me, or artists did
Speaker 1: got to different level of success in terms of finances
Speaker 1: and all that. Then what I got. I know the
Speaker 1: influence that they got, and I think they know the
Speaker 1: influence they got too, And I think they just sit
Speaker 1: there and be like, well, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: still rap about this stuff, but I'm gonna give out
Speaker 1: turkeys that Thanksgiving and that's gonna be Ain't that what you? No?
Speaker 1: Brown did give out turkeys? Meanwhile, you selling dope to
Speaker 1: the whole hood? What you're saying, I said, somebody gotta
Speaker 1: sell it.
Speaker 5: Somebody got that's not But at the end of the day, bro,
Speaker 5: it's some downs inside of the road.
Speaker 1: And I ain't condoning no ignorance, right, But this ship
Speaker 1: fucked up, like you.
Speaker 5: Said, the fans it is because if you try to
Speaker 5: go rap with something that you not no more, it's
Speaker 5: like a what you call it when it's double double ends.
Speaker 2: It's a science. It's a science of growth. Though I
Speaker 2: always bring up this is growth. Yeah, like Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 3: Snoop Dogg ain't rapping about what he did when he
Speaker 3: first got in the game.
Speaker 2: He don't kind of evolve.
Speaker 3: He'll still let you know, I'm cripping all that type
Speaker 3: of stuff, but he don't kind of like he wraps
Speaker 3: his evolving. And this is not to go at nobody
Speaker 3: or nothing like that, but I think there's a science
Speaker 3: to it, you know what I'm saying in respect too
Speaker 3: of just expression. Though the reality is when you say
Speaker 3: something about like you know, murder and everything like that,
Speaker 3: like what if that's all Like what if that's the environment?
Speaker 3: What if you were that Chicago rapper and that's all
Speaker 3: you know when you wake up, when you go to sleep,
Speaker 3: that's all you see, that's all you're exposed to. You
Speaker 3: might not have been exposed to the world or you
Speaker 3: haven't evolved in that science yet to rap about someone else.
Speaker 3: So I kind of dance on both sides of it.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, Yes, sir, that's how I feel too. That's
Speaker 1: an amazing that's an amazing point. That's why I never
Speaker 1: ever talk about the younger rappers, because I'm knowing that
Speaker 1: they the ones who why I live their reality. But
Speaker 1: if you sitting here and you're sitting on one hundred
Speaker 1: million dollar empire that shooting built, if you're on private jets,
Speaker 1: if you then clearly made it, you ammed up. And
Speaker 1: you're older at this point. And I'm not saying older
Speaker 1: like to try to make fun of nobody, but you
Speaker 1: literally older. You in your late thirties, you and your forties,
Speaker 1: some people in their fifties. You have graduated from that
Speaker 1: phase of life that you're talking about, that that part.
Speaker 1: So I'm intentional about that because I always look at
Speaker 1: the youth ever since I was a teacher, and I'm
Speaker 1: just like, man, this ain't no bad dude right here, man,
Speaker 1: Fredile bang Noll, my middle school student. Man, I look
Speaker 1: at Fredile, I'm like, this ain't no bad dude right here.
Speaker 1: He just a little kid. He trying to grow. He
Speaker 1: my middle school student. Like literally, you see that, and
Speaker 1: you see he got a lot of potential in him.
Speaker 1: And it's our job as adults to pour into these
Speaker 1: youth to make sure that they can reach their potential.
Speaker 1: But what happens when it's the adult just doing the
Speaker 1: stuff that's like, hold on, man, you're older than me
Speaker 1: and you still acting like this. How do you how
Speaker 1: do you approach that? I think you got to approach
Speaker 1: it different than you approach a child.
Speaker 7: But let me ask you this, with that same philosophy,
Speaker 7: how do you feel about jay.
Speaker 1: Z when he made Blue Magic? When he made Blue
Speaker 1: Magic song that was on the American gangst the soundtrack. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he was talking about the selling door. See the
Speaker 1: artistic part about something like that is that soundtrack was
Speaker 1: literally the soundtrack to go with the movie. So it
Speaker 1: was like, whatever the movie had going on, jay Z
Speaker 1: literally made it known I'm making songs that match with
Speaker 1: scenes in this movie as opposed to I'm making songs
Speaker 1: just about how I'm living currently. I think that that's
Speaker 1: the nuance with an example like that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but do you think that when older rappers or
Speaker 7: more mature rappers speak to current things that are going
Speaker 7: on in the street, do you think that they're automatically
Speaker 7: saying that this is how I'm living now or they're
Speaker 7: saying that this is what's going on in the streets
Speaker 7: from my current perspective.
Speaker 1: Beautiful, beautiful question. Yeah, that's that's good man. That's a
Speaker 1: super good question. You we gotta know the difference between
Speaker 1: narration and glorification. Some of these dudes is really good
Speaker 1: and narrating what's going on in the street and they
Speaker 1: describing the social conditions. My favorite rapper of all time
Speaker 1: is Knives. I feel like we clearly know that Knives
Speaker 1: grow up in the streets. You heard me, Like, we
Speaker 1: clearly know he grew up in QB. You know, Queen's
Speaker 1: Bridge projects, all that stuff. But Nives has a way
Speaker 1: of talking about what's going on without saying I'm the
Speaker 1: one you hear me, It's finna come walk you down.
Speaker 1: I'm the one that is our cher murkings and murking
Speaker 1: add and da da da, and that way, we feel
Speaker 1: like we can relate to it because.
Speaker 5: He talked about what's going on saying you're saying basically
Speaker 5: nas nas narrating heen condona.
Speaker 1: The con Yeah, I got a good hear in my
Speaker 1: like alls got an ear to what we can hear. Like, man,
Speaker 1: when these people are rapping like this, like you listen
Speaker 1: to these lyrics. This ain't just talking about what's going on.
Speaker 1: This is saying I will do this to you. I'm
Speaker 1: doing this I'm gonna give my potner a bag to
Speaker 1: come do this to you. We ain't crazy. So when
Speaker 1: we're hearing that we ain't crazy, nobody to make me
Speaker 1: think I'm crazy. That's one thing, Big Facts. Nobody made
Speaker 1: me think I'm crazy.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: No, I don't drink, I don't smoke, I ain't knocking
Speaker 1: nobody who do keep doing? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I ain't crazy though, Bro. So when people try to
Speaker 1: make it seem like, but don't you think this, No, No,
Speaker 1: not because you're crazy octopus? You crazy? You crazy bang?
Speaker 1: If if you was to try to make it seem
Speaker 1: like d you hearing this music wrong? Bro, they're not
Speaker 1: glorifying killing. I'll be having people who and I ain't
Speaker 1: even gonna say their name, but y'all know who y'all is. Man,
Speaker 1: y'all interview me, and y'all y'all just want to sound
Speaker 1: bite out of me. Y'all just want like, oh, let's
Speaker 1: make it seem like d one got beef with this artist.
Speaker 1: So they sitting here playing. I know, I know this,
Speaker 1: big Facts, but even me saying their name is I'm
Speaker 1: talking about stuff that didn't happen already. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: but they got people who try to make it seem
Speaker 1: like I'm crazy to be like, I have no idea
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. I don't think people be glorifying
Speaker 1: murdering in their music ever. If you got an example,
Speaker 1: go ahead on and give me an example. Say it.
Speaker 1: I'll be like, brother, you guys, look at him. That's
Speaker 1: good viral right now, won't you? Won't you tell me
Speaker 1: bab or they ain't e rabbers? You could think of
Speaker 1: the glorified murder and they music, all of them say
Speaker 1: some names. Everybody do it. I've done it, and is
Speaker 1: that okay? Sit?
Speaker 5: I can't see it the way I look at it
Speaker 5: that it ain't okay, but I can. I get it.
Speaker 5: I get it because at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: you still making the soundtrack of life, and niggas is
Speaker 5: actually out here doing the same shit.
Speaker 1: Some niggas got their mind made up, and I hate
Speaker 1: the sound. Even some nigs got their mind made up,
Speaker 1: like the nigga that you influenced them.
Speaker 5: Now that's fucked up. Who ain't made up their mind?
Speaker 5: But some niggas already mind made up. And niggas feel
Speaker 5: like they're making the music for niggas who.
Speaker 2: Mind made up soundtrack today life stuff.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I'm gonna ask you. What's the difference,
Speaker 7: you know, I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 1: We could all name but listen, man, oh yeah, thisbody
Speaker 1: get good. That's the soundtrack to people's lifestyle. Who mine
Speaker 1: is made up? I guarantee you if the people that's
Speaker 1: listening to murder music, ninety nine percent of them ain't
Speaker 1: never killed nothing and ain't gonna never kill nothing over
Speaker 1: the course of their life. So it's actually not the
Speaker 1: soundtrack to people who got their no, no, no. What
Speaker 1: he's saying is is that that's the niggas. It's sewing
Speaker 1: up the people.
Speaker 7: Ninety nine percent of the people that are listening to
Speaker 7: murder music probably have never.
Speaker 1: Smoked nothing, but.
Speaker 7: Basically talking about what they're living, and that's how they're
Speaker 7: getting their material, and that's how they're able to be consistent.
Speaker 5: Not really what they're living, but with their peers, like
Speaker 5: what's going on in the hood.
Speaker 1: Like you said, like niggas mostly rappers of sponges.
Speaker 5: They hang around niggas who actually know what's going on,
Speaker 5: you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So they seeing the temperature of the streets. This is
Speaker 1: the tempture of the street.
Speaker 5: This was going on theos straight in the booth and
Speaker 5: naw rate but put themselves in them same shoes as
Speaker 5: if though, then.
Speaker 2: What we doing?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you get what I'm saying, Like that goes on
Speaker 5: that that, that goes on a lot. But what I'm
Speaker 5: saying is I can see because the niggas have a
Speaker 5: studio full of niggas. The niggas are talking about the story.
Speaker 5: You know such so got got it cost though you
Speaker 5: nigga gotta cut shot. Hey man, folks put a fitting
Speaker 5: on this nigga. So niggas is drawing doing their art
Speaker 5: right then they downloading that ship, go straight into move
Speaker 5: and rap about what they people who're gonna be in
Speaker 5: outside while they rapping, they looking through that goddamn glad.
Speaker 1: Oh these nigga feeling this. Yeah, and there you go.
Speaker 1: That's a prime example of people wanting to do with
Speaker 1: other people gonna like as opposed to saying, man, on
Speaker 1: my total pole of identity, I value God more than
Speaker 1: I value other people's opinions. But what if the value
Speaker 1: God at the top of that toe the pole, You're
Speaker 1: gonna be likef what y'all want here? You heard me?
Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's God gonna be proud of him.
Speaker 5: Using that's because you're a hip hop here. Some of
Speaker 5: your nigga looking at this shits a ben yeh. Ain't
Speaker 5: even the same nigga when I go in that move,
Speaker 5: when I leave out the studio on the move, I
Speaker 5: go home, my bitch, I'm different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't even no rapping no more.
Speaker 4: I'm regular.
Speaker 1: And that's lame. How you gonna say that's lame? Yo?
Speaker 1: How you gonna say that because you acting like this,
Speaker 1: really you nobody is getting on the beginning of the
Speaker 1: song saying disclaimer, disclaimer, disclaimer, everything about everything.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm talking you know, I'm I'm totally with.
Speaker 7: You on all that, this whole discussion, like you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, But at the end of the day,
Speaker 7: I was, yeah, but I'm speaking to the niggas that
Speaker 7: really are doing this ship, they really are in the
Speaker 7: field seeing this ship, that really are trying to basically
Speaker 7: make some music that they know that other niggas like
Speaker 7: them in other places that are doing the same ship
Speaker 7: and they are seeing the same ship and that are
Speaker 7: going through the same ship can relate to mm hmmmmm.
Speaker 5: Else about.
Speaker 1: We actually need to be talking to the fans and
Speaker 1: telling the fans, how can y'all stop having a taste
Speaker 1: for something that none of y'all want to get murdered fans,
Speaker 1: none of y'all want your loved ones to get murdered.
Speaker 1: None of y'all want to go to jail. So we
Speaker 1: need to talk to the fans to say what work
Speaker 1: do y'all need to do to stop having a taste
Speaker 1: for this and wanting this because I want of y'all.
Speaker 1: Brunt up a good point about artists who want to evolve. Man,
Speaker 1: they got allist who want it, but I know you
Speaker 1: know this scream. They got alldists who want to evolve,
Speaker 1: But they be like, man, my fans ain't gonna want
Speaker 1: hear nothing.
Speaker 5: You're true everything that tried that, they won't won't want it.
Speaker 1: They won't won't want to say right them people like
Speaker 1: I be proud of Jeezy. You heard me, I'll be
Speaker 1: proud of Jezy, Like, man, look at Jeez involved and
Speaker 1: even the music. And then you got.
Speaker 5: People that Jeez already solid five of fan base, though,
Speaker 5: like that's gonna they growing age. He getting too now,
Speaker 5: like we all in the same We all got them
Speaker 5: looking at that like, let go bro, were all going, Bro,
Speaker 5: you still got that jeezu right here with us. We're
Speaker 5: going We're going up, all of going up together. He
Speaker 5: ain't trying to get no new fans.
Speaker 3: I think I think it's personal choice too, because I
Speaker 3: feel like Dirk has evoll like crazy, like Dirk has
Speaker 3: chose to have all and he'll still spit this ship show.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Dirk is still a young nigga.
Speaker 1: Dir Yeah, that hard. He trying to be dirt dirt.
Speaker 7: He finessed a little bit more with the words so
Speaker 7: it doesn't sound as harsh.
Speaker 2: And that's that's an art though.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the.
Speaker 7: Day, the message is still the same for the most part,
Speaker 7: Like you know, he had all my life and you
Speaker 7: know he had like other positive songs, but he's still The.
Speaker 1: Music is changing anyway, though.
Speaker 5: I think niggas like d one and got a hold
Speaker 5: to this ship because the temperature music has actually changed.
Speaker 5: The versus niggas ain't even on that no more. A
Speaker 5: lot of niggas coming away from all that, all that
Speaker 5: ship though, the result of it, they seeing the real
Speaker 5: time result.
Speaker 1: Out of a we said, we believe in God. I
Speaker 1: know y'all y'all feel how y'all feel about the Bible.
Speaker 1: But in the Bible, which I had here, in the
Speaker 1: Bible Proverbs eighteen and twenty one, it says there's life
Speaker 1: and death in the power.
Speaker 5: They had a smart nigga who wrote the motherfucker puts
Speaker 5: some good ship and nothing.
Speaker 1: Man. Look, don't don't get me started with that. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying it was just the interpret It's like, it's
Speaker 1: a nigga, p It's some smart people, bro, people who
Speaker 1: whoever thought were supposed to be slaves and ship they
Speaker 1: were smart, bro. You said, the people that wrote the Bible,
Speaker 1: let me finish this. Let me finish anybody who thought
Speaker 1: that we supposed to have been slave, we're supposed to be
Speaker 1: less than because of the color of our skin. They
Speaker 1: were smart people. They strategized that, right. The people who
Speaker 1: wrote the Bible didn't think the people are supposed to
Speaker 1: be non fuck not fucking damn people. They wrote the Bible.
Speaker 1: The people that thought were slave, it's skipped to them
Speaker 1: right right about the slave masters. Like the people in this.
Speaker 5: Country, whoever thought of the first thing, like, let's go
Speaker 5: get some niggas over there, all right, whoever thought of
Speaker 5: that was that smart?
Speaker 1: Europeans? What was that smart? I know you got to say,
Speaker 1: yeah that was smart. I'm asking you on some on
Speaker 1: some business Stuff're gonna say, yeah, that was smart. I'm
Speaker 1: asking you devilish man.
Speaker 5: Okay, But does definitely sometimes be smart? Does devilish ways
Speaker 5: sometimes go into a smart way? Don't they be strategic
Speaker 5: and thought out? Playing to trick niggas?
Speaker 1: Do that happen? Yes? Let me asking some questions. Do
Speaker 1: that happen? Can't? Can you achievingly put a person be
Speaker 1: a genius, mischievous person, clever, evil genius? Can you be
Speaker 1: an evil?
Speaker 5: Okay? And the evil ship? Can can take the world
Speaker 5: to where it is now? And we are less than still?
Speaker 5: We are everything, We kill our own people, we have
Speaker 5: we we have a sense of we have a ship
Speaker 5: that you're trying to fix up. You're talking about music
Speaker 5: that's already been fucked up from back before music and
Speaker 5: befolk anything.
Speaker 1: When the first nigga first.
Speaker 5: Said I'll tell you where they act, sir, the first
Speaker 5: nigga did that, that's the same mentality that's going on now,
Speaker 5: just elevating because it's on the internet. Now, it's all
Speaker 5: the same ship, right, So that couldn't have been strategic. Okay,
Speaker 5: So these same motherfuckers who was in And I ain't
Speaker 5: trying to be no woke niggas, so y'all don't don't.
Speaker 5: Don't God damn sitting down at me. Them same niggas
Speaker 5: who was back before the bout mm hmm. I mean
Speaker 5: folks labor them the nigga wrote about. Do you think
Speaker 5: a nigga wrote about like you who wrote about the people.
Speaker 1: Who wrote the Bible brought They were people who were
Speaker 1: influenced like God literally spoke through them. And I who
Speaker 1: know them words, who know them, who know them? Like
Speaker 1: what they're doing? What the document said? Though everything has
Speaker 1: they have computers back then? What kind of documentary?
Speaker 7: Look thelyphics in the fucking tombs in Egypt?
Speaker 6: So where is the ship from the hieroglyphics?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Y'all know how many biblical
Speaker 1: all the facts that are all that exists in this world? Cool,
Speaker 1: I'm not no geologists. I will definitely absolutely let me
Speaker 1: say this. What are the what are the where's the blood?
Speaker 1: What a blood line? You know?
Speaker 4: Hold hold on?
Speaker 1: You know the blood line like the blood line like
Speaker 1: no matter.
Speaker 5: However, however this ship goes, we're gonna know who Malcolm
Speaker 5: missed great great great great great great granddaughter is, great
Speaker 5: great great great.
Speaker 1: We gonna know where the blood line? Where the fuck
Speaker 1: is them?
Speaker 2: Folk?
Speaker 1: Blood line? Then how far when you go to ancestral
Speaker 1: dot com that stuff don't go back to the to
Speaker 1: the the Jesus dead, brother?
Speaker 4: What that ship?
Speaker 1: That? So you don't so you just say people didn't
Speaker 1: exist back then?
Speaker 4: That's what you think.
Speaker 1: We can't prove it. I got you, got.
Speaker 5: You up, so hold on, hold up, holdok.
Speaker 1: Great great great Grandpa was a dinosaur.
Speaker 5: That's no, no, no, you're right by what you're saying.
Speaker 5: But let me make let me make this okay. So
Speaker 5: we don't know who the kid folks is. How the
Speaker 5: fuck this story lasted long?
Speaker 1: If it ain't the truth, it ain't gonna last that long. Brother.
Speaker 1: So if I'm your brother, that's the truth. And if
Speaker 1: i'm your brother son and your son brother son and
Speaker 1: son brother son and son.
Speaker 5: Brother son, ah, that is lasting. So what what Jesus
Speaker 5: last name was? Where the fuck the rest of the
Speaker 5: CHRISTI is.
Speaker 4: A brother, Hey bro, hey bro?
Speaker 1: Whoa my name? Hey bus? The type of ship. But
Speaker 1: come on, what the fuck the rest of the Christ?
Speaker 1: Because a lot of you're looking at him right here.
Speaker 1: You're looking at him right here with all name is Christ, Sir,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, no, no, no, your last name, maate, whatever you
Speaker 1: think it is. Oh my god, you know, hey, my
Speaker 1: real last name Augustine, Like that's what it said. But
Speaker 1: that's the slave d that's somebody that slept with my
Speaker 1: great great great grandma. I'm saying, who, look, bro, that's
Speaker 1: a that's funny, that's hilarious. Real you're looking at it, bro,
Speaker 1: we all decended.
Speaker 7: I'm seriously interested. Okay, So my two questions and that's.
Speaker 1: Why I can't have no opps because I'm looking at
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it, like, bro, what I look like
Speaker 1: having an app when we was all made from the
Speaker 1: same creator. You're gonna tell me you my out because
Speaker 1: you from the other block down the street. That makes
Speaker 1: you my opp man, you create all that comes from
Speaker 1: the same ship that I told you.
Speaker 5: They put us in the pot back in the day
Speaker 5: to make you hate anything that look like you.
Speaker 1: You envied, hated that. So how do we break the cycle?
Speaker 1: Who's gonna be the first nigga to try to do that.
Speaker 1: You're looking at it all the way and the first one,
Speaker 1: it's so many people that's been doing this. Even if
Speaker 1: you touch, you're gonna touch. You're gonna touch a hundred
Speaker 1: out of thousand.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's good.
Speaker 5: But at the end, I can feel like because because
Speaker 5: you you, you're a powerful nigga. Like I fuck with you.
Speaker 5: I fuck with you before I even you know. I
Speaker 5: don't agree with everything you say because you get a
Speaker 5: nigga business a lot, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: that's your business. But I still agree with you when
Speaker 5: you be in nigga's business. But I just know what
Speaker 5: come with that ship like and how niggas could look
Speaker 5: at it different than how you.
Speaker 1: What you're trying to push out. But funk all that.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying is at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: I know what the is.
Speaker 1: You were talking about a lot of ship. I'm still
Speaker 1: the rest of the crisis. You're a smart nigga.
Speaker 5: When certain ship makes sense, a nigga nigga be like, damn,
Speaker 5: think about that.
Speaker 1: And I respect. This is what I respect about this platform.
Speaker 1: Number one is that everybody is on here being themselves.
Speaker 1: You the dude, who you're gonna say something that you
Speaker 1: know I couldn't have pitched neither one of them saying
Speaker 1: that just now, but you saying it, I'm like, he
Speaker 1: ain't trolling, he being real. Then when Jig come with
Speaker 1: hold on Deed, like, I feel like this about you
Speaker 1: know what you're saying and how this is da da da,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, damn, Jay, gonna hit you with that
Speaker 1: reality that you can't deny it. You're gonna say something
Speaker 1: funny that's real, scream gonna come with the man. I
Speaker 1: see both sides of the corn with everything. I see
Speaker 1: both the diplomat and I respect that. And then when
Speaker 1: people see man d one man, that dude, that bro
Speaker 1: he he look, I don't agree, but but he he
Speaker 1: he won hundred like he really stand off. And what
Speaker 1: that does is is people gonna watch this at home
Speaker 1: and be like, man, I can't knock none of them
Speaker 1: because we seeing black people unify because they choosing to communicate.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's facts, right, absolute.
Speaker 1: Shit right, big fact.
Speaker 3: One thing that Bank is saying though, that is very
Speaker 3: very very very important.
Speaker 2: He portrays it the way that he does that we
Speaker 2: should be.
Speaker 3: Able to ask questions about anything about a religion, about
Speaker 3: this and that, and the third we should be able
Speaker 3: to ask questions without it just being this is what
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 5: That should make one hundred percent uh, Like you never
Speaker 5: found a contradiction like reading the Bible.
Speaker 1: I have found contradictions reading the Bible. I have found contradictions.
Speaker 1: And the contradictions that I found was mainly between the
Speaker 1: Old Testament and the New Testament. So the Old Testament,
Speaker 1: like the first part of the Bible, the Old Testament
Speaker 1: thick too. They had stuff that man, they had a
Speaker 1: lot more killing, They had a lot more behavior that
Speaker 1: was being like permitted. They talking about, look you know
Speaker 1: the way we wrop for I have two full too.
Speaker 7: There was a lot of stuff in there that that
Speaker 7: is not up to part with the standards that quote
Speaker 7: unquote Bible people trying to preach.
Speaker 5: Who goes like this, I don't want to say this,
Speaker 5: And I said, I'm trying to get canceled, but I'm
Speaker 5: fini gone and said, who wrote the first babble?
Speaker 1: No? Really, ship who wrote the first? About the people
Speaker 1: who wrote the first bout King James or something? Right,
Speaker 1: that's not the first. That's not the first Bible that
Speaker 1: there's all these translations and I see what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: When you get the King James version and then you
Speaker 1: get this translation, and this translation with people end up
Speaker 1: being like it's like yo, So you mean to tell
Speaker 1: me somebody different took this whole book and wrote it
Speaker 1: the way they wanted it to be. That's is yes,
Speaker 1: But the other part of that is that's not a period.
Speaker 1: That's a comma, yes, comma. But what they wrote and
Speaker 1: the different translations, a lot of times them translations was
Speaker 1: just to fit the language of that time in that place.
Speaker 1: So if you wrote that Atlanta version of the Bible,
Speaker 1: it'll be a whole bunch of Maames and a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of how y'all talk out here in Atlanta, It'll
Speaker 1: be a whole bunch of that slang in it. If
Speaker 1: I wrote the New Orleans version of the Bible, they'd
Speaker 1: be like said, dog, you and me look, let me
Speaker 1: tell you what's y'am baby. So that boy Jesus you did,
Speaker 1: he had and I'll write it in New Orleans terms.
Speaker 1: That's what the different translations of the Bible story that
Speaker 1: almost tell me two different translations. You read that like
Speaker 1: the verse yeah, the versions, not the stories. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like the Old Testament and New Testament. There's two different writers, right,
Speaker 1: the Old Testament and you know what the New Testament is,
Speaker 1: bro The New Testament is from the time Jesus was born.
Speaker 1: That's all. That's the difference.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: But they said, but they said I thought they said,
Speaker 5: and I don't know how to say this. I thought
Speaker 5: they said in the first Old Testament, like it was
Speaker 5: forbidden for man to be a man.
Speaker 1: Right, forbidden for man to be a man, for man
Speaker 1: to be with man, Yes, sexually, and that's still forbidden.
Speaker 5: Okay, But they said, how do you how do you
Speaker 5: call these people? How do you call these people's the
Speaker 5: other gender without defending them? How you say that homosexual?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 5: They said, homosexual wrote the Second Testament right the New Testament?
Speaker 1: No, who said that? I never heard that Google.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 6: They're said King James wasn't sexual, I mean.
Speaker 1: Did not King James didn't write the New Testament.
Speaker 2: Well that's King There are King James versions. They are
Speaker 2: King James versions of the Bible flowing around.
Speaker 1: No, that's King James versus guess who wrote the Book
Speaker 1: of Matthew. I'm gonna give you one. Guess. You ain't
Speaker 1: gotta be a genius to get this. Guess who who
Speaker 1: wrote the book? Matthew wrote it. Guess who wrote the
Speaker 1: book of John John wrote it? But the hell, we're
Speaker 1: gonna let buddy put it out. I'm about to tell
Speaker 1: you I love it. I'm gonna tell you you know what, bro,
Speaker 1: this is, This is gonna go. This need to go viral.
Speaker 1: This How the same way I can go to Patchwork
Speaker 1: Studio and d One go record in Patchwork Studio and
Speaker 1: then I gotta take them recordings and I put them
Speaker 1: and I give them to my label. And by the
Speaker 1: time it come out, it's said, oh r C A
Speaker 1: Records put this out? How r C A Records put
Speaker 1: this out? But that means hold, I mean that r
Speaker 1: C A Records wrote d Ones rhymes? No, d one
Speaker 1: wrote them rhymes. He went the Patchwork studio to record him,
Speaker 1: and then he turned to me and r C A.
Speaker 1: But okay, here's my question.
Speaker 7: If that's the case, how did this nigga King James
Speaker 7: even get the authority to put out a version of
Speaker 7: the Bible And he was gay?
Speaker 1: Bro, you act like I know King James. I don't
Speaker 1: know what he's doing.
Speaker 8: What you talking about? I don't know, man, big fact,
Speaker 8: I don't know him. Man, y'all got all the.
Speaker 1: Smoke for me. Man, I'm around for a teacher and God, no.
Speaker 7: Bron me give me, give me your hand.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have to answer for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm vouching for Jesus sent you and ship.
Speaker 7: They said, all right, she said, no, get him on
Speaker 7: the phone.
Speaker 1: Nigga, you're looking at him.
Speaker 6: Have you ever seen twelve years of slave?
Speaker 1: I've seen. I've seen less than thirty movies my whole life.
Speaker 1: I don't I'm all, I ain't seen it.
Speaker 6: You've never seen twelve years of slave?
Speaker 7: You need, like when you leave here, you need to
Speaker 7: go watch that so you can understand like where we're
Speaker 7: coming from.
Speaker 1: With this ship. Because nigga, you told me.
Speaker 7: That twelve years of slave basically explains the slavery ship,
Speaker 7: the Nat Turner Rebellion, and how the colorless people took
Speaker 7: the Bible and and and preached it to us because
Speaker 7: we weren't a lot of us weren't able to read
Speaker 7: and like fully comprehend and made us think that the
Speaker 7: Bible wanted us to be enslaved.
Speaker 6: I'm not supposed to be.
Speaker 9: I'm just saying I's one word fact, he said, sir.
Speaker 5: Everything that said that he was supposed to do one't right.
Speaker 5: They said niggas supposed to be with one bitch. That
Speaker 5: shit don't feel right, and nobody laughs.
Speaker 1: I'm just being real. That ship don't feel right, okay, bro,
Speaker 1: even though we do it.
Speaker 5: Don't feel no hormor for men like you know in
Speaker 5: other countries they niggas, Hey, man, you you're strongest. How
Speaker 5: many kids you have? Many songs you had? He had
Speaker 5: seventeen songs, his song having seventeen songs. Our name is
Speaker 5: last and forever. We're making tribes that nigga might got
Speaker 5: one son or a dollar like, but your name and.
Speaker 1: Your name gonna die sixty years. You over with. I
Speaker 1: about to tell you no, no, no, I got a good
Speaker 1: I got a good answer for this.
Speaker 5: Let me say this once. Do you think that that
Speaker 5: could relationship? How they view relationshipw they put relationship in
Speaker 5: the Bible is to contain us from being as deep
Speaker 5: as we would be, because you know, niggas gonna have kids. Okay,
Speaker 5: cockybines ore, the cockubines are the cockubines have ten to
Speaker 5: think about it, we can produce, bro, So just think
Speaker 5: about if you had ten wis you gave all them
Speaker 5: ten balls?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a scientific fact that melanitic people are extremely
Speaker 7: more fertile than colorless people.
Speaker 1: How powerful are you, bro? But how powerful we even
Speaker 1: if we did have way more of us on the earth.
Speaker 1: If we don't know how to get along with each other,
Speaker 1: and if we don't love each other, and if we're
Speaker 1: still out here hate, that's why, no fact, that's why
Speaker 1: it all all was a plan.
Speaker 5: We're gonna tell these niggas on one bitch, and we're
Speaker 5: gonna let y'all turn against each adge in case y'all know, y'all,
Speaker 5: I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: Just all a part of a big eleborate scheme. And
Speaker 1: see the system is designed, right, you turn into an activist,
Speaker 1: Go ahead, I'm listening.
Speaker 5: No, but I believe that like like that won't blame
Speaker 5: niggas because I've already been retarded before too.
Speaker 1: I'm just being real.
Speaker 5: I've already been fucked up in my head too, thinking
Speaker 5: that the way I was thinking was correct.
Speaker 4: I don't know. God, oh for real?
Speaker 1: Yeah, God will make you believe in God, you can't see.
Speaker 1: Huh No, I believe it gotta be something. It's something.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what it is. It's called fate.
Speaker 1: How you make your money outside of here? I don't
Speaker 1: make all right, all right, so hard a question question.
Speaker 1: So how would y'all make y'all money? I know we
Speaker 1: do similar things. So I know when you get booked,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You get your deposit up front,
Speaker 1: you get your back right, it's still take faith for
Speaker 1: us to feel like you're gonna drop that back and
Speaker 1: off when I put up to the venue. It's still
Speaker 1: take faith because I had to fly all the way
Speaker 1: out to that city. You heard me, I had to fly.
Speaker 1: I'm about to be booked in, of all places, I'm
Speaker 1: booked in South Dakota on Thursday, Dallas tomorrow, South Dakota Thursday,
Speaker 1: and Tallahassee on Saturday. Right, I got faith that they're
Speaker 1: gonna all have that back end when I get there.
Speaker 1: But before I get that back in, I still gotta
Speaker 1: fly out there with the faith that they're gonna deliver
Speaker 1: on it. We'll have faith when it comes to other
Speaker 1: people in this world, dirty crooked, shisty people in this world,
Speaker 1: we'll have faith that, oh he's gonna he's gonna drop
Speaker 1: that back and da da da. But when it comes
Speaker 1: to God, man, how I know that that's even real?
Speaker 4: How I know?
Speaker 6: No, no, no, hold on, because nobody's questioning.
Speaker 1: God or God these stories.
Speaker 7: We're talking about the story Jesus ship, That's what we're
Speaker 7: talking about.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about God questioning if Jesus existed.
Speaker 5: And what I'm saying, I don't say Jesus in exists,
Speaker 5: but I say I believe Jesus exists. But I believe
Speaker 5: like Nipsey could have been Jesus. Niggas like that could
Speaker 5: have been a Jesus.
Speaker 1: If we talk about special nigga, I'm just saying special
Speaker 1: niggas that he had to start of Jesus in them.
Speaker 1: But I'm justus.
Speaker 5: I'm saying like I'm saying, like I'm not something Jesus.
Speaker 1: Like we can make that nigga so popular that he
Speaker 1: lived forever. Martin Luther King, That's yeah, that's Jesus. No,
Speaker 1: it's just a popular story. It's not a popular story.
Speaker 7: That was No, he's using Black is using the Tupac
Speaker 7: popular story as a parallel for this Bible ship because
Speaker 7: at the end of the day, if.
Speaker 5: We if we said, if we said, if we rode
Speaker 5: the Bible today, a whole world everybody mind go black.
Speaker 1: You want write the Bible, your hero, your hero is
Speaker 1: gonna be Jesus. Well, look here's the thing.
Speaker 5: If you don't know no other hero. Long, Hey, this
Speaker 5: was the son of God. He was a prophet. This
Speaker 5: nigga Kanye was. He went against everything, he went all us.
Speaker 5: He's the smartest man ever. He's You're gonna make him Jesus.
Speaker 5: Now we're saying this is Jesus. Now, I'm not saying
Speaker 5: this is what happened. I'm saying this is a possibility
Speaker 5: if we're thinking outside of the box.
Speaker 1: So listen. So for the people who feel like that,
Speaker 1: first of all, that's a great point that you bring them,
Speaker 1: absolutely great point. And so for the people who want
Speaker 1: to spend their whole life down here being like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, brother, it just ain't enough evidence for me,
Speaker 1: or I don't get it, it ain't My thing is
Speaker 1: like this. You can choose to do that, and when
Speaker 1: you die, let's see what happened to you. I'm choosing
Speaker 1: to believe in Jesus that when I die we're gonna.
Speaker 2: See what that's your faith in your religion.
Speaker 3: I think he's just speaking like in my family, I
Speaker 3: got Buddhists, Christians, Muslims, all great people at heart that
Speaker 3: I love, and they're good people. I don't think that
Speaker 3: they're gonna fry when they leave here because they don't
Speaker 3: choose one religion. I think that's what you're kind of getting. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we are as an African. I know the europe of
Speaker 3: religion existed way even like this is what right there?
Speaker 5: I feel given college ship, But that feels like you
Speaker 5: know how, bro, It's just like I couldn't be with
Speaker 5: my wife if I had questions.
Speaker 1: I can't do nothing with doubt. So your wife had
Speaker 1: never made you mad or made you have to be
Speaker 1: like doubt her? No, your wife ain't never doubt her no, No,
Speaker 1: So that means so she's perfect. I ain't gonna say
Speaker 1: she perfect, but she ain't never doubted her.
Speaker 5: She did things to make me a sense, make me
Speaker 5: want to punch your ass out everything, And I've never
Speaker 5: doubted how she felt about me.
Speaker 1: Never. So how could you doubt how God feel about you?
Speaker 10: When God, Jesus, Jesus.
Speaker 1: Is God and human phone to you according to the
Speaker 1: word of God, the Bible word.
Speaker 7: But that's the word about the Bible is the word
Speaker 7: of man's interpretation from these niggas that you said God
Speaker 7: spoke to.
Speaker 1: For y'all act like God had pencil and was just like,
Speaker 1: all right, give me, let me. I gotta know, how
Speaker 1: can we believe it?
Speaker 5: Did y'all see the Book of Claire believed y'all see
Speaker 5: the Book of Clarence saying that I ain't see that Niggavanessa.
Speaker 5: He the same nigga, Like, oh they heal a nigga.
Speaker 1: He looked at the Jesus.
Speaker 5: He became a Jesus Vanessa, right, Like, but you always
Speaker 5: got a knockoff.
Speaker 1: You got the real lou Bitony, you got the knockoff. Okay,
Speaker 1: so so you got the real Jesus. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: Jesus is the real Jesus. Why we can't say Jesus
Speaker 1: the real Jesus? Who the real Jesus is? But still.
Speaker 3: He won so completely real, Like I read all of
Speaker 3: these scriptures talked about him, to be honest, and I
Speaker 3: live by songs.
Speaker 2: I love songs. It's like poetry to me.
Speaker 3: Right, But when I was a teenager, I went into
Speaker 3: an actual church and asked a lot of questions to
Speaker 3: the head of that church. And when them questions became
Speaker 3: a little too like, he asked a lot of questions. Son,
Speaker 3: some of this stuff you're just gonna have to take
Speaker 3: as faith. That's not what I choose to do. I
Speaker 3: want to ask questions. I want to know. If you
Speaker 3: don't know, say you just don't know. So I'm not
Speaker 3: knocking anybody's religion. I just know that, Deezel, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: be I wouldn't I wouldn't be in business with them
Speaker 3: if they weren't God fearing people. I understand what you're
Speaker 3: saying because some of my aunties are the same way
Speaker 3: Jesus and Christ.
Speaker 2: And this is the belief. And I respect that you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But the God, the God coalition, God isn't within all
Speaker 3: of us, right, so we know that God is within
Speaker 3: all of us.
Speaker 2: This is part of the problem. Religion can be somewhat separating.
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: We're having a good conversation, but it's like everybody's they're
Speaker 3: gonna believe regardless.
Speaker 5: No, no, don't get it. But but work for me,
Speaker 5: don't work for I don't get what you don't get
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, I actually appreciate what y'all are saying because
Speaker 1: because watch this, I see how God is working in
Speaker 1: this moment, because they got so many people at home
Speaker 1: watching this, Like man Jay's saying what I be thinking.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, d One ain't no pastor, right,
Speaker 1: but since d One is a man of God and
Speaker 1: d One is a Christian and he ain't shy about that,
Speaker 1: when d One come here, it's like, well, we finish
Speaker 1: ask d One all these questions that we got. And
Speaker 1: I respect that. And so for me, I'm knowing that
Speaker 1: like you, as much as I do know the Word
Speaker 1: of God and as much as I rep for it,
Speaker 1: that there's also a point to where I recognize that
Speaker 1: there's people who do this for a living. It's called
Speaker 1: people who study apologetic apologetically you.
Speaker 6: Know, how to.
Speaker 1: Do you think that? Okay, I'm in a different religions?
Speaker 1: Is it how many different religions I'm saying this? You
Speaker 1: think in the world? Do you think they're less blessed
Speaker 1: that they don't believe in Jesus? That's a great question.
Speaker 1: Do I think they're less blessed? No? I don't think
Speaker 1: that they are less blessed because God is so big
Speaker 1: and so powerful and so mighty that God even tell
Speaker 1: us to pray for and have love for our enemies.
Speaker 2: No, we're talking. We're talking specifically about about specifically. What
Speaker 2: he's saying is that's a metaphor.
Speaker 1: Even if somebody don't know saying, you keep telling about God.
Speaker 5: I'm saying, listen, people can get to God different ways,
Speaker 5: right in their religion.
Speaker 1: People don't.
Speaker 5: People never said that they didn't believe in God because
Speaker 5: they didn't believe in the bum. If somebody is a Buddhist,
Speaker 5: do I think that they can still be blessed the
Speaker 5: same exact way as you believing in Jesus the same
Speaker 5: exact way.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, you know what saying.
Speaker 7: So it's not I think what the issue is. I
Speaker 7: think just from me saying your listen.
Speaker 1: So what's the difference. So, so you call it Jesus,
Speaker 1: you say Jesus is God. That's that's your God, all right, like.
Speaker 5: Mohammad, not go ahead, it is it is.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's you saying.
Speaker 3: You're saying, my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, that's your belief,
Speaker 3: your religion, that's what it is. And Islam they will say, Mohammad.
Speaker 3: Buddhists will say, Buddha, you see what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: it's that's that's the but. But but I think where
Speaker 3: the confusion comes from is these are all prophets, and
Speaker 3: prophets deliver the message from the most high correct. So
Speaker 3: that's kind of where we're coming from.
Speaker 5: Talk the good, the bad, gang whoever talked, just like politicians,
Speaker 5: whoever said, okay, let's say what Jesus said. Jesus got
Speaker 5: he got in people, Muhammad got in people whoever in,
Speaker 5: Buddhists got their people, whoever.
Speaker 6: You know, we have a room a line tomorrow exactly.
Speaker 1: So it's like so, but it's one god man man say.
Speaker 1: But when you asked me this question, brother, you asked
Speaker 1: me a question specifically about can people who don't believe
Speaker 1: in Jesus be blessed the same way people who do
Speaker 1: believe in Jesus can be blessed? That's his heck, you said,
Speaker 1: you start enemies, because I got to say, that's that's
Speaker 1: how much like we we confused being elevated with being blessed. Brother,
Speaker 1: the devil can elevate people. The devil could blessed people.
Speaker 1: Oh man, no, no, you're going to de elevate people.
Speaker 1: So if you're asking me, can people still be blessed?
Speaker 1: So so do you think people believe in Jesus with
Speaker 1: the devil burda all we doing? No? No, no, listen, no no,
Speaker 1: I don't all we're doing right, were rolling the dice
Speaker 1: right now because on Earth were looking at man, look
Speaker 1: I'm alive, I'm healthy, I look good. I'm alive, I'm healthy,
Speaker 1: I look good. I'm blessed. You blessed. We all blessed
Speaker 1: out and we could all say I'm blessed because of
Speaker 1: this person. I'm blessed because of this person. Right. All
Speaker 1: were doing down here is we rolling the dice for
Speaker 1: after we die and we ain't here no more. We
Speaker 1: rolling the dice based on what we believed in and
Speaker 1: what we believe the souci our blessings was. That's going
Speaker 1: to determine what's next for us after this because at
Speaker 1: that point it ain't no guessing. All we're doing while
Speaker 1: we're down here is what you're doing with your head
Speaker 1: and your bet on you are you are bet if
Speaker 1: the universe is blessing you, Let's see what the universe
Speaker 1: do you when you die, I'm gonna see what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna see what God and Jesus Christ do for me
Speaker 1: when I die.
Speaker 7: Because Yeah, because I think, first, let me say when
Speaker 7: i'm let me first, let me go back to what
Speaker 7: I was getting ready to say before everybody else was talking.
Speaker 7: I think where the disconnect and this conversation is coming
Speaker 7: in at is because I think that you're like misconfusing.
Speaker 7: That's not a word, but I think that you're like
Speaker 7: misunderstanding the fact that as far as God is concerned,
Speaker 7: the big head man over all of this shit, we're
Speaker 7: all on the same page about him. But where we're
Speaker 7: having a discrepancy at is the whole Jesus thing, the
Speaker 7: whole Bible thing, the whole interpretation thing, the whole way
Speaker 7: that it was presented.
Speaker 1: To the people when it did come out.
Speaker 7: As opposed by the people that like put it out
Speaker 7: as opposed to it being like a personal presented as
Speaker 7: a personal interpretation of each one of these people. It
Speaker 7: was presented as the one and only Gospel, and that's
Speaker 7: not the case.
Speaker 1: So if y'all don't claim to be Christians, let me
Speaker 1: ask you a question. Have any of y'all ever been
Speaker 1: blessed by a sermon that a Christian passed the spit
Speaker 1: for sure?
Speaker 2: Yeah, religion, but religion.
Speaker 5: If you're gonna listen to my bab ball, you're gonna
Speaker 5: get blessed by some of that ship.
Speaker 1: That's just it's whatever you feels in your spirit.
Speaker 2: Bro, I've been to, I've been to the mosque, have
Speaker 2: been blessed by.
Speaker 1: Exactly i'd have been to, and I'd have been places
Speaker 1: that can't even understand, but can see the spirit moving
Speaker 1: in these people.
Speaker 5: Couldn't even understand. When I went to Africa one time,
Speaker 5: I didn't even understand the people saying, but I felt
Speaker 5: that right, you get what I'm saying. So it's just
Speaker 5: what it is. And I don't know who they was
Speaker 5: talking to. What I feel like is whatever, if you
Speaker 5: believe in what you believe in all the way, that's
Speaker 5: what makes you get to where you're trying to go.
Speaker 5: Like the belief system. You get what I'm saying, I believe, like,
Speaker 5: because who's to say, Yeah, what's what?
Speaker 1: How do you believe? How do you believe?
Speaker 2: What's what?
Speaker 1: Hold on?
Speaker 5: Hold on?
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 7: So basically, what I want to know is for me personally.
Speaker 7: Do you feel like you can carry on a real
Speaker 7: conversation about God without involving Jesus?
Speaker 1: Can I do it all the time? Yes? That this
Speaker 1: is This is God right here. What I was about
Speaker 1: to say was basically what you just asked me, which
Speaker 1: is when I'm sitting with Minister Lewis Farakhane, who I
Speaker 1: sat with in his hotel room before gone, and listen
Speaker 1: to him speak and preach, right, Yeah, half of half
Speaker 1: of his message is about Jesus. Half of what he
Speaker 1: be talking about is about Jesus.
Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of a lot of people
Speaker 3: and other religions. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, a lot
Speaker 3: of people and other religions, the story of Jesus Christ
Speaker 3: and Jesus Christ and what Jesus Christ represents and pay Homastard.
Speaker 2: I'm not disrespecting that at all.
Speaker 1: Like a nigga. That's just like a.
Speaker 5: Nigga being in this city, right, and he sposed to
Speaker 5: be the biggest nigga from the East west side. I'm
Speaker 5: the bigger nigga from the East side. I mean, acknowledge you,
Speaker 5: but ain't gonna acknowledge you. I'm acknowledge you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, he was doing it. Yeah, yeah he was
Speaker 1: a prophet. I will too, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like he is the he is a big nigga's
Speaker 6: but he's the biggest nigga from his side.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's the truth. Way they saying. Yeah, but we
Speaker 5: were doing that too over here. Like they what they
Speaker 5: try to do, they try to block out. So all
Speaker 5: these spirituals people from our country, brother, from African ship,
Speaker 5: what they they just is not it's just not pre
Speaker 5: is just not talk to us on how strong our
Speaker 5: people was too.
Speaker 1: And like what those religions was, Yeah, with those regions.
Speaker 5: It's just not talk how these people has healed ship,
Speaker 5: has cured blindness, cured age, cured illness, cured all type
Speaker 5: of ship.
Speaker 1: It just ain't been publicized the way this is.
Speaker 5: And the reason just because this book is more popular,
Speaker 5: this book is more popular.
Speaker 1: This is what we believe the most.
Speaker 7: And the reason that our teachings from our people wasn't
Speaker 7: publicized is because if we would have been taught our
Speaker 7: teachings from our people, we would no longer feel the
Speaker 7: need to be oppressed.
Speaker 5: Exactly. We would feel that. That is so because we
Speaker 5: walk around calling each other king and queen.
Speaker 2: What they said, what they said?
Speaker 1: Because King Queen, Grand Rising, King Grand Rising.
Speaker 2: What you're saying is right, But it ain't the King Queen.
Speaker 2: What they said, what they say, it is what they say.
Speaker 3: It is as a black person, as a black person,
Speaker 3: right if you go into great authors John Herrick Carton,
Speaker 3: so far and so forth, as a black person, if
Speaker 3: you really knew your history and where the fuck you
Speaker 3: came from, you can't even reson they on a particular plane.
Speaker 3: You understand what I'm saying when you say, how did
Speaker 3: it happen for Bank? It happened for Bank. In his journey,
Speaker 3: he just became wiser, You know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 3: connected with God, he became wiser.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I can't move or.
Speaker 3: Think like that no more. He's the same person that's
Speaker 3: at heart, the same person always loved. But because he
Speaker 3: went through his experiences, is like, I can't just be
Speaker 3: the same Like you said what you said, you was
Speaker 3: retarded at one point. He's still the same person at heart,
Speaker 3: the good person that we love, but he's wiser now.
Speaker 1: So there understanding of how life works exactly right up
Speaker 1: right up with all due respect, because this is this
Speaker 1: that that it's that crack right here, this whole talk.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of kids who come from royal
Speaker 1: blood lines. They daddy was a billionaire and the kid
Speaker 1: is out there wilding out, drugging it, tugging. They know.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of that. There's a lot of people
Speaker 1: who with that what's the old phrase, Oh you're the
Speaker 1: daughter of a Oh we know, y'all a wireless ones.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Oh, for real, your daddy
Speaker 1: a whole past the blessing people, getting people saved and
Speaker 1: all this stuff on Sundays helping bless people. But his daughter,
Speaker 1: who comes from his bloodline, is out there on some
Speaker 1: whole other type of stuff.
Speaker 3: So just like you can be real quick, just like
Speaker 3: you can be led on the righteous path, you can
Speaker 3: be led astray exactly.
Speaker 1: And I feel like hip hop at this point is
Speaker 1: what's leading our people more than even church when you
Speaker 1: think about it, bro, they got more like the twenty
Speaker 1: five and under generation. They are listening to rap music
Speaker 1: way more than they're listening to sermons or going to
Speaker 1: church or anything like that. So let's be honest about
Speaker 1: the power of rap music, and let's be honest about
Speaker 1: what sermons are being spit via rap music. That's a
Speaker 1: metaphor for what messages are being glorified in rap music,
Speaker 1: because that's the bible for a lot of people selling
Speaker 1: me twenty five, and that's their bibles Apple Music and Spotify.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question.
Speaker 7: So outside of like the rap music, you don't think
Speaker 7: that like TV, movies and YouTube have an even more
Speaker 7: major effect.
Speaker 1: Not a more major effect? Do they have an effect?
Speaker 1: I believe all media has an effect. I in my
Speaker 1: lifetime Swedish have not encountered a type of media that
Speaker 1: has more of an impact than that rap.
Speaker 5: That rap got the vibration, dude, there, it got different vibration.
Speaker 1: That beat. That ship you want the drugs to do?
Speaker 5: So to your ada, I can't listen to certain ship now,
Speaker 5: I still be counting. Make you want to go back
Speaker 5: into some Turn that ship off, turn on some I
Speaker 5: need getting take because I go there in that certain ship.
Speaker 1: They got yo.
Speaker 5: Right then't gonna go on your timeline.
Speaker 1: You just like that subject.
Speaker 2: It's the most powerful thing.
Speaker 1: So we agreeing on that head red rong, Yeah we
Speaker 1: know it. Very ship turned me up. Pitch what I
Speaker 1: thought the nigga said.
Speaker 4: Is up.
Speaker 1: So since we agreeing on that, I'm just saying, let's
Speaker 1: go one step past agreeing on that, and let's say, dame,
Speaker 1: whoever made the Red Room song, whoever made that song.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, all right, whoever made that making them songs,
Speaker 1: and whoever consuming them songs? How do we reach them
Speaker 1: to where we teach that brother? Hey, brother, you could
Speaker 1: do better than that. Though you can still make his songs,
Speaker 1: you can still be a rapper, but you could do
Speaker 1: better than that, my brother, Like, I know.
Speaker 5: You going like that, brother.
Speaker 7: Because because let me, let me just speak to the
Speaker 7: brother that made that song. We're not gonna call no
Speaker 7: names or whatever, but the brother that made that song
Speaker 7: is one of the brothers that I was speaking about,
Speaker 7: like earlier.
Speaker 1: In this episode that basically.
Speaker 7: Has turned his life experiences into his art form to
Speaker 7: make his living. And at the same time, even though
Speaker 7: he's rapping about certain things that he's seen or possibly
Speaker 7: maybe allegedly done, or you know whatever.
Speaker 1: He's still showing.
Speaker 7: Through that same music his evolution at the same time, like, Yeah,
Speaker 7: this is what goes on, this is what happens, this
Speaker 7: is what I'm talking about. But I'm also talking about
Speaker 7: this jet that I just bought. I'm also talking about
Speaker 7: this fucking seventy million dollar check that I just got.
Speaker 7: I'm also talking about how I put all of my
Speaker 7: brothers in position to be able to take care of
Speaker 7: themselves and their families. I'm also talking about how I
Speaker 7: fucking did what I needed to do, got my business
Speaker 7: straight so that I could become a US citizen and
Speaker 7: also be able to go back and forth to my
Speaker 7: home country and also show my family like there's a
Speaker 7: better way.
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Like it's still, it's still it's a mixture of both,
Speaker 7: but at the same time, like.
Speaker 6: Niggas are still speaking on relatives.
Speaker 5: Nigga gotta be a damn food to see a nigga
Speaker 5: around around and jets and all this ship and not
Speaker 5: big cause feel like a nigga doing that to me.
Speaker 1: I get what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I give what you're saying about the people that don't know.
Speaker 5: But you know, I get that's a flaw of mind
Speaker 5: because I can do ship. I feel like anybody can.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, That's a flaw when you
Speaker 5: think because you could be special, you can think just
Speaker 5: because you consume shit in a certain way or your
Speaker 5: perspective in a certain way that everybody should think like that,
Speaker 5: that's really some bullshit.
Speaker 1: So I look at it like, well, you know, a
Speaker 1: nigga ain't doing this ship that they saying they doing it.
Speaker 1: Nigga doing this right, Folks getting because because we got
Speaker 1: people right now fighting big charges that we know, they
Speaker 1: got aid, they got money to the sea coming home,
Speaker 1: and they fighting for their freedom.
Speaker 7: But this is some alleged ship from fucking fifteen years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we ain't got no hard heart, okay, But but y'all,
Speaker 1: but y'all not from where I'm from. So y'all thinking
Speaker 1: I'm talking about who y'all think I'm talking about who
Speaker 1: from here? Y'all? Not from where I'm from with somebody
Speaker 1: who I'm super plugged with who as of right now,
Speaker 1: he's not coming home for the rest of his life,
Speaker 1: you hear me. And if he ain't commit that, then
Speaker 1: he need to be freed asap, you hear me. So, y'all,
Speaker 1: not from where I'm from to say all nah, ain't
Speaker 1: no way, because hey, this is somebody that was on.
Speaker 1: This is somebody that and they got other people they got,
Speaker 1: they got other people that they did. Time that's doing
Speaker 1: time that come on man like people that was up that.
Speaker 1: It's like, man, you was up while you were still
Speaker 1: doing that.
Speaker 6: So do you do you do you believe?
Speaker 7: Do you feel like do you feel like a nigga?
Speaker 7: Do you feel like a nigga? A nigga shouldn't be
Speaker 7: able to make a mistake.
Speaker 1: Some niggas is.
Speaker 5: Ill who they is though, these niggas who you know,
Speaker 5: have you know these nigga ain't really doing.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, I think we all entitled to make mistakes.
Speaker 1: I think we also got to recognize the consequences for
Speaker 1: our mistakes, for sure. So that's my answer to your question.
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting there acting like, can't nobody make a mistake? Man,
Speaker 1: I make mistakes every day, you hear me, And the
Speaker 1: next time I come on here, Lord Willing, we could
Speaker 1: talk about all that, because I don't never want people
Speaker 1: to try to hit a man of God or somebody
Speaker 1: that's trying to just make this world better with them.
Speaker 1: I think he perfect or he acts like he don't
Speaker 1: never know what. We all entitled to make mistakes, but
Speaker 1: we got to recognize, Sweeten, that depending on what kind
Speaker 1: of mistake it is, it got a different type of
Speaker 1: consequence that come along with it. And that's all I'm
Speaker 1: saying is a lot of these kids that's making mistakes
Speaker 1: because of what they're being influenced by, by the streets,
Speaker 1: by the music, by whatever. They're not getting a second
Speaker 1: chance because the consequence they're come along with their mistakes.
Speaker 1: Ain't no shaking back from that, you feel me, And
Speaker 1: that's I'm fighting for them at the end of the
Speaker 1: day because I done seen some people make mistakes that dang,
Speaker 1: they ain't get a chance to shake back from it.
Speaker 1: And that's and a real wise person learns from other
Speaker 1: people's mistakes. So we need to start teaching people how
Speaker 1: to look at the mistakes that's been made in society
Speaker 1: and be like, oh you like that person, Oh you
Speaker 1: like them, Well, look at some of the mistakes they
Speaker 1: made along the way and learn from that so you
Speaker 1: could be even better because of that. What do most
Speaker 1: parents tell their kids? I went through this stuff so
Speaker 1: you ain't got too And that's as og is a
Speaker 1: hip hop culture. That's or people that made it and
Speaker 1: hip hop because we done made it at this point
Speaker 1: to a certain level, that's our responsibility. I went through
Speaker 1: this stuff so I could teach y'all a better way
Speaker 1: to not have to make some of the mistakes.
Speaker 5: I mean, I get it, man, but why you gotta
Speaker 5: shake your heads? Ain't listening the niggas are trying to
Speaker 5: do that. They feel like you a hater and a
Speaker 5: nigga being. I ain't a nigga fueshing.
Speaker 1: No nigga, right. I tried that ship. I tried to
Speaker 1: be the nigga. So learn through me.
Speaker 5: If you can't see that, this nigga is a different
Speaker 5: nigga that elevated itself, learn through my actions. I can't
Speaker 5: preciate that to the nigga. I don't even do what
Speaker 5: you want to do. Just stay the fuck out my life, yo.
Speaker 5: That's just how I feel. I don't you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. I can't if you change through through through.
Speaker 1: Like I can't.
Speaker 5: Like when I say certain ship, I'm just telling you
Speaker 5: I speak from experience.
Speaker 1: I speak from me. I speak from ship I've been through.
Speaker 5: That's when I say certain ship, it might sound like
Speaker 5: I'm sounding like talking about somebody else. I'm speaking about
Speaker 5: just environment and ship that I see. So if you
Speaker 5: learn from that, cool. I ain't trying to push it
Speaker 5: on them.
Speaker 1: Nigga. Sounds like what you d one sound like you're
Speaker 1: trying to push on a nigga. You get like and you.
Speaker 5: Feel away cause niggas don't get it. That's what makes
Speaker 5: That's what That's where I'm disconnects coming in the.
Speaker 1: Feel the way part. The feel the way part, Dog,
Speaker 1: you be talking some real stuff, doog the feeling. I
Speaker 1: feel a way because somebody don't get it. That that's camp.
Speaker 1: I don't feel a way because I'm not finna give
Speaker 1: up my joy. You heard me, like, I live a
Speaker 1: blessed life. I'm happy overall. I feel a way when
Speaker 1: I see the consequence of somebody not getting it like
Speaker 1: that makes me hurt. Man, Like, Man, it's people I
Speaker 1: can't call because they ain't hear with us no more
Speaker 1: that I feel like I could have did more. And
Speaker 1: since I lost my best friend like that, since I
Speaker 1: lost my student g money that was Fredio band rapping
Speaker 1: partner to that, And I feel like in my heart, man,
Speaker 1: what if I would have just been a little more
Speaker 1: persistent That stuff siting with me though, Like that stuff
Speaker 1: sitting with me in that it hurt. It hurt, but
Speaker 1: it ain't got me walking around here feeling a way
Speaker 1: in general, because at a certain point, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: give up on you. I'm just gonna redirect my energy
Speaker 1: to the next person that's like, well, maybe God put
Speaker 1: me in your life for me to make a difference
Speaker 1: with you. I ain't giving up on you, but I
Speaker 1: got to redirect my energy because if I stay focused
Speaker 1: on wanting to just reach out. I was like that
Speaker 1: when I first started rapping. I was like, I want
Speaker 1: to have the impact Lil Wayne had on my city,
Speaker 1: New Orleans, but just in a positive life. That's what
Speaker 1: I told myself, and I got frustrated when I realized
Speaker 1: the streets respect me. The streets is all like, man,
Speaker 1: we see D one and d want a dog on
Speaker 1: the microphone. He could spill with the best of it.
Speaker 1: But they're not receiving my message the way they loving
Speaker 1: with Wayne putting out that loving would do get BG
Speaker 1: putting out there, loving with bird Man, Julie Turk, the
Speaker 1: hot boys putting out there. And it used to get
Speaker 1: to me until I realized, Man, I just gotta redirect
Speaker 1: my focus because they got people over here in some
Speaker 1: different spaces. There's loving what I'm putting out there, and
Speaker 1: I'm Lil Wayne for them. You heard me and I
Speaker 1: had to learn, like, oh, don't get mad at these people.
Speaker 1: Always be here form. But at a certain point my
Speaker 1: energy is now focused on the people, the soil that's fertile.
Speaker 1: If the soil is infertile over here, that means I
Speaker 1: wasn't meant to reach you, but Jane was meant to
Speaker 1: reach you. Scream gonna reach you. You heard me, Like
Speaker 1: God got other soldiers, that's gonna reach you. Bank gonna bank,
Speaker 1: gonna reach you because banked and did some stuff that
Speaker 1: I ain't did. I grew up around it, but Bank
Speaker 1: was probably doing it, so he gonna talk your all right,
Speaker 1: But so I didn't been through that before to well, no, man,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't be feeling the way if cats
Speaker 1: don't get it. But what I'm not finna do.
Speaker 5: But what I'm saying, you know, you know your passion
Speaker 5: sometimes can get in a way of like that shit
Speaker 5: can bring emotions. I'm just being real with you, Like
Speaker 5: I used to be the same. Don't don't get it
Speaker 5: fucked up. I've been the same way. Like listen, bro
Speaker 5: I used to be around people and I still do,
Speaker 5: like call people and talk to them how I see
Speaker 5: them and they don't see theyself that way. So it's
Speaker 5: like I'm always got something to say because I see
Speaker 5: them as perfect.
Speaker 1: Like you can be this what the fuck?
Speaker 5: Like I'm speaking to them like they ain't and they
Speaker 5: may be doing their best, but don't speaking to them
Speaker 5: like you bushing because I see something else.
Speaker 1: I had to realize that you.
Speaker 5: Get on saying and that's what you're saying with hip
Speaker 5: hop and with the world, you saying, I see this
Speaker 5: shit can.
Speaker 1: Be better, but y'all just not getting it. And I
Speaker 1: used to do that too personally to my.
Speaker 5: People, called like, man, you bullshit, like excuse me, you
Speaker 5: ain't why you ain't drop five videos?
Speaker 1: Why you whatever? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, a nigga taking
Speaker 5: and constructive in the season, as in many nigga always
Speaker 5: got something around. Ain't good enough a nigga. But you
Speaker 5: don't understand the way I see you, And that's your
Speaker 5: that's your disconnect.
Speaker 1: That's it, bro. You don't understand niggas don't understand the
Speaker 1: way you see.
Speaker 5: This ship and and and you come out sometime as
Speaker 5: you get great word, you get what I'm saying though
Speaker 5: it come off as.
Speaker 3: But I respect him because I know we read him
Speaker 3: the same way. I know he means, well, right, it
Speaker 3: ain't it ain't like.
Speaker 2: Like we said. We know it's not cloud chasing.
Speaker 3: We know it don't come from a place of nowists
Speaker 3: or nothing like that. We know he means well, but
Speaker 3: it's just that you have your Everybody has their own
Speaker 3: personality in here and the way that we come off,
Speaker 3: people are gonna react to that personality trait however they
Speaker 3: want to react to it.
Speaker 2: That just is it.
Speaker 1: Don't change for that.
Speaker 2: Living your truth for sure changing.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you how it's viewed. Like, nigga, that's courage.
Speaker 1: That's that's courage what you.
Speaker 5: Do like because it's gotta be a kount of a
Speaker 5: lonely space because certain niggas don't want to. Like, Bro,
Speaker 5: I ain't a nigga, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, niggas, that's what God
Speaker 5: calls you to do. Do that fucking nigga feelings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, He put me here to be a disruptor, bro,
Speaker 1: and just to disrupt stuff that don't sit right in
Speaker 1: my spirit because I'm knowing like this ain't a God
Speaker 1: and all right here, brother, like this this ain't it, man,
Speaker 1: And for me to not say nothing hurts more than
Speaker 1: for me to say something and have some people looking like, man,
Speaker 1: why you saying something? So I gotta be I gotta
Speaker 1: be strategic about how I say what I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: and how I do what I'm gonna do. But that's
Speaker 1: the problem, bro, Like they always act like if you
Speaker 1: want some positive stuff or some godless stuff or some
Speaker 1: righteous stuff, they always act like, you gotta tiptoe around
Speaker 1: everybody's feelings. But everybody that's doing evil and pushing out negativity,
Speaker 1: they don't tiptoe around nobody feelings. They like, I'm a
Speaker 1: step of you, her man, and I'm saying it's bold,
Speaker 1: And I wish a nigga would say something about how
Speaker 1: I'm doing what I'm doing. That ain't fair. You don't
Speaker 1: get to be like that. But then the man of
Speaker 1: God or the woman of God gotta tip who around
Speaker 1: this world and just say, okay, let me not offend
Speaker 1: nobody where they do that right, And that's what's happening
Speaker 1: right now, is saying you need to say your shit louder,
Speaker 1: a little bit louder than them loud. I'm making righteous
Speaker 1: noise I'm making righteous noise. You heard me. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be ad. I'm making all that noise righteously because y'all
Speaker 1: used to, hey, guys, please do the right thing. God
Speaker 1: loves you all. Come on, please please go to church
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Y'all want that. Y'all used to that word
Speaker 1: that ain't how no, and I could go and I
Speaker 1: could make all that righteous noise and still not be
Speaker 1: on something. I hate you, I hate you. I hate
Speaker 1: you because it ain't I hate you, it's I love
Speaker 1: you that It's the same convo you have when you're
Speaker 1: telling your partner, man, I see better for you. Man.
Speaker 1: That's all that is. And I mean, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, ain't no script to none of this, bro.
Speaker 1: So it ain't no ain't no script, you know, it
Speaker 1: ain't no like so, yeah, I'm gonna do this, then
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that. This ain't no calculated planning, bro.
Speaker 1: You just move, You move when you move. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: feel me in a genuine way too. Yeah. And it's
Speaker 1: like I see it making a difference. I see it
Speaker 1: making a difference. But sometimes all the world see is, oh,
Speaker 1: two rappers ain't like what you said, so they feel
Speaker 1: this type of way, but they're not seeing all the
Speaker 1: impact that I'm making, bro Like, and I'm seeing it
Speaker 1: and it's not just me, bro Like. Everybody should be
Speaker 1: doing this. You ain't gotta be a rapper to be
Speaker 1: doing this. Whatever filled you in, man, if you're a lawyer,
Speaker 1: if you're a teacher, if you're an accountant, if you're
Speaker 1: working at the at the grocery store, if you're working
Speaker 1: at the gas station, you got opportunities to spread light
Speaker 1: and spread God's message in what you're doing. And they
Speaker 1: got opportunities to where you could see like, oh, what's
Speaker 1: going on right here? Ain't right? Politics? We need more
Speaker 1: good politicians, man, instead of people just saying, man, all
Speaker 1: politicians crooked because most of them is. So we need
Speaker 1: the people that's like, well, I'm gonna be the one
Speaker 1: that's not a crooked politician, man. And God gifted me
Speaker 1: to get into that realm and to be a politician
Speaker 1: just so I could be the change that I wanted
Speaker 1: to see. I didn't have to be no rapper. Man.
Speaker 1: I graduated college like I was good. I was teaching,
Speaker 1: I was coaching basketball, and I was about to start
Speaker 1: my own businesses Man, I just so happened to be
Speaker 1: able to man when I put sixteen balls together and
Speaker 1: give people goosebumps and make these crowds. That made a
Speaker 1: Tupaca Mama, miss a Phoenix a call, say, you remind
Speaker 1: me of my son with your passion when you're on
Speaker 1: the microphone. But she saw me perform when I was
Speaker 1: in college. It make people feel away, you hear me.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, shoot, I could get in there. I
Speaker 1: love rap, I love hip hop. I get in this
Speaker 1: game to make a difference, you know, And I could
Speaker 1: just be in the church all the time with it.
Speaker 1: What do you wonn't you just go there? Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: be in a church, and then the next day I'll
Speaker 1: be at a college. And then the next day, if
Speaker 1: I got a we had a conference or convention, I'm now.
Speaker 1: And the next day if i'm a big facts, I'm there.
Speaker 1: And then if I'm on breakfast club, like two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: I'm at breakfast club. And then like, there ain't no
Speaker 1: script to what I'm doing, bro, ain't no script to
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. So it ain't no box to what
Speaker 1: I'm doing either, And I does it all as the
Speaker 1: same dude with the same passion I don't get around
Speaker 1: other people and be like so, who I gotta be
Speaker 1: around them to make them like right with that? You
Speaker 1: know that? Yeah?
Speaker 5: You at all time from the back, I think where
Speaker 5: I fucked up at I just accepted that this ship
Speaker 5: fucked up, you know what I'm saying. Like, you know,
Speaker 5: a nigga used to be want to want to be
Speaker 5: an avigated and try to tell people. I just don't
Speaker 5: accept it, like, man, this shit fucked up.
Speaker 1: Else when I got big fact.
Speaker 2: And I think that's still comes from two different places.
Speaker 3: Like I think you just kind of like sometimes you
Speaker 3: see some ship and it's so disheartening that you're just
Speaker 3: like full just.
Speaker 1: Try and ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but in your actions alone.
Speaker 3: Like Killer Mike was telling so many people, and your
Speaker 3: actions and alone and our actions alone.
Speaker 2: It speaks volumes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you still everybody still have an impact by
Speaker 3: leading by example. Sometimes that's more than just you can
Speaker 3: talk to somebody and they just you talk falling upon
Speaker 3: death ears.
Speaker 2: You did what I'm saying so facto.
Speaker 1: I was with Killing Mike two weeks before he won
Speaker 1: his Grandma Award. I went on my first tour with
Speaker 1: with Killer Mike and Young Drow. Jason Geter was my manager.
Speaker 1: I had just stopped being a middle school teacher. One
Speaker 1: of my music videos went viral. Jason Gitter started managing me.
Speaker 1: That was a dream come true because I really looked
Speaker 1: up to Ti a lot. Kip was locked up at
Speaker 1: the time, So me, Young dro Killer Mike. This's twenty eleven, y'all, Like,
Speaker 1: I've been doing this for that long, same dude. We're
Speaker 1: on the tour bus way back then, dro being Drove,
Speaker 1: being crazy, being funny, being a clown, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Killer Mike sitting up front, always dressed in
Speaker 1: all black, just giving out game. You heard me? Whoever
Speaker 1: down to sit at the front of the tour bus
Speaker 1: with him? Killer Might just finna fill up with game
Speaker 1: all day. I was like, sure, that's gonna be me.
Speaker 1: So the whole tour, I'm just up there josing with him.
Speaker 1: You hear him and just running it, listening to stories
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And we've seen each other. A
Speaker 1: couple of weeks before he won his Grammy, I was
Speaker 1: at Stink on his studios doing an interview. Ran into him.
Speaker 1: Me and Killer Might got music together and everything, and
Speaker 1: he was just like, man, I see. He was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: the way you do what you do is different than
Speaker 1: how I do what I do. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, we're on the same team. We're doing it,
Speaker 1: you know, were both in this thing to make this
Speaker 1: space better for all of us. And I'm cool with that.
Speaker 1: I'm cool with not doing it the way somebody else
Speaker 1: do it or whatever, because I could reach people that
Speaker 1: somebody else can't reach and it's just not enough. Y'all know.
Speaker 1: I went on the whole tour. Y'all know who maccaboy is.
Speaker 3: No Macklemore Grammy, White Grammy Award winning and meckle Ball.
Speaker 1: Grammy and Water winning macle right right from Seattle. So
Speaker 1: when he won all them Grammars for that song thrift
Speaker 1: Shop and Same Love and Can't Hold Us all them songs,
Speaker 1: I was on tour with him, right. That was right
Speaker 1: after the ground Hustle tour. We did fifty two city
Speaker 1: tour together. It's twenty twelve, and on that tour, this
Speaker 1: is a white suburban audience at every show. I'm a
Speaker 1: black dude from the Ninth Wall East Side of New
Speaker 1: Orleans hereman, I ain't never participated in the street stuff
Speaker 1: but that's all I come up around, so I know
Speaker 1: it very well. And I'm just an urban dude, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Every night when the tour started,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here like, I don't know how much relate
Speaker 1: to these people that's out here to see Macklemore. I
Speaker 1: do not know what songs to do. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: my playlist like what song's gonna reach them. I figured
Speaker 1: out a way on that tour to be a version
Speaker 1: of myself that I knew was gonna appeal to all
Speaker 1: them suburban white fans that was at them shows. And
Speaker 1: after a while, after like two or three shows, I
Speaker 1: figured it out right, And so every night I was
Speaker 1: able to win them over enough to where they was
Speaker 1: rocking with me. And it wasn't until I got home
Speaker 1: back to New Orleans off of that tour that I
Speaker 1: felt empty. My pockets was full of money. I was
Speaker 1: definitely full pl you heard me, But I felt empty
Speaker 1: because I was like, de that wasn't even you in
Speaker 1: front of them crowds every night, you turned into what
Speaker 1: you knew they would like instead of being you and
Speaker 1: being like if you like it, you like it. If
Speaker 1: you don't like it, oh well, And that ain't feel good, Bro,
Speaker 1: when I got home from that tour, that ain't Some
Speaker 1: niggas that shit feel good. Though.
Speaker 5: Some niggas look at that shit as I'm just acting correct.
Speaker 5: We can't see just because you got a passion for news,
Speaker 5: you grew up, you love news. Some niggas looking at
Speaker 5: this shit as a hustle. We gotta look at it
Speaker 5: like that. Frospect it too, because a lot of niggas
Speaker 5: they're like, bro, I'm just in this ship.
Speaker 1: This is what it is. Y get my money and
Speaker 1: get that's and and that's what. That's what allows you
Speaker 1: to be a glorified prostitute because you're easy to toss.
Speaker 1: If your soul could be bought for a coast, you're
Speaker 1: a glorified prostitute at that point. If if you like man,
Speaker 1: I say whatever on his microphone, I know about to
Speaker 1: reach millions of people, but I'm gonna say whatever on it.
Speaker 1: Even if I don't reach millions, I'm about to reach
Speaker 1: boofoo people on his mic and I say whatever, knows
Speaker 1: you pay me for it. You're glorified prost.
Speaker 7: But it's not even I don't even think it's so
Speaker 7: much that a nigga will say anything for the money.
Speaker 6: But I think what Black was saying.
Speaker 7: Is that like, it's niggas out here that don't look
Speaker 7: at this ship like I have a passion and I'm
Speaker 7: gonna overthink everything that I say to make sure it's
Speaker 7: writing and this and that, blah blah blah. They're looking
Speaker 7: at it like I'm about to tell my story, I'm
Speaker 7: finna get my money, and I'm goin to get up
Speaker 7: out of this ship. Not necessarily like I'm gonna fucking
Speaker 7: sell my soul or no ship like that, but they're
Speaker 7: looking at it like it's a business transaction, not like, Okay,
Speaker 7: this is some ship.
Speaker 6: That I really just want to do. Whether I get saying.
Speaker 5: He's saying with the microphone, give you a morally responsibility,
Speaker 5: That's what he's saying.
Speaker 1: That's what he's sayings saying.
Speaker 7: Bro, what I'm saying is niggas don't it's niggas out
Speaker 7: there that don't look at it like that in it,
Speaker 7: but they're not just gonna say yeah, but they're not.
Speaker 5: Just like on this ship right here. I want to
Speaker 5: say so much ship on this podcast that I don't
Speaker 5: say because I know I have a moral responsibility, Like
Speaker 5: I wanting to say so much ship when I be
Speaker 5: in different mindset and different like like today, I was
Speaker 5: saying certain ship that you know, but it is what
Speaker 5: it is.
Speaker 1: You know, you've got a responsibility. Look you do, though, But.
Speaker 6: What I'm saying is what I'm I guess what I'm
Speaker 6: trying to say is I don't think y'all.
Speaker 10: Are getting you saying, but I'm just inut that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's niggas that true enough when the mic turns
Speaker 7: on you have a moral responsibility. But it's niggas out
Speaker 7: there that look at this as a job and as
Speaker 7: a check and they feel like as long as I don't,
Speaker 7: as long as I'm not irresponsible with my personal morals,
Speaker 7: then it's not a big deal.
Speaker 6: You see what I'm saying, Like whatever whatever is important to.
Speaker 1: You, as long as I don't give.
Speaker 6: A fuck, like like the.
Speaker 7: Ship that I stand for and the ship that i'm
Speaker 7: that I believe in, as long as I don't go
Speaker 7: against that for me, whatever else I say on here
Speaker 7: is whatever.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah.
Speaker 7: But I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say no like
Speaker 7: weirdo ship or nothing like that.
Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, me telling my story.
Speaker 7: If that offends some people, then oh, well I'm about
Speaker 7: to tell my story because this is what I know
Speaker 7: and I'm about to get my money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that's telling your story. Part. These people don't
Speaker 1: be telling their story you say it earlier. They be
Speaker 1: telling it partner story who in the studio with them,
Speaker 1: who they want to impress, and they be like, man,
Speaker 1: this what the streets want here, or this is what
Speaker 1: people want to hear. So I'm gonna do that when
Speaker 1: you're telling your story. I was with styles P last
Speaker 1: night from ain't that creativity? Though? Ain't that creativity? Ain't
Speaker 1: that creativity? If I can take, if I can take,
Speaker 1: it's called line, it's called line. No, I don't think so.
Speaker 5: If you talk about if we think, if we know,
Speaker 5: you're right, but you're saying but at the end of
Speaker 5: the day, it all boil down to creativity. It's like
Speaker 5: I can take stories that I heard and put them
Speaker 5: into words and makes.
Speaker 1: You feeling a lot of niggas can't do that. They're
Speaker 1: still telling right. Okay, So let's take creativity and couple
Speaker 1: that with moral responsibility, and you pour that creativity with
Speaker 1: the moral responsibility that you said, we we should have
Speaker 1: on the mic, and that makes beautiful art because creativity. Plus, hey,
Speaker 1: I got a moral responsibility. So I ain't gonna I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna spend this story in this direction. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: spend it in this direction that makes for more only responsible,
Speaker 1: beautiful art. And we've seen so many artists be able
Speaker 1: to do that that it's just like, that's what we
Speaker 1: need more of. Man. We got to show people that
Speaker 1: peace and positivity is profitable. People think that only toxic entergy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people think that only toxic negativity is profitable. Now we
Speaker 1: gotta show them peace and positivity is profitable. And let
Speaker 1: me show you how. I'm trying to show people how
Speaker 1: right now, bro in addition to rapping. So look, I
Speaker 1: put my album out, my latest album, and put it
Speaker 1: out in December. It's called From the Hood to Harvard, Right.
Speaker 1: I let my fans name their own price. I ain't
Speaker 1: putting on streaming platforms till till February. Hand it out
Speaker 1: for two months on my website d one music dot com,
Speaker 1: dee the number one music dot Com. Let my fans
Speaker 1: go in there and name their own price. I don't
Speaker 1: want to tell you how much I made. I kind
Speaker 1: of told myself, I might show I might show them
Speaker 1: in the screenshot or let them see the website. Brother,
Speaker 1: it is so well by doing that that it made
Speaker 1: me realize I got to teach other artists how to
Speaker 1: build a connection with their fans the way I've been
Speaker 1: able to build with mine. Because when I gave the
Speaker 1: fans the choice, man, name your own price, you heard me,
Speaker 1: But you can come stream it, but get it directly
Speaker 1: from your boy, get the art from the artist. I
Speaker 1: seen something that, Like, it's still blowing my mind to
Speaker 1: see how well that went right. They got people that
Speaker 1: paid up to a thousand dollars for my album. People,
Speaker 1: not one person, people paying a thousand dollars for the
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars, for the one hundred dollars, even the
Speaker 1: people paying a twenty piece. All that thousands of people
Speaker 1: paying naming their own price for the album. And I'm
Speaker 1: seeing this meanwhile, I'm putting on streaming platforms A couple
Speaker 1: months later. Yeah, a lot of people streaming it. But
Speaker 1: Apple and Spotify, man, them, people pay us a third
Speaker 1: of one penny, one third of one penny for every
Speaker 1: stream we get. The math ain't mathing. You heard me
Speaker 1: so It's showing me that if I have seen how
Speaker 1: successful I could be building building my own fan base,
Speaker 1: building a real connection by being myself and showing that
Speaker 1: when I give my fans the option, they show up
Speaker 1: like that. I gotta now show other artists how to
Speaker 1: do that, show them how to do that. I just
Speaker 1: put a children's book out. It's an anti bullying children's book.
Speaker 1: It's a hip hop children's book called David Found His Slingshot.
Speaker 1: I used to get bullied a litt bit when I
Speaker 1: was in kindergarten. Right, eventually me and my bully became
Speaker 1: best friends. I talk about it in here, how my
Speaker 1: real name David, about how I Found my Slingshot. Now
Speaker 1: y'all know the story from the Bible of David and Goliad.
Speaker 1: David defeated Golia using a slingshot. So basically, this book
Speaker 1: tells people everybody has a slingshot in life, and everybody
Speaker 1: got glias or like ops, you know, like enemies that
Speaker 1: they that they facing a lot of times. It's not
Speaker 1: even people, it's stuff like racism, oppression, you know, depression, anxiety, poverty.
Speaker 1: The way to defeats your golias is you gotta find
Speaker 1: your sling shot, just like David did in the Bible.
Speaker 1: My sling shot is hip. Man. That's why I'm in
Speaker 1: this game. I see that I'm anointed when I'm in
Speaker 1: this space, whether I'm speaking or rapping, I see that
Speaker 1: I'm using my sling shot to defeat the glias in
Speaker 1: this world. So, whether it's being a rapper and being
Speaker 1: able to write a children's book, being a college professor,
Speaker 1: dropping albums, doing shows, speaking public speaking, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: show people their man peace and positivity is profitable. People
Speaker 1: need to see that because a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: want to rap about this negative stuff, but they feel
Speaker 1: like that's what I gotta do to make And I
Speaker 1: know they feel like that. I done been in the
Speaker 1: studio with them and they're like, Man, you know that's
Speaker 1: what the people want. Here, man, we sitting here talking
Speaker 1: off the mic, talking about talking about some real stuff
Speaker 1: off the mic. We sitting here, Jonson her here and
Speaker 1: we having fun, We laughing, We talking about real We
Speaker 1: talking about Man, I just bought some property up here
Speaker 1: on the West Side. Oh for real, Man, I just
Speaker 1: bought all public complexes in Louisiana. Dah dah lah. We
Speaker 1: talking about all this soon. As soon as the engineer'll
Speaker 1: be like, hey, the beat reading you come spitch your
Speaker 1: verse nine that person getting the booth and kill eighty
Speaker 1: five people in there. Son rap about straight murder, straight
Speaker 1: red rum. He hear, And I'm like, wait, that's the
Speaker 1: same dude that was just out here with me. Were
Speaker 1: talking about some peace and positivity and economic empowerment. But
Speaker 1: they feel like, man, that's what people want from me. Man,
Speaker 1: So when I get in that, I gotta turn into
Speaker 1: that and give people what they want. You're gonna give
Speaker 1: people what they want. They're gonna lead you to hell.
Speaker 1: You give God what he wants, it's gonna lead you
Speaker 1: to heaven. We gotta make a sure. Oh God want
Speaker 1: me to give these people and they want Look at Hell,
Speaker 1: you don't even believe that. You don't even believe that.
Speaker 1: I do believe that in some cases God wants you
Speaker 1: to get a people what they want.
Speaker 5: You think God, what I'm saying entertainer, I'm looking from
Speaker 5: an entertainer part of you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 5: God gave you that talent and you don't touch a
Speaker 5: certain crowd.
Speaker 1: Now, now you gotta sprinkle that growth in them.
Speaker 5: You can't just be the Snoop Dogg. Snoop Dogg got
Speaker 5: sprinkling it until you get out of it. You can't
Speaker 5: just you can't try to leap out this ship. What oh,
Speaker 5: I'm about to really flip the game on you. What
Speaker 5: if God was like, would I'd rather more than what?
Speaker 5: I would really prefer more than any of that is,
Speaker 5: if you wouldn't have started out on that path in
Speaker 5: the first place.
Speaker 1: So we're talking about snooping.
Speaker 2: But why but but but the reality is that they did.
Speaker 3: If he came up in Long Beach and this is
Speaker 3: what he came up in, and this is what he reported,
Speaker 3: that's his reality. He saw the world, and maybe he
Speaker 3: wasn't enlightening. That's what I'm saying. You could be led
Speaker 3: astray or you could be let in the righteousness.
Speaker 1: That's my personal So when it comes to when it
Speaker 1: comes to a man that, uh, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a tough example because I know you believe in political
Speaker 1: man for sure, you like we all need to be
Speaker 1: out here. I want to believe in it, but I can't.
Speaker 1: All right, you're married, check me out, check me out.
Speaker 1: So there's a good example for all three of y'all. Look, look,
Speaker 1: if you was out there, if you was out there
Speaker 1: cheating on your wife, y'all took to be faithful to
Speaker 1: each other, right, and if you knew that that was wrong,
Speaker 1: and if eventually it was like, Yo, I gotta make
Speaker 1: a change. Is it right to say, like, man, the
Speaker 1: best way to make a change is I gotta stop
Speaker 1: cheating cold turkey. I'm gonna stop cheating all that one.
Speaker 1: Let's say you have five side pieces, I'm dropping all
Speaker 1: five at once, all is it? Like? All right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do better. I'm just gonna have four side pieces
Speaker 1: that we're gonna decrease.
Speaker 5: Three now, I'm not tune them holes off our back
Speaker 5: like I need three damn. Get down to that, to
Speaker 5: the ace in the hole, getting down to the getting
Speaker 5: down to the man. You have aigga b you get.
Speaker 1: Down to one, bitch, bro, Bro, you know that the
Speaker 1: best way to change would be like man, I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta go cold turkey when it comes to this
Speaker 1: stuff to really change. And I just feel like in
Speaker 1: the rap game, we be content with like, Yo, this
Speaker 1: person at as bad as they used to. Can't agree
Speaker 1: with that? What you mean? I can't agree with that?
Speaker 1: You don't think it's confusing to people, because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, sometimes you glorify people all the time,
Speaker 1: you glorifying Or.
Speaker 5: I could go vegan, I couldn't just go straight vegan,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. I had to cut back
Speaker 5: on red meat first, then no beef, no red meat,
Speaker 5: then no chicken when pencanteary, and then vegetarian, then vegan.
Speaker 1: So I have the moving I have the patient myself.
Speaker 1: And you know what, it ain't as I'm sitting here
Speaker 1: talking because none of this ain't scripted in real time.
Speaker 1: It ain't none of our job to let me think
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 5: If I want to say, yeah, I gotta graduate to ship,
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's just respect the journey.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got it on the journey because I don't
Speaker 5: know if the vegon shit gonna make me sick or not,
Speaker 5: even though it's the best choice for me.
Speaker 1: But so, so I think I just figured something about
Speaker 1: your crack the code. I think so we gotta respect
Speaker 1: everybody journey. I totally agree with that. Here's where I
Speaker 1: might feel different than y'all when other people, masses of people, thousands,
Speaker 1: maybe even millions of people are a part of your
Speaker 1: journey because you are a public figure. At that point,
Speaker 1: I feel like we got to apply to principle to
Speaker 1: whom much is given, much is required. So maybe a
Speaker 1: dude that's like, hey, the only people being affected by
Speaker 1: my journey with my weight, I'm trying to lose some weight.
Speaker 1: The only person being affected by my journey is me.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go, you know, read me to okay,
Speaker 1: no pull okay, one step at a time. Eventually, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, it's just like
Speaker 5: you just said Jesus earlier, right Niga, when the chain
Speaker 5: listened to that, Jesus sending a note and you a
Speaker 5: nigga didn't never nigga got money, went on.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be casualties to this ship. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's fucking up to say, but it is
Speaker 1: on your journey, That's what it is.
Speaker 2: Because it's a tough reality.
Speaker 3: It's a tougher I know some of them think about
Speaker 3: let's think about that.
Speaker 1: Don't sit well with me though, but let's come with this.
Speaker 1: It's life.
Speaker 3: Life wouldn't be life, And if you're perfect, gonna come
Speaker 3: with some casual just think life.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't be life and that this ship with perfect.
Speaker 3: Just think about war, just the World War and reflect
Speaker 3: on it.
Speaker 2: It happened.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: There's some good come from war. On the back end.
Speaker 3: There's some people here and sometimes yeah, okay, sometimes they do,
Speaker 3: but it's it's a it's not something that I've accepted
Speaker 3: as this is how it has to be. But the
Speaker 3: reality is, this is how it is. That's what you're saying.
Speaker 1: So since we're at war right now inside of hip hop,
Speaker 1: were at war, man, we definitely at war. I'm just
Speaker 1: telling people pick a side. What you trying to hit
Speaker 1: them to? Come over him? Know what you're trying to do.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of people. You're right, some people get
Speaker 1: this side. And I realized that more people haven't picked
Speaker 1: the side. There's more people that feel like it's normal
Speaker 1: to be on both sides of the war. Let's cry
Speaker 1: when Nipsey Hustle get killed. Let's cry no beatter example,
Speaker 1: let's cry when young Dolgs get killed. But when he's
Speaker 1: alive and he's rapping about or involved in street beefs,
Speaker 1: we we're not opposed to it. We're not trying to
Speaker 1: advocate to get that stuff to stop. We're a record label.
Speaker 1: We're eating off of these beefs that he got, so
Speaker 1: we ain't trying to get him to stop that stuff.
Speaker 1: We ain't trying to intervene between him and whoever. His
Speaker 1: ops is like we letting that egg on, but then
Speaker 1: when he died.
Speaker 2: It is a touchy space entertainment.
Speaker 1: To me, though, maybe I say that.
Speaker 3: To you because you're strong, you're strong minded, you have
Speaker 3: strong you're strong minded. I'm telling you the majority of
Speaker 3: people outside.
Speaker 1: Well, we need this.
Speaker 5: Instead of preaching, instead of trying to get the repetens,
Speaker 5: we need to preach to people to get their mitrong.
Speaker 1: That's what I said. That's what I said. Yeah, not
Speaker 1: not the rap, but but that's gonna get you on
Speaker 1: to be No, you can do two things at once.
Speaker 1: This is not about beef. I don't want beef for
Speaker 1: no rep. I'm just telling yeah, yeah, I don't want
Speaker 1: beef for no rapper. But I'm also not finna bite
Speaker 1: my tongue to stuff that. It's like, hey, you could
Speaker 1: do better than that, brother, you could do better than that.
Speaker 1: You almost fifty years old. The nigga like, Bro, the
Speaker 1: fuck is this nigga and guess what and guess what
Speaker 1: they talking about? Be thinking like, fuck wrong with that
Speaker 1: nigga saying my name? So that's what it is. So
Speaker 1: just because ego.
Speaker 5: Like you, but who don't got ego on twenty twenty four,
Speaker 5: Well every man got an ego?
Speaker 1: Like, bro, the fuck is this nigga? Think you?
Speaker 5: Because once one nigga get away playing with you, that's
Speaker 5: when they you got a whole goddamn fuck bank campaign
Speaker 5: going on.
Speaker 4: Gotcha?
Speaker 1: Well, uh the part damn you had said something that
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, war, No, it was after war. Oh,
Speaker 1: people picking the side, all right, people picking the side.
Speaker 1: I think that more people have not picked the side
Speaker 1: because it's become normalized for us to just be lukewarm.
Speaker 1: And lukewarm is like I ain't all the way on
Speaker 1: this side or all the way on that side. I
Speaker 1: just kind of want to exist in the middle. And
Speaker 1: I know that we were not called to be lukewarm
Speaker 1: like that, but because that's the normal state of things
Speaker 1: all I'm really neutral, Yeah, neutral, neutral with stuff. My
Speaker 1: thing is like, at a certain point, reality gonna hit
Speaker 1: home for everybody to where you either on the receiving
Speaker 1: end of the negative side of this stuff, or you
Speaker 1: close to somebody who was on the receiving end of
Speaker 1: that negative side of stuff, and at that point that
Speaker 1: should be our wake up call, our light bulb moment
Speaker 1: to say, man, hold on, man, it's a different way
Speaker 1: that we could go about this. It ain't about canceling
Speaker 1: certain people. It ain't about saying I can't listen to
Speaker 1: hip hop at all. But it's a healthier way that
Speaker 1: we could create it and consume it. There's gonna be
Speaker 1: better for everybody in the long run. And we gotta
Speaker 1: have difficult conversations. What we have right now is difficult conversations, yo.
Speaker 1: And these difficult conversations get people. Man, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: people blessed by this. Man, I don't know. You know,
Speaker 1: you know how the internet is. If it ain't no controversy,
Speaker 1: it might not do the numbers did it do. If
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, that ball went on there and just
Speaker 1: when guns blazing, you know, calling this out and da
Speaker 1: da da. But the people that's gonna watch this stuff, man,
Speaker 1: this is the type of count vo that it's like
Speaker 1: the world need more of you, feel me, and that
Speaker 1: is how we ultimately grow. Because I don't believe that
Speaker 1: none of these people are evil. So anybody who's name
Speaker 1: I ever said, I would love to sit down with
Speaker 1: them now if they're like now, I don't want to
Speaker 1: sit down with you because you said my name. You
Speaker 1: might have made me look bad on in there. I
Speaker 1: don't want to sit down. All good, brother, I ain't
Speaker 1: tripping on that either. But ultimately, you wasn't just gonna
Speaker 1: respond if I sent.
Speaker 5: You a DM you ever seen somebody's name of you
Speaker 5: feel like I said that in the wrong context.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a that's a great question, in the wrong context,
Speaker 1: like after you look back in like, yeah, I should
Speaker 1: have said it like that. So when were talking about
Speaker 1: a few months ago, me being on Sway in the
Speaker 1: Morning and I mentioned Meek Mail, Rick Ross and Jim
Speaker 1: Jones name, I say it in a passionate way, and
Speaker 1: I said, I simply said, like, Yo, come on, brothers,
Speaker 1: I love y'all too much to not be honest with y'all, dude, Like,
Speaker 1: y'all could do better, man, y'all could do better than this,
Speaker 1: like the messages that's being glorified in this music, Like,
Speaker 1: come on, we could do better than this. Yo. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you this I don't think I said it
Speaker 1: in the wrong way. Right now, guess what's happening right
Speaker 1: now if you open your phone, DJ Academics is going
Speaker 1: at it with who meet Mill? And guess what. DJ
Speaker 1: Academics is basically saying the same stuff that I said
Speaker 1: to Meek Mill, going about it in a way that's
Speaker 1: like Act, like, Dog, you you really want smoked with me?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't want no smoke
Speaker 1: with me. I look at me as a brother. Every
Speaker 1: time I go play basketball, I wear his shoes, his
Speaker 1: Pulma shoes, and I gave out thirteen hundred pair of
Speaker 1: his shoes in my hood in New Orleans to bless
Speaker 1: people because I think that's fire. The prison reform stuff,
Speaker 1: I simply was approaching it like dog, I think it's
Speaker 1: confusing the people when they see that you're on this,
Speaker 1: but then you on something different. Right now, Act is
Speaker 1: saying the same thing, but the way he's saying it's like,
Speaker 1: do you really want to smoke with this man? Like
Speaker 1: you're trying to make him look like a clown, and
Speaker 1: like then, So the way I be going about stuff,
Speaker 1: I do know that I get passionate when I say stuff,
Speaker 1: and sometimes just that passion could make somebody say oh word,
Speaker 1: or you like you got that type of energy, or
Speaker 1: it seemed like nobody took it as disrespect. It seemed
Speaker 1: like the only people that responded shout out to me
Speaker 1: because me Can responded it and kept a hundred. He
Speaker 1: was like, I ain't gonna lie, brother. We do all this.
Speaker 1: We do the positive stuff, and we do the street stuff.
Speaker 1: He said that in his Instagram reply. He wrote it
Speaker 1: as a message for the public to see, put it
Speaker 1: on his story. I respected him being honest and just
Speaker 1: like I could call something out. I also supported me
Speaker 1: when he helped to get that uh that bill passed
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania a couple weeks ag when I posted that
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be public about saying you could do better,
Speaker 1: I gotta be public about sharing you on too, right.
Speaker 1: I was public about saluting Ross when he said, big
Speaker 1: joke just got killed. Come on, Memphis, let's put the
Speaker 1: guns down, Come on, Memphis, we could do better. I
Speaker 1: saluted Ross and went on Instagram and did a whole
Speaker 1: post about that. Not that many blogs picked that one
Speaker 1: up though, or they don't pick it up when it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: he showing love to them now. Jim Jones, Me and
Speaker 1: Jim Jones didn't text each other at this point. We
Speaker 1: ain't met in person yet. I was in Harlem yesterday.
Speaker 1: I would have loved to have met with him, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, So, no, to answer your question,
Speaker 1: that's a long way of saying, I don't think I
Speaker 1: just becoming at people sideways on some stuff. Do I
Speaker 1: think Ross came in me sideways in terms of his response, yeah,
Speaker 1: because he didn't even respond to what I actually brought up.
Speaker 1: He just went through, I'm just about to make fun
Speaker 1: of you and call you lil man and say you
Speaker 1: look like a fake roster and who are you you're
Speaker 1: trying to make You're trying to go viral on other
Speaker 1: people names. I think that was wrong.
Speaker 6: So can I ask you a question, like about the
Speaker 6: whole Meek situation or whatever?
Speaker 7: So how do you feel about when basically he was
Speaker 7: saying like you said, he was saying basically the same
Speaker 7: thing that you're saying, but it took like a personal
Speaker 7: connotation or.
Speaker 1: Whatever because he started talking about other stuff.
Speaker 7: But when he started saying, okay, Meek is supposed to
Speaker 7: be positive, he's doing street stuff, so now I'm going
Speaker 7: to get the reform. I'm going to try my hardest
Speaker 7: to turn him into the governor and get the reform
Speaker 7: thing canceled. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that. I think, academics, that shows
Speaker 1: me that you don't really have love for Meek Meal
Speaker 1: at the core of who you are, Academics, Like, you're
Speaker 1: looking at meet Meal as an hop like you want
Speaker 1: to get him in trouble. You want to get him canceled.
Speaker 1: You want him to lose a partnership that he has
Speaker 1: in his state to where he's doing great things. Don't
Speaker 1: want me to lose nothing when it comes to that.
Speaker 1: I want to celebrate that side of him even more
Speaker 1: and get him to lean into that type of side.
Speaker 1: That's a difference. Yeah, I just these people are not
Speaker 1: my apps, Like, they're not my opps at all. It's
Speaker 1: just like, man, but I feel it will be two sides.
Speaker 1: It's like, come on, man, Like, if it's two sides,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's better for all of us to have
Speaker 1: you lean into the good side.
Speaker 6: Yeah, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Like, I just feel like when it comes to that
Speaker 7: particular situation, when it goes left to the point of
Speaker 7: view saying that you're you're trying to get a movement
Speaker 7: shut down that's doing so much good and helping so
Speaker 7: many people, and you're trying to get him in trouble
Speaker 7: with these same people that are out them. Yeah, not you,
Speaker 7: But when you say that, you're trying to, like I said,
Speaker 7: get the movie and shut down that in turn is
Speaker 7: doing so much good and helping so many people, and
Speaker 7: get him in trouble with these people and these political
Speaker 7: figures that are helping him change the laws and helping
Speaker 7: him like make a better way for the people. I
Speaker 7: feel like that should remove your ability to speak on.
Speaker 1: Whether or not what you.
Speaker 7: Feel like he's doing is right or wrong. I mean, okay,
Speaker 7: I'm spinning it out. I'm saying, like, when the shit
Speaker 7: turns personal and when you start trying to like basically
Speaker 7: set up a nigga's downfall, then your conversation is invalid
Speaker 7: at that point because if you're saying, Okay, he shouldn't
Speaker 7: be doing both because he's trying to do something positive. Okay,
Speaker 7: leave it at that, But don't say, Okay, now I'm
Speaker 7: finna attack this nigga and try to goddamn stop all
Speaker 7: this good shit that he's doing because I feel a
Speaker 7: personal way about him, and now I'm about to try
Speaker 7: to go after everything that he has going on. Your
Speaker 7: conversation means nothing at that point because it's some personal
Speaker 7: shit and not from an objective point of view.
Speaker 1: And then you go agree, I agree with you. We're
Speaker 1: on the same page, and people gonna look at what
Speaker 1: kind of fruit your tree produces. So it's like, Academics,
Speaker 1: outside of criticize and Meek, what do you stand for?
Speaker 1: My dog? Like, what do you be pushing? But unfortunately
Speaker 1: Academics is known as a dude to be egging on
Speaker 1: some of the beefs and rap and be trying to
Speaker 1: like push people to the toxic behavior, and he covers
Speaker 1: that stuff in the way that he has a reputation
Speaker 1: for that. So it don't seem like act dog you
Speaker 1: always on some on this type of time. It seemed like, ah,
Speaker 1: you got a personal issue with Meek right now, But
Speaker 1: outside of this, boy, you be perpetuating the negativity too,
Speaker 1: and act. With that being said, my brother, you can
Speaker 1: do better as well, DJ Academics. You could do better, bro,
Speaker 1: if you really on that type of time where you're
Speaker 1: saying Meek Mill being on both sides bothers you, then
Speaker 1: you have to show that you are on both sides
Speaker 1: on a regular basis. You gotta show that when people
Speaker 1: look at what d you want been represented for the
Speaker 1: last fifteen years since I put my first album out
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, it's the same thing that
Speaker 1: I'm on. Now. That's something I'm proud of. Bro. This
Speaker 1: ain't no man right now, it's just convenient to call
Speaker 1: this out. I think this is gonna give me some
Speaker 1: interviewers and give me on big fast. Man. I've been
Speaker 1: the same way. Man. I don't know how to not
Speaker 1: be this way. That's how much I've been like this.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to now be this way.
Speaker 7: I just feel like, if you're gonna advocate for one
Speaker 7: thing and try to call other people.
Speaker 6: Out on their flaws.
Speaker 7: In contrast to that one thing, you shouldn't have any
Speaker 7: flaws either.
Speaker 1: So okay, the part I disagree with is you shouldn't
Speaker 1: have any Everybody gonna know what I'm saying is if
Speaker 1: you're a hypocrite, if you're trying.
Speaker 5: To he's saying he bases, well, I'm gonna speak for him,
Speaker 5: but I think what he's saying is, I'm listening like
Speaker 5: he ain't got no flaws.
Speaker 1: His flaws only harm him, they don't harm other people.
Speaker 1: Y'all boat right? Well, Banks saying is right, But no, Jed,
Speaker 1: what you're saying is right because you're implying, Yo, it's
Speaker 1: very easy to see, like academics, boy, you don't be
Speaker 1: standing for no positive stuff, like outside of all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you want to give me canceled because you're
Speaker 1: so appalled by what he threatened you online. But but
Speaker 1: outside of this, you don't be on no positive righteous
Speaker 1: stuff at all. And you're saying that's hipocritical.
Speaker 6: Act I agree.
Speaker 1: With you, understand. Oh no, I like you're talking about him. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's why it seems like you're talking about me. I
Speaker 1: want to keep saying for the cameras you're talking about
Speaker 1: act right, because I don't. I don't have smoke with
Speaker 1: these people. The difference is, I gotta I gotta tell
Speaker 1: you all this. There's two types of love. Right, Who
Speaker 1: got kids here? I don't have kids yet, kids I
Speaker 1: got got kids, got kids kids here? I'm the only
Speaker 1: one with nothing. All right, Look like I need to
Speaker 1: make some babies. All right. That being said, I'm just playing.
Speaker 1: I gotta get married first. Check this out. We got
Speaker 1: we can take it that if you want, bro, and
Speaker 1: it makes sense. Bet all right, let me get to
Speaker 1: my point. Go ahead, I'm gonna get back on you. Man,
Speaker 1: crisis here looking for what the rest of the christis?
Speaker 1: Let him piss right, quicken this important point? Yeah, what
Speaker 1: about to say? We're talking about.
Speaker 6: Having kids and did the Bible tag you to wait
Speaker 6: to marriage?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Before kids?
Speaker 7: Though, we were talking about the hypocrisy in certain situations.
Speaker 1: The hypocrisy in certain situations, so like the pot calling
Speaker 1: the kettle black, basically basically all right, and I was
Speaker 1: talking about yeah, oh there we go, I got it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right. There's two types of love, right. There's something
Speaker 1: called affirmative something called transformative love. Affirmative love is because
Speaker 1: I genuinely love you, Jade. I'm looking for anything positive
Speaker 1: that I can say about you exactly. Your hair is
Speaker 1: so fire. I'm loving them braves, I'm loving these kicks.
Speaker 1: I'm loving the Nike sids. You hear me, I'm loving
Speaker 1: the nails. I'm affirming you. Right, that's one type of love.
Speaker 1: But transformative love scream is when you say I love
Speaker 1: you to the point where I'm gonna affirm you when
Speaker 1: it's time to you a beast on the ones and
Speaker 1: tools like you you that give you compliments. But because
Speaker 1: I'm practicing transformative love, I'm also going to love you
Speaker 1: enough to tell you when you could do better, because
Speaker 1: I want to see you be the best version of yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm practicing transformative love inside this culture. But because of
Speaker 1: egos sometimes and just because of a culture that don't
Speaker 1: take well to anybody saying anything about anything, they feel like,
Speaker 1: oh you said something about this person, or you said
Speaker 1: something about this topic, you must got smoke with them.
Speaker 1: People wanted to become that. Then you got people like
Speaker 1: the academics and meet mail thing that come along, and
Speaker 1: you clearly see act that's not transformative love. That you
Speaker 1: practicing with meet mail right now now, You not truly
Speaker 1: trying to see meat get better. You got issues with me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying and that and that feels different.
Speaker 1: So for me, I'm like, I'm not coming in with
Speaker 1: none of that type of energy. Listen, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I don't know if y'all know this
Speaker 1: or not, but people stop taking you as serious. When
Speaker 1: they see, man, you standing on this one day, but
Speaker 1: then the next day you standing on that. You ain't
Speaker 1: standing on no business at all. Because one day you
Speaker 1: standing on this business, the next day you stand on
Speaker 1: that business.
Speaker 5: Now that's when they contradict no, no, not saying listen
Speaker 5: and it's addiction.
Speaker 1: That's when it comes to be like you want to
Speaker 1: see things get better, but you intentionally making ops. What
Speaker 1: Charleston is doing at this point, I have seen it
Speaker 1: cross that line to where you going out here doing things.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing you at your comedy show throw a chairs
Speaker 1: at a do it in the crowd, getting into it.
Speaker 10: When he came in like fuck these nigga though, so
Speaker 10: that ain't cut. They come in and came in like
Speaker 10: fuck these niggas. If you come in like that, then
Speaker 10: that implies that you don't love them. And if you
Speaker 10: don't love me, then I ain't even trying to hear nothing.
Speaker 1: You got to see. That's a difference.
Speaker 7: But the thing is, okay, if that's the case, if
Speaker 7: you're not trying to hear what he.
Speaker 1: Has, why they don't love nobody. I don't want nobody
Speaker 1: leading our community. If they don't love no if they
Speaker 1: might have comeing in this but but you got much.
Speaker 1: But but we see, see that's just what you see.
Speaker 5: You don't see the niggas still be posting on out
Speaker 5: here in such so folks showing me love.
Speaker 1: He folks, he's showing the love he getting and given
Speaker 1: every time. The going he in the trenches, showing the
Speaker 1: love that he's getting and given.
Speaker 5: Like you just catching the Virol moment going the nigga pay,
Speaker 5: he's showing like you know what, I'm out here over time.
Speaker 5: I ain't in Buckhead. I'm over here on Bankhead, king
Speaker 5: with these nigga, regular nigga.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: You just said something, bro that it's like just because
Speaker 1: we get in love for something, don't mean that what
Speaker 1: we're doing is right.
Speaker 4: Brother.
Speaker 3: But the story of Jesus he walked amongst the thugs
Speaker 3: and the peasants, and what he.
Speaker 1: Didn't do when he walked amongst the thugs and the peasants,
Speaker 1: my good brother, is he didn't become so much like
Speaker 1: them that they would have photos remixed. You got people.
Speaker 1: He didn't become so much like them that they have
Speaker 1: more of an impact on him than he did on them.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what Jesus went. When he left there,
Speaker 1: the people were more like.
Speaker 5: Dang, they went on and hung you up. But you
Speaker 5: you really ain't about that, a nigga.
Speaker 1: You gotta meet these niggas where they act really about
Speaker 1: what I'm just saying, a nigga, that's how them folks
Speaker 1: felt funk all that hang him up? And that's what.
Speaker 5: Oh, so you believe that I'm saying whatever they say heaven,
Speaker 5: I don't know say that about Do you believe that?
Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, so you believe the Bible? You believe that.
Speaker 1: I'm asking you right now, I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: You usually as an example, so you can't use something
Speaker 1: as example, but be like, but I don't even know
Speaker 1: about you believe that. I believe that. That's all it
Speaker 1: takes to be a Christian is to believe that that happened,
Speaker 1: and to believe that God created Jesus sent them here
Speaker 1: so that that can happen. That's I don't believe that
Speaker 1: Mary got Britain on a version. I don't believe that.
Speaker 1: Why not just because you ain't lie? Man, I don't
Speaker 1: believe that. You don't believe that. I don't believe it.
Speaker 1: But how is that scientifically possible. It's not that the
Speaker 1: baby never happened. Again, it's not.
Speaker 5: So you're thinking about wife right now by another nigga,
Speaker 5: and she don't want me to find out, she.
Speaker 1: Would say, she in the heir. Jesus, we almost have
Speaker 1: hold on, we almost there. Listen almost about it. Go
Speaker 1: to her grade. Listen, listen, listen, we all have milk
Speaker 1: man back. Then, what is you talking about? What did
Speaker 1: they have milkman back? Then? You're asking me like I
Speaker 1: was alive?
Speaker 6: I say, because that could have been.
Speaker 1: How do you get back to that? Let's start while
Speaker 1: we got back to that. Hold the part about a
Speaker 1: virgin being able to have a child exactly. It proves
Speaker 1: that this child and this whole way that this baby
Speaker 1: came about was not of this world, because if it's
Speaker 1: this world, a dude would have had to get her pregnant.
Speaker 1: So basically her back not an alien, a gone, a
Speaker 1: divine being. So you believe that.
Speaker 7: But but a divine being isn't human though, right, a
Speaker 7: divine being came down here in human form.
Speaker 6: Come on, now, you gotta be one of the others
Speaker 6: to kill you. You got to be one of the.
Speaker 4: Only one.
Speaker 1: Jesus.
Speaker 7: It gotta be one of the other. But Jesus is gone.
Speaker 7: He's out of here, so we can't even use him
Speaker 7: as an example anymore.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying exactly. That's why they're As a
Speaker 1: Christian and I know screen probably like, but this other
Speaker 1: religion says this and that, and I really respect how
Speaker 1: you have studied everything, so you're like, yeah, but as
Speaker 1: a Christian, I'm saying that's what we're saying. Is that exactly?
Speaker 1: That's why there ain't no other prophet out here who
Speaker 1: That's why would Kanye said he's a god? But you
Speaker 1: better stop.
Speaker 7: No, there's no other prophet because there are no other virgins.
Speaker 7: There's no other prophet because there are no other pregnant
Speaker 7: virgins exactly there But was there even yes?
Speaker 1: So what yes, don't believe Jesus existed? Then the answer
Speaker 1: is no. Do you want to believe that Jesus did exist?
Speaker 1: So if you believe that, but I just don't.
Speaker 6: Think I believe it was immaculately concepted.
Speaker 1: Do you want to ask you this, bro? So, why
Speaker 1: would they cover up who his daddy was? And why
Speaker 1: you got to ask the lady? Yes? But why the
Speaker 1: Bible talks about other people that was known uh prostitutes
Speaker 1: and people that was like like literal they had married.
Speaker 6: They had married on a pedestal.
Speaker 1: They had married on the pedestal. Yes, so why would
Speaker 1: they choose marry out of all women to be on
Speaker 1: the pedestal.
Speaker 7: Face, She's been on there, she was on the pedi
Speaker 7: so before she became an alleged fucking pregnant virgin.
Speaker 1: Hold on, man, this you want? Do you want?
Speaker 4: Please?
Speaker 1: Ask you? Nobody? Nobody was checking for Mary. Mary wasn't
Speaker 1: like some big dog. It was like Mary was like
Speaker 1: rose Mary was.
Speaker 7: Dumped off and that's why she had something to hide,
Speaker 7: just because somebody.
Speaker 4: Bro bro.
Speaker 2: Brother, think about.
Speaker 1: Do you want? Please, sir, let me ask you this question?
Speaker 1: Ask you this question. You don't make me forget the
Speaker 1: motherfucking question. Man.
Speaker 4: That's her.
Speaker 1: That listen, man, that's her. I'm coming back on here. Man,
Speaker 1: Come on, you think Let me ask you this. Man,
Speaker 1: Damn man, I don't hate when I do this.
Speaker 6: Come on, hold on, don't look at black. Just take
Speaker 6: your eyes off Yount.
Speaker 5: Remember yeah, y'all go ahead, man, Damn man, I can
Speaker 5: try to get the attention.
Speaker 1: If I'm if I'm looking at this queen right here.
Speaker 1: And if I'm talking to her like grand rising, because
Speaker 1: I'm not a biscuit, You're not that all right? Right?
Speaker 2: Crazy?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah?
Speaker 5: Why why why married wasn't if she had the son
Speaker 5: of Jesus, I mean, the son of God, Jesus, why
Speaker 5: wasn't she Why did she become like a god?
Speaker 1: You gotta have God, dad, brother?
Speaker 5: Oh no, I'm asking you. I'm saying, like, why did
Speaker 5: they h I'm saying why we? Why did we?
Speaker 1: Why didn't we glorify her more? Like she should have
Speaker 1: the touch like my mama, my mama Barbara.
Speaker 5: Right now, she feels like she the motherfucker because she
Speaker 5: had but she had.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she feels like, man, my sow and my sow
Speaker 1: and my son. That's how my grandma feels.
Speaker 5: You get what I'm saying. My grandma too, brush her soul?
Speaker 5: Why did Mary? I ain't really get no cloud off
Speaker 5: of that?
Speaker 1: Like she got cloud, Brothers, she got cloud. You just
Speaker 1: had Jesus and it killed your son and you're still here.
Speaker 7: But her word, like, I think her word might not
Speaker 7: count because niggas know how she conceived Jesus.
Speaker 1: What You're a conspiracy theorist, that's what you me too.
Speaker 5: I just want to make it made sense. Like I
Speaker 5: just think of like how do you women here these day?
Speaker 1: Like you know what.
Speaker 5: Joseph, like Joseph, you Joseph, Big Joe and you with
Speaker 5: Mary and Joseph been in the field work.
Speaker 1: And she's just so heavy to get pregnant. What is
Speaker 1: she goes teen.
Speaker 6: Years and you ain't touch Mary, Big Joe.
Speaker 1: Like, we gotta put all this shit in perspective of this.
Speaker 5: This woman she had a dude, right, she was married
Speaker 5: to Joseph, she was married to Joseph, right, but she
Speaker 5: got pregnant and had a baby by somebody else.
Speaker 1: What is she gonna say?
Speaker 6: Like, how how are you internalizing that?
Speaker 1: Big Joe? Yeah me, Big Joe, Joe, you're right now,
Speaker 1: Like damn, what would you believe? Am I trippers?
Speaker 11: Screen just wake up tomorrow with Jesus in us? Right,
Speaker 11: we say that my wife pop to.
Speaker 5: This white wife wakes about tomorrow like he know we've
Speaker 5: been we've been, we've been ramadd we've been having sex.
Speaker 1: She's two weeks.
Speaker 3: I just I just thank I just think I just think, honestly,
Speaker 3: my my perspective on it, this, I don't take she
Speaker 3: I don't take the Bible when I read it literal
Speaker 3: word for word like like this right, I take the
Speaker 3: what you were saying about the power to tell me
Speaker 3: you know what I'm.
Speaker 5: Saying me too, Like pas In my favorite, it's about
Speaker 5: custom Mikey jun No my favorite.
Speaker 1: Like they speaking it they it like trust me.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of stories in the I'm just saying,
Speaker 5: like some of the stories just don't make sense me
Speaker 5: Like I'm just I'm just putting it up to like
Speaker 5: believe me. I believe the whole story of Jesus. I
Speaker 5: believe that he was a special person. I believe all
Speaker 5: that I believe out it. But I don't know if
Speaker 5: he the son of God. I feel like if he's
Speaker 5: the son of God, there's more sons of God. That's
Speaker 5: how I feel. I don't feel like it's just one,
Speaker 5: like he just need to be God then Jesus.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like that. I feel like God, Jesus God.
Speaker 5: These niggas I don't seen be Gods in their neighborhoods,
Speaker 5: Like these are same type niggas, they may not just
Speaker 5: be reaching the same type of people.
Speaker 3: I think he was a son of God, but I
Speaker 3: also think I'm a son of God.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Like this, like God has a long lineage, it's not
Speaker 7: just him, and.
Speaker 1: I don't know that.
Speaker 5: I don't know that that marriage just had this like
Speaker 5: I don't believe.
Speaker 1: That you know what it is to it. I also
Speaker 1: think that it's like how people nowadays who didn't see
Speaker 1: Jordan playing don't believe that Jordan was as great as
Speaker 1: he was. Now, can you feel me on this? Scream
Speaker 1: I'm talking to scream right now?
Speaker 2: You like basketball, Michael Jordan's the greatest ever. Stand what
Speaker 2: you're saying.
Speaker 1: You saw Jordan's, you saw Jordan's You know these youngsters nowadays,
Speaker 1: you feel me?
Speaker 2: I got you on that.
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is going to Jamaica and being
Speaker 3: amongst my Ro brothers and my Rastafarian brothers say job,
Speaker 3: I see you so forth and stuff like that. I
Speaker 3: can't argue with their spirit and their belief in what
Speaker 3: they saw in Hell. Selassie, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I wasn't there, so I can't tell them that you're
Speaker 3: not following the right prophet because this is the only profit.
Speaker 3: And then I also say, let me just find and
Speaker 3: say this. If you grew up, let's say you grew
Speaker 3: up in Asia, your entire life, right and your own
Speaker 3: your own exposed to Buddha. You were never exposed to
Speaker 3: a Bible or the story of Jesus Christ or Jesus
Speaker 3: or anything like that. You were only exposed to this
Speaker 3: from your birthday to your death day. Right, that's all
Speaker 3: you were exposed to. You don't know any other way.
Speaker 3: But if you pray every day and you worship a
Speaker 3: higher power, and you're like you humble yourself to say
Speaker 3: thank you for another day and the blessings you bestowed
Speaker 3: upon me and so forth and so far, I still
Speaker 3: think you could be rewarded and blessed here and after here.
Speaker 3: That's my belief, right me too.
Speaker 1: I respect you because even the way you're articulating what
Speaker 1: you're saying is coming from a place of like rationale. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of people are are coming because one thing
Speaker 1: I was going to come in on what you said
Speaker 1: was like, I'm cool with a lot of Muslims, like
Speaker 1: a lot of right, I'm cool with a lot of Rosterfaris.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm a Rosteropharians. I'm cool
Speaker 1: with people. That's like, hey, I'm spiritual, but I'm not
Speaker 1: religious at all, so I don't claim nothing, and I'm
Speaker 1: friends with these people. And what I realized is you're
Speaker 1: either going to approach your relationships with them to where
Speaker 1: you're always telling them you know what you believe is wrong, right,
Speaker 1: you know what you're wrong with what I believe is right.
Speaker 1: You're either gonna do that and you're gonna become that person,
Speaker 1: or you're going to be the person that's like, hey,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you might be a
Speaker 1: Falcons fan, I'm a Saints fan. You hear me. I'm
Speaker 1: black and gold, you hear me all day. But I'm
Speaker 1: still able to look at what it is we do
Speaker 1: have encountered and what we are on the same page
Speaker 1: about and still exude that love with you and connect
Speaker 1: with you on them levels and at a certain point
Speaker 1: the things that we know that we got different feelings
Speaker 1: about that stuff. If those conversations need to come up,
Speaker 1: if and when that'll happen on its own. But I'm
Speaker 1: not getting cool with you just to be able to
Speaker 1: tell you you know you're wrong and you know you're wrong,
Speaker 1: because that's not love, and that's not what to bring
Speaker 1: it really full circle. That's not even what Jesus did.
Speaker 1: Like the way Jesus did walk amongst the centers and
Speaker 1: the thieves and the tax collectors is that he was
Speaker 1: there eating dinner with them at their crib. They clearly
Speaker 1: thought he was a cool dude. They was inviting him
Speaker 1: to they crib. You feel me. So when people try
Speaker 1: to come at me like I'm just gonna name some
Speaker 1: artists that I've had featured on my songs, and people
Speaker 1: try to come at me like, well, why would you
Speaker 1: have this person on your song, I'm just like, stop,
Speaker 1: that sounds elementary. Why would you have The Game on
Speaker 1: your song? Why would you have Kevin Gates on your song?
Speaker 1: Why would you have Fertile Brand, Bang Project, Pat Star Leedo,
Speaker 1: Juvenile Many, Fresh, Loop Fiasco, Big crit The list goes on,
Speaker 1: why would you have these people on your songs over
Speaker 1: the course of your career? It's like, why would I not.
Speaker 1: We have so much that we relate on as people
Speaker 1: because we're people first, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: the human experience is something that so many of us
Speaker 1: can relate on that I just need to be in
Speaker 1: relationship with these people. That's why I'm thankful that God
Speaker 1: is using me to be able to build bridges to
Speaker 1: as like, oh word, I ain't talk to a dude
Speaker 1: that's a Christian maybe in a long time or they
Speaker 1: really stand on his Christian beliefs. But I met d
Speaker 1: one and dude a little crazy, but he cool, like
Speaker 1: I rock a dude. Maybe that helps open the door
Speaker 1: to somebody saying, you know what, maybe if I do
Speaker 1: go to church, or maybe if I meet some more Christians.
Speaker 1: I'm not coming into it with just this wall up,
Speaker 1: Like y'all all super just one of you you tricked.
Speaker 1: What would you feel like you've been bamboo by the Bible? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How you feel I would be dead when that happens,
Speaker 1: Number one, because it would be in the afterlife, because
Speaker 1: in this lifetime. Like, can anybody tell you that you're
Speaker 1: not black at this point? Yeah, somebody can tell you
Speaker 1: color black be black. It's color black. Man might be
Speaker 1: caring man whole bank. Okay, so you're saying that possb
Speaker 1: I feel like you was the student in class who
Speaker 1: always is a teacher trying to make examples. He like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go against this point. I know you're trying
Speaker 1: to make. But can somebody can somebody tell you, scream
Speaker 1: that you are not a man, that you're a woman.
Speaker 1: Nobody could convince you of that. That's how firm I
Speaker 1: feel about I can't get vince you of that. Now
Speaker 1: you're right there, you go to man, man, that's how
Speaker 1: That's how firm I feel about my belief in God
Speaker 1: and about my belief in Jesus. To where yo, if
Speaker 1: it do come out there, it's like, oh, man, you
Speaker 1: got bad moods. Guess what. I ain't gonna be here
Speaker 1: to find out. And I'm gonna be in there after
Speaker 1: life anywhere, and it's gonna be like, oh, it's too late,
Speaker 1: because that ain't happening while I'm here.
Speaker 5: I can dig that. You feel me, No, I feel
Speaker 5: the same. Yeah, I ain't saying that. I just don't
Speaker 5: believe nothing that they told us before.
Speaker 1: We know? So so how you so? How you know
Speaker 1: that your parents are your parents? You didn't watch them
Speaker 1: have sins and create was somebody that somebody who was
Speaker 1: in the room, you know what I'm saying, somebody that
Speaker 1: all bounced it. This lady had me. You know.
Speaker 5: You know that's why I, like I said, I belie
Speaker 5: everybody should it should be mandatory that you get a
Speaker 5: DNA test for your father because your mother, have you
Speaker 5: and your father get a DNA test them your parents?
Speaker 1: So what about your great grandparents, who I'm assuming they
Speaker 1: no longer hear with us on earth. So at this point,
Speaker 1: to believe that your great grandparents was really your great grandparents,
Speaker 1: you gotta go based off here said word them out
Speaker 1: at this point because nobody who was alive when they
Speaker 1: was alive, it's still here. But you believe that.
Speaker 5: Somebody put us on the wrong last name? Where are
Speaker 5: the crisises.
Speaker 1: We got? I don't think when did last name is
Speaker 1: even get made up? If you won't really keep a
Speaker 1: gag store, when did that even start last names?
Speaker 5: At least I know somebody that know your great greedy, greedy, greedy,
Speaker 5: greedy grandma. I know somebody that know somebody they used
Speaker 5: to be around there with them, folks.
Speaker 1: Do you believe in dinosaurs? I know y'all know anybody
Speaker 1: who ever seen a dinosaur? Yes? Who a nigga who knew?
Speaker 1: A nigga who knew a nigga who knew who knew?
Speaker 1: I can't ask questions I got over a nigga who
Speaker 1: do a nigga?
Speaker 5: Cause get what the only reason why we do about
Speaker 5: because the nigga told another NIGGAO told another nigga told
Speaker 5: another nigga telephone, and they.
Speaker 1: Got bones and ship right, just like they got historical
Speaker 1: artifacts verifying it. Oh. No, Jesus definitely was alive. But
Speaker 1: he's not.
Speaker 2: He's just saying.
Speaker 1: I'm saying it is made up. I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I'm saying, listen, if I wrote a Bible, if twel
Speaker 5: I mean I many people wrote the Bible, like Matthew
Speaker 5: Jim How many people weren't all my.
Speaker 1: Niggas wrote the Bible about me?
Speaker 5: What the hell you think they're gonna say I was Manna.
Speaker 1: Chances are they're gonna be byas, but they're gonna all
Speaker 1: have a different account of who you were because they
Speaker 1: experienced you in different ways. It don't matter. But they
Speaker 1: still donna need my niggas. I'm saying why, But why
Speaker 1: would they choose you to write the whole Bible based
Speaker 1: on because I was special? You don't think you're special.
Speaker 1: Take twelve of your friends right now, they belie even
Speaker 1: once you do.
Speaker 5: A twelve of your followers, nigga that really freely fucked
Speaker 5: you to write.
Speaker 1: About them I think they would rather write a Bible
Speaker 1: about themselves before they wrote about me. No, bro, who
Speaker 1: you're gonna love more than you love yourself?
Speaker 5: And what I'm saying, Bro, you don't know how you
Speaker 5: touch people. Bro, you can touch niggas in Wade that
Speaker 5: they It's unexplainable.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: If you had a chance to write a book on
Speaker 1: anybody in this world, no Bro, King.
Speaker 5: James came is twelve niggas. Hey don't write a book
Speaker 5: about the boy. David Man I like him. Hey, tell
Speaker 5: your best stories.
Speaker 1: But King James like David literally though, but tell tell
Speaker 1: your best stories. How the fuck you think that's gonna
Speaker 1: come out. It's gonna come out amazing. If they're telling
Speaker 1: their best stories, why wouldn't it come out of me?
Speaker 1: So did you think they came to folks and say
Speaker 1: tell your worst stories? I think it's I think it was.
Speaker 1: First of all, I don't think King James had a
Speaker 1: meeting with every one did the books. Whoever got the books,
Speaker 1: whoever did the boy.
Speaker 5: I'm saying, whoever wrote the Bible and put it all together,
Speaker 5: we got stories. If listen, if everybody in this room,
Speaker 5: who I work with and whatever, they're gonna tell the good.
Speaker 2: Times of Bank.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: They're gonna tell all the times I made them feel.
Speaker 5: They're gonna say, but sometimes he be glitching. Sometime he
Speaker 5: did walk amongst the prostitutes. They gonna say all of
Speaker 5: that ship. They still gonna say who I was to
Speaker 5: make me a special person, because I am a special
Speaker 5: chosen nigga. I did some unincredible ship in my lifetime.
Speaker 5: This as a regular street nigga. So they gonna tell
Speaker 5: the same story as in the Book of Jade. What
Speaker 5: you think they're gonna sound like about Bank? The book
Speaker 5: us Shunning? Take the book David, my buddy David. The
Speaker 5: niggas gonna tell the then niggas a hero.
Speaker 1: Right, So you're making a good point, but allow me
Speaker 1: to make one as well. Go ahead. As much as
Speaker 1: people revere Martin Luther King, they got them people that's
Speaker 1: like man Martin Luther King had h o ees on
Speaker 1: top of h o e s on top. But this
Speaker 1: man was crooked, this man was foul. That other side
Speaker 1: has come out. It ain't as popular as the ones
Speaker 1: that's big up in him. But all you got to
Speaker 1: do is google. They got whole books written on how
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King was not nobody. We need to be
Speaker 1: looking up to recent as much because all that shit
Speaker 1: recent nip. Nip only been passed away for what five
Speaker 1: years at this point, but all that shit recent as
Speaker 1: much as people. As much as people revere nip and
Speaker 1: look up to nip, they got the other side of
Speaker 1: You got people you can call them haters of nip,
Speaker 1: you could call them whatevers, but they got people that
Speaker 1: come out and say nine positive things about nil all
Speaker 1: this time. And you ain't heard nothing bad about Jesus.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, he gotta be not of this world.
Speaker 1: Got too, you ain't hear nothing bad about Jesus? But
Speaker 1: what's the color? Like? The name could be changed? This
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. Like first they saying.
Speaker 5: Could be black, could be white, could be this right,
Speaker 5: could be different colors, brown skin, light skin, whatever.
Speaker 1: Right, who's to say that this name is Jesus?
Speaker 2: I mean, and Israelites call him some That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Like, at the end of the day, do we really
Speaker 5: know the story? Is what I'm saying. I ain't saying
Speaker 5: I don't believe that this is a person. I don't
Speaker 5: say because everything has been remixed, everything has been remixed.
Speaker 1: I don't think that we couldn't play the telephone game.
Speaker 1: We got one. We got six people in here. If
Speaker 1: we had thirty students in this class, and if we
Speaker 1: did a telephone game, I'm gonna start a message out.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pass it to you and everybody telling him.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be different.
Speaker 1: Life Jesus. That's the life of Jesus, the life of
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. All the different interpretations of the Bible, it's
Speaker 1: the same account of his life, the same one. What's
Speaker 1: the eyes of that brother?
Speaker 5: But in Yes, Bross, it's many of those. It's many,
Speaker 5: it's many of those. It's over different things. It's like
Speaker 5: and they say, Okay, that's supposed to be in Jesus.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying in the Bible? Like and
Speaker 5: that came before Like what about the religion that came
Speaker 5: before Jesus in any of the other stuff. What about
Speaker 5: those religions who people with spiritual had had religion? What
Speaker 5: about those before Jesus came, before the savior came, Jesus
Speaker 5: Christ came?
Speaker 1: What what about those people? How would they getting to God?
Speaker 1: How are they getting to God? At that point? They
Speaker 1: couldn't get to God through Jesus, so they had to
Speaker 1: be gone through God directly. That's a great question.
Speaker 2: You said.
Speaker 1: They believe in sacrifice, they believe in all type of thing.
Speaker 1: I could put up the scripture bro to where God
Speaker 1: literally says I am sending my son down here and
Speaker 1: any of you. But who wrote that? So are you
Speaker 1: worried about who wrote it or what I'm saying?
Speaker 5: Listen, listen, how is it true if y'all was able
Speaker 5: to get to me and get healings and everything on
Speaker 5: the world and all these miracles was here before Jesus.
Speaker 5: That's told me that. That's all I want to know.
Speaker 5: How do we how do we get blessed? How do
Speaker 5: we get anything for our sins or anything? Before Jesus?
Speaker 1: When it was already God was, We had already be created.
Speaker 2: So this this way, this is why I'm that was created.
Speaker 1: Once Jesus came here, God became.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's religion. Listen.
Speaker 3: This is my final question on it. So Jesus was
Speaker 3: God said, it's d one.
Speaker 1: God said, yeah, I wasn't.
Speaker 2: We're not talking about this of your religion and what
Speaker 2: you believe.
Speaker 1: We were.
Speaker 2: We respect, we respect I respect.
Speaker 3: I respect everybody's religions and their philosophy cultural, cultural. For
Speaker 3: what I'm saying is they say that Christ within you, right,
Speaker 3: I think that story of Jesus is to show us
Speaker 3: that we should not have these limitations in these ceilings.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm God like, oh, God like that,
Speaker 3: but God is within me. So if I tap into
Speaker 3: that power properly, I know since I became better at
Speaker 3: tapping into that part of into that power, like, I've
Speaker 3: been a better person and more powerful person. I've been
Speaker 3: able to touch other people, I've been able to shift
Speaker 3: energy out. This is God like. I'm not God, but
Speaker 3: I'm saying that God is within me. So I just
Speaker 3: think that the story of Jesus, when they say the
Speaker 3: Christ willin you, tap into the Christ within you, tap
Speaker 3: into that.
Speaker 5: God with understand what you said I had, I had
Speaker 5: tripp him up a little bit, scream before you got
Speaker 5: you on his.
Speaker 1: Side, trip that you got your shoes off.
Speaker 5: Help me understand that, Help me understand the trip I
Speaker 5: got him shoes.
Speaker 1: Help me understand that.
Speaker 5: Help me understand that you help me understand that was
Speaker 5: the question I get saying great analogy, DJ Stream Great
Speaker 5: you always bailed this figure out.
Speaker 1: Help me understand how did we get to God before Jesus? Bro,
Speaker 1: That's not a whole question. It was directly. It was
Speaker 1: like you are able to you are expected to pray
Speaker 1: directly to God. Just like now, how did.
Speaker 5: We know to pray if one of those sins like
Speaker 5: we got commandments was out?
Speaker 1: What is you talking about? Was already where that ship
Speaker 1: dropped like it's an album. That's the Old Testament, My question,
Speaker 1: Old Commandments? Bro? Moses Jaman Megan? All right?
Speaker 5: So all right, so why Moses won a special knicks
Speaker 5: or he was he was one of them one.
Speaker 1: So while we were John Baptists. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: all the people don't even before Jesus, right, Jesus and
Speaker 1: all them people Baptists during Jesus time? Who before? Who
Speaker 1: before Jesus? The only thing made Jesus Jesus.
Speaker 6: You just said Donald during Jesus time.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about he before and and doing he said
Speaker 1: before and okay, that's all he played about side you know.
Speaker 4: That he was.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's just he's o G Yeah, listen, let's.
Speaker 1: Go come on. The only thing made he's a Jesus.
Speaker 1: But he was born from a virgin.
Speaker 5: Basically, so that made it seem like he's a direct
Speaker 5: plug the God, thank you.
Speaker 1: But the thing is before everything that, because everything else
Speaker 1: in life, they got a direct plug to whatever it is.
Speaker 6: So if they had a direct.
Speaker 7: Plug to God before Jesus got there, what the fuck
Speaker 7: did they need.
Speaker 1: Jesus for yo? Because that's because because when you read,
Speaker 1: you realize, oh, they was wilding that out, wild.
Speaker 5: Out now to the point he's still around the niggas
Speaker 5: wilding out there.
Speaker 1: Guess what God did. He gave us a tangible role model,
Speaker 1: because you can't relate to God when it's just like,
Speaker 1: oh my God, So he said it want no good
Speaker 1: nigga Jesus. Oh no, they no, they had good They
Speaker 1: had good people, for sure. They had good people there to.
Speaker 6: Be a tangible role model. Then why did they always ask.
Speaker 1: The card to show how unhealthy humanity is compared to him?
Speaker 1: That y'all gonna take the Son of God, a freaking
Speaker 1: perfect human being who'd been down here performing miracles, healing
Speaker 1: the sick and the dead, blessing people, and and y'all
Speaker 1: gonna kill him.
Speaker 7: And y'all because they still kill niggas.
Speaker 1: What you mean exactly. So the purpose that I'm killing
Speaker 1: him was to show that none of these human beings
Speaker 1: is our saving because we all corrupt. We all so
Speaker 1: corrupt that we didn't even kill the son of God.
Speaker 1: It was down here. So at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you could look up to people to a certain extent,
Speaker 1: but ain't None of us gods were God like, we're
Speaker 1: made in his image. But when you got people that's
Speaker 1: out here, nigg that's a big difference. There had to
Speaker 1: be one. There wasn't one, Jade. Then they would be like,
Speaker 1: what's sure, we're on the same thing.
Speaker 6: Continue to go on?
Speaker 1: Then that one how you die?
Speaker 4: Nah?
Speaker 1: That that's not I couldn't agree with that one if
Speaker 1: the same stuff continued to go on, because not everybody
Speaker 1: after the time of Jesus is even believing or adhering
Speaker 1: to what Jesus preached. You got some people that like,
Speaker 1: f all that I'm finna go wild out, man, Take
Speaker 1: me to the strip club, take me to the Hoodah.
Speaker 1: You got some people that's like, I hear all that
Speaker 1: message you over here, But I ain't on none of that.
Speaker 1: You hear me, I'm I'm I'm I'm living like this
Speaker 1: because it's my purpose again, you know. And you know
Speaker 1: what God blessed us with was free will. He loved
Speaker 1: us so much that he's like, dang, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: y'all free will, because ain't nothing better than being able
Speaker 1: to say, I want my left hand to move, and
Speaker 1: I'm making move. But the problem with the free wheel is,
Speaker 1: ever since even Adam and Eve, ever since Adam and Eve,
Speaker 1: with that free will, God to be like, look, y'all
Speaker 1: can do whatever y'all want. Just stay away from that
Speaker 1: tree over there. It's called you know, that's that's the
Speaker 1: trier good and evil. It's in the garden of ve.
Speaker 1: Just stay away from that tree. But y'all got the
Speaker 1: rest of all this to do whatever you want. That's
Speaker 1: like we're in this studio right now. Whatever y'all do,
Speaker 1: just don't don't open that door right there. But all
Speaker 1: this is good. Guess what the first two human beings
Speaker 1: that ever existed went did? They said, oh, we want
Speaker 1: to open that door right there, So they went and
Speaker 1: ate off of the one tree that he told him
Speaker 1: not to eat off of. At that point, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: all right, humanity is corrupted. If the first two human
Speaker 1: beers that I created, it's gonna go and disobey me
Speaker 1: when I gave him all this freedom and all these blessings.
Speaker 1: Humanity is corrupted at a certain point, Sidim and goodmor
Speaker 1: I heard you mention that you got all these other examples,
Speaker 1: there was wilding the f out. You heard me in
Speaker 1: the Old Testament. There was wilding out to the point
Speaker 1: where God was like, somebody got an intervene. We didn't
Speaker 1: all needed that person. I'm just a good man. I'm cooking. Listen.
Speaker 1: We didn't all been in school and somebody in class
Speaker 1: wilding out. It probably was you. You heard me in
Speaker 1: class wilding out to the point where they'd be like, hey,
Speaker 1: call in, uh the intervention officer, call in somebody. The
Speaker 1: teacher can't even handle them. No more calling somebody. Man.
Speaker 1: When I was in school, they had to come in
Speaker 1: and put a boy in a in a in a
Speaker 1: sheet with a blanket on top of him and rap
Speaker 1: this do it up and hold all corners just to
Speaker 1: contain him and and pull him to the office. When
Speaker 1: I was in element try to never forget that. But
Speaker 1: the teacher couldn't hand the ladder. They had to really
Speaker 1: get like grown strong. So what happened now him. But
Speaker 1: that being said, it got to that point to where
Speaker 1: God was like, I gotta call in something that shoot, reinforcement, reinforcement.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give them one of them.
Speaker 6: But the reinforcement didn't reinforce.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. He did give people Jesus blessed
Speaker 1: just because a few people chose to kill.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, he blessed.
Speaker 7: But I thought, from my understanding from what you were saying,
Speaker 7: is that his whole purpose for coming down from the
Speaker 7: heavens or magically appearing in his mama's womb or.
Speaker 1: Whatever wherever the fuck he came from.
Speaker 7: His whole purpose and his whole point was to show
Speaker 7: that man should not put their faith in man.
Speaker 6: Basically, right or am I wrong?
Speaker 1: That wasn't That wasn't his purpose at all. So what
Speaker 1: was his purpose? Then? His purpose was to be down
Speaker 1: here and to show what God looks like and human.
Speaker 1: For you got all this going on in the world.
Speaker 6: So basically, now to the cross, show that faith in.
Speaker 4: Hold on.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, you're saying that there's not another man
Speaker 1: like that, though not another man there was perfect that
Speaker 1: walked this earth. No sir, and and in other religions,
Speaker 1: once again, here we go in other religions, individuals who
Speaker 1: they have said, Hey, this person or this person, this
Speaker 1: is who started this religion, this who founded this religion.
Speaker 1: Guess what? Guess what ended up coming out a bunch
Speaker 1: of smiter on they man, a bunch of oh this person, oh,
Speaker 1: King James or King James is all your da da
Speaker 1: da or this person over this religion or this person
Speaker 1: who we were all worshiping or whatever, Oh this person
Speaker 1: had how you say, Melther Max? Come on, man, y'all
Speaker 1: know these stories. Man, y'all know the story of y'all
Speaker 1: saw a mether Max. Y'all read the book, y'all, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all saw the movie. Yeah, yeah, so y'all know it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: but with Jesus, it hasn't been something to where it's
Speaker 1: like dang, dang, they ain't found nothing of Jesus. It's
Speaker 1: going on two thousand and twenty four years. He's founding
Speaker 1: on Barack Obama. Now you tripping. They got to do it.
Speaker 1: And I ain't even want to say that, but.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying they ain't founding on Lebron James. Some
Speaker 5: niggas just pure, still pure niggas.
Speaker 1: What's the difference, because that's a human version of being pure,
Speaker 1: that's the difference. Even though you're right, ain't nothing big
Speaker 1: came out about.
Speaker 7: Aren't you saying? Aren't you saying Jesus is the same thing.
Speaker 7: I ain't no, the human version of being although although
Speaker 7: they ain't found nothing on Lebron. If we act Lebron
Speaker 7: right now, Lebron, have you ever committed a sin in
Speaker 7: your life? Lebron will be the first one to tell you,
Speaker 7: because he seemed like a very humble, like level headed dude.
Speaker 1: Lebron will be the first one to tell you. Man,
Speaker 1: are you serious? Heck yeah, I have committed book who
Speaker 1: sins in my life? What you mean just because I
Speaker 1: ain't have no big r Kelly scandal come out about me,
Speaker 1: don't mean that I'm personal out there. You said commit
Speaker 1: not one sin, not one sin, brother, not one sin?
Speaker 1: So you're saying Jesus was perfect? Yes, I ain't never
Speaker 1: read that point, I believe. So that's the whole that's
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Why it's like, man, Jesus not just
Speaker 1: like one of us. That's the whole kicker is like
Speaker 1: it was only one of him. It was only one
Speaker 1: of him, that's the whole kicker.
Speaker 5: So that what made him believe that she probably could
Speaker 5: have held her because how he was, how he was,
Speaker 5: how he was.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, he she she won. They probably down
Speaker 1: her till they seen how he really was, and then
Speaker 1: I can go for that. Now I can go for that.
Speaker 1: But that does that mean that? But this nigga grew
Speaker 1: up and they saw how he was. I have doubts.
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, I said.
Speaker 5: They was probably down her until they seem like how
Speaker 5: he was, Like nah, this nigga is this, he is different.
Speaker 5: He might have did come from God.
Speaker 1: He just he just rolls somebody from the dead. Lazarus
Speaker 1: was blind. He gave his mad sight. This the miracle.
Speaker 1: This miracle they seen. He fed five thousand people with
Speaker 1: a few loaves of bread. I just saw the bread.
Speaker 1: All the people out there, now we just saw that.
Speaker 1: It was a couple of pieces. This man fed five
Speaker 1: thousand people with this. They were seeing this and they
Speaker 1: was like, oh he different. If we was down the
Speaker 1: whole Mary had a baby and she was a murder. Oh,
Speaker 1: we ain't doubted him the more. But along with people
Speaker 1: becoming your fans. It's people becoming jealous of you too.
Speaker 1: So even his clique, his crew, he had one of
Speaker 1: the ones that got jealous, Judas. He had twelve that
Speaker 1: he used to roll with, and he had Judas that
Speaker 1: was like, man, I ain't feeling that's what Judis sold
Speaker 1: Jesus out for thirty pieces of silver. Sounded like nowadays
Speaker 1: a lot of people like, man, yeah, I'm rocking on
Speaker 1: my potno or whatever, but we ain't really as close
Speaker 1: as we used to be with what You wouldn't look
Speaker 1: at me how much if I just get dropped the
Speaker 1: location on him or da da da bet we see
Speaker 1: it happen in the streets all the time. That's how
Speaker 1: Jesus got took out all of this stuff. When you
Speaker 1: think about it, it's like, dang, dang, that's how that happened.
Speaker 1: And it's super relatable. That's why God sent himself in
Speaker 1: human form in the form of his son, because it's like,
Speaker 1: I gotta make it relatable. So now when we see, man,
Speaker 1: you was rolling with Homie, but then with Homie get
Speaker 1: locked up, you act like you ain't roll with him
Speaker 1: no more, and d man, that's lame, No, that's fate.
Speaker 1: We don't respect that. Now you could relate to man,
Speaker 1: that stuff ain't new, That ain't some Atlanta Street chronicles.
Speaker 1: Man that heaven to Jesus, and it shows that he
Speaker 1: wasn't liking nobody else because guess what he knew already. Man,
Speaker 1: I already know whos gonna be the one to sell
Speaker 1: me out. That's gonna be Julus. But guess what he
Speaker 1: did at the last supper. He still got up eating
Speaker 1: dinner with them for the last time and was like, Man,
Speaker 1: I won't show y'all how much I love y'all. Got
Speaker 1: up washed everybody's feet, bro washed everybody's feet while they
Speaker 1: was having the last supper, just to show y'all that,
Speaker 1: although I'm guard and human form, that's how humble I am,
Speaker 1: because that's how humble we called to be on this earth.
Speaker 1: I'm washing y'all feet, I'm breaking bread with y'all eating dinner,
Speaker 1: and I'm knowing that you're about to sell me out,
Speaker 1: and you about have had these people come in here
Speaker 1: and pick me up and arrest me and torture me
Speaker 1: and eventually kill me. But I'm still gonna come and
Speaker 1: give you a kiss and let you know you're steal
Speaker 1: my brother, crazy man. Ain't nobody else like that? So
Speaker 1: who who told you all this? Like?
Speaker 4: Who who?
Speaker 1: It's in the Bible? I give the Bible app if
Speaker 1: you want, brother, I just like it's in the Bible app.
Speaker 1: Who verified about it's in the Bible? Who verified lived experiences? Man?
Speaker 1: Lived experiences? So living living enough life and eventually having
Speaker 1: it's the book.
Speaker 2: You this on the book?
Speaker 1: You read books? Right, I just say redbooks. Heck yeah,
Speaker 1: but don't know those same books like thinking, don't those
Speaker 1: feels just like how the Bible feels.
Speaker 4: No book.
Speaker 1: None of them ever taught me how to have life eternally.
Speaker 1: They taught me how to get some worldly wealth and
Speaker 1: some money while I'm down here. That's cool. We all
Speaker 1: got I'm just saying. But it's like the same type
Speaker 1: of feelings like knowledge, right, I think. I think it's
Speaker 1: a different high. It's a different type behindh It's something
Speaker 1: that we can't do. It's something that money can't do.
Speaker 1: It's something that making love to somebody can't do. It's
Speaker 1: a different type of how when it's like it's from
Speaker 1: the most high. I think, I don't know, I just feel.
Speaker 5: I just feel like I like, like when I when
Speaker 5: I when like, don't get me wrong, when I go
Speaker 5: in church and ship, I do feel the energy of God.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, even if it could
Speaker 5: be Christian, it could be like I said, it could
Speaker 5: be some ship that I don't understand. It can just
Speaker 5: be some foreign or religion, just whatever. I can feel
Speaker 5: God in the presence of when people are praising God.
Speaker 5: So that's why I don't just box myself in and
Speaker 5: think like it's only one way to get to God.
Speaker 5: If that makes sense what I'm saying like, and I
Speaker 5: ain't saying like Jesus not real. I ain't saying the Bible,
Speaker 5: the Bible not real. They account or what they did
Speaker 5: ain't really.
Speaker 1: I ain't saying that. But what I'm saying is we
Speaker 1: can't say.
Speaker 5: That these people ain't getting to God the same exact wait,
Speaker 5: because they could have had the same problem. Like you're saying,
Speaker 5: Jesus perfect, it is one is his one is this
Speaker 5: one is one. That's the part I just don't believe.
Speaker 5: I believe like that it's gonna be more gonna come. Well,
Speaker 5: I think it's more here that we just don't recognize
Speaker 5: these day we ridicule him and.
Speaker 1: We huh, that's perfect or that's problem. What you mean
Speaker 1: you think not perfect?
Speaker 4: Not perfect?
Speaker 1: Nobody purpose you say, you say Jesus was perfect? Okay, cool, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that could be the twist. Nobody nobody said that's cap
Speaker 1: in all these years, in twenty twenty four years, nobody
Speaker 1: said that's cap. That's strong, that's wrong, twenty twenty four years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so so what old budget? Judis just set him up?
Speaker 1: He he He wouldn't set him up. He ain't did
Speaker 1: nothing but continue to love Judas even after Judis set
Speaker 1: him up, continue to love him, wash the man feet
Speaker 1: you heard me, still love him. And then when they
Speaker 1: had saying, well, while you set him up just for
Speaker 1: the money, he ain't set him up with jealousy? Oh
Speaker 1: man like word? Are y'all rapping Homan like that? Or
Speaker 1: it's all these big crowds everywhere we go. The same
Speaker 1: reason why groups break up because you getting too much attention,
Speaker 1: I'm getting jealous same thing, same type of thing. And
Speaker 1: nowadays we just gotta we gotta make sure that we aren't.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we turn it things into God's down here, we
Speaker 1: call them idols. We'll be so attached to things down here?
Speaker 1: Is there idols? I think they're more idol in the
Speaker 1: world is money. Like people be so attached to money
Speaker 1: and the love of money. That's why I say it's
Speaker 1: in the Bible. It don't say money is the root
Speaker 1: of all evil. It says the love of money is
Speaker 1: the root of all evil. And that's strong right there,
Speaker 1: because it's like, who don't want to make money? Even
Speaker 1: God new like, yeah, make your money, get your babe,
Speaker 1: but when you love it? So I don't hear right there.
Speaker 1: I don't hear people in hip hop, brother, talking about, man,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get closer to God. I hear people
Speaker 1: say I'm trying to get closer to a billion dollars,
Speaker 1: a million dollars. You hear that a lot more in
Speaker 1: hip hop. That lets us know that we love it
Speaker 1: money more do we love in God. You're going to
Speaker 1: worsh from nothing over God? You ain't nothing, nothing nothing.
Speaker 5: You ain't putting that like, I don't put that over
Speaker 5: over that, bro, because I know I wouldn't be right here.
Speaker 1: But I do have questions about like this is only
Speaker 1: one way to get to God. I don't believe that.
Speaker 5: I don't came nothing in this world make me believe
Speaker 5: that like this story could be true, but I just
Speaker 5: see too many different religions. I see too much, too
Speaker 5: many different people are blessed. I feel like it's all
Speaker 5: on what you truly believe, How you truly believe what
Speaker 5: you believe. That's why you're gonna always be blessed, because
Speaker 5: it's faith. I feel like you're based off your faith.
Speaker 5: If you believe, you believe in God. Damn this iPhone,
Speaker 5: this iPhone is gonna bless me God a God, tell
Speaker 5: them God and got Noam. And and then the way
Speaker 5: your faith, the faith you put in that phone God
Speaker 5: to come because I don't feel like He gave directions
Speaker 5: on how to get to them.
Speaker 1: It just inside you watch this, it's us happening to
Speaker 1: tell it's us needing to tap into the spirit within
Speaker 1: us more than the spirits that's out here in the world. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When you tap it into that, and I can tell
Speaker 1: spreen be on that type of time, Yeah, like like you,
Speaker 1: you tap into that and you start to realize how
Speaker 1: truly powerful you are. But I know how to stand
Speaker 1: and be bringed and how to kneel and be humble
Speaker 1: because you got to be able to do both because
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. If you get to
Speaker 1: that point to where you think that you got as
Speaker 1: much power as God just because God created you, and
Speaker 1: if you think that you are a God, then it
Speaker 1: makes it to where you aren't able to kneel and
Speaker 1: submit to Nah here Nah, yeah, I guess you took
Speaker 1: that out of content. Am here. Nah you can't put
Speaker 1: yourself next to you know. I was staking over when
Speaker 1: I was thinking to Kanye West when I said that,
Speaker 1: I wasn't referring to you. I'm thinking about this interview
Speaker 1: Kanye and just did with Big Boy a couple of
Speaker 1: days ago. It came out Sunday, and as I'm watching it,
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years ago, Kanye was Diehod
Speaker 1: Christian like super you know, making gospel albums and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. Right, And now you know, he back to
Speaker 1: you putting vultures out. He back to talking about different
Speaker 1: topics and his music and all that and just on
Speaker 1: a whole different type of energy in the interview. I
Speaker 1: was like, ah, it makes sense now. He in the
Speaker 1: interview he said I am God. He said, ain't no,
Speaker 1: ain't no such thing as killing me like I am God.
Speaker 1: He was like, when I prayed to God, he didn't
Speaker 1: answer my prayers. I prayed. Jesus ain't short for me
Speaker 1: when I was going through this stuff the past few
Speaker 1: years with my family. So I got issues with Jesus.
Speaker 1: That's the sign of a man that feels like God
Speaker 1: is here to serve him instead of him being put
Speaker 1: here to serve God. Like what you saying, he said, Man,
Speaker 1: I got issues with Jesus because when I've been going
Speaker 1: through things for the past few years, Jesus ain't short
Speaker 1: for me. When I prayed, I prayed, and then what's
Speaker 1: up Jesus, God? He said, Jesus, he said, Jesus. So
Speaker 1: I'm just like, that's that's a problem. We don't realize
Speaker 1: that we are here to serve him, and Jesus is
Speaker 1: an example for us to where it's like, okay, the
Speaker 1: goal is to be as much like Jesus as possible.
Speaker 1: We're never doing because we will never be perfect. That's
Speaker 1: the goal, though, It is to be as much like
Speaker 1: Him as possible. When I wear this bracelet and stand
Speaker 1: for what would Jesus do? I first started wearing it
Speaker 1: in high school because Ada and Iverson used to wear
Speaker 1: them here. I'm a big basketball fan. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you remember Ai used to have and he used
Speaker 1: to have then elbow sleeve and all that. So I
Speaker 1: was wearing them because I used to play point guard
Speaker 1: and I was trying to be like Ai. Then I
Speaker 1: became a shoot guard. But after a while I started
Speaker 1: being like, what would Jesus do? Wow? Okay, huh in
Speaker 1: any situation I'm in, you know how they got like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm standing on business man, You're supposed to act like this.
Speaker 1: They got the g cod they got the street code,
Speaker 1: they got all these codes. Man, this is my code.
Speaker 1: What would Jesus do in this situation? When somebody does
Speaker 1: me wrong? Do I react the way Instagram telling me
Speaker 1: to react? When Rick Ross responds to me in a
Speaker 1: way that I'm like, brother, I was talking about a
Speaker 1: serious topic about your musical content. You're responding anyway that's
Speaker 1: just belittering me and disrespecting me and trying to be funny.
Speaker 1: Do I go back at him? Cuz it'd be very
Speaker 1: easy if I wanted to just make fun of him,
Speaker 1: It'll be very easy. There's a lot of things that
Speaker 1: you could talk about. But is that what Jesus would do?
Speaker 1: I don't think Jesus would do that, So hence I
Speaker 1: responded to Ross the way I responded. I don't know
Speaker 1: if any of y'all saw that video, but very widely
Speaker 1: spread video, millions of views. But it was like it
Speaker 1: wasn't me trying to go tit for tat with him.
Speaker 1: You know that ain't because that's what David wanted to do.
Speaker 1: David wanted to be like, oh boy, I'm I'm by that,
Speaker 1: roase the heck out you like you serious, not you
Speaker 1: of all people come on.
Speaker 5: But some niggas be strategically like strategizing that shit, Like
Speaker 5: you could send that line out there knowing that somebody
Speaker 5: gonna bite, and then you come back with the humble way.
Speaker 1: Like niggas do that too.
Speaker 5: Now, see, Ross can feel like that's how you try him,
Speaker 5: Like you did some shit to being on the bite
Speaker 5: de bait, and then you can come back with the
Speaker 5: humble shit and make seem like I.
Speaker 1: Went on that. But then but then you and everybody
Speaker 1: in the industry, they got a lot of people who
Speaker 1: know Homie, who know me as well, and people I
Speaker 1: know hit his line like nah, brother d One like
Speaker 1: his hand on that for real, I like his hand
Speaker 1: on that for real, You know what I mean? He
Speaker 1: ain't on what you think, and his hand really on
Speaker 1: what he on, which is bro, this dude been about
Speaker 1: this walk. He just yeah, he trying to make this
Speaker 1: world a better place. He's serving God. He on some
Speaker 1: positive stuff. And I'm just saying, like, how niggas could
Speaker 1: take it? How I could take it. I when the
Speaker 1: first time you meet somebody is through Instagram and you like,
Speaker 1: I ain't even familiar with this dude, I don't know
Speaker 1: his face, and then you can instantly respond before you
Speaker 1: even get a chance to see nigga. You can instantly, Man,
Speaker 1: what you telling me? Why I'm not That's why I'm
Speaker 1: not mad, bro, Like, I'm not mad about that stuff
Speaker 1: at all. You know, Jim Jones another one. You know,
Speaker 1: when Jim respinded GYM was very passionate, very emotional response,
Speaker 1: you know, emotionally charged. He went on swear in the
Speaker 1: morning and responded. And there's no part of me that
Speaker 1: harvards any negative feelings. I love that me and Jim
Speaker 1: have texted each other, and that's cool because the culture,
Speaker 1: the culture, the culture need to see Shannon Shaw and
Speaker 1: Mike Epps in that picture together after they was at
Speaker 1: each other top on Instagram. Because we're so used to
Speaker 1: hope they beefed out. We know what's next. We waiting
Speaker 1: to see who beat.
Speaker 2: Who up or worse that we.
Speaker 1: Were waiting for that. And it's just like it's different
Speaker 1: with this though, because they was at each other top
Speaker 1: about jokes and some foolishness with me and with different people,
Speaker 1: it was like it was in the name of like, man,
Speaker 1: we're trying to make this culture better for everybody. So
Speaker 1: it was just that y'all know nothing. Nothing ain't gonna
Speaker 1: change if we don't make our mind up that we
Speaker 1: have a problem with how certain things are gone. So
Speaker 1: let's just acknowledge that. Because I've been doing a lot
Speaker 1: of these shows lately and a lot of the topics
Speaker 1: tend to be about d one. Could you have approached
Speaker 1: this differently? And how could you have approach this differently?
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, I be kind
Speaker 1: of wondering, like, Yo, before we conclude, we need to
Speaker 1: acknowledge do y'all even feel like anything should change? Because
Speaker 1: if you don't, I'm not gonna knock you. I will
Speaker 1: still love you like equally. But if y'all don't feel
Speaker 1: like anything should change, See, I don't think Joe Bundy
Speaker 1: feels like anything should change. Therefore, he had like this
Speaker 1: negativity towards me when he like start bringing my name
Speaker 1: up on his show. That I was like, Oh, I
Speaker 1: get it. You and I are fundamentally on different pigeons.
Speaker 1: You don't think anything should change inside of hip? How
Speaker 1: I think that there are multiple things that could improve
Speaker 1: about the state of our culture, you know. And that's
Speaker 1: the thing that we got to personally acknowledge that at
Speaker 1: a certain point, do we think anything should change? And
Speaker 1: if we do, then how do we think we should
Speaker 1: go about that change? Or is it like what my
Speaker 1: brother said earlier, Like, man, I think some people just gone,
Speaker 1: they just lost it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think she thinks should change, but out of
Speaker 5: accept that they probably won't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think should change order order happened when it's
Speaker 3: supposed to happen. Like I can't make it happen today.
Speaker 3: I wish you got got in you right, You're right,
Speaker 3: but that doesn't mean that. That doesn't mean that today
Speaker 3: I can go heal the hood and make everybody be
Speaker 3: at peace. I wish I knew how what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: Don't do it. I can't. I can't.
Speaker 2: If I can't control it today.
Speaker 1: What I'm doing right by being me, I can't do it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like I go speak at
Speaker 1: schools and stuff.
Speaker 4: I do all that.
Speaker 1: And you know, I got a couple of guys that
Speaker 1: on my phone. I just tell them straight up what
Speaker 1: it is. This is what it is. He's on Instagram.
Speaker 1: If I can't do it, I can't. To me, I can't.
Speaker 5: Force I'm gonna get it to who won't. I can't
Speaker 5: force it because I know it forcing to get it,
Speaker 5: forcing to get your situation.
Speaker 1: You're gonna give it to who wanted. And based on
Speaker 1: something in the Bible, I read something right quickly, so
Speaker 1: there's a scripture from the Bible instead of us giving
Speaker 1: it to who wanted. Brother checked this out. So Jesus
Speaker 1: went out to the lake shore again and he taught
Speaker 1: the crowds that were coming to him. Right. He was
Speaker 1: out there teaching. As he walked along, he saw doing
Speaker 1: that Levi. He was the son of Alfaez sitting at
Speaker 1: his tax collectors. But he was a tax collector. Jesus
Speaker 1: told him, following me, be my disciple, Jesus said, and
Speaker 1: Levi got up and started following him. Later, Levi invited
Speaker 1: Jesus and his disciples to his crib as dinner guests,
Speaker 1: along with many tax collectors and other sinners. There were
Speaker 1: many people, many sinners and street people like this who
Speaker 1: followed Jesus. But when the teachers of the religious law
Speaker 1: the religious people saw this, they saw Jesus eating with
Speaker 1: tax collectors and sinners, they asked, why is he eating
Speaker 1: with such skum? Why he eating with people like that.
Speaker 1: When Jesus overheard them talk him, he told them healthy
Speaker 1: people don't need a die. Sick people do have come.
Speaker 1: Not to call those who already think they are righteous,
Speaker 1: but those who know that they are sinners. So the
Speaker 1: people that's out here that's like, man, I'm fed up. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm already a street dude for life. I'm like this.
Speaker 1: I done called a by there already. I dropped out
Speaker 1: of high school. Da da da. Jesus is like you
Speaker 1: exactly what I'm looking for, You exactly who I'm trying
Speaker 1: to be cool with you. I'm trying to build with
Speaker 1: you because I'm trying to get you to see that
Speaker 1: there's nothing that you could do it will disqualify this
Speaker 1: in the love of God. So with that being said,
Speaker 1: the philosophy of I'm gonna give it to who want it,
Speaker 1: Like that goes against what Jesus said. Of course that's
Speaker 1: easy give it to the people who want it. But
Speaker 1: the people who need it, who you were blessed to
Speaker 1: be skilled enough to reach them. Ninety nine percent of
Speaker 1: the world can't reach them, but you could because of
Speaker 1: the unique gifts and life stories that you got. Man,
Speaker 1: you gotta do that. Even if they don't want it,
Speaker 1: they need it, And that's what I'm wanting, bro.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I ain't gonna force them. I'm gonna do
Speaker 5: it right here, like bro, bringing you on, rang people on.
Speaker 5: So people want to get it, get it right here.
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna be out trying to do all that,
Speaker 5: like just forcing it. Yeah you can't, yeah, cause it don't.
Speaker 5: It never the same with me.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I wanted to it, I can go
Speaker 1: to qu in Atlanta. I can go to q See
Speaker 1: Studios right now and just wait for whichever all this
Speaker 1: pull up first and be like, dam I'm about to
Speaker 1: just minister to this person right now. Hey brother, you
Speaker 1: could do better. Man, You about to go in there
Speaker 1: and wrap Yeah, Like you can't do that, man, And
Speaker 1: that's why I don't do it. I don't do that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like push it out like because you pushing
Speaker 5: out some deep ship and like, I don't disagree with
Speaker 5: nothing ship you're saying because it's your perspective.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get you to see like a
Speaker 1: different perspective and know and and I appreciate it. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I think that these are the type of
Speaker 1: convos people lives are gonna be changed. Though it's count
Speaker 1: I've never said that in the interview before. I don't
Speaker 1: cry the interviews. I didn't reveal real personal stuff before.
Speaker 1: I didn't been like I said Breakfast Club that was
Speaker 1: on my Mount Rushmore. You heard me at Breakfast Club,
Speaker 1: like for me from ten years ago. I was on
Speaker 1: the BT site from ten years ago and Charlomagne tweeted, Man,
Speaker 1: this dude, d one, spit it. You heard me in
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. I was like, oh, I be at Breakfast
Speaker 1: Club in the next couple of months. It took ten years.
Speaker 1: I finally went on there two weeks ago. When I'm
Speaker 1: on there, I'm like, man, this right here, this is everything,
Speaker 1: and what God told me was d this is a
Speaker 1: blessing and I'm glad you feel good right now, but
Speaker 1: there's more work to be done. So don't feel like, oh,
Speaker 1: you made it now because you reached what was at
Speaker 1: the top of your mountain. In terms of that cause,
Speaker 1: although people got blessed by that Breakfast Club interview, I
Speaker 1: know people been blessed by it. This interview right here,
Speaker 1: I could feel it, bro, just what we talk about
Speaker 1: in the perspectives we are. People are gonna be blessed
Speaker 1: by this because at the end of the day, I'm
Speaker 1: walking out of here feeling like, look, I had a
Speaker 1: mess scream years ago. You know, my man DJ Hectic
Speaker 1: real cool with you. We meet each other and we
Speaker 1: seen each other in the streets before this. We definitely
Speaker 1: gonna dap off his love. I see baby Jane, you
Speaker 1: know at my man mister Jay Hills podcast, matter the
Speaker 1: fact that you came to be on that. We see
Speaker 1: y'all ad the YouTube event down here. It's love. We're
Speaker 1: gonna hug you know what I'm saying, But that's probably it.
Speaker 1: I see you, man, you know what I mean. We
Speaker 1: same thing, bro, it's love. We know some of the
Speaker 1: same people. Right but after this, Bro, when I see
Speaker 1: y'all or it's an extra tight hug. It's look, make
Speaker 1: sure y'all got my number, because if y'all need something,
Speaker 1: hit my line and I'm gonna tap it with y'all
Speaker 1: and a plug.
Speaker 4: Y'all.
Speaker 1: When I see boy, that was hard they interview you did.
Speaker 1: That's why I like that mixtape. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying That that business move. It feels like a different
Speaker 1: connection now, all because of some communication. That's the power
Speaker 1: of communication, man, respect So hopefully the culture could see
Speaker 1: that and not hopefully a lot of people go see that,
Speaker 1: but sometime they could be seeing something and be like
Speaker 1: this moving to me, but I don't even know what
Speaker 1: it is. I'm telling y'all what it is. This is
Speaker 1: the power of communicating with people who y'all might have
Speaker 1: different viewpoints, but y'all can all learn from each other
Speaker 1: and y'all all looking to grow. Hopefully, you gotta have
Speaker 1: these type of moments. If you just say I ain't
Speaker 1: on what he on, I ain't know what she on
Speaker 1: forget them and then close your mind.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't close your mind, because everybody got valid
Speaker 5: points in her moments.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying from their own perspective. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying the facts. Bro. This this, this
Speaker 1: has been a blessing, man, And I ain't trying to
Speaker 1: cut it. We go ten more hours if y'all want to,
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying right now, like I'm just feeling,
Speaker 1: like you know, when I play sports, like it reaches
Speaker 1: a point to where when the clock here zero, you
Speaker 1: be like, boy, I gave it all I had, so
Speaker 1: we lose or draw. That was everything I had in
Speaker 1: me and I'm at peace because of that. That's how
Speaker 1: I feel right now in this interview. More importantly, that's
Speaker 1: how I want us to all feel at the end
Speaker 1: of his life. Bro. That's how I want us to
Speaker 1: all feel, bro. Like this is how we do it. Man.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful.
Speaker 4: D One.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you, my brother.
Speaker 3: Officially the longest Big Fact conversation ever three plus hour hours. Yes, sir,
Speaker 3: didn't even feel like it right didn't feel like it.
Speaker 3: We're definitely gonna do something again, for sure. I think
Speaker 3: we all committed to that for sure. Y'all tap in
Speaker 3: with D One in this movement. Everything he got going on.
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