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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome in Late Kick is Live. It is Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: April seventh. Dear of Our Lord, twenty twenty two. When

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Speaker 1: society tries to make you the bad.

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Speaker 2: Guy, don't find it, just go away. I'm gonna talk

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Speaker 2: a lot about that.

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Speaker 1: On tonight's show jam Packed, Hi a top downtown Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Favorite decade in the history of this sport could be

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Speaker 1: the thirties, could be the two thousands. We will discuss.

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Speaker 1: Is Ryan Day the next Kirby Smart? Your question, not mine.

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Speaker 1: We're opening up the mail bag tonight. Got some interesting

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Speaker 1: things though to say about Ryan Day. Also, let's just

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Speaker 1: look ahead.

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Speaker 2: Why don't we to the next decade or so? Who's

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Speaker 2: likely to emerge?

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Speaker 1: Had a question about blue bloods, And maybe not who's

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Speaker 1: the next blue blood, but which programs could be the

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Speaker 1: next ones to pop off? We are very excited to

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Speaker 1: have you in here tonight. Now, I think you need

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Speaker 1: to know about me as we kick the show off.

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Speaker 1: And I've talked about this before, so I don't like parties.

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Speaker 1: I don't even celebrate my own birthday. I try not

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Speaker 1: to even let people know it's my own birthday. But

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Speaker 1: that's an info tells me that it is our two

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Speaker 1: hundred and fiftieth episode. And while I'm anti party, management

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Speaker 1: did want us to have a party. So from seven

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Speaker 1: oh one to seven oh one and thirty seconds we

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Speaker 1: have a party planned. We're just going to do it

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Speaker 1: right here on air. So get your cameras ready. We

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Speaker 1: have the graphic, Yeah, we have the graphic. We have

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Speaker 1: the balloons. Yes, we have the balloons. We have the

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Speaker 1: production minion here. Okay, we do here you go, folks,

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Speaker 1: enjoy it. Let me back up, take your pictures three.

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Speaker 2: To one.

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Speaker 1: And that's it all right. We will see you at

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Speaker 1: show number three hundred. Sincerely, though we do appreciate you

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Speaker 1: being tuned in, it's just that we're kind of like

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban around here. We're focused on the process a

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Speaker 1: lot more than the results. So two fifty we started

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Speaker 1: in Brentwood. What column we started in Brentwood? Didn't ask

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Speaker 1: permission to start the show. We just kind of started it.

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Speaker 1: And here we are, show number two hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 1: As we enter, we have done a lot of things

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Speaker 1: that we should not have been able to do in

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Speaker 1: a mere two hundred and fifty shows. That's on you,

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Speaker 1: not on us. So we would inflate the balloons all the

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Speaker 1: way if you guys were here in the studio. But

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Speaker 1: as it is, that's the end of our celebration. They're

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Speaker 1: watching us tonight, believe it or not. In Yokosuka, Japan,

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Speaker 1: had to look up the pronunciation on that. When I

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Speaker 1: think I'm right Sioux City, Iowa, I'm right on that.

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Speaker 1: When Denver, Colorado, Hot Springs, Arkansas, they're all tuned in.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, guys. Let's dive into the show. Why mess

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Speaker 1: with what's been working. We're going full mail bag tonight,

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Speaker 1: having a lot of fun with this. How about this

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Speaker 1: first question. We're even going to have a couple of

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Speaker 1: them on the screen at the same time. One of

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Speaker 1: you asked today about what I think about Jimbo Fisher

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Speaker 1: kind of saying Texas A and M is going to

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Speaker 1: be the villain in recruiting, and then another person asked,

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Speaker 1: who's in line to be the next villain in college football?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for all you do, appreciate the questions both of

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Speaker 1: you there, So before I answer this, if you don't

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Speaker 1: know what's being referenced here, you know Jimbo Fisher in

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Speaker 1: Texas A and and they just signed the highest rated

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Speaker 1: class of all time in the history of the twenty

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Speaker 1: four seven in sports team recruiting rankings. You know that

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Speaker 1: they had more five stars in this class than the

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Speaker 1: this class twice as many actually as the entire ACC.

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Speaker 1: We talked about that the other night. Well, Jimbo Fisher,

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Speaker 1: I think either yesterday or day before, after one of

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Speaker 1: their spring scrimmages and spring practices, was asked about Texas

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Speaker 1: A and M and how a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: throwing around different allegations and putting different labels on A

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Speaker 1: and M villain, bad guy. Well here's what Jimbo Fisher

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Speaker 3: Because they have to get used to it. Just have

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Speaker 3: to keep doing it. I have to keep recruitment. But

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Speaker 3: And then you know, whatever they feel and say, I

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Speaker 3: before that you know, all the things that went on

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Speaker 3: affecting college football, but that wasn't the case with us.

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Speaker 3: That's why I said what I said on the other

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Speaker 3: So I don't know. You have to ask them more so,

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Speaker 3: it and making them all man.

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Speaker 2: Own it, lean into it. The world needs heels.

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Speaker 1: WWF could have never risen to power without a foil

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Speaker 1: for hul Cogan in the eighties. Triple H did his

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Speaker 1: best work as a heel in the late nineties. In

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Speaker 1: my humble opinion, embrace the heel mentality.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 1: If you're a Texas A and M fan, you should

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Speaker 1: follow his lead and not care what anyone else thinks

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Speaker 1: about you.

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Speaker 2: But to everyone else out.

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Speaker 1: There who's kind of still trying to figure out how

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Speaker 1: to process Texas A and M, didn't you guys tell

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Speaker 1: me for the longest time you wanted someone new.

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Speaker 2: At the table?

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Speaker 1: Didn't you tell me you were tired of the same

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Speaker 1: three or four programs? And it's rhetorical, the answer is yes,

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Speaker 1: because I keep noticing in my DMS some of you

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Speaker 1: does Texas A and M think they are?

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Speaker 2: Whomst are they to step.

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Speaker 1: Up and secure a number one overall recruiting class. Now,

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Speaker 1: a lot of you have a proper not with so

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Speaker 1: much the what that being them at number one? You

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Speaker 1: went about doing it. Well, here's what I'll say about that.

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Speaker 1: No one ever brings me proof of anything. They just

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Speaker 1: bring me message board allegations. I have yet to have

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Speaker 2: I know what the whispers are. I get it. But

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Speaker 2: here's the thing. There's a new world that we live

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Speaker 1: They embraced it, kind of like Georgia in twenty seventeen

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Speaker 1: not criticizing them all that much because I don't think

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Speaker 2: But even if I was, who cares? Like what Jimbo

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Speaker 1: Someone today accused me of being a little giddy when

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Speaker 1: I talk about A and M recruiting, and I didn't

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Speaker 2: Because it's what.

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Speaker 1: Everyone else out there claims to want. There's new blood Texas.

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Speaker 1: A and M hadn't to my knowledge, they haven't won

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's a villain because apparently no one likes them.

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Speaker 1: USC is the same way Lincoln Riley is going to

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Speaker 1: be the same way on the West Coast. No one

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Speaker 1: likes you, tough, don't worry about it. I think one

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Speaker 1: is trying to be liked. Who are you really accountable to?

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Speaker 1: If you're Lincoln Riley or Jimbo Fisher, who are you

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Speaker 1: really accountable to? You're accountable to your administration, your athletic director,

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Speaker 1: You're accountable to your fans, to your donors. You're accountable

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Speaker 1: Nobody cares what someone in Alpharetta, Georgia thinks. All due

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Speaker 1: respect to Alpharetta, no one cares. There's what people there

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Speaker 1: because I don't ever remember a time where you would

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Speaker 1: and there wasn't a bad program out there, a bad

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Speaker 1: Remember the early two thousands. We're gonna talk about this

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Speaker 1: a little later. Remember the early two thousands. I've spoken

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Speaker 1: guess your villains would be Texas A and M. I

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Speaker 1: guess your villains would be Lincoln Riley in USC, especially

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Speaker 2: In our world, the media world, everybody's.

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Speaker 1: Looking for any excuse twenty four to seven pun intended

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be drowning in it, and you'll go right

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Speaker 2: College football needs villains. I have no problem with it.

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Speaker 1: I would love to be in that position, because they

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Speaker 1: don't ever hate you when you're winning six games.

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Speaker 2: They don't. Now a lot of you are resorting to that.

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Speaker 1: Age old go to when a program is in the

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Speaker 1: building process of well, yeah, A and M can sign

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Speaker 1: all these kids they want to just to go eight

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Speaker 1: make you bet your next month's salary one way or

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Speaker 1: the other, will Texas A and M win double digit games?

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Speaker 1: Over the next three years. You're not betting. No, be

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Speaker 1: real with yourself. You know they're about to win. Now

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Speaker 1: are they going to win a championship? That's an entirely

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Speaker 1: different discussion. But you guys don't really think that they're

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Speaker 2: Or nine wins.

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Speaker 1: Not even the most hard core U or of anim

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Speaker 1: to place the bet with you.

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Speaker 2: I'm right here. Your piece is coming out again. I'm

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Speaker 2: right here on that one.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on because this next question kind of I

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Speaker 1: think is going to wrap back around to this, but

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Speaker 1: it's going to expand to a lot more programs too.

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Speaker 1: Trent in Fort Myers, Florida, what are the five non

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Speaker 1: I didn't include Miami here. People would argue they're blue

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Speaker 1: they do it in every other sport why is college

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Speaker 1: football the only sport that doesn't you say that in

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Speaker 1: a negative connotation. I take it as a compliment, Like

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Speaker 1: as a college football fan when people tell me college

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Speaker 1: football is the only sport not doing this or that.

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Speaker 1: Most of the time, I wear it as a badge

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Speaker 1: of honor.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: Chances are what you're saying is part of what appeals

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Speaker 1: to me about this game. So yeah, regular season pageantry, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: those are two of the main reasons I think that

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Speaker 1: our sport has set itself apart from the rest of

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Speaker 1: the field for a long time. Next question here leisurely

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Speaker 1: paced so far twenty minutes in huh.

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Speaker 2: This was from Rayqwan.

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Speaker 1: Ray Kwan said, what does Ryan Day need to do

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Speaker 1: to get over the hump?

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Speaker 2: Like Kirby?

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Speaker 1: And this is from what do we think that is?

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Speaker 1: Maidowan Mattawuan, West Virginia. Somewhere in West Virginia. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for watching.

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Speaker 2: So this is funny.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because the standard in college football is so

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Speaker 1: out of whack because of Nick Saban that Ryan Day

458
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Speaker 1: has lost five games in four years and people are

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Speaker 1: asking how does he get over the hump?

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Speaker 2: He's over it. There is no hump. The only hump.

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Speaker 1: Quite literally, he hasn't gotten over is winning a national title.

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Speaker 1: Winning a national title, this is going to be the

463
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Speaker 1: most obvious statement of the evening. Is extremely hard. It's

464
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Speaker 1: not like Nick Saban makes it look. It's not like

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Speaker 1: Bama has made it look. People don't even need to

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Speaker 1: apply that scale to any coach, much less one who

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Speaker 1: is half a decade in to his head coaching tenure. Now,

468
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Speaker 1: did he get handed a very very privileged situation.

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Speaker 2: Of course he did. Did he earn it? Of course

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Speaker 2: he did. So. It's not like he's It's not like

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Speaker 2: he was born on third base.

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Speaker 1: Contrary to allegations that have floated around the Big Ten.

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Speaker 1: It's not like Ryan Day was born on third base and.

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Speaker 2: Was not qualified to come home. They could have given

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Speaker 2: that job to anyone. They chose Ryan Day. He took

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Speaker 2: the job. They didn't give it to him. He took

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Speaker 2: the job.

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Speaker 1: The guy's lost five games in four years, and I'm

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Speaker 1: being asked, how does he get over the hump? But

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Speaker 1: I'm not trash and rakwan. There are a lot of

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Speaker 1: people who think this way. There are a lot of

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Speaker 1: people who are critical of Ryan Day because the standard

483
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Speaker 1: is so insanely High. It's the same way it was

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Speaker 1: with Kirby. Remember when Kirby got to the National Championship

485
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Speaker 1: game in his second year and it was that twenty

486
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Speaker 1: seventeen game and they got blown out by Alabama. No

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Speaker 1: check that they didn't get blown out, did they? They

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Speaker 1: went to overtime with Alabama in his second year. It's

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Speaker 1: a bounce of a ball either way. You know how

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Speaker 1: the game ended, famously, but it's a bounce of a

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Speaker 1: ball either way. If you've gotten to overtime of a

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Speaker 1: National championship game, you were good enough to win the game.

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Speaker 2: You may not win the game, but you've been good

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Speaker 2: enough to win the game, obviously. But they didn't win it.

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Speaker 1: And in the bottom line sort of nature of this industry,

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Speaker 1: there's this grand Canyon perceptionally between having won one and

497
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Speaker 1: having not won one, and that's not reality.

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Speaker 2: The caliber of coach, the level of program.

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Speaker 1: There's not this huge gulf between them winning that game

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Speaker 1: and them coming out on the wrong side of an

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Speaker 1: overtime thriller. They're the same caliber program. But because Kirby

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Speaker 1: didn't win it that night, there were folks asking down

503
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Speaker 1: South every day that ended in why is this just

504
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Speaker 1: another mark Rick. Is he underachieving? No, he wasn't underachieving.

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Speaker 1: I got news for you. By the way, it was

506
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Speaker 1: never an insult to be compared to Mark Richt. Mark

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Speaker 1: Richt came that close in twenty twelve too. How different

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Speaker 1: would Georgia football be if Mark Richt would have had

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Speaker 1: one more play in his back pocket in twenty twelve. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that to say it's happening with Ryan Day now.

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Speaker 1: I hope for his sake they can win a championship soon,

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Speaker 1: because if not, he's gonna have to listen to some

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Speaker 1: of that same foolishness that you had to listen to

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Speaker 1: about Kirby Smart. I mean, they were knocking on the door.

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Speaker 1: Georgia has been in it every year aside from the

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Speaker 1: first year. Even Saban had a mully in his first year.

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Speaker 1: They were in it every year. But because he hadn't

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Speaker 1: won a national championship, which is so insanely hard to do.

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Speaker 2: You are exist thing, by the way.

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Speaker 1: In the same period as the greatest dynasty in the

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Speaker 1: history of the sport. So the fact that you haven't

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Speaker 1: won a championship your first five years as a head

523
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Speaker 1: coach is not nearly the insult. People think it is.

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Speaker 1: But Curry had won one until like ten minutes ago.

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Speaker 1: So now all of a sudden he's arrived. Now, all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's great. He's no different than he

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Speaker 1: was last December when he got run out of Atlanta

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Speaker 1: by Alabama.

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Speaker 2: It's no different.

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Speaker 1: It's the same guy. He already was good and now

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Speaker 1: he's still good. Ryan Day already is good and probably improving.

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Speaker 1: Because they're very young. Nick Saban wasn't at Alabama the

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Speaker 1: fifth year into his head coaching career. I assure you

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Speaker 1: of that. So Ryan Day has no hump to get over.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, like the way I view the sport,

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Speaker 1: he has no hump to get over. There's nothing Ryan

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Speaker 1: Day needs to prove to me. But I do understand

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Speaker 1: how important championships are.

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Speaker 2: I get all that.

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Speaker 1: I understand that this is about results at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day. But Raikwan, I don't perceive him as

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Speaker 1: needing to get over a hump. So yeah, I guess

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Speaker 1: he's in the best position to be the next coach

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Speaker 1: to win his first title.

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Speaker 2: But they're gonna be there every year.

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Speaker 1: Do you put yourself in position when we get to November?

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Speaker 1: Are you in position, are your playoff hopes and Big

548
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Speaker 1: Ten championship hopes still alive at that point? Virtually every year,

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Speaker 1: the answer to that question for Ohio State football is

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Speaker 1: gonna be yes, if you can get to November. And

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Speaker 1: the answer to that question is yes every year. You

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Speaker 1: just you simulate this stuff enough times, you go through

553
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Speaker 1: this enough time, you're gonna win one. Maybe they'll win four,

554
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Speaker 1: but they're gonna win one. It's not a question of if.

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Speaker 1: To me with Ryan Day, it is a question of when,

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Speaker 1: but until we get there because of the way the

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Speaker 1: conversation gets shaped so often in this sport, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be folks even though he's got what.

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Speaker 2: Five losses in four years? Four losses? Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: I undersold him. You're gonna have people who ask, when's

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Speaker 1: Ryan Day.

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Speaker 2: Gonna win one? When's it gonna get over that hump?

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Speaker 2: God bless you, Ryan Day.

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Speaker 1: I'm told they're paying him enough that he is able

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Speaker 1: to deal with that criticism. But still, from a principal standpoint, A,

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Speaker 1: I bristle at it sometimes, so I'll stand up for

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Speaker 1: Ryan Day.

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Speaker 2: I'll defend you. Ryan come on the show whenever you

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Speaker 2: Now, this one.

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Speaker 1: Created a lot of debate today. Question what is your

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Speaker 1: favorite decade of college football? Mine is the eighties or

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Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties was going to be my initial answer here,

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Speaker 1: but the more I thought about it, I mean, we

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Speaker 1: got really in depth on this today, I think the

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Speaker 1: two thousands is my answer. Obviously, I was not alive

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Speaker 1: to as a fully functioning adult or even kid, view

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Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties. I don't know, other than the history books,

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Speaker 1: what the seventies were like, but I know what the

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Speaker 1: two thousands were like. And I do remember the nineties too, obviously,

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Speaker 1: But I know I grew up, I came of age

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Speaker 1: if you will, in the two thousands.

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Speaker 2: So here's what we had.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make my argument there's gonna be a strong

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Speaker 1: nineteen nineties rebuttal I know that. But my argument for

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Speaker 1: the two thousands being the best decade for college football.

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Speaker 1: We had eight different national champs LSU in three with

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Speaker 1: Saban and seven with Miles. They repeated. You had Florida

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Speaker 1: repeat in six and eight under Urban Meyer. Now USC,

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Speaker 1: remember you had that split title in three, so USC

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Speaker 1: won an AP title in O three and then they

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Speaker 1: won the BCS and four. So I guess really we

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Speaker 1: had three multi year champions. But because there was a

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Speaker 1: split title there, we still had eight different national champions

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Speaker 1: That's the first. There was just a lot of variety

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Speaker 1: in the way the seasons ended. And I know how

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Speaker 1: much you guys love that. I'm not against it either.

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Speaker 1: We had some classic games. I mean that five Rose Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even really think about talking about the individual games.

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Speaker 2: You had t bow.

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Speaker 1: You had the emergence of Urban Meyer as a great

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Speaker 1: college coach. You had the emergence of Nick Saban as

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Speaker 1: a great college I mean, you had Mac Brown win

653
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Speaker 1: his national championship, You had Bob Stoops win his national championship, Bobby.

654
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: Bowden won another one.

655
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Speaker 1: But also think about this, think about the sport reaching

656
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: its apex. The nineteen nineties were a great decade. But

657
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: what the nineties did is it kind of slingshot the

658
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: sport into the two thousands, and there was a massive

659
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: investment on the part of television, and the television product

660
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: came a long way in the two thousands. Coverage of

661
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: the sport immensely grew. In the two thousands. You could

662
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: watch every single one of your team's games. Also, stadium

663
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: expansion booms happened in every conference. There was this because

664
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Speaker 1: of the influx of TV money. There was an investment

665
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: in facilities and everyone started upgrading in that vein. But

666
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: also our Casey Costgrove, who works here and does a

667
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: great job on the tech side. He speaks words I've

668
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: never even heard of before. He brought up a good point.

669
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: Tray Scott brought up a good point. How many times

670
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: have I said that on the show? Not too many.

671
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: They both brought up a good point today. Casey said,

672
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: think about what College Game Day was in the two thousands,

673
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: and think about what College Game Day Final was in

674
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Speaker 1: the two thousands. Game Day hit its peak in the

675
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: two thousands. That was musty TV every Saturday morning. But

676
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: College Football Final with Rhys Davis and Mark May and

677
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: Lou Holtz was I'm gonna put this as kindly as

678
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: I possibly can a vastly superior product to what is

679
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: offered today. And I even know a lot of you

680
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: who hated on that product at the time retroactively now

681
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: agree with that and wish you could get that combination back.

682
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: It was authentic. It just had its own flavor. It

683
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: had mass appeal, but its own little cult feel to

684
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: it felt like a community, kind of felt like our

685
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: show feels. You either kind of get it or you don't.

686
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: But most everyone got it, and so it was also

687
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: appointment viewing. I mean, my day was not complete. I

688
00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: didn't care if it was two o'clock in the morning.

689
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: My Saturday was not complete until I had watched College

690
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: Football Final and they slapped those stickers on the helmets

691
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: at the end. Then and only then, had you put

692
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: a bow on your college football experience. So game day

693
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: was great there, College Football Final was great. The television

694
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: product overall hit its apex. The sport boomed at every level.

695
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: In the two thousands. We had great teams, we had

696
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: eight different champions. What was not to love about college

697
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: football in the two thousands.

698
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, you had the beginning.

699
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Speaker 1: Of what has become the greatest dynasty in the history

700
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: of the sport when Nick Saban arrived at Alabama. But

701
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: you also had usc run off a little mini dynasty.

702
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: You had Florida under Urban Meyer when two of them

703
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: in three years, so you had several sort of many dynasties,

704
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: and then you had the birth of a major dynasty. Also,

705
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: you know what else sort of came of age in

706
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: two thousand, online sports betting for college football. Some of

707
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: you don't care about that, but what you could do

708
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: in the ninety versus what you started to be able

709
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 1: to do mainly offshore in the two thousands was a

710
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: totally different ballgame that college fantasy. Some of you were

711
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: into that. But betting also really really turned to corner

712
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: technologically in the two thousands.

713
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: So I went with the two thousands.

714
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: I know the arguments for the nineties, like, you're not

715
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Speaker 1: gonna get me to push back hard on the nineties,

716
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: But the two thousands for me, best decade in history

717
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: college football. Let's go on to the next question, which

718
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: was yes, this one, this one, this one I had

719
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: to think about for a second. Andre from Jonesboro, Georgia asked,

720
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Speaker 1: what would you think about moving to a plus one system?

721
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: Have the bowl games as normal? Then afterwards you have

722
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: the fourteen playoff. You can re establish the meaning of

723
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: Bowl games. Plus it's quasi expansion without actually adding more games.

724
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: Back when we had the BCS and we started to

725
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: have two camps form in the latter portion of the

726
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: two thousands, this was one of the camps. There was

727
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: one camp that said, let's just have a full fledged playoff,

728
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: and there was another camp that said, let's just have

729
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: a plus one.

730
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: Let's keep the.

731
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: Same model, but after all the games are played, let's

732
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: have one more game that Pitt's number one versus number two.

733
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: At the time, I didn't see much of a need

734
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: for that.

735
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: You had very very rare instances like four or an

736
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: undefeated Auburn, an undefeated Power five team did not get

737
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: a chance to play for a title. Yes that was

738
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: a shame. Yes we needed more than two spots that year.

739
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: But outside of that, like I've told you before, just

740
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: because people were complaining to me did not always signify

741
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: there was something wrong. People complaining at the end of

742
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: the year is not the worst thing in the world.

743
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: I'd rather there be one too few at spots than

744
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: four too mini spots.

745
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: I never had a problem with that.

746
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm a regular season guy, so whatever

747
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: the postseason was was, whatever the postseason was. But I

748
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: love bowl season, and so what that plus one model

749
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: was being proposed to do, I would get anything to

750
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: have now, because what that would be is you would

751
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: forget about seeding the playoff the day after conference championships.

752
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: You would just seed bowl season. You would just send

753
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: teams to their traditional tie ins, so you would you

754
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 1: would be one hundred percent sure to have your Big

755
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: ten in your Pac twelve out in the Rose Bowl,

756
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: you'd have your Big twelve sec and the Sugar Bowl,

757
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: the Cotton would be what it's supposed to be, the

758
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: Orange would be what it's supposed to be. You would

759
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: have all the traditional tie ins. And then after that,

760
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: if you wanted to have a number one versus number

761
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: two for a national championship or I don't care even

762
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: see the playoffs, have your one versus four and three

763
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: verses two after bowl season.

764
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 2: I'd give anything for that today.

765
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: I mean, that is so much more preferable to me

766
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: than expanding the playoff, because to me, that's killing something

767
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: that doesn't need to get killed, and that is the

768
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: sanctity of the regular season. I know, the counter argument there.

769
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: We don't need to go down that road. You know why,

770
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: I disagree with the counter argument too, So we don't

771
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: need to go down that road. But if we were

772
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: to do that this year, you know, if we were

773
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: to have Bama Cincinnati, we would have Georgia Michigan instead

774
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: of having those playoff games there, Let's say that we

775
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: just seeded all of those New Year six games and

776
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: we put teams where thever they get put, and then

777
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: after that we pick your playoff.

778
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: I'd prefer that a whole lot more.

779
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: Obviously, because of the lack of television inventory and because

780
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: of what you call a model that gives more teams

781
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: more hope in an expanded twelve team format or whatever

782
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: the case may be, We're probably not going to go

783
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: down that road. But Andre boy, now that I know

784
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: the consequence of having a playoff in the sport that's

785
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: already decided at least the field being decided before bowlseason,

786
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: and knowing what it does to the regular season to

787
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: some extent, certainly the rest of ball season, I'd give anything, yeah,

788
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: to have that plus one format. I'd definitely be on

789
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: board with that. Next up is a question about chills

790
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: Trevor asks, what are some of your favorite chills moments

791
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: for various stadiums you've been to, example, when the snare

792
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: drum starts as the core walks the team in at

793
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: Kyle Field.

794
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 2: I got some for you.

795
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: One of them was an actual moment, but a lot

796
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: of these are just generic events. So I got to

797
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: take you back to twenty seventeen. Clearly, if this is

798
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: shot from the eye Josh, By the way, I was

799
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: on the field for the ending of that twenty seventeen

800
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: National Championship game with Tua to DeVante Smith, and it's

801
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: a walk off between two teams in my market because

802
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: I was in Columbus, Georgia at the time.

803
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: It's up the road in Atlanta.

804
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: It's like a dream scenario for people who if you

805
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 1: grew up on the Chatahooche River, which quite literally divides

806
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: those two states, Alabama and Georgia.

807
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: You can't ever draw it up any better.

808
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, you're standing on the field

809
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: and you've got your eye Josh in your hand and

810
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 1: I started recording and just hopped in the dogpile.

811
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 2: How professional is that? By the way, you're there, you're.

812
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: Wearing a professional media credential, and your first instinct is

813
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: to scream, turn your phone on in that order, and

814
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: jump in the dogpile. Fortunately, as far as I know,

815
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: no broadcast feed footage exists of that ratchet activity on

816
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: my part, and we did get some good footage out

817
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: of it on our end, So that night speaks for itself.

818
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: But then some other things that do it for me.

819
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: Now everyone gets chills in their own unique way. But

820
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: Week one kickoffs, I don't really care where I am.

821
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: Think about what this time of year is. We got

822
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: one hundred whatever days we have until kickoff, and you're

823
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: going through spring, then you have your spring game. Then

824
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 1: you know you've got to go through May and June,

825
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: and you just got to do whatever.

826
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 2: You can to survive as a college football.

827
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: Fan, because eventually you'll get to July, at which case

828
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: you get to take a time out for Independence Day,

829
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: and then you know you got media days coming up.

830
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: And after Media.

831
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: Days, it's like a couple of weeks until the pads

832
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: start popping and fall camp opens. We're good. We're already

833
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: on the downhill slide by that point. But there's so

834
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: much talking that happens, and everyone has every one of

835
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: their expectations mapped out, and you've gone through preview magazine season,

836
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: and you've gone through talking season, and you've gone through

837
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: prediction season. But that final countdown when they tee it

838
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: up wherever you are in week one, whether you're sitting

839
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: at home, whether you're in the stadium, whether you're blessed

840
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: like we are, and you get to be on the

841
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: field that last thirty seconds or so, when those teams

842
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: start to come out on the field and they tee

843
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: it up and boom, that whistle blows and toe meets

844
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: leather and the season is underway. That'll get me. I

845
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: don't care where I am. That'll get me. Another thing.

846
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: You could pick any team. I picked Alabama because we

847
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: haven't shown this team entrance. You could pick any team

848
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: team entrances. We talked about Virginia Tech several times over

849
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 1: the past month. The reason I picked Bama is because

850
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: I've been at a number of their games and I'll

851
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 1: go down to the end zone where they take the field.

852
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: So what they do is sort of pro wrestling ish

853
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: in its own right. They'll come out of their locker

854
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: room and they're walking down a tunnel to the entrance

855
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: to the field and they do kind of a trail

856
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: camera shot where if you're in the stadium, you've seen

857
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: this before in Branton, any stadium you got Nick Saban,

858
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: he comes out, does that menacing walk down the tunnel,

859
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: you got a camera following him the whole way. Thunderstruck

860
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: by ac DC is playing over the loud speakers, and

861
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: if you're on the field where I am, you can

862
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: kind of see up the tunnel. But if you're in

863
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: section you know, three p. Thirty eight, you're just watching

864
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: the jumpo trime and it's it's literally like Goldberg when

865
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: he used to walk from his locker room out to

866
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: the stadium. It's the same field and then there they

867
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: are and they emerge from the tunnel. It's that element,

868
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: and you also have the added bonus of knowing, Oh,

869
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Speaker 1: also I just happen to be witnessing the greatest of

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Speaker 1: all time. So there's that. But team entrances all over

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Speaker 1: the country will do it for me. Here's another one

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Speaker 1: that maybe you think of, maybe you don't. Team stadium arrivals.

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Speaker 2: I love.

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Speaker 1: It was referenced in the actual question when you get

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Speaker 1: to a stadium early. I get there three hours early.

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Speaker 1: You got about an hour before business really picks up.

877
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Speaker 1: As good friend of the program Jim Ross would say,

878
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Speaker 1: you're standing there, stadium's empty, it's not open to the

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Speaker 1: fans yet, and there's that first faint sound of police sirens,

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00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: which means's team arrivals are imminent and they're coming. And

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00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: then they pull up, and if you're on the road,

882
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: you got hostility. If you're at home, you got jubilation,

883
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Speaker 1: and you're walking through a sea of humanity that is

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Speaker 1: in friendly colors.

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Speaker 2: But from that point forward, it's game on.

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Speaker 1: That last little moment between the time that your ears

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00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: first catch that hint of a police siren to the

888
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 1: time they pull in, that's when you take your last

889
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 1: few deep breaths and then you know, hey, you only

890
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: got twelve of them, and one of them is about

891
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: to go down. You wait your whole year for it.

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Speaker 1: I love that moment, and also rivalry games in general.

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Speaker 1: Try and get to as many of them as I can.

894
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: Been to the Iron Bowl several times, got to go

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Speaker 1: to ou Texas this past year. But I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: being at Michigan Stadium, being at the Big House in

897
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: the snow, no less, and watching Michigan break the streak

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Speaker 1: that Ohio State had been running up on them being

899
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: able to witness that in the same year that we

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00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: saw that Red River Shootout Classic that never gets old,

901
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 1: and the build up to those games in the environments

902
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: ever get old. So rivalry games, stadium arrivals, team entrances,

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00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: Week one kickoffs, classic, National championship games, those are some

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Speaker 1: of the chills moments for me. Now, I think the

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Speaker 1: comment section is going to light up for this question,

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Speaker 1: so I'll be interested to know your submissions on this,

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Speaker 1: because I'm sure there are some really obvious ones that

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00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: I just left off for whatever reason.

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Speaker 2: Let's get one more question in here.

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Speaker 1: This is kind of interesting because I, you know, to

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Speaker 1: be honest, I still don't know where I want to

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Speaker 1: go with it.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this and let me know what you think.

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Speaker 1: The most recent coaching carousel showed that schools are now

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Speaker 1: heavily investing into big time recruiters for head coaches to

916
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Speaker 1: mitigate the risk of them leaving to the NFL. Do

917
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 1: you consider other schools more of a danger of coaching

918
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: big school coaches or the NFL from Melbourne, Australia there, So,

919
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: here's the insinuation. The insinuation is a lot of schools

920
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: are hiring major recruiters as head coaches because they know

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Speaker 1: the NFL won't want to come take them. And I

922
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Speaker 1: don't know if the correlation and causation are the same here.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's been.

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00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: The motivation, even between between needing to fill your role

925
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 1: as head coach and then who you're hiring. So Marcus

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Speaker 1: Freeman got the job at Notre Dame very good recruiter.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that.

928
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: Notre Dame looked around and said, let's give it to

929
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: Marcus because the NFL will never come for him because

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Speaker 1: he's a recruiter.

931
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Speaker 2: Like I don't think that's the thinking.

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Speaker 1: I don't think USC looked at Lincoln Riley and said,

933
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Speaker 1: I think we want Riley cause he can recruit, and

934
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Speaker 1: therefore the NFL will never want it. I think maybe

935
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Speaker 1: you may happen to be a good recruiter, probably one

936
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Speaker 1: of the prerequisites to get those jobs, But you can

937
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: be a really, really good football mind.

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Speaker 2: And a good recruiter too.

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Speaker 1: In fact, some of the best programs in America are

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Speaker 1: led by a combination of both in the same mind.

941
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Speaker 1: So I don't know that that's the case, but I

942
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Speaker 1: think I've always viewed the biggest threat to your head

943
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: coach leaving as being another college program. So I think

944
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Speaker 1: over the course of history, we've seen far more coaches

945
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Speaker 1: lee college jobs to go to other college jobs then

946
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 1: we have leaving college jobs to go to the NFL.

947
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Speaker 1: I mean, you can virtually count on one hand how

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Speaker 1: many high profile coaches have left college to go to

949
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Speaker 1: the NFL, and you've watched it work out. Conversely, in college,

950
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Speaker 1: it works out all the time, and we just saw

951
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Speaker 1: multiple examples of it this past cycle. Who in the

952
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: world expected Brian Kelly to leave Notre Dame to go

953
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Speaker 1: to LSU. Anyone who ever talked about him leaving talked

954
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: about I wonder if the Giants want Brian Kelly. I

955
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: wonder if what if the Chargers will look at Brian Kelly. No,

956
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: it was LSU that ended up taking it. For that matter,

957
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Speaker 1: I wonder.

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Speaker 2: If the Cowboys will take Lincoln Riley. No, it was

959
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Speaker 2: USC that came and took Lincoln Riley. So I don't

960
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: know that that's what.

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Speaker 1: They're prioritizing, or if they are, I don't know that

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Speaker 1: that's the reason they're prioritizing it. What I think programs

963
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: are knowing that they have to prioritize is a good

964
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Speaker 1: recruiter or the very least the guy who can put

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Speaker 1: together a dynamite recruiting staff. But he's got to understand

966
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: marketing for the future of NIL. He's got to be

967
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: a very very good manager of an organization because of

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Speaker 1: so many different aspects that are now part of a

969
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: college football organization. But he's got to be a good

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00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: navigator too. It's got to be a good leader, I

971
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Speaker 1: guess is another word for that, because there are so

972
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Speaker 1: many added things on your plate that didn't even exist

973
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Speaker 1: five years ago in this sport, much less fifty years ago.

974
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Speaker 1: So yeah, if you're a good recruiter and you feel

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Speaker 1: more college, yeah, maybe that precludes a lot of NFL

976
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: eyeballs from casting their gaze towards you.

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Speaker 2: Is that the reason you hired that guy? I don't

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Speaker 2: know if that's.

979
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Speaker 1: Necessarily always correlating the way it may seem, just so

980
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: happens to be that way sometimes. Look, I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: guys watching show number two fifty, and if you're listening

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Speaker 1: on podcasts, appreciate that as well. Make sure you're doing

983
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Speaker 1: the simple things for us. That's all we need you

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Speaker 1: to do. Show remains free, remains easily accessible.

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Speaker 2: The simple things.

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Speaker 1: Subscribe on the podcast, subscribe to the YouTube channel. Colin

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Speaker 1: keeps pointing out to me. We're above ninety thousand subs here,

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Speaker 1: and I'm told they send us a fancy plaque when

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Speaker 1: we reach a thousand subs, right, Colin, like some fancy

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Speaker 1: silver thing.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know where we'll put it.

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Speaker 1: But we found room for the balloon tonight, so certainly

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Speaker 1: we can find room for some actual hardware one.

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Speaker 2: Hundred thousand subs. I mean, we can get there before

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Speaker 2: the season starts. So let's try and do that. You

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Speaker 2: take your sister's computer, go take your mom's account. Just subscribe.

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Speaker 2: start to the weekend. We'll be back here same time

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