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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up everybody?

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Speaker 2: DJ?

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Speaker 1: Bucky back with you here on Move the Sticks? Buck,

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Speaker 1: What is going on? How is you?

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Speaker 2: Easter?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 3: Easter was great? Uh kids of back. Son came in town.

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Speaker 3: I got with him.

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Speaker 2: Uh man, what we dot's let's just hung out man.

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Speaker 3: It was just kind of cool, kind of being back,

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Speaker 3: being able to kind of relax because I knew starting

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Speaker 3: on Monday, pats of the draft started and so it

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Speaker 3: will be a busy next four to five weeks getting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Bucky's Bucky's hammering Path every day, so being the

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Speaker 1: lookout for that. We've got Mock Draft Live, which I

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Speaker 1: think is Lance. I think that's Lance's mock draft this week.

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Speaker 1: That's Tuesdays. So we've got you're doing TA as well.

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Speaker 3: T no no no TA. But now are you doing

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Speaker 2: Like what?

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Speaker 1: So I've got the Draft show with Lance that we're

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Speaker 1: on Tuesdays. Tuesdays is like my car wash day. So Path,

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Speaker 1: all on that. You can just go on NFL Plus

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Speaker 1: I think it's just you just kind of a Schmorgsborg

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Speaker 1: And then I do what are called those baseball cards.

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Speaker 1: So when the guys get picked. For those that don't know,

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Speaker 3: That is not an easy job, but that's fun because

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Speaker 3: the one thing that we've learned, particularly on this side,

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Speaker 3: had to day in the production meeting DJ. Every person

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Speaker 2: But the visual the visuals, who.

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Speaker 2: But it's not an easy it's not an easy fix.

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Speaker 3: And sometimes you try and like, for instance, if we

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Speaker 3: Bunch of people just trade out and try and hey,

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm not gonna be easy.

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Speaker 3: And DJ like what I believe is I should be

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Speaker 3: I mean he just over You're just talking all about it,

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Speaker 1: these teams up in the top ten, we all have

435
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 1: been saying they're all gonna take offense. So it's got

436
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,440
Speaker 1: to you gotta rethink this thing here, DJ.

437
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,439
Speaker 3: This is gonna be Yeah, it's gonna be tough. This

438
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 3: is gonna be it to it's gonna be hard. Yes,

439
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 3: it's gonna got New England.

440
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 2: I have New England.

441
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,120
Speaker 3: And I'm sitting here thinking about the Patriots and when

442
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 3: they've been at their best. You know, it's funny because

443
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 3: when Bill Belichick was there, they were always a coverage team,

444
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 3: not a rush team. They put a premium on the

445
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 3: DBS more so than the past rushers. I think girod

446
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,159
Speaker 3: Mayo continues with that tradition and he is going to

447
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 3: take a corner. So I'm gonna take a corner. From Alabama.

448
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 3: Let's go with Terrian Arnold. Let's put him in place

449
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,399
Speaker 3: for the New England Patriots and see if we can

450
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 3: get a little better by playing tighter defense, and we

451
00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 3: can pair him with Christian Gonzalez and really get after people.

452
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I'm up next, and I've got I've

453
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 1: got some options here. I'm gonna go. I could go

454
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,360
Speaker 1: a couple different places. I'm gonna go, man, I might

455
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm down to one of the edge rushers

456
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 1: here with Arizona. This is a team that was pretty

457
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 1: bad last year thirtieth and sacks. They were last in

458
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 1: rushing yards per game, last and third down defense twenty

459
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 1: seventh and takeaways of it. I mean, this is a

460
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 1: team that really does need defense. So if I'm looking

461
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: at them and they're gonna take an edge rusher, I'm

462
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: gonna go. Dallas Turner here from Alabama with the fourth pick.

463
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 3: Mm Okay, So now we are here with the Chargers.

464
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 3: I brought back the older guys. I have Khalil mac

465
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 3: I have Joey Bosa. I have knees not only outside,

466
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 3: but I have knees on the inside and defensive tackle.

467
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 3: But DJ, I'm just thinking long term, and I just

468
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 3: think about Jim Harbor, just the toughness and all that

469
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 3: other stuff. Let's go with Jared Verse from Florida State.

470
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 3: So I got a young pass rusher in the hopper

471
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,959
Speaker 3: to eventually replace Khalil Mack or Joey Bosa after this season.

472
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 2: So let's go it first, all right.

473
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that move here that gets

474
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: me the New York Giants, And man, this is I'm

475
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 1: telling you. They start these options start disappearing quick here.

476
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 2: All right.

477
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 1: So for the Giants, when I look at them, corner

478
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: could go corner here. Safety, I'm not taking the safety

479
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: all the way up here. You can always look O line,

480
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: D line. We look at their what they've done in

481
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,959
Speaker 1: free agency with the trade. They got Brian Burns, So

482
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: they've got a pretty nice little pairing there with Kaevon

483
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: Thibodeau and Brian Burns coming off the edges. I like that.

484
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 1: I like that combination that they have. Plus they've still

485
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: got Ojilari there. Oh man, all right, I'm gonna I'm

486
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: gonna take someone to play next to Dexter Lawrence on

487
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: the inside. Here. I could look at corner, but I'm

488
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 1: gonna go with Byron Murphy here from Texas. I'm gonna

489
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: put him in an inside. I told you some of

490
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: these names are going. It's gonna get interesting once we

491
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of this thing book, all right.

492
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 2: So we got Byron Murphy. So now we have the

493
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans. Tennessee Titans.

494
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 3: I need a hard playing guy on the interior, or

495
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 3: do I need someone on the extray?

496
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: So now I'm.

497
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: Looking they need they've need an edge rusher.

498
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 3: Oh no, edge rusher. So yeah, no, they didn't they

499
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 3: need an edge rusher. So dj I'm I'm kind of

500
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 3: stuck here. So we're getting down to it. So let's

501
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 3: go with Chop Robinson coming off, Chop Robinson goes, so

502
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 3: who'd you take? Who'd you take for the giant?

503
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: So I had Byron Murphy, you just took Chopp. So

504
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: Chop Robinson, you got going to Tennessee. I'm gonna come

505
00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 1: back with Atlanta. Atlanta edge rusher is uh is definitely

506
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: a place you can go here. They we've seen some

507
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: edge rreshers go flying off the board. I mean, I'm

508
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,719
Speaker 1: telling you this thing disappears on us quick. The edge rushers.

509
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 1: Where I wanted to go but you took the one

510
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: that I would have taken.

511
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: There.

512
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: All right, I'm taking Atlanta. I'm taking Cooper de Gene. Oh,

513
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: I can play him. I think he can play nickel.

514
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: I think he could be your big nickel. I think

515
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: he could hold up outside of the corner if you

516
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 1: needed him too. He could play safety if you want

517
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: him to. He's got that positional flex there. I feel

518
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: okay about that.

519
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 2: All right?

520
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: So now wait, buck, we are only on pick nine

521
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: and it's already gotten out of control here.

522
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 3: And okay, so let's let's do review. So we've got

523
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 3: Dallas Turner for charges, took an edge rush.

524
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: They took verse. Then when we had Byron Murphy's gone,

525
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: Chopp Robinson's gone, and Cooper dejen.

526
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: Oh, man, I can double my pleasure. I can double

527
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 2: my pleasure.

528
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 3: You left me, You left me a pass rush into

529
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 3: your Okay, So now let's go.

530
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: All right.

531
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 3: So with the Chicago Bears, man, we just have to

532
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 3: continue to add to a D line.

533
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 2: Let's go. And it's so early, but yeah, let's go.

534
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,959
Speaker 2: They did a good places. Let's go Johnny. Let's go

535
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 2: Johnny Newton coming off the board right now at number nine.

536
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 3: So I got an inside guy, an outside guy, and

537
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 3: the New York Jets are now on the clock at.

538
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: Ten yep buck. Okay, the Jets just made the trade

539
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 1: for Reddick. So they've got Reddick. They've got Jermaine Johnson,

540
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: They've got John Franklin Myers. They've also got Will McDonald,

541
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: last year's first round pick. So we've got a lot

542
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 1: of edge signed kinlawng free agency to go along with Quinn.

543
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: They still have Solomon Thomas and their defensive fronts in

544
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: really good shape. You've got Quincy Williams coming off All

545
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: Pro season. You got c. J. Mosley, who's the leader.

546
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: You've got a great secondary with corners. I mean they've

547
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: got I mean, they've got everything covered here. They've got Nickolaise,

548
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: They've got outside guys.

549
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 3: This is a team that sounds like a past sounds like, yeah,

550
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 3: that's not need a lot.

551
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: On defense here. So I just go back to the

552
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: defensive line. I'm gonna go back to the defensive linebook,

553
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: and uh, I know they love quickness, they love get

554
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 1: off guys that can get up the field. I mean,

555
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: it's an embarrassment of riches up front. I'm gonna take

556
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: Brandon Fisk with the tenth pick.

557
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 2: That's where look at you, look at you over here.

558
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: He just plays up field. He can get upfield in

559
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: the interior of him and Quinnon getting after it.

560
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 2: Mmmm.

561
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a bleep show when we get

562
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: to the bottom of the first round.

563
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 2: By the way, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

564
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: Tells you this is an offensive draft after if you

565
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: didn't know.

566
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: So, DJ, We're now down here and I'm sitting here,

567
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: I'm the Minnesota Vikings and I need d line. But man,

568
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: we're already kind of picked pretty good, pretty clean.

569
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: I'm looking at dB. I'm looking at a high I

570
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 2: Q dB who could really.

571
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: Kind of help us, you know, DJ, I just think

572
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: the the slot package.

573
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go and get Mikey Sandra Steel.

574
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: Right, we are all.

575
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: Because a nickel.

576
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 3: We're going to get a Nickel corner that can play

577
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 3: and looking on for most traditional things, we'll get an

578
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: outside guy or whatever. But I'm just gonna go and

579
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 3: get a specialist for the Minnesota Vikings. Mikey Sandri still

580
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 3: being able to play in Bland Floria system because it's

581
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 3: a good tactic. Come off to the edge, you can

582
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: do a lot and that covers zero system that the

583
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: Vikings employ.

584
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I'm gonna go. Then I'm up next,

585
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: and I know that some of these other corners are

586
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead of this guy because he did not

587
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: run well. I wish you would have ran faster. I

588
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: loved him on tape. He's gonna end up, I believe

589
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: with his profile, is going to go in the second round,

590
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: even though I have him kind of in that late

591
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: first round on my list. But I'm gonna take Nisraycus

592
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: straw here with the next pick with the Denver Broncos

593
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: corner from Missouri.

594
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 2: Oh look at you.

595
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: I wanted him to run faster.

596
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: Buck.

597
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: There was reports on Twitter from the pro day that

598
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: he ran in the mid four fours, and then I

599
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: saw the numbers from the teams and then talking to

600
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: corroborating that with a couple other teams, it was still

601
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: in the mid four five, so that you know, ran

602
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: four to five one at the combine. It was okay,

603
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: but I was hoping he was gonna get in the

604
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: four fours. He didn't, but still a really good football player, Yeah.

605
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: A really good football player. And you know I'm the

606
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 3: Las Vegas Raiders. I guy Tom t LESCo likes really

607
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: good football players. We have some guys I need to

608
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 3: check out chart. I'm sitting here. I know we have

609
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 3: a huge need on the the outside. We we kind

610
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: of took care of the interior defensive line by getting

611
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: Christian Wilkinson.

612
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: I still got a bunch of corners. So you've got Wiggins.

613
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: I know I got Nate Wiggins. I know I'm sitting here,

614
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: but Wiggins DJ. So here's the thing about Wiggins and

615
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 3: why I have a tough time. Wiggins is one hundred

616
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: and seventy three hundred and seventy five pounds, Like.

617
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: Can I put on a little white for his pro day?

618
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: So we got up to he's in the one.

619
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So okay, so here's what we can do.

620
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 3: Well, We'll take him because he fasts and the fist

621
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: of normal raider profile. Yeah, man, like I got him.

622
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: I got Jack Jack Jones. I just feel small on

623
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: the outside when I'm playing. But I'm gonna take Nate

624
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: Wiggins here with the vegas rate.

625
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: Okay. That leaves me with the Saints. On the Saints,

626
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: I know we've you know, we've talked about what they've done.

627
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: They went out and got Chase Young. You've got cam Jordan,

628
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: who's been you know, an unbelievable Hall of Fame career.

629
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: But how much time does he have left? Man, I'm

630
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna give him. I'm gonna give them the

631
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: guy that has a little Cam Jordan to him. I'm

632
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: gonna give him Arius Robinson here from Missouri Saints.

633
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a good pick, a good cop. I like that. Okay,

634
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: So now we have to go traits. We're the Indianapolis Colts.

635
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 3: We're looking at defense, and man, we need corners in

636
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 3: the worst way. And I'm sitting here trying to find

637
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: corner that would fit I could go. I guess I'm

638
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: gonna take kool aid off the board right now. Kool

639
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 3: Ai McKinstry went to the Indianapolis Colts right here at

640
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: pick fifteen.

641
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: Kool Ai goes there. That means I am up next

642
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: with Seattle coming off the edge. They got boy a

643
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: mafe young player, Darnell Taylor who's got some traits Nuels

644
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: who played great last year. Derek Hall is interesting. They've

645
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: got a lot of a lot of young guys there. Obviously,

646
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: with Witherspoon and Woolen, they got two young corners Witherspoon

647
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: on the inside. Sign Rayshawn Jenkins in free agency to

648
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: go along with Julian Love. Julian loves a good safety.

649
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: I could look at another corner potentially for them. Corner

650
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: board starts to starts to fall apart a little bit here.

651
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: They don't really need an edge rusher. Screw it. I'm

652
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: gonna take I'm just gonna take again over that love.

653
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take Marshawn Kneeland on the edge, even

654
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: though you know it's not not really a glaring need

655
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: for them. I just love the player, so I'm gonna

656
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: take him here. You know how easy this was. You

657
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: know how many wide receivers we had to choose from,

658
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: and when we did the offense, we could just fifteen

659
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: whiteouts in the first round.

660
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: No big deal, Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean definitely.

661
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: So now all right, so I am.

662
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: I am the Jacksonville Jaguars. I am in need of

663
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: a few different positions. I need someone up front, I

664
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: need someone on the edge. Okay, let's see who my

665
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: age defenders are that are still enough? I got Chris braswell,

666
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: Isaac Nope. I need a more proven guy defensive tackle.

667
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: The guys that are on the board right now are

668
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: not necessarily popping off. Let's go so my interior players.

669
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: I oh, okay, so I can take Chris Jenkins here.

670
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: I want to do that because I value inside over outside.

671
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 3: So let's take Chris Jenkins with the Jacksonville jack bars.

672
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 1: That leaves me Cincinnati. As I look at the Bengals

673
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: here about Geno Stone overpaid him some cash. I like

674
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: Logan Wilson, I like Jermaine Pratt. Like where they are there,

675
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: they've got edge heldon rankins. I might go DT again

676
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: here like you just did. And yeah, this is interesting.

677
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: So a couple of different guys I have closely graded,

678
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go do Rooke Aurora Row. I love

679
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: saying that, now, okay DT. Yeah, I actually have him

680
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: and Chris Jenkins touching each other. But to me, I

681
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: thought both those guys were gonna go, you know, bottom two,

682
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: maybe even top of three for one of them. But

683
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: they were. That's kind of where they were outside my

684
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: top fifty. But that's where you get on this defense

685
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: only mock draft. I said, we're gonna have some guys

686
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: going in the third round. They're gonna be in the

687
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: first round of this mock draft. I think we're there.

688
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're already there, and so it speaks to like,

689
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: what's gonna be available.

690
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 3: I am now on the clock as the Los Angeles Rams,

691
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 3: we're still reeling from the loss of Aaron Donald. We

692
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: know we cannot find his replacement in the draft.

693
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: Well, I like where I'm at.

694
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: With Ernest Jones, but I can't get better on the inside.

695
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 3: So now you know what I'm I'm gonna take a

696
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 3: good player. I'm gonna plug him in there. Let's go

697
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 3: with Peytons and let's put him alongside Ernest Jones, and

698
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: those two guys will man my entry to on our

699
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: nickel package.

700
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: So Peyton Wilson at nineteen.

701
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna I'm gonna stay at the linebacker position.

702
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay at the linebacker position here, and I'm

703
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: gonna go with Edrin Cooper. Edrin Cooper to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

704
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play him next to Patrick Queen and we're

705
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: gonna have some major speed here at the second level.

706
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 2: All right.

707
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: So here we go to Miami Dolphins. Ooh, dej we

708
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 3: are Yeah, I'm looking for I told you, Okay, So

709
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins. We lost Christian Wilkins. That really go back.

710
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: There's no one and j mmmm mmmmmm. We're down here

711
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: trying to find a player that I.

712
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 3: Shouldn't say that, not being disrespectful to the players that

713
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: are on the board. I'm just trying to think, just

714
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 3: trying to trying to figure out who we can find

715
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 3: on interior.

716
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: Let's do this. He's not in the same plass.

717
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 3: He can't give me the playmaking ability, but you can

718
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: never go wrong with a big plugger on the inside.

719
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: Let's take to and Andre Sweat right here, I'm.

720
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: Up with the Philadelphia Eagles, and I'm gonna take a

721
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: personal favorite of mine, just because I'm a big fan

722
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: of the way he plays. They need a corner and

723
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get him one. I'm gonna go with

724
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: Max Melton from.

725
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: Oh I like that picture.

726
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: Who's explosive and tough and it's a really good player.

727
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that pick.

728
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: And go wrong taking good players Minnesota Vikings. You know,

729
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: the one position that is not going off the board

730
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 3: right now has been safety, And yeah, I'm sitting here.

731
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 3: I know Harrison Smith is getting older, so let's get

732
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 3: him a safety not in the same mold, but a

733
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: really good player who can get picks. Let's go with

734
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: Tylan Newban from Minnesota.

735
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 2: Yep.

736
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: Talking to a bunch of teams this weekend. He's pretty unanimous.

737
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: Everybody I've talked to has him as the top safety.

738
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: Debates on how when that safety comes off the board,

739
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: but that seems to be pretty unanimous, and I have

740
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: him as a top safety as well, for whatever that's worth.

741
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: All right, Dallas Cowboys are on the clock. Cowboys could

742
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: be looking at corner as well, could be looking at

743
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. So when I look at my options that

744
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: are left here, mourners, I'll tell you what. This guy

745
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: is a good football player. I know he did not

746
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: run well, but he just has a way of making plays,

747
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: getting guys on the ground, is always around the football.

748
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: He brings some toughness. I wish he was faster, trust me,

749
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: and he's probably gonna end up going in the third

750
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: round because he ran slow. Obama. Go with Kamari Lasser

751
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: from Georgia.

752
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 2: Yep.

753
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: All right, here we go, go, pack go. Green Bay

754
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 3: Packers are on the clock. Let's go back to Okay.

755
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: So when think about the Green Bay Packers, they've they've

756
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 3: really done an overall, they're they're pretty good on defense.

757
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: You bring it Xavier McKinny over you think about what

758
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: they've done the last couple of years, being able to

759
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: kind of fortify the front line, so they appear to

760
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 3: be set there. Linebacker is a position that could be

761
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 3: of need of interest, not Deveandre Campbell.

762
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: Let him go.

763
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 3: You have Quaiy Walker, but Quay Walker needs a playmate,

764
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: So let's go with Junior Colson from Michigan.

765
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: That was my next pack. That was my pick coming

766
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: up next. I was gonna take him with Tampa. So

767
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: he's off the board. So then I'm gonna go back

768
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: to this stack of corners here. Oh you know what

769
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Javon

770
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: Bullard from Georgia. Who can who can be a day

771
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: day one starter at Nickel if you want them to,

772
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: we can play safety, you can use them in a

773
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: lot of different areas. Would give them kind of another

774
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: versatile piece to go along with Antoine Winfield.

775
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 2: Okay, so we are at the Arizona Cardinals. We're sitting here.

776
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: We have needs on the defensive line and in the

777
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 3: secondary defensive line. Man we we've kind of been picked

778
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 3: clean when it comes to what is available in the

779
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: D line with the edge rushers I'm looking for.

780
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: Not really, I've got my guy qued up for the

781
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: next pick. You better not take him.

782
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 3: I mean, it would be great for me to go

783
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 3: R T R right now, and just I'm kind of

784
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: put him in. I think we're just gonna have to

785
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 3: do a.

786
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 2: Little Mac Jones the roll Tide role.

787
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 3: Chris Braswell, come on down to the Arizona court.

788
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: All right, you're gonna go Chris Braswell there, I'm gonna

789
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: come back and go DT with the Buffalo Bills can

790
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,479
Speaker 1: add at that spot, and I'm gonna go. I'm gonna

791
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: go to big Mason Smith here from LSU. I's got

792
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: some love around the league. He's enormous, played well as

793
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: a freshman, got hurt, wasn't quite the same guy. But

794
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: betting on the upside there.

795
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: Okay, So now we are the Detroit Lions. Hmm, so

796
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions.

797
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 3: I think about Aaron Gland, I think about what they

798
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: want to do on the outside, think about having you know, DJ.

799
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: This guy kind of.

800
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 3: Shows up on tape. He's got one of Lance's guys.

801
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 3: So let's drop down and let's take for the Detroit Lions.

802
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 3: How about Renardo Green in Florida State, fast guy?

803
00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: Put him down there.

804
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: All right, you're gonna go Ronardo Green. I'm gonna come

805
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: back here with the Baltimore Ravens.

806
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: That means it's gonna be a good player.

807
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: Usually the good player kind of falls to him here

808
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: like versatile guys. Okay, I'm gonna take Cole Bishop Safety

809
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 1: from Utah. Oh yeah, to me, fun, fun little nugget

810
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: there when you look at the secondary that he'd be

811
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: going into, get a chance to uh, to go play

812
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: with Marcus Williams. So you've got the obviously, you've got

813
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: the big time dude from from Notre Dame who you

814
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: can play anywhere on the field. But Marcus Williams was

815
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: a Utah guy. Right, I'm not making that up. As

816
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 1: I'm scrolling through that, I'm like, I swear he was Utah

817
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: coming out. Obviously. Yeah, you've got cal Hampton there. But

818
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: let's go shopping back at Utah again. Let's go get

819
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: a versatile player athletics to use to move him around.

820
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: Can play some nickel backer if you wanted him to.

821
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about that. You think about what the success

822
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: that they've had.

823
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: We Utai guys Eric Weddle spent a little time to

824
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 3: play pretty well for them, this and mess stuff.

825
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: So okay, I'm digging it all right.

826
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 3: You got goo, Yeah, you got a Niners. And I

827
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: know that they have to be able to play on

828
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 3: the outside. They want physical players, they want to be

829
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: able to kind of get it. This name keeps coming

830
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 3: up and so I'm gonna give it a little love.

831
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 3: How about the Niners taking TJ. Tampa from Iowa State.

832
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: That leaves me with the Kansas City Chiefs. I'm going

833
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: to go somebody who I think has got some real quickness,

834
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: can get up the field and can rush from the inside.

835
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Dwayne Carter from Duke. There's a

836
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: DT here for the last pick in the first round.

837
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: So I told you, man, when we got through the offense,

838
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: going through this exercise we finished, I still had tons

839
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: of dudes that I could have gone with there this

840
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: one buck, we barely get out of the top ten,

841
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: and you're like, WHOA like this?

842
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

843
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 3: I feel bad now. I want to make sure that

844
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 3: our listeners don't understand. Look, we're not sliding into the

845
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 3: players that are available. But man, it makes you think

846
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 3: when you think about normal first round talent, it should

847
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: be easy when it pops off. I just think it

848
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 3: talks about just where the strength of this draft lies.

849
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 3: It lies on the offense. It is one that is

850
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 3: very deep at offensive tackle. We think about wide receiver,

851
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 3: what they bring. On defense, the depth comes into secondary,

852
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 3: particularly at cornerback. When you look at the other marquee positions,

853
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 3: edge rusher, it falls off quickly. Defensive tackle pastors and

854
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 3: defensive tackles falls off quickly.

855
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: Linebackers.

856
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 3: They're a handful of guys, But really the strength of

857
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 3: the defensive part of the draft is in the secondary.

858
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: And I think this exercise that we did having a

859
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: mock draft, a first round mock draft with all defensive players,

860
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 3: I think it highlights it.

861
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 2: I meanj we talked about ten, eleven, twelve dbs come.

862
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: Off the board is a ton and I think we're

863
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 3: going to see those runs like that.

864
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: We see a lot of dbs come up to the

865
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: board the first two days.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that it's helpful again going through

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Speaker 1: this is because when you start stacking it up and

868
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Speaker 1: you start looking at all the teams that have needs

869
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: at corner like a name to me, like, I have

870
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Speaker 1: to update my top fifty. I got to turn it

871
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,479
Speaker 1: in by tomorrow morning. I think I'm gonna put Max

872
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: Melton in there because you start looking at it and

873
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: you're like, you know what, everybody needs corners And now

874
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: I've got a guy when you look at his card

875
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: and it says five eleven, one hundred and eighty seven

876
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: pounds who ran four three nine can play inside? Can

877
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: play outside? Is fluid and tough. Like you start when

878
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: you start stacking things and looking at it and you're like, well,

879
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: everybody thinks this guy is going to be their third

880
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: round pick. Well, spoiler alert, he ain't gonna be there

881
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: like this this you know that profile. And when you

882
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: look around the league at all the needs that teams

883
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: have at that position, like a guy like that. That's

884
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Speaker 1: why doing this type of exercise helps helps us out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really does. It gives us that.

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00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 3: So yeah, I want to bring up something that's been

887
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: kind of buzzing on the Twitter verse, and like most

888
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: of the people spent most of the weekend watching hoops,

889
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 3: watching March Madness, even though my beloved tar Hears went

890
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: down I had to sit there and you can imagine

891
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 3: having spent some time in North Carolina, just the anks

892
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: and the pain on my face watching NC State and

893
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: do battle it out to be the final participant in

894
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 3: the Final four. It is like a tug of war

895
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 3: of just like, man, what can you live with more?

896
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: But during that game, I think the one thing that

897
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 3: comes up. Everyone is now suddenly talking about DJ Burns

898
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 3: and what DJ Burns could be as an NFL prospect.

899
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Speaker 3: Peter Schrager has put it out. I got Jim Naggy

900
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: put it out first on Friday Night, and so Dj.

901
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 3: When you just think about the big man for NC

902
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: State playing inside, if you had to do a projection,

903
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 3: because sometimes we do that, like they'll ask us to

904
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: look at guys from other sports, basketball players and whatever.

905
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: When you just think about the big guy from NC State,

906
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 3: if you've had a chance to watch him, like what

907
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 3: comes to mind and what position would you project them at?

908
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: If someone wanted to to know if he could make

909
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 3: the transition to.

910
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: The next level tackle offensive tackle, because I just don't like,

911
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: to me, there's a temperament that comes with playing defensive line.

912
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what the basketball side of things if

913
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: I would. You know, I don't know if he's wired

914
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: like that, but I could tell he's got great feet,

915
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: so I can you know, you can work with that

916
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle. Jason Peters. Oh, and just remember he

917
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: was covering kicks. He was covering kicks when he first

918
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: got in the NFL. Uh. And then obviously he's you know,

919
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: probably gonna be a Hall of Fame player. But that

920
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: that to me, was the name that came into my mind.

921
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: That was the position I thought of.

922
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Speaker 2: Now, look, look it's great.

923
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: I do believe that the one thing that we've always seen,

924
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 3: like basketball players have been able to make the transition.

925
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 3: Most of the time we see those basketball players kind

926
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 3: of transition to being tight ends. But the tight ends

927
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 3: is rightness to the offensive tackle. And when I look

928
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 3: at DJ Burns and I look at his footwork, one

929
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 3: I think people have to understand this dude was the

930
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Speaker 3: third rated basketball player in the state of South Carolina

931
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Speaker 3: when he came out right behind Zion Williamson.

932
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Speaker 2: He goes to Tennessee, that makes his way to Winthrop

933
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Speaker 2: in NC State.

934
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Speaker 3: The footwork there is fantastic, and you're right, Dj, when

935
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Speaker 3: you're projecting a guy from a different sport to play football.

936
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Speaker 3: It is all about the athletes and footwork. I do

937
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 3: believe his feet would give him a chance. It would

938
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Speaker 3: take some time and you would have to be invested

939
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Speaker 3: in the project. But just given the weight that he's

940
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Speaker 3: played throughout the year and just looking at how nimble

941
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Speaker 3: he is. Oh, if I'm gonna take a flying thoward dart,

942
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: I absolutely with throw a dart at DJ Burns at

943
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 3: offensive tack.

944
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Speaker 2: It was something that was buzzed on Twitter, so I thought,

945
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Speaker 2: I bring it fun.

946
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: No, it's fun. That's a good way to wrap this

947
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,959
Speaker 1: thing up. Man. The other one, I've got a chance

948
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: to see San Diego State a little bit. They've got

949
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: a kid, Jason Ledie who I think he's listed me.

950
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: He might be listed at six' nine, but maybe he's

951
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: more six seven. But man, he is put together and

952
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: he's an athlete. I don't know if he's you know,

953
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: what the NBA looks like for him, but he's you know,

954
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: he's a senior. He is, he's an athlete who's dominant

955
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: player there at San Diego State. He has been really good.

956
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: But those thoughts come to mind when IM watch the

957
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: NCAA tournaments. Who are these guys that could play.

958
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 3: So for me, DJ, I am always looking at guards,

959
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: point guards, defensive guards.

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00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: So like the kid from Houston that's braying his ankle.

961
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: Shit, yeah, I saw him play live this year.

962
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 2: DJ.

963
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: To me, he's muscled up man.

964
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Speaker 2: He is a He's a bumping run press corner.

965
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Speaker 3: First day, I'm like, hey, man, just go play man

966
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 3: and man, just go play zig zag, just like we

967
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 3: should do in basketball.

968
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 2: You just go stay in front of.

969
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: Him, turn them, turn them.

970
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 3: He absolutely could go and play press corner at the

971
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Speaker 3: next level because this footwork and his toughness is outstanding.

972
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Speaker 2: He would have a chance to be able to make

973
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Speaker 2: a roster as a dB.

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Speaker 1: That's fun stuff, man, all right. I want to encourage everybody.

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Speaker 1: If you've made it this far through the episode, appreciate

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Speaker 1: you hanging with us, and if you haven't already, leave

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Speaker 1: us a rating and a review on on Apple Podcasts

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Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your podcast. We do appreciate those,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see you next time. Right here on Move

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Speaker 1: the sticks.

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Speaker 3: You want to want to