1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: You gotta picture on the team pitcher's name tomorrow. You 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: don't want to tell me to day telling your boy 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: ahead tomorrow? What time? What time? Tom Are you gonna 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: tell me who's pitching? I said, oh, it's not pitching. 5 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: I would take your favorite Ron and Aian. The really 6 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: good news this week is I didn't I didn't start 7 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: any more fires this week. Nothing burned down. I survived 8 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: the week at the shop. Ready today, look me, the 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: car doctor. They installed these plastic clips, and they put 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: a steel line in the plastic and then the plastic 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: absorbs the moisture. How come they don't put a dab 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: of grease in that plastic clip. Welcome to the radio 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: home of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor, since this 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: is where car owners the world overturned to for their 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you 16 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: take your call at eight five five six nine D 19 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: and now, and I don't give a dog give Oh 20 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: that's our shut stop running. Hey, it's time to start 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: your engines running. Any of the car doctor here and 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: uh I know who is pitching. I'm pitching because it's 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: my radio show. And that's what I'm here to do 24 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: today at eight five five six zero nine nine zero zero, 25 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: here to take your calls and answer your questions if 26 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: we have that. He's past and I don't know you 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: do the math. I'm getting too old to do this anymore. So, UM, 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: we're all about cars today, as we always are every 29 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: Saturday here two to four pm Eastern time. You can 30 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: call in live and talk to us. Whether or not 31 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: you're listening to us live. You might be in a 32 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: time zone that's taken us on a delay broadcast and 33 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: a different affiliate or podcast or streaming it, or you know. However, 34 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: and wherever you're taking The Car Doctor, you can call 35 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: eight five five five six zero nine zero zero Saturdays 36 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: two to four pm Eastern time and we can do 37 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: it right here live on the big stage and talk 38 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: to you about your car problem and all that it takes. Hello, 39 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: and good afternoon, and miss array. Mr Attwood. I'm glad 40 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: to count them among the among the cast today as 41 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: we launched yet another episode of The Car Doctor. As 42 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: we go out and try to fix all these broken cars. 43 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: More information about this radio show at car Doctor show 44 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: dot com and podcasting there and get over to iHeart 45 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: and spreaker and do your thing. It's UM, it's not 46 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: hard to do. It was hard this week in the shop. Um, 47 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: this week was like you were you were, You were 48 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 1: walking around the molassas all week. We entered week two 49 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: or a week three. I've lost counting now of the 50 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: suburban transmission restoration. Um, I'm down to and somebody actually 51 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: accused me of the mac toole guy actually accused me 52 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: of being a little bit o c D this week 53 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: because he walked in and I was spraying the heads 54 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: of the bolts before I put him back into the chassis. 55 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: And UM, listen, you gotta paint everything Benjamin more low 56 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: luster alkali with a spray gun. As a matter of fact, 57 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: that's part of what I wanted to talk to you 58 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: about today as we kick off this hour. UM had 59 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: a really good repair that showed an explained basic electricity 60 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: to thousand six Trailblazer wanded in with a P zero 61 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: four four nine evaporative emissions vent control solenoid circuit fault. 62 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: And basically this is for the This is for evap 63 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: vent control of aporative emissions. I don't want to make 64 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: this a spiel about that, but suffice it to say 65 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: it's part of the Imagine control package. And listen, it's 66 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: a simple circuit. It's a two wire solenoid. All right, 67 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: you've got a hot, you've got a ground. In this case, 68 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: the hot has fed off a FUSEE from the underhood 69 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: fuse block and the ground is computer controlled. Oh boy, 70 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: But it wasn't a computer issue. It turned out to 71 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: be something else, a little bit of diagnosis, and part 72 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: of the diagnosis was simple stuff. Um, you know, check system. 73 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: Do you have voltage on the pink wire? Do you 74 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: have ground control? Part of the diagnosis was verifying ohm 75 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: the wiring leading back to the PCM and omount the 76 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: white wire, which all passed. The funny part was that 77 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: the vehicle passed every test I could give it. And 78 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: then I realized I was testing it with the two 79 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: wire connector unplugged. And you know the old rule, right, 80 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: You've got to really test a circuit both ways loaded 81 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: and unloaded, and you've got to get the same results. 82 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: So I plugged the connector back in, and with the 83 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: connector plugged into the vent control solinoid, my line voltage 84 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: went from eleven and a half ten and a half 85 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: nine eight three one zero. Bingo, Huh, look at that. 86 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: We can't support we can't support voltage. There's no voltage there. 87 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: So I left it plugged in and I went just 88 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: in front of the gas tank where the main wiring 89 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: harness comes in and sort of takes that loop up 90 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: going over the top of the gas tank. I love 91 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: the tops of gas tanks. There are so many things 92 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: that tops of gas tanks contribute to broken cars. It's 93 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: it's it's really kind of staggering. Uh. You know, you've 94 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: got to just like live it to understand that. It 95 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: just it gets you each and every time. So I 96 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 1: found that it was a bulk. There was a gang 97 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: of probably thirty wires leading up in front of that 98 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: gas tank. And I found the pink wire that would 99 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: lead around the side of the gas tank and come 100 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: over the top and go to the vent soloid and 101 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: had solid twelve volts with the evap ben soloid plugged in. 102 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: It's kind of neat, um, you know, I've got twelve 103 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: volts there. I don't have twelve volts there. Of course, 104 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: That's when I reached over and I told Danny. I said, look, 105 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: I diagnosed that you dropped the tank and find the 106 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: problem because dropping gas tanks. Well, actually, we don't drop 107 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: gas tanks. We never dropped gas tanks. We lower gas 108 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: tanks all right. When we drop gas tanks, you can 109 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: only drop a gas tank once, whereas you can lower 110 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: them for a career. So it's you know, you guys, 111 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: figure it out. We like the lower things. We don't 112 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 1: drop anything. So I found out a way. I figured 113 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: out a way that I wouldn't have to lower the 114 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: gas tank, and I fed the vent solinoid control wire 115 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: back over the top of the tank and pulled it 116 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: out towards the wheelhouse and leading up to it in 117 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: a in a short section, you can actually see where 118 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: the mouse or the critter or the squirrel or whatever 119 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: it was. And you know, you do this long enough, 120 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: you kind of get a sense of what minor might 121 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: not be and you say, well, I guess it. You 122 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: know it is, um. You found this little spot of corrosion. 123 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: And I had twelve volts in front of the corrosion, 124 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: and I had twelve volts after the corrosion until I 125 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: plugged in this the events solenoid, and then I wants 126 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: to go like a countdown even seven zero, bingo. All right. 127 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: The theory here is, and it's proof of the theory, 128 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: is that you can have voltage on a circuit, but 129 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: there isn't enough of the circuit there to support the load, 130 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: and it will bleed off voltage and not allow any 131 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: current to flow, so the device won't operate. Um, I 132 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: needed a I need a solimoid end connector is what 133 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: this comes down to. Well, interestingly enough, a c Delco 134 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: did listed you know, the de'll go illustrated catalog, and 135 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of weird, so I turned 136 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 1: to another source online. I went out to the orailly 137 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: Oto Parts website orileyoto dot com and sure enough, plugged 138 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: in the vehicle and did some digging around and came 139 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: up with the men's solenoid connector. You can get it 140 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: from O'Reilly ooto Parts. And the nice thing is their 141 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: website shows pictures of all the connectors and I was 142 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: able to actually match by site just exactly which one 143 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: I wanted. I need that one, get the part number, ordered, 144 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: the part, and the problem solved. You can, if you 145 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: feel like it, get out to Facebook, go out to 146 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: the Rondaninian Car Doctor Facebook page and we put a 147 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: video up yesterday. It should still be there. It's gonna 148 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: be there. Well, I guess it'll be there until we 149 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: take it down. But it talks about it explains the 150 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: basics of parasitic voltage loss in a circuit like that 151 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: and and how it gets you know, trampled out and 152 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: you know wired and a new uh wired and a 153 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: new connector put it together and bang we're off to 154 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: the races. Well fixed. So um, you know, wiring is 155 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: just and and again just you know, taking your time 156 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: doing it with a wiring diagram and no rush. But 157 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: wiring is is difficult but not and it's very satisfying, um, 158 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: you know to find something like that and resolve and so. 159 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: But that was the uh that was the six trailblazer 160 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: this week. That was just one of the jobs that 161 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: we did. The other one that I worked on quite 162 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: a bit this week was a two thousand two GMC 163 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: Savannah van that had a heated oxygen center full P 164 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: zero one six one. Now it's funny but they don't 165 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: give you exact spects. And I guess two thousand two 166 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: and it shows you how good the diagnostics have gotten 167 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: in the past fifteen years. But the they don't really 168 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: show you exact spects. They tell you on the O 169 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: two center it's got to be this, but they don't 170 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: tell you what bad is. And fortunately I've got a 171 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: I've got a database of known good, known bad. And 172 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: I compared it to it and even though it had 173 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: an home reading to it, it read six holmes instead 174 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: of the fifteen you know what, it's gotta be fifteen fifteen. 175 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: The number at six uh six is bad put on 176 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: a two center in it. Um A little bit of 177 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: a pain in the neck were the monitors though. And 178 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: I was out there running the monitors late on a Friday. 179 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: You know what, you know, you're in trouble for the week, 180 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: Like you're backed up when you're running monitors for inspection 181 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: at quarter to five on a Friday, because you're trying to, 182 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: you know, get the catalytic converter to pass monitor and 183 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: you've got to right into fifty two miles an hour 184 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: without stopping out on the highway. And um so, but 185 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: that that was the week. That was, That was the 186 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: week of wut to repair. I hope yours was better, 187 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: and I hope we get to talk about it. This 188 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: hour zero zero, I'm running any of the car, Doc, 189 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: you're coming back. The phones are lit. We're gonna kick 190 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: the garage doors open right after this. Don't go away day. 191 00:09:36,720 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: Happy birthday baby, so DEVI scan. That's right, A big 192 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: happy birthday to the big man behind the board of 193 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: the other side of the glass, Mr Tony at with Tony? 194 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: How many? How many years is it now? What are we? 195 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: Thirty two three? Thank you? Um um. This Tuesday, I 196 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: will be forty eight years old and we got your 197 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: little cake here to commemorate it. Happy birthday, brother, Thank 198 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: you very much. Guys, don't know if there's no candles. 199 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: Yes on the fire department said we didn't have enough. 200 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: We didn't have the twenty bucks for the permit, so 201 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: we you know, we had to like lay low and so. 202 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: But not a problem. And still the heartbreaker. Yes, yes, yes, 203 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: you're breaking hearts. It's uh happy birthday, bro um. Now 204 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: can we continue to do well? You guys, eat cake 205 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: and don't get any on the control board. Can we 206 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: open up the phone lines and yes we can. Let's 207 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: go over to Corey in Michigan. Corey, welcome to the 208 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: car doctor. How can I help oh, thank for having 209 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: me on. I love to learn and listen. Um. Yeah, 210 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: I'm having a problem with my Dodge Caliber. It's an 211 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: s E. It's got drum, brakes and shoes. The problem 212 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: isn't when I press on the brake pedal. Okay, it's 213 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: when I let off the brake pedal. I'm hearing some 214 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: squeaking in the back, in the back, so it's it's 215 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: it's on the it's on the release. Yes, all right, Um, 216 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: nothing up front, everything up front of quiet. Any any 217 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: recent breakwork? Actually up front, I was having a little 218 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: bit of clapping from the Breakdad and I uh replaced 219 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: the the rubber bushings and I lubricated it really well, 220 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: cleaned everything off. I don't believe I got to the 221 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: piston on the caliper and I didn't love that. Well. 222 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: I put it back together, no clapping until last night 223 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: I heard it again something and it might be the 224 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: piston on the caliper that I didn't get loved. Well, 225 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: let me let me ask you, Well, it's just really 226 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: old needs to be replaced. Well what are you using 227 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: for break grease? Uh? You know, I don't know the 228 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: brand name. I just got it Auto Zone, the little 229 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: packets there. They were giving me is it clear? White? 230 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: Is it purple? Is it? What color is it? I 231 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: think this was a white color. Okay, so it's probably 232 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: some form of a silicon brake grease. UM. We've used 233 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: a particular brand. It's made by A. C. Delco actually, 234 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: and you know we picked it up in n A C. 235 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: Delco class years ago and I've used it ever since. 236 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: And I've I've been through the purple grease, I've been 237 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: through the black grease, I've been through the synthetics, the conventionals, um, 238 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: whatever the formulation is of this particular synthetic from Delco. 239 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: It works really well. It comes in up you know, 240 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: in a um you know, a small with a three 241 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: inch can with a brush in the middle, or you 242 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: can get yourself a lead acid brush over the counter, 243 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: and um, you know, it works well. So before you 244 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: rush out to replace the caliper, what I would tell 245 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: you is if you're if you're getting the clacking up front, 246 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: just you know, pull the caliper off. Make sure now 247 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: when you put the grease into the slide, are you 248 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: cleaning the bore of the caliper itself? Too? Uh? No, 249 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: I did not do that. Okay, you may wanna you know, 250 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: was the slide really dirty? Did it look kind of 251 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: rusty and crunning in And that's the that's the problem. 252 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: You pack it with grease and it now you've got 253 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: dirt in there with the grease, and it will beat 254 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: up the boar more and sometimes it ruins it and 255 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: makes it even bigger. So uh, you know, you you 256 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: may end up having to put a caliper on it. 257 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: But before I spent the money and got into that 258 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: and bleeding in the hall, you know mess, as long 259 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: as there's nothing else wrong with the caliper. Uh, what 260 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: I would tell you to do is uh like a 261 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: big pipe cleaner brush and and they make them, they'll 262 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: they'll make them in the parts houses or just some 263 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: sort of a um. We actually have a set we 264 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: got from the Mactol guy. It's a it's a brass 265 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: uh cylindrical brush that fits in the boar and we 266 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: can kind of scrub it out and shoot a little 267 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: break clean in there and scrub it out some more 268 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: and get it nice and clean and dry, and then 269 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: we'll put some fresh grease and then we'll put the 270 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: piston and you know, the slide and the rubber boot 271 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: and we always do fresh rubber boots. All right, you 272 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: want to, you know, make sure you've got fresh rubber 273 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: boots so you don't break down the seal and yeah, 274 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: so and then you can just reuse them. But um, 275 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: see what that does. So that's the front, all right, 276 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: the back, it sounds like. And obviously here's a case 277 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: where um, you know, you'd like to see what's moving 278 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: if you can get a helper, if you know, get 279 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: the car secure up in the air, get a jack 280 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: stand under it and all or you know, up in 281 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: the air on the lift and pull the wheel, pull 282 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: the tire of one of the wheels, and very slowly, 283 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: slowly guy step on the brake pedal jazz enough to 284 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: get the brake shoe to move. Now keep in mind, 285 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: if the drums not there, there's nothing to catch the 286 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: shoe from over extending. You could blow the wheel cylinder 287 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: apart if you're not careful. You get me, all right, 288 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: So you want to do this very slowly, key off, 289 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, just sitting there and just get the shoe 290 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: jazz to start to move and then let it retract. 291 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: Chances are you're gonna see, you know, or hear the noise, 292 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: or if you don't even want to do that, if 293 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: that makes you a little nervous. Likely what you're describing 294 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: as the contact points of the shoe where it sits 295 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: against the Yeah, where it sits against the backing plate 296 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: need to need to be lubricated. All right, So you 297 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: know you're gonna have to take the break shoes apart. Loud, loud, 298 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: the contact points loop, all the pivot points now on 299 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: the self adjuster. If there's a self adjuster mechanism in this, 300 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: in this brake shoe set up, I don't use grease there, 301 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: all right. I stopped using grease a couple of four 302 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: or five years ago. I'll wire brush everything real clean. 303 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm not aggressive on my wire brushing. I don't want 304 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: to gall or chew up the self adjuster because usually 305 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: that metal is it's a little on the softer side 306 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: I find on some cars. But I'll clean it up 307 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: whatever way I can. And then I'll use the drop 308 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: a motor oil. All right. And I find just a 309 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: drop of oil on the threads lubricated, spin it around, um, 310 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: you know it just it just it's a light enough 311 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: oil that it won't was the adjuster to bind and 312 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: then all I really want to do is just coat 313 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: the threads to keep everything from galling up and rusting. 314 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: And uh, you know that'll work fine for you. So 315 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: but that's it. And don't forget when you take it 316 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: apart where the shoes actually contact the anchor pin up 317 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: top and usually there's a boss down bottom or the 318 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: anchor pinned down bottom, put a little put a little 319 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: dab of you know, break grease there too, so that 320 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: is the shoe rotates and gives it that that curl 321 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: that it doesn't, you know, against against the metal. You're 322 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: very welcome. You have any problems, you give us a call, Um, 323 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: you're welcome. Yeah, I'll tell you what it's. It's kind 324 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: of funny, right you You explained to somebody grease your 325 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: breaks and they're like, huh. So you have to say 326 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: this very cautiously, if you notice, I was very exact 327 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: and specific um in terms of how I explained that 328 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: to Corey, because it's important. It's it's it's not easy, 329 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: um sitting here behind my seat and you know I've 330 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: got it in my head. I just gotta get it 331 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: out to you guys correctly that we can um, that 332 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: we can talk about it. Um, let's see what else 333 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: happened in the shop this week. I got another call, 334 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: but I've only got a minute. So watch this. Let's 335 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: kill a minute. You want to kill a minute, What 336 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: do you want to talk about? Somebody give me something 337 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: to talk about. Here we go. Tony got a question. Giants? 338 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: Huh Who New York Giants? Well, wait, wait a minute, 339 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: wait a minute. The New York Mets, the New York Yankees, 340 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: the Boston Red Soxes baseball season, Dude, it is, actually 341 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: it is. He never talks about them. He always talks 342 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: about our giants. Well you're giants. Um, yeah, but I 343 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: can't talk about the giants. It's not football season. Okay. 344 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: But you said, let's let's let's talk about office. So 345 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: I just I was looking for something car related. Okay, 346 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: So you got a car question. Um, now you're dating yourself. 347 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: Now you're really dating yourself. So quick, What time with 348 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: speed race roun in the afternoon? Four o'clock? Now three o'clock. 349 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: It was three o'clock because I get home in the 350 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: two thirty bus, and I would and I was in 351 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: high school at the time. But that's a whole another story. Um, 352 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: five five, five, six, zero nine nine zero zero. Brought 353 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: in Nady in the car. Look at that. We just 354 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: killed a minute. I'll be back right after this. Don't 355 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: go away. For the best in car advice, give Ron 356 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: a call eight five five five zero nine nine zero zero. 357 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: Now back to Ron. Welcome back, ran name of the 358 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: car docul Let's go over and talk to Jeremy Washington, 359 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: d C Chevrolet Silverado. Jeremy, welcome to the car doctor. 360 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: How can I help? Hey, afternoon? I Uh, I got 361 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: a Silverado, and I you know, I've heard from a 362 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: lot of people and I've actually witnessed it. Um, it's 363 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: only when it's hot. It has eight beata and only 364 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: when it's hot. Indians of temperature and it's idling, you know, 365 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: I get the when when you give a gas it 366 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: goes away. And when the Indians called neo the oil stick, 367 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: it's not there. And I'm not having any indicated boil 368 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: pressure problems on the dash instruments, and so I've read uh. Obviously, 369 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: I went online and searched the handles of the interweb, 370 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: and the Automotive Engine Rebuilder Association actually, interestingly enough, had 371 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: a click bolt and that perfectly described this symptom. That 372 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, it only happens at idol when it's hot. 373 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: When you hit the gas, it goes away. It says 374 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: to look for something called a cam chap thrust plate 375 00:19:55,119 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: gasket that apparently, you know, when the engines idling, it 376 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: lets enough oil seep out of it to deal with 377 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: the pressure problem or to cause the pressure problem. When 378 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: you hit the gas, you know, there's enough pressure to 379 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: overcome that problem. And it says that he will show 380 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: up okay on the the gas gauge because it doesn't 381 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: cause the problems of further downstream. Uh. Then the indicators 382 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: that they said you take a pressure reading at the 383 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: oil filter and at the tap where the gauge, you know, 384 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: the sender comes from. There's a difference. That's a problem, 385 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: and I've seen this. There's also a conversation that General 386 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: Motors has got going on with some of their engines. 387 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: I don't remember if it got into thirteens, but they 388 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: talk about issues with the oil pump pick up tube 389 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: as well. I don't know if you've seen that one 390 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: or read that one. My question is you know I 391 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: will say when I mean reference that one. At least 392 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: with this one, I still got good, good pressure, you 393 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: know on my gauge. Um, So my question is, I mean, 394 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: thousand mills, you really got a park? I Uh got 395 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: new tires into dealerships every day, because, believe it or not, 396 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: the dealerships actually do have good prices on tires if 397 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: you don't let them do anything else. Uh, and they, 398 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: you know, couldn't verify, I couldn't hear you know the usual. 399 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: You know, nothing's wrong here, and I mean there might 400 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: not be really eating wrong. So my question is is 401 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: this something I should worry about? Or I mean there's 402 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: no drive ability problems. I changed my O regularly synthetic oil. 403 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: I mean, well knowledge of this, I mean the problem 404 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: is just as just as you describe the Jeremy if. 405 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: If you know, if it's really a loss of oil pressure, 406 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: but we're not seeing it by any mechanical gauge because 407 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: of location as per the bulletin of you know how 408 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: it reads pressure, then we'll never know. All right, it is. 409 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: It's it's sort of like an artery in your body. 410 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: Bad body, I'm sorry, and your body is bleeding off blood. 411 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: Say that three times fast, and you know you'll just 412 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: get a little dizzy and lightheaded at times. But you 413 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: might live to be a hundred. Um, then again, it 414 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: might get worse over time and become a bigger issue. 415 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: So you know, where do you draw the line? I 416 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: think the only real way you can justify the question 417 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: is somebody's got to do the test, you know, somebody's 418 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: Do you think it should be worth paying a decent 419 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: shop to do it? Um? Because I think it's gonna 420 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: be an uphill better o provincing the deal to do 421 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: it since they don't want to even here the noise, 422 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Well, let me ask you 423 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: this question. Did did you say there's powertrain warranty on 424 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: this yet? Yeah? About three thousand miles more. Okay, So 425 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: who's who's eligible to do the powertrain warrant? Take coverage 426 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: only only the deal here's the problem because GM was 427 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: doing that five year, hundred thousand mile So here's here's 428 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: the problem. Um, you're gonna take it out to the 429 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 1: best shop in the land. But it's not a dealer, 430 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: all right, and you know it could be you know, 431 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: it could be Mario N's Ready's repair shop or whatever. 432 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: All right, you get my point. And they're gonna work 433 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: in with this documented, signed piece of paper that says, 434 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, we took this pressure test and this proves it, 435 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: and this is low and so on. You know what, 436 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: they're gonna tell you, we need to test it ourselves 437 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: because they don't. I've never seen a dealer acknowledge even 438 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: another dealer's work. It's not just dealer against independent, it's 439 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: dealer against dealer. It's attending physician against attending physician. And 440 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: I would do the same thing. Yeah, I want to 441 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: see that. I'm sorry, I want to do the test myself. So, 442 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: you know, because the bigger because the bigger problem is 443 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: if they don't want to acknowledge the sound that it exist, 444 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: and you have a document, say hey, look I can 445 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: prove it. I got the piece of paper. You know what, 446 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: if they didn't want to hear the noise in the 447 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: first place, they could care less. And you've got gold 448 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: bars in the back of the truck. Well that's kind 449 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: of what I'm thinking. So I'm kind of basically at 450 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: their mercy at this point. I guess is the situation 451 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: either that or you're gonna find another dealer. Okay, yeah, 452 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: I mean maybe I'll do that and look around a 453 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: little bit. You know, it doesn't say, you know, It 454 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: doesn't say just at this one particular dealer, right, it 455 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: says any GM dealer. Yeah, exactly, exactly. So let me 456 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: ask you this, Who's who's been servicing the truck up 457 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: to this point? I have myself, um, religiously, I mean, 458 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: you know, transmission, flute change, it is the whole nine yards. 459 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: I pretty much just do everything and so that, you know, 460 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: in a situation like this that might kind of put 461 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: me behind the ball. Well, can you can you prove 462 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: the oil changes? You've got receipts? Yeah? Oh yeah, I 463 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: got all that. Um, and I don't I don't think 464 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it does, not that my 465 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: voice counts. But I would you know what this is, 466 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: that this is that conversation with a mechanic time. You know, 467 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: I would go down to the dealership and talk and said, listen, 468 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: you know, show him the bulletin, all right, and if 469 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: the guy blows off the bulletin in black and white, 470 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: and they should be aware of it. It's a common problem, 471 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: you know. And yeah, I mean that's my thing. And 472 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: if they blow it off, then all that dealership wants 473 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: to do is sell new cars and change oil. They're 474 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: not interested in repairs in my opinion, one other quick 475 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: I just did, uh, did do you have like an 476 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: extra ten seconds? Okay? I just did a new front 477 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: brakes on my sister Chevy Cruz UM and I used 478 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: the O E M pads and I was going to 479 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: use O EM rotors um, but the Delco place the 480 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: jobb or didn't have it. And and I looked online. 481 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: It looks like even a GM dealerships now with their service, 482 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: they use the that Delco Advantage line of h break rotors. 483 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: And you know, honestly, now it may be something to it, 484 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: but when I held him up next to the O 485 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: E M, I mean, they did look like they're just 486 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: as thick and the exact same and there's no pulsing. 487 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: So I mean, do you think by using those advantaged rotors? 488 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: I did? Okay, the advantage rotors, from what I understand, 489 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: are the less expensive line. All right, that's right oxactly. 490 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: So you know we'll use Delco Professional in the shop, 491 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: which is the which is the great above advantage. And 492 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: you know there's there's three choices in the Delko GM 493 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: family and they're gonna have to sit down and figure 494 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: this out because it's getting very confusing, uh, you know, 495 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: no crap, man, I'm with you. Yeah, it's just like 496 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: you know, tell me what it is. Is it G 497 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: M O E is a Delco professionals at Delco advantage. 498 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,239 Speaker 1: What's the difference? And we do you start looking at 499 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: starters and alternators that don't really make your head spin 500 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: so and you know, so yeah, um, you know the 501 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: the dell Go advantages that I've seen, They'll have the 502 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: same outside thickness, but the actual thickness of the wall 503 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: of the rotor is a little thinner, and there may 504 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: not be as many veins per section, you know, heat 505 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: dissipating veins. They gotta cheap, they gotta cheapen it up somehow, 506 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: all right, yeah, right, it's you know, you'll probably get 507 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: if I already guess and tell you the pattern, you'll 508 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: probably get twenty thousand miles out of them. And when 509 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: you take when you when you change the rotors for 510 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: the pulse, the pads will have another third to go. Well, 511 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: then I just day in that scenario, can I still 512 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: use the same pads? YEA, change them at that point 513 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: because we're you gonna do put pads on with more 514 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: and then when they went when they were right when 515 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: they wear out. You know, it's it becomes uh, you know, now, 516 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Just put rotors on and 517 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: then what if the what if that thirty or just 518 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: put pads on and then that thirty thousand mile pad 519 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: if it goes into the third or ever it is 520 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 1: thirty thousand miles, you know, what if it what if 521 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: it kisses the rotor and ruins the rotor and then 522 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: there's nothing the machine. You're gonna throw it away. You know. Listen, 523 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: the whole conversation and ideology of a break job. I'll 524 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: probably have to talk about it one day, but I've 525 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: got this whole belief system on on how you approach 526 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: breaks today because it's it's just very, very different. But listen, 527 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: be the guinea pig, call me in here, tell me 528 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: how those Delco advantage rotors are working. Okay man, all right, 529 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,239 Speaker 1: thanks Jeremy, good luck to you. You're welcome. Let us 530 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: know what happens zero zero. The car Doctor is coming 531 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: back right after this welcome back. We're on the end 532 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: of the car Doctor. Let's go and talk to Mick 533 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: from Oregon to return. Call Mick. We're still working on 534 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: this jeep Cherokee. Yeah, I'm still working on it ron. 535 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,959 Speaker 1: So what we do the last time? Where we at? Okay, 536 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: all right, well where I'm at is is uh let 537 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: me tell you what it does here. Um, it'll start 538 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: up in idle fine, and if you accelerate get up slow, 539 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: it's fine. It's just when you accelerate fast it'll it'll 540 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: miss and it'll backfire in the intake the air box 541 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: kind of. Um. I have verified that that when the 542 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 1: pistons on top death Center, that the rotors pointed right 543 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: where it should be. Okay, was it out? No? It wasn't. 544 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't. So what was Why was the balancer at 545 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: the wrong mark when we talked last week or the 546 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: week before? The balancer now the mark on the pull 547 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: the pulley, now it's it's over where the index is 548 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: supposed to be. Um, So I don't know if that's 549 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: where it's supposed to be or not. That straight up 550 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: and down it's not doesn't seem like the correct location. 551 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: Well yeah, but waitene, Yeah, it's there's a there's a 552 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: tab on the front of the cover and then there's 553 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: a there's a there's a mark in the balancer that 554 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: it should come around. And that's number one is that 555 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: does that line up as far as well? I don't 556 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: have I don't have that. There's no, I don't have 557 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: a tab on there. I don't have an index. How 558 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: about the cover? How could you not have an index? 559 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, because well you can't time it right. 560 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: But there's still gotta be a way to index. And 561 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: it's got to be there's got to be something there. Um, 562 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: I've never seen I've never seen one not have a mark. 563 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: I'll have to look into that this week. Um, So 564 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,239 Speaker 1: mechanical timing notwithstanding, all right, let's just work around that. 565 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: Did we ever check fuel pressure on this car? We did? Right? No? 566 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: I have it? Yeah, let's just check. Let's check. Yeah. 567 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: I think I mentioned that in the first conversation a 568 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: month ago. But in case we missed it, let's check 569 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: fuel pressure and let's see what manifold vacuum? Is it? Idle? Okay, 570 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: let's get let's get back to basics. We're missing something 571 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: fundamental here, all right, um, and it may it may 572 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: come down to where did you ever did you have 573 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: the ability to scope? I don't remember. I don't have 574 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: a scope. Um, if I get one, I mean what 575 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: would I scope caman crank sensors make sure they're putting 576 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: out a good wave. You know you had changed caman 577 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: crank sensors, didn't you. I'm trying to remember the car. Yeah, yeah, 578 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: right right, because this car changed, right, this, this is, 579 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: this is different than the original concern for it, right 580 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: it is. So I don't know if this problem is 581 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: related or if it's separate, right, or if it's something new, 582 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: or if it's been induced by parts installed. Let's start over. 583 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: Let's let's start over next week. Give me fuel pressure, 584 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: manifold vacuum and idle. Where does manifold vacuum go when 585 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: you accelerate? All right, and this is driving down the road. 586 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: Let's go back to basics. Okay, if you've got a 587 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: way to scope, let's scope the cam and the crank 588 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: sensors and let's just see what they look like. You'll 589 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: they'll produce a square wave signal about five vaults. They'll 590 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: both be the same. All right, let's see what Let's 591 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: see what that does, and then we'll talk next week. Alright, 592 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: you're very welcome hanging there, zero nine zero. The car 593 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: doctor is coming back right after this. Hey, welcome back. 594 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: We're on the end of the car doctorre let's see 595 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: and from Hartford Vermont's check and in Ron I spoke 596 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: with you a little over a month ago, finally decided 597 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: on a car. I didn't get the RAB or the 598 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: CRV that we talked about. Sorry, hey, no, no apologies. 599 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: UM I got a Mass of c X five thoughts. 600 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: Um Mass is a good car. I like Masda. I 601 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: think Masda is um you know, they're they're I don't 602 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: know if they're in my top five, but they're definitely 603 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: in my top ten, all right. I think the issue 604 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 1: I see with Masda's and it just seems to it's 605 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: always been this way. They get to be year five 606 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: and six and seven, and they get a little rusty 607 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: and beat up. So you want to start thinking about 608 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: doing things like fluid film or spraying some some sort 609 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: of corrosion prohibitor protection on the undercarriage. I think that's 610 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: a big deal. Uh, you know, it really depends on 611 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: how long you're gonna keep it. But mechanically and reliability wise, yeah, 612 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: I think they're good cars, I really do. Uh you know, 613 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: And um, I think they're often overlooked. If they could well, 614 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what they would have to do to 615 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: solve it. But it just seems like what I see 616 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: the cars that are here and the ones that are 617 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: especially in the Northeast and the salt belt states, Uh, 618 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: they just tend to get beat up by the corrosives 619 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: and the devices to melt snow and ice that you know, 620 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: it's an issue. So um, but you know, listen, enjoy it. 621 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: It's uh, you know, it's a good car. You'll be 622 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: happy if you if if you're happy in it, then 623 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, just watch the undercarriage. That would be my comments. Um. 624 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: Also another email, Hey Ron, can you finish the story 625 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: about the suburban? I was listening to at the top 626 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: of the hour Terry from main Terry. Yeah, well, yeah, 627 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm start of doing this restoration on the on the 628 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: four suburban. It's fifty six thou miles on it. The 629 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: trans failed for whatever reason. Actually the torque converter went 630 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: south and I couldn't see taking the trans out to 631 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: do a torque converter at this point in the game 632 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: because you have to take you know, half the undercarriage apart. 633 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: So this has become a trans. The trans cooler lines 634 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: fifteen years old, sixteen years old, they've got some rust 635 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: blisters on them, so I've replaced the trans cooler lines. 636 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: I am painting the trans cooler lines. I know a 637 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: lot of people ask me about this. With Benjamin More, 638 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: you get down to the local paint story, you get 639 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: Benjamin More low luster alkalide. All right, Um, I've sprayed 640 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: every hot rod I've done in the last ten years, 641 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: the undercarriage and the frames with it. It it'll it'll 642 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: stick the chicken poop it. Uh. It doesn't wash off, 643 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't run off. It can get hit by rocks 644 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: at Uh. That's great stuff. It's really great stuff. It's 645 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: a little dad. It's okay to work with. As a 646 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: matter of fact, if you get out to the Facebook page, 647 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: you'll see the video that I did talking about the 648 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: trailblazer wiring. In the video, that's the three M spray 649 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: gun I'm using. I'm using the three M spray gun 650 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: system with the disposable cartridges. And if you can spray 651 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 1: through that, you can spray through anything. So it's good stuff. 652 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: But um, yeah, anyway, that's uh, that's the deal for 653 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: this hour. Until the next hour, I'm monading in the 654 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: car doctor reminding you the mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 655 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: Let's see it. She goes to S