1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast. 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: All right, here we go. 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Fifteen twenty twenty five, thirty thirty five, Hony Cody five 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: fifty and the kick as block the college football Laura stun. 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: Oh my godness, he stumbled. 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: And the lateral turn the counter of the job. Do 7 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: you the lad came off the fail the nights. It's 8 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: not the size of the dog in the fight. It's 9 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: the size of the fight. 10 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: In the dog. 11 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast on my Calbarys. 12 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm joined today by Duck and Stuckey. It's time for 13 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: some serious patriotism because now we tackle the American Conference, 14 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: a conference that spans our great nation from the banks 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: of the Hudson River to the white sand beaches off 16 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: of Fau's campus to the Riverwalk in San Antonio. This league, 17 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 1: just like last year, has potential to send a team 18 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: to the twelve team college football playoffs. 19 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 2: Very fascinating conference. 20 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 3: I've just spent the last fifteen hours going through every 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 3: single roster again. And now you have three option teams. 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 3: You have a bunch of air raid teams. The Rice 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: is moving to the option. You have Tulsa's gone air rads, 24 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: you have like four ish air raid teams, and then 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: you have your handful of you know, balanced want to 26 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: run it. 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 2: Your two lane Temple Charlotte teams. 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: I like all the head coach hires, like you have 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: Rice Fau Charlotte Temple Tulsa. They were disasters last year 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: with like lame duck coaches, a lot of quit A 31 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 3: lot of those teams are going to be more competitive. 32 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: So let's get into the teams in terms of balance. 33 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: We don't need to discuss necessarily the top dogs, just 34 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: at the top and then wait for the bottom to 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: get into the dregs and weird way, if we go alphabetically, 36 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna zigzag between really good teams and teams that 37 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: are rebuilding. So let's just start, you know, with the 38 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: letter A with army song I wrote. 39 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 4: Many Army have many army yyyy me hoy homy on 40 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 4: mey imy imy homy. 41 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: Army twelve and two. 42 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: Last year, they go undefeated in their maiden voyage there 43 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: in the aac An Independence Bowl win over LA Tech, 44 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: their odds to repeat as conference champions ten to one. 45 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: Their winter sitting at seven and a half nine starters 46 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: returning four on offense, five on defense, eighty sixth overall 47 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: in returning production. Now, Doc, I'm gonna have you kind 48 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: of get into the nitty gritty of this team. 49 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: But let me set the table a bit here. 50 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: No more Captain America on offense, Bryce and Daily you know, 51 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: and everything he did offensively for them, He ran it 52 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: an impossible three hundred and nineteen times last year, broke 53 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: forty eight tackles, and somehow only. 54 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: Put six footballs on the carpet. 55 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: Despite all that usage, all of the pitching, they only 56 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: lost five fumbles the entire season, which spoke to his trustworthiness. 57 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: He's gone, so too are pieces from that Joe Moore 58 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: Award winning offensive line, and Kanye Udo goes off to 59 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: Arizona State, which is a huge loss in the portal. Defensively, 60 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: they meant they returned five starters, six of their top 61 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: ten tacklers, but Elo Modozi is off to Georgia, so 62 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 1: another potential star that they're gonna have to deal. 63 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 2: Without this fall. 64 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: Douck, do we think they can reload or do you 65 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: think this is a massive step back for the Cadets 66 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: up at West Point. 67 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 4: I think to expect a reload and a repeat performance 68 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 4: of last season would be unfair. There were just too 69 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 4: many stars that had to align last season for Army 70 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 4: to go on a magical run. 71 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: No, sir. 72 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 4: They had an electric playmaker at quarterback, just very little 73 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 4: mistakes by Bryce Daily at the quarterback position, and the 74 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 4: execution was just superb. The A and B back play 75 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 4: exceeded all expectations. You mentioned Kanye Udo, but the slotbacks 76 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 4: who were not explosive in twenty twenty three, had so 77 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 4: much explosiveness last year in twenty twenty four that they 78 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 4: really needed. I mean, the offensive line connected and won 79 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 4: the Joe Moore Award, and the schedule was really conducive 80 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 4: to racking up the win. We've got a few things 81 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 4: this year that are going to be changing with that. 82 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 4: So I think the book is still out yet. On 83 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 4: d Wayne Coleman, I think he's a little unproven. He 84 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 4: might be a little stronger passer than Daily, but yet 85 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 4: to see with really a great amount of workload if 86 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 4: he's the guy that's going to be able to handle 87 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 4: the load. Udo is just a massive loss at the 88 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 4: B back. He just did so many things for that offense, 89 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 4: or at least had the threat of doing those things. 90 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 4: So be interesting to see how they replace that. I 91 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 4: think it's going to be Jake Redina, who is going 92 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 4: to come in and pick up the slack at the 93 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 4: b back position. And then they're pretty short up with 94 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 4: the slot backs, so probably okay. In the running back room, 95 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: I would think the receiver and tight endroom is fairly inexperienced, 96 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 4: although that'll be mitigated just by the style of play. 97 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 4: They don't throw it a ton, and they'll certainly find 98 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: someone that can likely emerge and pick up some slack there. 99 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 4: But the old line, you lose the left tackle, the 100 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 4: right tackle, the left guard, with no portal to pluck 101 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 4: guys from, and you've also got the guy drawn it up, 102 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 4: Matt Drinkle, who's no longer on staff. So I just 103 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 4: think that you're do for a little bit of negative regression. 104 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 4: I don't think it's a reload. I don't think it's 105 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 4: a massive step back offensively. I just think it's kind 106 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 4: of a little bit of attrition back to the norm 107 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 4: of what kind of what the talent level would be here. 108 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 4: Five starters return on defense, six of the top twelve 109 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 4: tacklers return. There are some holes. The front seven is undersized, 110 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 4: as is always the case with a military academy, they 111 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 4: usually rotate a ton of guys in, so they're going 112 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 4: to need some young guys to step up, especially as 113 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 4: we get into the crux of the season. You mentioned 114 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 4: the linebacker going to Georgia. That's a big loss and 115 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 4: that again there's no portal to really portal and backfill that. 116 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 4: So with Elo Mendozi going out, it's a loss in 117 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 4: that linebacker room for sure. I think the secondary is okay. 118 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 4: They've got five back that played meaningful snaps last season, 119 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 4: but there are three contributors that were gone, So yeah, 120 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 4: there's there's some holes that you're just going to have 121 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: to try to limit the damage lost by graduating seniors 122 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 4: and good producers. Now the schedule I think is a 123 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: little bit more difficult. 124 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: You've got to go to. 125 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: Kansas State early in the season. You play North Texas, 126 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 4: who I think is an emerging program that'll have a 127 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 4: significantly better defense. We'll get to them later. At East 128 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 4: Carolina and at UAB will just not be cakewalks for Army, 129 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 4: and routinely when they have to go to the South, 130 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 4: they have been known in the past to throw up 131 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 4: a stink or two. So I think that those travel 132 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 4: spots could be tricky. At TWU Lane, at air Force 133 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 4: and at UTSA provide some tough road environments for Army. 134 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 4: And then you've got the neutral game at the end 135 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 4: of the season against against Navy, which is always a 136 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 4: really hard fought, competitive battle. There's like eight games on 137 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 4: the schedule they could lose, and you have your leader 138 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 4: that's lost. You have the guys that are the catalysts 139 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 4: offensively that you could bank on third and two, fourth 140 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 4: and two. You absolutely knew exactly what you were going 141 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 4: to get and they executed at a high level. I 142 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 4: just don't think we see a ton of that this 143 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 4: year from Army, or at least not as highly efficient 144 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 4: as what we saw in twenty twenty four. Of the 145 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 4: schedules a little bit more difficult. They've got more tricky 146 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 4: road spots. I go under seven and a half here. 147 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 4: I think this is still a good football team, but 148 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 4: not nearly the team that we saw, and the magical 149 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: run that we had from Army last season stuck. What 150 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 4: do you think? 151 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? I went under here. 152 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: One of my favorite win totals, and last year, if 153 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: you look at Army, they had ten regular season wins. 154 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: Lehigh Rice, they fire their coach, Temple, fire their coach. 155 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: Tulsa they quit, fired their coach ECU. It was before 156 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: that they made a coach and change. They beat Air 157 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: Force it was its worst year in decades. UAB, we 158 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: know was horrible last year. And then there are other 159 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: wins were North Texas and UTSA. They could have lost 160 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: either of those games easily. So everything broke right. Daily's 161 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: gone being huge. The tackles, you know, you have won 162 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: with three thousand snaps the other ones on the Ravens roster. Now, 163 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: tackles are so important to an option offense. They call 164 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: out everything on the defense for communication that I mean. 165 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: And then the offensive line coach, as you mentioned, their 166 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: tackle go from over forty five hundred career snaps to 167 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: less than one hundred. So that is a major question 168 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: for me. And yeah, I think the schedule is going 169 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: to end up being much tougher this year, So yeah, 170 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: I went under. I project them at like six point eight. 171 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: The way that I project that I look at the 172 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 3: American overall is you have five teams at the in 173 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: the top tier that are pretty close like Tulane, Memphis, UTSA, Navy, USF. 174 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: And then I think there's a second tier. We'll see 175 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: if any one of those teams can rise with like Army, 176 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 3: North Texas ECU, and then you have all the six 177 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: kind of dregs with a lot of change, and most 178 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 3: of them have new coaches. I think Army is in 179 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 3: that second tier. Yeah, there's a lot of games that 180 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 3: they could drop here. The loss of daily is huge, 181 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: the loss of the tackles is huge. Blust some other 182 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 3: key guys. So I think there's value in the under. 183 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: I went under seven and a half. 184 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: We looked down at Charlotte five and seven last year 185 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: overall four and four in the American that seventy five 186 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: to one to win the conference. Win total sitting at 187 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: three and a half. Two starters returning one on each 188 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: side of the ball, one hundred and thirty first in 189 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: returning production. We keep getting energetic, quirky coaches, Club Lit Biff, my. 190 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: Name's Biff Pog. 191 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,599 Speaker 4: I expect those to be a national power. 192 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: But it's not working in the Queen City. 193 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: Now they snag an elite G five coach from Ohio 194 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: and Tim Albin. 195 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: He won thirty games in his last three years in Athens. 196 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: Long term, I love this higher. 197 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: It's the best case scenario by country mile for a 198 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: program in Charlotte to be able to get someone of 199 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: this quality who's already established. They didn't have to go 200 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: to the FCS ranks. They didn't have to take a 201 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: hot coordinator. They took somebody who's already proven that they 202 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: can win with realistic resources, even though Charlotte is kind 203 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: of trending up in that regard. But are they going 204 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: to have answers to some of the major questions, starting 205 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: with the fact who's going to be their QB one? 206 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: Is it Grayson loftis from Duke Connor Harrell from North Carolina? 207 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: Will their recruiting wins in the wide receiver room pay 208 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: dividends if that quarterback position isn't figured out quickly? And defensively, 209 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: Alvin had stoppers at Ohio that were nasty at defense 210 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: in general really carry them for much of the season, 211 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: and now essentially with all these new parts, ten new 212 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: faces on this defense for at least compared to last 213 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: year starting defense, a lot of FCS allowed JUCO guys 214 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: need to emerge. Can we trust Albin and his staff 215 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: to get these key questions sorted out by let's say 216 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: the end of September. I'll go to you first, Stucky 217 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: on this one. What are your thoughts on the reload 218 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: here at Charlotte. 219 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. I like the album higher as well. 220 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna miss Biff, but I'm not sure. 221 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: It's gonna pay dividends in year one. But they're implied 222 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 3: win till you can find is always shop around, especially 223 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 3: for like futures. I think you can find like Charlotte 224 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 3: is like two hundred to one or like seventy five 225 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 3: to one. If you for some reason why I got 226 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: Charlotte to win the league, why would you leave the 227 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: potential free money on the table to shop around for 228 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: futures that you can see that across the board. 229 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 4: In the a three times a better price. 230 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, the difference is between books, so just make sure 231 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 3: you shop brown as always. 232 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: I mean Albun. 233 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: Look his first year at Ohio he had three wins 234 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 3: and then he won ten plus three straight. So maybe 235 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 3: we see it in year two, three, four. I don't 236 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 3: really see it with this roster. They bring in a 237 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 3: bunch of linebackers from Ohio. Maybe that's the strength, but 238 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: their defensive line they lose everybody. But they were bad 239 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: last year, so I don't know how big of I 240 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: mean Butler going to USF maybe that's like the only 241 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: meaningful loss, but it and he didn't play a ton 242 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: of snaps. They had zero career FBS starts on their 243 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 3: defensive line, so we'll see how that comes together, you know, 244 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 3: in their defensive backfield. I like some of the additions 245 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: they made, but again unproven wide received. I mean everything 246 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: is unproven on this team. The offensive line in particular 247 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: is where everything could go wrong for me. Win total 248 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 3: out there is either two and a half heavily juice 249 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 3: to the over or three and a half heavily juice 250 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: to the under. I project them at like three point two, 251 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: so I mean I show a little bit of value 252 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 3: on the over, not enough to get involved. I mean 253 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 3: the schedule is brutal too. I mean they're at Georgia, 254 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: app State and u N and C in non khon. 255 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: You assume they get a win over Monmouth is their 256 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: other one. But the Charlotte's two games against Temple and 257 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 3: Rice at home, So what do you think of Rice? 258 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 3: What do you think of Temple? Those two new staffs, 259 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: those two new teams, that's probably going to go a 260 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: long way in determining their win total. It's I thought 261 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: about over two and a half earlier, but I couldn't 262 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 3: quite get there too concerned about playing the trenches on 263 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 3: both sides, So it's a pass for me. 264 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: On Charlotte Doug, how are you seeing this and how 265 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: enthusiastic can you throw it down? A bet that gets 266 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: tied up for four or five months when you don't 267 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: even know the starting quarterback, and certainly with so many 268 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: new faces on defense, you got to feel philosophically for 269 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: what he wants to do, having watched a lot of 270 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: Ohio football in recent years, but you can't have a 271 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: lot of confidence that it's all going to work right away. 272 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: And you know, Stucky just mentioning the non con it'd 273 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: be great to get a win over app State maybe 274 00:12:58,520 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: at the end of the year if they were playing 275 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: and they had more connuity and more experience and had 276 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: time to gel, but having to play them in that 277 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: opening month, even a down app State team, it's going 278 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: to be it's going to take a yeoman's effort to 279 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: get an upset like that. 280 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, overall, I think. 281 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 4: The higher two is a really fantastic higher And if 282 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 4: we see patients from the administration. 283 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: I definitely think it'll work. 284 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 4: But it's a full program rebuild. I think he'll make 285 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 4: good on it. But offensive line looks to be in 286 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 4: better shape than what they were when Biff left, and 287 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 4: they're going to have to be because they couldn't run 288 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 4: the ball with very much effectiveness. They gave up way 289 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 4: too much havoc thirty four sacs, seventy eight tackles for loss. 290 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: They tried to. 291 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 4: Portal in as best they could with some of the 292 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 4: limited pieces that they had, so they tried to piece 293 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 4: meal a roster together. 294 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: EJ. 295 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 4: Mason and Tyer Brooks come in from the portal at 296 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 4: the FCS level at receiver. 297 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: That should be okay. 298 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: The reports that I read show that the QB battle 299 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 4: is actually three ways, but Tim Albin just doesn't speak 300 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 4: about it to anybody, so he just will not really 301 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 4: tip his hand as to who's going to start, So 302 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 4: I would guess it would be loftist, but I mean, 303 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 4: there's no way to know what he's thinking. Special teams 304 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 4: is a complete mass, so I'm sure that'll be short 305 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 4: up in time with Tim Albyn. The non conference is tough. 306 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 4: Look at how they end. I mean North Texas ecu 307 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 4: Utsah Georgia two lane. They're not winning any of those. 308 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 4: I mean, they could get caught with their pants down 309 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 4: against Monmouth. So this is definitely a rebuilding season. I 310 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 4: think the higher long term will work, but I just 311 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 4: don't have a tremendous amount to get excited about here 312 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: with Charlotte, and there's too much unknown for me to 313 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 4: want to make a play either way. You know, a win. 314 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: Wins are just so hard to come by and they're precious. 315 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: But I'm going to tell you something, and you can 316 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: write this. 317 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 4: Down in big bold letters. When you're at East Carolina. 318 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: You go for it every time, or you don't coach 319 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: it East Carolina, you don't come to East Carolina, you 320 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: don't play it East Carolina with a weak heart. 321 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: And you write that down. 322 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: Warnings anyone with a weak heart, it's time to preview 323 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: East Carolina. The Pirates win eight and five last season, 324 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: five and three conference play. They win the Military Bowl 325 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: over NC State twenty six to twenty one, sixteen to 326 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: one to win the American Conference. This year, the win 327 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: total sitting at six and a half, six starters returning 328 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: four in offense, two on defense, one hundred and seventh overall, 329 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: though in returning production. Mike Houston got axed to after 330 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: a three and four start last season, and that part 331 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: made sense. He was in a five and fourteen nose 332 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: dive across multiple seasons. What didn't make sense is what 333 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: happened next Blake Carroll took over was zero head coaching experience, 334 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: and they won five of six. As I mentioned, they 335 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: beat NC State in that bowl game, and I can't 336 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: overstate what that meant to the fan base to stick 337 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: it to an in state school like NC State and 338 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: have that opportunity, and now they turn around they're going 339 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: to play them again this year. In the opener, John 340 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: David Baker stays at oc Harold hired Josh Aldridge from 341 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: Auburn to handle the defense. With the emergence of Caden Hauser, who, 342 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: by the way, is healthy after sitting out the spring, 343 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: a talented receiving corps with experience around him. How high 344 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: do you think this team can fly? Will they be 345 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: flying the Jolly Roger for most of the games this 346 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: season and get back into that eight or nine win 347 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: window in your opinion? 348 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 4: Duck Well, You're right about one thing. That bowlwin was huge. 349 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 4: Those two fan bases. It's reach rivalry. They don't play 350 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 4: often and they do not like each other, so that 351 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 4: was massive for ECU and a unique caveat They played 352 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 4: each other in Week one, so very interesting game here 353 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 4: in North Carolina. I really wanted to love this ECU team, 354 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 4: like I really really wanted to buy into what they 355 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 4: were doing here. But then I kind of started diving 356 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 4: in and I'm thinking, did this team turn the corner 357 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 4: after Blake Harrold took over or was it just that 358 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 4: they played Temple Fau Tulsa in North Texas. I'm just 359 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 4: not sold that it was a true watershed moment with 360 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 4: the program, and I think they just played some crappy 361 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 4: teams that they ended up capitalizing on to start to 362 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 4: build a little momentum to make a Bowl. There are 363 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 4: so many question marks this season. I think there's some upside, 364 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 4: but there's just a lot of question marks. The defense 365 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 4: was so porous last year at times, I mean three 366 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 4: hundred and eleven yards on the ground surrendered against Charlotte, 367 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 4: four hundred and forty yards allowed in league play, five 368 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: and a half yards per carry the last three weeks 369 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 4: of the season. Offensive turnovers definitely compounded the issues, But 370 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 4: twice last year they blew sixteen nothing leads and ended 371 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 4: up losing to app State and Liberty. Liberty game was 372 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 4: played after a lightning delay in the middle of the night, 373 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 4: but they still had three score leads or two score 374 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 4: leads blew those games. Last year they had big, physical 375 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 4: secondary players that really stuck their nose in there to 376 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 4: stop the run, and they were really good in pass 377 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 4: coverage early in the season. That entire platoon in the 378 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 4: secondary is gone, so it really could just take some 379 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 4: time for this defense, in my opinion, to amount to 380 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,239 Speaker 4: much of anything offensively. I like Cayden Hauser's back. I 381 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 4: like actually what he did last season. As long as 382 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 4: he can cut down the turnovers, he's going to have 383 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 4: to take a step as a passer in his match 384 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 4: a maturation. They do lose some key receivers. They lose 385 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 4: Najah Harris, their running back. It was a major player 386 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 4: last year for them. They do have a couple running 387 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 4: backs back, and Parker Jenkins comes in, so I think 388 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 4: that they'll be okay in the running back room. But 389 00:17:58,720 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 4: they want to throw the ball. They want to go 390 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 4: lightning fast, air raid tempo. They need to shore up 391 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 4: a couple of the receiver positions just so they can 392 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 4: have some guys. Now, they did get some P four 393 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 4: talent infused from Oklahoma, South Carolina, Penn State, but some 394 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 4: of those receivers are unproven and don't have a lot 395 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 4: of snaps under their belts. So well, just the book 396 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 4: is not out yet on that receiving core, but they 397 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: were highly rated in high school. The offensive line just 398 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 4: needs a little work. I'm really concerned that the interior 399 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 4: of the of the O line is going to take 400 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 4: some time because they bring in some transfers from the 401 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 4: portal who haven't played in this system, and last year 402 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 4: the execution was just poor. They were bad on third down, 403 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 4: they were bad in the red zone. They far too 404 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 4: often had empty red zone possessions or settled for red 405 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 4: zone field goals. So there's just some things that they 406 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 4: need to really clean up in order to, I think, 407 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 4: take that next step as a program. I was initially 408 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 4: thinking like this could be a conference long shot at 409 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 4: twenty two to one or whatever that opened up at 410 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 4: earlier in the I really wanted to go over the 411 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 4: win total at six and a half. But then when 412 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 4: I'm looking at the schedule, they got to go to 413 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 4: NC State, BYU comes into town, they go to Coastal 414 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 4: And I just mentioned that because last year with those 415 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 4: regional games against Appstate and Liberty, they just didn't go 416 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 4: very well. They've got Army, two Lane, Memphis and UTSA 417 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 4: in the conference slate, Armies on short rest. I mean, 418 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 4: this bunch could emerge and it could be a really 419 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 4: feisty unit this year for ECU. I think that they'll 420 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 4: play pretty scrappy football, like we've kind of come to 421 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 4: know in love with them. But I just think that 422 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 4: it's just such an uptick in the opponents that they're facing. 423 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 4: I think to really have a chance, you're going to 424 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 4: have to defeat Army, You're gonna have to defeat two 425 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 4: Lane on the road. You're going to have to win 426 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 4: some road games against some of these upper echelon teams. 427 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 4: Last year they had opportunities and they didn't capitalize on 428 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 4: them where they blew them. So I just need another 429 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 4: year for me to really take a firm a positive 430 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 4: position on ECU. 431 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 1: Do you agree Stuck that it's a mirage what happened 432 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: the second half the last year because of the schedule 433 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 1: and with this step up in competition, non con and 434 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: who they're facing in the American that they're going to 435 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: get exposed. 436 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's kind of what I took from 437 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 3: a lot of it was who they played. I mean 438 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 3: they beat Temple FA Tulsa, North Texas. Remember they got 439 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 3: blown out by Navy, and that was Woodson starting in 440 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: that game, a quarterback for Navy. The secondary is going 441 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 3: to be way down, I mean way down. You lost 442 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 3: Revel was hurt last year. He went to the Cowboys, 443 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 3: but Rogers was really good at safety. You lost a 444 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 3: bunch of others, and I don't think that they I 445 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 3: mean you're relying on wilk coming back and playing safety again, 446 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 3: a kid who was here a couple of years ago. 447 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 3: I don't really like their room at all. Linebackers super inexperienced. 448 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: The defensive line, they lost some guys up front. They 449 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: do have a ton of size. I mean every one 450 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 3: they added is like three hundred three fifteen three twenty three, 451 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 3: twenty five. So they have a ton of size and 452 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: bodies in the defensive line. I think they'll be okay there, 453 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 3: but the back seven I think is going to take 454 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: a major step back. 455 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: Offensively. I like their wide receiver room. 456 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 3: I mean I know they lost Sowell to Iowa State 457 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: and Right is now on the Browns, but both of 458 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 3: the Smiths are good. Petaway can replace Right in the 459 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: slot Johnson and Mangrim I think of potential too, so 460 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 3: I like their wide receiver room running back though miss Harris, 461 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 3: but they still have some guys there. There are some 462 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 3: things that did materially change, Like he went from Garcia, 463 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 3: who was a turnover machine like seven and a half 464 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 3: percent turnover worthy play rate, to Hawser, who was much better. 465 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 3: I mean, Howser was what nineteen touchdowns, eight interceptions. Garcia 466 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 3: was eight to eight touchdowns twelve interceptions. But Howser's still 467 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: way too hot. I mean, ty he had one of 468 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 3: the twenty highest turnover worthy play rates in the Country's 469 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: still way too high in that department. He was top 470 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: twenty in a dot two and then he actually had 471 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 3: the lowest time to throw. 472 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: They get rid of the ball quick. 473 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 3: This is ara, This is Brile's skiff and type offense, 474 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: wide splits, you name it. Baker also came down from 475 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 3: the booth to the sideline. I think that had a 476 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 3: positive impact as well, but I think mostly it was 477 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 3: the schedule. Duck mentioned in the offensive line. I'm really 478 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 3: worried about the offensive line. Otherwise, I think this offense 479 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: could be really good if the offensive line was going 480 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 3: to They lost their three vests. They were seven thousand 481 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 3: snaps with their center, their right guard, and their left tackle, 482 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 3: and I'm not sure. I mean they needed like a 483 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 3: Newberdy transfer to hit at tackle. Long from Maryland's probably 484 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: going to start at guard. Their center. The projected center 485 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 3: Jones got hurt and the spring he's out for the year. 486 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: It was another loss they were expecting him to start. 487 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 3: So the offensive line does concern me. I lean under 488 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 3: here show a little bit of value, but their schedule 489 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 3: definitely gets tougher. They played sen Bowl teams from last year. 490 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 3: Last year they only played five. They basically swapped out 491 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: Liberty and app State for NC State and BYU this year. 492 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: So you go from two groups of fives A two 493 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 3: Bower five and non con and then instead of Navy 494 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 3: in North Texas, you played Memphis and two lane. I 495 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 3: would lean under you can still find twenty two to 496 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: one out there at Caesars to win the conference. I 497 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 3: have no interest. I personally project them five point eight. 498 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 3: They're implied win total is six point twenty five. 499 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: So a little bit of value in the under football 500 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: season is here, folks. 501 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: And we've got some huge improvements and updates coming to 502 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: the award winning Action Network app, but we're very excited 503 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: to discuss those in the weeks ahead. But to get 504 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: the most out of the app, you still need to 505 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: be an Action Pro subscriber. 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That's Actionework dot Com slash Pro and use 514 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: code BBOC twenty for twenty dollars off the annual price 515 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: of Action Pro. 516 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 2: We just mentioned. 517 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: Teams that could potentially be a good over bets on 518 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 1: a weekly basis. 519 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the FAU Owls. 520 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: Three to nine last season one and seven in conference 521 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: place seventy five to one to win the American Their 522 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: win total is set at four and a half. Only 523 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: one starter returns, and that's on offense, one hundred and 524 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: twelfth in returning production overall, one hundred and twentieth, specifically 525 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: on defense. 526 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: We've seen this movie before. 527 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: You take an FCS coach, you take a quarterback, you 528 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: put it together. It's not the exact same situation, but 529 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: we got some of the same characters. 530 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 2: Kittlee and Zappi and a. 531 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: Host of receivers led by Jared Stearns came to Western 532 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: Kentucky from Houston Baptist and they took the world by storm. 533 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: Zappi sept the FBS passing record for yards and touchdowns 534 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: in the. 535 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: Season Faily Zappi. 536 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: The Hilltoppers went ten and four against the spread that year, 537 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: and also ten of their fourteen games cash the over. Now, 538 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: Kittlee reunites with a quarterback he recruited in Caden Belcamp 539 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: brings his favorite target with him in Easton Messer. The 540 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: buzz out of Spring was that they could not be 541 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: stopped offensively. Velcamp in particularly sharp as hell. I think 542 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: if this offensive line holds up, they're going to pop 543 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: across the board because of that quarterback play caller number 544 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: one target continuity, as I mentioned, though only one returning 545 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: so how long does it take for everybody to work 546 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: in concert together? 547 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: Defensively zero returning starters. 548 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: Brett Dewhurst is in his mid thirties, never called plays 549 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: before at the college level, and as I mentioned, Super 550 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: Green Unit one hundred and twentieth in returning production was 551 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: zero full time starters there. They have some potential starters 552 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: from Big Ten schools like Minnesota and Rutgers. They have 553 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: an edge rusher that I talked about in an earlier episode, 554 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: and Eric Brandley Junior who could maybe vie for double 555 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: digit tackles for loss. But I think it's going to 556 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: be shootout city across the board for this offense. 557 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 2: How do we play these guys week to week? 558 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: I think that's where more the value is because I 559 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: do think there's some significant variance in the fact that 560 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: they could score thirty eight forty five points and lose 561 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: to an eight AC game, So it makes it difficult 562 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: for me to get in on the win total. I'll 563 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: go to you, Duck in terms of anything else you're 564 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: seeing under the hood. 565 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: In this first year with Kitley at the Helm. 566 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 4: Well, they could score thirty eight or forty five points 567 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: and lose by two touchdowns. That's how bad this defense 568 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 4: could potentially be. I actually went under on the win 569 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 4: total four and a half. I've bet at earlier in 570 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 4: the summer. There's a lot of variants here. We'll we'll 571 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 4: talk through it here. 572 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: This is the. 573 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 4: Only time that we go under on this program all year, 574 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 4: week to week. We got to go over because the 575 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 4: offense is going to absolutely be electric this season. We're 576 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 4: going to see fireworks week to week. They're going to 577 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 4: go blazing fast, they're going to go pass happy. We've 578 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 4: seen this regimen work out before with Kittley when he 579 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 4: brings in his guy, who brings in his receiver, who 580 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 4: runs their system, and now Kittley gets to kind of 581 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 4: have the shackles taken off of his wrists. He doesn't 582 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 4: have to answer to anybody. He has complete and full 583 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 4: control over this offense. As the head coach, video game 584 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 4: numbers expected here. I expect tremendously high scoring games the 585 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 4: offense with belt Camp, He's in full control of the system, 586 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,239 Speaker 4: he's familiar with it. I think he's going to just 587 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 4: hit on all cylinders on day one and they have 588 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 4: a capable backup if something happens to him and Zach Gibson, 589 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 4: who comes in via the portal. The running back room 590 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 4: is short up, I think with a couple guys that 591 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 4: they've got in. Xavier Terrell comes in and Jamari Sanins 592 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 4: will come in and split carries, so if they do 593 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 4: sneak in the run game, they'll have some serviceable pop 594 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 4: there in the running back room. Four or five decent 595 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 4: options in the receiver room. We mentioned East Semester who 596 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 4: comes in with Velt Camp, but Javari Smith is fine, 597 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 4: Quincy Brown will provide a good target. 598 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 2: Jr. 599 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 4: Wilson comes in from Virginia, so they definitely have some 600 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 4: players in the receiver room that can make plays. There 601 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 4: is a question on the offensive line. It was bad 602 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 4: last season for FAU and now they're kind of piecing 603 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 4: together with Juco and using the transfer portal at the 604 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 4: P four level to get some guys. But it's a 605 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 4: different system. It's going to take some cohesiveness and so 606 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 4: they're going to kind of be learning on the fly 607 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 4: based on how their schedule sets up. But if they 608 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 4: can shore that up, watch out because this offense is 609 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 4: going to be good to go. 610 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: You know. 611 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: Offensively. 612 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 4: They bring some guys in from UTAP, Purdue, Kansas, Wake, Liberty, 613 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 4: but they were all reserves. It's kind of a raw unit. 614 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 4: We really don't know everything that we're going to specifically see, 615 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 4: especially from the secondary. The d line was atrocious last season, 616 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 4: five point zero yards per carry surrendered on the ground, 617 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 4: absolutely shredded by the upper teams in the American last season. 618 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 4: They gave up four hundred rushing yards twice in a game. 619 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: Last year. 620 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 4: It was just so stinking bad with the run defense, 621 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 4: and it may not be a lot better. Last year 622 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 4: they ran at a relatively slow pace offensively, and they 623 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 4: kind of had some games that were lower than normal possessions. 624 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 4: Let's say, well, this year they're going to be blazing fast. 625 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 4: I mean, you could see sixteen seventeen possessions in a game, 626 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 4: and that defense is just going to be hung out 627 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 4: to dry. I don't think the stop unit is going 628 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 4: to be where they need to, and it's going to 629 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 4: pay the price for the type of style of offense. 630 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 4: So when I look at the schedule and when I 631 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 4: look at everything that's laid out here, I see, you know, 632 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 4: probably winnables. Obviously against FA Florida A and M and FIU, 633 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 4: But you've got Memphis on the schedule, South Florida, Navy, 634 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 4: two lane, yukon ECU. Those are going to be all 635 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 4: tougher opponents than what I have paid for. Florida Atlantic. 636 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 4: You got to go to Maryland to open the season, 637 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 4: could be an interesting spot against the number, but not 638 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 4: surely win that. So then to go over, you're gonna 639 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 4: have to sweep with FIU, Rice, UAB and Tulsa. I 640 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 4: don't know. I don't know if they do that or not. 641 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 4: Just based on how the defense is set to perform, 642 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 4: It's gonna be a fun. 643 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: Group to watch this year. 644 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 4: I look forward to betting a ton of overs on 645 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 4: their games this season. I think it starts right away 646 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: until the market adjusts. But the defense really has me 647 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 4: putting the brakes on them, really leaping up in the 648 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 4: standings because this group could just be horrendous defensively. 649 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 3: Kiley is now the youngest and tallest head coach in FBS. 650 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 3: I project right around four and a half, so I don't 651 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 3: see any diet, but I do you guys need to 652 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 3: pump the brakes on this offense being the greatest show 653 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 3: on turf. I mean how many times is Belcam gonna 654 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 3: throw it to Messer? I mean, is he gonna have 655 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 3: two hundred and eighty catches? Two hundred and eighty targets? 656 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: For sure? We'll see if he catches all of them. 657 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 3: Wilson could be okay, but I still questions about the 658 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 3: running back room, the wide receiver depth, the tight end room. 659 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 3: The offensive line is look really scared of me. The 660 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 3: only guy back was really bad last year. He could 661 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 3: move from right tackle to right guard. In a way, 662 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 3: it's a good thing you're learning a new scheme, but 663 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 3: I don't like the personnel they have it, and they 664 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 3: lost the centers now in the Seahawks. 665 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: The left guard is now in Louisville. So I'm not. 666 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 3: Fully sold on this offense being lights out, especially right away. 667 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 3: The defense, yeah, they lost everyone on the defensive line. 668 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: Who cares? They were awful except for Davis, their defensive tackle. 669 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: He was good. 670 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 3: I think he's with the Colts now. But I don't 671 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: really like the guys that they brought in on the 672 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 3: defensive line. I'm right on market here. Nothing for me 673 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 3: but more questions than answers, for sure. 674 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: All right on to the Memphis Tigers eleven and two 675 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: overall last year six and two in the American Frisco 676 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: Bowl shootout win over West Virginia eleven to two to 677 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: win the American This year eight and a half as 678 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: their win total only three starters back there to on offense, 679 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: won on defense, one hundred and nineteenth in returning production. 680 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: I guess two hundred and fifty million dollars doesn't get 681 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: you much in this economy, because Memphis dangled that number 682 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: out to the Big twelve and they got laughed out 683 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: of the room. 684 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: So for now it's the American as their home. And 685 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: the question I have for. 686 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: You, Stuck, is did Memphis miss their window? Let me 687 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: just like paint this real quick. They won eleven games 688 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: last year, but they got to replace nearly everyone, including 689 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: Seth Nigan who started a million games for them. Mario 690 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: Anderson was a touchdown machine. There's got to be some 691 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: drop off with Brandon Lewis in your opinion, right. 692 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. I mean the offense is gonna look 693 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: signfically different. I mean, Henigan's a four year starter. I 694 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 3: expect Memphis to be a little more run heavy. You know, 695 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 3: they lost their top two backs, but you're gonna have Lewis, 696 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 3: who can run the ball. They get smiited back from 697 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 3: injury at running back, the Rosier's back, so I think 698 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 3: they still have a good backfield and when you include 699 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 3: Lewis in that they can run the ball. The question 700 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 3: is that the offensive line gon to enable them to 701 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 3: do that. And that's one of the biggest questions I 702 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 3: have on this team. Because you lost Holler at center 703 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 3: it was really good. You lost your left guard Hill 704 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 3: in the spring to Colorado. That was a huge, huge lost. 705 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 3: You basically lost everyone except your left tackle Adams and Breeland, 706 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 3: who I'm not sure he's up the part, Like you're 707 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 3: gonna need a Harvard Yukon transfers to really come in 708 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 3: and hit outside of I mean, the offense line is 709 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 3: a ton of questions. Wide receiver. You lose your top 710 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 3: three too, You're gonna need some transfers to hit there. 711 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: So wide receiver is a question for me as well, 712 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 3: Like who's the number one? They had a ton of 713 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 3: injuries in the spring, so like there was what's this 714 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 3: step truck gonna look like? 715 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 2: What? 716 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 3: It was hard to get any intel and what they 717 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: look like in the spring, but I imagine they're gonna 718 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 3: look a lot different on offense, try to go run heavy. 719 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 3: The bottom could fall off out of this team. Like 720 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 3: there's just a ton of variants with but they're recruiting well. 721 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 3: They brought in a good portal class, they have money. 722 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 3: I don't think that their shot at the playoff is 723 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 3: shot because they have money from FedEx and they're still 724 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 3: recruiting well. I think they'll eventually get there one season. 725 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 3: I don't think it's this year, just with how much 726 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 3: turnover they had. And then I mean their offense loses 727 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,959 Speaker 3: a quarterback to the NFL, your top two backs, your 728 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 3: top three receivers two to the NFL, a tight end 729 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 3: to the NFL, and four key offensive lineman one to 730 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 3: the NFL. So that's major. And then on defense you 731 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 3: could start ten transfers. They might start ten transfers on 732 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 3: the nine on offense. That's what this team is this year. 733 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 3: This is just your transfer every team. It could like, 734 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 3: could it be a Florida State they could could it 735 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 3: go really well and they could win the league yep, 736 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 3: and they could go to the playoff. There's a ton 737 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 3: of variants. I don't see them being a playoff team, 738 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 3: but I mean I think they're in that top mix. 739 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 3: They're with like two lane utsa NYVE, South Florida, and 740 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 3: there's like almost nothing separating those teams. But I think 741 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 3: Memphis has more variants and I think a little more 742 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 3: downside than some of those teams. I mean, even in 743 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 3: the defensive backfield, you lost both your corners to the NFL, 744 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 3: so in this defensive scheme needs good linebackers. Well, you 745 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 3: lost the linebacker of the NFL another to Florida State. 746 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 3: I'm not sure that they have them here, like Brumfeld, Rosel, 747 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 3: like Watts, like these guys, they don't. 748 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: Really move the needle for me. 749 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 3: So I think their linebacker play, their cornerback play could 750 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 3: take a big step back unless the guy like Cooper 751 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 3: from Florida State really. 752 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 2: Hits at corner. 753 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 3: A lot of questions worried about their special teams too, 754 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 3: So last year they had fifteen players on defense with 755 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty plus naps. 756 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 2: Fourteen are gone. This is a brand new team. 757 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 3: I don't think that they're markedly better, or I'd say 758 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 3: I don't think they're better at any position group on paper. 759 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 2: Than last year going into this year. 760 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 3: So I mean they could end up being better, Like 761 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 3: I said, there's a ton of variants, but I don't 762 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 3: personally see it. Having said that, like, I'm what's their 763 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 3: their win total is sitting at what eight and a half? 764 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 3: You can find over eight and a half plus one 765 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 3: fifteen is the best price out there. I project them 766 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 3: that's implied like eight point two ish when you put 767 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 3: one to five, depending on what price you get, I 768 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 3: mean I project them in around eight point five. So 769 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 3: actually show a little bit of die on the over 770 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 3: like I haven't favored in eleven eleven, favored in eleven games. 771 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: Probably, Yeah, that's where I want to hop in stuck 772 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: just real quick, because what's interesting, I'm nodding along with 773 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: everything that you're saying in terms of not only the 774 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: production but the stars that they lost. But unlike a 775 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: lot of G five schools that try to figure out 776 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 1: what they're ceiling is by challenging themselves in the non 777 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: con that's simply just not the case with Memphis. 778 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: Like they could be a diet version. 779 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: Of the twenty twenty four team, and we won't even 780 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: really know if that's the case until late October because 781 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 1: this schedule is just made to stack wins. An FCS 782 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: opponent at Georgia State at Troy hosting Arkansas in an 783 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: awful spot for the Hogs, stuck between Ole Miss and 784 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: Notre Dame, throwing FAU Tulsa and UAB. We're already at 785 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: six and one or seven and zero without really knowing 786 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: if they're like even ninety five percent of what they 787 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: were last year. So I think maybe just from a 788 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: win total perspective, if you had a play you need 789 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: to go over because of the schedule. But I want 790 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: to like set an alarm for myself when they get 791 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: out of that downysoft opening those first seven games to 792 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: then say, all right, if there's an over reaction by 793 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: the market and some of these prices are off by three, 794 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: four to five points. 795 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 2: It's time to start fading Memphis late. 796 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: And then also we get the benefit of watching all 797 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 1: these new faces, seeing how Lewis looks at quarterback. What 798 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 1: do you think, Duck in terms of them being challenged 799 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: at all other than like I said, Arkansas obviously an 800 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: SEC team, an SEC brand with those kind of athletes. 801 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: But that's the exact moment that you want to host 802 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: Arkansas because I think it's the perfect letdown look ahead spot. 803 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely a spot for Arkansas to exhale before they 804 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 4: have to gear back up for Notre Dame. It's the 805 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 4: spot I had circled in red Ink in the summer, 806 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 4: and I'm sure Memphis did as well, so they'll certainly 807 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 4: be ready to go for that one. I'm certain of that. 808 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 4: There's a lot of new faces here at all three 809 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 4: levels of the defense. They could be better than we 810 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 4: might think, just based on the fact that these are 811 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 4: guys who have played snaps, They've got game experience, they 812 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 4: contributed at their other stops, so it's not like they're 813 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 4: completely green and don't know how to play at the 814 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 4: FBS level. So while high variance, they would be okay, 815 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 4: and they're gonna have some time to figure it out. 816 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 4: I think when you look at the schedule with Chattanooga, 817 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 4: Georgia State, and Troy will have a little bit of 818 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 4: time to kind of get things ready to go that 819 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 4: first three weeks of the season. I don't have a 820 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 4: strong position either way, but I would I would truly 821 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 4: just based on the start and the way the schedule 822 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 4: situationally sets up. I would lean over Yeah. 823 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: Schedule just they just won the schedule lottery. 824 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not I'm not going under just because of 825 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 3: my projection in the schedule, but not a team I 826 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 3: have interested in investing in this year. 827 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: Next up Navy ten and three last season six and 828 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: two in conference play, they get the Armed Forces Bowl 829 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,240 Speaker 1: win over Oklahoma. Never fade a Service Academy in Armed 830 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: Forces or Lockheed Martin bull if there's any military connection 831 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: to go ahead and play them blindly. 832 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 2: They're five to one to win the American this time around. 833 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: Win totals all the way up to eight and a half, 834 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: twelve starters return eight on offense, four on defense, thirty 835 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: fourth in returning production, twelfth offensively. 836 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 2: Usually we see a. 837 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: Service academy have a magical year fueled by experience, continuity, turnover, luck, 838 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: a lot of close wins, and then we all brace 839 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: for that fall from grace. In the past fifty years, 840 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: when a service academy wins double digit games, they fall 841 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: by at least three in the win column the following season. 842 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: But the question here for this group is was Navy 843 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 1: actually had a schedule last year because the offense cooked 844 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: really bad run defenses thanks to Drew Chronics millennial wing 845 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: t Blake Krvath making the right decision all the time. 846 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: He actually got everything going In the passing game two, 847 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: he threw for thirteen passing touchdowns, the most by Navy 848 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 1: quarterback since. 849 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 2: Ricky Dobbs in twenty ten. 850 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: He has all his weapons back in the backfield, most 851 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: notably Eli Heidenreich, who pulls double duty also being a 852 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: key pass catcher in this offense. The offensive line needs 853 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 1: to replace new starters up front, but I think they're 854 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: still going to be lethal against middling to bad run defenses, 855 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 1: and there's more than a few. 856 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: On this schedule. But can they hold up late defensively? 857 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 1: They play that Fau air raid, they get a Rodya 858 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: at North Texas, at Notre Dame versus USF, and at 859 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: Memphis all before the Army Navy game to end the season. 860 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 1: That's a rough finish for a defense that could be 861 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: worse at least on paper, even with a steady hand 862 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: with PJ Volker colin plays. I would need at least 863 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: nine to one to play them to win the conference, 864 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: because you could easily be five and one six and 865 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: oho feeling great both about their chances to win the 866 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: American and go over their win total and still not 867 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: get there. Because that's how treacherous the back half of 868 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 1: their schedule is do you see it playing out that way? 869 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: Stuck where they stack wins early they look like fire breathers, 870 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: and then again for the second straight year, the wheels 871 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: start to fall off in November. 872 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 3: Think they call this the American preview. I this on 873 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 3: American preview for me, the unpatriotics. I went, I'm going 874 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 3: under on Army and I'm going under on Nighty. 875 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:58,879 Speaker 4: He should know better. 876 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 3: I mean, I project eight point one point five the 877 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 3: best under you can find out there under eight and 878 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,760 Speaker 3: a half plus one twenty implied depending on the price. 879 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,280 Speaker 3: Eight point eight close to nine is their implied win total. 880 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 3: It's scary, though, because there's a really good chance they finished. 881 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 3: They start seven and zero v M I u AB 882 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 3: at Tulsa, Rice Air Force at Temple FAU and then 883 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 3: the schedule gets much tougher. But you want to talk 884 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 3: about a team that could potentially one to eighty from 885 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 3: last year. I know Horvath is back, I know all 886 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 3: their backs are back, their speedy receivers, But I mentioned 887 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 3: this with Army. The tackles. This team lost its entire 888 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 3: three deep at tackle, entire three deep, and tackles are 889 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 3: so important to this offense, they caught everything, they control, 890 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 3: all the communication, Like, I think the interior is still 891 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 3: gonna be good or decent with Purvis Nickels, and then 892 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 3: you got Smith back who had some time. We'll see 893 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,240 Speaker 3: Nichols might be moving to center. So that's something to watch. 894 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 3: But the tackles are major, major question mark for me. 895 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 3: The depth is especially shaky. But I mentioned the team 896 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 3: that could do it one to eighty. Why, well, last year, 897 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 3: this is the team number one in red zone. I 898 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 3: mean they were historically good in the red zone, historically 899 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 3: turnovers they got so many. The red zone defense was amazing, 900 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 3: all the interceptions they got, and they stayed so healthy. 901 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 3: I mean, the top twelve on their offense only missed 902 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 3: two total starts. Their entire offensive line was healthy the 903 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 3: whole year. If they have anyone get hurt on this 904 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 3: offensive line, it could be trouble bad. I mean, it 905 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 3: just could all fall apart. So I'm worried about the 906 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:40,720 Speaker 3: tackles on offense, and then on defense, I'm really worried 907 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 3: about the back seven. The defensive line still should be good. 908 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 3: I mean, Reid's gone, but they got everyone else back, 909 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 3: and I mean Robinson's a monster and we'll see if 910 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 3: someone can like an emerge to get those those pressures 911 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 3: that Red got. But they'll be okay on the defensive line, 912 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 3: But linebacker you lose. Ramos's a monster and Jacob is 913 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 3: so good against the run, big drop. Now you got 914 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 3: your strikers back in Campbell and McShane. But the defensive backfield, 915 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 3: this is one of the best pass defenses that Navy 916 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 3: has had ever and that's usually their weakness because they 917 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 3: just don't get the players in the back end. Well, 918 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 3: they had an All conference corner who's gone. Their safety 919 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 3: lane got drafted. He's gone. Their other safety Williams is gone, 920 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 3: and I mean they're all those three are all multi 921 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 3: year starters six thousand snaps too. 922 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 2: Hard is back at corner. 923 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 3: But he's probably not even gonna start, and he was 924 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 3: not that great last year. He might they might rotate 925 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 3: him back to safety. I like this kid Ross and 926 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 3: Onnia Hobb was supposed to be a starter last year 927 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 3: and then got hurt. So maybe their corners can be okay, 928 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 3: but there's still some questions there. But the safeties tackles 929 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 3: are so important on the Navy offense. The safeties on 930 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 3: this Navy defense that're gonna stunt a lot, play a 931 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 3: lot of zone, try to confuse it. The safeties are 932 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 3: the ones controlling and everything. Major question for me. And 933 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 3: then a team that wants to play field position. They 934 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 3: lost their best punter in school history in Riley. Reuth 935 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 3: questions there, Yeah, I'm going under both Army and Navy. 936 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, troops, I love you. 937 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 4: I can't. I'm a mron. 938 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, anchors away, I'm going under on Navy this year 939 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: as well. Corvath that the books out on them, the 940 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 1: casuals know about them. 941 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 2: I trust them. 942 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 3: They're gonna throw more. From what I'm hearing is they're 943 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 3: gonna try to throw a little bit more. But the 944 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 3: tackles are bad. Tackles are bad. 945 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: And as you point out, Stuck, it's no guarantee when 946 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 1: you have a crazy positive year and turnover margin that 947 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna flip the next year. But even if it's 948 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: just closer to fifty to fifty and then even split 949 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: throughout the year that was so instamental. You saw it 950 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: against Notre Dame. Once they had some bounces go against them, 951 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: it's snowballed. Fewer possessions. Those turnovers are magnified in terms 952 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: of their value. Duck, do you agree with what we're 953 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 1: laying down on this team? 954 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, there's just too much attrition on defense. I mean, 955 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,280 Speaker 4: I won't rehash everything that was said because it almost 956 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 4: mirrors my notes verbatim, but the offensive line pieces that 957 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,959 Speaker 4: are now missing, it's just so impossible to replicate until 958 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 4: you get into game situations and kind of know what 959 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 4: you have. 960 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:03,919 Speaker 2: So it's going to take some time. 961 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 4: It's critical not to understate that you get some film 962 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 4: on this offense with the quirky nuances of the wing 963 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 4: tea and the option hybrid, and once you had some 964 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,280 Speaker 4: film on it, teams were able to adapt a lot easier. 965 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 4: You saw less explosivity. You saw Navy really have to 966 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 4: grind out possessions in this basically last third of the season. 967 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 4: They had so much explosivity early in the season that 968 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 4: kind of just went away. They all have to be very, 969 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 4: very fortuitous to repeat the type of run that we 970 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,839 Speaker 4: saw out of the middies last year. 971 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: Now we're splitting this American preview into two parts, but 972 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 1: before we get to the last team here in part one, Stuck, 973 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 1: you have a little invitation for listeners who are going 974 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 1: to be in the Chicago Lands area for a week. 975 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 3: Zero yeah, twenty third week zero Joe's be there. You 976 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 3: don't even RSVP anything, just show up. Will be there 977 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,959 Speaker 3: all day from the start. I think e eleven thirty am. 978 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,320 Speaker 3: Kick Come hang out with us, wallb there, Colin myself, 979 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 3: Dug Calavary, So come hang out and looking forward to 980 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 3: seeing something again, meeting some of you for the first 981 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 3: time and would love to buy you, guys some drinks 982 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,280 Speaker 3: and sweats and games to kick off the college football season. 983 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 3: So make sure that you show up if you're in 984 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 3: the area and are available. Promise it'll be a ton 985 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 3: of fun. 986 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 2: Could say a Blens swing all all right? 987 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: North Texas six and seven last year three and five 988 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: in the American lost thirty to twenty eight to Texas 989 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 1: State in the First Responders Bowl, just about twenty to 990 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 1: one to win the conference, the win total sitting at 991 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 1: six and a half, six starters returning three on each 992 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: side of the ball, seventy ninth in returning production, but 993 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: thirtieth on defense. They were five and one last season. 994 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: First start, they were absolutely cooking with Chandler Morris. Then 995 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: they lose a shootout to Memphis fifty two forty four. 996 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 2: No shame in it. 997 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: They went down the swinging, They actually outgained them. They 998 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 1: had six hundred and fifty three total yards in that game. 999 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: But then the same result against Tulane, a forty five 1000 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: thirty seven loss out gained the Green Wave again. But 1001 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: the bigger loss in that one was a Chandler Morris's 1002 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: shoulder got banged up. They never listed him officially as 1003 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: somebody who was struggling with an injury, but it was 1004 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,240 Speaker 1: clear to see for everybody. Not only was he gutting 1005 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: through it, but they had it changed their play calling mix, 1006 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 1: their run pass mix, and the wheels just fell off 1007 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,720 Speaker 1: because of it. You know, for the rest of the season, 1008 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 1: they just didn't have that same bite offensively. So they 1009 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: start five to one, they finished six and seven, And 1010 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: now we're gonna have to assume that they're going to 1011 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: find an answer or replacement for Chandler Morris. Who's going 1012 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 1: to be in Charlottesfield playing for UVA. Reese Poffenbarger or 1013 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,760 Speaker 1: Drew Mesta Maker. I trust in this Eric Morris offense. 1014 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: Just to be totally honest, Reese bowled out at Albany. 1015 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: If you go back and watch his you know his 1016 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: play for the Great Danes. He was somebody that was 1017 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 1: not just a threat through the air, but also he 1018 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,359 Speaker 1: had a little bit of speed. He could scoot when 1019 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 1: he pulled the ball on some of the Reids mess 1020 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,720 Speaker 1: to maker as well as somebody who can use his legs. 1021 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: So I assume this offense is gonna hum. The question 1022 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 1: is can they get any stops they snag skyl or 1023 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: Cassidy from Sam Houston. 1024 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:13,760 Speaker 2: To fix this defense. 1025 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: What a hire to be able to go in in 1026 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,439 Speaker 1: state and grab somebody from an emerging power like Sam 1027 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: Houston who's coming off a ten win season, so much 1028 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 1: of that was late to Cassidy's feed. Do you think 1029 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 1: he can get this defense fixed. 1030 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 3: I probably show a little bit of value in the 1031 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,280 Speaker 3: over I'm still a little worried about the quarterback position, 1032 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 3: but I trust the offense. I trust Morris like you, 1033 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 3: I think there's newrth Texas in that second tier. There's 1034 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 3: a chance they can jump up to the first tier 1035 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 3: if Cassidy fixed the defense. Like so, I think that 1036 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 3: they're I'm going to take a small shot in North 1037 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 3: Texas to win. You can find a twenty to one 1038 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 3: out there. I think they're worth just some couch change. 1039 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 3: The bet is you trust in the offense. I think 1040 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 3: his mess maker is going to win the job. But 1041 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 3: you also have quarterback depth that there's injuries. You lost 1042 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 3: a lot on offense, but I think they have the 1043 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 3: pieces there to be okay. The defense is just gonna 1044 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 3: come down to the Cassidy, the Sam Houston State transfer 1045 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 3: or some other transfers. They got a hit and you 1046 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 3: gotta be able to get stops. But the thing I like, 1047 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 3: and by the way, their offense last year was so hurt. 1048 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 3: It's so many injuries in the offensive line at running back. 1049 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 3: If Cassidy fixes their d and they take a big 1050 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 3: schematic jump, they have to schedule. I mean, among the 1051 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 3: top eight projected teams, they only face Army on the road, 1052 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 3: and I'm low on Army. They get Navy at home 1053 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 3: in a great spot maybe could be seven and zero. 1054 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,319 Speaker 3: They have Notre Dame the next week. They're going down 1055 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 3: to Denton, Like that's a great spot. They avoid Memphis 1056 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 3: Tu Lane, They host USF, Navy, and UTSA. They have 1057 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 3: seven home games. They get Army early, which I think 1058 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 3: is good. Like this team could go on a run 1059 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,439 Speaker 3: at the end of the year. I think it's gonna 1060 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 3: gonna be messmaker. Whoy the way didn't even start in 1061 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:38,720 Speaker 3: high school. 1062 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 2: He played. 1063 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 3: He's like a punter in a safety. He couldn't beat anyone, 1064 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 3: and then he walked on and he looked great in 1065 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 3: the Bowl. But I think it's worth a flyer at 1066 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 3: twenty to one on North Texas with this schedule and 1067 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 3: the upside on the defense. 1068 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 2: They give me some mean green. 1069 00:48:53,520 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 3: They owe me for that Army game last year. I 1070 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 3: will remember for the rest of my life. I don't 1071 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 3: how many times Morris could throw an interception at the 1072 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 3: two yard line and they got in that one time, 1073 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 3: I swear, and they didn't call it a touchdown. That 1074 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 3: game will haunt me forever. But North Texas long shot 1075 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 3: for me. 1076 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going North Texas as long shot to a sprinkle. 1077 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: I agree with the assessment if this defense ups their game, 1078 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 1: the schedule is there. 1079 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 2: As anyone who listens. 1080 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,839 Speaker 1: To the show knows that I'm susceptible to an FCS guy, 1081 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 1: whether it's a coach or a quarterback coming in. I 1082 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,359 Speaker 1: watched a lot of Poffenbarger's film. I think he's kind 1083 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 1: of the perfect fit for this offense, and like we said, 1084 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you'll get the Bowl game. That was an 1085 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 1: incredible performance by mess to Maker, So either one. But 1086 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 1: I want Poffenbarger to be the guy. And if this defense, 1087 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,839 Speaker 1: you know, even cracks the top seventy five, top eighty, 1088 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: We're not asking for him pull any miracles here defensively, 1089 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,760 Speaker 1: but like, just be a little bit more havoc minded 1090 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 1: in the secondary, be a little bit better against the run, 1091 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, this schedule, everything is in 1092 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: play to be able to win just about every American 1093 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 1: game on the schedule. Duck, are we out in front 1094 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 1: of our skis here? 1095 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,320 Speaker 2: Are we just a little too optimistic on this bunch? 1096 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 4: Well, it'll be stunning this year at the conclusion of 1097 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 4: the season to turn on the Sam Houston State film 1098 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,839 Speaker 4: when we see their defense and what it will have 1099 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 4: become without their defensive coordinator. And if you look back 1100 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 4: at the prior years, it'll be just amazing to see 1101 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 4: what the job was that he did when he was 1102 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 4: at sam Houston State. I think that he'll have an 1103 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 4: immediate impact on this defense with what they have for 1104 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,840 Speaker 4: the talent infusion, you know, you look at the defensive line, 1105 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 4: they have a decent bunch coming in, a couple guys 1106 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 4: from sam Houston State, and then the backups are at 1107 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 4: least experienced, so if they're going to rotate some guys in, 1108 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 4: they actually have some intestinal fortitude on the defensive line 1109 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,720 Speaker 4: that should be able to hold up during the entirety 1110 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 4: of the season. I think the linebacker room will really 1111 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 4: benefit from Trey Field and Samaji Burrell coming in from 1112 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,359 Speaker 4: sam Houston. Yeah. I think defensively this group will be 1113 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,760 Speaker 4: a night and day better than what we have seen. 1114 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 4: They weren't complete our last year, even though they played 1115 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,799 Speaker 4: in a high tempo system and they gave up plenty 1116 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 4: of yards and points. It wasn't all bad. I like 1117 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 4: over the win total two six and a half. I 1118 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 4: think it's light. I think there's nine games that they 1119 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 4: show up feeling really good that they have a chance 1120 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 4: to win, including all of the non conference games they 1121 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 4: get army early in the season. As Stuck had said, 1122 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,279 Speaker 4: which I had in my notes, you host South Florida, UTSA, 1123 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,360 Speaker 4: and Navy. I mean, really to have a shot at 1124 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,919 Speaker 4: the conference, you got to win what maybe one of those, 1125 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 4: and you can have yourself at least in position to 1126 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 4: be in the conversation, they should breeze through four of 1127 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,439 Speaker 4: the last five. I think this schedule is very conducive. Yeah, 1128 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 4: this is a team that I definitely think is ascending 1129 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 4: this season. I think they're going to surprise some people 1130 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,799 Speaker 4: in the American absolutely twenty to one or greater. Take 1131 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 4: a quick flyer on them. There's absolutely no question this 1132 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 4: is going to be an improved group. 1133 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,959 Speaker 1: All right, if you're listening in on your podcast feed, 1134 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 1: we already have the second part of this podcast. Teetups 1135 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 1: to come over and join us for Stuck and Duck 1136 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 1: on my calvaries. 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