Speaker 1: Welcome in to the New Orleans Saints Podcast, presently by Seatcake.
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Speaker 1: Podcast starts right now. Here's your host, Aaron Summers.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the New Orleans Saints Podcast. I'm Aaron Summers.
Speaker 2: We're continuing our draft series as we head into the
Speaker 2: draft April twenty fourth, looking at different prospects in different positions,
Speaker 2: and today we're doing something a little different. We're bringing
Speaker 2: in Ross Jackson because I mean, let's be honest, he
Speaker 2: knows everything about everything and I needed somebody to talk
Speaker 2: to me about tight ends today and Ross before we
Speaker 2: get into it, I just need you to kind of
Speaker 2: give me a summary of what you're up to these days,
Speaker 2: because it is hard to keep track.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a lot going on. First of all,
Speaker 3: thanks much for having me.
Speaker 4: It's always a play to be able to be here
Speaker 4: with you, and it'll be able to chat with you.
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Speaker 2: How is Lance? Is he trying to really talk up
Speaker 2: his guys now that he's in the eighties.
Speaker 4: He's playing a very clean game and we love him
Speaker 4: for it. Now, he's been awesome. He's been excellent and
Speaker 4: obviously you know him being able to step into that
Speaker 4: next career as a certified agent in the NFL. Everything's
Speaker 4: been so cool. He's got several players in this year's draft.
Speaker 4: It's been really awesome to just kind of hear about
Speaker 4: his journey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it gives you a different perspective on
Speaker 2: some things too. So getting into the tight ends, obviously,
Speaker 2: Penn states Tyler Warren has been the one that's been
Speaker 2: at the top of everyone rankings when you look at
Speaker 2: the group here, Why is he your number one? When
Speaker 2: it comes to basically every tight end ranking?
Speaker 3: I've seen it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's kind of the consensus guy. He's the
Speaker 4: number one tight end in this draft on my board.
Speaker 4: There are some dissenting opinions around it, which is good.
Speaker 4: You want those dissenting opinions, especially when it comes to
Speaker 4: you know, different conversations and draft rooms.
Speaker 3: And scouts and things like that.
Speaker 4: But I mean when it comes to Tyler Warren, it's
Speaker 4: just the the eclecticism of his game. One hundred and
Speaker 4: four receptions, two hundred and thirty three receiving yards, and
Speaker 4: eight touchdowns last season with the Penn Saint Ntney Lyons
Speaker 4: is the focus of that passing game, but also had
Speaker 4: you know, twenty plus rushes for over two hundred rushing
Speaker 4: yards and another you know, just under a handful of
Speaker 4: rushing touchdowns through a touchdown.
Speaker 3: Last year as well.
Speaker 4: It's just the the the remarkable flexibility and versatility of
Speaker 4: his game. Is he going to be asked to be
Speaker 4: a wildcat quarterback in the NFL? It depends on the
Speaker 4: system that he goes to, but outside of that, his
Speaker 4: ability to be able to play in line, meaning that
Speaker 4: he's like tucked in right next to the offensive tackles
Speaker 4: in the slot or all the way out wide like
Speaker 4: you would see a wide receiver that alone, in terms
Speaker 4: of his versatility to be able to do all those
Speaker 4: things makes him a kind of a can't miss candidate
Speaker 4: in this year's draft as a playmaker.
Speaker 2: You brought up his ability to get in there like
Speaker 2: in the slot as a receiver, rusher, and passer. But
Speaker 2: I think a lot of the adjectives that you hear
Speaker 2: now with tight ends, as he's a receiving tight end
Speaker 2: and not so much a blocking tight end as what
Speaker 2: we've seen in the past. How have you seen the
Speaker 2: position evolve and maybe what people are looking for change.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting because there's a lot of people that
Speaker 4: want and look different. Teams are going to want different
Speaker 4: things to different systems are going to require different types
Speaker 4: of fits. But you see a lot now of these
Speaker 4: collegiate tight ends coming into the NFL that are polished
Speaker 4: pass catchers, in some cases polished route runners as well,
Speaker 4: but need to learn run protection, need to learn pass protection,
Speaker 4: need to learn how to block with better maybe technique
Speaker 4: than they were asked to in college, and things like
Speaker 4: that. That's not entirely uncommon, but it's something that I think
Speaker 4: now the receiving prowess of guys like brock Bauers and
Speaker 4: things like that who come into the league is certainly
Speaker 4: more appealing. And I think the other thing that shifted
Speaker 4: to Aaron is the expectation of size.
Speaker 3: It used to be at six foot six, six foot.
Speaker 4: Seven tight ends where the marquee types of players, But
Speaker 4: now you're looking at kind of six foot three, six
Speaker 4: foot four guys being perfectly acceptable first round, second round.
Speaker 3: Investments at the position.
Speaker 4: So I think those are two major shifts that we've
Speaker 4: seen at the position in terms of the expectations making
Speaker 4: that leap in that transition from college to the pros.
Speaker 2: It's funny that you bring that up, because when I
Speaker 2: was talking to Juwan Johnson, who does recently signed that
Speaker 2: three year extension with the Saints, he mentioned how he's
Speaker 2: not that big of a guy, and he changed from
Speaker 2: receiver to tight end and he's going up against offensive
Speaker 2: our defensive linemen that are voices side, and I'm looking
Speaker 2: at him like, Joan, you look pretty big to me,
Speaker 2: Like you're kind of a big guy. But yeah, it
Speaker 2: is interesting though that even he views himself as smaller
Speaker 2: for a tight end. When you're being asked to block
Speaker 2: and hold the ground. When you look at the next
Speaker 2: few tight ends that maybe coming off the board, the
Speaker 2: Michigan's Colston Loveland, do you have Miami, He's Elijah Royo.
Speaker 2: Those guys though have been slated as receiving tight ends.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 4: You know, Loveland coming out of Michigan is one of
Speaker 4: the more polished route runners at the position, and I
Speaker 4: think the truth of the matter is when it comes
Speaker 4: to him, when it comes to Tyler Warren, when it
Speaker 4: comes to Elijah Royo, you probably don't want those guys
Speaker 4: one on one with defensive ends, but typically you try
Speaker 4: to avoid that being a part of your game plan
Speaker 4: as an offense anyway. The bigger pieces can they contribute
Speaker 4: for you as additional blockers in the run game, And
Speaker 4: sometimes that's all about a willingness. Sometimes it's about just
Speaker 4: being in position and having your number, your jersey numbers
Speaker 4: on your back towards that running back to give them
Speaker 4: a lane to be able to cut through and things
Speaker 4: like that. And so I think those are the things
Speaker 4: that you look for on tape and that you can
Speaker 4: find with a Colson Loveland, even though he's considered more
Speaker 4: of a receiving tight end, but he certainly maybe fits
Speaker 4: a little bit more of the traditional what we would
Speaker 4: call like a true why tight end, a guy that
Speaker 4: lines up in line, that stays site to the formation,
Speaker 4: but has the flexibility and versatility to be able to move.
Speaker 3: Around, while Warren and Arroyo would probably be more.
Speaker 4: Of what you'll typically refer to as kind of f
Speaker 4: move tight ends guys, so you can move all around
Speaker 4: the formation, do a bunch of different things with have
Speaker 4: them do split split action releases out of the backfield
Speaker 4: and all this other stuff. And so it's just kind
Speaker 4: of this fun thing of like these different types of
Speaker 4: chess pieces that you can now find at the tight
Speaker 4: end position as that position continues to grow and the
Speaker 4: talent continues to.
Speaker 3: Grow, and you know, from college to the pros and
Speaker 3: all these things.
Speaker 4: But both those guys certainly more so receiving tight ends,
Speaker 4: But I think you'll look for do they have what
Speaker 4: it takes to be able to maybe grow a little
Speaker 4: bit as a blocker so you can have him on
Speaker 4: the field for more looks, more downs, more situations things
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 2: LSU's Mason Taylor is somebody that has started to rise
Speaker 2: in conversations around who and where you might draft him,
Speaker 2: like who would go before him after him? He's kind
Speaker 2: of on that three spot right now. Some people have
Speaker 2: him around the fifth tight end that goes off the board,
Speaker 2: but it does seem like he's starting to climb, they
Speaker 2: have said. People have said, I hate the same thing
Speaker 2: because it's like who is that? But it's been out
Speaker 2: there that some people think he needs to put on
Speaker 2: a little more size, and maybe that's something that they're
Speaker 2: hoping that he can do, but they still like what
Speaker 2: he brings to the table. I know you saw him
Speaker 2: at his pro day at LSU. What do you like
Speaker 2: about him?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's another guy that I look at and I
Speaker 4: would personally say, what more size?
Speaker 3: What do you mean? Like he's massive out there right right?
Speaker 4: And then he moved extremely well also right it comes in.
Speaker 4: I think he's it's six foot four and he's in
Speaker 4: the two four range. I think that's probably pretty solid
Speaker 4: in terms.
Speaker 3: Of what it is that you're looking for at the position.
Speaker 4: Maybe you can bump them up into the two fifty
Speaker 4: range more solidly. And we've got to remember sometimes too,
Speaker 4: that where these guys work out where they like, the
Speaker 4: weight at which they work out, the weight at which
Speaker 4: they test, the weight at which they do their offseason
Speaker 4: prep might be different than the weight that they actually
Speaker 4: play at once they get to you know, game mode,
Speaker 4: if you will, and things like that. So some of
Speaker 4: that might be inherent to what his process is. But
Speaker 4: running a four six five and you know, leaping and
Speaker 4: giving you twenty eight bench reps and showing the strength
Speaker 4: along with the athleticism and the explosion and things like that.
Speaker 3: I think that's the.
Speaker 4: Reason why you saw and why we're seeing all of
Speaker 4: the they conversations around Mason Taylor really skyrocketing up boards,
Speaker 4: Like he went from being a late day two guy
Speaker 4: in the third round being somebody you might have to
Speaker 4: invest in the second round in order to be able
Speaker 4: to get and a bit of that is the attitude
Speaker 4: that he brings.
Speaker 3: He's got an NFL.
Speaker 4: Pedigree as well, of course, and then him coming in
Speaker 4: and being a guy that can you know, be that
Speaker 4: fifty to fifty jump ball winner in the end zone,
Speaker 4: go up there and be bigger than the safeties and
Speaker 4: defensive backs that he might be lining up with, but
Speaker 4: then be faster than the linebackers that he's going up
Speaker 4: against in the middle of the field. That's really really
Speaker 4: interesting and obviously something that teams would covet, along with
Speaker 4: the fact that he is somebody that will go out
Speaker 4: there and block and do some of the dirty work too.
Speaker 2: A lot of the prognosticators the mock drafts have said
Speaker 2: that the Saints should select a tight end at some point.
Speaker 2: You see that as a need for.
Speaker 4: Them, I think so, I mean, maybe not necessarily a need.
Speaker 4: Like the three year deal to bring back Juwan Johnson
Speaker 4: gives you kind of a place for your future to head,
Speaker 4: and he's somebody that obviously this team is invested in
Speaker 4: multiple times over at this point, and with this new
Speaker 4: coaching staff and everything, I think that that's going to
Speaker 4: all be able to play to Juwan Johnson's strengths a bit.
Speaker 4: And so I think the other thing that you're looking at, though,
Speaker 4: is that as of right now, foss Row is in
Speaker 4: a contract year, Taysom Hills in a contract year, both
Speaker 4: those guys coming off of.
Speaker 3: Injuries as well.
Speaker 4: So I think you're looking at just preparing for your
Speaker 4: future at the position. If you're the New Orleans Saints,
Speaker 4: I could see that being a logical thing to do,
Speaker 4: just based on the situation of the entire the circumstance
Speaker 4: rather or the entire position group as a whole. You've
Speaker 4: got to be ready when you're going into these drafts
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five, You're not just looking for somebody
Speaker 4: to help you in twenty twenty five, you're going, Okay,
Speaker 4: what can this person be in twenty twenty six, twenty
Speaker 4: twenty seven, twenty twenty eight, like, you're looking at that
Speaker 4: whole expanse of the rookie contract, and I think that's
Speaker 4: something that you could see this team potentially taking the
Speaker 4: consideration at the position this year.
Speaker 2: As we move into later in the draft Day two, three, four,
Speaker 2: heck even you know over the weekend Saturdays, rounds and
Speaker 2: the Saints are needing somebody. Who are some of the
Speaker 2: names we should be looking out for.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got three like late round guys that I
Speaker 4: really like in this year's draft, one of which has
Speaker 4: already been connected to New Orleans.
Speaker 3: So I'll start with him.
Speaker 4: Nebraska Cornhuskers tight end Thomas fedoniuh the second.
Speaker 3: He's the guy that comes in and has, you know.
Speaker 4: A little bit of the all around tag at tight end,
Speaker 4: do a little of blocking, but is also not a
Speaker 4: little bit of blocking, blocks very.
Speaker 3: Well he's in that Cornhusker's offense.
Speaker 4: Playing in Nebraska, you better be able to block, and
Speaker 4: so you know him having that while also being a
Speaker 4: guy that is, you know, a pretty good athlete and
Speaker 4: a polished receiver with safe hands. I think that he's
Speaker 4: one that I would watch for in Day three. Arondez Gads.
Speaker 4: Then also the second. There's a lot of seconds in
Speaker 4: this year's draft, not as many juniors. He's coming in
Speaker 4: out of Syracuse. Probably he's a converted wide receiver. I'll
Speaker 4: lad Juwan Johnson. So somebody that is of the type
Speaker 4: and of the style of tight end that we know
Speaker 4: this organization is comfortable with. Good route runner, good contested
Speaker 4: catch guy, big hands, all those things. So I think
Speaker 4: that those are the are reliable hands. I think those
Speaker 4: are kind of the biggest attributes for him. Maybe not
Speaker 4: so much a powerful blocker though, so maybe that's too
Speaker 4: much of a leap late in the third, but I'm
Speaker 4: relate in day three. But he's somebody that I really
Speaker 4: like as well. And then I'll finish with Mitchell Evans.
Speaker 4: Notre Dame has been a program that we've watched New Orleans,
Speaker 4: can you know, go back to a few times over
Speaker 4: the course of the recent past. There's something about that
Speaker 4: pedigree that they like. When you have a head coach
Speaker 4: like they have over there and coach Rima too, you
Speaker 4: obviously want to be able to work with those guys.
Speaker 4: But Mitchell Evans is an interesting one because if you
Speaker 4: he's a watch the film guy, he doesn't have a
Speaker 4: ton of stats, doesn't have a ton of things that
Speaker 4: jump off the board at you when it comes to
Speaker 4: a stat line. But when you watch him on tape
Speaker 4: and you see that, you know, Notre Dame's offense just
Speaker 4: didn't go to its tied end very much. You can
Speaker 4: kind of see where he's working into the open areas
Speaker 4: of the field. He's you know, running good routes. He's
Speaker 4: you know, moving well and kind of the short area
Speaker 4: quickness piece of the game where you're having a change
Speaker 4: direction and things like that. He just shows you a
Speaker 4: lot of promising things on tape while also again being
Speaker 4: a willing blocker that I think that if you're looking
Speaker 4: for somebody from a raw traits standpoint, even if the
Speaker 4: stat line doesn't match up, he could be a really
Speaker 4: interesting candidate for you, just in terms of what his
Speaker 4: skill set.
Speaker 2: Looks like, sounds kind of like somebody that we grabbed
Speaker 2: those undrafted and Dolln Holker, you know you can, got
Speaker 2: some of those flashy moments and as a trait, he
Speaker 2: stuck around. So Saints are are not afraid to try
Speaker 2: out some guys that didn't get drafted, and they've done
Speaker 2: very well with their undrafted free agents and a lot
Speaker 2: of them have stuck around for a while. Since I
Speaker 2: do have you and I'm the Saints Podcast, you know,
Speaker 2: can you you want to just kind of give me
Speaker 2: your thoughts on this whole Shador Sanders Staints draft in
Speaker 2: a quarterback situation that seems that it has kind of
Speaker 2: like taken over the last couple of days.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Man, it's the momentum around Schador has been so funny,
Speaker 4: not so funny, but it's been so like remarkable to
Speaker 4: see and it's been it's been really interesting to watch.
Speaker 4: I would say that momentum wise, there's two big names
Speaker 4: when it comes to quarterback for the New Orlean Saints draft,
Speaker 4: and there's the consistent momentum and the sustained momentum which
Speaker 4: has been felt like that's been old miss quarterback Jackson
Speaker 4: Dark from the very beginning of the draft process, but
Speaker 4: the sort of peak of momentum is absolutely here right
Speaker 4: now when it comes to Colorado passes Shador Sanders.
Speaker 3: Look, I don't know if the.
Speaker 4: Saints are, you know, super in on your door or
Speaker 4: super out on your door where they really sit on
Speaker 4: the spectrum when it comes to him, But I will
Speaker 4: say this, he's a really, really talented passer, and he's
Speaker 4: a passer that is more accurate and more and maybe
Speaker 4: shows better elite ball placement than he is a strong
Speaker 4: armed passer. And so some people will develop feelings about
Speaker 4: that in whichever way they want to go.
Speaker 3: But in the NFL, a mongst all of it.
Speaker 4: If you can throw at seventy yards all you want,
Speaker 4: but if you can't throw at seventy yards and hit
Speaker 4: your target, you're not doing me much much good as
Speaker 4: an NFL organization.
Speaker 3: And so accuracy is all right. And so seeing him as.
Speaker 4: A potential for the New Orleans Saints at number nine,
Speaker 4: I still think he goes off the board early. Whether
Speaker 4: it's the Cleveland at two, New York at three, even
Speaker 4: Las Vegas at six, I don't believe that any of
Speaker 4: those three teams have long term solutions at the quarterback position,
Speaker 4: even with some recent free agent acquisitions and even a
Speaker 4: trade for the Raiders. I think again, you're not just
Speaker 4: looking at twenty twenty five. You're looking at way longer
Speaker 4: than that, especially with a quarterback in the first round.
Speaker 3: And so I could see any of those teams do it.
Speaker 4: I could see a team like the Pittsburgh Seelers trying
Speaker 4: to trade up as well to be able to go
Speaker 4: and get their guys. So I think it's a tall
Speaker 4: task for New Orleans if they want to stick and
Speaker 4: pick at nine and hope that sure Sanders is there.
Speaker 3: But if he is there, it's it's just good business.
Speaker 4: It's good business to go out and grab one of
Speaker 4: the best quarterbacks in this year's.
Speaker 3: Draft without having to move around.
Speaker 4: If he's there for you, it's going to be really
Speaker 4: tough for them to pass on him, for sure, unless
Speaker 4: they feel really really good about another one of those
Speaker 4: quarterbacks later on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jackson Dart was somebody that we've seen from their
Speaker 2: IBN as somebody that was talking about is a good
Speaker 2: fit for the Saints. Obviously they've been in contact over
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks as well. People reading into
Speaker 2: maybe Alvin Kamara going up there visiting prime hanging out
Speaker 2: with Craado doing going through practice. It's been funny to
Speaker 2: see all of that, for sure, and it just, I
Speaker 2: don't know, it makes you love the draft because you
Speaker 2: never know what's going to happen and there's all these
Speaker 2: little things. It's tea leaves. If people are over an
Speaker 2: as it is, it comes. So it's gonna be a
Speaker 2: lot of fun when we get there. Other needs that
Speaker 2: you think the Saints have other than you know, we've
Speaker 2: talked about possibly a tight end quarterback. It than's there
Speaker 2: and it works.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would probably say corner is a spot that
Speaker 4: makes sense right like you know, you think about going
Speaker 4: back to the trade deadline last year, Marshall Latimore traded
Speaker 4: to the Washington Commanders to get sort of turned into
Speaker 4: some pretty solid draft selections out of that. We'll see
Speaker 4: what those draft selections turn into. But then Paulson Adiebo's
Speaker 4: signing with the New York Giants, getting his next opportunity
Speaker 4: over in the Big Apple, and then bringing in Isaac
Speaker 4: Adam I think was an excellent move by New Orleans
Speaker 4: in terms of bringing in a familiar face, somebody that
Speaker 4: they know pretty well.
Speaker 3: All these other pieces, and that is also talented.
Speaker 4: But you know, I think that's a position where you
Speaker 4: can continue to invest and it's not necessarily something you
Speaker 4: have to invest in or a spot you have to
Speaker 4: invest in in the first round. You could do that
Speaker 4: in the second round with one of those third round picks. However,
Speaker 4: it works, so there's a lot of different spots where
Speaker 4: they can go there. I'm curious to say, if a
Speaker 4: big bodied tight end excuse me, a big bodied wide receiver,
Speaker 4: my apologies, is on the docket at all for New Orleans.
Speaker 3: They have these.
Speaker 4: You know, they've built a lot of speed in their
Speaker 4: wide receiver room. But you wonder, like Kellen Moore when
Speaker 4: we talked to him at the at the league meetings,
Speaker 4: he kind of mentioned, you know, ideally, you want your
Speaker 4: you know, some people want their wide receiver room to
Speaker 4: kind of look like a basketball team. You want your center,
Speaker 4: you want your point guard, you want your big bodied
Speaker 4: guys and all these other things. But really, I mean,
Speaker 4: when it comes to Kellen Moore, as he said over
Speaker 4: and over again, he wants to identify the superpower of
Speaker 4: the players that he does have. More than he's worried
Speaker 4: about going out and trying to find the superpower in
Speaker 4: you know, another player, but I would I would venture
Speaker 4: to guess that if there's an opportunity to go and
Speaker 4: get a big bodied guy with a superpower, that Kellen
Speaker 4: Moore would know what to do with that player. So
Speaker 4: I would certainly put kind of that mold of a
Speaker 4: wide receiver on pick watch for the New Orleans Saints
Speaker 4: during the draft as well.
Speaker 2: When you say superpower, I immediately think of defensive end
Speaker 2: Cam Jordan because it feels like he has so many
Speaker 2: the longevity that he's had, right, his personality, the positivity.
Speaker 2: He was on Good Morning Football talking about how he
Speaker 2: thinks that when this team is healthy, they could be
Speaker 2: the second best team in the League's.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, this is what you need to do
Speaker 4: in the NFL is to have that kind of attitude.
Speaker 4: And I'm actually surprised to hear him say second best
Speaker 4: team in the NFL. Usually players like well being the
Speaker 4: best team in the NFL. But like, that's the attitude
Speaker 4: that you have to have. If you're not going to
Speaker 4: have that attitude, then what are you on the field for, right?
Speaker 4: I Mean, I think that that's the kind of thing
Speaker 4: that Cam has always been so brilliant at throughout his career,
Speaker 4: and I mean going on year fifteen, Aaron, I don't
Speaker 4: think I've done anything well for fifteen years at once.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, fifteen years in a row.
Speaker 2: It's never happened consistently.
Speaker 4: I've done a lot of things not well for fifteen years,
Speaker 4: that's for sure. But I mean, yeah, like that's something
Speaker 4: that he's always been so great at is the belief
Speaker 4: in the team. And when you look at who your
Speaker 4: leaders are in this locker room, Cam's name is one
Speaker 4: of the first names that pops up. And if Cam's
Speaker 4: out there not believing in this team, then who why
Speaker 4: anyone follows suit so great to see him be able to,
Speaker 4: you know, willingly go out there have that belief, truly
Speaker 4: know that he believes it too. Like we've talked to
Speaker 4: Cam a lot, and we know that he truly believes.
Speaker 3: In what this team has.
Speaker 4: And I think that this is an organization that still
Speaker 4: very much feels like injuries had a major impact last year,
Speaker 4: and so staying healthy here going into twenty twenty five
Speaker 4: would be such a big benefit for them, should that
Speaker 4: be the case, to allow them maybe to be able
Speaker 4: to maximize themselves in a way that they weren't necessarily
Speaker 4: able to you know, down to their sixth seventh, this SAT,
Speaker 4: and the other all throughout the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you may be right. Cam might have said top
Speaker 2: two teams. He might not have positioned himself as second.
Speaker 2: So I'll have to fact.
Speaker 4: Check that I was gonna say that.
Speaker 3: Cam.
Speaker 4: I'm surprised he didn't say the best, right right, not
Speaker 4: even top Tam surprised he didn't say the best.
Speaker 2: But it is really good to hear the confidence that
Speaker 2: he has in this team and the belief that he has,
Speaker 2: and the players in the locker room and what they
Speaker 2: can add in the draft, and then looking at what
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore really wants to do as far as highlighting
Speaker 2: each person's strengths and pulling that out, and Camp feels
Speaker 2: like it's there and Callen feels like you can pull
Speaker 2: it out of everybody, then it's going to be really
Speaker 2: interesting to see what this team does look like in
Speaker 2: the fall. So I'm looking forward to it and I
Speaker 2: appreciate your insight as always.
Speaker 3: Of course, thanks for having me. Always pleasure to be
Speaker 3: here with you.
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