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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we are straight out the

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Speaker 1: womb and into the Chris Westleying podcast studio here with

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Speaker 1: Patrick Claybonn and really lucky to be joined by him

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Speaker 1: today and Patrick Darty wrote a world coming up a

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Speaker 1: little later to talk about post hype sleepers from the

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Speaker 1: world of fantasy. And we'll do some dumb stuff at

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Speaker 1: the end, but yeah, Jim Harbaugh getting us off to

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Speaker 1: the right start this week.

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Speaker 2: Famously are again now co worker ochbar Bosha Bama says

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Speaker 2: he remembers being born, so he and coach Harball have

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Speaker 2: that in common.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's just listen to this sound. Now, this was

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Speaker 1: going to be part of dumb stuff later, but let's listen.

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Speaker 3: Just the way it feels. I mean, it feels like

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Speaker 3: New Year's Day, you know, it feels like being born,

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Speaker 3: feels like coming out of the womb. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: like you're in there, it's comfortable and it's safe and

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Speaker 3: and now you're out.

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Speaker 4: You're born.

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Speaker 3: The lights are on, you know, it's bright, chaos. People

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Speaker 3: look people looking at you, people people talking at you,

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Speaker 3: and uh, it just feels good to have it happen.

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Speaker 1: There is like a medical condition I've done I've done this,

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Speaker 1: you know, research before people that can really remember things

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Speaker 1: to an incredible degree. Now there's also people that say

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Speaker 1: they remember coming out of the womb. There is no

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Speaker 1: scientific proof or way to disprove really that Akbar is wrong.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm look, if somebody says that they remember that experience, like,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to remember it because, as Coach outlines, there,

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Speaker 2: the lights are bright. You've never seen light before. Yeah, people,

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Speaker 2: you've never seen people before. You don't you don't understand anything.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be chaotic. I don't want to remember,

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Speaker 2: but you know, shout out to anybody that does a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think the condition or whatever you call is highly

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Speaker 1: super autobiographical memory. H Sam, one of just sixty people.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's about sixty people in the world with

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Speaker 1: this that actually can't remember things like and be right

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Speaker 1: about it, but not not then. And yeah, that would

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Speaker 1: be a tough that'd be a tough memory. Here, here's

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Speaker 1: what you got slime all you know, I got stuff

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Speaker 1: all over you. Not a medical term there, just caused

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Speaker 1: a lot of pain for someone that you love. I

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Speaker 1: found as a new dad. It was a tricky experience.

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Speaker 1: People say that's like the best moment of your life.

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Speaker 1: I did not feel that because it was it was

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Speaker 1: a tough situation. The person I have, you know, loved

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Speaker 1: very happy that that part was over and happy to

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Speaker 1: see my daughter Ellis, but I would not It took

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Speaker 1: a little while for it to set in and to

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Speaker 1: get over the fact that this person I've known for

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Speaker 1: a long time just went through something extremely traumatic.

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Speaker 2: And now imagine that from Ellison's standpoint, right right, that's

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Speaker 2: that's a whole lot.

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Speaker 1: So right, they had to like take her over to

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Speaker 1: the and you know, Nick, you the intensive carry unit

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Speaker 5: They's just a lot going on.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that's what training camp is like, Perbro.

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Speaker 1: And you know the best part is if you watch

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Speaker 1: the clip on YouTube, we are there, like and subscribe

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Speaker 1: us there. He actually motions what it would be like

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Speaker 1: coming out of that womb. Jim Harbor. I love having

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbor in the NFL. And yeah, they're down in Elsa.

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Speaker 1: I hope to get there at some point during training camp.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, they were one of the last teams to report.

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Speaker 1: Now every single team is at training camp, even the

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Speaker 1: teams that had to wait one extra day because they're

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Speaker 1: starting on Monday night football. Everyone is there, virtually, everyone

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Speaker 1: news before we get to the dumb stuff. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's start in San Francisco. One surprise, one mini surprise,

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Speaker 1: but not really today. Let's start with the obvious news,

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Speaker 1: which is Brandon Ayuk is holding in he is not practicing.

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Speaker 1: He was seen at the side of practice briefly on

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Speaker 1: general manager John Lynch. I don't know if they decide

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Speaker 1: I've seen this in the past, that they decide it's

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Speaker 1: almost a distraction for him to be standing out there.

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Speaker 1: He might as well stay inside. He's in the meeting rooms,

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Speaker 1: I assume, and lifting weights and all that, but maybe

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Speaker 5: That's newsworthy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely newsworthy. And you know the results, like

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Speaker 2: we've seen it time and time again, when Trent Williams

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Speaker 2: what makes them so dominant. And it makes perfect sense

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Speaker 2: to me at this point in his career still having

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Speaker 2: I would like to be compensated properly.

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Speaker 1: So he has three more years left on his deal,

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Speaker 1: so that's tricky. They maybe did not see this coming,

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Speaker 1: but he's been so good, the best tackle in the league,

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Speaker 1: and he's willing to take the fines. I did a

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Speaker 1: Trent Williams is at a point in his career where

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Speaker 1: he will be fined. It's a mandatory. They can't waive

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars a day. That's a lot of money. But

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Speaker 1: he will make a lot of money when he gets

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Speaker 1: this contract adjusted. He is on the books for a

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Speaker 1: actual money he's making is much lower. It's under twenty

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Speaker 1: sees the market out there. And I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: just a disease of you have all these great players

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sure some folks might look at it

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Speaker 2: and look at the contract situate like Debo, the bosas right,

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Speaker 2: and so it's like, oh, well the forty nine ers

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Speaker 2: just you know, guys are grabbing more. This is just

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Speaker 2: And you know, fingers crossed, maybe for Ayu that'll take place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he had signed Trent Williams's signed a six year

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Speaker 5: Ceedee Lamb.

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Speaker 1: By the way his fines, he can be fined by

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Speaker 1: So that is a situation where he's almost certainly not

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Speaker 1: I do think that we'll get done. In other contract news,

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Speaker 1: Tua toungue of Iiloa is not doing everything at Dolphins camp.

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Speaker 1: He's there, He's doing some drills, not all drills. I'm

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Speaker 1: not big into the D word distraction, but maybe the

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Speaker 5: It's just a little weird, especially in and near the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: It's unfair, but the quarterback is just different.

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Speaker 2: And like coach noted that, their relationship right, it's it's standard,

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Speaker 2: it's the same. Nothing's gonna strain that. My question is

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Speaker 2: the price is not going to go down, right.

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Speaker 1: Because I don't think they've got to pay him. This

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Speaker 1: to swallow some pride or take a little less money.

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Speaker 1: I think they're trying to get him at a lower,

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Speaker 1: lower amount. Well, then it puts me be wrong.

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Speaker 2: Put him a situation where okay, so Toua signs for

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Speaker 2: something very short term, right, okay, and then he outperforms that.

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Speaker 2: Now you've got the same exact problem, but it's even worse. Right,

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Speaker 2: So if you gotta you would see it would seem

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Speaker 2: if you dropped them out there to be the starting quarterback,

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Speaker 2: considering the seasons that he has had, you're saying he

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Speaker 4: So it's just gonna cost them money, right, Like.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, But I guess I'm looking at this as a

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Speaker 1: He probably is, but they I think they're maybe checking

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, of course got his money. He got one

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Speaker 1: of those short term contracts. I'm sure they'd give him

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones' contract like two years, forty million dollars a year,

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Speaker 1: is that he is healthy enough to practice fully at camp.

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Speaker 1: He's taking all the first team reps at camp. I

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Speaker 1: found that a little noteworthy because our friend Daniel Jeremiah

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Speaker 1: put it out there over the summer on his podcast

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Speaker 1: Moved the Sticks, which I believe is on a high eight.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, it is still happening. I need to

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Speaker 1: not throw out that bad information. It's great him and

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Speaker 1: Bucky and Tua. I mean, Daniel Jones will be backed

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for now, it's it's dimes all the way I could.

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Speaker 4: I could see a scenario if Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 2: Isn't right one hundred percent back because athleticism is such

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Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito's still out there.

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Speaker 1: I have noticed that Tommy DeVito never gets mentioned on

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks when over there talking about quarterback. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Tyrod back. That didn't happen. They made sure to get

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, it was interesting on the latest Hard Knocks,

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Speaker 1: you know, had a conversation with Joe Shane. They didn't

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Speaker 1: show it, but Shane talked about it of you know,

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Speaker 1: and they did try to trade up for Dadon Daniels.

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Speaker 1: they told Janel Jones ahead of time and then they said, look,

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Speaker 1: Jamison Williams puked at training camp today and then return

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm not a huge one, but I in college. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Know, I that's the I mean, you.

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Speaker 1: Always felt better I did. I also was a strawberry

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Speaker 1: The worst experience I ever had. Why are we talking

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Speaker 1: just the carne asada on top of the cheesy nachos.

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Speaker 1: And I got to the front after waiting a wow,

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Speaker 1: I was just turned right around.

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Speaker 5: I was like, I can't get that. There's no way

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Speaker 5: that's happening.

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Speaker 1: Jamison Williams, though confirmed dog put them up your fantasy

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Speaker 1: boards now. And speaking of fantasy, let's talk to Rota.

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Speaker 5: Pat. You're not done with me today. Patrick.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna come back after I talked to Pat Dherty

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna wrap up the show with some dumb stuff.

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Speaker 1: But before that, Yeah, I'm excited about this fantasy season.

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Speaker 1: I'm diving more into it. Some post type sleepers, some

445
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Speaker 1: guys not past their prime but maybe not getting as

446
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Speaker 1: much sign as they used to.

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Speaker 4: After this.

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Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily, one of my favorite fantasy minds

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Speaker 1: in the game. We're not waiting until late August this

450
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Speaker 1: year to talk fantasy. We're doing it in July. We're

451
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Speaker 1: gonna sprinkle in fantasy segments each week as you get

452
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Speaker 1: ready for your draft. And no other man I'd rather

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Speaker 1: start with than Pat Dherty, who I've tried to take

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Speaker 1: credit for hiring over at roadal World multiple times. And

455
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Speaker 1: then Evan Silver reminds me he's like I hired him, man,

456
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Speaker 1: I'm the one that hired Pat. I was like, I

457
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Speaker 1: supported him. I think his tweets are funny. Pat Dready,

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Speaker 1: what's up?

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Speaker 7: Evan hired me, You supported me.

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Speaker 8: You hired me in spirit though, because no one would

461
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Speaker 8: have been allowed to be hired without your approval.

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Speaker 5: There you go.

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Speaker 7: You still had you both hired me. This might be

464
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Speaker 7: early for you in fantasy. You're very late, though.

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Speaker 8: We've been talking about it since really, probably before the

466
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Speaker 8: championship game weekends, like we don't even wait for the

467
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Speaker 8: Super Bowl to be over, but there's only four teams left.

468
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Speaker 8: Then you kind of start talking out the following year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the game, the game has changed.

470
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Speaker 1: Not to do it back when I was doing it,

471
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Speaker 1: but yeah, this was the ramp up period.

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Speaker 5: Certainly we paid attention.

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Speaker 1: We did news at OT's, but there was just not

474
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Speaker 1: the competitive social media tweeting of like the entire industry

475
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Speaker 1: already doing ADP and best ball in like April. Everything

476
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Speaker 1: is different. That's why I need someone like you to

477
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Speaker 1: sort it out. And so we're gonna do an exercise.

478
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Speaker 1: Actually we used to do back at rohatal World, which

479
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Speaker 1: I think is very useful, which are called post type

480
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Speaker 1: all Stars and post type all Stars to define it

481
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Speaker 1: for the listener. They at one point were built up

482
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Speaker 1: their ADP. Their average draft position was probably pretty high.

483
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Speaker 1: It didn't work out for whatever reason, and now it's

484
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Speaker 1: lower and it's part of the two things I think

485
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Speaker 1: are the most important fantasy football, if you don't want

486
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Speaker 1: to over complicate it. It's like, number one, take good

487
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Speaker 1: players like that are talented and great at football, like

488
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Speaker 1: that's very important. And then number two, playing the game

489
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Speaker 1: is just buy low and sell high, Like, don't take

490
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Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey in the one season of his career where

491
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Speaker 1: he's in the first round. Take them after an off year,

492
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Speaker 1: and hopefully we're gonna go through all these positions and

493
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Speaker 1: get a lot of guys out there. But these are

494
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Speaker 1: the types of guys I would be targeting in draft

495
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Speaker 1: without even necessarily being huge fans of them, just because

496
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Speaker 1: their their value is low and it's lower than it

497
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Speaker 1: was in the past, even if they're still in a

498
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Speaker 1: good situation. So I'm going to start out with wide receivers.

499
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Speaker 1: I think that's where I had the most people. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to go T Higgins as my first one, and

501
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Speaker 1: he's a lot of times this is going to be

502
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Speaker 1: like a young guy who actually hasn't done that much,

503
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Speaker 1: and T Higgins actually has done a lot. But I

504
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Speaker 1: just couldn't help noticing. I looked at Fantasy Pro's average

505
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Speaker 1: RAPT position this year, last year, PPR. He was the

506
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Speaker 1: fourteenth wide receiver last year. He's the thirtieth wide receiver

507
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Speaker 1: this year. There's literally no difference in his situation other

508
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Speaker 1: than he had a bad year last year and couldn't

509
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Speaker 1: quite stay healthy. But he's the same guy, the same opportunity,

510
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Speaker 1: and he's getting taken four rounds later and we've already

511
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Speaker 1: seen him be great, so to me, he is kind

512
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Speaker 1: of a perfect post type allster.

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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, there's no difference in his situation except for

514
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Speaker 8: Tyler Boyd is gone and there's right target competition and

515
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Speaker 8: Joe Mixon has gone, who is one of those highly

516
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Speaker 8: targeted running backs in the entire NFL. And really the

517
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Speaker 8: only thing that is different with T Higgins's situation is

518
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Speaker 8: that he was always slightly overdrafted. He's always taken like

519
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Speaker 8: a wide receiver eleven or twelve before, and he's the

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Speaker 8: classic guy where he didn't quite return adp quote unquote

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Speaker 8: a few years in a row. So instead of just

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Speaker 8: like put him where he really should be, like in

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Speaker 8: the probably the wide receiver fifteen or sixteen range, everyone

524
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Speaker 8: is now over corrects, of course, and he's the wide

525
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Speaker 8: receiver twenty nine or thirty.

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Speaker 7: So I totally.

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Speaker 8: The only thing was different, like positives for him, it's

528
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Speaker 8: the classic contract year narrative, and they.

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Speaker 7: Really need him. It's not a super deep scope.

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Speaker 8: It's very top heavy, some superstars to the top, but

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Speaker 8: it's not like the deepest skill core or anything like that.

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Speaker 8: So they really need him. And yeah, he was someone

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Speaker 8: I almost put on my list. I did not, so

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Speaker 8: I'm glad.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm glad. I'm glad you didn't. And yet I

536
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Speaker 1: think this is sometimes it's good. You guys have been

537
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Speaker 1: in the Fantasy Mines all season, all off season, digging

538
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Speaker 1: that coal or whatever it is that you do, and

539
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Speaker 1: I had I hadn't looked at average apposition until yesterday.

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Speaker 1: And then sometimes these names just like stand out as

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Speaker 1: like common sense.

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Speaker 5: Why is that dude so low? You give me one

543
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Speaker 5: that you like?

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Speaker 8: It's not the coal mines where sand mines by their silica.

545
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Speaker 8: Is that what it's called. Yeah, we did nothing as

546
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Speaker 8: glamorous as coal in the Fantasy Mines, but this first

547
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Speaker 8: one could be stretching the definition a bit. I'm going

548
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Speaker 8: to go with George Pickens, who is not like he's

549
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Speaker 8: like under hyped, but kind of like t Higgins, he

550
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Speaker 8: was over hyped the past two years a little bit,

551
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Speaker 8: maybe still only barely two really strong seasons to begin

552
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Speaker 8: his NFL career.

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Speaker 7: But it's people.

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Speaker 8: They don't want to touch the Steelers offense because Russell

555
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 8: Wilson is toxic, Arthur Smith is maybe the most toxic

556
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Speaker 8: fantasy figure in the.

557
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Speaker 7: History of the game, and people his huge finish last year.

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Speaker 8: So the best stretch of George Pickens's career came when

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Speaker 8: people kind of weren't paying attention to him, they'd already

560
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Speaker 8: kind of written him off, and they switched to Mason

561
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Speaker 8: Rudolph of all people sparks like the best three game

562
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Speaker 8: stretch of his career, Like even marginally improved quarterback play

563
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Speaker 8: really got George Pickens exploding down the stretch. There's this

564
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Speaker 8: zero target competition. He seems like a good fit with,

565
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Speaker 8: like Russell Wilson's moon balls to me, unless unless Russ

566
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Speaker 8: is totally done, which is no.

567
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Speaker 1: You know, the one thing Ruskin absolutely still do at

568
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Speaker 1: an elite level is throw a sexy deep ball. That's

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Speaker 1: what our original producer TD used to say in the

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Speaker 1: back in the day, Like he throws a sexy depot.

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Speaker 1: If he's protected, he can still do that. I don't

572
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Speaker 1: know if he can do that much else justin fields

573
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Speaker 1: can throw a nice deep ball too. Pickens is wide

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Speaker 1: receiver twenty seven, and their wide receiver room is a

575
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: borderline disaster.

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Speaker 5: It's all off season, like.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the Steelers. They're going to add a big

578
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: name before the season, Like who is trading their receiver

579
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Speaker 1: to the Steelers?

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Speaker 5: It's all Pickings. I love that. I'm gonna go, man,

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Speaker 5: I have.

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Speaker 8: Brandon Ayuk would retire if he were traded to the Steelers,

583
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 8: by the way, so if they actually got the big name,

584
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Speaker 8: he would just retire.

585
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Speaker 5: I don't know, man.

586
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Speaker 1: He's been putting out like instagrams where he put up

587
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: the Washington you know, play calls and stuff like he had.

588
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: He was like looking at their coaches film from their

589
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: internal that was a problem. So he was he was

590
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: down with the Commanders, but he also was down with

591
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Speaker 1: the Steelers because he mentioned that. That means his agent

592
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: was putting a burd in his ears, like these are

593
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Speaker 1: the teams that will pay you that money, but I

594
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Speaker 1: don't think they're going to give up the first round pick.

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Speaker 8: He is posting cryptic trade demands so often that I

596
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 8: don't even have Instagram anymore, and they still just show

597
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 8: up on my phone every morning. Brandon, I U cryptic

598
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 8: trade requests from Instagram stories.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna go with Stefan Diggs. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: be a little spicy here again. I just looked at

601
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Speaker 1: wide receivers who fell in ADP from this year to

602
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Speaker 1: last year, and he was fourth last year. He's twenty

603
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Speaker 1: third this year. Everyone's going to be worried about the

604
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: target share there.

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Speaker 5: I don't care. He's good. He was still getting open.

606
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Speaker 1: It's the classic too, first year in Dallas or Philadelphia,

607
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Speaker 1: honeymoon year, and twenty third to me is too low

608
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Speaker 1: for a guy that talented. I don't think it'll be

609
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Speaker 1: top ten necessarily again, but I'm I think people over

610
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: worry about the fact that there's other good receivers there.

611
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: He's still going to get plenty.

612
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Speaker 8: Yeah, you can nitpicked with all three of the lead

613
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Speaker 8: Texans receivers, but you should do with the least, probably

614
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Speaker 8: with the superstar like you said, and it is.

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Speaker 1: I love Nico Collins, but he's wide receiver eleven into me.

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Speaker 1: They're about the same in terms of fantasy value, and Nico.

617
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Speaker 8: Collins do that just seems like buying at his absolute peak,

618
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 8: a pretty rare third year breakout.

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Speaker 7: He's clearly very good.

620
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Speaker 8: The Texans front office agrees they've paid him seventy two

621
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 8: million dollars, but you'll get kind of a one year

622
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 8: wonder so far in Nico Collins. Tank Dell we love,

623
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 8: but I really dislike when guys as a rookie kind

624
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 8: of live up to their negative pre draft billing. So

625
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 8: Tank Dell lived up to his positive pre pre draft billing.

626
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Speaker 8: Explosive play. Guy can make play us all over the field,

627
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 8: you know, but he's undersized and small. You could get

628
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 8: hurt and then to stuffer like a really serious orthopedic injury.

629
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Speaker 8: Even though it's very questionable usage, I think is still

630
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Speaker 8: a concern for Tank Dell. Steph Diggs is just like,

631
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Speaker 8: was this a protest season or was this decline? And

632
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 8: I am more inclined to believe it was a protest season.

633
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Speaker 8: And for whatever reason, he no longer liked playing with

634
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Speaker 8: the second best quarterback on the planet.

635
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Speaker 5: And you can just see it.

636
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Speaker 1: I've heard the reports out of Texans camp, but Paul Gallant,

637
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: who's on the radio there was like, I've never seen

638
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: anyone practice harder than steff On Diggs. And it's like

639
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: it's just like his press conferences are just he loves

640
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: the world. He's talking positively about Josh Allen. It's just

641
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: it's just all there. He's playing for a contract, and

642
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: I will not dan for any Nico Collins slander. I

643
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: love Nico Collins, so I will not call him a

644
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: one year wonder. But it doesn't matter to me. That

645
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: doesn't take away from Diggs. And they know there is

646
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: no world where he is gonna be happy being a

647
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: second receiver, and there's no world where his talent would

648
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: would make him one.

649
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 5: Give me another wide receiver, Pat.

650
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Speaker 8: What if he is the second receiver by the way,

651
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 8: and then just immediately protests but uh, the second one.

652
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Speaker 8: I don't know if this one counts you. I think

653
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 8: it does count. Christian Watson, Yes, that actually.

654
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,239
Speaker 1: Is a perfect way. I don't believe in it. I

655
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: looked at him, but he is a tailor made post

656
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: type all star. I'm just not with it because I

657
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: think that Dantavian Wicks is better.

658
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 5: I shot you down before you even made your point.

659
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 6: You did.

660
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 7: There's yeah, there's a lot.

661
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 8: It's this is kind of like a total Battle Royale

662
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 8: receiver corps where there is like a genuine like hand

663
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 8: to hand combat for the targets. But Christian Watson, he's

664
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 8: never not been productive when he plays the promise he

665
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 8: just doesn't play very often. But he quite literally went

666
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 8: to the lab to get his hamstring issues figured out.

667
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 8: Like we're big into the lab narrative here at Rotal World,

668
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 8: where he went and was studied like like a science

669
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 8: experiment and they figured out like the strength and balance

670
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 8: that was making him suffer hamstring injuries every other week.

671
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 8: And even with the Battle Royale an uncertain target situation,

672
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 8: it just seems like there's you talked about the two

673
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 8: main tenants in fantasy. Are they good? Are they of value?

674
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 8: It just seems like there's too much value to be had. Okay,

675
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 8: the guy with his track record is the wide receiver

676
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 8: forty one. So I do love Christian Watson as a

677
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 8: post type guy.

678
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 5: Okay, wide receiver forty one. It's fine. My issue is

679
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 5: just and I don't think he Dantavian Wicks does not

680
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 5: fit this exercise.

681
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: He's just a straight sleeper or whatever you want to

682
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: call him. What I see is he's wide receiver fifty eight.

683
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: And he would be I picked to be their leader

684
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: in wide receiver yardage. And I like Jayden Reid and

685
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: Dobbs enough that I think Watson's got a specific skill set.

686
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: He might be a good best ball guy, you know,

687
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: best ball's not my jam, but he'll have like four

688
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: big time games. And otherwise he's just a deep guy,

689
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: one guy. And again I don't know if he's I'm

690
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: going to give you actually a bunch of names because

691
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: I want to get through the receivers. I want you

692
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: to pick who you want to talk about. But I

693
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: think these all could make sense. Terry McLaurin, I've been

694
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: wrong about year after year, but he's so talented to

695
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: be the thirty first if Fantasy wide receiver that I

696
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: just don't care about the situation. Jerry Judy, I don't

697
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: know if I'd actually want to do it, but he's

698
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: fifty ninth right now, So that's just a flyer, a

699
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: post hype flyer. The what I believe the most. Cooper

700
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: Cup doesn't work for me. I thought he would go

701
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: be way lower when I looked at this list and

702
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: he's still wide receiver eighteen. I was like, no man,

703
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: the way he looked last year. Sorry, if he was

704
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: in the twenties or thirties, maybe Deonday Johnson is the

705
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: guy along with McLaurin here is probably my favorite why

706
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: receiver forty one, the only guy on that team gets open,

707
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna be better just because you can't be worse.

708
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: So to me, he has a nice little post type

709
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: all star. But pick pick which one out of those

710
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: you like the best. McLaurin, Deontay Johnson, or Judy Well,

711
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: Judy was the classic.

712
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 8: He was the last guy threw on my list but

713
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 8: didn't put any notes for just because he's such an

714
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 8: obvious post type guy. But no one really wants to

715
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 8: make the case for him, So I'm just not gonna

716
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 8: make the case for him.

717
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 7: And it is Deontay Johnson.

718
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 8: I mean, like fantasy, we focus so much on like

719
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 8: workload and who was getting touches, and he got one

720
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 8: hundred and forty targets three straight years for he had

721
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 8: his protest season last year. Everything about the Panthers offense

722
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 8: this year is about salvaging Bryce Young's career, getting him

723
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 8: lay up looks. There's really no better like lay up

724
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 8: receiver in the entire NFL than Deontay Johnson, Like you said,

725
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 8: his ADP is just absolutely cratered. He's been beyond like.

726
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: It makes no sense, Like we have seen how good

727
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: he is, We've seen him produce. People are scared because

728
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: he's on the Panthers, but brace Sung had like a

729
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: one hundred quarterback rating.

730
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 5: Patrick Claybud mentioned this earlier.

731
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: You know when he's thrown at Adam Thelen the only

732
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: decent received a team, And to me, Deante Johnson is

733
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: just a younger, better version of Adam Thelen, Like you're

734
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: not going to get crazy explosive plays, but he's very

735
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: good with with body cat like catching in traffic and

736
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: he's gonna get open.

737
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 8: I've been drafting him almost every team this year, and

738
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 8: Judy was on my list. The other guys on my

739
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 8: list with two other pretty obvious ones, well you could

740
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 8: argue how obvious there are.

741
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 7: One was Jamison Williams.

742
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 8: I love how Dan Campbell basically Dan Campbell begins every

743
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 8: press conference with like a Jamison Williams hype session. Right now,

744
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 8: I feel like called him a man on a mission.

745
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 8: I just he just will not quit talking about Jamison Williams,

746
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 8: who had probably the best game of his career. In

747
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 8: the biggest game of his career, in the NFC Championship Game,

748
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 8: where he made some game changing plays. He's finally healthy.

749
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 8: He maybe seems like he's finally with the program. Before

750
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 8: the I promised you last week I would bring up

751
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 8: a gross one. Okay, yes, and it's Quinton Johnston. Oh

752
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 8: does he count because he might not even count.

753
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 5: That counts. You gotta stand for it.

754
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 7: But he might not count because he was never hyped

755
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 7: to beginning.

756
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: No, no, no, he was at least enough that people

757
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: were drafting him, and before before he had a bad camp,

758
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: people were, yeah, he's definitely that. But yeah, as two

759
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: of the only you know, grown men that still use

760
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: the word gross, which I think went out with Wicked

761
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: back in the nineties. Although you're not nearly as old as

762
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: I am, despite your four children, I mean, shout out

763
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: to Rotopad getting it done here.

764
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 7: I take my orders from that point.

765
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 1: When did it become okay to make fun of parents

766
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: for having like more than two children. Jim Gaffigan has

767
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: a whole whole like bit about this, which is great

768
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: that people just treat him like a freak. Like once

769
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 1: you get to three or four, it's like, oh, what's

770
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: wrong with you? Like, meanwhile, it's like everyone's got like

771
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: seven dogs and no one gives them a kick.

772
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 8: I don't know when it became okay, but I feel

773
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 8: it acutely because when I tell people we have four kids,

774
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 8: I seriously self consciously going, I don't know, man, like,

775
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 8: we're not like it's not a religious thing. We're not

776
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 8: like weird freaks. We just like kids, and we keep

777
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 8: having kids. And I do feel very self conscious.

778
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 5: Kids are Kids are great.

779
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: They make you happier, and then you're like, Wow, this

780
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: relationship is cooler than any other relationship I've ever had

781
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: in my life. Maybe why not have more of them?

782
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: Back in the day, four point five was like ADP

783
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: for kids.

784
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 5: So you're just old school.

785
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 7: My family's only half done too.

786
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 4: No, that's not true at all.

787
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that's right. People making you feel But

788
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: all right, let's do running backs and quarterbacks. I'm gonna

789
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with one. And this is where I

790
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: think when you're drafting fantasy, sometimes you gotta be emotional.

791
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: Not just make it all about about your feelings. Just

792
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: look at the facts. Tony Pollard was RB eight last year,

793
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: a top fifteen overall pick when he was coming off

794
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: a devastating injury. He is now much healthier, should be

795
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: more explosive. He is now running back twenty nine. I

796
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: get that he's not gonna have the same workload. In fact,

797
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: I think Taj Spears is incredible and is also a

798
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: good value. But both things can be true. Twenty nine

799
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: For Pollard, I think kla as their offensive line coach,

800
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: even though I didn't love what I saw last year.

801
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: It's just if you just look at the facts, you

802
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: look at his age, you look that he's healthier now,

803
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: you look where he is and what his talent is.

804
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 8: That's you could make the argument that it's a very

805
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 8: good thing he isn't gonna have the same workload because

806
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 8: his greatest success, both as a real life player and

807
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 8: as a fantasy threat, came is like the one be

808
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 8: the change of pace guy who got put on the

809
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 8: field and situation. It was always like a third down

810
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 8: where you can make an explosive play or in the

811
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 8: red zone where you could score a touchdown. So maybe

812
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 8: it's a good thing that the workload comes out.

813
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: And yet I think it is They're going to run

814
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: a ton and they'll each get two hundred touches in

815
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: a perfect world.

816
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 8: Just sue super convenient narratives like you said, he's actually

817
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 8: healthy and he got paid. When someone gets paid, they

818
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 8: want to use to it.

819
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 7: So he got paid.

820
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 5: Give me one. Give me a running back.

821
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 7: Kenneth Walker, Like, I know it's Ryan Grudd.

822
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 5: I thought about him.

823
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 8: It's Ryan Grub, mister passing game from the University of Washington.

824
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 8: But early in the offseason, Mike McDonald did the classic

825
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 8: talking up Fire and Brimstone talking about the running game,

826
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 8: he said he wanted to win the time of possession battle. Like, yeah,

827
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 8: I feel like I hadn't heard that one in a while,

828
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 8: especially from like a progressive minded coach like Mike McDonald.

829
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 8: This was like April. So maybe it's like the Ryan

830
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 8: grubbification of the offense. As intensified, they will look more

831
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 8: like the UW offense and not like the Ravens offense.

832
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 8: He's just such a rugged runner. He's the classic guy

833
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 8: like if you want to limit Gino's attempts, if you

834
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 8: do want to win the time of possession battle, Kenneth

835
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 8: Walker gives you those kind of carries.

836
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 7: He was not efficient last year, but.

837
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 8: Things were just going south kind of in general are

838
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 8: still a tackle breaking force, and he's like the RB

839
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 8: sixteen seventeen. I think he could easily still get into

840
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 8: that ten to twelve range.

841
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 5: I think that's good.

842
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: And Grubb had awesome offensive lines in Washington like they

843
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: they always were coaching as well, And to me, he's

844
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: a classic. Even though I like him, he's probably better

845
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: in fantasy than reality because yeah, big he's gonna hit

846
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: those fifty yard touchdowns and he's gonna have those negative

847
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: two runs, but those negative two runs don't really matter

848
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: that much in fantasy. Kind of the opposite of him,

849
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: who I think is underrated is Ramondre Stevenson last year

850
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: RB eleven. This one is an asdramatic, but thirtieth this

851
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: year RB eighteen, fifty eighth. Just one of the few

852
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: guys who is going to have the backfield to himself.

853
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: They're not going to over use him like a couple

854
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: of years ago, but it's great on passing down. Is

855
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: clearly the best running back in that room. They paid

856
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: him like a top five running back, and I think

857
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: that shows what they want to do for him. So

858
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: again it's just looking at value, like my son got

859
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: carried away and took him in the second round last year.

860
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: I think her first round. I think it was second round.

861
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: It's like that was too much. But now he'll be

862
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth and give you that second round value.

863
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 8: The only thing with Reminder Stevenson that I fear is

864
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 8: Bill Belichick clearly determined that he caught too many passes

865
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 8: and scaled back that role last year, and.

866
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 7: Then they did great.

867
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 5: He's a great receiver.

868
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 7: Gibson. I just feel like it's back to back regime.

869
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: I get it, but Jacoby and maybe not Drake me

870
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: as much, but Jacoby loves loves dumping it down.

871
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 5: So you're not moving me off this one. Give me one.

872
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 7: Do I have to give you another? Running backs? I

873
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 7: didn't really even want to say Javonte Williams, but I

874
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 7: am just going I don't.

875
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 8: I'm not drafting him, I'm I will say that. So

876
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 8: one of the reasons he's a post type is because

877
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 8: I'm not hyping it. But there's just so much talk

878
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 8: about the Broncos running back competition and he still has

879
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 8: the strongest case by far to be the number one guy.

880
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 8: And he's kind of like Tony Pollard. Will He'll be

881
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 8: another year removed from his injury. He didn't look right

882
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 8: to me. No, he doesn't look totally right.

883
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: In a minute, I just go, hey, the Denver situation

884
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: seems to be one of those in fantasies.

885
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 5: Just like you can you could just be like.

886
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 8: No, no, I actually don't think it's never gonna help.

887
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: Like maybe a waiver wire pickup that like hits for

888
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: three weeks, that's what.

889
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 5: I would want out of a Denver backfield.

890
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 7: I don't think it's hyperbole. I don't think I've drafted

891
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 7: a single Bronco.

892
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 9: Now.

893
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 8: I haven't done enough Best Ball drafts to do that,

894
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 8: because you eventually draft everyone at some point.

895
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 7: But I haven't drafted a single Bronco.

896
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: Two's spicy ones here very late. One I really believe in.

897
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: One that's just funny to me is Jackie Dobbins RB

898
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: forty nine right now. I just think he's I just

899
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: think it's Jim Harbaugh in the situation, and it might

900
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: be something where he just helps you late in the season.

901
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: But he is fully healthy. I know he's coming off

902
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: a torn achilles. He's shown that level of talent that

903
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: that's worth of shot. And then if you just want

904
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: to get freaky in a deep draft. I mean, I

905
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: couldn't have been more wrong about Damian Pierce. But if

906
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: you go from the first round to RB sixty one

907
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: and you're not totally confident in the guys in front

908
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: of Damian Pierce staying healthy, I would take him in

909
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: the seventeenth round. I mean, give me a little RB

910
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: sixty one Damian Pierce, fine.

911
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 8: Another one I would get freaky. I don't believe in

912
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 8: this player at all either, But Alexander Madison is the RB.

913
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: S okay, see, but we want we want players we

914
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 1: believe in. I've seen Damian Pierce excel at the NFL level.

915
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: That's the thing I think people missing fantasy. If you've

916
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: seen it once, it can happen again, even if they're

917
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: coming off a bad yue. Let's wrap quickly with quarterbacks.

918
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: Give me your favorite quarterback pick.

919
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 7: Does Kyler Murray count?

920
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 5: Yes? He was one of my two. He counts.

921
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 8: His ADP hasn't really fallen as much as I would

922
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 8: have expected. He's like QB seven an underdog. He is

923
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 8: QB ten really, and the more normy drafts I see thirteen,

924
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 8: I see ten.

925
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 5: It depends.

926
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's got he QB seven on underdogs so like

927
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 8: the sharp square quote or not fading him, like the

928
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 8: general public will be fading him because he's just disappointed

929
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 8: three too many times in fantasy and another he's never

930
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 8: been in a better organized offense. He's another year healthier,

931
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 8: he's gonna run more. He finally has another weapon, a

932
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 8: signature weapon, and Marvin Harrison Junior. I just really like

933
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 8: the way the Cardinals are coached and organized. It could

934
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 8: be famous last words, it seems like it's gonna be

935
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 8: his best setup he's had in a really long time,

936
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 8: and that the dual threat will return a year removed

937
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 8: from the injury.

938
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 5: To be a quarterback.

939
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: Like if you're not getting taken in the first four

940
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: rounds or so four five rounds, it's almost like I

941
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: don't care if I have to take Like if Kyler

942
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: is gonna be one of my two quarterbacks, I'm fine

943
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: taking him around early because he has that top three

944
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: or four upside and you're not gonna have to use

945
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: one of your first five or six picks on him.

946
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: And so I love that. I think he'll run. I

947
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 1: think he's gonna pass better than he ever has. Justin

948
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: Herbert was getting taken sixth at this time, a year ago.

949
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: He's now getting taken fourteenth. I think just people are

950
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: wallowing the whole, like Jim Harbaugh likes to run the

951
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: ball thing a little too much, and that this is

952
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: where I'm just betting on talent. If Justin Herbert's my

953
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: QB two like get out of here like Murray Herbert

954
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: combo if you wanted, or even just one of them,

955
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: and pick someone at the end and just go cheap

956
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: at quarterback, He'll find a way to get yards. I

957
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: think they'll run them a little bit more, maybe in

958
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: the red zone than they have before.

959
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 5: So I'm all about it. I believe in Harba.

960
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 8: I believe in Herbert too, and it's become a mantra

961
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 8: in fantasy. Tempts are a quarterback stat. We are going

962
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 8: to find that out with the Chargers this year because

963
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 8: we are getting the ultimate experiment and they're not.

964
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: Gonna take the ball out of his hand. I think

965
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: their defense might be pretty bad. Like he's the best

966
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: player on the team. Jim Harbaugh has like posters of

967
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: him on the wall that he goes to sleep through.

968
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: What so he's gonna hand it off to Gus Edwards

969
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: and JK. Dobbins fifty times a game. I don't think so.

970
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 7: So now you don't like j K.

971
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 8: Dobams H No, I like him, but I like him

972
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 8: at But hey, you didn't say neither one of us

973
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 8: had the courage to say Aaron Rodgers is he post

974
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 8: type guy? No, that the lead balloon falls in the show?

975
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 5: Where is he?

976
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: He's outside the top twenty at quarterback and quarterback's crazy

977
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: man because Caleb Williams, Stafford Rogers are all like outside

978
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: the top fifteen, and it's just another reason not to

979
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: take any quarterback early met Although you know, I don't

980
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: know do what you want, but I won't.

981
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 8: I want to take Aaron Rodgers, but I mean, we've

982
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 8: seen vengeful Aaron Rodgers before and it's his best supporting

983
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 8: cast in a long time.

984
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 5: He's a fun QB two. That's a good one.

985
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: No, I agree, that actually fits my profile, a player

986
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: that's shown himself. He's like literally one of the best

987
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: players of all time. Yes, and you're buying low as hell.

988
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 1: Patrick Darty, one of the best Rodo writers of all time,

989
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: still using the word roto world.

990
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 5: How about that?

991
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 8: I still think it's corny roto pep, but people remember it,

992
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 8: So you gotta use it. And if I'm one of

993
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 8: the you are the best what you do. I'm so

994
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 8: glad you've got the show, and I'm so glad you

995
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 8: had me on.

996
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: Uh well, yeah, I want to have you on regularly.

997
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: Like I said, We're gonna do fantasy, you know, regularly. God,

998
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: I got the Big Dog, the Big Fish, even Silva.

999
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 1: At some point, we're gonna we have a Mike Florio

1000
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: from NFL and Marcus Grant coming up in the studio

1001
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. I think we're gonna do

1002
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: a mock draft, but just sprinkling that in, especially in

1003
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: draft season.

1004
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 5: Love you, Boddy, Thanks Pat.

1005
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 7: Love you too. Promise to yell at Evan. You guys

1006
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 7: need to yell at each other.

1007
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily, wrapping up the show with Patrick

1008
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: Clayband before.

1009
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 5: He hits the road.

1010
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: Although he's gonna be on this show from the road

1011
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: Monday Morning show. He'll be in Cincinnati, excited for that.

1012
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, he's gonna hit some teams before

1013
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: that though, let's talk about some dumb stuff. We just

1014
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 1: want to wrap up the show with dumb stuff. And

1015
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: you were talking about Patrick, like, who's going to have

1016
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,959
Speaker 1: the quote of training camp. Would you say you thought

1017
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: Sean Payton had it last year?

1018
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's a little It kind of counts right

1019
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: because it's in an interview.

1020
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 4: You know, he's in his office, he's comfortable. And then

1021
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 4: I thought, like, who is in position.

1022
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 5: When he dog Nathaniel Hackett.

1023
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, when he provided maybe his analysis of the

1024
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 2: twenty two Denver Broncos.

1025
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 4: I want somebody to do that again this year.

1026
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: But I'm worried that there was so much fervor that

1027
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 2: everybody's going to be buttoned up in p's and q's

1028
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: in respect mode, that we're not going to get any fun.

1029
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: Well, Sean Payton's to me a good candidate to make

1030
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: it happen. I think Jim Harbaugh we already heard on

1031
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: this show he is a good candidate because older people

1032
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: not gonna say guys, but older people they don't care.

1033
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 5: They know, what does it really matter?

1034
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: Like there, I'm looking forward to being even more of

1035
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: that person that just doesn't care and they'll say whatever.

1036
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: And Sean Payton, he's won a super Bowl, he's made

1037
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: the money, he doesn't care. I really actually found this

1038
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: interaction at Broncos camp very funny. It was his Shohn

1039
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 1: Payton's first press conference of training camp.

1040
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 7: Coach Cecilamie Denver Sports. I'm gonna piggyback on the.

1041
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 4: Greg dulcuch thing. How far behind is he?

1042
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: Based on Lucas Kroll was maybe your best player this

1043
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: entire offseason.

1044
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 8: And I hope you had a good summer, by the way,

1045
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 8: I do too, But did you say Lucas was our

1046
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 8: best player, best tight end?

1047
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 4: It's arguable he was a No, I wasn't no, it

1048
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 4: wasn't all right. I'll answer you a question, but you're

1049
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 4: not close.

1050
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 5: Lucas Kroll.

1051
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're wondering who Lucas Croll is, He's

1052
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: a third year player who attended three colleges, has played

1053
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: for the Saints and the Broncos, has eight career catches,

1054
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: ended up at Pittsburgh, and like he's taken shots.

1055
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 5: There from his coach.

1056
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: But I found that very funny that he was not

1057
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: gonna take like weird hot take from someone who was

1058
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: at too many OTA's and just was impressed by Lucas Scroll.

1059
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, and no.

1060
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: I do want to hear Lucas's reaction to that interaction

1061
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 2: because it's an ears burning types of choice, like whoa

1062
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: Lucas Kroll mentioned, and so like his phone's probably blowing

1063
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: up and now he's got to click on that quote,

1064
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: and like I want to I want to see him

1065
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 2: watching them.

1066
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 1: Shout out to Cecilami though, who asked that question old

1067
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: school fantasy guy online at football guys when I was

1068
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: starting at two thousand and three and still getting it done,

1069
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: and knows a lot about football, So I'm sure he

1070
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: just was really impressed by his off season workouts.

1071
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 5: But he was shut down eventually.

1072
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: Sean Payton actually threw out a couple names of like

1073
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: people that were better than Lucas Scroll and he said

1074
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: Patrick sartan good choice and Quinn Minors, who they just

1075
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: gave eighty million dollars too.

1076
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 5: So he was like, there are two players who.

1077
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: Has had better off seasons than Lucas Kroll, but that

1078
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: I love that it was unnecessary, but he wasn't wasn't

1079
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: gonna let that side. Do you have some candidates of

1080
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: who might also have some good quote?

1081
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 4: Well there was.

1082
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean was reacting to an anonymous gem saying that

1083
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: Josh Allen was overrated, and he said, there's idiots everywhere.

1084
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 4: Mmm, okay, and I think it's not.

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Speaker 2: It's not spicy because it's not like something that some

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00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: other team is going to have to answer questions about.

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Speaker 4: But it is.

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00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 2: It is a fun quote that kind of takes me

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00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: in the direction where I want these guys to be

1090
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 2: comfortable up there answering questions and not, you know, shying

1091
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 2: away from from having fun.

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Speaker 5: I love that.

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00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: It reminds me of Tom Emory, my high school tennis

1094
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: coach who who had a vision of this this group

1095
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: when we were just in in elementary school and it

1096
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: led to a high school championship.

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Speaker 5: But he once told me.

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00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: I remember a practice and he was like, Greg, one

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00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: thing you got to learn ninety nine percent of people

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00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 1: you meet in life are idiots. And I was like, well,

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00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: let's coach. But I gotta say that that I don't

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00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: know if ninety nine is high. That's a touch even

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00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: ninety five I don't remember now, but it's a touch high.

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00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: But I gotta say that quote pops up in my

1105
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: head in a way. Most words of wisdom at that

1106
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: age have not stuck with me quite as long.

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Speaker 5: I want to hear from Jamar Chase. I like this.

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00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 1: He was interviewed as part of the Top one hundred

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00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: that we've been rolling out the top one hundred at

1110
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: NFL Network and on NFL Plus. My son Walker, it

1111
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: was actually watching it on NFL Plus going player by player.

1112
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: I don't think they got to Jamar Chase yet, but

1113
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 1: the NFL sent out this clip of them asking who's

1114
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: the best player in the league, who's.

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Speaker 7: The number one player.

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Speaker 9: I don't know what I'm not saying him. I give

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00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 9: credit when with due, but I'm not saying his name.

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00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 9: You're talking about, yeah, you do.

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00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 4: I'm not saying his name.

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Speaker 3: Brother.

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Speaker 9: I'm sorry, Joe Burrow. I'm not saying that guy's name.

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Speaker 9: He's good, he's amazing, he's good.

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Speaker 4: Not gonna lie.

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Speaker 9: I'm salty, though, a little salty two years in a row.

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Speaker 9: Fro'm putting Borough first.

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00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: So he said, he said, I'll give credit where it's

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00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: too It's like, no, you're literally not giving the credit.

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Speaker 4: But the credit. He said, he's amazing, he's awesome.

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00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: He just said he Wasn't we all well confused because

1130
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: then he throws in Burrow's name a couple of times.

1131
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: But that almost made it worse because he's he's throwing

1132
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: his guy's name in there right after pointing out that no,

1133
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Patrick Mahomes's name, but the same for him.

1134
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: Mahomes hasn't been their problem, right, like not exactly. I

1135
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: guess I don't know he's everyone's problem. What do you

1136
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: mean he wasn't their problem last year? But just that

1137
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: they're out there winning super Bowls when the Bengals are not.

1138
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: I think that's that's the problem. And that he's, you know,

1139
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: maybe the best quarterback of all time through the first

1140
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: seven years of his career. I wouldn't even say maybe

1141
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: he's definitely the best quarterback of all time through seven

1142
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 1: years of his career.

1143
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 2: It just feels like like them being the roadblock. Yes,

1144
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: it doesn't like if Cincinnati when when they have it

1145
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 2: all together. Yeah, it hasn't. It hasn't been the Chiefs.

1146
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 4: You know.

1147
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: No, But I look, he's he's elevating Mahomes to like

1148
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: Babba Yaga territory and he's like not even talking about

1149
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 2: him a pencil and so yeah, I get I like

1150
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: the energy and it makes the games fun.

1151
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 5: It was just dumb, dumb stuff.

1152
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: Any other any other options for your quotes before we

1153
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: open the mail bag?

1154
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 5: Just quickly, Dan.

1155
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: Campbell walked out. They got a new podium in their media.

1156
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 2: Oh yes, and Dan Campbell is a large person. This

1157
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: podium isn't.

1158
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: I am so happy you brought this up. You can

1159
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: see it on the YouTube show.

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00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 2: It's crazy a normal person is is making headway in

1161
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: that thing.

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Speaker 5: I did.

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00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 1: Nothing filled me with more glee today than just seeing

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00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell behind this boat, this yacht of a of

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00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: a podium. And I like that there's a there's a

1166
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: cabinet on the side that's locked as part of it.

1167
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: I want to know what's in that cabinet. Is amazing

1168
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: that that podium. It's the opposite of the Bengals podium

1169
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: one year where everyone made fun of how small and

1170
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: dinky their podium was.

1171
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: There should be a fridge in there. There was always,

1172
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: you know, one of the team staffers. We would go

1173
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: to you know, Coach Stapans availability every every week in Tuscaloosa,

1174
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 2: and Cedric would bring his Coca Cola Classic and put

1175
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 2: it on the podium with that thing. You gotta have

1176
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 2: a fridge in there, and Coach Campbell could just he

1177
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: would have to walk around again, go watch this on

1178
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 2: the YouTube show. He would not be able to reach

1179
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 2: and open the door. He has to walk around the

1180
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 2: podium and open it. It's that big.

1181
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 5: It's amazing.

1182
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: It looks like it looks like one of the Tesla

1183
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: trucks that are, you know, just blating blighting the highways

1184
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles.

1185
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 4: It's a little more aesthetically pleasing, it is.

1186
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna take a couple questions before we

1187
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: go that you guys sent in and comments to the

1188
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: mail box.

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00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 5: What is our mail address again, Randy?

1190
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 6: That would be NFL Daily Podcast at gmail dot com.

1191
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, send us send us some questions about the

1192
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: show or the upcoming season, and and we're gonna try

1193
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: to get to them at a future episode NFL Daily

1194
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: Podcast at gmail dot com. All right, throw them up, Randy.

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00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: Before we say goodbye, this is from Faith. I listened

1196
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: to at in the past three years after my dad

1197
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 1: sent me an episode. I love the show. So glad

1198
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: there's a sequel after the hiatus. I've enjoyed this show.

1199
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: Wondering if the podcast segments are gonna be new or

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00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: will some from ATN return.

1201
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 5: My personal favorite inter.

1202
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: Monologues Dalton Scale by the way, Judge Connie was great.

1203
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: Please bring it back. We will definitely be bringing back

1204
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 1: Judge Connie. That was a lot of fun. I thought

1205
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 1: i'd address this because you might have noticed we haven't

1206
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: done the same thing. It doesn't feel right. Yeah, like

1207
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: we're here, it's a different show.

1208
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 5: Those were.

1209
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: Concept we all came up together, like, and it just

1210
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: doesn't that. It doesn't feel right to me. So as

1211
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 1: much as like I love doing them all and they're

1212
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: out there, it's like that those aren't mine to to do.

1213
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: That's how I feel and or ours, you know what

1214
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: I mean. Just that was that was around the NFL's

1215
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: those were those shows. Dalton Scales different. That's just in

1216
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 1: the universe. To me, that's bigger than anyone. That's that's

1217
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: telling the truth about how football works. Because that was

1218
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: even before the you know, that was just that was

1219
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: a concept Chris came up.

1220
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 5: So I think I referenced it in this show.

1221
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: So we will be referencing it and maybe maybe I'll

1222
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: do some Dalton Scale stuff.

1223
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 5: But that's now. For the most part, I don't want

1224
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 5: to do the same stuff.

1225
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not because of the quality of this

1226
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:38,439
Speaker 2: stuff now, it's just.

1227
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 5: It's it's it's gone.

1228
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: But of course we're you know, people have asked, and

1229
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: we did say, you know, we're having the previous show,

1230
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: we're having a recap show, and we'll have picks of

1231
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: some sort and it'll just be it'll be different. Let's

1232
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: throw up the next one before we get out of here.

1233
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 5: Uh.

1234
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: Don Krean says, if and when things go south, why

1235
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: should Nick and talking about Nick Sirianni be fired if

1236
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: he didn't pick his own OC and DC, if how

1237
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: he picked Kellen and Vic, how he owned Kelen and Vic?

1238
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: Who owns is aggressive? Jeffrey Lurry owns Philly Accountability. This

1239
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: is just how it works, bro Like, when you're not

1240
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: in charge, you get blamed sometimes for things that are

1241
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: out of your control. And I think they viewed it like, yeah,

1242
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: we'll keep Nick Sirianni and we'll keep it under our parameters.

1243
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: These are the parameters he's gonna have to work with

1244
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: and if he can't make this work, sorry.

1245
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 2: And the first person that was made aware of those

1246
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 2: parameters was most likely Nick Sirianni.

1247
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 4: Sure, so he he is.

1248
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 2: You know, you want volunteers, not hostages. And Nick Sirianni

1249
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 2: is completely fine being the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles.

1250
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: That's a perfect point to make, because Doug Peterson was

1251
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: surprisingly fired, I believe based on the reporting that came afterwards,

1252
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: after not apting a similar idea exactly. He was just like, what, No,

1253
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: I won a super Bowl? No, and Nick Sirianni was

1254
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: was that close to winning a Super Bowl.

1255
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 5: But I get it.

1256
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: He has a very talented team, he loves coaching, and

1257
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: he's going to try to make this work.

1258
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 5: It is just a little weird, you know, slightly work because.

1259
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: Coaches usually picked their staff, but the Eagles do things

1260
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: a little differently in general, and for the most part,

1261
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: it's been very effective.

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00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: And if, like we talked about Bill earlier, if Bill

1263
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 2: Belichick was willing to probably give a little lenience to

1264
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: his staff preparation and choices, then he'd be the head coach.

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00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought you were going to say he would

1266
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: be the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles because they

1267
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: did speak with him, how he spoke with him maybe,

1268
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: so who even knows how that conversation went or how

1269
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: it could go in the future. That's something to watch

1270
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: watch out for. NFL Daily appreciate you guys listening. We

1271
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: have Brian Baldinger. Baldy excited about this segment we have

1272
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: cooked up with Baldy and Mike Carrifolo is going to

1273
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: be on the show to wrap up the week on

1274
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: Friday's show as well with some news, So looking forward

1275
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: to that, looking forward to having you Patrick back on

1276
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: on a Monday show. And until then, Yeah, we're.

1277
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 5: Out the womb. Just wipe off that gunkin. Let's go.

1278
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 4: Music by John Placento.

1279
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 5: For Patrick and Randy. You'll see you next day.

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00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 7: Sal There's idiots everywhere.