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Speaker 1: What's up.

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Speaker 2: It's way up at Angela. Yeah, and you know you

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Speaker 2: can't spell way without wayno wayno's in the building and

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Speaker 2: we got Baby Money here with us, and you know,

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Speaker 2: you guys are affiliated with each other, so we're gonna

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Speaker 2: get to that in a second.

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Speaker 1: But this is my now second time meeting you.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I got the Pistons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, three one three day at the Pistons game, Baby

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Speaker 2: Money was performing, So shout out to you for that.

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Speaker 2: That was a dope day. I was happy to be

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Speaker 2: at that game for three one three day. Everybody was there.

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Speaker 3: That was fun too.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: What was that like for you? Just you know, performing

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Speaker 2: at three and one three day? And are you a

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Speaker 2: Pistons fan?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta be a Piston fan. You gotta be

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Speaker 3: if it was good though, like that was she's not right,

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Speaker 3: she is not right. It made me feel good though,

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Speaker 3: and I was able to like pop upbout the stands

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Speaker 3: like it was like a real performance, like we was

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Speaker 3: at a concert or something. So and I like just

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Speaker 3: go to all them games, especially at the Palace before

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Speaker 3: it got to our city.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it was dope.

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Speaker 2: I was in next to V's worse the five nine,

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Speaker 2: like everybody was there for three y'all go hard for.

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Speaker 1: Three one three days.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the day we get and.

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Speaker 2: Y'all also have sweetest Day, y'all get like some other

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Speaker 2: stuff that we don't do here.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. Everybody keeps saying that get your gifts back.

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Speaker 1: See, he don't know what it is sweetest sweetish day.

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Speaker 3: It's like so on Valentine's that you get your girl

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Speaker 3: some sweetiest days, like they got to get you something.

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Speaker 3: So you missing a lot of gifts right now. You

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Speaker 3: feel as you know, it's a world thing.

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Speaker 4: Gifts.

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Speaker 1: What kind of gifts you got for sweetest Day?

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Speaker 4: Ever?

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Speaker 3: Louis changed? Oh, it's like important in our city, It's.

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Speaker 1: Very important important. What if your girl didn't get you

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Speaker 1: nothing but sweetest.

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Speaker 3: Day you I'm gonna take it personal because I go out,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go all the way off for Valentine's Day

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Speaker 3: to make sure she's smile well Wayno.

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Speaker 2: The reason why this was important because Wanna's been talking

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Speaker 2: about you for such a long time and he actually

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Speaker 2: signs you to Quality Control. But I know a lot

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Speaker 2: of people were trying to sign you, and so let's

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Speaker 2: discuss that whole process because this is something for a

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Speaker 2: lot of independent artists. You were doing your thing independently

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Speaker 2: and then you made the decision and decided to go

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Speaker 2: this route. So I want to talk about what went

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Speaker 2: into that decision. So what's that with you, Reyno?

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Speaker 1: What made you? What did you see in Baby Money?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 5: My man has sent me a little stuff, Like he

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Speaker 5: sent this me right when I was moving to Atlanta,

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Speaker 5: so I didn't get a chance to check it out.

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Speaker 5: And then when I did check it out, like he

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Speaker 5: had this song called Chrome Heart, and Chrome Heart was

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Speaker 5: just like I don't know, I think when I watched

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Speaker 5: the video, like not trying to be funny with the

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Speaker 5: way he looked at the camera, like he just showed

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Speaker 5: his vulnerability in that song because he was talking about

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Speaker 5: a personal situation in that song. So that alone made

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Speaker 5: me interested in him as an artist. You feel me,

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Speaker 5: And like I wasn't looking at no numbers, like I'm

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Speaker 5: not the number. I don't agree that numbers don't matter

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Speaker 5: early on, they do, but at the same time, for me,

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Speaker 5: I was just looking at him as somebody that could

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Speaker 2: Okay, And for you, Baby Money, because people were looking

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Speaker 2: at you and you had some other opportunities what made

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Speaker 3: I was already he didn't know like this probably the

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Speaker 3: first time they know that. I was already watching him.

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Speaker 3: He had that podcast every Day Struggle. Yeah, I was

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Speaker 3: before he signed. I wrote pee five years before he

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Speaker 3: signed me and told him, like, you're gonna be signing

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Speaker 3: me soon. That was another reason. And that was just

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Speaker 3: always like a dream, like somebody asked you something like

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Speaker 3: who's you signed to right now? Like you see everybody

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Speaker 3: one reason, like I know they're gonna turn me up

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Speaker 1: And so initially when you reached out, you know, what

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Speaker 1: was your approach.

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Speaker 5: Well, one of my homeboys, like I said, he sent

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Speaker 4: He said it to be like late morning. Then I

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Speaker 5: I listened to it and then I caught p and

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Speaker 5: I was like, Yo, it's just this guy I want

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Speaker 5: to sign. He fired, and I said it to him.

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Speaker 5: He called me back like a met Like he is

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Speaker 5: real responsive. If he don't like something, if he don't

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Speaker 5: like it, he just won't say nothing that, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean. He won't say that like you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean. But when I sent it the p

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Speaker 5: he hit me. He called me right back. He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: see what he talking about. And then that led to us,

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Speaker 5: you know, getting all on the phone, getting d D

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Speaker 5: on Baby Money's manager involved, and us getting on the

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Speaker 5: phone and figuring out how to get him down to Atlanta,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: And when he came down.

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Speaker 5: I told him about like me moving down to Atlanta

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Speaker 5: and picking up and coming down there because I believed

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Speaker 5: it's like, you know, once we talked about all that,

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Speaker 1: I mean, name is Baby Money, right, you know it's important.

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Speaker 4: We had to get our bread right, give my boy.

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Speaker 5: But you know it all worked out, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 5: it all worked out and were continuously growing, right, And.

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Speaker 2: It's been it has been a long journey for you.

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Speaker 2: Like on countdown you said, it's been ten years. So

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Speaker 2: let's talk about those ten years from when you first

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Speaker 2: decided this is what you want to do to get

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Speaker 3: So losing a lot of people is one. Especially it

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Speaker 3: be the people that, like, be the people that push

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Speaker 3: you to do it. That'd be crazy part about it.

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Speaker 3: Like the people that push you to do it be

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Speaker 3: the ones that you lose and be like, damn, Now,

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Speaker 3: I got to make sure I did it, Like I

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Speaker 3: make them happy. It'd be the people that when I

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Speaker 3: ain't had no money, they'd pay for the studio time,

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Speaker 3: like your brother. Yeah, like my brother, my club, my cousin. Oh,

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Speaker 3: Like I lost a lot of friends, so I just

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: And so even before that, I know you had said

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Speaker 2: previously you just found like heard some of your dad's

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Speaker 2: music for the first time too, because your father also

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Speaker 2: used to wrap.

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Speaker 1: How did it sound to you when you heard sound.

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Speaker 3: It sounded cold, then it sounded like how the ninety

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Speaker 3: music was, Like he was in that moment, like you

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Speaker 3: feel me talking about how you get money in the kitchen.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, I ain't know you was doing all

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Then you get to hear like his story because I

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Speaker 3: but you get to hear like what he going through

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Speaker 3: all right, he was doing this. It was meant for

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Speaker 3: me to do this. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And you also have a lot of siblings as well,

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Speaker 2: how many and you're kind of in the middle somewhere.

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Speaker 1: How do you think that affects you?

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Speaker 2: Like being because you know, they always talk about the youngest,

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Speaker 2: the oldest, and then the middle child has like but

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Speaker 2: they call middle child syndrome.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm I'm the middle child, but I'm like the

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Speaker 3: big brother. Like I'm like the big brothers to everybody.

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Speaker 3: I get mad at everything that they do. I'm just

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Speaker 3: I'll be kind of controlling. That's probably bad, but we

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Speaker 3: you mess up, I gotta say something to you. You

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Speaker 3: pooper sometime on they side, but I act old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they listen, that's what you call yourself. You got

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Speaker 2: the old soul, especially what he no.

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Speaker 5: For real, because I mean I think that's one of

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Speaker 5: the things that really connect me and him, because.

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Speaker 6: I am you always at a long time, seriously, Like

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Speaker 6: I remember what time, Like when he called me on

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Speaker 5: He's like, Man, I'm a Bosston looking at a lake.

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Speaker 5: He's like, I was, like, how you get up there?

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Speaker 5: He's like, I just I just took a flight. He's like,

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Speaker 5: I was looking at lakes and stuff and I just

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Speaker 3: I was up there for like three four hours.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Look, but you know there's probably a lot of things

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Speaker 3: They get a clear mind, Yeah, to get.

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Speaker 2: A clear mind, because that's nice to be able to travel.

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Speaker 2: Can you think about, like I think about the first

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Speaker 2: plane and went somewhere. Like, what's the first place you

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Speaker 3: Detroit, Miami.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's a nice one.

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Speaker 3: My girl took mem I was probably fourteen, and.

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Speaker 1: She took you to miam for sweetest day.

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Speaker 3: Probably no fourth of July. I remember fourth of July,

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Speaker 1: And how did that change things for you? Because traveling in.

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Speaker 3: Town every week probably since then, I ain't know, it's

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Speaker 3: like bigger stuff, Like I ain't know as big as

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Speaker 3: she showed me that for shure.

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Speaker 1: That's dope.

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Speaker 2: See how a woman could change your whole viewpoint on things?

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Speaker 2: Is somebody you've been with since then?

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Speaker 3: For thirteen years?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 3: Since I was thirteen.

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Speaker 1: There's not a lot of guys that could say that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm not gonna say nothing way now, but

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Speaker 2: that does you know that longevity does mean a lot

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Speaker 2: and you do talk a lot of share in your music.

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Speaker 1: Does she take it this year?

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Speaker 3: Is she ever? Like?

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Speaker 1: You know, you ain't doing all that?

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Speaker 3: It's my job.

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Speaker 2: Because that's hard for a woman, Like why is he

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Speaker 3: Sure, I grew up with skillers, so it's like I'm

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Speaker 2: That has to feel surreal because both of you are

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Speaker 3: This is what we supposed to be doing.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, he always did the songs for women too,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good tried, You're good now. I was gonna say,

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Speaker 4: He do the work for me.

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Speaker 5: So it's like to see what he's doing for Detroit

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Speaker 1: Baby Face, Ray, y'all all got songs together.

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Speaker 2: It's really like you don't have to leave Detroit in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. And we've all been working together for

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Speaker 2: Time for too, Doug all you guys, and I know

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Speaker 3: Is that a goal for you too, just to I

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Speaker 3: like I want to do other stuff other than this.

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Speaker 3: We want to do this like all our life, right

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Speaker 2: We're almost done with our midtown Detroit projects.

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Speaker 1: But you also have seen that in your family. Oh

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Speaker 2: But you know, I was gonna say, you also have

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Speaker 1: So that's something that you've been seeing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's a lot of opportunity when you're from

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Speaker 3: You got to take advantage of it whenever they give

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Speaker 3: I said, wow, I should have did it.

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Speaker 1: Is that something that you're actively doing now?

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Speaker 4: Though?

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Speaker 1: As far as opportunities and investing and have.

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Speaker 3: You I got a food truck opening too in Houston. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I think next month. I think next month on the seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Can you cook?

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Speaker 3: No, I can't cook. I can cook all the hood food, noodles, hamburgers,

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Speaker 3: that's all food. That's what you can just as soon

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Speaker 2: Wayna was talking earlier about the vulnerary ability that he

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Speaker 2: And one thing you've talked a lot also about is

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Speaker 3: I messed up. Messed up, sure, for sure.

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Speaker 3: You need to stop drinking lean. That's the first thing

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Speaker 3: So I was having fun. I got to take it

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Speaker 1: Were you already signed when that happened.

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Speaker 3: I was going on Twitter next month. No, literally, I

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Speaker 3: went in jail before she made sure I didn't go

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Speaker 4: She sh it threw our whole plan off because we

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Speaker 5: We had a tape dropping, and right while he was

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Speaker 5: we ain't dropping to September, yeah, of that year, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because sometimes something like that happens to teach you

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Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, So what does success look like to

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Speaker 3: Everybody happy? When that's not possible either because you can't

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Speaker 3: feel like that'd be successful. Everybody not calling every day,

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Speaker 3: everybody got their own tea apiece even, But I feel

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Speaker 3: like succession is what I got right now. I come

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Speaker 3: She's smiled every day.

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Speaker 2: I know you gave her a hard time growing up,

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Speaker 3: For sure, If I'm probably what's the worst.

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Speaker 2: When does she realize that this was going to be

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Speaker 2: When does she realize, Damn, I my son really about

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Speaker 3: You start doing shows like every weekend, you ain't at

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Speaker 3: I'm gone, I'm gone, I'll be back. I gotta pay

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Speaker 1: Did you have to do free shows at first? You

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Speaker 3: I did a lot of free shows. I did a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said, it is a job though, you know,

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Speaker 2: for people to be able to to Yeah, to build

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Speaker 1: What other labels were trying to sign you.

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Speaker 3: I was down here seeing Alamo, Colombia, and I was

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Speaker 3: Play one song in the studio, his man, his man.

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Speaker 3: It was like it was like he paused the song

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Speaker 3: Impatient and I'm talking about like my whole life, what

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Speaker 3: And in my eyes, I'm like, people say this all

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Speaker 4: And then he convinced because he kept he called me,

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, even through the process, like we

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Speaker 4: You know, you got to let the lawyer's lawyer.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's like that's what I ain't gonna front.

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Speaker 5: That's what built me. And you know, Baby wanted to

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Speaker 4: We was going back and forth about so many different things.

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Speaker 5: And then once we was able to like make it

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Speaker 4: But it was it was it was a process. I

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Speaker 2: And then you you work with so many well beats,

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Speaker 2: because a lot of times.

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Speaker 3: Like you'll go too nighty, you go to a whole

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Speaker 1: They gotta go to Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: La, you sneak this.

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Speaker 3: In me right now?

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Speaker 4: Wait you I left because I left New York and

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Speaker 3: That was the first thing she said. She sneaked me.

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Speaker 4: It's so good.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean your headquarters. Is it something you ever

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Speaker 3: Yeah? But every time I leave and go somewhere, I

447
00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,439
Speaker 3: want to go back home, Like I'd be somewhere for

448
00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,119
Speaker 3: two weeks or three weeks and be like y'all fool,

449
00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,120
Speaker 3: ain't the same, Like I ain't even eight season, ain't right.

450
00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,840
Speaker 3: I gotta go home real quick, right, So I probably

451
00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,000
Speaker 3: have like a house in two different states, if anything,

452
00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,360
Speaker 3: But I don't think I want listen.

453
00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,680
Speaker 2: People underestimate the food and Detroit too so far because

454
00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,040
Speaker 2: I feel like they had some amazing restaurants. Tell me

455
00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,360
Speaker 2: some of your favorite places to go for everybody listening,

456
00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,960
Speaker 2: y'all got to visit Detroit, but give us some places.

457
00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:59,600
Speaker 3: Where we're going seven figures for sure. I love Chris,

458
00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,240
Speaker 3: so I'm going to throw Christ and there you are

459
00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:08,840
Speaker 3: about that Christ inspire. You think you out of town?

460
00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:09,560
Speaker 3: You feel me?

461
00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,080
Speaker 1: They do got a dress code.

462
00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,040
Speaker 3: Though they got a dress code. You can't smell like

463
00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,800
Speaker 3: no we you feel gonna put you out.

464
00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,280
Speaker 4: So you only get to go there once a month.

465
00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,480
Speaker 3: I probably get the last hour first. I've got the

466
00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,480
Speaker 3: last hour close. I got the last hour before they closed.

467
00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,400
Speaker 3: So nobody being there ain't gonna say nothing to that

468
00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:32,640
Speaker 3: mid West grill, mid West grill is fire. Uh. Coney Island,

469
00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,720
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, Any Coney Islands the same? Any Conney Island

470
00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,160
Speaker 3: from seven mile back? Okay, you hear me from seven

471
00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,439
Speaker 3: mile back to downtown, you would be good. You go

472
00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,560
Speaker 3: anywhere else, you're gonna be mad.

473
00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,840
Speaker 2: T Grizzly did that whole campaign with Coney Island where

474
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:50,360
Speaker 2: he put his.

475
00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,240
Speaker 3: Hour McDonald's like we allowed McDonald's.

476
00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,920
Speaker 4: Though, but there's different. It's a different menu at it's the.

477
00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:01,879
Speaker 3: Most it's the same at all. It just looked different.

478
00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,879
Speaker 3: Just say what you want. We're trying to make it

479
00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,840
Speaker 3: look good inside when we really only sailed three different things.

480
00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,040
Speaker 3: Man picked what you one?

481
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,919
Speaker 5: What's what's that that one strip that's like by uh

482
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:16,000
Speaker 5: this Michigan University's It's like you know, it's like.

483
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,040
Speaker 3: Right up there, it's like sweet water and everything.

484
00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,320
Speaker 4: I think that's what that going.

485
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,480
Speaker 3: Oh you gotta get sweet water when you go to DT.

486
00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,320
Speaker 2: So now you're like a Detroit persona no no, no,

487
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,760
Speaker 2: you switch over on your look. So you had wallow

488
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,560
Speaker 2: out there too, And I saw he's on the answer

489
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,359
Speaker 2: for the album. How did you guys build such a

490
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:32,680
Speaker 2: great relationship with each other?

491
00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,879
Speaker 3: One of his first interviews was with Peas and I

492
00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,399
Speaker 3: was that's like probably three days after I got signed

493
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,399
Speaker 3: to his first interviews with ps PZ. I told me

494
00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,199
Speaker 3: to pull up and that's when I met him. He

495
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,280
Speaker 3: had gotten the car was We really did an interview

496
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,000
Speaker 3: basically in the car he called p he called coach

497
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 3: on the fall call. We never dropped that part though,

498
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,080
Speaker 3: but that's how that happened, and he told me, like,

499
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come back. I'm gonna come back and walk

500
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,160
Speaker 3: through your hood with you. Like and he came back.

501
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,639
Speaker 3: He walked through there, he was comfortable. I took them

502
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 3: to Barry Gordy House. Oh yeah, took them to Motown,

503
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,359
Speaker 3: show to everything.

504
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,119
Speaker 2: That's dope to be able to show because Detroit definitely

505
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,639
Speaker 2: has a lot of history when it comes to seeing

506
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 2: all those different things. What about politics, I saw skill

507
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 2: of Baby doing something with Mary Sheffield the other day.

508
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,640
Speaker 3: But you appreciate her, Yeah.

509
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's great.

510
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,639
Speaker 2: Right, So when you think about that, like, is that

511
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 2: something that you're planning to get involved in? Because I

512
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 2: feel like the good thing about Detroit is the certain

513
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 2: people who are running for office that you actually get

514
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,880
Speaker 2: to see who are out and about that you can

515
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 2: have conversations with and make real things happen.

516
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,679
Speaker 3: For sure. But Mary Mary, like she was helping us before,

517
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 3: like we want her to be mayor if it's possible,

518
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 3: or when it happens, she's going to be our mayor.

519
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 3: She was helping us a long time ago, and now

520
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 3: she got a bigger platform. She helped us steal Like

521
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 3: you don't be having to do with no money. She

522
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 3: ain't calling asks for no money. She probably just want

523
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 3: you to be there and let you let the kids

524
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 3: see you. You feel me. So whatever she we can

525
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 3: help her with, we make sure we help her. Then

526
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 3: she give you an award.

527
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,120
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice.

528
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw she just had her birthday last week too,

529
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 2: So I do really hope that she's run if she's

530
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 2: the president of the city council, you know out there,

531
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,719
Speaker 2: so I think the youngest one ever. So that's what

532
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 2: we really do need because people say bad things about politicians,

533
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 2: but there are politicians, and we need people to run

534
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,159
Speaker 2: for office who actually care about the community and are.

535
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 3: Going to do the trucks giving ice cream all day.

536
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 2: That's now another person that is on your label. Your

537
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 2: label mate is VESO as well. So isn't that nice

538
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,479
Speaker 2: to have like somebody with you that y'all could And

539
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 2: his wife owns the juice bar, Fresh and Press.

540
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 1: They have that.

541
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 3: My brother and Troy.

542
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: Out there is well. The entrepreneurship is so heavy. What

543
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 2: are the things are you interested in besides music?

544
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 3: Like you said, I want to do real estate. I

545
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 3: want to get more into these food tricks, and I

546
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 3: want to open a closed store. But when that happened,

547
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 3: that happened. Okay, But I want to get into real estate.

548
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 3: These food tricks.

549
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 5: You got to tell them about your franchise. And remember

550
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 5: you tried the franchise Raisin kan.

551
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 3: I try. I try to give them like four different

552
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 3: peo people too. They was missing women.

553
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: What's the process to franchise that? It is a difficult one.

554
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:10,719
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just kept emailing the email. They

555
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 3: still said no.

556
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 4: Told me have the money, and I got it right here.

557
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 3: I still have.

558
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: If you re for raising cases, why don't you open

559
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 1: an island?

560
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 3: I want to open the corn Island somewhere.

561
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: Else, right, that would make sense.

562
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 3: I want to open the corn Island somewhere else that

563
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 3: don't know about Corny Island. Then it's gonna be the

564
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 3: biggest thing there.

565
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Speaker 5: But that's so funny here, like for us being from

566
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 5: here here in Corney Island, because it's in Brooklyn, and.

567
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 3: Y'all ain't even got no real Corny Island. Y'all got

568
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 3: the city. That's the city. We have the real con the.

569
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: It's like an amusement park and a neighborhood in Brooklyn.

570
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

571
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 4: From as a matter of.

572
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 1: Fact, yeah, you need to go to Corney Island to

573
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 1: see what that's like. That slid up there and you

574
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: have a you have ail, you have a son as well.

575
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 2: From your son to Coney Island, it'll be fine because

576
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: it's an amusement park. They could go on the rise

577
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 2: and that I'm warriors.

578
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 1: Does your son know you're famous?

579
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 3: Now? He only won? Okay, I'm trying to Yeah, I'm trying.

580
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 3: I'm trying to make him famous Waldmark, anybody need him.

581
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: The timing is good to have a baby, though, you

582
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, a baby, baby money.

583
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 3: A baby baby. I'm gonna have to change my name soon.

584
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 3: It's getting crazy.

585
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: What to big money?

586
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 3: Big money?

587
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

588
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: Well no, honestly, congratulations on everything, and you know, seeing

589
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 2: all the success that you've had and people in your corner,

590
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 2: do you feel like, I know, you said some people

591
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 2: thought you would never get signed and that this would

592
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 2: never happen for you.

593
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you have some haters too?

594
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think that that come with a period, And

595
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 3: I feel like nobody, like I didn't even know I

596
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 3: was gonna get signed, So can't nobody run up on

597
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 3: me like I knew it? No, you didn't you feel me.

598
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 3: I ain't even know it. You feel me?

599
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 4: So his team knew it.

600
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: He said, his team y'all knew it.

601
00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 4: No, I'm talking about Pride to me, Yeah, for sure.

602
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 3: It ain't nobody d D he was knowing it. D D.

603
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 3: He wasn't even getting paid. She knew it. D he

604
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 3: won't even getting paid. She knew it, so d D.

605
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 3: For sure, ain't no in my brother's number. Ain't nobody

606
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 3: running up on me telling me I knew it. I

607
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 3: ain't accepting that because right after that, cash up me

608
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 3: four hours or something because I knew.

609
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: Well, congratulations on everything on the tour, you know, on

610
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 2: the album, him hustling me that you got going on,

611
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 2: and it's great to see it.

612
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 1: So again, glad to have you up here.

613
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: I know when I saw you, I was like, we

614
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 2: got to have you come up to the show and

615
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 2: we definitely made it happen, and thank you so much,

616
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 2: and thank you Wayna, because Wayna was like, no, I

617
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 2: don't want to do but I felt like this was

618
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 2: a good way for people to see the authenticity of

619
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 2: like how it does matter. Some people think there's no

620
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 2: artist development anymore. Some people think that A and RS

621
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: are irrelevant, you know, but that's clearly not true.

622
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 4: Me and him be trying to figure it out.

623
00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: Brother, you play too, But that's it.

624
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 2: But when you think about artists development, that is something

625
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: that does. And look, you're from, you know, Motown, which

626
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: is the home of where we think about Barry Gordy

627
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 2: and quality control for sure, and how they developed artists.

628
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: And so how does artist development happen now? Because like

629
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: you said, you don't necessarily wint an artist who has

630
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 2: the biggest numbers or everybody trying to you know, compete.

631
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I say mostly consistency, like that's that's been the

632
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 5: biggest thing. And sometimes life gets in the way to consistency,

633
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 5: like we were saying about when he had his legal troubles.

634
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 5: But I say consistency like constantly being in the studio,

635
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 5: like I ain't gonna lie. I don't stay in the

636
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 5: studio the five o'clock in the morning anymore, you know

637
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 5: what I mean. But there's days of what I do

638
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 5: is like when it is two hours in get two hours.

639
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 5: But we always communicate and it's like I'm always sending

640
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 5: him be so like he'll call me and say I

641
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 5: want to work on this type of song. Or he'll

642
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 5: send me a certain type of song and say, yo,

643
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 5: like what do you think, and I'll just give him

644
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 5: my insight.

645
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 4: Yo, we might want to put a feature on here.

646
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 5: So it's like just constantly working together for the higher goal,

647
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 5: which is to make him a start, which I believe

648
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 5: he is already, but for the world to realize that.

649
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, good well, we love to see it.

650
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 2: And it feels like a lot of people have been

651
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: wanting to work with you and working with you, and

652
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: so I congratulate you.

653
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: For the journey so far.

654
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: Our music is amazing and you know, I cannot wait

655
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 2: to see you again and have fun on tour.

656
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, Thank you wayno, you all right,