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Speaker 2: Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on

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Speaker 2: All these networks lying about the people, the people have

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Speaker 1: I know you don't like hearing that. I know you

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Speaker 2: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of

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Speaker 1: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 2: If that answer is to save my country, this country.

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Speaker 1: Will be saved. Or use your host, Stephen K.

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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, two December and the year Verler twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Big day, the Cabinet meeting at the Waite House eleven thirty,

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Speaker 1: At eleven we'll dip in and out of that. We've

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Speaker 2: Turning points going to join us about what's happening in

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Speaker 1: It's game day, Met, tell us what we got to do.

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Speaker 1: Deploy your resources here.

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Speaker 5: Sir, Yes, sir Steve. Thank you so much, sir for

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Speaker 5: having me on election day here in Tennessee seventh Congressional District.

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Speaker 5: I need everybody to get out and vote. We are up.

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Speaker 5: We had a great early voting result that we're not

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Speaker 5: and that happens when everybody gets out and votes today,

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Speaker 5: every Republican, every freedom loving American in the Tennessee seventh

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Speaker 5: Congressional District. Balls are open now. They close at seven pm.

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Speaker 5: If you're in line by seven pm, you can vote.

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Speaker 5: They've got to let you vote. And just asking everyone

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Speaker 5: important of an election. I was on with President Trump

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Speaker 5: So I need everybody today and I'm so grateful to

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Speaker 2: In fact, it was important enough to speak or the

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Speaker 5: Correct, Yes, sir, the Speaker Johnson was with me all

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Speaker 5: day yesterday. We went to at least ten events. We

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Speaker 5: He was on the Tell rally as well. And it's

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Speaker 5: We are up, but we're going to stay up when

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Speaker 5: It's a little cold out today here, but it's not raining.

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Speaker 5: You just got to bundle up, be safe, make a plan,

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Speaker 2: Matt, where do people go if they want more information?

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Speaker 5: My website is Mattfirtn dot com. That's Matt m A

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Speaker 5: It has all the information that you'd need your polling

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Speaker 5: election information. More information about our campaign, please go to

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Speaker 1: What's your social media?

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Speaker 2: You have a lot of fans here in the war

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Speaker 1: Okay, folks, you got your marching orders.

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Speaker 2: Be a force multiplier today for Matt van Ebsen, Tennessee seven.

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Speaker 2: It's a must win. Matt, with your shield or on

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Speaker 5: Sir, Yes, sir, thank you so much. Have a wonderful day.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Brother Matt Vanipps combat veteranal, multiple tours, a great guy.

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Speaker 1: It's a must win.

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Speaker 2: So let's be forced multipliers today with the content and

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Speaker 2: and take everybody on your list with you. Let's pivot

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Speaker 3: Sir, Hey, Steve, good to be on here again.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so, right now, Indiana is really at the epicenter.

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Speaker 3: We have an opportunity now with the new map.

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Speaker 7: The proposed map is out and it carves out what

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Speaker 2: Some of those actually are kind of personal. I mean,

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Speaker 2: What do you say to people in Indiana? What does

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Speaker 7: I mean, the bottom line is, if we lose the

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Speaker 3: They're going to put up massive roadblocks.

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Speaker 7: They're going to force out a lot of things that

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Speaker 7: A decontrolled House could easily vote to impeach Trump and

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Speaker 7: I mean, one Republican said to one of our activists

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Speaker 7: There is no reason an nine to map should not pass.

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Speaker 1: No, the Hoosiers are the Hoosiers.

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Speaker 3: When you're over the target, you become the target.

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Speaker 2: and this is read this redistioning. Fights are going to

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Speaker 1: To win them.

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Speaker 2: It's like getting into the college football playoffs. There's certain

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, they're understanding the long term effects here. It's chess,

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Speaker 7: I mean petty stuff like this. And we're even hearing

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Speaker 7: We have some fantastic Turning Point chapter leaders in Indiana

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Speaker 2: Garrett, one more time, Where do people go to participate

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Speaker 2: about Turning Point and what you guys are working on

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Speaker 7: Yes, we would love to have every freedom fighting patriot

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Speaker 7: you feel called to participate in this, please do. It's

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Speaker 7: tpaction dot com slash Rally Indiana. Our event, our rally

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Speaker 7: are all in for Indiana. Event is Friday, December fifth,

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Speaker 7: They are fighting on the front lines and we want

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Speaker 7: you there too. Tpaction dot com slash Rally Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Garrett, what is your what's your personal social media coordinates?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Follow me on Twitter, b gals WI. I call

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Speaker 1: Thank you, brother, appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, great team, Charlie Kirk, incredible, incredible team over returning

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Speaker 1: Nothing can be higher. Dave Brat's with me, Megan Basher.

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Speaker 2: I'm an interesting piece in Axios about empathies being turned

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Speaker 1: This is big today.

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Speaker 2: turning point rallies. Bratt, your thoughts on both of.

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Speaker 8: Those, Yeah, well, I think it's important what you just said.

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Speaker 8: By large margins.

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Speaker 4: And that sends very good news and good messaging across

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Speaker 4: If you want to see what's at stake, right, Voting

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Speaker 8: Go out to Fox News right now.

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Speaker 4: You got a choice between God and no God at

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Speaker 1: Of in the God belt. Oklahoma is the God Belt.

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Speaker 2: How important I think young people are awakening to the

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Speaker 2: This audience knows it because you put your people would

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Speaker 2: This is the way you get guys like Trump into office.

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Speaker 2: Why is reditioning so big and why is it important?

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Speaker 4: Well, just empirically, you know, turning point was responsible for

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Speaker 8: They're playing a key role.

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Speaker 10: That's the the empathy steering mechanism. It's a steering whill

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Speaker 10: National Association of Evangelicals. It's it's the largest association of

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Speaker 10: evangelical churches in the world. Their immigration arm is World Relief.

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Speaker 10: They have taken something like three hundred and thirty million

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Speaker 10: dollars from the federal government since twenty twenty one to

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Speaker 10: resettle quote unquote refugees. In twenty twenty one, they took

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Speaker 10: fifty six million to resettle refugees, including those from Afghanistan,

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Speaker 10: including the shooter of those two National Guards people. So

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Speaker 10: after the day before that shooting, President Trump announced that

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Speaker 10: there would be additional vetting. So he announced a while

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Speaker 10: ago there would be additional vetting of the Afghani refugees.

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Speaker 10: The day before that, World Relief issued a statement condemning

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Speaker 10: that decision, and in fact, their VP, Matthew Sorens, who

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Speaker 10: is heavily active in evangelical churches. You will see him

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Speaker 10: often on the weekends giving presentations. They send materials out

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Speaker 10: to churches saying you must welcome the stranger. He called

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Speaker 10: it a needless re traumatizing of the Afghani refugees. The

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Speaker 10: very next day, the Afghan terrorists killed two National guardsmen.

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Speaker 10: So that's how this empathy debate is working within the church.

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Speaker 2: So they figured they've pulled some verticals, the whole gay

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Speaker 2: rights thing LGBTQ, plus they've got climate change BLM and immigration.

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Speaker 1: Is this are they saying that Christians.

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Speaker 2: Are not empathetic enough, have to be more empathetic in

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Speaker 2: getting people to be more empathetic, not compassionate, to drive them.

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Speaker 2: As you've said before, the kind of this woke or

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Speaker 2: progressive evangelical Christianity.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's exactly what it is. And keep in mind though,

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Speaker 10: that they set the terms for who you're supposed to

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Speaker 10: feel empathetic toward. So you're supposed to feel empathetic toward

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Speaker 10: the man who claims he's a woman who wants access

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Speaker 10: to women's private spaces, but you're not supposed to feel

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Speaker 10: empathetic to the women who feel threatened by this. You're

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Speaker 10: supposed to feel empathetic for the BLM activists who are

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Speaker 10: insistent that hands up, don't shoot happened, but you're not

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Speaker 10: supposed to feel empathetic for the police officer who has

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Speaker 10: now had his reputation destroyed over a lie. And you

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Speaker 10: see this again and again. You're supposed to feel empathetic

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Speaker 10: for the illegal immigrants who have come here, who are

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Speaker 10: bringing trafficking issues, who are bringing crime and drug issues,

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Speaker 10: but you're not supposed to feel empathetic for the communities

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Speaker 10: that are being impacted by this, or for the guardsmen

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Speaker 10: who have been killed because we did not sufficiently vet

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Speaker 10: these immigrants as they were coming here. So they're really

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Speaker 10: directing you to say, here's how who you are supposed

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Speaker 10: to feel empathetic for, and you're not supposed to ask

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Speaker 10: simple questions of justice or truth when you do it.

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Speaker 10: And you know it's so Marxian, because that was Marx right.

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Speaker 10: He supposedly felt this empathy for all of mankind, but

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Speaker 10: he didn't even take care of his own family.

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Speaker 4: Deve Brett, your thoughts, well, my thoughts are Megan, just

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Speaker 4: hit it out of the park. That was brilliant as usual.

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Speaker 4: I'll just add a couple footnotes. The left brings these

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Speaker 4: conversations up only to damage Evangelical Protestant Christian thought, right,

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Speaker 4: that's when it comes up. So when these articles are

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Speaker 4: written and they say empathy is a central teaching in

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Speaker 4: the Bible, well, actually it's not a central teaching in

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Speaker 4: the Bible. And the term values is not even used

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Speaker 4: in the Bible. Virtues is used sometimes, and I'll get

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Speaker 4: it that in a second. But the key terms in

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Speaker 4: the Christian teachings in Jesus are, first of all, the

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Speaker 4: Kingdom of God, repent. You'll never hear morning Mika and

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Speaker 4: Joe giving sermons on repent for the Kingdom of God

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Speaker 4: is at hand. The second major concept of Jesus is

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Speaker 4: called the Gospel, and the third is obedience to God,

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Speaker 4: the Father, Almighty Right. And so what Megan is getting at,

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Speaker 4: and this is one of my favorite books after the

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Speaker 4: Bible is Closing the American Mind by Alan and Bloom

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Speaker 4: and values along with empathy. Empathy is a modern psychological term.

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Speaker 4: Values similarly are subjective. You want to know what's not subjective?

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Speaker 4: God and the Good. Here's old Plato over here in

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Speaker 4: my picture pointing up the argument of the Greeks and

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Speaker 4: reason was the good is objective. The goal of modern

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Speaker 4: liberalism and the leftist is to get everything to be subjective,

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Speaker 4: because then it leads to openness.

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Speaker 8: And what does openness lead to?

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Speaker 4: The Open Society foundation and George Soros, So Megan teed

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Speaker 4: it all up.

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Speaker 8: It's all connected, and there's the line of thought.

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Speaker 1: The road to pradition.

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Speaker 2: Hangover second, Meghanbashion, the young Meganbashiam is going to stick

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Speaker 2: with us and Dave Brett, we're gonna take a short

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Speaker 2: commercial break. Also, the hearing we're getting up, the hearing

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Speaker 2: on the child protection over at Energy and Commerce.

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Speaker 1: Joe Allen is.

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Speaker 2: There and the activists. We'll get it all up with

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Speaker 2: the SOVIC from the Pentagon.

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Speaker 8: Next, here's your host, Stephen K.

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Speaker 4: Bat.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're force multipliers today in Tennessee. You're signing up

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Speaker 2: and pushing out the turning point rally Indianapolis on redistricting

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Speaker 2: on Friday. Jack Pisobics on join us at the Pentagon.

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Speaker 2: Grace and Moe have up right now. I think on

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Speaker 2: our other getter channel. Just go to Grace. She's putting

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Speaker 2: it out to the Posse. We're gonna have a side

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Speaker 2: channel follow the hearing. We'll dip in and out of that.

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Speaker 2: The hearing about child protection that's gonna become a big

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Speaker 2: part of this Internet amnesty build.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to get through that. We're stopping. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: that's there.

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Speaker 2: The activist, Joe Allen is there, Jack Psobrics at the Pentagon.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be a brief there Cabinet meeting eleven thirty. You're

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Speaker 2: gonna see it all. We're gonna juggle it all. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna get it done. Megan, you had a concept that

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Speaker 2: the Warren Posse loved last time you called the evangelical,

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Speaker 2: the hardcore conservative evangelical community, the lone bulwark oftentimes, and

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Speaker 2: a lot of these issues they've stood in the breach

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Speaker 2: over and over and over again, and obviously the progressive

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Speaker 2: left is targeted that group to try to you know,

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Speaker 2: chip away at it, but also to drive wedges in

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Speaker 2: the middle and have a big breakup. You can tell

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Speaker 2: this by the intensity they're doing it.

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Speaker 1: How can we respond.

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Speaker 2: Then to this empathy, this whole issue of they're using

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Speaker 2: empathy as the new battleground for Christians?

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Speaker 10: Ma'am, well, you know the first one. And this is

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Speaker 10: not just to plug my book, but I do go

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Speaker 10: into this in Shepherds for Sale how evangelical leaders treated

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Speaker 10: the truth for a leftist agenda. And that was a

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Speaker 10: very key piece of it, this empathy debate, because when

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Speaker 10: my book came out, the two subjects I was probably

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Speaker 10: most attacked on were one, how could I go after

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Speaker 10: world relief and these immigration NGOs that were supposedly doing

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Speaker 10: all this Christian work all over the world. How could

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Speaker 10: I expose those people that was so un christian? And

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Speaker 10: then the other one was the Title nine abuse issue.

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Speaker 10: They were attacking me for saying, well, wait a minute.

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Speaker 10: We need to investigate the truth claims of these women,

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Speaker 10: adult women who are claiming that they were abused when

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Speaker 10: they had relationships with adult men who were supposedly in

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Speaker 10: some sort of power over them. So, you know, the

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Speaker 10: first thing I had to do through that was simply say,

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Speaker 10: I'm not moving.

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Speaker 8: These are the facts.

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Speaker 10: I'm laying them out, and when the mob comes, and

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Speaker 10: sometimes it will, you simply cannot move. But what you

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Speaker 10: can take comfort in is knowing that eventually the truth

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Speaker 10: is going to come out and a whole lot of

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Speaker 10: people are suddenly going to pretend like they were on

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Speaker 10: your side all along. Because that's exactly what I've experienced

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Speaker 10: in the evangelical world now in terms of being the

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Speaker 10: lone bulwark. Something that's really important to know is that

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Speaker 10: the evangelical rank and file are much much more conservative

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Speaker 10: than their leadership class. And that's consistent whether it's the

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Speaker 10: Southern Baptist Convention, the Presbyterian Church in America, the Anglicans,

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Speaker 10: you just see it again and again. Leadership class much

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Speaker 10: more liberal, and that's because they're being inculcated in these

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Speaker 10: things like the empathetic discussion in their seminaries, So they're

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Speaker 10: bringing this into their churches and it has had some effect,

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Speaker 10: but you know, it takes time to trickle down into

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Speaker 10: the pews. And so you know, the second thing I

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Speaker 10: want to say is what we're seeing right now is

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Speaker 10: what I'm terming the Great Rehab Tour. So all of

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Speaker 10: these evangelical luminaries who head seminaries or who are you know,

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Speaker 10: internationally known pastors, big best selling authors, they're now trying

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Speaker 10: to pretend that they were never over there promoting Black

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Speaker 10: Lives Matter, or they were never over there promoting Me

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Speaker 10: Too movement and things like that, the immigration movement. What

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Speaker 10: I want is that unless there is repentance, we can't

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Speaker 10: let this Great Rehab Tour happen because they will do

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Speaker 10: it again. There needs to be accountability. And so while

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Speaker 10: I'm not here, you know, trying to be a lady defarge,

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Speaker 10: trying to insist that everybody's head has to come off,

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Speaker 10: I'm not saying that. I am saying if they do

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Speaker 10: not recognize their error, then no, don't get to keep

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Speaker 10: their platform and their audience. You should still continue not

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Speaker 10: giving money and attention to those people. So you know,

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Speaker 10: that's a big component for me, is that if you

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Speaker 10: showed in the day of battle that you were going

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Speaker 10: to bend the knee, then you no longer get to

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Speaker 10: be trusted as a leader. You should no longer get

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Speaker 10: to occupy that leadership role in our movement. So now

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Speaker 10: that things have started to shift right and the overton

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Speaker 10: has moved, they're all kind of scrambling to get at

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Speaker 10: the front of the line again, and I don't want

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Speaker 10: to allow that. You know, there's a few who have

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Speaker 10: openly said I aired, I was wrong, I got caught

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Speaker 10: up in a moment. I'm a little more charitable with

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Speaker 10: those guys. But if they're just simply trying to reposition

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Speaker 10: without any acknowledgment of how they participated in this Black

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Speaker 10: Lives Matter madness, in this insistence that to love our

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Speaker 10: neighbor or to welcome the stranger meant that we had

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Speaker 10: to accept our own destruction, then no, I am not

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Speaker 10: willing to continue to let you be the voice and

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Speaker 10: the face of evangelical ideas.

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Speaker 2: Wow, and what a great literary reference, Leady Defarge, one

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Speaker 2: of the great characters in all literature from Tale of

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Speaker 2: Two Cities. And if you've ever seen the nineteen thirty

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Speaker 2: nine film, you will know exactly what Megan is talking about, Megan.

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Speaker 2: Where do people go to get your book, where they

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Speaker 2: get your writings, and where they keep up with you

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Speaker 2: on social media.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Shepherd's for Sale is a bit where I expose

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Speaker 10: many of these things. And it's important to know about

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Speaker 10: world relief because I would say they are integrally responsible

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Speaker 10: for what happened to those National guardsmen. So you can

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Speaker 10: find that anywhere books are sold Amazon, Target, Walmart. You

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Speaker 10: can find me on x AT at Meg Basham, and

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Speaker 10: you can find me on Instagram, where I don't hang

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Speaker 10: out quite as much, at journalist Meghan Basham.

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Speaker 1: Megan, thank you so much for joining us today. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, for driving and for driving the

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Speaker 2: conversation brat before we go to POSO at the Pentagon

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to dip into this hearing.

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Speaker 1: On Capitol Hill. Meghan's solution here your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think she spot on and if you'll notice,

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Speaker 4: she's following one of the cores of Jesus that I mentioned,

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Speaker 4: which is repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand.

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Speaker 8: You don't get it every which way right.

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Speaker 4: Nietzsche came up with the concept of values and the

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Speaker 4: modern conception is your values my values.

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Speaker 8: Let's just agree to disagree.

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Speaker 4: Well, the great Catholic tradition, Saint Augustine, Aquinas Calvin Luther,

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Speaker 4: the Protestant Reformation, they had systems of thought that had

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Speaker 4: to be internally consistent. We're missing those these days, just

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Speaker 4: war theory. All these concepts were objective truths proven by

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Speaker 4: reason and in accord with the revelation in the Bible.

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Speaker 4: Those two things are great guardrails for Western civilization.

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Speaker 8: They have to all fit together.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, today when these teachers in the schools and one

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Speaker 4: thing Megan, you know, she basically mentioned the seminaries, but

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Speaker 4: ca to twelve education, they're indoctrinated by these dangerous helpers

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Speaker 4: called school counselors. All teach values, values clarification. Uh, you're okay,

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Speaker 4: I'm okay. We're not all okay, right, And so the

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Speaker 4: central doctrines of Christianity are embedded in the Kingdom of God.

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Speaker 4: Repent for the Kingdom of God's at hand, and keep

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Speaker 4: your ears open for that.

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Speaker 8: And and also when it comes to.

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Speaker 4: Values and virtues, Jesus also said the first command is

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Speaker 4: love God first. So whenever you get to this empathy

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Speaker 4: and everything about these modern values and virtues towards your neighbor.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't work if God the Father is not involved

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Speaker 4: in that conversation. If it's not God guiding those values

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Speaker 4: and virtues. God insures, along with human reason, that things

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Speaker 4: are systematic. Our founders all knew that James Madison, who

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Speaker 4: went to Princeton, wrote the Constitution.

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Speaker 2: No fund when it was when it was a religious school.

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Speaker 1: Hanger once say again, yes, we have breaking news. That's

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Speaker 1: a blockbuster.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: This is from Meredith le Hill are from Earthly at

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Speaker 2: the Hill. I think it is a new This is

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Speaker 2: House Armed Services Committee chair Mike Rogers, one of the cardinals,

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Speaker 2: tells Politico he's planning to release the NDAA text this Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Rogers said the moratorium on state artificial intelligence laws that

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Speaker 2: GOP leaders are pushing quote lost its momentum, doesn't have

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Speaker 2: enough support end quote. He doesn't believe it will be

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Speaker 2: included at this point before a vote next week.

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Speaker 1: Quote. I think that's gone unquote blockbuster.

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Speaker 2: This is the number one thing the tech bros are

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Speaker 2: trying to push, and it looks like right now from

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Speaker 2: one of the most senior guys on Capitol Hill and

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Speaker 2: the guy really.

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Speaker 1: In charge of the NDA. Mike Rodgers, it's done.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean it's done, as you know, in this game,

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Speaker 2: it only means we're going to go to the next round.

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Speaker 2: But right now their efforts to try to slide it

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Speaker 2: into the Big Beautiful Bill we killed their efforts to

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Speaker 2: try to slide it into NDAA. It looks like right

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Speaker 2: now for Mike Rodgers that it may be stopped, that

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Speaker 2: we're going to not go to the ramparts in this thing.

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Speaker 1: We have to kill it.

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Speaker 2: Mike Davis will join me hopefully this afternoon to talk

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Speaker 2: about this some more. Let's go to the Pentagon. Do

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Speaker 2: I have Jack Pisobic? Jack Pasobic at the Pentagon? Can

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Speaker 2: you hear me, sir.

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Speaker 11: Steve, I read you loud and clear from inside the

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Speaker 11: five Sided Puzzle Palace.

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Speaker 1: Well, tell me about today.

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Speaker 2: You're going to finally get We're going to get a

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Speaker 2: briefing at eleven o'clock. There's this this issue with recalling

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Speaker 2: Kelly for court martial.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to go after.

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Speaker 2: Our own Pete hexeth on a on a rule of

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Speaker 2: on the rules of war, about giving quarter. They're really

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Speaker 2: gearing up on this morning. Joe's lighted up about this.

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Speaker 2: We still have a carrier battlegroup and an amphibious ready

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Speaker 2: group off the coast of Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's kind of a tenor hooks, Are we going to

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Speaker 1: go to war this afternoon? Or what Jack pisobic?

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Speaker 11: Well, see if those are the very questions that we're

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Speaker 11: going to be asking about soon as the briefing begins here,

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Speaker 11: Kingsley Wilson is going to be coming out of the

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Speaker 11: Pentagon Press Secretary any of those questions.

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Speaker 6: I've been talking to you.

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Speaker 11: To the group here, and I think you'll see a

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Speaker 11: lot of war room alumni and a lot of war

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Speaker 11: room regulars. We get the great Brianna Morello is here,

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Speaker 11: Laura Lumer is here, Matt Gates is here, Sony Savannah

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Speaker 11: hernandez Monica Page. So it's really a murderer's row of

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Speaker 11: folks who, by the way, and people are saying, oh,

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Speaker 11: this new Pentagon Press Corps, they're you know, their lapdogs,

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Speaker 11: they're sick of fans through all the rest of I say,

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Speaker 11: hold on a second. These are not exactly people who

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Speaker 11: are fans of the military industrial complex. They are fans

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Speaker 11: of Mago World peace. And there's a lot of people

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Speaker 11: who have very serious questions, even libertarians here from zero Hedge.

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Speaker 11: We've got Liam Cosgrove over here from zero Hedge. We're

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Speaker 11: going to be asking serious questions about what exactly is

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Speaker 11: going on in Venezuela. There's certainly going to be questions

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Speaker 11: about the drone strikes Admiral Bradley, who, by the way,

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Speaker 11: you know I was familiar with Admiral Bradley during his

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Speaker 11: tenure down at in the Navy, down at dev gru

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Speaker 11: You know, these strikes, This was sop. I think that

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Speaker 11: narrative got blown up faster than a Narco boat, but

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Speaker 11: even by the New York Times itself. But again, you

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Speaker 11: still see Senator Wicker is launching this investigation into Pete Hegseth.

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Speaker 11: At the same time Mark Kelly is coming around sewing

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Speaker 11: dissension in the ranks.

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Speaker 1: Hang on, don't bury the lead.

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Speaker 2: Wicker is like Wicker's the Senate equivalent almost of Mike

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Speaker 2: Rogers right in the House Armed Services. You have a

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Speaker 2: Republican that is agreeing with the Democrats and the most

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Speaker 2: radical Democrats to actually start a formal inquiry into the

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Speaker 2: rules of engagement about this boat and particularly the second shot.

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Speaker 6: Sir Steve, that's exactly right. And I'll tell you something.

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Speaker 11: If Charlie Kirk we're here right now, he would be

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Speaker 11: lighting up the senators on that committee right now, Mark,

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Speaker 11: Wayne Mullen, Eric Schmid. There's so many good senators on

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Speaker 11: there to say, guys, what is going on? Why is

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Speaker 11: a Republican committee putting President Trump's secretary of War under

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Speaker 11: investigation for doing his job?

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Speaker 6: And, by the way, following the sop.

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Speaker 11: Of drone strikes that has been going on for over

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Speaker 11: a decade, why are Republicans in the Senate undercutting President

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Speaker 11: Trump's own cabinet secretary?

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Speaker 1: So let me ask Jack Bosobic, why is it happening?

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Speaker 1: Why is it happening?

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Speaker 5: Sir?

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Speaker 1: I've got my theory, but I want to hear yours.

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Speaker 2: You're over the Pentagon today. It's outrageous. But what do

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Speaker 2: you think is happening here? This is, folks, This is

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Speaker 2: not a small thing, Steve Stephen, because they're using this,

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Speaker 2: They're using this to go after President Trump, and this

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Speaker 2: is Republicans are teaming up with Democrats.

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Speaker 1: Steve.

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Speaker 11: It's all about getting leverage. Who controls the Pentagon, who

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Speaker 11: controls the military, who controls the deep state?

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Speaker 6: They have no problem. These are drone strikes and Somalia.

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Speaker 11: Drones strikes, and Yemen drones strikes in Afghanistan, they would

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Speaker 11: have no problem whatsoever. But if Pete Hegseath, on the

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Speaker 11: orders of Donald Trump is conducting these types of kinetic

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Speaker 11: strikes here in the Western Hemisphere is conducting hemispheric defense,

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Speaker 11: the entire Beltway is totally against that.

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Speaker 6: They want liberal hegemony.

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Speaker 11: That's what this fight is about, and they're using Pete

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Speaker 11: Hegseth to get to Trump.

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Speaker 2: So Jack, we're gonna go live when you guys start

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Speaker 2: at ten o'clock. But what we love to do is,

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Speaker 2: if we've got time, is pull you out before the

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Speaker 2: cabinet meetings starts. Academy is supposed to be eleven thirty,

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Speaker 2: but as you know, these cabinet meanings have a history

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Speaker 2: of starting a little late. So we'd love to get

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Speaker 2: you right after the right after the press bury for you.

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Speaker 11: If we ken, we will and Steve will be up

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Speaker 11: here live as well for Human Events Daily two to three. Today,

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Speaker 11: we're going to be doing it live right here from

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Speaker 11: the Pentagon.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Look forward to watching our own jackas so we've got

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Speaker 2: a whole team there today.

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Speaker 1: Of course, you got the great Matt Gates, You got

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Speaker 1: Laura Lumber there.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's Maga and it's America first at the Pentagon.

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Speaker 1: Is that a great day? Just amazing big news too.

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Speaker 2: Michael Dell, I think, has committed six billion dollars to

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Speaker 2: the Trump accounts for the babies. This new thing's gonna

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Speaker 2: announced the Cabinet and then a special announcement at two

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Speaker 2: pm today which we will cover in.

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Speaker 9: Real emergencies that the privacy and security concerns related to

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Speaker 9: the use of age assurance techniques are playing out in

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Speaker 9: real time with increased risks for end users. If Congress

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Speaker 9: nevertheless feels obligated to impose age assurance requirements, it should

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Speaker 9: mitigate the risks by requiring the highest levels of privacy guardrails,

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Speaker 9: including data minimization, deletion, reliance on high quality data, transparency,

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Speaker 9: and accountability. Fourth, creating good policy requires taking into account

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Speaker 9: the perspectives of minors and their caregivers. CDT is conducted

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Speaker 9: research asking a sample of teens in their parents about

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Speaker 9: features of current child safety proposals.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is kind of a march up session at

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Speaker 1: the committee. It's very important.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to dip in and this we'll play a

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Speaker 2: highlight reel. But if you have an interest in this,

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Speaker 2: Grayce and Moe have goit it up on one of

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Speaker 2: our other alternative channels, and we're going to try to

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Speaker 2: get into this between the Pentagon and the Cabinet.

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Speaker 1: Very important. What's happening.

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Speaker 2: And let me repeat, folks, you have a man voice.

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Speaker 2: And that's why why do we hire Joe Allen four

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Speaker 2: years ago to make sure that you had the intellectual

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Speaker 2: substrate underneath you of years of people talking about the

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Speaker 2: very smart guy writing about this and talking about it,

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Speaker 2: writing a book and bringing all these guests in. Because

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Speaker 2: I think you may have changed history here because the

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Speaker 2: tech bros wanted this in this moratorium as we call it,

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Speaker 2: AI amnesty more than life itself.

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Speaker 1: It was insane what they were doing.

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Speaker 2: And it's right there Mike Rogers, and they don't come

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Speaker 2: any heavier than Mike Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Over one of the cardinals over in the house just said.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I think the momentum on the AD and the

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Speaker 2: reason momentum died is that the warm posse got involved.

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Speaker 1: You lit it up. Article three.

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Speaker 2: Just fantastic. Now it ain't over to it's over, as

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Speaker 2: you know, they could put this thing back in tomorrow

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Speaker 2: morning and try to slight it in, but we'll be

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Speaker 2: on it. Done with debt, ma'am. Did you have a

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Speaker 2: good Thanksgiving? We missed you right on the show, right beforehand.

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Speaker 2: Did you have a good Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 8: Wonderful?

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Speaker 12: Spent it with my dear friend Heather Locklear and her

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Speaker 12: fabulous family, and her dad was missing this year. He

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Speaker 12: is a marine. So SIMPERI five Bill Lockwood, we Lockleer,

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Speaker 12: we love you. We call him Lockwood and a private joke.

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Speaker 12: But rest in peace, my friend. We had a lovely one.

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Speaker 12: I hope you did too, sir.

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Speaker 1: We did, Jillian Jane.

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Speaker 2: I wanted you on here to kick off the week

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Speaker 2: because this is the time when people say, hey, you know,

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Speaker 2: I got to get gifts, I got to get I

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Speaker 2: need that credit card. If you've gotten letters, if they're

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Speaker 2: trying to cut you off, if it's if they have

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Speaker 2: cut you off of the letter sitting there, it's just

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Speaker 2: not going to go away.

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Speaker 1: Done with debt? Are the guys you need to intercede

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Speaker 1: for you walk us through how that can happen.

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Speaker 2: How can the audience engage with done with debt and

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Speaker 2: get them on their side?

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Speaker 12: Thank you. See, this is the most important time of year.

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Speaker 12: As you know, a lot of people go through debt

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Speaker 12: throughout the year, right living paycheck to paycheck. I'm not

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Speaker 12: saving up. You know a lot of people like to

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Speaker 12: buy gifts throughout the year. I've always thought, how do

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Speaker 12: you do that? But it's actually a brilliant idea. I

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Speaker 12: could never do that. So what done with that will do?

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Speaker 12: And if you're in this position right now and you're thinking,

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Speaker 12: how can I save a little money for my kids?

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Speaker 12: How do I put a little aside for an emergency?

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Speaker 12: In my case, I had a lot of things I had,

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Speaker 12: you know, death and taxes at my door and cancer

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Speaker 12: and all of that. And that happens to a lot

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Speaker 12: of people, believe it or not. But this time of

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Speaker 12: year is also sort of deafcom five. We are running

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Speaker 12: around trying to figure out how am I going to

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Speaker 12: pay the mortgage or the rent, how am I going

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Speaker 12: to pay the kids' school? And also Christmas gifts or

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Speaker 12: Honkka whatever it is that you celebrate. So what done

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Speaker 12: with that will do for you? And they will do

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Speaker 12: it immediately overnight. And if you are in this position,

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Speaker 12: I suggest you go to done with.

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Speaker 3: That dot com.

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Speaker 12: If you're in the position of nasty phone calls at dinner,

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Speaker 12: NonStop mail. Oh, they can send mail, letter after letter.

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Speaker 12: Go to done with that dot com right now, free consultation.

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Speaker 12: They'll shut them up right in their place. All the

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Speaker 12: nasty letters stop overnight, the phone calls as well. And

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Speaker 12: what they do.

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Speaker 3: They don't want to put you into bankruptcy.

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Speaker 12: They don't want to put you into one big umbrella debt,

901
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Speaker 12: right consolidated debt. They're going to try to get you

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Speaker 12: out of this in a way that you could actually

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Speaker 12: end up with money in your pocket. And some people do.

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Speaker 12: But you have to talk to them first. They are

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Speaker 12: a team of master negotiators, Steve. I've worked with them

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Speaker 12: now for three years. They are nothing but the best

907
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Speaker 12: of the best. They know all the institutions to talk to.

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Speaker 12: They know the pennies on the dollar, who will write

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Speaker 12: off what? Who will you know go for pennies on

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Speaker 12: the dollar and what what?

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Speaker 8: What?

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Speaker 12: What ideas they have they'll bring to them. They know

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Speaker 12: exactly what these people are offering, but they.

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Speaker 1: Can with them.

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Speaker 2: And they deal with these guys every day. Every solved,

916
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Speaker 2: you know, bands every day. So here's what they can do.

917
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Speaker 2: And they're not promising this, but here's what they can do.

918
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Speaker 2: When you get involved and tell them, tell them you're

919
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Speaker 2: the specifics of your case. They can help go get

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Speaker 2: because many times in credit card company's written it off

921
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Speaker 2: so they get anything at cash. So they when you

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Speaker 2: say pennies on the dollar or some discount to the

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Speaker 2: face amount of what you owe, that's a possibility. Number Two,

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Speaker 2: they can cap immediately the interest payments that keep in,

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Speaker 2: the penalties that keep adding up. So this is why

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Speaker 2: it's so important to engage these people.

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Speaker 1: And talk to them. Don't take it from us. You

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Speaker 1: got to talk to them.

929
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Speaker 2: But the two things they can do right off the

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Speaker 2: bat is that they can they can get a discount

931
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Speaker 2: to the face amount that you own, and they can cap.

932
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Speaker 2: They can cap the fees and penalties. If you get

933
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Speaker 2: them engaged. And remember this whole thing, well, just declare bankruptcy.

934
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Speaker 2: Just declare bankruptcy is not the you know, it sticks

935
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Speaker 2: for you a long time. You have a tough time

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Speaker 2: getting being able to rent a house, get a car,

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Speaker 2: all that. Just don't think it just goes away. So

938
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Speaker 2: when people tell you just to claire bankruptcy, that's why

939
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Speaker 2: you got to talk to professionals.

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Speaker 1: And that's why you go to dine with that. It's saved.

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Speaker 2: It saved, Jillian, and it can potentially save you. But

942
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Speaker 2: it won't start until you get in touch with them,

943
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Speaker 2: if you just sit there and worry about it and

944
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Speaker 2: worry about it. So don't ruin the holidays. Get get

945
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Speaker 2: engaged with them today exactly.

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Speaker 12: And the number one thing you can do right now

947
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Speaker 12: is not pay another bill before you get in touch

948
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Speaker 12: with done with that, go to done with that dot

949
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Speaker 12: com and get on a track that will get you

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Speaker 12: to your financial freedom. Once again. Thank you so much, Steve.

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Speaker 12: I love being here. Happy Monday too, Happy Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: To you, Jillian, Thank you, Glad you had a great Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Glad you Glad you did it with Heather, and because

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Speaker 2: I know she was so close to her father who

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Speaker 2: is a marine. And I hope you have a great

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Speaker 2: holiday season. Look forward to seeing in.

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Speaker 1: A week or two. Thank you, sir, season.

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Speaker 2: Jillian Barbary. Dave Brad's going to stick with me at

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Speaker 2: least for a while. I think he's here at eleven thirty.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot to go through. Number One, huge, huge, huge.

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Speaker 2: Win tentatively for the war impossible. Mike Rogers, one of

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Speaker 2: the most powerful people on the hill in the House

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Speaker 2: House Armed Services Committee chair what we call the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: He has just said that he.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't believe that the moratorium or what we call AI

966
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Speaker 2: amnesty is going to be in the NBAA.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna put forward language on Thursday, just as he does.

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Speaker 1: It's lost momentum. Why did he lose momentum?

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Speaker 2: Bone this audience and many more that have worked on

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Speaker 2: a lot of grassroots groups have worked on this. They're

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Speaker 2: not comfortable where the oligarchs or the technocrats.

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Speaker 1: So the tech bros want to.

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Speaker 2: Take us very serious discussions about artificial intelligence.

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Speaker 1: This is why for.

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Speaker 2: Four years we've had Joe Joe Allen, who happens to

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Speaker 2: be in the hearing.

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Speaker 1: Right now taking notes and doing reporting. He's gonna be

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Speaker 1: with us this afternoon. Anyway. We've got the Pentagon we're

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Speaker 1: going to go to. We've got the Cabinet we're going

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Speaker 1: to go to.

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Speaker 2: We've got Dave Bratt, We've got a whole array of

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Speaker 2: folks here to give you the signal, not the noise.

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Speaker 2: In the morning edition of The War Room, m