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Speaker 8: That sense helped transform and found this country, and that

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Speaker 1: Hey Jack, Jack in Rome.

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Speaker 8: Wow, great to see you there, brother, Thanks for coming

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Speaker 8: Dave.

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Speaker 11: Yes, we are here in the Eternal City where we

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Speaker 11: have been dispatched by War Room and Human Events. Also

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Speaker 11: really want to thank our sponsors over our Catholics for Catholics,

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Speaker 11: and John Yepp and the great work Beije for help

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Speaker 11: and take care of this.

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Speaker 4: We are here in the Eternal City.

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Speaker 11: As you could see Saint Peter's Basilica directed behind me

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Speaker 11: the Sistine Chapel over my left shoulder.

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Speaker 4: You can see it's very faint. I know the sun

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Speaker 4: is the sun is just behind me.

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Speaker 11: But the chimney that is just above there has been erected.

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Speaker 11: Is where the smoke nor Tom sent black floor white

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Speaker 11: one for the depending of whether or not we have

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Speaker 11: any new polks, which could come as early in just

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Speaker 11: a few hours, it would more likely either in the

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Speaker 11: world or Friday. What we're seeing going on now is

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Speaker 11: the one hundred and thirty three cardinal electors and gather

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Speaker 11: around the world and they are going in one by

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Speaker 11: one taking the vows of silence. They will go with

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Speaker 11: broadcasting life from inside the System Chapel. Right now, let's

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Speaker 11: get this fear and sup course, all of the politicking,

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Speaker 11: all of the rumors, everything that goes on, it will

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Speaker 11: be shut down behind those doors in the confines of

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Speaker 11: the System Chapel itself, where they're turning it into a

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Speaker 11: Fabriday based where no signals if you get your cell phone,

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Speaker 11: even if they bring in some device or if people

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Speaker 11: are trying to use devices to try to FIGURETTE that's

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Speaker 11: going on in there, it will be So this is

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Speaker 11: going to because it's very secure. There's police everywhere, there's

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Speaker 11: security everywhere, obviously a heightened threatened vironment just given them

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Speaker 11: nature of the world. Gap mouth, the yours pray and

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Speaker 11: so of course, Dave, I thought you were when we

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Speaker 11: were talking about earlier what we're all praying for it.

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Speaker 11: As we've seen leans in Europe and in the United States,

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Speaker 11: this resurgence of the traditional Christians. People are tired of

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Speaker 11: the namby and the light, shallow substance lists Christian faith.

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Speaker 11: That's what's bringing zoomers Genesis, urging them into the churches.

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Speaker 4: And so what we're hoping for is.

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Speaker 1: That we get it.

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Speaker 11: Hope a leader here. So by the way, the Catholic

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Speaker 11: even if you're not Catholic, this will affect you because

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Speaker 11: of the billion plus Catholics in the world. This is

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Speaker 11: somewhere where we have the ability to lactually shape the

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Speaker 11: direction of the world going forward.

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Speaker 4: And we want that in a return through tradition, just

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Speaker 4: as we're seeing.

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Speaker 1: Them all awesome. Frame that.

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Speaker 8: Frame that for us when we get back from the break,

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Speaker 8: Jack going out five seconds warm, hang with us back

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Speaker 8: after the break with great Jack Pasobak in Rome say.

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Speaker 8: back with Jack Posobic. Jack, we've been covering all things rome.

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Speaker 8: The mainstream media treats religion only in political terms.

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with that? What do they got wrong? Why

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Speaker 1: do they always frame everything as a war against religion?

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Speaker 11: Thank you, because you tag to understand the war against religion.

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Speaker 11: It's because that religion is not real, So that religion

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Speaker 11: is something that is actually in very way, it is

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Speaker 11: something that is outdated.

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Speaker 4: It's told it's something that people don't need anymore.

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Speaker 11: It's something that people that don't you know that that

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Speaker 11: gets in the way of new laws and these beliefs.

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Speaker 11: I'll give you a great example out in out in

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Speaker 11: Washington State right now, the speege controversy that's going on,

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Speaker 11: one that it's very close to heart for me. So

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Speaker 11: there's a new law that can pass in Washington State

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Speaker 11: requiring priests to have to divulge the contents of confession

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Speaker 11: the authorities in certain cases. And by the way, that

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Speaker 11: doesn't mean when someone says, hey, I might go out

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Speaker 11: and commit something, Okay, we all understand that. But actually

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Speaker 11: to that bold things that have said in the past,

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Speaker 11: and I would certainly call on any any threes who

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Speaker 11: put in that situation do not comply with that law,

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Speaker 11: which is a direct abridginess of the personal menu.

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Speaker 4: But of course they have no problem whatsoever.

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Speaker 11: With writing laws and passing laws in a liberal state

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Speaker 11: that completely abrogate the right to practice your religion freely,

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Speaker 11: free exercise of living in the United States. Why these farsts,

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Speaker 11: they their own ideology the same way that we view religion,

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Speaker 11: do the less. Their belief system is actually theocratic, that

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Speaker 11: is what they are.

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Speaker 4: Trying to put up.

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Speaker 11: And if you don't believe me, well just say that

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Speaker 11: you don't think that transgend and are real women.

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Speaker 4: And see if the response that get.

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Speaker 11: Of course, if you will get a response that is

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Speaker 11: akin to blasphe heresy. You know, some Christians saying something

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Speaker 11: like that about Christ. And so their new situation is

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Speaker 11: they've always targeted Christianity every revolutionary movement, whether it's France,

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Speaker 11: whether it's China, whether it's Bolshevik Russia or even in Spain.

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Speaker 11: Who is the first groups that they always go after?

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Speaker 11: It is the Christians and was the believers because they

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Speaker 11: know deep down that only the Christian and godly belief.

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Speaker 4: Systems can stand in the way of this.

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Speaker 11: And if you go back to the nineteen sixties, really

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Speaker 11: when all of this pound of revolutions started getting going,

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Speaker 11: or i should say the revolution, the pound of whole

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Speaker 11: revolution we got going there, say who was it? What

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Speaker 11: was it that was the very first Artan God in

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Speaker 11: the public square? God in the public square was the

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Speaker 11: first cornerstone they targeted. Why because if you love God

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Speaker 11: and you're in the Bible schools, and then you move

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Speaker 11: there from schools, and then you go after the ten

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Speaker 11: commandment and in courthouses, then suddenly our entire system, which

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Speaker 11: rests on those beliefs, market only have been a crystal

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Speaker 11: majority country. And he's still a christing of our attention.

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Speaker 11: But if we take away that bedrock, suddenly it's all

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Speaker 11: just a bunch of words and you can twist.

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Speaker 4: It to your own sides.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Jack pasobics in the public square literally right now, Jack,

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Speaker 8: I don't know if you know it, but you have

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Speaker 8: a ray of divine sunlight shining across your face. It

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Speaker 8: looks like it's coming from the top of Saint Peter's

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Speaker 8: So you must have been saying your prayers this morning.

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Speaker 8: Why don't instead of covering the negative, let's cover the positive.

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Speaker 4: What what is the what is the.

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Speaker 11: I was gonna say that that dome, that that you

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Speaker 11: see behind me, that you mentioned, that designed by Michelangelo himself,

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Speaker 11: as well as the as we know, the roof of

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Speaker 11: the Sistian Chapel, and in fact, the fiata, the great

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Speaker 11: sculpture of Jesus in his mother's arms is just inside

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Speaker 11: those doors, right behind them.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so yes, get at that, get to the what

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Speaker 8: is the true power of Christianity and the Church and

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Speaker 8: Jesus and the pa time Michelangelo, What what is the

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Speaker 8: true power which the non uh faithful cannot stand? Why

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Speaker 8: is it such an affront to them? What's the positive

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Speaker 8: source of that power?

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Speaker 11: Jack Positive SERTs The power is the connections to the transcendent.

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Speaker 4: Which connection to the transcendent?

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Speaker 11: This idea that we're not just uh, you know, these

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Speaker 11: these bodies of flesh Anthony Fauci, that's having to believed

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Speaker 11: that we are in fact spiritual views, that the spiritual

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Speaker 11: world does exist, that we are in age struggle and

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Speaker 11: it's hard tests were good and evil a spiritual work.

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Speaker 11: And that's truly what's going on. And I think if

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Speaker 11: you look at anything that's happening in United States in

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Speaker 11: the well Sen years, you certainly have to be give

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Speaker 11: the student hunt to exist. But here's the flip side

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Speaker 11: of that. The flip side of that is that Christ exists,

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Speaker 11: that God exists, that these angels exist, that the power

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Speaker 11: of the spirit to connect with God. And then of

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Speaker 11: course we're trained very very deeply, everyone in this square,

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Speaker 11: everyone inside, will train very deeply that the Holy spirits

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Speaker 11: works on the hearts of the cardinal elector, we go

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Speaker 11: in and as well as the other cardinals who can

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Speaker 11: speak even if they're not voting, that the Holy Spirit

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Speaker 11: is present in these proceedings the same way the Holy

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Speaker 11: Spirit was present in the sentol the upper room on

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Speaker 11: hennacoph Actor East. A coming bounds to the apostles, and

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Speaker 11: we want back greatly. That's a absolut.

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Speaker 4: We read to get.

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Speaker 1: Yeah outstand, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 8: And so the whole show today, and the whole show

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Speaker 8: every day, and everything you do every day. I went

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Speaker 8: over Harvard right. The motto used to be truth for

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Speaker 8: Christ and Church. We cover China, which is an atheist

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Speaker 8: regime just every news it and we cover every day.

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Speaker 8: Gets down to kind of this basic split between the

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Speaker 8: Judeo Christian West and the others and the others. And

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Speaker 8: then as soon as we fight for what we believe in,

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Speaker 8: which is just our extended history which founded reason and

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Speaker 8: rationality and science, we get hammered for being political when

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Speaker 8: we just want to be left alone.

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Speaker 1: How do how do Christians respond in this new age

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Speaker 1: where it is a war right now?

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Speaker 8: We don't want to go down in the ditch with them.

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Speaker 8: We want to stay at the heights and have the

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Speaker 8: sunlight shining on our face like you do right now.

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Speaker 8: And so how do how do Christians stay up at

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Speaker 8: the heights, but we do have to fight a war?

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Speaker 1: How do we do it?

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Speaker 11: The way you do it is you stick fire guards

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Speaker 11: when someone comes to you and says, oh, you're braying

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Speaker 11: too hard, or like the Sei came out last year

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Speaker 11: and we're the floor saying, oh, you know the Latin

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Speaker 11: masses are extremists and the pro life when you're building

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Speaker 11: out and praying in front of the plainness that you

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Speaker 11: can be arrested.

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Speaker 4: We know what. Don't stop, never ever stop and hold

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Speaker 4: by your guns.

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Speaker 11: When they say you can't pray that, pray it ten

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Speaker 11: times louder when they say that those that explaining that

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Speaker 11: abortion in playning can go pray, go, get send your

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Speaker 11: friends and then go out there again. Or say you

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Speaker 11: know I'm going to do there every just sleep getting it.

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Speaker 11: That's what it's going to takes. It's going to take

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Speaker 11: spiritual warriors. It's going to take rare warriors to the

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Speaker 11: point where they understand. Look, the Left, the one thing

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Speaker 11: that I'll always say about the left, and always give

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Speaker 11: them credit bard don't sell themselves so short. They are

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Speaker 11: true believers. They are willing to set fires, They're willing

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Speaker 11: to attack the police. So if it's all at the

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Speaker 11: University of Washington earlier this week, they're willing to commit assassinations. Okay,

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Speaker 11: if you meet Maggione or Thomas status Brooks, they are

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Speaker 11: deeply committed to their faith. We need to have devotion

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Speaker 11: to our faith as well, true devotion, even in the

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Speaker 11: face of lockdowns, even in the phase of anthony fallacy,

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Speaker 11: even in the face of wall But you've got to

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Speaker 11: make our beliefs never ever quit. And in fact, when

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Speaker 11: they tell you to stop talking about it, it's doubled it.

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Speaker 4: So just go back down. Double bounced.

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Speaker 8: Steve always say, hey, Jack, I forgot I got the

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Speaker 8: great Gordon Chang and I got to jump on you.

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Speaker 8: But we're going to be back to you all day

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Speaker 8: for the next several days. Thanks for what you're doing, Jack,

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Speaker 8: keep the faith, brother, God bless you a man.

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Speaker 11: And and and Forden of course knows about to let

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Speaker 11: the corrupt deal between the previous fatasy and the CCP.

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Speaker 4: And you're very much thrilling.

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Speaker 1: Yes, great, Thanks Jack, Gordon Chang, are you with us?

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Speaker 5: I'm here, I'm here, Dave.

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Speaker 8: Hey Gordon, thanks very much for coming on. I was

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Speaker 8: excited when Cameron told me we had you today. You're

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Speaker 8: one of my heroes. I wanted to get you on

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Speaker 8: the weakness of China and the economy. Any new data

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Speaker 8: points you got. But if you want to respond to

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Speaker 8: what you just heard there on the Catholic Church and

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Speaker 8: the spiritual war elements versus and atheist CCP.

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Speaker 1: The floor, juris take it over. Gordon. Thanks. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The Communist Party is not just atheists, it is militant

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Speaker 5: atheists because, especially under siege and ping over the last

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Speaker 5: five years, it has gone hard after all forms of faith.

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Speaker 4: In the past, it went after Muslims.

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Speaker 5: It went after Christians, but it generally left what were

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Speaker 5: considered to be homegrown religions alone, like Buddhism. But under

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Speaker 5: siege and ping over the last half decade they have

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Speaker 5: gone after Buddhism as well. This is a full frontal

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Speaker 5: assault on anyone who has any faith at all, and

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Speaker 5: against Christians. It has been taking crosses down off of buildings.

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Speaker 5: It has been taking images of Jesus off of altars,

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Speaker 5: been replacing them with those of Sigeion Ping. It is

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Speaker 5: basically devoided all content of religion in religious services as

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Speaker 5: it relates to the Catholic Church. There was the twenty

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Speaker 5: eighteen agreement between the Communist Party and the Catholic Church.

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Speaker 5: This was certainly an agreement that the Communist Party has

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Speaker 5: violated numerous times. The Church nonetheless has re upped the agreement,

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Speaker 5: which I think is wrong. The first agreement was wrong,

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Speaker 5: and certainly extending it was wrong. I just hope that

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Speaker 5: the Church will take a u turn and start supporting

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Speaker 5: Catholics instead of instead of supporting the Communist Party.

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Speaker 1: Yep, spot on, Well, why don't we pivot from that to.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's not as sublime as religion, but it's

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Speaker 8: just it's real, the whole world in our course over

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Speaker 8: the next decade. Hinges on the question of the strength

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Speaker 8: of China, I think that I think you probably agree

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Speaker 8: with that, So well, why don't you te us up there?

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Speaker 8: How is China doing? Can they sustain this trade war?

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Speaker 8: All the evidence I've seen looks like they are really

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Speaker 8: weakening in a serious way. But you're the expert, so

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Speaker 8: lead us, give us a minute, then I'll hold you

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Speaker 8: over the break.

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Speaker 1: Gordon.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're absolutely right about that. China cannot sustain the

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Speaker 5: trade war. Their only hope is to get President Trump

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Speaker 5: to back down to de escalate. As Treasury Secretary Scott

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Speaker 5: said yesterday, but the Chinese economy was contracting before the

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Speaker 5: trade war, and it certainly is now from all sorts

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Speaker 5: of factors that we can see, this is an economy

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Speaker 5: that is failing and the Trump tariffs are driving it

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Speaker 5: down even more.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, how much have you seen on the thirty seconds

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Speaker 8: on the rioting and the disruptions in the streets, So

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Speaker 8: they're widespread thirty seconds.

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Speaker 4: They're widespread.

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Speaker 5: The Communist Party can contain this now, but if the

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Speaker 5: trade war continues, you're going to see more workers on

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Speaker 5: the streets and they won't be able to contain it

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Speaker 5: because there will be too many people. It was something

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Speaker 5: we saw before the tariffs that has all now become

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Speaker 5: much more pervasive because factories have been closing in greater

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Speaker 5: numbers after the tariffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I encourage everybody you know on the war.

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Speaker 8: We pride ourselves being fully data driven and transparent. Just

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Speaker 8: go out to YouTube, don't take our word for it,

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Speaker 8: just to just type in is China's economy collapsing? And

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Speaker 8: you'll put in videos, search for videos and you'll see

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Speaker 8: a whole host from every region that Gordon's just talking about.

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Speaker 8: So we got Gordon Chang, one of the world's premiere

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Speaker 8: experts on China, coming back after the break Stick with

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Speaker 8: Stick with Us on the war and what I said,

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Speaker 8: I think is very important for everyone to realize if

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Speaker 8: we don't win against China, if they continue on the

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Speaker 8: trajectory they've been on, we would be in serious, serious trouble.

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Speaker 8: As Eric Prince also said early in the show, Stick

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Speaker 8: with a War Room over the break, see you in a.

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Speaker 6: Minute, your host, Stephen k Ban.

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Speaker 8: All right, welcome back to the War Room. Sitting in

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Speaker 8: for the great Stephen k Banned. Today we have Gordon Chang. Gordon,

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Speaker 8: I think go by the way on the TV. I

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Speaker 8: think they just sealed the doors to the Systeine Chapel

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Speaker 8: for the first round of voting, So stay tuned. We'll

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Speaker 8: see how many rounds it takes. But Gordon, you wanted

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Speaker 8: to get at the trade wars itself. How important is

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Speaker 8: to sketch that out a couple of minutes and then

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Speaker 8: give us one minute up front? This country does not

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Speaker 8: think we are at war with China, right. Business folks

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Speaker 8: are still looking for supply chains to China or substitutes

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Speaker 8: the fortune five hundred CEOs. There's no sensibility that there's

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Speaker 8: a war going on, so please enlighten them.

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Speaker 1: Gordon Chang, thank you. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: People's Daily, which is the most authoritative publication in China,

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Speaker 5: in May twenty nineteen, carried a landmark at editorial that

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Speaker 5: declared a people's war on the US. We're Americans, so

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Speaker 5: we ignore proper jams. But that's the term which has

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Speaker 5: great importance for the Communist Party. They call it quote

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Speaker 5: unquote total war. And we have seen this with for instance,

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Speaker 5: they're backing of the fentanyl games, some of which are

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Speaker 5: state owned. They're killing seventy thousand Americans a year. They're

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Speaker 5: going stealing hundreds of billions of dollars of US intellectual

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Speaker 5: property each year, perhaps a half trillion dollars. As John Radcliffe,

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Speaker 5: when he was Director of National Intelligence said, their assault

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Speaker 5: on the United States is across the board, and they

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Speaker 5: intend to destroy the United States. This is not just competition.

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Speaker 5: This is an attempt to kill off America. And they

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Speaker 5: believe they're in an ex essential fight with us. So

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Speaker 5: we've got to defend ourselves. And if we don't, even

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Speaker 5: though we're the far stronger society, Dave, We're going to

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Speaker 5: lose our country.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, give us just twenty more seconds on that piece. Right, So,

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Speaker 8: I think you're right about the rhetoric and the propaganda.

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Speaker 8: We just glaze over it. But they move in thousand

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Speaker 8: year increments, and you know you're the expert on their culture.

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Speaker 8: But why would they even announce it? Why would they

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Speaker 8: give us a heads up that they're at war with

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Speaker 8: the American people.

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Speaker 5: Because they're trying to justify with their strident anti americanism.

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Speaker 5: They're trying to justify to the Chinese people and to

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Speaker 5: themselves a strike on the United States. As one of

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Speaker 5: our famous ambassadors to Beijing, James Lily, said, the Chinese

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Speaker 5: always telegraph their punches. They're telling us what they're going

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Speaker 5: to do because they want to believe that they're in

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Speaker 5: the right. So we have been warned and we are

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Speaker 5: ignoring those warnings, just like we ignored Osama bin Modern's warnings.

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Speaker 8: Right right, No, exactly exactly, Gordon, give us two minutes

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Speaker 8: in closing on the bullet points on the trade war

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Speaker 8: and at what level of trade war should we keep

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Speaker 8: going for what duration to ensure that we stay around

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Speaker 8: as a civilization.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, number, our tariffs are a remedy for the theft

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Speaker 5: of you as intellectual property and for China's predatory trade practices.

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Speaker 5: So when Treasury Secretary of Scott Descent talks about de escalation,

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Speaker 5: if we remove tariffs, that leaves China's trade practices and

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Speaker 5: it's theft of our ip still in place. So we've

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Speaker 5: got to make sure that whatever arrangement we come to

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Speaker 5: with China preserves and protects the American worker. You know,

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Speaker 5: we've had a lot of trade deals with China. China

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Speaker 5: has ignored all of them, not complied, including the last

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Speaker 5: one which was the January twenty twenty Phase one trade deal,

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Speaker 5: which China very easy for China to adhere to its

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Speaker 5: promises of buying certain amount of American goods. Well they

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Speaker 5: even failed to do that. So we've got to protect ourselves.

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Speaker 5: This is not peacetime. We are in a situation where

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Speaker 5: we've got wars in Ukraine, Middle East, North Africa which

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Speaker 5: looked like wars, and now the India Pakistan War. This

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Speaker 5: is a world that is descending into chaos. We need

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Speaker 5: to make in America those things that Americans we can

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Speaker 5: no longer rely on buying stuff from the other side

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Speaker 5: of the world.

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Speaker 1: Yep, I agree with you one hundred percent. I think

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Speaker 1: the war room Polse does too.

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Speaker 8: Go.

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Speaker 1: I think that's very good counsel. The trade deal, it

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Speaker 1: can't end in an easy compromise deal. We need to

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Speaker 1: have a long term win.

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Speaker 8: That doesn't mean the Chinese people have to lose, but

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Speaker 8: that means we need an equilibrium that works for us

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Speaker 8: all in the long run. Gordon Chang, thanks for being

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Speaker 8: we're just a blessing to have you on with us today.

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Speaker 1: God bless you, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Oh well, thank you so much, Dave, I really appreciate it.

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