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Speaker 5: In today's episode, Oh it's a requiem. It's episode two
Speaker 5: oh six of Dad everl Born Again, And if you
Speaker 5: remember what happened at the end of last episode, you
Speaker 5: may be in for a great shock how crazy things
Speaker 5: are about to go. And then we'll of course be
Speaker 5: bringing in Aaron for discussions. He's gonna have some vital
Speaker 5: questions for us in the wake of episode two six.
Speaker 3: So yeah, let's get to recapping.
Speaker 2: Darrivil Episode two o six requiem fisk is Shattered is bad?
Speaker 3: Let us?
Speaker 2: The thing that I think we all saw coming when
Speaker 2: doctor Murati first came in last the previous episode.
Speaker 3: Why did he take this job to take what is
Speaker 3: doing on the mayor.
Speaker 1: About how he was going to do everything he could do.
Speaker 3: Happles.
Speaker 2: Doctor Murati comes in to pay his respects which I'm
Speaker 2: sorry everybody, like doctor Muratty, take the day.
Speaker 3: Go in there, leave, go Elope, go to.
Speaker 1: The Berkshires or something.
Speaker 5: I know I might go to your summer house in
Speaker 5: the South of France. Book it, get out of tell
Speaker 5: your family like, do not go in then offer this
Speaker 5: manual condolences when you could not get the piece of
Speaker 5: crystal in and hit the shape of his own face
Speaker 5: that killed his.
Speaker 3: Wife out of her head. Come on, my guy.
Speaker 2: So he comes to pay his respects, and of course
Speaker 2: Fisk seeming as if he's going to embrace doctor muraty.
Speaker 3: Oh, He's like, can I have a hug?
Speaker 2: I need him up and breaks every vertebrae in his back,
Speaker 2: squeezes him, just.
Speaker 3: Popping each dudude. I love it when Wilson gets like
Speaker 3: a little.
Speaker 2: Plastic packing bubbles pop pop all the way up.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, and then just leaves and he just leaves them.
Speaker 3: Rob This man just leaves bodies in his weight.
Speaker 5: He does not care, like there's no question who killed
Speaker 5: that man, like there's no plausible deniability, like you were
Speaker 5: in there.
Speaker 3: He is crushed, like he was put into one of
Speaker 3: those you know.
Speaker 5: Viral kind of crushing things that everyone loves to see
Speaker 5: things pop out of I think everyone's gonna know it
Speaker 5: was Wilson Fist. But you can't just leave him there,
Speaker 5: like put him in the incinerator. He's too awful, he's
Speaker 5: too crazy. This is what we were saying last week.
Speaker 5: This is not Mad Wilson Fisk. This is Matt Kingpin.
Speaker 2: Vanessa gets a huge funeral and of course everybody shows up,
Speaker 2: and Fisk can't even sit through the whole thing.
Speaker 1: He's so broken up, he's so.
Speaker 2: Shattered about it, and you just know that he's about
Speaker 2: to go fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: He's gonna go nuts.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Matt and Karen are nursing Decks back to health.
Speaker 2: But remember Dex was gut shot by Vanessa Fiske's little
Speaker 2: little derringer silver plated Deringer pistol, and mister Charles doing
Speaker 2: the brad Pitt for Motions eleven eating thing. Now this
Speaker 2: is he wasn't doing it early, but then he started
Speaker 2: doing it in the middle of the season.
Speaker 3: No, you know what he did it when he first
Speaker 3: showed up.
Speaker 5: He did in Albanya because he was eating the hero
Speaker 5: and he was like, you know, they have hero king
Speaker 5: out here.
Speaker 3: But the first time we saw him.
Speaker 5: He was just drinking, so it's not from the beginning,
Speaker 5: but it's like it definitely is this thing.
Speaker 3: But it also feels weird because we haven't seen him
Speaker 3: last episode like a tool. So uh.
Speaker 5: But yeah, he loves he loves eating. I guess that's
Speaker 5: like his that's his comfort thing.
Speaker 2: So he's eating and he goes to see the crates
Speaker 2: of stuff, his stuff that is trapped, you know, in
Speaker 2: Fisk's warehouse, and they start popping it open. The task
Speaker 2: Force gets all new weaponry now because I guess they
Speaker 2: get to dip into mister Charles's stuff. And Uh Saunders,
Speaker 2: Officer Saunders, the uh undercover resistance officer is there watching
Speaker 2: all this stuff getting unpacked, and he's not He looks
Speaker 2: too nervous, like he's not yet.
Speaker 3: Be more cool, man.
Speaker 1: You gotta cool out, man, if you're gonna do this thing.
Speaker 3: He's like the.
Speaker 2: Eyes wide, looking back and forth, looking at everything.
Speaker 3: It's like, calm down, man, exactly.
Speaker 2: Armed guys show up outside of a beautiful home somewhere
Speaker 2: out in the country, somewhere it's gorgeous, looks like a say,
Speaker 2: New York, yeah, Woodstock or something like that, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 1: Hudson Valley, beautiful place in the Hudson.
Speaker 2: The mom goes out and absolutely rerex fucking house just
Speaker 2: throws them all around.
Speaker 3: It's a very many getting killed.
Speaker 5: They're getting like smashed against windows.
Speaker 3: Thrown fifty seat into the room down.
Speaker 2: It's very easy for her because she is Jessica Jones
Speaker 2: and she's finally showed up.
Speaker 3: You wanted it, you said, guys, what is she?
Speaker 5: I need to see Jessica, And I have to say,
Speaker 5: this is one of the coolest entry points and entry
Speaker 5: sequences that we've seen, especially.
Speaker 3: Because of what it goes on to reveal.
Speaker 2: So she goes inside, she finds her daughter with with
Speaker 2: Luke of course, playing with the gage, takes the.
Speaker 1: Grenade from her.
Speaker 2: Matt and Karen call Angela and her aunt to try
Speaker 2: and you know, get some better medical care for Decks
Speaker 2: because they don't know what they're doing, and Decks is
Speaker 2: like bleeding out. Angela says that, well, you know, like
Speaker 2: the city is in mourning for Vanessa, but many people
Speaker 2: are also mad at Fisk for everything, including murdering two
Speaker 2: people in three nights, the guy in the boxing gym,
Speaker 2: his opponent who he murdered in the ring, and doctor Mrani,
Speaker 2: who he just recently jellified, who, by the way, was
Speaker 2: like the world's best like neuros.
Speaker 3: He's gone, well, like he's they just took that away.
Speaker 1: Because no longer it's saving lives.
Speaker 2: Karen tries to get Angela's Karen's like, it's too much heat.
Speaker 2: You know, the task force is going crazy out there.
Speaker 2: You gotta lay low, but she won't.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, they do not know.
Speaker 2: That Christophe is dead. They don't know that that happened.
Speaker 2: They don't know that he's been cut up and buried
Speaker 2: in a grave, and upset her, Karen wants to talk
Speaker 2: about Bullseye and all the people that Bullseye is murdered.
Speaker 2: And it's a lot of people. I mean, it's got
Speaker 2: to be in the fifties or sixties or seventies.
Speaker 3: Oh at least maybe a hundred.
Speaker 5: I know, you think it might be a hundreds, Agatha,
Speaker 5: but I do think if you think about the injuries
Speaker 5: from the first season of Dead Evil Born Again and
Speaker 5: how many people were injured in that bombing and the
Speaker 5: shoot agg Oh.
Speaker 1: The casualties.
Speaker 2: The casualties just like non fatal casualties, Like if you
Speaker 2: just put all the casualties in a pool, it's probably like.
Speaker 5: Four hundred, yeah, exactly, And I so I think that
Speaker 5: definitely between like seventy five to one hundred deaths.
Speaker 1: I think four hundred total casualties. So like, yes, Karen
Speaker 1: is like, you know, we what are we doing? And
Speaker 1: she also says like you should have let him kill Fisk?
Speaker 1: Why did you stop it?
Speaker 5: Like seriously, Matthew, Karen is like, if you don't want
Speaker 5: me to kill and you don't want Frank to kill,
Speaker 5: let this man kill.
Speaker 3: He'd kill.
Speaker 1: He's already got eighty seven bodies on him.
Speaker 3: Exactly, like he's going to hell. Oh what does it cost? Man?
Speaker 1: Is of course little boy scout.
Speaker 2: Matt is against it, and you know, Karen is still
Speaker 2: dealing with the fact that she killed Wesley and she's
Speaker 2: you know, haunted by this, and she she's basically saying, like,
Speaker 2: I'm haunted by this. I can't imagine like what fucking
Speaker 2: Dex is dealing with. They argue about like what to
Speaker 2: do If it's either Fisk or Matt like the what then?
Speaker 5: Yeah, are you gonna kill in then? Matt like or
Speaker 5: are you gonna like sacrifice yourself? This woman loves you?
Speaker 2: Yes, then Karen gets a text with the address to
Speaker 2: a meeting and she tells Matt that, and she tells
Speaker 2: Matt about this text, and he goes off to this meeting,
Speaker 2: leaving Bullseye with Karen, which is like, what a pair.
Speaker 1: Of these two are.
Speaker 2: At the wake, the governor, it's nice of her, a
Speaker 2: pair of respects, and this is of course her one,
Speaker 2: her one hope in kind of yeah, bringing Fisk to
Speaker 2: heal somewhat was Vanessa at the At the wake, the
Speaker 2: governor and Sheila discuss Fisk, and the Governor's like, listen,
Speaker 2: I want I need Fisk to like wind the whole
Speaker 2: thing down, the safe streets, the anti Vigilanta campaign, all
Speaker 2: that I needed all of it to start.
Speaker 5: Insane OSK Now Vanessa is dead, Like you know that's
Speaker 5: not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Can you, like what about you? And she's like, you know,
Speaker 2: have you ever thought about being mayor? Because maybe, like
Speaker 2: if something, if Fisk were to be thrown out of office,
Speaker 2: maybe if you got in there with my support. Basically,
Speaker 2: she's saying, would you wind all this stuff down?
Speaker 5: I feel like she needs to approach any woman who
Speaker 5: has nothing to do with Fisk. Why is she always
Speaker 5: going into his office and being like.
Speaker 3: You're May, You're May, You're a mare. It's like, come on,
Speaker 3: just find any other candidate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's very clear that the Governor's is thinking
Speaker 2: about like getting Fisk out of there. Somehow, BB tries
Speaker 2: to take Dan out for his birthday, but he's finally
Speaker 2: playing hard to get with BB because mainly because he's
Speaker 2: scared that like further involvement with BB is gonna like
Speaker 2: get her killed. But BBE is really really pressing, and
Speaker 2: Dan is like, no, I'm going to my mom's house.
Speaker 2: And of course, of course it is Staten Island, by
Speaker 2: the way, of course he lives.
Speaker 3: Of course, like we knew it.
Speaker 1: BIB is like, well, I'll go with.
Speaker 2: You to your mom's free broken that'd be great, Like
Speaker 2: will you hang out with your mom? And meanwhile, but
Speaker 2: and then Buck comes over to put even more pressure on,
Speaker 2: and Dan is like flipping out about the fact that
Speaker 2: he helped cut up christophin bury him in a fucking green.
Speaker 3: He's so stressed.
Speaker 5: And also it's like he's just had like what would
Speaker 5: have been the best day of his life.
Speaker 2: Otherwise yes, you know, it's like she's chasing him now.
Speaker 2: Bibe is chasing him now, and Buck is like, well, listen,
Speaker 2: you're a made man in the fiscal organization now because
Speaker 2: you now you have you have blood on your hands,
Speaker 2: which means you're a maid guy. And all you need
Speaker 2: to do to really cement your position as like you know,
Speaker 2: who knows how high you could go is find out
Speaker 2: if BB is the leak, And this is how you
Speaker 2: do it. You do the tyry in Lanister you her,
Speaker 2: which is also the Miami Vice movie version.
Speaker 1: You feed her some false.
Speaker 2: Information and you see if it comes out in the
Speaker 2: in those Fisk reports or the BB reporter anywhere else,
Speaker 2: and if it does so, then you know for a fact.
Speaker 1: She's she's leaking.
Speaker 2: Mister Charles calls Fisk and is like, where's my shit, man,
Speaker 2: where's my guns? Where's my you know, where's my little pistols,
Speaker 2: where's my provate launchers, where's my bulletproof vests, where's my
Speaker 2: kevlar helmets. I don't care that your wife is dead,
Speaker 2: he says, crazy thing to say, because you picked the
Speaker 2: wrong one on the wrong day.
Speaker 1: And he's like, I want my stuff. We had a deal.
Speaker 2: It's millions of dollars worth of stuff, and I want it,
Speaker 2: and I don't care that you're sad because your wife
Speaker 2: died in Fisk.
Speaker 1: Hans out.
Speaker 2: People are and this is crazy. People are laying flowers
Speaker 2: like she's the Queen Princes die candle in the wind
Speaker 2: type behavior. They're fucking laying flowers on the steps of
Speaker 2: city all grace ement and it's just insane that they're
Speaker 2: doing this, but so silly, as Angela said, some people
Speaker 2: are upset also, and some protesters show up to picket
Speaker 2: the flower.
Speaker 5: Lake, which is also crazy because I have seen many
Speaker 5: things that many protests, but picketing people laying flowers like sure.
Speaker 2: Guys, okay, okay, what are we doing. Darren Nevil goes
Speaker 2: to the spot and it's Jessica. He's meeting, and she's like, Matt,
Speaker 2: things are getting crazy now because Task Force guys came
Speaker 2: up to my house in upstate New York. They're not
Speaker 2: even in the New York metropolitan limits and they're going
Speaker 2: all over the place. They're not intern have jurisdictions up there,
Speaker 2: but they came up there to kill me. And she
Speaker 2: says that it's because the US government is backing Fisk.
Speaker 2: And we know this because of mister Charles and his
Speaker 2: mister instrictions, She says, someone at the agency, which we
Speaker 2: would assume to be the CIA, now that the Shield
Speaker 2: has been defunct and the CIA is mainly taking over
Speaker 2: kind of domestic superhero intelligence type operations, even though technically,
Speaker 2: from a purely legal perspective, the CIA is not allowed
Speaker 2: to operate actively in the geographic United States. But that's fine,
Speaker 2: she says, some one of the agency is trying to
Speaker 2: collect super powered individuals, and we know this has gotta
Speaker 2: be the contessaf Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think it's Contessa, And I think this is also
Speaker 5: meant to make us think of powerbroker Sharon Carr and
Speaker 5: kind of this idea. Yeah, I know, we love Sharon Carr,
Speaker 5: bring her back into this crazy situation because also it
Speaker 5: seems like Jessica and mister Charles like that she seems
Speaker 5: to have knowledge of whatever's going on with the government,
Speaker 5: Like there's more hair to be unpacked, and I'm very
Speaker 5: excited to see where that goes. Because we know that
Speaker 5: Charles works for Contessa. We know that that's been confirmed, right,
Speaker 5: but like why he thought or she thought that they
Speaker 5: could go to Jessica Jones's. They obviously don't know that
Speaker 5: much about her powers then, you know, so it's this
Speaker 5: kind of interesting like how much did they know? Do
Speaker 5: they have a kind of files on these people? Was
Speaker 5: that lost off the shield?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 5: Are they having to kind of an hydra? Are they
Speaker 5: having to kind of rebuild that? Are they trying to
Speaker 5: find superheroes who are outside of the you know usual
Speaker 5: because this for Covier Accords, the defunct that's true, you know,
Speaker 5: it's interesting.
Speaker 2: So Jessica basically says that Luke joined up with this
Speaker 2: government backed CIA back crazy superhero group to do probably
Speaker 2: like secret missions like across the globe, right, black black
Speaker 2: site type missions, black bag missions, mm hmm. And she
Speaker 2: doesn't say it out right, but she suggests that Luke
Speaker 2: was involved in it. Yeah, And she's a little banged
Speaker 2: up from the fight at her house, and she tells
Speaker 2: Matt that something ever since the birth of the child,
Speaker 2: something's been going on with her powers. They kind of
Speaker 2: come and go like she's he's super strong, and then
Speaker 2: it's gone, and then she's super strong, and then it'll
Speaker 2: be just like you have to plug it in and
Speaker 2: plug it, you know, unplug it, plug it back into. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: Matt sneaks into the warehouse, the area where the red
Speaker 2: Hook area where all the crates of guns are are
Speaker 2: being hidden. He's there with Jessica. They're looking at the stuff.
Speaker 2: They go in, they take for they take out all
Speaker 2: the task Force guys. Powell almost kills Jessica when her
Speaker 2: power frits out. We see this now that the powers
Speaker 2: kind of fritz out, but Matt saves her and then
Speaker 2: the explosives in the crate go off.
Speaker 1: Let's go to a quick break and we'll be ripped.
Speaker 3: And we're back.
Speaker 2: Heather is up in the private quarters of Vanessa and
Speaker 2: Wilson Fisk for the wait crazy scene.
Speaker 5: I have been waiting to get to this scene, freaky
Speaker 5: shit fust ever time that we would started recording these episodes.
Speaker 3: Baby girl.
Speaker 2: Heather is on a journey of self discovery right now,
Speaker 2: and part of it involves snooping around Vanessa and Wilson's
Speaker 2: fucking bedroom.
Speaker 1: She steals like an ear ring.
Speaker 3: I know. I'm like, okay, okay, are you a serial killer?
Speaker 5: Is this a trophy? Did you kill Vanessa? Is it
Speaker 5: because you miss her? It's really weird. Also, I would say,
Speaker 5: like get a ring or something worth more money, because
Speaker 5: I know that that that jewelry box is worth millions.
Speaker 2: Buck comes in and I immediately starts sweating from my
Speaker 2: brow because I listen Disney Marvel stuff in the eighth
Speaker 2: We've we've just been on these mics talking about the
Speaker 2: MCU needs to get more sexy.
Speaker 1: And I didn't think it would happen like this.
Speaker 2: Because we did something whoa.
Speaker 3: We manifest I just did this into being by a
Speaker 3: monkey's poor because we can because.
Speaker 2: Street level Marvel on Disney Plus is going into some
Speaker 2: fifty sheets of great type shit.
Speaker 3: He isn't.
Speaker 2: He's not suspicious at all that he found heather snooping
Speaker 2: around and Vanessa's ship. He seems to think like he's
Speaker 2: that she's broken up over and he's like, you know
Speaker 2: what can I do to help? And she's like, well,
Speaker 2: you know what I keep seeing muse choking me. He's
Speaker 2: choking me. He's choking me. He's choking me. And Buck
Speaker 2: is like, well, would it help if you choked me?
Speaker 5: He's like, how.
Speaker 3: About what I immersion? What like?
Speaker 5: It's like reverse immersion therapy, like you put your hands
Speaker 5: around my neck.
Speaker 3: She's been practicing that, great Jason for a reason.
Speaker 2: Well, I gotta tell you, I don't think Buck is
Speaker 2: thinking about reverse immersion. Get your hands around my fucking neck,
Speaker 2: and let's see what happens in Wilson's bedroom. And they
Speaker 2: just kes him and she starts freakingly choking him.
Speaker 1: She is, I gotta say, I'm not sure the grip.
Speaker 2: She needs to do more work in the grip she's
Speaker 2: doing okay, he puffs out his neck. She's really going
Speaker 2: to town. She's squeezing the ship.
Speaker 3: She needs to learn more. It's more about squeezing on
Speaker 3: the side.
Speaker 1: It's gotta squeeze on the side. You don't have to
Speaker 1: squeeze on the front. Yeah, that's like you're wasting energy.
Speaker 3: That's like you're gonna kill someone.
Speaker 2: And and she's like she's crying, She's like breathing heavy.
Speaker 1: It's like, is she liking this? Is she hating it?
Speaker 2: Is she feelss like what is coming up? A lot
Speaker 2: of things are coming up? A lot of things. She is,
Speaker 2: I mean, she's going to town on it. And then
Speaker 2: she lets go, big gas, she let's go and Buck
Speaker 2: is like, you feel better now, and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel better.
Speaker 5: He's we just seen I don't know, because I love
Speaker 5: the fact that, like all Buck wanted.
Speaker 3: Just to get choked. That didn't go anywhere.
Speaker 5: They didn't fuck on the fisks bed like, he just
Speaker 5: wanted to feel a woman choke him out.
Speaker 3: And I respect that.
Speaker 2: I respected, And he found the perfect one who wants
Speaker 2: to do it, needs to do it.
Speaker 3: It's like deep how faulta.
Speaker 2: It's deeply moving for her to do it. Meanwhile, Dan
Speaker 2: and Biebe, other couples, it's working in the show. Dan
Speaker 2: and Biebe take the ferry to snat An Island. Dan
Speaker 2: makes a whole big thing about about this and then
Speaker 2: gives Bbe the fake infoe and it's like, listen, I
Speaker 2: got I heard something crazy.
Speaker 5: This is the most obvious fake news ever liked. She no, instantly,
Speaker 5: you just.
Speaker 1: Can't tell anybody.
Speaker 2: But this is really only because we're friends and you know,
Speaker 2: like I have you over for dinner and all this stuff,
Speaker 2: and we went to the boxing match together, and this
Speaker 2: is just because we are so close. Mayor Fisk is
Speaker 2: not going to run for reelection. He's gonna in LBJ
Speaker 2: in sixty eight and he's not going to run.
Speaker 1: BB is like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Powell goes up to the resistance cop Saunders and
Speaker 2: it was like, hey, hed you drop this and it's
Speaker 2: the ID that he had slipped to Max.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, I heard you lost yours.
Speaker 5: So it's unclear if it's the same one or if
Speaker 5: it's a new one, because they say they like change
Speaker 5: every twenty four hours.
Speaker 3: But yeah, basically they know, or they at least suspect.
Speaker 2: They at least suspect because you know, we just got hit,
Speaker 2: like our crates got hit in the same twenty four
Speaker 2: hour window when you lost your ID, So like they
Speaker 2: clearly know. Meanwhile, back in the Punisher basement, Karen is
Speaker 2: just like staring at Decks, who is like passed out.
Speaker 1: She kicks him awake. He finds that he's handcuffed to the.
Speaker 5: Oh oh my god, Karen, she's channeling her boyfriend.
Speaker 3: She loves it.
Speaker 2: She loves Frank. And then she starts talking about Foggy, like, tell,
Speaker 2: what's going on with Foggy? You killed Foggy? How dare
Speaker 2: you kill Foggy?
Speaker 1: Do you feel bad about it? Like why do you
Speaker 1: have to do it?
Speaker 2: And Dex is like not, He's I don't think he's
Speaker 2: capable of feeling bad about it.
Speaker 3: He's not.
Speaker 5: But also he's doing a much worss job in this
Speaker 5: conversation than he did to Matt, where when he brings
Speaker 5: up to Matt, he does try and be like I'm sorry,
Speaker 5: like I was in a bad place.
Speaker 3: But with Karen he's just like eh, it's like, no,
Speaker 3: she's gonna kill you. Maybe he wants suicide by Karen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he might want that. So and there's a lot, man,
Speaker 1: there's some there is.
Speaker 2: A sexual charge under this entire My god, dude, seriously,
Speaker 2: like everyone says the fuck and things might calm down
Speaker 2: everything that happens after Heather and Buck hits in a
Speaker 2: different way. So she puts a gun to Dex's head,
Speaker 2: but then of course Matt comes in knocks the gun
Speaker 2: out of her hand, and it's.
Speaker 1: Like what are you doing?
Speaker 3: What are you doing?
Speaker 2: And she's like I think you're choosing Fisk over me
Speaker 2: and Foggy wow, which is it's not She's not wrong,
Speaker 2: and she's like, Matt, let me kill Decks and no,
Speaker 2: and he and she storms off.
Speaker 3: Dude, I love how like this is the this is
Speaker 3: the thing. Right.
Speaker 5: Matt thinks he's like such a healthy good guy because
Speaker 5: he's like, don't kill this guy.
Speaker 3: But it's like this is a toxic relationship.
Speaker 5: You're not supposed to be like handcuffing people to courts
Speaker 5: and thinking and arguing either whether or not you're allowed
Speaker 5: to kill them.
Speaker 3: My friend, like, this is bad.
Speaker 1: What have you become? Have you become?
Speaker 2: The protest at city Hall is getting really really spicy now.
Speaker 2: Powell is like, Yeah, we'll get to get out there,
Speaker 2: bust up fucking heads. He's fucking rock hard bricktop that
Speaker 2: kills a He can't wait, And he's really really really
Speaker 2: taking a special interest in and Resistance Officer Saunders now
Speaker 2: and just really like watching him closely and like, you know,
Speaker 2: patting him too hard on the back and all that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. Dan's mom, who meanwhile has a Fisk
Speaker 2: flag hanging from the front of her house that is
Speaker 2: very much a Trump.
Speaker 1: Flag like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, we're not even We're not fucking around.
Speaker 3: There's no analogus anymore. True.
Speaker 2: Just text Bbe, you know, they're they're in there and
Speaker 2: they're just chatting about stuff. Bbe sneaks away and types
Speaker 2: out the fake intel about Fisk to someone, but then
Speaker 2: doesn't send it.
Speaker 5: She's like, yeah, they like conflict because she's in his
Speaker 5: like Staten Island seventies ass bathroom, like yeah, oh fuck,
Speaker 5: but it's interesting because like she's snooping and then he's snooping,
Speaker 5: and like there's like this very interesting little jewel snooping
Speaker 5: and you're like, just have a fucking conversation.
Speaker 3: Guys, because you actually do care about each other.
Speaker 1: So ultimately she doesn't send it.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, nightfalls and the protesters take out daredevil masks and
Speaker 2: they'll put on daredevils. The governor comes home to discover
Speaker 2: that mister Charles is there with his shoes off, and
Speaker 2: he's like, I'm here to solve your Fisk problem. I'm
Speaker 2: going to take care of it for you. As they're leaving,
Speaker 2: Dan pulls out the sty card he found in Beebe's
Speaker 2: pocket and he says, I don't know if I can
Speaker 2: protect you from from Buck Cashman m h. And meanwhile
Speaker 2: they see on the news that the protest is really
Speaker 2: starting to heat up. Fisk meanwhile, is like fucking catatonic.
Speaker 2: He's out, he's out a bit bad. It's not Greg Gwelf,
Speaker 2: so he hasn't showered probably and.
Speaker 5: Still got those rolls of like muscle, yeah, sticky and
Speaker 5: gunky with blood from his mud.
Speaker 1: As the various murders. He's committed. Buck comes in and
Speaker 1: is like, the governor is moving against you.
Speaker 2: Huh. She's going to meet with the Attorney General of
Speaker 2: the state and they're going to try and like reel
Speaker 2: you in, try and you know, diminish you down. At
Speaker 2: the protest, meanwhile, someone, some tech savvy person, has taking
Speaker 2: out a projector and they are projecting the resistance testimonials
Speaker 2: that were taped by Karen and Matt and interviewed by
Speaker 2: the McDuffie interviews, and they're playing them up on the
Speaker 2: side of City Hall, which is very effective, and the
Speaker 2: crowd is getting fired up. Fisk goes to his desk
Speaker 2: and Matt comes to see him. Matt is like, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm really sorry about Vanessa. It's just like, guys, what
Speaker 2: it was. And Matt is like, listen, I got a deal.
Speaker 2: What if we both leave New York. Our rivalry is
Speaker 2: tearing the city up, and look at look at what's
Speaker 2: going on outside. You know, it's just you're a psycho.
Speaker 2: You've killed so many people. You've killed two people in
Speaker 2: the last three days, including a world renowned neurosurgeon who
Speaker 2: is trying to save your wife's life. One would even
Speaker 2: say that you caused your wife's life.
Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna go there, not gonna go to that.
Speaker 2: But somebody right now. But I don't doubt I don't
Speaker 2: doubt that you like me, Wilson. Fisk love New York City.
Speaker 2: You love the city, and so let's save the city
Speaker 2: by leaving no answer. At this time, Karen and and
Speaker 2: Javi and Angela go masked to the protest. They got it.
Speaker 2: It's getting hot down there. Meanwhile, madd and Fisk start fighting.
Speaker 2: Now they're just gonna fight, just as Buck tells the
Speaker 2: Task Force people go out there and just let's start
Speaker 2: mowing the protesters down. And he kills Saunders in front
Speaker 2: of everyone.
Speaker 3: Crazy and then he's like the vigilattis.
Speaker 2: Data in the head and the Task Force knocks Job
Speaker 2: and Karen down and since and then they send Angela
Speaker 2: like to go get help. Fisk meanwhile is really fucking
Speaker 2: mad up. But Matt, like, is Matt gonna be out?
Speaker 5: I thought it was going to be for this last
Speaker 5: couple of episodes, because like it looked like some get
Speaker 5: in his way with Charlie that it was crazy.
Speaker 2: But then Matt similarly stuns Fisk with like a power
Speaker 2: knee right to gin.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was giving video game for sure.
Speaker 2: And as this is happening outside, Powell arrests Karen in
Speaker 2: the midst of the crowd. And that is the end
Speaker 2: of our episode of fucking crazy lot of things.
Speaker 5: If you would just let your girlfriend kill coindexta, she
Speaker 5: wouldn't be out on the streets right now.
Speaker 3: She'd be busy killing him, you know, just saying, I mean,
Speaker 3: that's my boy, but just saying, come on, let's go
Speaker 3: to a.
Speaker 2: Break and then we will welcome super producer Aaron In
Speaker 2: and we will talk about this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are back.
Speaker 1: Welcome eron.
Speaker 4: Hey everyone, I uh, loose fitting T shirt today. I
Speaker 4: don't want too much constricting my neck. You know, got
Speaker 4: a little here.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, but if you didn't, if you did
Speaker 2: want it to constrict your neck, that's fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as long as.
Speaker 1: It's your choice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, as long.
Speaker 5: As it's you are the cash man and you are
Speaker 5: able to say, please do this to me.
Speaker 4: I actually think Buck didn't get he got a raw
Speaker 4: deal there. He was looking for a little more. I
Speaker 4: think I think it the.
Speaker 1: D I mean, it seemed like a little more.
Speaker 2: Here's here's what I'll say a little more is gonna happen.
Speaker 2: It doesn't end there, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: whether it's right now, next week, whatever it's happening, what
Speaker 2: whatever that.
Speaker 3: Was, that's not over, that's not over.
Speaker 1: They will get there.
Speaker 4: I do want like a little couple's check, you know,
Speaker 4: Matt and Karen. I feel like their relationship took a
Speaker 4: little bit of a hit this week. They're they're eternal
Speaker 4: fight of do we kill people? Do we not kill people?
Speaker 1: Get on and make a choice, let's do you're your thoughts.
Speaker 4: I think that we're building to a point. We'll get
Speaker 4: to this in the death pool too. But I wonder,
Speaker 4: now is it going to be Karen's death that brings
Speaker 4: Matt over the edge? Like is that what needs to happen?
Speaker 1: He just can't do it.
Speaker 4: We've we've paraded out Foggy's dead bodies so often this season,
Speaker 4: all with like hey, Dex keep saying his name. Okay,
Speaker 4: don't worry. Now Karen is bringing up Foggy because of
Speaker 4: Dex okay, and now Misk and Matt are talking about
Speaker 4: it at the end here, like what do you ever
Speaker 4: imagine what would have happened if we never met Foggy
Speaker 4: and Vanessa would still be alive like what he's to now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you can't bring Karen back and then
Speaker 2: kill her. And I also think they've done too much
Speaker 2: work building her up to be a lady punisher type.
Speaker 1: And again, as.
Speaker 2: We've said all along, I really do think the Matt
Speaker 2: Frank Karen triangle is so good if they can get
Speaker 2: that up and so juicy that it's you can't kill
Speaker 2: her now. I mean she'll be in danger, of course,
Speaker 2: but I don't think I think she will live.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think you know, it was notable in
Speaker 4: I think it was the last episode when they said
Speaker 4: their first I love you is on screen, and in
Speaker 4: this one they did not. We did not get in
Speaker 4: my love And look, as everyone who's been in a
Speaker 4: relationship can say, I think that first time you both
Speaker 4: say I love you is exhilarating and I think you're
Speaker 4: you're aching to do it the second time. So for
Speaker 4: them to not say it here, we're seeing a little
Speaker 4: a little bit of division and and.
Speaker 3: I like couples.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, I need to know what you think about
Speaker 5: Heather and Buck then from your professional relationship, think her opinion.
Speaker 4: I think Heather went into it thinking she was going
Speaker 4: to really love that, and she didn't love it as
Speaker 4: much as she thought she did.
Speaker 1: I mean, so she leaves.
Speaker 4: Really you think we're playing a little body language, you know,
Speaker 4: here like trying to view it. But she rushed out
Speaker 4: of there in a way that left me feeling she
Speaker 4: was a little it was either not far enough or
Speaker 4: it was too much. I think we all I think
Speaker 4: it was not far enough.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's why she freaked out. Is I
Speaker 5: think she liked it too much, or it made her
Speaker 5: feel angry or scared or not necessarily sexy. It was
Speaker 5: more in that, as we've been talking about from the
Speaker 5: beginning of this season, the clear like layup for her
Speaker 5: to become some kind of serial killer or something. I
Speaker 5: think that it probably had a sexy moment. She's crying,
Speaker 5: she's get letting all those feelings out. It's very cathartic.
Speaker 5: And then at the end she must have felt like,
Speaker 5: oh shit, what if I just killed them, Like wouldn't
Speaker 5: that be great? And then she was like ah, because
Speaker 5: she also knows he's killed loads of people. Like she's
Speaker 5: not dumb. She knows who Buck is, so she could
Speaker 5: justify that herself. Aaron, how about big, big episode for
Speaker 5: Down and beeB.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Hold on a second, I gotta regarding Heather and Buck,
Speaker 2: what is the.
Speaker 1: Is it okay to jack off at awake?
Speaker 5: Because okay, finally someone asking the most important questions.
Speaker 2: Because Buck had a buck you know, I'm guessing slipped
Speaker 2: into the bathroom right after that and just was like,
Speaker 2: least take care of business because I can't.
Speaker 3: Be the Gracie Mansion.
Speaker 1: I can't be walking around awake like this.
Speaker 4: Do you think he slipped off or did he just
Speaker 4: horrible things have already happened in Vanessa's bedroom. Unfortunately that's true.
Speaker 3: You took off that she ran out. He was just
Speaker 3: like fuck it.
Speaker 2: I mean, this whole thing is so crazy, like Aaron,
Speaker 2: you know, as we were saying, it kind of changes.
Speaker 1: It changed the.
Speaker 2: Tone and feeling of the entire episdisode. Once that happened,
Speaker 2: I was like, ah, I can't believe this, and it
Speaker 2: makes the entire It makes everything that happens after feel
Speaker 2: a different way, Like how did you feel after this scene?
Speaker 4: God, I don't want to use this word, but it
Speaker 4: felt like a release because we've been building to this
Speaker 4: for so long, like we had all these scenes of
Speaker 4: her using the hand strength thing, and we've had her
Speaker 4: looking at the mask, and we knew they were building
Speaker 4: to this, and we had that really sweet scene that
Speaker 4: I love with the two of them at the banquet
Speaker 4: talking about all the players on the board and they're
Speaker 4: going through this and we see this relationship building between
Speaker 4: the two of them, and you know, Buck's charming. He
Speaker 4: knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1: And I mean Buck came in.
Speaker 2: When Buck walked in, yeah, he had that glint in
Speaker 2: his eye like shit's I don't know what's gonna happen,
Speaker 2: but sits something's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: And something's gonna happen right now.
Speaker 3: Let me.
Speaker 5: He also caught her in a situation she wasn't supposed
Speaker 5: to be in, so he didn't play it that way first,
Speaker 5: but he did have leverage as well.
Speaker 1: You know, she as deep as hell into the bedroom.
Speaker 2: It's not like she walked in and is like a
Speaker 2: foot in and is looking around, Oh this is where
Speaker 2: Wilson ever.
Speaker 1: Else is sleep.
Speaker 2: She was like up in the ship, like she was
Speaker 2: near the dresser, she was near the stuff, like, clearly
Speaker 2: something is happening. I will also ask you this because
Speaker 2: I this is not like, this is just my theory
Speaker 2: I talked about it before, so unconfirmed, but I believe
Speaker 2: that at least some of what is happening to Heather
Speaker 2: is like a some sort of possession through the through
Speaker 2: the Mews mask Like oh yeah, I love the idea
Speaker 2: that it's possession, like like the the kind of like
Speaker 2: demonic slash, the powered element of muse is somehow inherent
Speaker 2: in his costume.
Speaker 3: Almost like doctor Fate's mosque.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the and that somehow that is propelling her
Speaker 2: to these increasingly kind of like extreme behaviors. So do
Speaker 2: you think as she's choking Buck, is that is that
Speaker 2: muse or is that her?
Speaker 1: Or what's happening?
Speaker 4: I think it's I love this muse theory you have,
Speaker 4: partly because just the wordplay of like it in art,
Speaker 4: a muse is something that comes to you or inspires you.
Speaker 4: It's your own right, And so I love I love
Speaker 4: the theory that there's something else working through her vigilance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, questionnaire, how weird it is with the possession you know?
Speaker 3: One?
Speaker 4: So uh, you know, the MCU has like dipped its
Speaker 4: toe and teased us with some of these supernatural things,
Speaker 4: even as as recently as Ironhart where we get me
Speaker 4: fisto like blink and you miss it kind of thing.
Speaker 4: But I do love that, and I we've had the hand,
Speaker 4: We've had like weird resurrections to the hand. I think
Speaker 4: this is such a great path for her character and
Speaker 4: for the Muse character, who I think was really terrifying
Speaker 4: in season one and didn't get really enough time because
Speaker 4: they kind of cut that off by mid season. So
Speaker 4: to get some continuation of that right here through Heather,
Speaker 4: who's like also got a connection to Matt and also
Speaker 4: has a connection to Fisk now would be incredible. Like,
Speaker 4: let's run with this as long as we can.
Speaker 1: Okay, now, let's go to Dan and Bebe, Dan and Bebe.
Speaker 1: You know, I've been up and down with them.
Speaker 2: I don't know where it's you know, it's like Boebe,
Speaker 2: what are you doing? Then it's like Dan, what are
Speaker 2: you doing?
Speaker 1: Now they've come to like a really.
Speaker 2: Sweet place where yeah, for the first time, maybe Dan
Speaker 2: knows more than bb and is trying to protect Bbe
Speaker 2: from her really from herself because she's getting mixed up
Speaker 2: and stuff.
Speaker 3: That's just crazy.
Speaker 1: What did you think of the Dan and Bebe scenes here?
Speaker 4: Aaron I already like Bbe and I just think as
Speaker 4: a couple, as a couple who's potentially having a little
Speaker 4: bit of a rough patch right now. There's a little
Speaker 4: bit of lying, there's there's a lack of trust BB
Speaker 4: buying Dan Mom's MLM, ROYGBIV elixirs or whatever. Like ten
Speaker 4: points that's out. That's an incredible, so cute.
Speaker 5: I loved so much of what they do with these
Speaker 5: two in this episode where you really start to feel like,
Speaker 5: well again, it's kind of like you said about the
Speaker 5: release with the Buck and the you know, the lead
Speaker 5: up with Heather is like we we they have been
Speaker 5: playing around with this, like do they really care about
Speaker 5: each other?
Speaker 3: How much are they using each other up the ladder?
Speaker 5: And this is a really nice way to be like,
Speaker 5: oh no, at the core there is like a true
Speaker 5: friendship and care for that the two of them have.
Speaker 3: But it's only going to get them in trouble.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: Now, My other thing about that trouble, it's an SD card.
Speaker 4: Do we think Dan had a chance to like find
Speaker 4: an adapter? Look at what's on the SD card and like.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, but he he knows it's sus
Speaker 5: because it's the same pocket that when the kids jumped in.
Speaker 4: So if you're baby, you just say I don't know
Speaker 4: who that was.
Speaker 2: People give me also like I mean media, I'm a videographer.
Speaker 1: I'm just like I have SD cards everywhere.
Speaker 2: But the issue is she acted weird about it, Like
Speaker 2: she would have said, yeah, like what do you think,
Speaker 2: like I film an.
Speaker 1: Edit video, I have you know many of these I
Speaker 1: have everywhere? What are you talking about?
Speaker 4: And she didn't yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if she would have done that, then maybe Dan
Speaker 2: would have been like okay, But because she she she really.
Speaker 1: Did quit weird about it.
Speaker 4: So I'm a little worried about them. And you know,
Speaker 4: we do get that scene to get that scene of
Speaker 4: Dan being like, I don't know if I can protect
Speaker 4: you from who, And as she's asking that, Buck calls
Speaker 4: and it's just like yeah, yeah, you know. He he
Speaker 4: just finished off at a in the side closet room
Speaker 4: next to Vanessa's bedroom at the wake, and he's calling
Speaker 4: to check up on you right now, So he's got
Speaker 4: that post.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's the clearest threat yet that that.
Speaker 2: It's either BB or Dan, because Dan is either going
Speaker 2: to do it, which he does do it, and then
Speaker 2: you know, or he's going to put BB in a
Speaker 2: position her Bucks request where Buck can kill her and
Speaker 2: and he's either.
Speaker 1: Going to decide to do that or he's not.
Speaker 2: It's clear that that's where it's going because also, again,
Speaker 2: as I said last episode, I actually I think it's
Speaker 2: mainly about Dan because there's no way like Listen, Buck knows.
Speaker 3: He Listen knows. He just wants to know if Dan
Speaker 3: is loyal, right exactly.
Speaker 1: That's all they care about.
Speaker 2: Will Dan do as he's told, especially when we're asking
Speaker 2: him stuff that's like really hard.
Speaker 4: That's what they want to know because they know that
Speaker 4: Bbe is doing this and they already have dirt on Dan.
Speaker 4: They already made him do one body. So he's too
Speaker 4: far in now, Like it would be easier potentially for
Speaker 4: him to say no if he hadn't done something else
Speaker 4: to jeopardize himself. But he's ultimate.
Speaker 5: Leverage now because then otherwise you'd have to turn informant
Speaker 5: on Wilson Fisk.
Speaker 3: That's like your only other option out of this.
Speaker 1: I mean, good luck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people have tried it. Let's talk about we finally
Speaker 2: get Jessica finally.
Speaker 3: I ran, how did that feel? You've been waiting so eagerly.
Speaker 4: It was great. It was great, and then like to
Speaker 4: have them tease it just a little bit more with
Speaker 4: like just seeing her boots as she walks out, you
Speaker 4: know what it is, you know what's happening, and have
Speaker 4: her come back in and it's her daughter, you know.
Speaker 4: Like you said, we have no name dropping of Luke,
Speaker 4: but we have plenty of cues and clues and uh,
Speaker 4: there's there's this like, was was Jessica an original recruit
Speaker 4: potentially for Thunderbolts, Maybe Luke was, Maybe Luke is doing
Speaker 4: something else.
Speaker 3: For yeah, whatever that.
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be like a Dark Avengers like that.
Speaker 5: But Valentina is kind of the Norman Osborne, so it's
Speaker 5: it's more villainous. But they can I mean, Luke's not
Speaker 5: a villain, but he has someone who would sign up
Speaker 5: to go and kill people in another country if his
Speaker 5: wife and kids.
Speaker 3: He's what he is, he's a hitman for hire. He's here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's always needed money. I can see.
Speaker 3: He's always broke.
Speaker 1: He's a good guy, but he's always been fucking broke.
Speaker 1: That's one thing you can say about Luken coming out
Speaker 1: of the wallet. He's continuously broke.
Speaker 5: Someone's gonna pay for that big ass house him and
Speaker 5: Jessica are living.
Speaker 1: And it's definitely not him because he's off doing well,
Speaker 1: you know. Now, maybe he's earning a paper.
Speaker 5: Maybe that's why I'm saying, maybe he's on that Valentina money.
Speaker 4: But I am really intrigued by this like on again
Speaker 4: off the power set that she has. I want to know,
Speaker 4: is this like a is this their way to introduce
Speaker 4: her and then face her out after the season or
Speaker 4: is this a way to give her a storyline that
Speaker 4: can continue after this Because I have I have a theory,
Speaker 4: I clearly would prefer the latter. Okay, this is the
Speaker 4: beginning of a weaponization of depowering. The government is going
Speaker 4: to figure out what made this happen.
Speaker 2: I think they're going to make a process so that
Speaker 2: they can nerve heroes and they're going to use it
Speaker 2: on whoever the fuck it they need to use it on,
Speaker 2: like thor the Hulk, the Mutants especially, right, and that's
Speaker 2: where it's going.
Speaker 5: That would be so interesting too, because Jessica's power is
Speaker 5: like she's has like had them and not had them
Speaker 5: and they kind of on and off again, usually to
Speaker 5: do with PTSD mental health like a way.
Speaker 3: To explore that.
Speaker 5: So it would be extra fucked up if they somehow
Speaker 5: utilized that aspect, like essentially like a fear aspect or
Speaker 5: a PTSD aspect that they could in in people, incite
Speaker 5: in people in juice and heroes that would basically make
Speaker 5: them be depowered. I think that's so interesting, and yeah,
Speaker 5: do od it would make sense that Department of Damage Control.
Speaker 5: Also they said they're collecting powered people, and we know
Speaker 5: that some of those power people like LUKEA being used
Speaker 5: for these missions, but others could be tested on or
Speaker 5: imprisoned or Oh you're so right, Jason, that's a great thing.
Speaker 2: I also think it's very interesting the powered people that
Speaker 2: they've collected, like in Thunderbolts, Asterisk, the New Avengers, essentially
Speaker 2: right they want. They tried it with god level power sets,
Speaker 2: right with the Hulk and with Thor and with Wanda
Speaker 2: and with Vision.
Speaker 5: They're just two even like Tony Stark, he was like
Speaker 5: a god on earth because he was a billionaire and
Speaker 5: he was super control.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm smarter and smarter than everybody.
Speaker 2: So this time they've gone for broke ass fucking heroes
Speaker 2: with with they're strong like Jessica, but they're not like
Speaker 2: going to destroy a city. And none of them, and
Speaker 2: I say this with respect, none of them are genius
Speaker 2: level intellects. No, and none of them are mentally stable,
Speaker 2: right they and that's what they want is they want
Speaker 2: very they want powerful, you know, human beings who are controllable,
Speaker 2: who aren't.
Speaker 1: That smart and really fucking need money.
Speaker 3: And that's what there sounds to me like something that's
Speaker 3: happening in real life right now. I can't believe this shit.
Speaker 2: Does sound like that too, But yeah, so I think
Speaker 2: that's where they're going. I think they're going for a
Speaker 2: more pliable superhero force that the government control, can control,
Speaker 2: while they're also, as a parallel track, going to start
Speaker 2: working on weapons that can deepower heroes so that they
Speaker 2: don't have that threat out there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so they can control them essentially like a
Speaker 5: dog caller. Is why I feel like, Okay, I also
Speaker 5: like it was really amazing to see Danny Cage.
Speaker 3: We love her, she's so cute.
Speaker 5: I also kind of love that this is all taken
Speaker 5: from the book Pulse, that comic book issue, and now
Speaker 5: they've kind of introduced this idea that Jessica's powers are
Speaker 5: like pulsing on him off and stuff. I was wondering
Speaker 5: if they were trying to do that to also try
Speaker 5: and find a new way to give her like a
Speaker 5: more hero name if she's going to be in Doomsday.
Speaker 5: But now we've seen the kids, that we've seen the
Speaker 5: daughter Aaron. How likely do you think a Luke Cage
Speaker 5: appearance is like a cameo? Or do you think because
Speaker 5: they say he's off on a mission that's for season three?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean we do keep mentioning Luke, and again he
Speaker 4: has not been He's not been mentioned even by name.
Speaker 4: There is a part of my head that's like, maybe
Speaker 4: actually Jessica knows Florence Pugh, Like maybe that's her connection
Speaker 4: to this government thing. What's we assume it's Luke? Obviously?
Speaker 4: Do we think Luke is in this?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: You think so?
Speaker 4: I think like it's already episode six of an eight
Speaker 4: episode thing. We just got Jessica. How are we going
Speaker 4: to get someone else.
Speaker 2: He's not going to do anything. It's going to be
Speaker 2: a walkthrough or something like that, because they're not going
Speaker 2: to be like Mike get in shape, right, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like it gonna it's gonna be a walkthrough.
Speaker 5: I think, well, he, I would say, as a huge
Speaker 5: evil fan, I would love to see him.
Speaker 1: I would Yeah, I'm just wee him.
Speaker 5: I kind of love a lot of the Jessica Jones
Speaker 5: Luke Cage stuff that we've gotten in the past.
Speaker 3: Is very like they live in a bar, they're broke.
Speaker 3: It's like street level blah blah blah. It's nice to see.
Speaker 5: I would like to see the two of them getting
Speaker 5: to live this little bit of happiness having Danny. Obviously,
Speaker 5: Jessica's very confident as a mother. We see I just
Speaker 5: kick that, you know, grenade out like it's not even
Speaker 5: a thing. So I love to see them in this
Speaker 5: kind of new setting. So I would like to see it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, this episode, a lot happened. So I also
Speaker 5: feel like we got a lot to do in the
Speaker 5: final two episodes.
Speaker 3: Yea, I do.
Speaker 4: I texted you about this, Rosie, I think. But you know,
Speaker 4: Jessica leaves Upstate or wherever her home is. Who do
Speaker 4: we think the best babysitters in the MCU are Who
Speaker 4: would you leave your kids with?
Speaker 1: It's a squirrel girl, it is, Yeah.
Speaker 3: In the real comics, it's definitely Squirrel Girl. That's actually
Speaker 3: like who is her babysit?
Speaker 5: I I would say, this is my long range theory,
Speaker 5: but I would I feel like cam Laine such a
Speaker 5: good babysitter.
Speaker 1: And she's.
Speaker 3: A yeah, but you think.
Speaker 5: I'm like, they could just send a car, like Valentina,
Speaker 5: just send her car. But I would love imagine if
Speaker 5: there was like some deep cut like teen you know hero.
Speaker 3: Who's just like living next to them. It's just like
Speaker 3: husk or something.
Speaker 4: Or like she brings her daughter in and leaves her
Speaker 4: with Kate or something, and Kate just like feeds her
Speaker 4: pizza and they play with the dog or something. Anyways, Yes,
Speaker 4: I'm sure we could, you know, expand on that more
Speaker 4: as as we get you know, further heroes and doomsday
Speaker 4: and everything. But that was something in just in my head.
Speaker 5: It definitely feels to me like Jessica's gonna be in
Speaker 5: the show for the rest of the episodes. I hope,
Speaker 5: right Like it doesn't feel like a camera Yeah, I
Speaker 5: feel like them meeting up and kind of having that
Speaker 5: fight and the talk about her powers.
Speaker 3: I feel like we're going to see that come into.
Speaker 4: And the powers turning on and off will come.
Speaker 3: Back for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean I will say, like I think that she's
Speaker 2: in danger. I think that they are going to study her.
Speaker 4: What it is.
Speaker 2: It's like taking her powers away because I think they
Speaker 2: want to know more about this.
Speaker 5: This actually makes so much sense, Jason, because also she's controllable,
Speaker 5: because we know that the Purple Man was able to
Speaker 5: hypnotize her and force her and that was his power set.
Speaker 3: Right, But that's a jewel thing that they want to learn.
Speaker 5: Is that going to be like what is it about
Speaker 5: her brain that allowed somebody to implant something to make
Speaker 5: her do what they wanted?
Speaker 3: As well as the fact that they could learn how
Speaker 3: to depower people.
Speaker 4: What if we get Luke but we lose Jess Like, no, no,
Speaker 4: they would.
Speaker 3: Never do it. They would never do it. I don't
Speaker 3: believe it.
Speaker 4: All right, should we jump into Deadpool? See where we are?
Speaker 1: Let's see the Deadpool. Let's do the dead Pool.
Speaker 4: Last week, Jason, you had Kingpin, BB or Dan McCaffrey,
Speaker 4: Cherry Rosie. You had Detective Kim Great Detective Kim shout out.
Speaker 4: You had depth all right, where is she a?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Dex and BB and I had BB Bullseye and McCaffrey Jason,
Speaker 4: what are you thinking this week? I'm going to leave
Speaker 4: a Kingpin question mark, because I do think we, for
Speaker 4: the first time have broached the question in the in
Speaker 4: the show with Matt saying what if we both just left?
Speaker 4: So I think that there's a world in which next
Speaker 4: season born again, both Matt and the Kingpin, for whatever reasons,
Speaker 4: are not around. So I do wonder if the Kingpin
Speaker 4: is going to die.
Speaker 2: And as I said, and then as I said, you know,
Speaker 2: like Vincent is getting up there, I think that.
Speaker 1: I think that Dan is going to die now.
Speaker 2: And then I think that I think we need Powell, like,
Speaker 2: if not dead, then so injured that he can there
Speaker 2: that he can't.
Speaker 1: Be on the force, he can't even work a desk job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we've built him up as such an
Speaker 2: evil fucking guy that he's gotta die.
Speaker 3: Or be just your right.
Speaker 5: It's because otherwise what's gonna happen unless they're gonna plan
Speaker 5: to make him into a continuing ongoing villain, see them
Speaker 5: doing who I think this is actually kind of hard
Speaker 5: for me because I feel like, going in everything's possible,
Speaker 5: I'm taking off decks. I think if Karen was gonna
Speaker 5: kill him, that would have happened today. I think we've
Speaker 5: said that's not happening. I think I'm putting the Governor
Speaker 5: back on there. I think mister Charles showing up actually
Speaker 5: makes her way way more vulnerable. I'm actually also, fuck it,
Speaker 5: let's put mister Charles on there. I think, dude, he's
Speaker 5: not strong enough. He's not strong enough. He almost got
Speaker 5: killed over the he almost got shot by and and
Speaker 5: then like he just doesn't make good plays, like he's
Speaker 5: doing a play to the Governor, someone who's already been
Speaker 5: at a disadvantage with Fisk and continues to be so.
Speaker 5: I just feel like he doesn't necessarily have the juice.
Speaker 5: Fist could definitely just you know, squash his head like
Speaker 5: a grape.
Speaker 3: I love Matthew Linda.
Speaker 5: I think this is an interesting character who could be
Speaker 5: a great like Evil Colson who shows up.
Speaker 3: In the movies and stuff. But I think him dying
Speaker 3: is quite likely. Okay, so I've got one more. I
Speaker 3: think I'm gonna go for Dan.
Speaker 5: I feel like he was too he's too loving to
Speaker 5: b Be this episode, it'll probably change back again, but
Speaker 5: you know, I think it's Dan or Beebe, And right
Speaker 5: now I feel like Dan he's the kind of guy
Speaker 5: who's gonna make the sacrifice.
Speaker 3: I see it in him. He's a good lover boy.
Speaker 3: I believe in him.
Speaker 1: I love I loved I've really Dan's.
Speaker 3: Grown on me.
Speaker 4: I love him.
Speaker 5: What the fuck?
Speaker 3: It's so good?
Speaker 1: Aaron?
Speaker 3: What about you?
Speaker 4: The Dan at home scenes with his mom, Like we're
Speaker 4: sort of similar to Penguin in a little ways where
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, here's this character. Like very different characters,
Speaker 4: but like we get a little humanizing through the mother.
Speaker 4: I think, you know, I had Karen, but I'm gonna
Speaker 4: take Karen off because Jason, I think you're right. I
Speaker 4: think that they've built up too much with her. So
Speaker 4: instead I'm gonna say Dex. And I actually think Dex.
Speaker 4: What if Dex is one good deed actually winds up
Speaker 4: being dying to save Karen. So what if Dex like
Speaker 4: takes a bullet for Karen at the last minute or
Speaker 4: something so good will be That's gonna be my number one.
Speaker 4: I think Governor McCaffrey is the free Square, Like Charles
Speaker 4: showing up in her home. You know, there's just not
Speaker 4: a good look. This is You're in trouble and it's.
Speaker 5: Going badly for you ye move house, by the way,
Speaker 5: also please, like too many people know where you live.
Speaker 4: And I'm trying to think of something because the next
Speaker 4: thing I think is just whoever talks to Fisk next
Speaker 4: he's in this fight with Matt like nobody if you know.
Speaker 4: I also wish.
Speaker 3: Whichever way just accidental.
Speaker 4: Park his car whatever. I I wish we could do
Speaker 4: a mid episode Deadpool because Saunders when they showed him,
Speaker 4: like yeah, your key card, and he's like, that's an
Speaker 4: easy addition. They're dead. But I you know, in all seriousness,
Speaker 4: I think Dex is my number one, McCaffrey's my number two,
Speaker 4: and I will put Dan on there, but I think
Speaker 4: it will it will be because Dan potentially gives BB away,
Speaker 4: Like he he he comes to the pressure from Buck
Speaker 4: and I could see him having the most remorse possible
Speaker 4: and like doing something that causes him. Yeah, he's he's
Speaker 4: going to give her position away. He's gonna, you know,
Speaker 4: tell Buck to come pick her up or something, and
Speaker 4: like he can't help it.
Speaker 5: He's too shifty, Like he's not good at the game.
Speaker 5: That's the other thing he's not. He was never made
Speaker 5: for the two sidedness. He can't play every respectrum. He's
Speaker 5: quite up front about his wants and his needs and
Speaker 5: why he likes to be there, so he's not really
Speaker 5: That's why I think he's freaking out so much about killing,
Speaker 5: about helping chop up the body of Christ.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, we will watch eagerly to see where this goes.
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