1 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Hi guys, Welcome to another episode of Diamonds and the 2 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: Rough with myself, Teddy Mellencamp. 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 2: And Hey, I am Erica Jane. 4 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Erica Jane. You've had a busy weekend. 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: Yes, I was with Alex Cooper call her Daddy at 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: the Unwell Weekend in Las Vegas. I had the best time. 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: I hosted the show second night. 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: That's so great. How was it? 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: It was good. She is number one, really nice and 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: took the best care of me and everyone else there, 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: and she's built this really impressive community. The whole thing 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: was just really well done. So shout out to Alex 13 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: Cooper everybody at the Unwell Family. Thank you for being 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: so kind to me. I had the best time. It 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: was really good. 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: I love that. 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: Were you there the day that DJ Meredith Mars was there? 19 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: I saw Meredith. I think that my show was on Saturday, 20 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: her show was on Friday. 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: On Friday? Yeah, and then am I allowed to bring 22 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: up a little nugget that you just shared with me? 23 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: Yeah? 24 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you are okay, So tell me, tell me I 25 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: just saw a little sneak. Yeah. 26 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: I'm coming out of DJ retirement myself, so I'm going 27 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: to start back You know what you saw, Well, you 28 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 2: did Coachella, remember when I did Coachella. But I also 29 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: did like the Mosquito Show the year before. So and 30 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: you know my first husband was a DJ. Oh right, 31 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: that's right. So, I mean it's been in my blood 32 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: for a long time, and I decided, fuck it, let's 33 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: do it, do it again, Let's do it again. So 34 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: I'm excited. Yeah, I'm putting my stuff together now, brushing 35 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: up because you know, you got to do it right. 36 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: And there you go. 37 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: That's so fun. When do you think it'll start soon? 38 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: I think we may have our first gig before the 39 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: end of the year. Really, yeah, I mean I'm still looking. 40 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: I'm putting together possibly. I mean, there's a couple of 41 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: different options here. There's a few different options. But of 42 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: course i'll let you know. Yeah, yeah, of course I'll 43 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: let you know. Come by for five ten minutes. 44 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: We were laughing because the other day. 45 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, come by for five to ten minutes at the gig. 46 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: You know, She's like, yeah, oh yeah, well I mean 47 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: this you're saying that, well, come by because you know, 48 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: who knows how long she want to stay. 49 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I can sure stay more than 50 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: five ten right. 51 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you know it's going to be loud and 52 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: really loud. 53 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: So whatever, it's clubbing, you crack me up. 54 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: I was actually really inspired because we went to the 55 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: opening of the Marquee reopened Unwell had their after party 56 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: at one of the after parties at Marquee, and they've 57 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: done a beautiful reopening. Shout out to Marquee and at 58 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: the Cosmopolitan in Las Vegas stunning. Like the club, it's 59 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: like clubbing is back. I feel, yeah, I feel as 60 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: if dance music is back. I mean it never really left, 61 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: but my love for dance music has returned, and it's 62 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: nice to get up there and have some fun. 63 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: That's cool. I like it. I like it. I'm proud 64 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: of you. 65 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: Thank you babes. 66 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: They're always like, it's really an inspiration because you're always 67 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: working on the next thing. 68 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: I think it's important for my brain. It's just how 69 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: my personality works. I need to be busy. I enjoy creating, 70 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: and this is something that I've always loved and I've 71 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: always done. 72 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you had to pick your favorite way of performing, 73 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: would you say it's djinghing? 74 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: No, it's like being on Broadway or my own show, 75 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: my own Erica Jane show, like the one in London 76 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: for Mighty Hoopla. Yeah, I mean I love the DJ bit. 77 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: You're playing other people's records, right, and you're hyping a 78 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: crowd up. But when you're doing your own show, it's 79 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: like you're doing your own show. Yeah, you know, that's 80 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: a different that's a different relationship with an audience. Yeah 81 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: than standing behind decks. 82 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: And showing a different type of vulnerability. 83 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just really like throwing your entire body and 84 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: soul into it. 85 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: Are you missing Broadway at all? 86 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: A little bit? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. I had 87 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: a conversation the other day about possibly going back. 88 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 89 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, it's a real commitment, which is great, 90 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: but it takes a lot out of you, but it's 91 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: so fucking worth it. Yeah, you know, it's fucking worth 92 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: it at the end of the day. 93 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing. 94 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: At the end of the day. You have to check 95 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: these things off. 96 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on right now, 97 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: and then you know, we'll reconvene when we when we 98 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: get to Bravo kan Oh god, are you going yes, yeah, 99 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: I think two panels. I know I'm gonna need. 100 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: You, Okay, that's fine. I'm gonna need you. I don't 101 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: know who's open who you know? That is a to 102 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: everybody that's listening. Bravo con is great. I mean, it's 103 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: great for the audience and it's a great way for 104 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: everyone at Bravo to to say thank you and give 105 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: FaceTime to all of those that support everyone on Bravo. 106 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: But it is a hard schedule for four days. Yeah, 107 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: it is a very very demanding schedule. And I do 108 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 2: show oh yeah. But there's something about that in person feel, 109 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: you know, that's it's it's demanding and meeting so many people, 110 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about, the energy of so many people. 111 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: And being on for so long. Yes, yeah, a lot. 112 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: It's a lot, but I'm sure Bravo makes the killing. 113 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think and it is a fun way 114 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: for all the housewives to kind of meet each other 115 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: that haven't met before, or to see people that you've 116 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: gotten along with and or I always enjoy that. 117 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: I enjoyed that too, because a lot of the people 118 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: I don't know from other shows. Yeah, and it's nice 119 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: to connect with them and say hello. I mean, and 120 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: a lot of us other housewives we don't know each other. 121 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, and without this pod, I wouldn't probably watch 122 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: all of the different franchises. But now that I know 123 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: every single franchise, I'm like, Okay, do I walk in 124 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm high, like have yourself or am I like? 125 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: Oh shit, this person probably hates me. 126 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: So what that's part of the game. They know what 127 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 2: the deal is. How about the Salt Lake Girls getting 128 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: the cover of what is it us? Or something? 129 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: I know, but it was from the Vanity Fit from 130 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: the original Vanity Fair Desperate Housewives. 131 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: That's fine. 132 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: I think it's fine now for them. 133 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: I was with Heather Gay at the Unwell weekend. We 134 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 2: had a nice moment together. She's really sweet. I've never 135 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: really had that kind of in person FaceTime with her. 136 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 2: But they're doing really well. Yeah, that show's doing really well. 137 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: Good for them. 138 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: I mean you you wouldn't even believe it. 139 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: I've never watched a show, and but I know You've 140 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: always been like a really good fan. 141 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I'm they deliver, They deliver, and then they 142 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: move on and then something else. And I mean they. 143 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: They could be the strongest Housewives franchise. 144 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: They could be right now, sure, I would say, yeah, yeah, 145 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: that's fair. 146 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: To say. 147 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: I think, you know, they put in the work, and 148 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: also the past is right, they have is right, they 149 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: have fun, and I think that's the part that's missing 150 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: from so many of these franchises. Yeah, it's having fun. Yeah, Like, yes, 151 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: these these women fight, but then they always go back 152 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: to like laughing, partying, doing whatever. And I think that's 153 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: where a lot of the other places they clock it 154 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: in and they clock out. 155 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they get it wrong. Yep, I listen and I'm 156 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: on a show. I agree, Yeah, I agree, I agree, 157 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: all right. Raw Housewives of Orange County Season nineteen, Wow, 158 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 2: Episode fifteen, Take it Away. 159 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: So Shannon hosts a lunch for Jen. Gretchen arrives first. 160 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: Shannon says, the girls think Gretchen acts like Tamra. 161 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: Oh I can see that. That was actually I liked 162 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: Shannon saying this. 163 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if she doesn't stoop to her level, no 164 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: one will say that. Gretchen has a list of points 165 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: of reasons why she's not like Tamra. 166 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: So this looks prepared, like have you yeah, she on 167 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: this for a while, is this a yeah? Prepared? 168 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: And then when they go to her confessional, she has 169 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: it written out. 170 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: And something on the bottom on her phone. 171 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, she says, I don't have it. These are the 172 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: reasons why she says she's not like Tamra. Meanwhile, doing 173 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: this makes worse, worse, like girl, this, she says, especially 174 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: her first one, I don't have a child, calling me 175 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: a manipulator and a liar. 176 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: Not yet, she's too little. Yeah, your day's coming, Your 177 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: day's coming. It happens to all of us. I'm not 178 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: just saying you. 179 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: I haven't been sued and lost because of my lives. 180 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: Then almost suit again for another lie. She's talking about 181 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: the Jambalino and the Ryan. 182 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: It can happen to you too. It's just not yet. 183 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: I'm telling you. 184 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: I know, quit speaking in absolute right. I didn't reach 185 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: out to Tamar's ex to try to get dirt on her. 186 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: But you know what she's saying something that I don't 187 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: think is necessarily true. 188 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: Oh you mean about the recording. Yeah, yeah, I'm not 189 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: profiting from people's pain her podcast. You are because you're 190 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: on the show, so you're getting paid to be on 191 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: the show. We all profit off each other's pain. Yeah, 192 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: sows flash, and it's part of the gig. 193 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not harming or constantly hurting my friends. 194 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: I don't know about that. 195 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: We don't know. We haven't really seen you because the 196 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: one time that you were hanging out with your friends 197 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: is when you were talking about Tamra. 198 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: Oh you mean it the sleepover? 199 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't. I don't really know. And then 200 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: other than that, I've just been seeing her yelling a lot. 201 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: Well, she came in with something in mind, and she's 202 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: stuck to the plan. I'm not disclosing information my friends 203 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: asked me not to talk about like she did with 204 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: Shannon and her dad. 205 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: Isn't that what this the whole season is about, the 206 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: things that she's disclosed about. I mean, I hate to 207 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: keep saying about Tamra, but that's what she's doing every 208 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: single time. 209 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: I wish we could talk about something else other than Tamra. 210 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: And that's no shade, But I'm just tired of talking 211 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: about Tamra. 212 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: But it's it's exactly what she's doing. She's creating this, 213 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: she's creating all the question about Tama. 214 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, like I said this a few weeks ago, 215 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: how cool would it have been if she'd come in 216 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: and had no grudge and they could have gotten along? Oh, 217 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: at least for a couple episodes and then blow out 218 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: over something present, not seventeen years ago. Correct, nobody, I 219 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: don't even remember seventeen hours ago. 220 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: Her next one is, I don't have excess coming forward 221 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: to publicly say I'm a liar and a cheater. 222 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: Well, honey, you ain't living well. 223 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: And I feel like that might also not fully be true. Yeah, 224 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: I mean her ex passed away. So the one that 225 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: she had all of the like, oh, rumors and drama 226 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:57,359 Speaker 1: with on the show. 227 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna give him a pass because he's on Yep. 228 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: I don't call or DM bloggers and try to get 229 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: them to post horrible things about my castmates. Oh uh, 230 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: Gretcher's Gretchers, I thought you hated that. I knows you 231 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: lose me with the first one. I think it's gross. 232 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: The first one. I don't have a child calling me 233 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: a manipulator and a liar. 234 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: Not yet. I'm telling you, your daughter's young, you're going 235 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 2: to hear those words. All of us parents get it. 236 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: It's just a matter of time love. And that's no 237 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: shade to anybody because we all get it. As you know, parenting, 238 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 2: do you how do you like that? Parenting of three children? 239 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: You know it's it's non stop. Slate was mad at 240 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: me the other. 241 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: Day and she called you a manipulator or a liar. 242 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: Yet no, but she said, I you said we were 243 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: going to have a conversation about it, and I said 244 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: we did have a conversation. I just said no, and 245 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: you don't like my answer, and she slammed that door 246 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: so fast. 247 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: I hope you broke that door down. 248 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: I was like, I open the door. I go, if 249 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: you have an attitude about this one more time. This 250 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: is being taken away and it's something that's important to 251 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: her and she was like, right, yeah, And I was like, yeah, 252 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: we I realized that you're becoming a teenager and you're 253 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: about to go through the Change or whatever that movie 254 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: the First Change. Yeah, but you're going to need to 255 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: cool You're yeah, because it's hard. You know, once they 256 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: become teenagers, it's a whole different ballgame because then the 257 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: entire world revolves around their plans and what they want. 258 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what she's mad at me about is 259 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: I said that she could go to a Halloween party 260 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: the night before Halloween with all her friends, but I said, 261 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: on Halloween, you're going to spend it home. With me 262 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: and like we we go to the same Halloween party 263 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: every year. Yeah, and I'm like with all the kids 264 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: everybody goes. This is what happens. You have friends there, 265 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: we have family there, like we have Yeah, that's what 266 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: we're doing. And she wanted to go to the other party. 267 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: Well, this is going to become a you know, more 268 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: increasingly thing as she grows older. But I think that, 269 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: you know, people don't know this, but Teddy, she's a 270 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: very calm parent and then she will click out on 271 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 2: them and be really, you don't let those kids get 272 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: away with shit. Shit. No. She' you're very nice and 273 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: then you're like, Okay, that's enough and you're very tough. Yeah, 274 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 2: like you you will not act like that. I've seen 275 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: it in person. 276 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: I was like, ah, yeah, we won't. We won't. We 277 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: won't be behaving this. No, you won't be talking. 278 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 2: You will not be talking like that. 279 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: No, no, AnyWho. Then Shannon asked everyone to go around 280 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: the table and give Jen their marriage advice. 281 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 2: Which I thought was kind of fun. 282 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you feel about the way Shannon 283 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: was at the beginning when she was kind of flipping 284 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: out about the stemware. 285 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: Listen and I'd rather see somebody flip out about stemware 286 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: than drag each other through the mud about other shit. 287 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 2: Like flipping out about stemware is a housewives thing that 288 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 2: I welcome as opposed to hurting each other's feelings so deeply. 289 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 2: Does that make sense? 290 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, you're right. You're right on that. 291 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: Remember, like in the Derete Champagne thing, Like, I'd rather 292 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: do that than all the other stuff that we've seen. 293 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: And yeah, you know, I'd rather like silly fights than 294 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: really digging deep, in digging deep and just kind of hurting. Yeah, 295 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: because she's you know, she's pretty worked up about it. 296 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: She seems very excited about the party. Jen didn't seem 297 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: that excited. And I don't know if that was being 298 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: ungrateful or just not into it or both, or. 299 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: Just or just doesn't have a date yet, and so 300 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: she feels like it's strange to have a. 301 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: Would I say, though, if somebody's going to throw you 302 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: a party, just say thanks and have a good time. 303 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, say thanks, have a good time. Clearly they spend 304 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: a lot of money on it. 305 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, say thank you. I wouldn't. Yeah, just be gracious. 306 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: All the time, because she knows and I remember when 307 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: she served one croissant at the beach party. These parties 308 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: are expensive, yes they are, and production is not paying 309 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: for it. 310 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: No. No, And I saw something on TikTok on it. 311 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: Maybe I shouldn't even bring this up, but I see 312 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: like these people that say that they are quote ex 313 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: showrunners and they are talking about behind the scenes things 314 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: about what Bravo pays for and shit like that. That's 315 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: not true. 316 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: It's not true. They'n's not true. There may be a 317 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: certain amount that they. 318 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: Any lot girl and it ain't shit. Yeah, it's so 319 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: get it together. Yeah, so you ain't nobody paying for 320 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: that white party. 321 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, then I. 322 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: Are not writing those checks. 323 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: Yep, Nope, they are not doing that. But when Shannon 324 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: asked everyone to go around the table, Tamra says, your 325 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: second marriage, you know what to do, you know what 326 00:15:59,040 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: not to do. 327 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: I agree, I agree. I mean, I think if you 328 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: know your second marriage is something that you know thinking 329 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: about the first self reflection, Hey maybe I don't want 330 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: to do whatever. 331 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: Again, right, but then you can make new mistakes beyond. 332 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're always going to make mistakes. I think that 333 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: marriage or humans or any type of relationship, you're always 334 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: going to make mistakes. It's just hey, I'm not going 335 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: to do that one again. Right, You're gonna have your 336 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: own unique set of problems with this marriage. 337 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: Shannon says, communication is key, obviously. Yeah, I didn't need 338 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: to know that John Janssen farted under the covers. 339 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 2: I don't need I don't. I don't like that. 340 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: Shit. 341 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: Do you fart in front of Edwin? 342 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: I mean, now, well. 343 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: I bet you. I bet you'd have a blowout in 344 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: front of him, just just just because how about this? 345 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: How do you feel about that? 346 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: Sorry? 347 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: I hate to be such a teenager, but. 348 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I would say there are probably times 349 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: in the sixteen years one way I've slipped out. 350 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but not on purpose. 351 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: Not on purpose. 352 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, That's why I like having two bathrooms. Yeah, 353 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: two separate bathrooms. I go over here, you go over there. 354 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 2: You know, if accidents happen, that's one thing, But not 355 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: on purpose. 356 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. But then, as Shannon's talking about communication is key, 357 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: somebody asked her, I forget, who are you talking about 358 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: with John? Are you talking about with your with David? 359 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: I think she said both, right, and then she said 360 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: both both? 361 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, both. So she considers her relationship with John 362 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: like a marriage. 363 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, let's not go that far. It was 364 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 2: an important relationship. I don't know if it was a 365 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 2: quote marriage, but it definitely was enough to get upset 366 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 2: about and have all these problems with. So why not 367 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 2: you know that legal problem, That's what I'm saying. That's 368 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: a fucking marriage without having being married. So true, you know, 369 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: it's as the same as a pain in the ass 370 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: as a marriage. 371 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: Yep. Gina tells her not to lose herself and have 372 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: your person be a compliment to your life. I think 373 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: that's a really good piece of advice. 374 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: Very good. And Emily says everyone has a person, and 375 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 2: I agree with that. 376 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: I mean, but you could have more more than one person, 377 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: more than one. 378 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 2: Person in a lifetime. 379 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: I think so too. Ye. Then Gretchen says faith is 380 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: an important part in her relationship. 381 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to attack anyone's faith. 382 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: I I if that is true, I mean that is 383 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: true for her, That's great, I mean whatever. 384 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And then Heather says people will judge or make 385 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: comments about you. 386 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 2: Let them you have to. Yeah, she's there are all 387 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: these are like whose advice would you take most seriously? 388 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: They're all good things here. I mean, you know, nobody's 389 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: giving stupid advice. 390 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: Whose advice would you take the most seriously? 391 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: Not to lose yourself? Yeah, I think should the person 392 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: be a compliment to your life. I think that a 393 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: lot of women do that, and we do it just naturally, 394 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: were naturally built to, you know, take care of the 395 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: family and take care of the husband and kind of 396 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 2: put our needs or our lives second. And I think 397 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: that that's a super important one. 398 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, Just. 399 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: To remind everybody out there too, you know, make sure 400 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: that you're you're taking care of too. 401 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Then we're back to the farts because then Emily 402 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: asks whether she farts in front of Terry. She says 403 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: she doesn't fart. 404 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 2: Well, what, Yeah, And I'm down with that answer. 405 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: You know what, it doesn't happen. 406 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: That's great. 407 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: The fact that Shannon is still finding ways to bring 408 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: up John Jansen, though, do you find that odd or no? 409 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 2: I think it's just conversation. I didn't have that much 410 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: value into It's her last relationship of consequence, so whatever. 411 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: I don't really you know, it's not that big video. 412 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of, but it makes me a little 413 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: bit sad. 414 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 2: I didn't even take it as that. I just thought 415 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: it as like she was just laughing, and she was 416 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 2: just laughing about things that were, you know, in the past. 417 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't lean that much into it. 418 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: Yep. Then the girls are going on a trip to Amsterdam. 419 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: Heather's parents lived there when she was in college. Kind 420 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: of cool. 421 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was kind of a cool thing. 422 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: Heather brings up her dad's ashes and doesn't know where 423 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: to put them, Okay, so and then you know, Terry 424 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 2: thinks about bringing it to Amsterdam where he lived. Here's 425 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 2: the thing. I was immediately taken back to mercy in 426 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 2: the purse. So I'm just going to say. I was like, 427 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: are we going to get into these ashes? And then 428 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 2: Heather opens up about her dad and how he was 429 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: a corporate dad and they didn't have much of a relationship, 430 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: which you know. 431 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: It's pretty common. 432 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 2: It's common, and it's sad. Yeah, you know, corporate dad. 433 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: I never heard that phrase. 434 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: No, but it's a good one. 435 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 436 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 2: I don't know if she made it up or not, 437 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 2: but it's a good one. 438 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: They're all sitting around, you know, at this Bridle not 439 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: Bridle shower and they're like, we should go on a 440 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: trip and they're like someone warm somewhere, Warm somewhere this, 441 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: and then someone's like Amsterdam. 442 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 2: Magically, they're in Amsterdam. I'm not going to say a 443 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 2: word on this. I'm contractually bound, not. 444 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: Too so, but it magic Whose trip is this? 445 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 2: By the way, it felt Honestly, it kind of felt 446 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 2: like Shannon's and then it kind of felt like Heather 447 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: had a piece of it, like I you know, I 448 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: used to go there in college, so you know, I 449 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: mean that's all I can say. 450 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: Then Tam and Eddie go to dinner. Tamar gets annoyed 451 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: with how Eddie is chewing Oh. Marriage, Yeah, that's marriage. 452 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 2: That's marriage. 453 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: Yep. Tamer says she thinks the problem in their marriage 454 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: is that they don't communicate and then it all explodes. 455 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: Eddie says the way she talks to him sets him. Often, 456 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 2: usually she's drunk and she comes at him. Yeah, I 457 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 2: mean I get it. He's valid, he has his point 458 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: of view. 459 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I think he's saying, you know, I haven't. 460 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: Seen him show remarkable control, more so than any man 461 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 2: I've been married to would have. So Eddie, Yeah, I 462 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 2: mean I think that you've handled yourself in some situations. 463 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: I know mister Girardi would have fucking leveled me at home. 464 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: I'll tell you that. 465 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: Well. She asked if she if he thinks she has 466 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: a drinking problem, and Eddie says, for their relationship purposes, 467 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: she shouldn't drink and just come to him. 468 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: I agree. Yeah, nothing good is with alcohol. I mean, 469 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: I just it just doesn't Liquor and personal relationships like 470 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: that home just it's not good. It does not work 471 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 2: out well for anybody. And I'm not just saying you 472 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: so don't get offended. I just say as a full 473 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: on blanket statement, it's not. 474 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: Good when we're unhappy and we're drinking. 475 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 2: It's bad. 476 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: It's bad. It's bad for everybody. It's bad what you know, like. 477 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: And it just there's a limit to drinking, like there's 478 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 2: a limit to everything, Like one drink, two drinks, cute, three, 479 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: I start to become an asshole. Yeah, and I cannot 480 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: do that anymore, I. 481 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: Know, and then I feel like death the next day. 482 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just is anybody really drinking? 483 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: I enjoy like one or two drinks. 484 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 2: Yes, that's my max. I had two drinks over the 485 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: weekend and that was it because I just don't I 486 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 2: want to do other things. Yeah, you know, I don't 487 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 2: want to wake up in the morning and feel like 488 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: I feel terrible. 489 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: It's just like, oh yeah, but I think that this 490 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 1: conversation is a lot of couples. I think you know 491 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: that you many couples. Yeah, when you. 492 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: When alcohol gets involved, it's never It can start out 493 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 2: fun and it usually ends up in a in like 494 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 2: a bit bickering or even sometimes a snarl like I 495 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: I just don't like myself on liquor like this in 496 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 2: a relationship. 497 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Then they all go to Amsterdam. 498 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: Amazing, like all of a sudden, we arrived in Amsterdam. 499 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 2: How did this happen? The magic of TV. 500 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: There's no mention of no Katie really erased. 501 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: I told you you erased from the record, just like. 502 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: Whoo yeah, no mention of no Katie. They arrive in 503 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: Amsterdam and they go on a boat in the canal. 504 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: Typical the outfits. 505 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what they were dressed like and I'm down 506 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 2: for it, But it was like the day were they 507 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 2: going from day to night? 508 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think they all wore the same thing 509 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: to dinner. 510 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it like Emily with the cutouts during the 511 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: day bold yeah, somebody with the lace body suit with 512 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: the thong bold. I mean, I'm giving it to you guys. 513 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: Like I was like, wow, could we Wow? Somebody said 514 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 2: you better. We got one outfit for the entire thing. 515 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: And they said, let me put on my nightwear. 516 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, they said let me put on my nightwhere And 517 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: somebody even said I forget, which maybe it was doing 518 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: like I think they think we're street walkers. 519 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: Good good, I mean, I love it. 520 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: Then Emily asks Shannon if she thinks Tamar was being 521 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: shady when she brought up her dad's drinking, and Shannon 522 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: thought it was a dig and she's not able to 523 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: forgive her. 524 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: I think it is a dig. I think it's better 525 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 2: to get over it, you know. And I know that 526 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 2: I said in a pod before, like you can see 527 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 2: you know I can say I you know things about 528 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 2: my dad, but you can't. So, but I think you 529 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 2: can get over it. I think there's you know. 530 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: Tamra says she can't apologize, but Shannon can't. Shannon brings 531 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: up being called a seaword multiple times at the dinner table, 532 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: and Tamra says, are you a sea word? How would 533 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: you have responded to Tamer's question. 534 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 2: No, tam I'm not. I'm right. So there you go. 535 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: I mean, you know I would have just said we 536 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: all are and moved on. 537 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 538 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 539 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: And you know, it's interesting how that word is. So 540 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: what is the word I'm looking for? It's like such 541 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: a big deal here in the States, but like if 542 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 2: you go to the UK, everybody's calling each other. 543 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but whatever, I mean, they are in Amsterdam. 544 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 2: Close enough for me. But then again, you know. 545 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: Emily, Tamra and Jen go to a store to decorate 546 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: a penis interesting. Yeah, Emily asked Jen about her vagina. 547 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: Jin says it's healed up nicely and now it's fine 548 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: and she's good to go. 549 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Great, I mean I think that's wonderful. She had 550 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: her pelvic floor fixed. 551 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: Her pelvic floor fix, and then she said she had 552 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: some things cut off the front. She had all the things, 553 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: all the things, and now she's good to go back 554 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: to having good sex. 555 00:26:52,200 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 2: That's great. We love a rejuvenated queen. Get that badge rolling, Well, 556 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 2: you're about to get married. I mean you're gonna be 557 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: using it more than you probably. 558 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: Want, more than you are now, more than you. 559 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: Are now, because it's about keeping it together. 560 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: Then Heather brings up boundaries and how Jen is still 561 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: close with Alexis. Okay, so this just to give you 562 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: a little backstory. Heather bringing up how Jin is still 563 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: close with Alexis is a little bit of a thing 564 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: right now, because apparently Alexis also invited Heather to her wedding. 565 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Heather declined to go. 566 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: But Heather's original response on why she declined was it's 567 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,719 Speaker 1: my daughter's thing, it's my daughter has something at school. 568 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 2: Okay. 569 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: But then when she went on watched What Happens Live, 570 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: she said she added something else. Oh shit, Yeah, she 571 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: said I had my daughter's thing and I'm not really 572 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: that close with them as a couple. 573 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, Well, and so it's putting herself at distance 574 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 2: with Alexis. 575 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: Yes, And then Jen says she got to save the 576 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: date but has not been invited. 577 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: What does that mean if you got to save the 578 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: date but then didn't get invited. 579 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: Well, I know what that means, because I just had 580 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: Alexis on the pod. So Alexis ended up disinviting Jin 581 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: because or not actually sending her an invite because she 582 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: started pulling away from her. 583 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: Okay, well, look these things happen. I mean, it's not y'all, 584 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 2: what did you expect? I mean really? 585 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? But Jen, we literally see you tell Shannon you 586 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: will not go to the wedding because of her. Yeah. 587 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: I'm not going to make promises like that. Yeah, you 588 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: should go not go to the wedding because of you, 589 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: not because of someone else. 590 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. So now are we It's just back to the 591 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: wishy washiness. Yeah, we're just back to wishy washy. Then 592 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: Emily feels Jin wasn't into her bridal lunch. Jen says, 593 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: it's not her thing. 594 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: But it's you pretend like it's your thing because someone 595 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: is going above and beyond for you pretend, you know, 596 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: if it's not your thing, you keep that to yourself. 597 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying on camera, yeah you know, like 598 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: it's not gonna it's not gonna. You know, you do 599 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: realize that by you saying that it's going to become 600 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: a thing, right, Like you do realize that. 601 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: Well, then Tamar thinks Shannon through the bridal shower for 602 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: herself to get back at Tamra by being close with Jen. 603 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's for the show. It's not that deep. 604 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: You think it's not that deep? 605 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: It's not that deep. 606 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: Then, Gretchen tells the girls that with Tamra, fighting fire 607 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: with fire is the best way to handle it. She 608 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: thinks Tamara only responds to strength. 609 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: She could be right. You know, what do you think? 610 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, tamor will. 611 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't think fighting fire with fire is the best 612 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: route with Tamra because I think she's going to keep going. 613 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, she doesn't. 614 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: She'll just keep going, She'll keep going. I think the 615 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: best way for me, at least. We've only had one 616 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: argument that was like contentious, contentious, and I just kind 617 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: of had to like, even though I wanted to fix. 618 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: It right away, Yeah, I had to let it stay. 619 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: I had to let it sit there for a minute. 620 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: And then she got over it and I apologized, and 621 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: she apologized and then it was done. But it was like, 622 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: give her a second of space to let her kind 623 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: of process and not be reactive. Yeah, because that's the thing. 624 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: If you're reactive and then you're fighting somebody with fire. 625 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: Yes, I could see where that would escalate the sitution. 626 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: I would escalate. And then they go out to dinner 627 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: and Shannon ate a space cake and was high. 628 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 2: But we could get high here in California, Like, is 629 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: the weed that much better in Amsterdam? 630 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: Do you think Shannon was playing up that she is 631 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: more high than she actually was, Like when she was 632 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: like getting down under the table to try to find 633 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: her barette and all those kind of things. 634 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 2: Well, we have seen her bring pots and pans to stuff, but. 635 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: She did cook. We found out she did cook. 636 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: Okay, here's the thing. I don't eat weed for this 637 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: reason because I don't know how it's going to hit me. 638 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: So I can't really say I don't know. I don't know. 639 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how much. What is the 640 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: space cake anyway? So gummy? 641 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: No? So apparently they had either I think they said 642 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: cookies or cupcakes. 643 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: But what's in it? Just cannabis or is it hash 644 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 2: or what? 645 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: What? 646 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: What is a space cake? 647 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. 648 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to go to space. 649 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: Something something that makes you spacey, maybe more spacey, more spacey. 650 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: But then Tamra goes under the table to get Shannon's 651 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: hair clip. They're all getting along and they make it 652 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: out of it and it makes it look like make 653 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: it out of Amsterdam alive. 654 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: Well, I think that getting high is if you're yeah, 655 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'm agreeable when I'm not drinking. Yeah, 656 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: but what do you mean not making out of it 657 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,719 Speaker 2: out of Amsterdam alive? Is it all going to blow apart? 658 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: And I wonder what I wonder what will be the 659 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 2: catalyst for it to all blow apart? 660 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: My guess is it's all going to blow apart. I 661 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: would guess that things are not going to stay so copathetic. 662 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: It's a cast trip, cast trips, I tell you. 663 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think we have a lot to come 664 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to this group of ladies in Amsterdam. 665 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: Are you enjoying? Did you enjoy this episode? I think 666 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 2: it's a great setup for what may be coming. 667 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: I think it's a good setup for what's maybe coming. 668 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: I think it was a little bit of a filler episode. 669 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 2: Well you have to have those, yeah, especially you have 670 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: to have the builds, you know, you can't always have. 671 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think we're not so it's so focused 672 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: on Tamera and Gretchen. 673 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little over it. 674 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm a little over that. Like I want more. 675 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: Of other cast members. 676 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want more things. 677 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 2: I think you want to see more. I think if 678 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 2: I were to guess, and you can tell me if 679 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 2: I'm totally wrong. I think that you, maybe, knowing your personality, 680 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: would like to see Jen called out in her behavior 681 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 2: a little more. 682 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought so I would. Yeah, I think that. 683 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: You think she's wishy washy. I know where you're going. 684 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: I think she's wishy washy and it bugs me. And 685 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: then it also, you can't always be on. You can't 686 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: always play the middle. 687 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 2: Yep. You have to take a position. 688 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: You have to take a position. And if you're always 689 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: going to play the middle, then I think it starts, 690 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: it starts weighing on you. Well maybe, but maybe she's 691 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: not going to because I think Gen's first. 692 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: Well what happened between Well, how do you get first seat? 693 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 2: Be in the middle? 694 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: I know That's what I mean. So we who knows what's. 695 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 2: Not that you compete for first seat because it means 696 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 2: you had a fucking shitty time as somebody who had 697 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 2: the first seat. Let me let me tell you that 698 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: was like awful. 699 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I mean we don't of course we don't 700 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: necessarily know what a first seat means, but a first. 701 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 2: Seat usually means you get mixed up in it. Yeah, 702 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 2: you've got a lot of explaining to do. 703 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: And so far, she hasn't no so far. 704 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,439 Speaker 2: If I were to look at that, I would say, 705 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 2: so what, yeah, well Tamor is probably Tamar has the 706 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: other first seat on the other side, yes, well duh, 707 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 2: yeah seat. 708 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: So one side is Tamara, Gina head there, Katie okay, 709 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: and then the other side is Jen, Emily, Shannon, and Gretchen. Yeah. 710 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: I know it's it's a weird lineup, which leads me 711 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: to believe they they are going to be changing for us. 712 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: Well, I guess are they going to get mad? Like 713 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 2: what's happening here? Does somebody have a complete breakdown? 714 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you think that because Gretchen's been 715 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 1: involved in a lot of the drama, she should have 716 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: been more forward even though she's just a friend of. 717 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 2: No, I think that's where they put the friends. Yeah, 718 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 2: just even though she worked a lot. I think that's 719 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 2: just kind of how it goes. I mean, do you 720 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 2: think she's speculating like on a ten years I don't know. 721 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 2: By the way, nobody else does either, So don't don't 722 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 2: get cute. 723 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 1: We have zero idea. 724 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you just kind of show up and here's 725 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 2: your spot and you. 726 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 1: Go Really, but would you say Gretchen is willing a lot, 727 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: or would you say this is who Gretchen is. 728 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 2: Ah? Both. I think that Gretchen is working a lot. 729 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 2: I think Gretchen has worked really hard as a friend 730 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 2: and and came in with a clear agenda. I mean 731 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 2: these notes as to how she's different, and then the 732 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 2: referring back to the twenty seventeen like you know, they 733 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,959 Speaker 2: talk about doing your homework. She came in prepared, which 734 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 2: is annoying. 735 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: Which is annoying. 736 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 2: And I've consistently said that I would have liked it 737 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: had Gretchen stayed in the present moment. 738 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: Because I would say, this makes it like I don't 739 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: even know Gretchen. 740 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 2: Like, well, I don't know the present day Gretchen. Yeah, 741 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 2: like I know the Gretchen that's like beefing out over 742 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 2: fifteen years ago of beef. 743 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean, Like we haven't gotten to 744 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: know her what she's like. 745 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 2: But she's right right now, what she's up to right. 746 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: Now, because that everything has been. 747 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 2: About the past, and I just think that that's a 748 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 2: real wasted opportunity, especially if she wanted to go forward 749 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 2: on the show. You know, it's okay to have like 750 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 2: you know, you need both you need, Hey, this is 751 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 2: who I am. Hey, this is my past, but this 752 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 2: is how I see myself going forward. Just to constantly 753 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 2: point backwards is a one trick pony in my opinion. 754 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: And it gets old. 755 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 2: It gets old. And if you want to stay on 756 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 2: and you you have to grow and evolve. Yeah, and 757 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 2: even if that means you're not you know, in the 758 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 2: forefront all the time at least shows some growth or 759 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 2: some some ways forward, which I think was a real 760 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 2: missed opportunity on Gretch's part. 761 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: Do you think Gretchen is doing it on her own 762 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 1: or because she's been coached by slave? 763 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 2: Oh? No, this is a two person situation, and I 764 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 2: think it's an old I think as the Housewives evolved, 765 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 2: just like however many seasons it's been on, it feels 766 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 2: very old school Housewives playbook. You can point towards the past, 767 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 2: but it can't be your whole thing. You can say, hey, 768 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: I feel this way because of X, Y and Z 769 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 2: in the past. However I'm putting my best foot forward 770 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 2: or whatever. I think that the key to remaining interesting 771 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 2: and is evolving, even if your softer side or more 772 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,479 Speaker 2: vulnerable side, you don't always have to be on it. Yeah, 773 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 2: on it one hundred percent of the time. But then 774 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 2: but it's also only you didn't do anything. Well, yeah 775 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 2: I did. I was growing, Yeah I did. I was 776 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 2: letting things go. Yeah I did. I was looking at 777 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 2: things differently. But then again, you can just always played 778 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 2: at the cheap seats, which a lot of people do. 779 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 2: And I have a list. I got a list, and 780 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 2: I'm fucking good at this list. 781 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: It's listed out. 782 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: I will never I know, but you and I probably 783 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 2: share a lot of the same. 784 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've probably shared the lot of the same. Yeah, 785 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 1: it's just enter dialogue. Yeah. Thanks guys for tuning in 786 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 1: to another episode of Diamonds in the Rough. We are back. 787 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: Do we have two or three more episodes left? 788 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. We have two, I think, and then 789 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 2: we have. 790 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,720 Speaker 1: Reunion Union, which I would guess it's a three partner. 791 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, I'm excited listen. Once again, 792 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 2: I've enjoyed doing this show with you. I'm excited to 793 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 2: see the next episode and the one after that, so 794 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see what happens, all right, guys, thank 795 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 2: you so much for tuning in, and like I don't know, 796 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 2: it's good to see you Ted, good to see you too, 797 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 2: Thank you, Bye bye.