1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh what a day. 8 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 2: We got move it and shaken in the NFL. 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 3: The tampering windows open, but we've got two hours into 10 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: the tampering window. The illegal tampering period in the NFL 11 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 3: is open. It is wide open, and we've got movement 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 3: around the league. It is LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 3: in for calling here on The Herd on Fox Sports Radio. 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: You can find us live on the iHeartRadio app on 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: hundreds of affiliates all across the country. If you're listening 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: on the podcast, we appreciate you doing so as we 17 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: take you all the way up until the end of 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: this hour three o'clock Eastern time, noon Pacific. We've been 19 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 3: talking a lot about the movement in the NFL. We've 20 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: got the great Greg two a year who's monitoring the 21 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 3: transaction wire for the legal tampering period. So it is 22 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: time for a nether update from tongue in Touey himself 23 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: to find out who's going where in the national football tea. 24 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: Breaking news from Fox Sports. 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 4: All right, guys, this is another sneaky good signing here. 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 4: Travis Etn JAG's running back, Travis Etn, we'll be signing 27 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 4: with the Saints. 28 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: With the Saints, I mean, what happened to their running back? 29 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: What's his name? The the dula McAllister, the elevator assassin Kamara, 30 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: Alvin Kamar. Yeah, what happened to him? 31 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 5: Oh? 32 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: You know he's, you know, not the player he once was. 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: And yeah, by the way, if you do see album Kamara, 34 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: I'd recommend it. In the stairs. 35 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 4: He's under contract this year, so I think it's a 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 4: nice little one two punch. 37 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: Is that what that is? 38 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: That's so that's your I see what you did there too, 39 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 3: want one two punch? I see what he did there? 40 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: He always in the gutter, throw a class in the gutter. 41 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: That one isn't in the gutter. That one's in the elevator. 42 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: I told you man, you see him take the stairs. 43 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: That's the lesson elevator. Wait for the next one. Thank you. 44 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: You know what's great about that story though. 45 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: No worries, man, don't they knew he had assaulted a 46 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: guy at an elevator, but they still let him play 47 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl. Okay, we don't want had to do 48 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 3: a little bit more investigating. 49 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: So we don't want to take hibout of this game. 50 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, it is uh Travis, Well, I think it 51 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: was a tremendously disappointing year for the New Orleans Sayings, 52 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: but I do I do think the Saints come away going. 53 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: We got our quarterback, Tyler. 54 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 4: Trying to build around them, trying to get Tyler. 55 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 3: Tyler Shuck played much better than I think anybody thought 56 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: he was going to play. I believe he just turned 57 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 3: thirty four, if I'm not mistaken, so maybe, uh, you know, 58 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 3: maybe that's a bit long in the tooth, but he 59 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: played a lot better than I think a lot of 60 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: people expected. And I think the Saints are still because 61 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 3: remember back before the season started, they were predicted to 62 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: be the worst team in the league. It was the 63 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: tanking for arch Manning there. You know, all the stars 64 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: were gonna line they're going to bring him back, and 65 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: then you come to find out the Saints haven't drafted 66 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: a quarterback in the first round since Archie Manning. That 67 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: was the last time, so Drew Brees obviously from the Chargers, 68 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: all the quarterbacks that they've had, they've never drafted one 69 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: in the first round. And if they in fact found 70 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: their guy in Tyler Shuck, that's going to be another 71 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: guy that was drafted later on. And he performed at 72 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: a high level last year and they were a fun 73 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: team to watch. 74 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: They went four to one undersuck the last part of season, 75 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: finishing up stabilizing their their salary situation. I'd listen, if 76 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: Shuck can be that guy now that they have film 77 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: on him and and they can move forward. I just 78 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: think that there are a lot of isn't Cam Jordan 79 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: isn't he gone this year? He isn't even he's a 80 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: free agent? Just bring like Kellen Moore is a is 81 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: a fine, fine coach, like I think his his history 82 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: says that he can build an offense and this team 83 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: can be a a very very productive unit. But what 84 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 2: are they going to do on defense? And and and listen, 85 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: I just does this does adding adding this piece to 86 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: the backfield etn to the backfield? I mean, do you 87 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: feel confident in this personnel altogether. Four and one could 88 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: be misleading if you ask me so. 89 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: Jordan's Scholtz is reporting that the deal for Travis atn 90 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 3: is four years, fifty two million. We don't know the 91 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 3: guarantees and what what that entails. But my one question 92 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: about him would be why did it take so long? 93 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: Someome just all right, man, here's what we're gonna let 94 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: you do. You don't have a favorite team, We're just 95 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 3: gonna like whatever name I pulled, I'd be like, is 96 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: there anything else? And throw four names in a hat. 97 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: We're gonna shake him up, and you got to pick one. 98 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: And it's the NFC South going on? 99 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: Is there any other choice? Like? Gotten to my. 100 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 5: I don't know. 101 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: Can I just watch? Can I just watch baseball? In September? 102 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: You're like, I don't know, you know, do I really 103 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: have to go? No? 104 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 5: No? 105 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that division's rough man Tampa Bay. 106 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: Who knows what's gonna happen with Mike Evans, But it 107 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: appears that that's a real likelihood that he could be 108 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: going out. 109 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: And then you've got it seemed like they were trending up. 110 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay was like a disappointing team. Oh, yeah, it 111 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: seem like they have the ability to trend up more 112 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: than what they did. It seemed like they cracked their 113 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: heads off of a ceiling as well. And then you 114 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: look at Carolina, and Carolina gave you glimpses like there 115 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 2: was there was positive moments for Carolina like things to 116 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 2: get excited about. Tetoroa. T Mak is a beast. He 117 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: is a beast, and it even gave life to Bryce 118 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: Young and what he's able to bring to the table. 119 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 2: This team showed some signs of life this year. In fact, 120 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: it would probably be the team I'm highest on in 121 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: this division. I love Bejon Robinson. I think they got 122 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: some fine football players that they've brought in on that 123 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons team. But I just think that there are 124 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: two bigger question marks. There are bigger question marks in 125 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: my estimation with Michael Pennix in this Atlanta Falcons team 126 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: than even with Bryce Young moving forward with this Carolina 127 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: Panthers team. And with that being said, I like Baker Mayfield. 128 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: I think Baker Mayfield is the best quarterback in that division. 129 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: I just don't know where this Tampa Bay team is 130 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: going currently after seeing the way they finished the year. 131 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: Last year. 132 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 3: That's just my take. They did resign Kate Oughton, Okay, 133 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: tight end Kate Otton is going back to the Bucks. 134 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, and then you've got the league right in 135 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: the fringe. They could go up or they could go down, 136 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: Like you don't know which way this Tampa team is 137 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: going to go this year. 138 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: And then you've got the rumors that are out there 139 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: that Twa Takabailo, who was released by the Dolphins earlier today, 140 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: potentially could end up in Atlanta, you know, create some 141 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: competition there for Michael Pennix junior. A couple of lefties 142 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: out there. They should you know, they should do just 143 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 3: bring back every lefty that. 144 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: Ever existed in the NFL. So, Tbo, Mike Vic, who else? 145 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: Steve Young wasn't wasn't Bloomersiasin wasn't uh Jacksonville Jacksonville quarterback. 146 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: Wasn't he a lefty? 147 00:07:58,840 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 5: Two? 148 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: Mark Burnell left of course? Yeah? 149 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Todd Marinovich, Todd, I mean, if we're doing this, 150 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: let's do it. Will sure anybody remember him back in 151 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: the day? Are you sure? I think so? If he's not, 152 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: he should have been. 153 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: A hell of a pool. If you you pulled that 154 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: many lefties out. I'm talking about man eleven eleven make 155 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: a wish city, all right? 156 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: So so tooy one are the other the other moves 157 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: that are making the making the headlines. 158 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: Got picked up as anybody picked. 159 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker is going to Kansas City. Right about Michael Thomas, we. 160 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: Were talking about the saying it's anything for Michael Thomas. 161 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: H didn't he beat up some guy who was doing 162 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 3: construction on his street? Michael Thomas? I think I think 163 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: he threw a brick at some guys windown. What about 164 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: Todd Gurley? Is Todd Gurley's out there running backs? What 165 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 3: about talk you've had that construction worker. You're just trying 166 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 3: to do your job. You've got you've got safety cones 167 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 3: out and an NFL was receiver throws a brick at 168 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: your windshield. 169 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 4: Kylas Kelsey will be returning to Kansas City. Also turn 170 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 4: one year deal. 171 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: This was Indy. 172 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 4: Indy made some moves today. Alec Pierce is back, four year, 173 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 4: one hundred and sixteen million deal, million dollar deal, eighty 174 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 4: four million guaranteed. And then they traded Michael Pittman to Pittsburgh, 175 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: which we think could be assigned. Maybe they're trying to 176 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 4: get Aaron Rodgers back, Mike McCarthy, there's a lot of 177 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 4: a lot of stuff aligning there. Elite. Willis heading to Miami, 178 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 4: three year deal, forty five million dollar guaranteed. Lvar is 179 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 4: not convinced he could be the starter. But that's a 180 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 4: lot of money he'll get. 181 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: He'll get what like twenty five or something to that 182 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: effect this year this season? Twenty five million. Yeah, what 183 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: are the guarantees on his forty five million guarante? Forty 184 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: five guarantee but a sixty six total. So we'll see 185 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: how it plays out. But does that break down to 186 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: like twenty five or something to that effect by the 187 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: year now fifteen, by the year a three year deal? 188 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: Forty five all right? No, do you not think that 189 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: the figure is high enough for it to definitively say 190 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: they're not going to do something else or somebody may 191 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: compete for that starting job. It's not I don't think 192 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 2: that that's a job security starting quarterback contract. I don't. 193 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't subscribe to it. Hey, for six 194 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: starts in your career, it's a good living. I'm not mad. 195 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: I'm not mad at it. But that's just like I said, 196 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: I looked it up. It does say multi tier. It 197 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: actually it says lower tier. It's it's closer to a 198 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 2: lower tier starting quarterbacks contract than it is to to 199 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: a top tier. 200 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 4: I just don't know what. I don't know what to 201 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 4: make a Quinn yours. I mean a lot of people 202 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,599 Speaker 4: like him down there. I just I don't know. I 203 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 4: watched him a lot of Texas and I just don't 204 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 4: know that he's a starting caliber NFL quarterback, like long term. 205 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: But why do the guy you compete with us? We 206 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: have the conversation of Malik Willis just being an incumbent 207 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: starting quarterback with his body of work. How do how 208 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: do six starts right? How do you confidently say this 209 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: is our guy, this is who we're going with, this 210 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: is the start. 211 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: Well, I think a lot of it is based on 212 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 3: what this market looks like this year through the draft, 213 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 3: the other quarterbacks that were that were available, and I 214 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 3: think that's why Malik Willis stepped up and was the 215 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: bell of the ball, as they say, because I think 216 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: people looked at him and said, in comparison to the 217 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 3: other quarterbacks around the league, look if it was me, 218 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: and this might be you know a little controversial. I 219 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: would have just stuck with Tua, Like, honest to god, 220 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: I would have stuck with Tua and said, all right, 221 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 3: maybe there's a new coaching staff. It's easier to get 222 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 3: out of the contract next year. But if this was 223 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 3: all about, you know, we need to you know, we're 224 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: trying to win games. I think Tua's done more than 225 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: Malik Willis has. Kyler Murray's done more than Malik Willis has. 226 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: What happened in Tennessee, Like, let's let's let's take a 227 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: step back here real quick, because we're talking all of 228 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: this hype. This is what's happened is a market was 229 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: created for Malik Willis through hype because I recall us 230 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: being on this show and having conversations about Malik Willis, 231 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: and we were excited about Malik Willis's talent coming out 232 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:19,479 Speaker 2: of college, but maybe unproving so on and so forth, YadA, YadA, YadA. 233 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: And he goes to Tennessee and he's not in Tennessee anymore. 234 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: He ends up and he ends up in Green Bay. 235 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 2: What happened in Tennessee? He was a starter there for 236 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: for a moment in time, wasn't he I don't think 237 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 2: I don't think he fared very well there. I'm just 238 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 2: trying to understand where did we get to a point 239 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: of where there's this definitive approach to saying that Malik 240 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: Willis is the guy in free agency or the guy 241 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: that you would have wanted to trade for to bring 242 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 2: to your team to improve your team. I'm not a 243 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: buyer that we're not buying that, say. 244 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: Ryan Ryan Tannehill was still in Tennessee, so Tannehill was 245 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 3: still there. Milik Willis appeared a couple of times for the. 246 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: Titans, Constane Hill wasn't good, and then yeah, well, like 247 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: you're behind your you're not starting behind a terrible starting quarterback, 248 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 2: Like and I love will Levice, so all due respect, 249 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: but I'm just saying there was the perfect opportunity. If 250 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 2: he's as good as people are saying is, it would 251 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: have been a perfect opportunity for him to take over 252 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 2: a team and be the starting quarterback as a franchise guy. 253 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: It didn't happen that way, So we didn't happen that 254 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: way in Green Bay either. We talked with TJ. Houshman 255 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: Zada last hour, who joined us here on Fox Sports Radio. 256 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: He shared his thoughts on the miliqu Will assigning in Miami. 257 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 5: I actually thought he would end up with the Arizona 258 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 5: Cardinals because of the connection of the Lafloors. I just 259 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 5: felt like, Oh, I'm gonna let my little brother. No, 260 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 5: you gotta get him. Do everything in your power to 261 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 5: getting The fact that he didn't end up with the 262 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 5: Arizona Cardinals kind of concerns me. But Half, who was 263 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 5: his defensive coordinator in Green Bay, he saw him every 264 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 5: damn practice, understands his work ethic and what he is 265 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 5: and what he isn't and so this will be an 266 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 5: interesting pairing. I'm assuming throw the ball twenty to twenty 267 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 5: five times a game. They gonna be run heavy. 268 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: So that was TJ. Huschman Zato who joined this last year. 269 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: I just don't think anyone should get carried away over 270 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: this move, That's all I'm saying. And I would not 271 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: be surprised if he doesn't maintain the starting job. And 272 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: that's just off of the body of work. Like I know, 273 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: he had some positive moments and he played some really 274 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: really great moments, some positive football for for Green Bay 275 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: when he got his opportunity to play. I just don't 276 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: understand why people get so carried away in recency effect, 277 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: like he had an opportunity, he thrived and he did well. 278 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: But I'm kind of with TJ. If he's as good 279 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: as people were making him out to be in this scenario, 280 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: why wouldn't you deliver the best quarterback available in this 281 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: year's you know, offseason to your brother. Now, granted that 282 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: they're both in the NFC, you did deliver him to 283 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: or he did go to a AFC team, and that 284 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: could be that could play a major part in it. 285 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: But I'm just trying to understand what the hooplaw is about. 286 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: If he gets into this next situation and he plays 287 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: at a high level, then you can have large conversations 288 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: about how well they did the Lafleur and company did 289 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: with developing him and helping him to find his feet 290 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: and his legs in the NFL. And now we have 291 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: a franchise guy that has developed somewhere else and had 292 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: the opportunity to benefit in a different a different franchise. 293 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: It happens. We just watched Sam Donald, which I don't 294 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: consider Sam Donald a franchise guy. I consider him to 295 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: be He's a good manager as a starter, and listen, 296 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: I don't say manager with the idea of lessening who 297 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: they are. I think more managers win Super Bowls than 298 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: game changers. But what I'm saying is is there are 299 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: franchise game managers and franchise game changers, and then there 300 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: are starting quarterbacks that are not franchise guys. There are 301 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: starting quarterbacks that are not game changers, and they manage. 302 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: I don't know what Malik Willis is today. I'm not 303 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: trying to come down hard on them. I'm just speaking reality. 304 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: That's why I'm curious to see what the structure of 305 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: the contract looks like because you know, and I mentioned 306 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: this earlier when Teddy Bridgewater signed a three year deal 307 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: with Carolina a few years back, and it was like, oh, 308 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 3: it gave Teddy Bridgewater a three year deal, and then 309 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 3: it turns out, well, they actually got out of it 310 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: after one year, that it was really a one year deal. 311 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 3: And so I wonder if Miami looks at this and says, 312 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: all right, there's some familiarity there with the GM and 313 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: the head coach of Nlik Willis, we bring him in, 314 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: let's give it a go. He gets more than six 315 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: starts that he's had in his career, and if it 316 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 3: doesn't work out, you know, we'll go back into the 317 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 3: draft next year and try and see if we can, 318 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 3: if we can find a quarterback there. But I think 319 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: that Arizona is tanking. I mean, for being honest, like 320 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 3: Arizona's tanking. They would like to be in the quarterback 321 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 3: mix next year, and Miami saw this as an opportunity 322 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 3: to reunite. And that's maybe they feel like they can 323 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 3: do special things with Malik Willis And it remains to 324 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 3: be seen. But I look at Arizona, I go, that's 325 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 3: just a tank job. They're trying to get in the 326 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: mix next year. I'll pose this question to both of you. 327 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 3: Would you be disappointed if Malik Willis did not produce? 328 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 3: And would there be any type of outrage if Malik 329 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 3: Willis didn't turn out to be a starter that turns 330 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: this Miami Dolphins team. 331 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 2: Into a competitive team. Depends on the structure of the contract, 332 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: Like if you're purely basing it off of what they 333 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: I mean, it's guaranteed they got to pay him into 334 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 2: forty millions. Yeah, but compared to the ninety nine they're 335 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: taking this year from two, I mean, the top ten 336 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: quarterbacks are making forty million in one year, right, they're 337 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: like in the forties at least for one year. He's 338 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: getting it over the duration his guarantees are over the 339 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: duration of time. Again, what about you, Would you be 340 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: disappointed if Malik Willis didn't have a very very productive year? 341 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 4: No, because I don't really have that high of expectation 342 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 4: for him that based on what we've seen. He starts like, 343 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 4: I just don't think. I just don't think you can. 344 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: And even if you do have a high ceiling for him, 345 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: why would you put yourself too far over your skis 346 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 2: in terms of excitement for the potential of what he 347 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 2: could be. I think this is like a wait and 348 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: see moment, I guess, is what I'm saying. It comes 349 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: across as I'm being a hateful person towards Malik Willis, 350 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: and I'm not. I'm just saying, don't act as though 351 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: this is, oh, we got him legal tampering. Yeah it's not. 352 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: Willis today like, no, you can't. And they were caring 353 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 2: to lose yourself and that that that. 354 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 3: And they were probably the only team that was going 355 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 3: to give him a deal like this, and because they 356 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 3: know him so well. I don't I don't think any 357 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 3: I don't know how many teams around the NFL looked 358 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 3: at Malik Wilson said, yeah, yeah, that's the one, Like 359 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: we got it because otherwise, do you guys remember Matt Schaub. Yeah, 360 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: he was a backup for a couple of years and 361 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: then he went to and he was fine. 362 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: He was a pro. 363 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan made him and he was a starter and 364 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 4: they were good. They made it past couple of times. 365 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 4: But you know what, like he never was a super 366 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 4: Bowl He was never going to win Super Bowl, right. 367 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 2: And I think you and you entertained it for a 368 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: moment in Houston, you entertained it, like can he get 369 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 2: him to ken Ken shop? Get him there? 370 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: Like also also if you want to do if you 371 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: want to do a Packers camp, remember Matt Flynn. Matt 372 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: Flynn got that deal with in Seattle. And then they 373 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 3: drafted Russell Wilson with a mid round or a third 374 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 3: round pick or something like that, and Wilson outplayed him, 375 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 3: and they just they said, all right, well, and we 376 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: know we commit all this money to them, but we'll 377 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 3: just give the opportunity to the better guy. And unless 378 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 3: they do that in the mid rounds and somebody surprises them. 379 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 3: Malik Wills is going to be your starter at least 380 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: for this year. 381 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: For good or for bed. I just think it's pretty 382 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: dangerous to get too excited over an unproven entity at 383 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: that position. I think that that's ultimately what it comes 384 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 2: down to. 385 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 3: Well, who knows, Maybe the Dolphins wi wont a playoff game. 386 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 3: It's been about twenty six years, so it's unbelievable. Do 387 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 3: it all right? It is The Herd here on Fox 388 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: Sports Radio. 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You got to get together, man, grow up. 418 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 3: Coming up a little over fifteen minutes from now, we 419 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: are we are going to have another edition of the 420 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 3: Herdline News with a great Greg two that'll be yours here. 421 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 3: As it is legal tampering time in the NFL, so 422 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: we've got more from that from around the league. One 423 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 3: of the other teams that was in the news earlier 424 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 3: in the NFL was the Kansas City Chiefs. The Chiefs 425 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 3: going out and signing Kenneth Walker to the contract earlier today. 426 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker last scene winning an MVP in the Super Bowl. 427 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 3: He now goes back. He goes to the Kansas City Chiefs. There, 428 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,239 Speaker 3: departs Seattle, ends up in Kansas City, provides him some 429 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 3: assistance from the run game standpoint was also announced earlier 430 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: the expectation as Travis Kelsey will be back with Kansas City. 431 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: There was a thought that maybe he could go somewhere 432 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 3: else around the league, but Kansas City made the most 433 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 3: out of it. 434 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just you know, like its brother, maybe maybe 435 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 2: just go do the New Heights podcast, you know, walking 436 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: to the Sunset with Taylor Swift. I mean, with all 437 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: the Swifties, you could still go in front of large 438 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: crowds and groups of people, like, You're not going to 439 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: miss the league at all, you know league, So yeah, 440 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: he is. I mean, you know you're going to miss 441 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: being a player in the league. You're gonna miss that part. 442 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 3: But it also it wasn't that long ago that there 443 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 3: was real thought that Andy Reid was going to be 444 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: gone and Travis Kelsey was going to be gone and all, 445 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 3: and I just I and I said this earlier. I 446 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 3: think Kelsey looked at it and said, I would like 447 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 3: to go out with Patrick Mahomes on the field and 448 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 3: not you know, catching passes from somebody else in a 449 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 3: really disappointing season. But I can't imagine this is more 450 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 3: than this next year. 451 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 2: At what point does your opinion not matter though to 452 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: your employment? Like at some point you got to say, 453 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 2: that's nice that you didn't get to go out on 454 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: the terms of catching the ball from Patrick Mahomes, But 455 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: how does that really work in terms of how we're 456 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 2: moving forward as a team. I mean, the team did 457 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: not have the type of success that was has become 458 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 2: the staple, you know, the calling card of this Kansas 459 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: City Chiefs team. And you mentioned Andy Reid, and we 460 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: mentioned Andy Reid several times earlier. Here's a question, how 461 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: many years do you think Andy Reid has left coaching? 462 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: And do we have any breaking news? 463 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 5: Do it? 464 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 2: Because we do know this is the legal tamer as 465 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: it will. 466 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: I would say, well, no, I would say that you 467 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: know when it comes to Andy Reid. Yet it's sixty 468 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: seven years old. It feels it feels like, oh I 469 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: thought you were a kid in that No, he really is. 470 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: It does feel like the end is near. And that's 471 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 3: why I say this dynasty run, the run that the 472 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs have been on. Yeah, it is probably over. 473 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 3: As j Huschman Zata set it himself like it's it's 474 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 3: a rap and there's nothing wrong with that. This is 475 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 3: how This is how normal dynasties go. Not everything is 476 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 3: the Patriots where you have that long break and then 477 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 3: you go back and you want another one. So it 478 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: does feel like, you know, the you know, this is 479 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: probably the Chiefs have probably peaked, but at least they're 480 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: making some moves to, you know, try and improve upon 481 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 3: what was a really disappointing season last year. And now 482 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 3: it is time for more breaking news from around the 483 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 3: NFL with the great great. 484 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: Two ye breaking news from Fox Sports. 485 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 4: All right, guys we would talk to We mentioned his 486 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 4: name earlier, but Mike Evans, the six time pro bowler, 487 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 4: is expected to sign a three year deal with the Niners. 488 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 4: Per Adam Schefter, That's uh, that's interesting. 489 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: I didn't think I can't. It's hard to imagine that 490 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: guy anywhere other than Tampa Bay. 491 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 4: But I mean you think he was closer to retirement 492 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 4: than yeah, think in three more years. 493 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: But potentially hmmm, I mean it's a great, great move 494 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: for Mike Evans. I mean, if there's going to be 495 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: someone who finds a way to get the most out 496 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: of you as as a player, it's going to be 497 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan in that group there. So, but they they 498 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: they so overachieved this year. I thought they were fools goal. Uh, 499 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: they kind of ended up being fools gold in the end. 500 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 2: I mean when they went up against Seattle, it didn't 501 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 2: looked like they were ready for that at all. But 502 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 2: man at his age and making this move, does how 503 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 2: much better? Does that make sense? 504 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 4: I mean I liked I liked the another veteran presence 505 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 4: with for them. 506 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 2: I think that's naked. Can he be adorable because he 507 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: was potentially turned into the main receiver. 508 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 4: On which seems the worst injury. Lucky and they do 509 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 4: and it's because of the waste. 510 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 3: Yeah they practice, Yeah, they practiced next to Truernobyl. 511 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, go fall apart. 512 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone everyone makes it seems like you go practice 513 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 3: with the Niners and your ear melts off. Twenty minutes later, 514 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 3: just all things bizarre. But and listen, you know we 515 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 3: were in San Francisco for the Super Bowl. Thank are 516 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 3: they practice up there? 517 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: This was. 518 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 3: A quote from from Mike Evans agent. This is from 519 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 3: Derek Gilmour, his agent quote. At this stage of his career, 520 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: Mike's goals remained the. 521 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: Same as they've always been. 522 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 3: To compete for another Super Bowl, to play in an 523 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 3: offensive system, to challenge his defenses, and to be in 524 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 3: an environment where he can continue to push himself and 525 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 3: contribute at the highest level. The Buccaneers made it clear 526 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: they would have loved for Mike to finish his career 527 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 3: in Tampa and potentially become just the fourth player in 528 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 3: franchise history to spend his entire career as a Buccaneer 529 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 3: and ultimately walk into Canton representing the organization. But Mike 530 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: Evans's decision to leave Tampa was never about money. The 531 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 3: Buccaneers were extremely aggressive in their pursuit and presented a 532 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,479 Speaker 3: very strong offer, demonstrating how much they value him and 533 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 3: everything he has meant to the franchise. In the end, 534 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 3: this decision simply came down to Mike wanting a new 535 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 3: challenge and a fresh opportunity while he still feels he 536 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 3: has a great deal left to give the game. Tampa 537 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 3: Bay will always be a special place for Mike Evans, 538 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 3: and his respecting gratitude for the organization and its fans 539 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 3: will never change that. From Derek Gilmore, the agent for 540 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 3: Mike Evans, who is great too, he just pointed out 541 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 3: is signing a deal with the forty nine ers. 542 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: Translation, I don't believe in Todd Bowles and what we 543 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: got going on here. I had to get up out 544 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: of here. Time to go. Let's just get right to 545 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 2: the chase. Yeah, money, y'all offer me a nice contract. 546 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: Something new had to happen. You hit it translation, knocked 547 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 2: out of the ballpark. You gotta go, gotta go. If 548 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to continue to play, I can continue to 549 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: play in this whatever this is. So that's that's that's 550 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 2: very interesting. That could be some that could come back 551 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: to be damning information. That's probably top three, top four 552 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: greatest Tampa Bay Buccaneers of all time. Yeah, he's like 553 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: and look definitely receiver, greatest receiver of all time for 554 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay. I don't even know if that's close. 555 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he go like he's always reportedly 556 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 3: had a great relationship with Baker Mayfield. 557 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 2: They've always you know, seemed to but yeah, that does 558 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 2: we did specifically say the coach you specifically, Yeah, that's 559 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: exactly what you don't believe in what this team is 560 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: trying to do, and you don't have the time to 561 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: be dealing with what they don't. 562 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 3: Know one hundred percent, because if you go on to 563 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 3: say this was never about money, the Bucks were aggressive 564 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: in pursuing us. So if they wanted you and it 565 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 3: wasn't about money, clearly you didn't want them. 566 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 2: And you go to a team that clearly has the knee. Obviously, 567 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: Ayuk was a big conversation this whole teas by what 568 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: happened to him. Oh right, exactly, we don't know. We're 569 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: still trying to figure it out, you know, and so 570 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: you go there. Obviously coaching is the reason why they 571 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: did so well this year. I'm sorry, I know players 572 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: playing coaches can't play a down and can't win a game, 573 00:29:54,920 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 2: but the coaching you can't undervalue how how tremendous the 574 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 2: coaching job was done in San Francisco this year and 575 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: prior to to that point, I think it's a great 576 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 2: situation for him, maybe he wants to go there. And and 577 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: you know, to to Todd Bowles is maybe defense. He's 578 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: a defensive minded coach. Cayle Shanahan is an offensive genius. 579 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: And to be at the in the twilight of your career, 580 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: if you have the opportunity to go play for a 581 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: coach like Cayle Shanahan in that system, and you have 582 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: the respect and reverence that that Mike Mike Evans brings 583 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: to the table, why not. Why not? 584 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 3: They've They've had a bunch of different coordinators there. I 585 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 3: believe Baker Mayfield's had a different offensive coordinator every season 586 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 3: in Tampa, which means Mike Evans too, is at a 587 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 3: different offensive coordinator every season that Baker Mayfield has been there. 588 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 3: And you know, Mike Evans is looking at this going 589 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 3: I just I'm sorry. I don't want to go through 590 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 3: this again, Like I don't. I don't want to have 591 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 3: to relearn a new system, whether it was Dave Canalis 592 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 3: or Liam Cohen or whoever they brought in. I just 593 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: don't want to do this again. And the Todd Bowles 594 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 3: stuff from last year when they decided to bring him back, 595 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 3: I think there were some people that were surprised by 596 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 3: it because they were disappointing, and you know, Bulls called 597 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 3: out the players after a game. He called him out 598 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 3: one time and said, you know, the players got to 599 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 3: do this. 600 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: They got to. 601 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,719 Speaker 3: Step up and and and do what they need to do. 602 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 3: If this can't just be about the coaches, and then 603 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 3: he made a bunch of changes to his coaching staff 604 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 3: to be to come back this year. This feels like 605 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 3: if this next year is underwhelming for Tampa again, that's 606 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 3: a teardown rebuild. Like it feels like that one is 607 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 3: a teardown rebuild, and now you're gonna have to do 608 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 3: this upcoming season without ye. 609 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 4: Chefter just tweeted it wasn't his decisional League was not 610 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 4: about the money. The Bucks were very aggressive and trying 611 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 4: to keep the strong offer. It came down to a 612 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 4: desire for a new challenge as he enters the last 613 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 4: years of his career. Yeah, he wants to win another 614 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 4: Super Bowl and the Niners are close to that than 615 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 4: the Bucks are. 616 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: In his mind, so you think, so I gotta go. 617 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 2: That's what I said. I gotta go. It's not about 618 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 2: the money. 619 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 5: Man. 620 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: They pursued me. They were aggressive. Mike was at the 621 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: front door with all his bed like you need to 622 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: stay Like, yeah, I'm gonna get on out here, man, 623 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get on my way. I just don't I'm 624 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 2: gonna go practice next to a nuclear reactor. I don't 625 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: know that. I'm totally convinced that San Fran is closer 626 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 2: to a Super Bowl than interesting than Tampa Bay. In fact, 627 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: I would think that the easier, the easier journey towards 628 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: getting to the playoffs and positioning yourself would be Tampa Bay. 629 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 4: You do know what Tampa Bay's record was last year, right? 630 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: I do? 631 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 5: I do? 632 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 4: They finished behind the Panthers. 633 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 2: I understand. But if I'm looking at these teams, do 634 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 2: you want to see the Rams next year? I think 635 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: the Rams are probably in the NFC The best team 636 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: outside of Seattle. 637 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 638 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 2: Whoever won the NFC title game was winning the Super Bowl. 639 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 2: Yeah so, and listen, I get it, San Fran did 640 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 2: an excellent job of keeping pace, But I'm not looking 641 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: at at them as being being in competition to even 642 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 2: get out of the the NFC West. 643 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 3: And look, Kittle's coming back off an injury. Who knows 644 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 3: how that's gonna look. I mean, you know, not everybody's 645 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 3: Jason Tatum where they can come off in Achilles and 646 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 3: just you know, have to have the weekend he had 647 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 3: Sons the Niners. 648 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 2: The Niners overcame, be clear, they overcame and won against 649 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: all odds this year. I give them all the respect 650 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: and all the credit for being able to do such 651 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,719 Speaker 2: a bang up job of winning and winning and continuing 652 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 2: to win games under the circumstances of which they did. 653 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 2: But am I a buyer in San fran being a 654 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 2: much better team than next year under the current roster. 655 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 2: I'm not. Does Mike Evans take them to a next 656 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 2: level of being that team that could actually win the 657 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 2: NFC West, I don't think so. I think it's a Seattle. 658 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 2: I think it is a Seattle and a Rams a 659 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 2: RAMS division right now. And obviously Arizona is doing whatever 660 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: they're doing. If they're tanking, they're tanking. So then you 661 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 2: have the San Francisco forty nine ers, who will fight. 662 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: I think they will fight diligently. I think they will 663 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: do an excellent job of trying to keep pace. But 664 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 2: I just do not buy the fact that this is 665 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 2: a team that's hitting towards the Super Bowl. You know how, 666 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 2: bad Tampa is that he chose to go there and 667 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 2: they ain't that much better than Tampa. Mike Evans Like, 668 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 2: Mike Evans is like what. 669 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 3: Were you guys saying about the state taxes in California? 670 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go there. I'll take my chances there. There's 671 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 2: also that. 672 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio. 673 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 3: And by the way, you can listen to us on 674 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio app. You can stream us wherever you happen 675 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 3: to be. 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Up next, we've got 682 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 3: another edition of the herdline news to close up shop 683 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 3: here on this busy tampering window Monday in the NFL, 684 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 3: and it's yours here on FSR. 685 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays 686 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 2: and neon Easter nin am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 687 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 688 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 3: It's a Herd on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas 689 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 3: Knox in for Colin. By the way, we'll be back 690 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 3: on the air in our normal time slot. Quick turnaround 691 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 3: for us tomorrow morning on Two Pros and a Cup 692 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 3: of Joe. 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Hi Greg, Well, guys, 712 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 2: it's been an exciting day. That's been pretty good. 713 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 4: This is the this is the show. I'll tell you 714 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 4: what this shift is wild. This is the legal tampering period. Sorry, 715 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 4: right at nine o'clock at showtime. And it's been been 716 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 4: crazy ever since. We were talking about the Mike Evans deal. 717 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 2: Three years. 718 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 4: The details are out, three year deal, up to sixty 719 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 4: million dollars. No word yet on the guaranteed money. 720 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 2: But maybe it doesn't matter. Maybe it does not about 721 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 2: the money, you know, it's not right, It's about the 722 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 2: new opportunity. Yeah, So there you go. I'm all right 723 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 2: by getting away from Todd Bowles. So what it's about, 724 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what he's saying it, I mean, but 725 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 2: he's getting away from something. If it's not about the money, 726 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 2: after you, you're the greatest football player, one of them 727 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 2: in the history of the friends. I love Tampa. I 728 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 2: love it here. 729 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 5: Uh. 730 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 2: They were aggressive. They wanted me back. Great weather, no 731 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,479 Speaker 2: state taxes, gotta got to go. 732 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 4: Say what it is, all right, So there was a 733 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 4: so this kind of got buried. Guys from Friday. We 734 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 4: were going to talk about this and everything started happening, 735 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 4: but Max Crosby traded to the Yeah late Friday night, 736 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 4: two first round picks. According to Jeremy Fowler, there was 737 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 4: a in his story from over the weekend, there was 738 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 4: an unnamed source that's a quote the Raiders weren't going 739 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 4: to trade Crosby to the Patriots because no way Tom 740 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 4: was sending Max to Mike Rabel, his former Patriots team. 741 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 2: I mean, that's shady if that's true. Really, why I 742 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 2: don't blame him? I mean, well, I set them to 743 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: an AFC team, So if you're going to send them 744 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 2: in the same in the same conference, what does it matter? 745 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 2: What doesn't matter? I mean, you know you're going hate 746 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 2: on like you I just don't At some point, is it, 747 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 2: how petty is it? Like all of y'all had great 748 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 2: success as Patriots? Like how petty is that? Like Tom Brady? 749 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 2: You're Tom Brady. You won. That's one player, and that 750 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 2: the guy that you're talking about, which is your former teammate, 751 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 2: Like where's the hate? 752 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he told you didn't have a 753 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 3: dog in the fight, and I'm not going to put 754 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 3: one in. 755 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: Its true, I don't have a dog in this fight. 756 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 2: I just don't think I'm one too. 757 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 4: I don't think they look at it dog to I 758 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 4: don't think he would look at the Ravens anywhere near 759 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 4: like the Patriots do. 760 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 2: It's just it's it's the same conference, right, Why would 761 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 2: you not. I don't want to send a player in 762 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 2: the conference. 763 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 3: I wonder if there's something going on with him and 764 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 3: in New England's relationship. Well, I just I wonder, you know, 765 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 3: when he says, I, you know, don't put a dog 766 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,959 Speaker 3: in the fight, Jeremy Fowler from. 767 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 2: And that's that's that's a that's a credible source, that story. 768 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 4: Otherwise, Yeah, I'm just kidding. 769 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 2: Yeah right, I'm just trying to understand. If you're going 770 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 2: to trade the guy and get them out of there 771 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 2: to get draft capital, then do it. I don't care 772 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 2: if it. 773 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 3: I don't care if it's division, I don't care if 774 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 3: it's if if you're the Giants, trade him to the 775 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 3: Jets and you share the same building, or the Chargers 776 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 3: and the Rams, if you I would trade my player 777 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 3: to whatever was going to get me the best offer, 778 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 3: if that was the best offer. 779 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 2: The Giants gave Saquan away to the Eagles, the Eagles 780 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 2: going win the Super Bowl the next year. Did they 781 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 2: win next year? Yeah, they did the next year. That's 782 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 2: not just I mean, you can't. This just creates a 783 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 2: different level of the conversation of shade. If that's if 784 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 2: that is true that the Patriots won, if Max Crosby 785 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 2: wanted to be in and Tom Brady would have no 786 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,439 Speaker 2: parts of that, that's shady, man. Come on, what else 787 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 2: we got to We got take quickly US Mexico. 788 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 4: WBC tonight, Paul on the Mound. 789 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 2: I got you. There's WC in my house every night. 790 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 2: You don't need Let's go. It's been exciting. I love it. 791 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 3: It would be real torn h You know the the 792 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 3: in laws are Mexican. 793 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 2: I'm I'm an American, I'm pale and four who you're for? 794 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 2: No a blah 795 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 5: M hmm.