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Speaker 1: this comes from Throwra Royal mess who says, I've been

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Speaker 2: When he proposed.

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Speaker 1: After a year of us being together, I noticed on

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Speaker 1: his profile. There were a few with my husband from

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Speaker 1: about eight to ten years ago, as well as another woman.

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Speaker 3: Conspiracy theory, conspiracy seriracy theory. Do you know where this

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Speaker 3: is going? I know that I feel like it's his son.

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Speaker 3: It's his son from another family. That is my conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 3: It is his son from another family.

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Speaker 1: When I asked my husband, he said that the boy

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Speaker 3: Not his son son.

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Speaker 1: He explained that they were very serious, but that she

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Speaker 2: Still hasn't answered the question.

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Speaker 2: Don't even mention Val.

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Speaker 1: I am so glad that you came along, because that

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Speaker 1: girl was so bad for him. She was unemployed, a

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Speaker 1: accepted her. I am very successful career wise and well established.

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Speaker 1: My family is very prominent in the community and will regarded.

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Speaker 4: Snoodler literally said that they didn't want like the previous.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't accept that trash in this family. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: The more I thought about it, the more it really

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they only want a prominent family.

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Speaker 1: I asked my husband about Val again and asked if

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Speaker 1: When I asked what was different about me, he responded,

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Speaker 2: You're a Diana, so.

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Speaker 4: Like you're you come from your high class, your high class,

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Speaker 5: That doesn'pose well for her though.

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Speaker 3: No, no, well it doesn't.

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Speaker 5: Diana's story didn't end well.

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Speaker 1: I asked him if that meant that he would marry

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Speaker 5: What, no, because that's what happened with Dana.

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Speaker 1: And then the split makes even more sense now. They

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Speaker 1: They they rekindled. So this has been I think nine

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Speaker 1: Are you serious right now? Is he talking to Val again?

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Speaker 1: I'm going to Africa. I asked my father how he

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Speaker 1: My mother admitted that they had arranged my marriage. What

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Speaker 5: They were in koots.

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Speaker 1: Shortly thereafter, his mother called my explained about Val and

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Speaker 1: This is crazy, like evil rich.

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Speaker 1: We must keep the family strong.

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Speaker 1: I asked my mother why she agreed, and she admitted

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Speaker 5: Oh freak, they're homophobic too.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, this went such in it's such a crazy way.

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Speaker 2: I'm wow.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, death Brits.

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Speaker 4: The two mothers came together and one mother was like,

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Speaker 3: Did they think the daughter was gay or that she

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Speaker 1: That's why my husband was immediately invited to every holiday.

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Speaker 1: That is true. That is true. I told them I

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Speaker 1: I walked into our house and told my husband everything.

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Speaker 1: The level of coordination and the crazy thing is that

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Speaker 3: Are they going to stay together?

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Speaker 1: When he said he was going to save the money

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And they kept telling him what a good match I

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Speaker 1: He asked his parents while we were engaged if it

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Speaker 2: He knew, he knew, he knew, he knew.

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Speaker 2: I am sorry. Friend.

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Speaker 1: If I could, I would give you the biggest hug.

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Speaker 1: Number two, is there an outclause of acceptable reasons for

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Speaker 4: I want to know if the like, if everything else

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Speaker 5: That's such a yeah, why would you assume that?

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Speaker 2: Nor am I?

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Speaker 1: I was the last of my siblings to get married.

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Speaker 1: Up until that point, I had never seriously dated someone.

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Speaker 1: My parents are conservative, white Christian Republicans. There are a

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Speaker 3: So they are in the US, it's not in the UK.

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Speaker 5: And they arranged it.

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Speaker 1: My husband and I both make six figures both each.

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Speaker 1: Damn money is not an issue at all. For the

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Speaker 2: Am?

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Speaker 3: But I don't It doesn't okay, it doesn't feel like

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I think she's reeling from the Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean.

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Speaker 1: It could just it sounds like he was like kind

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and like the kid still wants to have a relationship.

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Speaker 3: I don't see that as red flag. Okay, So I

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Because if he really if he if he really thought

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Speaker 3: kept a secret, then I think it's pretty fucked. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Put the hats on real quick.

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Speaker 3: Hats on? Are we going into a conspiracy theory?

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Speaker 2: I have got this, I have got this figure out.

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Speaker 1: So remember when he she told him and then he's like,

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Speaker 5: Like oh, my parents set us up.

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Speaker 3: You know, like they didn't know in a year. I

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Speaker 3: and she was like, oh my god, like my daughter

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Speaker 1: So this is the end of the story, Sam, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not abolutely over.

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Speaker 5: Oh it's over.

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Speaker 3: Evil mom gets told by her boyfriend, I will never

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Speaker 3: I got engaged. So the wedding got canceled. Yep, okay,

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Speaker 3: I want to see how this happens.

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Speaker 2: Thanks by Godzilla number.

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Speaker 6: Hey, what's up.

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Speaker 3: So you had a story about planning a double wedding

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Speaker 6: So for full context, this happened in twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Okay, my spouse.

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Speaker 6: Now, but you know them boyfriend had proposed to me.

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Speaker 6: We were both active in the military at the time.

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Speaker 6: And it was really crazy is that he was on

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Speaker 5: On his way to.

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Speaker 6: Actually ended up yeah, and so I actually ended up

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Speaker 6: like a stress fracture. His humors. Wow, And like the

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Speaker 6: funniest part of it was like, Holly, I'm so worried

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Speaker 2: I'm that's so adorable.

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Speaker 3: God, he was probably so nervous to like going to propose,

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Speaker 3: That's probably why. Yeah, And oh my god. Also, who

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Speaker 6: Oh? So I'm Signal Imagination.

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Speaker 1: Show legend God.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So and you.

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Speaker 6: Said yes, obviously, I was super excited. So tell what

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, do you know what he's been through

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Speaker 6: So like I keep getting all these messages from her.

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Speaker 6: Bob as like a forty five year old man that's

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Speaker 6: I'm never getting married, Like I don't want to get married,

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Speaker 6: like so he gave her. I think it's called the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So I decided to spend Thanksgiving with my future

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Speaker 6: her like negativity. Yeah, that was a big mistake because Bob,

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Speaker 6: even though Bob was like nuts, like, his family was

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Speaker 6: She put the script oh supportive after that, right, Yeah, no,

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Speaker 6: because if you're pregnant, you know you're not gonna fit

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Speaker 3: So yeah, like that's so crazy. So how did how

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Speaker 6: So no, no, no, there was not supposed to be

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Speaker 6: Christmas Eve. We go to bob house that's where she

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Speaker 6: Plant? Like all these questions and when I like try

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00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 6: to deflect them, like Bob's mother kind of like clued

450
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 6: me in. She gave me a funny lope and I

451
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 6: was just like past suspicious and told me, and my

452
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 6: mom goes, oh, hey, I have some like can you

453
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 6: and your fiance come with me? Like we have something

454
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 6: to talk about. So like I look at my fiancee

455
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 6: and I'm like, but what's going on? Like I'm so confute.

456
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 6: So him and I go to Bob's living room, like

457
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 6: where because the party was right next door to Bob's parents.

458
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 6: He live right next door. So we go there and

459
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 6: she starts grilling us about details and like both my

460
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 6: my fiance and I are just like we're holding our

461
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 6: our drinks because you know the seve we make you're

462
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,640
Speaker 6: trying to me marry and like, yeah, no, we're deflecting.

463
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 6: And she goes, oh, so you haven't planned anything yet,

464
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 6: and we're like no, and then she suddenly pulls out

465
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 6: this fucking three inched binders full of patterns THENI wedding

466
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 6: dresses everything, so this entire time, yes, She's like, oh,

467
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 6: so you and I are gonna like we're gonna have

468
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 6: our ceremonies like in tandem. And I'm like, oh my god,

469
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 6: oh my god.

470
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 3: So she wants to do her marriage at the same

471
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 3: time as yours.

472
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 6: Yes, and like I'm just standing there just like I'm

473
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 6: looking at my husband like like I'm not my husband,

474
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 6: my fiance right, And my fiance he tells me like afterwards,

475
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 6: like all he hears is crazy trade in the background

476
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 6: because he's like he couldn't believe what he's hearing. And

477
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 6: so as this is happening, Bob walks in looking for us,

478
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 6: and he's like, keep a little tipps and keep a

479
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 6: little drunk. And he's so blinder and he looks at

480
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 6: her he's like, oh, what's this And my fiance like, well,

481
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 6: my husband, right, He's always been the wittiest, like funny,

482
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 6: quick talker, like even when he's drunk it he just

483
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 6: looks at Bob and goes, oh, congratulations on your engagement.

484
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 6: You're like mother was showing us to a web plans.

485
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 6: Bob looks directly at my mother at her and goes, oh,

486
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 6: we've been over this. I am not marrying you.

487
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

488
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: They spilt right at your feet.

489
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: Wow.

490
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 6: So like I'm there like steering it. Like as soon

491
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 6: as that happens, like she grabbed my hand and pulled

492
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 6: me out of the house.

493
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: Good, yeah, get out there, you know what, the fat.

494
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 6: Fallout and then the crazy like like you know, it

495
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 6: all falls apart, right.

496
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,719
Speaker 3: It hasn't fallen apart yet, that's crazy.

497
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 6: So afterwards, I'm thinking, you know, okay, she's gonna let

498
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 6: it go right this.

499
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 3: There's no way you're having a double wedding with your mom.

500
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 3: And there's no way, especially if Bob's not on board

501
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 3: with the wedding.

502
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way.

503
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no way it's happening right right.

504
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 6: So like afterwards, she's like starts the whole conversation all

505
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 6: over again, and I'm like, mom, he just said he

506
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 6: wasn't going to marry you, and she goes, oh, you know,

507
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 6: it's just a little tiss, like we're gonna get married.

508
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 6: And at this point I look at my fiance. We've

509
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 6: already had all the gistical problems, and I'm just like,

510
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 6: you know what, I don't want to deal with the stress.

511
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 6: Do you want to deal with the stress? And he's

512
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 6: like not really no. So we ended up getting married

513
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 6: in the courthouse about telling anybody.

514
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 5: Wow, that seems like yeah, I get it.

515
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 3: That seems way better, and I'm glad you totally avoided

516
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 3: the weird double wedding with your mom. I have one

517
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: final question for you. Did Bob and your mom get married?

518
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 6: I think it's broken up now. Oh I think I

519
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 6: haven't spoken her in like five years. So here's a

520
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 6: full impact of all this if you'd like to hear

521
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 6: the whole compact. Our first child was born on the

522
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 6: same day we got engaged.

523
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 3: Oh that's so cute. Well, congratulations to you, and thank

524
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 3: you so much for sharing your story. We really appreciate it.

525
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love you guys.

526
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 3: You guys kind of we appreciate you.

527
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 5: Oh he's so cute. Yeah, my goodness.

528
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 3: Oh man, and they they just got married right away.

529
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

530
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 2: Wow.

531
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 3: Am I the a hole for telling my son that

532
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 3: he ruined Christmas for me and his stepdad when he

533
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: decided to spend it with his dad.

534
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a bit dicey, gonna We're gonna have to.

535
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 3: See what this story says. Me female and my husband

536
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 3: male are divorced. We have a sixteen year old son together, Mason.

537
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 3: I got remarried to my husband male Nathan. My ex

538
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: husband and I used to argue on who should get

539
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: Mason for the holidays. Back when he was little. As

540
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,719
Speaker 3: he got older, we started letting him decide. Last year,

541
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 3: he spent Christmas with me, Nathan, and my in laws,

542
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 3: and he complained that the experience was terrible because he

543
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 3: said Nathan and his family had little to no accommodation

544
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 3: for his food choices. I'm not defending them, but my

545
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 3: in laws are quite traditional when it comes to food

546
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 3: and a bit ignorant when it comes to what Mason eats.

547
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 3: I only eat white foods.

548
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: I am a sugartarian.

549
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: I only eat sugar.

550
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 3: I had an ex girlfriend that would only eat white

551
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 3: food It's like rice, white bread.

552
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: That seems like a red a story in the making.

553
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: She grew out of it by when she was younger.

554
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 3: Oh oh, like like as a kid, as a kid.

555
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought you were saying she was like, I

556
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: only eat white foods, Buy me bread, buy me bananas,

557
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: or get the out of buck out of my life.

558
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no.

559
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 3: He also said he doesn't feel as welcome as the

560
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: other kids in the family and that Nathan forced him

561
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 3: to share his personal stuff like his phone, so that

562
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,959
Speaker 3: his step nephews could watch Christmas movies. Yesterday, during breakfast,

563
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: we were talking about Christmas and what we were planning

564
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: this year, But then out of nowhere, he announced he'll

565
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 3: be spending this Christmas with his dad at a rental

566
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: Christmas cottage in his favorite town.

567
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: Sounds lit. Yes, it is at Christmas cottage in his

568
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: favorite town.

569
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you can't beat that, bro. That's that's also

570
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 3: after like being in a place the worst Christmas ever?

571
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 3: Come on, I was stunned. How you stunned that? It's like, hey,

572
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 3: would you rather go to Disneyland.

573
00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: Or a landfill? Would you rather smell stinky diapers.

574
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: Or delicious funnel? Okay, it's not really much of a

575
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: competition diapers, obviously. I asked Mason when and how he

576
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 3: agreed to this arrangement, but he pointed back to what

577
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 3: happened last Christmas and said he didn't want to basically

578
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 3: have another shitty house. Damn, Mason Savage, have another shitty

579
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 3: holiday and be miserable. I told him that his dad

580
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 3: should have come to me first, but he argued that

581
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: he's already okay, Tod, and he saw no need for

582
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 3: my opinion. Well, they didn't say that he could choose,

583
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 3: so they literally said that. We started arguing, and he

584
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: started complaining about me trying to ruin the experience, but

585
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 3: in response, I told him that he already ruined Christmas

586
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 3: for me and his stepdad, And the minute he agreed

587
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 3: to this arrangement, he got up and walked away after

588
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: saying that I was being over dramatic. Nathan just sat

589
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: there and looked down. You know, Mason is savage savagery.

590
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 3: How old is he? Sixteen?

591
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 2: Sixteen? And checks out.

592
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 3: I had a huge argument on the phone with Mason's dad,

593
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 3: and he kept giving me an attitude and laughing and

594
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 3: saying that I sounded pathetic. When I told him I'd

595
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 3: have my lawyer call him, he backpedaled and said he

596
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 3: wouldn't have done this if Mason didn't like it. Here's

597
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: me to drop it and let Mason have this experience,

598
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: or he'll resent me for missing it. Now Mason isn't

599
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: speaking to me. Nathan is trying to convince him to

600
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 3: stay with us because without him, our Christmas is ruined,

601
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 3: but he won't budge. From the looks of it, am

602
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: I the a hole for not dropping it as well?

603
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 3: What I meant by why did his dad come to

604
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: me first, is that he planned to take Mason out

605
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 3: of town, which is like a big deal to me.

606
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 3: They're going to be traveling together, and I guess that's

607
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 3: a big deal with her. But like, bro, like your lawyer, Yeah,

608
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: that's kind of shits talking about What are you talking about?

609
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: What are your son won't hang out with me?

610
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 3: So I'm getting a lawyer involved.

611
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: Don't force him to hang out. Literally, like you you think,

612
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: what are you going to like sue your son for

613
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: not loving you?

614
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: Like they probably have like like strict visitation rights in

615
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: the divorce right and so the father might like be

616
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 3: not like like might might be going against those visitations.

617
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: That does make more sense, but it's also like, lady,

618
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: have have have some common sense, Like you let him

619
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: choose where to go. He had a shitty Christmas and

620
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: now he's going with his dad to his favorite city

621
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: in a Christmas cotage. Bruh, And that sounds so lit.

622
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: There is no comparison. Sounds so you idiot,