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Speaker 3: Welcome everyone to our Friday show, joined today by producer Griffin. Griffin,

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Speaker 3: thanks for jumping on the stream.

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Speaker 4: Yes, hello. The inmates are now running the asylum here

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Speaker 4: on the Friday Show Breaking Points, and the asylum cameras

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Speaker 4: was not depressed, I was not suicidal, check into Emily.

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Speaker 3: You forget. The guards are also sleep.

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Speaker 4: The guards are sleep the cell doors. Who knows what

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Speaker 4: seal I'm in, But we're here. We're excited. We've got

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Speaker 4: a huge show for you. Guys, this morning, what do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So this morning we have just a flurry of

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Speaker 3: weighing in on what's going on with Galline Maxwell. We

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Speaker 3: even longer about some interesting topics. So, for example, I

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Speaker 3: But also I got a question into Trump about why

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Speaker 3: all of that. And we have an interesting new clip

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Speaker 3: is a long time Hunter. You bought the dip on Hunter.

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Speaker 4: I bought the dip early, and you know, I've always

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Speaker 4: about all sorts of new drugs that I can create

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Speaker 4: So really excited about all that. And we got a

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Speaker 4: are so back, Trey and Matt Patriots, Patriots. Let's get

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Speaker 4: to the first patriot, Bill Clinton.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it, Bill Clinton. This is interesting for a

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Speaker 4: It was too sexy, too sexy to print.

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Speaker 3: Too sexy to print, too sexy to print. That's yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's Tailor's all this time. But that was It was

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Speaker 3: it appears that what the journal is doing is basically

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Speaker 3: I don't know if a warning shots is the right

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Speaker 3: sort of like intentional strategic warning. But they're publishing more

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Speaker 3: They have this picture of it and again a very

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Speaker 3: very nice letter from Bill Clinton. Griffin. Can you make

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Speaker 4: So this one, to me is this is a Gislaine

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can. You can see at the bottom. But

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Speaker 3: so here's the Clinton text of the letter, so that

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Speaker 3: It's reassuring, isn't it to have lasted as long across

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Speaker 3: brackets the Wall Street Journal says ineligible word and also

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Speaker 3: to have your childlike curiosity, the drive to make a difference,

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Speaker 3: and the solace of friends. Griffin, what are you making?

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Speaker 4: Wow? Another friendship? I would say not as romantic as

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Speaker 4: the Trump note. This one felt a little bit more

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Speaker 4: like a collegial right, you know. This one didn't really

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Speaker 4: not great. But it didn't seem to have as many

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Speaker 4: sort of knowing kind of hints or nudges. But yes,

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Speaker 3: Pretty hard you think, so, oh yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 3: He was he was trying to dunk on Republicans over

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Speaker 3: Epstein and said something like, yet this is not something

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Speaker 3: good It's not a good dunk. It's not a clean dunk.

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Speaker 4: Keen Jeffries on every subject just seems to be like

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Speaker 4: heard about that. I'm gonna look into that, like that's

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Speaker 4: I don't know, like now we're getting into Clinton stuff.

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Speaker 4: I do think that, like you know, this kind of

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Speaker 4: it's not just all about Trump. They've got letters from

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Speaker 4: all sorts of people like, which I think makes the

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Speaker 4: of it? Does this validate the existence of the book more?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, yes, this is they have so much in

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Speaker 3: like what's song was provided to him by Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 3: in two thousand and three. I would I would love

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Speaker 3: But the way that all of these men are writing

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Speaker 4: Because I think it's fully real, I still think that

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Speaker 3: So here's here's where we might not or here's where

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Speaker 3: been created. Pages have been reviewed by Justice Department officials

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Speaker 3: people familiar with the matter, the album is part of

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Speaker 4: But I think you're right they sense blood in the water.

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Speaker 4: That's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, yes, absolutely, And I think you're right there.

436
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 3: They feel as though the sort of chattering class has

437
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: spent so much time downplaying the story as the QAnon

438
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Speaker 3: fever swamp that it's very difficult for them to now

439
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Speaker 3: reckon with the potential ramifications because they're on the record

440
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Speaker 3: over and over again and even like on the cocktail

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Speaker 3: party circle with their friends being like nothing nothing to see.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this is not comment pizza, okay, Like

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Speaker 4: this is something far more substantial than that. But I

444
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Speaker 4: think it all gets lumped together and like the same

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Speaker 4: attitudes or whatever. But I mean, listen, the Trump has

446
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Speaker 4: lost the QAnon shaman. This this whole you know, Pizzagate

447
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 4: q Andon coalition like is breaking. Maybe you're maybe they're

448
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Speaker 4: too good for their votes. I guess, you know, as

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Speaker 4: reclient maybe needs to get on the on the Democrat

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Speaker 4: Twitter account beat because I think that like, yeah, summerly

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Speaker 4: some Democrat congressmen like, but they don't have that presence,

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Speaker 4: that Internet presence. It's a really like yeah, the Democrat

453
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Speaker 4: Twitter account. If you're following it, you're already like very

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Speaker 4: locked in. But I think like they need real vocal,

455
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Speaker 4: like on camera leadership stuff like grilling about this constantly

456
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Speaker 4: if they're going to like own the subject and not

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Speaker 4: kind of be bystanders to the event. But anyways, good

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Speaker 4: full Democrats Twitter account.

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Speaker 3: And let's just while we're on the New York Times article,

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Speaker 3: I do want to kind of dissect the sourcing and

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Speaker 3: some of the information that they're revealing here the picture

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Speaker 3: that they're painting, because this is the most I think complete,

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Speaker 3: This is the most complete picture of what's been happening

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Speaker 3: at the DJ and the FBI over the course the

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Speaker 3: Trump administration related to Epstein that we've seen so far.

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Speaker 3: So the Times reports that over the spring, FBI Doojay

467
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Speaker 3: made quote an all out push involving hundreds of employees

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Speaker 3: to scour the Epstein files. With a single goal in mind,

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Speaker 3: find something, anything, that could be released to the public

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Speaker 3: to satisfy the mounting clamor from the angry legions of

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Speaker 3: President Trump's supporters. So what we get from that is

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Speaker 3: actually the New York Times reporting that there is this

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Speaker 3: quote all out effort with hundreds of employees scouring the

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Speaker 3: Epstein files. Now they imply that it's being directed very cynically,

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Speaker 3: And I think this is important because that likely goes

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Speaker 3: back to Pampondi as the Attorney General, saying that all

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Speaker 3: you have to do is find something that will satisfy

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Speaker 3: the public. Now, the Times continues, after devoting countless hours

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Speaker 3: to the project, working at times around the clock, searching databases,

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Speaker 3: hard drives, network drives, cabinets, desks, and closets. The Bureau

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Speaker 3: and the Department finally acknowledged this month that they had

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Speaker 3: little to show for their efforts. And then Griffin You

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Speaker 3: noted they came to realize that there was no client list.

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Speaker 3: But also, let's keep going here. They say this captive

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Speaker 3: for Antic scrambled to Swart more than one hundred thousand

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Speaker 3: pages of materials. One hundred thousand pages of materials we

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Speaker 3: now know because of this New York Times report that

488
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Speaker 3: the Justice Department has more than one hundred thousand pages

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Speaker 3: of materials related to Jeffrey Epstein and that they, according

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Speaker 3: to Times, diverted hundreds of FBI employees and federal prosecutors

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Speaker 3: from their regular documents to go through duties to go

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Speaker 3: through the documents at least four times. And they say

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Speaker 3: including wants to flag any references to mister Trump and

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Speaker 3: other prominent figures. And just finally, I want to point

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Speaker 3: out that the Times of sourcing this is interesting with

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Speaker 3: the Wall Street Journal sourcing that we were just discussing.

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Speaker 3: They say details of the review were based on accounts

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Speaker 3: by three former FBI and Justice Department officials who spoke

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Speaker 3: on the condition of anonymity because of fears of retaliation.

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Speaker 3: So Griffin, this is really important because it tells us

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Speaker 3: at this point that where some of these leaks may

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Speaker 3: be coming from to the Journal and the Times, people

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Speaker 3: who were at the DOJ at the FBI during the

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Speaker 3: Try administration and who are no longer there. You can

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Speaker 3: think about people like, for example, what was her name,

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Speaker 3: Danielle Sassoon, who has now taken a job with the

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Speaker 3: Manhattan Institute. She sort of quit in protest over whether

508
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Speaker 3: or not the administration was following court orders early on.

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Speaker 3: You could I have no idea if she's involved in this,

510
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: but you can think about a person like that who

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Speaker 3: would have knowledge of what was happening, may be getting

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Speaker 3: at secondhand though. I mean that's another thing is if

513
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Speaker 3: they left, how much do they know about the inside?

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Speaker 3: We can't make conclusions about the sourcing other than that

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Speaker 3: it sounds likely it's disgruntled people who have left during

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Speaker 3: the Trump administration, right, that doesn't Yeah, but to me, it's.

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Speaker 4: Like one hundred thousand documents, one hundred thousand like that

518
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Speaker 4: is that is the volume alone is incredibly incriminating, not

519
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Speaker 4: just on Epstein but on the Department of Justice, who's

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Speaker 4: had these for how long, like in multiple administrations at

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Speaker 4: this point that you know, yeah, obviously we can poke

522
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Speaker 4: a lot of fun at what's going on with the

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Speaker 4: Troad administration, but just the idea that they've had like

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Speaker 4: what must be terabytes of documents that just like we're

525
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Speaker 4: just collecting dust until someone wanted to talk about it

526
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Speaker 4: again or there was enough pressure, Like I think just

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Speaker 4: the volume itself is so is such an indictment of

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Speaker 4: I think both parties that none of this stuff had

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Speaker 4: been released in any in any kind of redacted form,

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Speaker 4: and there just seemed to be oh, just, I guess

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Speaker 4: no one really cares about this kind of like like

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Speaker 4: Trump said, kind of boring, kind of boring stuff. I

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Speaker 4: guess I'm boring. But you know, we do have more

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Speaker 4: material news, But did you have anything more than New

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Speaker 4: York Times.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to add quickly that it's worth noting

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Speaker 3: because we're hearing now from people that there's all of

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Speaker 3: these one hundred thousand pages, you know, only it's like

539
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Speaker 3: a needle in a haystack, like maybe one line in

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Speaker 3: one of those one hundred thousand pages is your smoking

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Speaker 3: gun or is worth you know, just closing to the public.

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Speaker 3: But that's not how we should doing this. Like when

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Speaker 3: you get JFK files, for example, as they have been

544
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Speaker 3: shamefully dripped out over the years. Yeah, you get a

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Speaker 3: lot of boring documents. That's good because the boring documents

546
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Speaker 3: are coming out showing that you're just sort of getting

547
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Speaker 3: it all out to the public. And so no, it's

548
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Speaker 3: not good if you're only putting out the boring documents

549
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: intentionally to keep running out the clock. But nobody is

550
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Speaker 3: saying please refrain from releasing boring documents, because sometimes even

551
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Speaker 3: those boring documents, members of the public are able to

552
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Speaker 3: compare with the public record, are able to read something

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Speaker 3: deeper into that the government. You know, it's like, put

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Speaker 3: the boring documents out. We would all love to see

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Speaker 3: the boring documents, so long as of course they're not

556
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Speaker 3: ritraumatizing victims, and if they are mentioning different people, you

557
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 3: do have to be careful that they're not obviously incriminating

558
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Speaker 3: people whose names randomly pop up because someone you know

559
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Speaker 3: made or whatever. Like nobody's interested in a wild goose chase.

560
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: Like people just want justice. They want to understand why

561
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump and Bill Clinton we're in a birthday album

562
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Speaker 3: in two thousand and three for Jeffrey Epstein, and fortunately

563
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: people have are Unfortunately for them, people have filled in

564
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Speaker 3: the blanks for years, and not unreasonably so, with some

565
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: really disgusting theories, and they aren't disproving them unfortunately. So

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Speaker 3: at this point it's pretty clear that they don't have

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Speaker 3: a lot to do to disprove them.

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Speaker 4: There's more document news here outside of the one hundred

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Speaker 4: thousand documents. Apparently Lady just Laine has a box of

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Speaker 4: material of her own. She was just met with Trump's

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Speaker 4: deputy attorney general. And We've got a little video right

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Speaker 4: here that I'll share.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, her.

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Speaker 6: This is video of Maxwell returning to prison just moments

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Speaker 6: after meeting with Trump's deputy attorney general. And you can

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Speaker 6: see her there actually if you look closely, she's carrying

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Speaker 6: a box of material. Maxwell attorney says she was forthcoming

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Speaker 6: with every question that Trump's team threw at her today.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so Deputy Yeah, Deputy Eternal Attorney General Todd Blanche

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Speaker 3: was announced by Pam Bondi yesterday and he confirmed this

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Speaker 3: himself that he was going to meet with Gallaine Maxwell

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Speaker 3: in federal prison. And Blanche did meet with Gallaine Maxwell

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Speaker 3: indicated after that meeting that they are going to meet

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Speaker 3: again today, I believe, And Aaron Burnett rightfully pointed out

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Speaker 3: there on CNN Gallaine Maxwell was coming back from that

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Speaker 3: meeting ostensibly with a giant box. You could see her

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Speaker 3: like actually in the second clip that CNN rolled sort

588
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Speaker 3: of struggling with the weight of the box. That that's

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Speaker 3: quite interesting, that's quite and so.

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Speaker 4: Is she keeping that in her cell? Like is she

591
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Speaker 4: like using it? As like a like a like a

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Speaker 4: prop up for her pill. Oh, like what is what

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Speaker 4: is the Why did you get to just have that

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Speaker 4: in her cell? Like? Can we can someone visit her

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Speaker 4: and see the box? Like what is I wasn't aware that,

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Speaker 4: like you could just have classified materials in your in

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Speaker 4: your prison cell.

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Speaker 3: Well they may not be classified, they may just be

599
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Speaker 3: personal affects. And but that's very odd also to me

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Speaker 3: that you would have personal affects. What it could be

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Speaker 3: is that so Gallaine Maxwell's attorney also obviously has been

602
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Speaker 3: involved in this sole process. This is from a G.

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Speaker 3: Blanche who does say on the screen you see I

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Speaker 3: met with Glaie Maxwell, and I will continue my interview

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Speaker 3: of her tomorrow. The DJ will share additional information about

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Speaker 3: what we've learned at the appropriate time. So that means

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Speaker 3: they could be meeting literally as we speak here Griffin.

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Speaker 3: But what the box could have been supplied to Maxwell

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Speaker 3: by her attorney to whom she has given some of

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Speaker 3: these materials. And I think we have here, yes, we

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Speaker 3: have here a statement from Gallaine Maxwell's attorney, whose name

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Speaker 3: is Dave Marcus, on all of this. Put that up

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Speaker 3: on the screen. David Oscar Marcus, he says, looking forward

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Speaker 3: to another productive day tomorrow. Gallaine honestly answered every question

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Speaker 3: that a Deputy ag Blanche asked and she will continue

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Speaker 3: to do so. We are grateful that the government is

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Speaker 3: trying to uncover the truth. They have never before spoken

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Speaker 3: with her, and we trust the process. Yeah, now this

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Speaker 3: is getting interesting because well, first of all, the point

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Speaker 3: that the government has never done this. I mean, if

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Speaker 3: if that's the good that comes out of this Trump

622
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Speaker 3: administration circus, then I guess if we end up getting

623
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Speaker 3: more information out of this Trump administration circus because they've

624
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Speaker 3: fumbled the bag, looked ridiculous because Trump told them not

625
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Speaker 3: to put anything out, then I mean good, I guess.

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Speaker 3: But where this is going is, let's take a listen

627
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Speaker 3: here to Charlie.

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Speaker 7: Kirk, they are in discussions with the federal government about

629
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Speaker 7: holding discussions. Maxwell's cour sentenced to twenty years in federal

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Speaker 7: prison for sex trafficking, but it's pursuing a claim that

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Speaker 7: her trial was unfair.

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Speaker 4: Since she is still contesting her.

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Speaker 7: Own case, that may impact what she is ready to

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Speaker 7: tell prosecutors. But maybe some kind of a deal could

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Speaker 7: be reached for information we will see.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So that's Charlie Kirk saying maybe a deal could

637
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Speaker 3: be made in here. We also have Griffin representative Tim Burchett,

638
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 3: who has said all kinds of he's sort of known

639
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Speaker 3: for saying wacky stuff.

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Speaker 4: He's a yapper.

641
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Speaker 3: He's a yapper, he sure is. And I saw him

642
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Speaker 3: walking around the house last week with a skateboard, which

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Speaker 3: he may on skateboards. He makes his own skateboards. I

644
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Speaker 3: don't even know.

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Speaker 4: We needed Tim Poole. Tim Burchett combo, Oh, they probably

646
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Speaker 4: already worked on it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, he's been on this story. But also said,

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Speaker 3: you know, things like I also hang out with dirt bags,

649
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Speaker 3: like people hang out with dirt bags like me. I

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Speaker 3: think that's another thing he said yesterday. But here's we

651
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Speaker 3: said about there's.

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Speaker 4: A difference between dirt bags and pedophiles. I'll say, you know,

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Speaker 4: we're all allowed to have a dirtbag. Fram, maybe not

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Speaker 4: a pedophile. Fram.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's like a square. What is a ramas is

656
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Speaker 3: a square? But a square is number a rhombus. Soophile

657
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Speaker 3: is a dirt bag. Right, So here's here's burship.

658
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Speaker 4: She is a liar and she's a dirt bag.

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Speaker 8: And because the one thing we got holding over her

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Speaker 8: head is if we find out she lies, she goes

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Speaker 8: back to her original sentence, and that's that's looking at lifetime.

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Speaker 4: And if she's looking at maybe.

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Speaker 8: Parlay in this and the reducing her sentence, then we

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Speaker 8: could absolute leverage there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So Griffin, Yeah, there's you know, all of that

666
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Speaker 3: sounds in theory, fine, because that's the normal process here.

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Speaker 3: That's how oftentimes you get bombshell type information that helps

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Speaker 3: you better understand and pursue justice. In the case of Epstein,

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Speaker 3: for example, Epstein himself, for example in The Victims, but

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Speaker 3: combined with the details about Donald Trump's friendship with Jeffrey Epstein,

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Speaker 3: combined with Donald Trump's j is history of obfuscating just

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Speaker 3: in the course of six months on Epstein, the possibility

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Speaker 3: that you end up with some type of deal struck

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Speaker 3: to exonerate Trump, while Clinton, for example, Yes, that is

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Speaker 3: a different story. So the idea of striking a deal

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Speaker 3: with Glene Maxwell now for her victims, uh and estein

677
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Speaker 3: Epstein's Victims probably sounds absolutely disgusting on its face. And

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Speaker 3: we don't know exactly what a deal would look like,

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Speaker 3: what kind of deal it would be. You know, does

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Speaker 3: she still spend life in prison. What does it look like.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, But the idea that politically the Republicans

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Speaker 3: could like just pardon Maxwell and get away with it,

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Speaker 3: they can't. I mean that would take another level of

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Speaker 3: idiocy because people who are power hungry typically aren't quite

685
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Speaker 3: that dumb. But we'll see.

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Speaker 4: And also, she was correct me if I'm wrong, already

687
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Speaker 4: criminally charged. That's the reason that she's like currently in jail.

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Speaker 4: So like you are essentially freeing someone who was criminally

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Speaker 4: charged for sex trafficking, for taking minors across state lines

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Speaker 4: or traveling them for the purposes of sex trafficking. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: it would seem like a little absurd to be like, well,

692
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Speaker 4: Trump's not Trump's not in it and refreeing just laying

693
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Speaker 4: maybe like they're talking about a reduced sentence. But I mean,

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Speaker 4: think about it from like just Laine's perspective, Like essentially,

695
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Speaker 4: your option is like to tell a certain truth to

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Speaker 4: get a limited rede sentence or to be freed that

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Speaker 4: doesn't implicate Trump or any of the Trump DOJ handling

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Speaker 4: or any of that, or you tell a truth that

699
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Speaker 4: implicates Trump and what so they're gonna be like, oh,

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Speaker 4: you were extra honest, so we're still gonna free you

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Speaker 4: or reduce your sentence now, Like of course that's not

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Speaker 4: gonna happen. So it doesn't seem like it seems like

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Speaker 4: no matter what comes from these just Laying testimonies or

704
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Speaker 4: interviews or questions, that it needs to all be very,

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Speaker 4: very heavily scrutinized and that we're probably only seeing a

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Speaker 4: small peak through the curtain. Even if some of the

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Speaker 4: stuff that she says does turn out to be true,

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Speaker 4: it's probably gonna be very partisanally directed in one direction.

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Speaker 4: And listen, like, I think taking anybody down Democrat, Republican,

710
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Speaker 4: inempeded or you know, not non political a you know, celebrities,

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Speaker 4: you know, a listers like I'm okay with basically anyone

712
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Speaker 4: going down is an improvement. But yeah, it's like it

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Speaker 4: really does seem like this is kind of starting to

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Speaker 4: be crafted in a way to protect Trump. But it

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Speaker 4: doesn't really seem like they've thought through the ending of

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Speaker 4: that story, because I don't think people that are upset

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Speaker 4: about the handling right now are going to feel good

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Speaker 4: about Jizz Laying getting any kind of reduced sentence. Like,

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's any ending to that story that

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Speaker 4: makes people happy.

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Speaker 3: I'm so uncomfortable with the way you pronounce your name Griffin.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, gizz Gizz Lane.

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Speaker 3: You know Blaine, But even if it is just Lane,

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Speaker 3: you are so emphatic about the first half of the

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Speaker 3: word that's just it.

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't want to be psychoanalyzed on this podcast.

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm doing my best with all the names today.

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Speaker 3: We should we should, actually that is, we should do

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Speaker 3: an episode like the It's Always Sunny episode where they

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Speaker 3: get analyzed by Kerry Kenny Silver as I think called

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Speaker 3: the Gang gets analyzed. We should do that with the

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Speaker 3: Breaking Points crew.

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Speaker 4: That can be in a Paywald second half of a

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Speaker 4: Friday show for sure.

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Speaker 3: Oh it would have to be Paywald.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I do think though, that the MAGA commentators, the

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Speaker 4: people that are trying to take the smoke off of

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Speaker 4: Trump are flying very close to the sun with this

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Speaker 4: one we've got here from Newsmax describing Glaine as a victim.

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Speaker 9: She's also been subpoened by the Oversight Committee. I think

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Speaker 9: this is great. I do have a feeling that she

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Speaker 9: has been She just might be a victim. She just

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Speaker 9: might be. There was a rusty judgment. There was a

744
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Speaker 9: lot of chaos there for a while.

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Speaker 3: All Right.

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Speaker 9: Granted she hung out with Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, granted hung out.

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Speaker 3: She procured the women. Granted, the women who have been

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Speaker 3: victimized have said that it was Gallaine Maxwell, who is

750
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Speaker 3: oftentimes either abusing them or procuring them for abuse. That aside,

751
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Speaker 3: she may also be a victim.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the hangout was limited, So not only are they

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Speaker 4: you know, I think this is just a huge, huge fumble,

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Speaker 4: because it's like, listen, if you're gonna be like questioning

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00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 4: her and suggesting a reduced sentence, you gotta still say

756
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Speaker 4: that she's bad, Like you can't be like, actually, this

757
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Speaker 4: whole thing might be wrong, like maybe everybody's innocent. This

758
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 4: was so rushed, So yeah, I do think that this

759
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Speaker 4: stuff may actually come around to potentially hurt them even

760
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Speaker 4: more unless the only antidote is just a mass dumb

761
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Speaker 4: of documents and yeah, you redact the hell out of

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Speaker 4: them or whatever, but like that is the only cure

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Speaker 4: to this, not like a rehabilitation of Maxwell.

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Speaker 3: Glynne Maxwell. Well, if you start rehabilitating Glenn Maxwell, then yeah,

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Speaker 3: you lay the groundwork for potential I'm not saying Greg

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Speaker 3: Kelly is doing that. But if people in the MAGA

767
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Speaker 3: world start getting nudged by the Department of Justice to

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Speaker 3: rehabilitate Glenn Maxwell and saying, hey, hey, she was sort

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Speaker 3: of railroaded on this, this and that, and you start

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Speaker 3: seeing rhetoric like this, then yeah, it's it's definitely a sign.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Maxwell, if anything wasn't like, got off kind

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Speaker 3: of easy. So people can go revisit how she was prosecuted.

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Speaker 3: But the idea that she's a victim is like beyond

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Speaker 3: far fetched. I don't even sort of want to do

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Speaker 3: it justice now.

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Speaker 4: Griffin, do you want to steal man that?

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Speaker 3: I don't even feel the need to at this point,

778
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Speaker 3: But I'm sure we will get all kinds of steel

779
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Speaker 3: manning of that in the days to come before we

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Speaker 3: get to well, actually we might as well at this

781
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Speaker 3: point get to the south Park dust up and gen

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Speaker 3: z a little bit. Although I guess south Park is

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Speaker 3: sort of millennial code. I don't know. The zoomers, can

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Speaker 3: U the zoomers who are like Zoomer hipsters who watch

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Speaker 3: south Park can correct me in the comments. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: you will.

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Speaker 4: Well, the zoomers are watching it in like thirty two

788
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 4: sections on TikTok okay, So we're not respecting their viewing habits.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like Quibi never died. Quibi will always do with.

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Speaker 4: This whoa you know what Quebe was? That's a that's

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Speaker 4: a very deep cut.

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Speaker 9: Oh I was.

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Speaker 3: I was on Quibi screeners. I was watching Whoa. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I used to be a culture writer, Griffin, lest you forget,

795
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Speaker 3: but yeah, lots of Well, basically I use the Quibi

796
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Speaker 3: screeners just to watch the Reno nine to one one

797
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Speaker 3: screeners and called it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, all right, you're actually you're a victim.

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Speaker 4: You're a victim.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you, thank you for acknowledging that. Finally, yah

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Speaker 3: south Park. Well, actually, let's just put a bow on

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Speaker 3: the Trump segment. This is both It's given them a

803
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 3: lot to work with, and it's given them so they're

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00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 3: damned if they do and damned if they don't. And

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00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 3: I just want to say that's that's kind of an

806
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: obvious point. But because of the nature of the Epstein case,

807
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: I think this is worth noting. It gives them a

808
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: huge advantage and a huge disadvantage. The huge advantage is

809
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Speaker 3: that this is sprawling. This case sprawls across industries, across decades,

810
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Speaker 3: and across like different crimes that have potentially been committed.

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Speaker 3: So what that means is like the Kennedy file. And

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Speaker 3: I think that's where this is heading. The Trump administration

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Speaker 3: and any other administration can come in and run out

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Speaker 3: the clock and keep pulling at threads here, threads there,

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Speaker 3: and say we're waiting, we're waiting, we're waiting. Okay, we

816
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 3: got what we wanted, wasn't enough here, so we're going

817
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Speaker 3: to go over here, We're going to go look at

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Speaker 3: those Treasury Department records, Okay, when we're going to go

819
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Speaker 3: talk to Maxwell in prison. And then you don't hear

820
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Speaker 3: from it, you don't hear much from it for a

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Speaker 3: few months, and then by the time the administration is over,

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Speaker 3: they've sort of gone through the motions of pulling on

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Speaker 3: these threads and we have gotten drips and drabs, And

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Speaker 3: I think that's probably what will happen. We will get

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Speaker 3: drips and drabs, and people who wanted drips and drabs

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Speaker 3: or wanted more information, we'll say, by the end of

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Speaker 3: the Trump administration, they gave us something. But of course

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Speaker 3: by giving you something, they've probably often hidden other things.

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Speaker 3: We're learning this right now with the Jonities file in

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Speaker 3: the Kennedy case, that you can disclose all kinds of

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Speaker 3: things and use those disclosures as good as the disclosure

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Speaker 3: is as a way to obfuscate. And so I think

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Speaker 3: that's where we're heading. I think it's an advantage for

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Speaker 3: the Trump administration that the case is so sprawling, and

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Speaker 3: for any political party Democrats as well, given the Clinton affiliations,

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Speaker 3: that they are not conveniently ignoring. But this is going

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Speaker 3: to be an advantage for the political class to just

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Speaker 3: run out the clock on the case until basically everybody

839
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Speaker 3: is dead, which is what's happening exactly what's happening with

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Speaker 3: the Kennedy case. So I think that's where this is interesting.

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Speaker 4: Well. And then then my final bow is this statement

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Speaker 4: from Trump, who is feeling still very stressed out all this.

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Speaker 4: How Trump sees it. Trump has ruminated about the Epstein

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Speaker 4: fileout for weeks. They're gonna accuse me of some funny business,

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Speaker 4: he said recently in the Oval Office, according to a

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Speaker 4: Republican close to the White House who personally heard the

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Speaker 4: President make those comments. Trump again maintained his distance from

848
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Speaker 4: Epstein's criminal behavior but lamented they're gonna fuck me anyways,

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Speaker 4: So well, we'll see. We'll see who's getting fucked by

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Speaker 4: the end of this thing. Could be quite quite a

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Speaker 4: few people. But did we want to answer the.

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Speaker 3: Answers answer to the public. Yes, let's move on to

853
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Speaker 3: South Park and South Park's war with a Trump administration.

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00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 3: Now we should be clear. At the top of this,

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Speaker 3: Griffin and I are going to play some of the

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Speaker 3: full video in the paywild section, So Breakingpoints dot Com

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Speaker 3: if you want to see that and get the second

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Speaker 3: half of these Friday shows. We're gonna roll the clip there,

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Speaker 3: but for copyright reasons obviously, But there are some poll

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Speaker 3: numbers that we're gonna talk about along with the Trump

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Speaker 3: administry war on South Park. So Griffin set this up

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Speaker 3: for us, and then we'll talk a little bit about

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00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 3: what's happening. Like this was happening in the White House

864
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 3: while I was in the briefigreove yesterday and the scuttle

865
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: butt was like it was one of those everybody it

866
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: was like, oh, they just bought out a statement on

867
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 3: south Park. So set us up for us.

868
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, So, I mean this is amidst of a one

869
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 4: point five billion dollar deal from Paramount to own all

870
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Speaker 4: of the South Park catalog and all of the future

871
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 4: episodes coming out, which is a massive media deal. And

872
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 4: Trey and Matt have done what is honestly the most

873
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 4: honorable thing to do as a comic, which is to

874
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 4: spit in the face of the money men and you know,

875
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 4: kind of stick there a nose that kind of everyone

876
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 4: by immediately taking that money and I actually don't even

877
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 4: know if that deal's even fully finished being inked yet,

878
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 4: but taking that deal and immediately going and essentially going

879
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 4: I was what I'm calling dark woke against Trump. We're

880
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 4: gonna We're gonna play I'm gonna just I'm gonna share

881
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 4: note out video and I'll describe it for the audio

882
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 4: listeners here what we're looking at. Miight's touch ended up

883
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 4: sharing some of the copyrighted version of this here. I

884
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 4: won't play the audio. But this is I think the

885
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 4: scene that upset people the most. If you're seeing this

886
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 4: on screen right now, you've seen this Emily yep.

887
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 3: So uh.

888
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 4: This is a AI video that ended the South Park

889
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 4: episode of Trump walking through the desert, taking off all

890
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 4: of his clothes, getting naked and then I'm not gonna

891
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not gonna show this last part for

892
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 4: the YouTube sensors, but revealing his micro penis and then

893
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 4: his micro penis speaks and that's the end of the episode.

894
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 4: It's wow. It reminds me, you know, it reminded me

895
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 4: of like early resistance in twenty sixteen around Trump and this,

896
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 4: like you know, this, this the micro penis thing was

897
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 4: huge in twenty sixteen. I remember in La there was

898
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 4: this coffee shop that installed a naked Trump statue that showed,

899
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 4: and it was actually a big flare up and they

900
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 4: actually ended up taking the statue down and apologizing because

901
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 4: back then it was normal woke, and they're like, actually,

902
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 4: this is body shaming. This is wrong. He's he's we

903
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 4: don't like him, but it's wrong to be a body shamer.

904
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 4: But now in this Trump two era, now we're in

905
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 4: dark woke. Now, body shaming is back in a big way,

906
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 4: and we're allowed to be as as cruel and sort

907
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 4: of as as rude and as disgusting as the other

908
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 4: side because they deserve it.

909
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 3: It will be really interesting if the death of cancel

910
00:50:53,320 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 3: culture makes DEM's attack on Trump more pot because cancel

911
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 3: Culture's over, Dems like actually get their mojo in attacking

912
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 3: Trump because they don't have to worry about body shaming

913
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: Donald Trump, like if it actually empowers uh, the attacks

914
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 3: on Trump. But that's actually a thing, by the way,

915
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: not that South Park was compliant with quote unquote wakeness,

916
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 3: but uh there there was just like a total chill

917
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 3: of obviously comedy on the left for the first Trump administration,

918
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 3: Like that's when all of this was building. So it

919
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 3: may be the case actually that this is a these

920
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 3: attacks on Trump are going to be a lot better. Honestly,

921
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: I kind of I'm not a South Park fan. That

922
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 3: probably won't surprise anybody, but I kind of expected butter

923
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 3: from the clips that I've seen, Like, am I wrong?

924
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like there's more to the

925
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 3: diaper done micro penis stuff is so it feels like

926
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 3: it feels like so.

927
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 4: It doesn't have substance, it feels like it's Yeah. I've

928
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 4: been like, yeah, well there's a few things about it

929
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 4: and kind of put a pin in that because I

930
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 4: do have a little bit more to say about like

931
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 4: the I guess the type of comedy they're doing with it,

932
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 4: But there was a lot of this did feel like

933
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 4: a big moment for the show because they'd refuse to

934
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 4: mention Trump before this. They had set up a different

935
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 4: character as a Trump stand in this like teacher at

936
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 4: the school. We like painted his face orange and he

937
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 4: was kind of the Trump standing because they feel like

938
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 4: they didn't want to just be like ripping on Trump

939
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 4: every week. They felt like it might be tired territory

940
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 4: because that's what the rest of the media was doing.

941
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 4: But it seems like now they're just like, you know what,

942
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 4: fuck it. If he's gonna be around for another four years,

943
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 4: you know, we might as well do it. And they

944
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 4: represented Trump in the show in sort of a very

945
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 4: sort of full circle way as what they used to

946
00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 4: do for Saddam Hussang. So we're just gonna play with

947
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 4: no audio here, but for people who just listening, uh,

948
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 4: they're doing a full animated realization of like Trump's face,

949
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 4: but they're doing it in the style that they used

950
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 4: to do Saddam Who's sing And in the episode they

951
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 4: are like, oh, you know, the biggest I think substantial

952
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 4: critique the episode makes about Trump at all is that

953
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 4: Trump is acting like a Middle East dictator. Is essentially

954
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 4: what they say.

955
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not a bad I mean that's actually more novel. Like, right,

956
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 3: he's guilt. He's like redecorating the Oval Office to look

957
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 3: like a Sagar Alway says, yeah, there you see him

958
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 3: in bed with Satan and yeah, we'll get into that

959
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 3: in the premium half. But he is like redecorating the

960
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 3: Oval Office to make it look like Aser, says Versalles.

961
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 3: But like as other people say Saddam's palace, that's that's

962
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 3: what it's giving. It's giving Saddam, and so that's I mean,

963
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 3: there's something to it, right, Like he loves being sort

964
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 3: of a I say, mob boss in a sense that

965
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 3: I don't know how much he would even disagree with it, right,

966
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 3: Like the Roy Kohane, I'm in charge, and I'm going

967
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 3: to actually act like I'm in charge, not like I'm

968
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 3: delegating all of my powers to the bureaucracy.

969
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 4: But on the zero in the lawsuit part, they zero

970
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 4: in in south Park, on the oh, I'm going to

971
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 4: assue you, like they kind of make Trump's lawsuits to

972
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 4: be this like toy like I'm gonna sue you. They

973
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 4: they make the lawsuits and how Trump sues people to

974
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 4: be this kind of like essentially like bitch made kind

975
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 4: of way of acting. It's like, oh, like his main

976
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 4: thing is like whenever he doesn't like someone, he's gonna

977
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 4: sue them, and they're that's kind of like the main

978
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 4: critique of Trump in this Outside of like Middle East dictator,

979
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 4: there's really no talk of like immigration or any of

980
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,479
Speaker 4: the other things that I guess liberals are upset about

981
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 4: with Trump. I mean, there's like a little bit about

982
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 4: like bombing or something like that, but essentially the episode

983
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 4: cuts to just sort of like a deeper character U

984
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 4: teak of Trump, that he is this Middle East dictator,

985
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 4: that he's very full of himself, and that he is

986
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 4: in bed with Satan, and that he sues people because

987
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 4: he is so insecure himself. And this all really triggered

988
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 4: the White House so much that the White House felt

989
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 4: like they had to give an official statement, which I'm

990
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 4: going to put on the screen here.

991
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 3: They gave a statement to Rolling Stone, So Rolling Stone

992
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 3: reached out. Clearly, Rolling Stone reached out, and the White

993
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 3: House responded.

994
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 4: And the White House said, through dried tears, the Left's

995
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 4: hypocrisy truly has no end. For years, they have come

996
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 4: after South Park for what they labeled as offensive content,

997
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 4: but suddenly they're praising the show. Just like the creators

998
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 4: of South Park, the Left has no authentic or original content,

999
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 4: which is why their popularity continues to hit record lows.

1000
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 4: This show hasn't been relevant for over twenty years and

1001
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 4: is hanging on by a thread with uninspired ideas in

1002
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 4: a desperate attempt for attention. President Trump has delivered on

1003
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 4: more promises in just six months than any other president

1004
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 4: in our country's history, and no fourth rate show can

1005
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 4: derail President Trump's hot streak. So you know, the best

1006
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 4: way to tell people you're not mad is by giving

1007
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 4: a very lengthy statement about why you're not mad.

1008
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. So people found a don

1009
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 3: Or tweet I'm pulling it up right now and old

1010
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 3: Don Junior tweeting, I think this is when south Park

1011
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 3: was yet here it is, this was him. This is

1012
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 3: Don Junior responding back in twenty twenty three to South

1013
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 3: Park going after what someone on Twitter said was quote

1014
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 3: unquote woke Disney content. But here's Don Junior said, this

1015
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 3: is the pull numbers on gen Z. We're gonna get

1016
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 3: to that in a second. Sorry, we're sharing this one,

1017
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 3: Don Jor. Ha ha ha ha ha as always part

1018
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 3: do it all, Yeah, every ha, south Park doesn't miss

1019
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three.

1020
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 4: And you know, like in the White House statement, they're

1021
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 4: like they refer to south Park as the left, whereas

1022
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 4: south Park has always been known as more of this

1023
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 4: like libertarian streak where they kind of like hit both

1024
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 4: sides over the years. It does seem like and like

1025
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 4: and I, you know, to give the White House some credit,

1026
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 4: and not that they deserve any, but do it. I

1027
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 4: will say, I will steal man their case and say

1028
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 4: that I do think that South Park has evolved to

1029
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 4: be a little bit more left liberal than sort of

1030
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 4: snotty libertarian. Both sides are equally bad. They have done

1031
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 4: big things like they've gone back and apologize for Man

1032
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 4: Bear Pig saying that they actually think climate change is

1033
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 4: a big problem and they were being too flipping about it.

1034
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 4: They've they've done a few other things like that where

1035
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 4: they're kind of like, you know, updating the way they

1036
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 4: talk about these subjects because I think they feel like

1037
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 4: probably a lot of other independence and libertarians that well this,

1038
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 4: you know, maybe they felt ten fifteen years ago like

1039
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 4: both sides were equally bad, but when they see this

1040
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 4: Republican administration and action, they find themselves a far closer

1041
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 4: identifying to the left than to the right, And I

1042
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 4: do so. I do think it is fair to say

1043
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 4: that South Park is a little bit more liberal than

1044
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 4: it used to be.

1045
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's actually a really good point in

1046
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 3: many such cases, by the way, And I understand why

1047
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 3: people have done that, because they don't want to have

1048
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 3: any culpability for what they see with Trump as being

1049
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 3: so beyond the pale. I get that. I mean, I

1050
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 3: think a lot of people on the right have a

1051
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 3: similar thing where they no longer want to give any

1052
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 3: credence to the idea that, like the left might have

1053
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 3: some points here and there, which is where you end

1054
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 3: up with these like absurd partisan defenses of every breath

1055
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 3: that Donald Trump takes. Instead of just kind of calling

1056
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 3: balls and strikes even when he does something that is

1057
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 3: like very non conservative, for example, you get conservatives kind

1058
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 3: of This is where the Saddam critique is actually pretty good,

1059
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 3: breathlessly defending him at every step of the way. So yeah,

1060
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 3: I understand the argument, like you don't want to feel

1061
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 3: like you have blood on your hands, so to speak,

1062
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 3: for creating Trump, or like fueling trump Ism from their perspective,

1063
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 3: It's the same thing with people.

1064
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 4: On the right.

1065
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 3: But it is just like kind of lame. I don't know, Griffin,

1066
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 3: so okay to more of a if Sager were here,

1067
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 3: If Sager were here, he'd be like shut the He'd

1068
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 3: be like, shut up. They are the best that have

1069
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 3: ever lived.

1070
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 4: Oh.

1071
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 3: Sager loves south Park nice. He said to us yesterday.

1072
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 3: He was like, and I think I think Crystal does too.

1073
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 3: I'm I'm not positive, but Sager was like, you don't

1074
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 3: understand how how important they were during the Bush administration.

1075
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 4: I agree with that. I agree with that. Well, soccer

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Speaker 4: has a liberal media. Diet Sacer is a Harry Potter conservative.

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Speaker 3: Harry Potter conservative.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 3: That's a great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's like, you know, it's like there

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Speaker 4: he he loves media, And let's be honest, most media

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Speaker 4: is liberal leaning, Like I mean, like, you know, there's Yellowstone,

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Speaker 4: I guess there's I don't know some more like like

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Speaker 4: I don't know is Bosh republican conservative media like I

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Speaker 4: don't know, Like there's very few conservative directed blue bloods

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Speaker 4: land man. I mean that they're all from the same

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Speaker 4: time with uh yeah, but yeah, so there is always

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Speaker 4: been this lack of conservative art. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: that's because conservatives thought that like doing art was a

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Speaker 4: or like not not a great like profession or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Like I'm not really sure. Well I think it's I

1092
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,919
Speaker 4: think it's gay coded but in a good way. But

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Speaker 4: uh yeah, I mean I wanted to go back to

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Speaker 4: like the your critique of like the humor of South Park,

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01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 4: because I did kind of agree like that. It was like, okay,

1096
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 4: so the jokes on Trump are like he has a

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Speaker 4: micro penis and he's gay for Satan, yeah, and and

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Speaker 4: it's like, okay, it's like it's kind of like an

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Speaker 4: old school way of like making fun of like a

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Speaker 4: like a politician or whatever. I don't know if I

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Speaker 4: needed South Park to have like a more substantive like

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Speaker 4: dismantling of like ice or or anything like that. And

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Speaker 4: in a certain way, it was kind of fun to

1104
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Speaker 4: just kind of go at something more lobidinal with Trump

1105
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 4: because they knew it would have it probably would upset

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Speaker 4: him more, and like it seemed like a lot of

1107
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Speaker 4: the goal was to just upset him and to kind

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Speaker 4: of scare this media sphere that's afraid of lawsuits that's

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Speaker 4: been paying off Trump and and and very scared of

1110
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Speaker 4: these lawsuits. So I think from a sort of a

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01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 4: meta comedy narrative perspective, I think it was the funniest

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Speaker 4: way to do it because it really did spit in

1113
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Speaker 4: the face of Paramount and Trump at the same time,

1114
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 4: which is kind of the best way to be a comedian,

1115
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 4: to to kind of like give respect to no one

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Speaker 4: in power.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is a I think an important point because

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Speaker 3: they obviously CBS made the Pairmount made a decision to

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Speaker 3: cancel its late show franchise, storied franchise in like the

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Speaker 3: history of American media, and a lot of people saw that.

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to disagree with, for example, stoler

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Speaker 3: Matt Stoller, who says, you know, it's all about the merger.

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Speaker 3: They want to, you know, give them with grease the

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Speaker 3: skids a little bit, tell the Trump administration they got

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Speaker 3: rid of Colbert and it'll help the Paramount to guidance merger.

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Speaker 3: I actually don't disagree that some of that may be

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Speaker 3: happening behind the scenes, that they're using it like it's

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Speaker 3: it is a financial decision. I think clearly it is

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Speaker 3: a financial decision because they're not just getting rid of

1130
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Speaker 3: Colbert and trying to juice the ratings and get more

1131
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Speaker 3: ad revenue. They're getting rid of the entire Late Show

1132
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Speaker 3: and so, but that could be kind of juicing the right,

1133
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Speaker 3: That could be juicing their caste right. They can use

1134
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Speaker 3: that behind the scenes and be like, lit'ten we got

1135
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Speaker 3: rid of Colbert, even if it wasn't really about that.

1136
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Speaker 3: You can sort of toss it in there. It doesn't hurt,

1137
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Speaker 3: I'm sure because Trump also put out a long post

1138
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Speaker 3: on True Social about Colbert after Colbert lost the slot

1139
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Speaker 3: to what we were making about how long the south

1140
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Speaker 3: Park statement was. This stuff really does get under his skin.

1141
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Speaker 3: But they do have this merger that the FCC, which

1142
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Speaker 3: is now Brendan Carr was talking about the view potentially

1143
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Speaker 3: being in trouble. He is reviewing like licensing. I think

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Speaker 3: it's it's mostly posturing, because it is true that the

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Speaker 3: government does have a job to make sure that people

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Speaker 3: are using their broadcast licenses quote unquote in the public interest.

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Speaker 3: That has been I mean, south Park is one of

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Speaker 3: the originals that challenged those you know back in the

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Speaker 3: day when Siger's talking about you know, the hits that

1150
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Speaker 3: they were taking against the Bush administration, for example, in

1151
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Speaker 3: a wartime period it was really edgy then to challenge

1152
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Speaker 3: what you could put on cable television on TV.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we're constantly on the verge of being canceled

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Speaker 4: just for the proprocative material they put out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, which is why when you do it now.

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Speaker 3: And I actually feel very similarly about John Stuart and

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Speaker 3: Stephen Colbert, like it does lose the edge because we're

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Speaker 3: they were part of that, like as a testament to

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Speaker 3: their success, Like they numbed us to the edginess of

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Speaker 3: some of this. But if Paramount thought that Nixon Colbert

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Speaker 3: would help with the merger, that argument definitely doesn't make

1162
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Speaker 3: sense because they knew this South Park shit was about

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Speaker 3: to drop.

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Speaker 4: No, the thing is South Park makes their episodes in

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Speaker 4: four days, so there's no way Para, there's no way

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Speaker 4: Paramount knew the level of how hard they were about

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Speaker 4: to go with this episode that was most likely written

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Speaker 4: on Monday and Tuesday. Right, that's true.

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Speaker 3: But they Park was coming out during the Trump.

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Speaker 4: Sure, sure, yeah, but but they were like, well it's

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Speaker 4: not Trump. They like have kind of shifted it off

1172
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Speaker 4: to this other character. So it's in safe territory, but

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Speaker 4: Matt and Trey decided to do something far funnier. So overall,

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Speaker 4: on a comedy critique level, on a meta comedy level,

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Speaker 4: I do think it's funny. I think it's funny to

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Speaker 4: ship on not just Trump, but on all these media

1177
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Speaker 4: institutions that are scared of him. But uh, okay, we've

1178
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Speaker 4: got some Donald Trump's approval among jims.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and let's get to Israel in one second.

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Speaker 4: Just rap, we want to get to that as well

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Speaker 4: before we go to the second half. Just for just

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Speaker 4: a little touch on that for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yep. And let's let's just wrap on this point though

1184
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Speaker 3: about the vibes. So Trump was actually above water according

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Speaker 3: to this polling, which is from CBS, and you go

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Speaker 3: when he no, h no, when he took office, which

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Speaker 3: is for a republic president shocking. That's you know, we're

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Speaker 3: talking about eighteen twenty nine year olds. That's crazy for again,

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Speaker 3: a Republican president. He is now so underwater with gen

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Speaker 3: Z and that happened in six months. So this is

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Speaker 3: being connected in the media. The points also being connected

1192
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Speaker 3: to the Epstein scandal. Morning Console has pulling on this too.

1193
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 3: They put Trump's approval rating in an all time low

1194
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 3: with gen Z seventy one percent disapproving of his job,

1195
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Speaker 3: only twenty eight percent in the CBS poll approve of him,

1196
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Speaker 3: and twenty four percent in the Morning consult Pro Pole

1197
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Speaker 3: approve of him. And again, that is a hell of

1198
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Speaker 3: a decline from when he was, I mean, he was

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Speaker 3: barely above water. This chart's really helpful, but you can

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Speaker 3: see here this is the U of CBS numbers. There's

1201
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Speaker 3: a point where he's at fifty five percent with gen Z,

1202
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Speaker 3: fifty five percent approval with gen Z that is now

1203
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Speaker 3: at twenty eight percent and just forty five percent disapproval

1204
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 3: with gen Z that's now it's seventy two percent. That

1205
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 3: is a really I mean, that is a really really

1206
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 3: sharp change. That's you don't see that often in political polling,

1207
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 3: where something changes so dramatically so quickly. And the right

1208
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 3: was using those numbers at the time to say this

1209
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 3: is a new chapter, this is a vibe shift, this

1210
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 3: is Trump doing the unthinkable for the culture and for

1211
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 3: the right. But Griffin, that has actually all crumbled really

1212
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 3: really quickly, and the vibes are I mean, the vibes

1213
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Speaker 3: are the we talked about, how about gen Z votes

1214
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 3: on economics and all of that. But I think this

1215
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 3: is a pretty clear indication that Trump is not making

1216
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 3: the argument successfully. If he thinks it's true that he's

1217
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 3: delivered on his promises, he's not making that argument at all.

1218
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean for just for me, Like to me,

1219
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 4: it just reads as you know, these these people, these

1220
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 4: gen z conservatives, they seem to be a lot more

1221
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 4: reachable if you're trying to convince them of a more

1222
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 4: left liberal perspective, like, well, yeah, they're not conservative, it's

1223
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 4: based on vibes. They're not. Really, they're not. They're majority

1224
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 4: not driven by by like a religious faith. They're not

1225
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 4: driven by like a neo con view of the world.

1226
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 4: And Trump hasn't made the economy like much better for

1227
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 4: them to notice in their own lives, they can't still

1228
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 4: afford a house. Grocery prices I mean, I'm told they're

1229
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 4: going down, they still seem really expensive to me personally.

1230
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, it doesn't seem like there is much for

1231
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 4: them to get excited about. And you know, the like

1232
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Speaker 4: I was at Fourth of July with some Maga patriots.

1233
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Speaker 4: I did a little Maga Fourth of July and uh

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Speaker 4: Venice Beach, listen out there.

1235
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Speaker 3: Okay, no, No, California is a maga hub, absolutely.

1236
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Speaker 4: And you know, they were just low energy, kind of

1237
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 4: depressed about the whole thing and just being like, ah,

1238
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 4: just kind of feeling like they got burned Iran on Israel.

1239
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,719
Speaker 4: They even told me, you know, that they hated watching

1240
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 4: these ice videos of some mom getting taken away, like

1241
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 4: that wasn't what they were expecting. So I don't know,

1242
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 4: just to say that these people are movable, these people

1243
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 4: are not like a monolith that is gonna go along

1244
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 4: with everything. I don't know what that means for Trump's term,

1245
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 4: if that affects the midterms truly or not, because you know,

1246
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:25,759
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you cannot like Trump,

1247
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 4: but then you see whatever the next Kamala Harris is

1248
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 4: and you don't like that either. So everyone has to

1249
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 4: kind of make the devil's choice there. Do we want

1250
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 4: to get to Israel before we jet over to the

1251
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Speaker 4: second half? Yep?

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, that's the point you can hype.

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01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 3: You had a lot of disillusion lefties either stay home

1254
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 3: or vote for Trump because he seemed like the lesser

1255
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 3: of two evils. Actually, even on the Gaza question, not

1256
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 3: a lot, not everyone but enough to swing probably in Michigan.

1257
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 3: So the lesser of two evils has always benefited that

1258
01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 3: calculation has always benefitted Donald Trump. Griffin. We are now

1259
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 3: awaiting really a response from the Trump administration that is

1260
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 3: matching the tone of the public and even some people

1261
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,799
Speaker 3: on the right who are increasingly sounding the alarm about

1262
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 3: the famine in Gaza.

1263
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:23,959
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, it has been a twenty four hours

1264
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 4: for sure on the topic where people from all over

1265
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 4: that from the pro zionist crowd are starting to what

1266
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 4: I would say, it's kind of cover your ass time,

1267
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 4: where all of a sudden people are putting out statements

1268
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 4: on the record saying, oh, actually, we don't like the

1269
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 4: starvation policy here. And it's really alarming because we're seeing

1270
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 4: people like Barry Wise, people from the Free Presence stuff

1271
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 4: like that make statements which really, to me is a

1272
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 4: sign that we are at a very dark point, potentially

1273
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 4: a point of no return with this siege and starvation.

1274
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Speaker 3: So let's I'm gonna share this right now. Here's the

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01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 3: Free Press Barry Weiss, The Price of Flower shows the

1276
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 3: growing hunger crisis in Gaza. Important report she points to

1277
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 3: that was in the Free Press just yesterday so that

1278
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 3: was the headline of the story The Price of Flower

1279
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 3: shows the hunger cress a month ago. I'm sure if

1280
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 3: I scrolled down, we'll see it in the mentions. Yeah, Griff,

1281
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 3: and go ahead, this is what you're what I'm about.

1282
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 4: A month ago in the Free Press there was an

1283
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 4: article that says, the Gaza famine myth less than like

1284
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 4: thirty days ago. So everyone is kind of trying to

1285
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 4: get out of this when it's far too late. I mean,

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Speaker 4: we're getting reports right now that I would say, there's

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Speaker 4: almost like what there's the majority of the population is

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Speaker 4: in now stage five of malnutrition and starvation. And what's

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Speaker 4: so dangerous about that stage is that's kind of the

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Speaker 4: point of no return. That's the point where even if

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Speaker 4: you are given food, even if you are finally given aid,

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Speaker 4: your body will be irrevocably changed, and that it's not

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Speaker 4: enough to ever recover from. And we're hearing that a

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Speaker 4: majority of the population is currently in that stage or

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Speaker 4: nearing that stage.

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Speaker 3: And I was gonna say, don't take it from Lefty Griffin,

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Speaker 3: you can take it here from Javiv Retiger of the

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Speaker 3: Free Press. It was just obviously staunch defender of Israel,

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Speaker 3: the Israeli Left, Yes, so is Yeah, this is the

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Speaker 3: free press posting Israeli journalist havev retig Gur after twenty

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Speaker 3: two months of false and he's been on our show.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Ryan booked him and debated him a

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Speaker 3: bit a few months back. After twenty two months of

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Speaker 3: false or misleading reports in Western media, Gaza is now

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Speaker 3: actually approaching catastrophic levels of hunger. We are very close

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Speaker 3: to real, actual desperate hunger in Gaza. It's hard to

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Speaker 3: convince Israelis of that because literally everything's to them for

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Speaker 3: twenty two months on this topic has been a fiction.

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Speaker 3: We need to wake them up. Here's a little bit.

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Speaker 10: From the major news reports about hunger over the last

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Speaker 10: twenty two months. Has been wrong, sometimes mistaken, sometimes brazen

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Speaker 10: and ridiculous. Line and when you hear a report about

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Speaker 10: hunger in Gaza, always wait forty eight hours.

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Speaker 4: Just pin it, stick it.

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Speaker 10: In your bookmarks and your browser, or print it out

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Speaker 10: and put it on your desk and come back to

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Speaker 10: it forty eight hours later and check if it's still true,

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Speaker 10: because most people turn out not to have been true.

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Speaker 3: So Griffin, what we're getting from that is, basically it's

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Speaker 3: the media's fault. It's the left's fault for crying wolf right.

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Speaker 3: And what's I think important about that is, as somebody

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Speaker 3: on the right, one of the lines that you've heard

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Speaker 3: over and over again from the Israeli right and the

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Speaker 3: American right that basically takes talking points from the Israeli

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Speaker 3: right defers to the Israeli right over and over again.

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Speaker 3: Is that okay? So if people are hungering, Gauza, why

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Speaker 3: aren't they dying of starvation in drugs? And it's because

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Speaker 3: people were on the cusp. And that's always been the line.

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Speaker 3: People are on the cusp of starvation and death, and

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Speaker 3: you need to get food in. Now what's happened, correct

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Speaker 3: me if I'm wrong on this Griffin over the last

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Speaker 3: week or so more than a week, is that it stopped.

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Speaker 3: It actually stopped people. That's what everybody was warning about.

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Speaker 3: To the point that he's making there, those warnings were insufficient.

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Speaker 3: Now the food is not getting in and now people

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Speaker 3: are dying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, starvation deaths are in the hundreds.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 4: You know, we were seeing starvations over the last six

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Speaker 4: to eight months, typically with children that were that had

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Speaker 4: healthy malis and things like that. But now We're seeing

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Speaker 4: people without health conditions starving to death. We're seeing pictures

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01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 4: of children that are just bones, babies that have trash

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01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 4: bags for diapers because there's nothing left, and they're just

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Speaker 4: skinning bones. And I think what frustrates me so much

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Speaker 4: about Haviev and these free press and all these people

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Speaker 4: coming in super late and saying, oh, well, it's been

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Speaker 4: so tough to talk about this subject because you know,

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Speaker 4: everyone's been crying wolf for two years saying they're starving.

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Speaker 4: But that's not how starvation works. You don't wait till

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Speaker 4: people are actually falling over and dying of starvation. To

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01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 4: prevent a starvation, you have to do it in the

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01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 4: early stages, or it becomes impossible to stop. It becomes

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Speaker 4: this large snowball. And we've got right here pulled up

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Speaker 4: an experience from a few kids. These are teenagers that

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Speaker 4: were abducted from the Gazza humanitarian sites and we're tortured.

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Speaker 4: You know what this person is saying, if you can't read,

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Speaker 4: if you're just listening on the podcast, is you know

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Speaker 4: a group of children. I believe that this manner here,

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Speaker 4: this child is like fourteen or fifteen. There were people

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Speaker 4: as young as like ten eleven twelve with him. They

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Speaker 4: were at one of these sites looking for aid. They

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Speaker 4: were taken by Israeli forces and held and tortured. They

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Speaker 4: were talked about being beat for hours with batons. They

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Speaker 4: would play loud music in their cells, so loud that

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Speaker 4: they couldn't think. They were forced to kneel for twenty

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Speaker 4: four hours at a time. They were in rooms that

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Speaker 4: were so hot they couldn't even breathe, And there were

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Speaker 4: even reports of IDF throwing stun grenades into the cells,

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Speaker 4: just tossing grenades into these cells to torture them. And

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Speaker 4: so imagine if you are someone who hasn't eaten in

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Speaker 4: two or three days, and you make this trek through

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Speaker 4: this long, dangerous path waiting for food desperately. People are

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Speaker 4: being shot around you, and then instead of getting any food,

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Speaker 4: you're kidnapped and tortured for weeks. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 4: know how anyone physically could survive something like that. Now

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Speaker 4: here we've got go for Emily.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, no, I was saying, the momentum on this

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Speaker 3: is shifting now. Amy Klobatar is obviously not a Republican,

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Speaker 3: but she is somebody who just a couple of weeks

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Speaker 3: ago was in that photo op with Benjamin Netanna, who

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Speaker 3: wasn't she Griffin and I got that too. Yeah, here

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Speaker 3: you have her. This is a quote from her yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Let me play a little bit of it.

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Speaker 5: As one pediatric doctor, the leader of the ward at

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Speaker 5: Nasser Hospital in southern Gaza, said there is no one

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Speaker 5: in Gaza now outside the scope of famine, not even myself.

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Speaker 5: This is the pediatrician.

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Speaker 3: So Clobatar goes on to say, a cute nutrician. Malnutrition

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Speaker 3: is rising. Hundreds of pastings have been killed in recent

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Speaker 3: weeks while seeking food, most in the vicinity of Gaza

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Speaker 3: Humanitarian Foundation distribution sites and others on the routes of

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Speaker 3: aid convoys. This is simply an acceptable and Griffin, actually,

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Speaker 3: the implication of what Aviv Retiger and Immi Klobachar are

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Speaker 3: doing here is that they were wrong. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 3: sure have you I mean have youv has actually been

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01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 3: talking about this a little bit longer than some other

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Speaker 3: people if you were listening closely, but I mean before

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Speaker 3: saying that everything else was disinformation, which is he's saying now,

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Speaker 3: of course there's there's some disinformation. There's some misinformation of course,

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01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 3: because this is political and that's what happens.

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Speaker 4: And guess what, there's no reporters allowed in. There'd be

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01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 4: a lot more of the information type if they actually

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01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 4: let reporters in. But we're hirt, we're forced to just

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01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,919
Speaker 4: hear from on the ground reports from journalists in Gaza

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01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 4: and whatever horror show videos we get on the side

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Speaker 4: of the GHF.

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Speaker 3: But I do think that this is an implication that

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01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 3: people were wrong to say this is your you are

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01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 3: anti Semitic, or you are slam entering Israel, if you're

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01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 3: saying that they would do this, because that was actually

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Speaker 3: part of the defense, right that Israel is a Western,

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Speaker 3: civilized democracy that does not treat civilians this way, and

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Speaker 3: that is what you know the I feel like that's

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Speaker 3: actually been a sort of cornerstone of the defense. And

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Speaker 3: if you now say, but that's why, Griffin, then I

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Speaker 3: was hoping that you could explain some of this to

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01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 3: the audience because you follow this so closely. That's why

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01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:36,719
Speaker 3: Now the line is basically, hey, it's the un Ryan

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Speaker 3: has a good job site.

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Speaker 4: So so yeah, Ryan did a great job with this one.

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01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 4: So basically now they're saying, oh, it's like not us

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01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 4: that Israel's like, not the people who have been enacting

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01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 4: as siege for months where no aid has gotten in.

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Speaker 4: It's not us doing it. It's actually the U n

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Speaker 4: that are starving the goze. And essentially, through Ryan's reporting here,

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Speaker 4: what they find is that the reason why the UN

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01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 4: isn't bringing trucks in anymore is because every time they

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Speaker 4: bring a truck in, their truck gets shot at by

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Speaker 4: the Gaza humanitarian forces that you know, we're seeing reports

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Speaker 4: of you know, eighty people dead, ninety people dead, one

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Speaker 4: hundred and ten people dead every single day. And so

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Speaker 4: what's happening is UN truck workers are bringing trucks in

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01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 4: through these crossing points and then they're getting lit up.

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Speaker 4: They're sitting targets. They know every day people right outside

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Speaker 4: their truck are being shot. So their lives are like

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01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 4: being put directly in the line, and they literally are

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Speaker 4: The UN is expected right now to put their workers

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01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 4: in front of a firing squad essentially, and so that

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Speaker 4: is why the UN has slowed stuff. I mean, nothing

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01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 4: has been more destructive in the last three months than

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01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 4: this Gaza humanitarian and foundation thing. I mean, it's been

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01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 4: a explicit, I mean just kind of out and out open,

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01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 4: just killing field. And you know these people like Barry,

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01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 4: like Aviv, like all the other Hizbaris, and the Democrats too,

1446
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 4: like Klobuchar, who are all saying this now when honestly,

1447
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 4: it's fucking too late for a lot of these people.

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01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:23,600
Speaker 4: A lot of these people are going to starve to

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Speaker 4: death in the next couple of days, and even getting

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01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 4: food might not be enough to save them at this

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Speaker 4: stage of malnutrition. They these people all smeared, Unra smeared,

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Speaker 4: all the other AID mechanisms that were getting food into

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Speaker 4: here that were doing it because they have processes that

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Speaker 4: actually work. But guess what happened. Unra's Hamas or the

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01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,759
Speaker 4: world's central kitchen is just going to get their cars

1456
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 4: triple tapped by IDF drone strikes. So and all of

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Speaker 4: that was actually okay and blood libel to report on,

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01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 4: according to these voices from before, it was anti semitic

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Speaker 4: to report on this stuff before.

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Speaker 3: Well, and yeah, so let's take a look. This is

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Speaker 3: a point that's actually being made sort of implicitly here

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Speaker 3: by Barack Revide of Hexios, who says Israel will now

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Speaker 3: allow Arab countries to resume the air drops of food

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Speaker 3: into Gaza. This is a step that hasn't happened for

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Speaker 3: many months. It happened last year when the humanitarian situation

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Speaker 3: was extremely dire. Now here's the key line. And this

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Speaker 3: is just new reporting this morning, he says. At the

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Speaker 3: same time, Israeli officials continue to claim there is no

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Speaker 3: starvation in Gaza.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I just you know, obviously Israel is what

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Speaker 4: seemingly in not just a pr but a cultural sort

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Speaker 4: of death spiral with this stuff. I mean, and I

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Speaker 4: guess I would just have to say to anyone who

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Speaker 4: is still not pro Israel is a really big umbrella.

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Speaker 4: But people who if you care about Israel, if you

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01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:01,879
Speaker 4: care about Jewish people all around the world world being safe,

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01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 4: and and and and if you care about this rise

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01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 4: of anti Semitism sentiments, then moments like this are making

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01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 4: Jewish people around the world incredibly less safe and making

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01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 4: this future of the state of Israel greatly in question,

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01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 4: because you can't starve hundreds of thousands of people to

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Speaker 4: death and not have it backlash and come back to you.

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01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 4: So this these messages from from these people who helped

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Speaker 4: and allowed and created cover for Israel to create the

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Speaker 4: situation they're just trying to cover their asses right now.

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01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 4: But for you know, normal people, non commentators, people that

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01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 4: really care about this, that care about Jewish safety, this

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01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 4: has to stop. This has to stop now, or you're

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01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 4: putting just the future of you and other Jewish people

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01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 4: like and A in a great danger. And I just

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01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 4: think that it it's really it's really really scary, and

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01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 4: it has it has to stop. But there just seems

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01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 4: to be no line other than well, we're gonna get

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01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 4: some food in and then we're gonna keep bombing them again.

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Speaker 4: It's like, we can't bomb kids on an empty stomach.

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Speaker 4: We can bomb them on a full stomach, which was

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Speaker 4: the de facto position before the siege that started three

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Speaker 4: or four months ago. It was like, well, we're feeding them,

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Speaker 4: but we're still gonna keep bombing them. Every single day.

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Speaker 4: The bombs have continued. The food is gone, and it's

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Speaker 4: it's hell on earth, and it stains the Israel and

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Speaker 4: it stains the US, and it's made the whole world

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Speaker 4: unsafe because the sanctity of life itself is at risk.

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Speaker 4: The idea that we care about human life and that

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Speaker 4: the human life is precious and matters, all of that

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Speaker 4: is being thrown out the window, and that makes not

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Speaker 4: just Jewish people but everyone unsafe.

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Speaker 3: Well to your point about Israel, it punctures what Israel

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Speaker 3: sees as it's I think it that's the credibility of

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Speaker 3: Israel's claim to being a important bedrock of Western civilization

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Speaker 3: in the Middle East, which is used to convince Western allies,

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Speaker 3: including the United States heavily, the United States, that they

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Speaker 3: are the bulwark against you know, all kinds of awful, inhumane,

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Speaker 3: barbarous behavior in the Middle East. This is something that

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Speaker 3: really if that's an important kind of founding myth to

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Speaker 3: the nation of Israel, and it's an important part of

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Speaker 3: the politics of the foreign policy. The credibility of that

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Speaker 3: is it's not at risk. It's gone when you see

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Speaker 3: this happening.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, it's been two years of horror show,

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Speaker 4: but we are at a new low. And I just

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Speaker 4: think that people need to protest, get back out into

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Speaker 4: the streets and let any and you know, and hold

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Speaker 4: anyone that had anything to do with this in American

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Speaker 4: politics accountable and essentially, you know, just make sure this

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Speaker 4: never can happen again to anyone else, like actually really

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Speaker 4: never again.

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Speaker 3: So yes, So I was gonna say, Griffin, we have

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Speaker 3: some more political updates on this, so France recognizing Palcidian

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Speaker 3: state and the ceasefire talks basically ending, and I think

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Speaker 3: we should move to the paywall section of the show

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Speaker 3: the second half of the show and where we'll cover that.

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Speaker 3: We will then Injex some levity to the best we

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Speaker 3: possibly can into everyone's weekend with some reactions to longer

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Speaker 3: South Park clips, and then we have a clip of

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Speaker 3: Joe Rogan talking about Hunter Biden that you are definitely

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Speaker 3: not going to want to miss because it's interesting in

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Speaker 3: all kinds of different ways. So again to see the

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Speaker 3: rest of the episode, details on the ceasefire and then

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Speaker 3: of course Rogan on Hunter Biden. Go ahead and head

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Speaker 3: over to Breakingpoints dot com, get a premium subscription, and

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Speaker 3: we'll see you over there.