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Speaker 1: if you will sit a spell as we get you

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Speaker 1: ready for a big Easter Sunday.

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Speaker 2: We're in the middle of Passover. However you celebrate, if

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Speaker 2: you celebrate, if it's just the Hey, we got up

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Speaker 2: and we got another shot to go one and oh today,

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Speaker 2: we appreciate you giving us a few minutes from your

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Speaker 2: time as part of the extended family here Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Blessed to be with you once again. I'm Mike Carbon

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Speaker 2: alongside me Jared Smith in the big chair today live

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Speaker 2: from Las Vegas. We've had an opportunity to do a

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Speaker 2: couple of runs here on the network as Jared's filled

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Speaker 2: in from my guy Jason Smith in the seven to

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Speaker 2: eleven window Monday through Friday. Jared, it's a blessed day.

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Speaker 2: I know you're gonna get some miles in early before

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Speaker 2: it became one hundred and thirty seven degrees and before

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Speaker 2: the full Sporting slate took over.

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Speaker 3: What's going on, buddy, Happy eas to everyone, Happy passover.

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Speaker 4: I did get my miles in this morning.

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Speaker 3: I got a ten kN sixty nine minutes flat, and

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Speaker 3: it's actually nice. It's a nice day. I was thinking

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Speaker 3: about running outside. But yeah, I actually like people think

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Speaker 3: I'm crazy. I don't mind running on the treadmill because

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Speaker 3: I get I know exactly what my time is and

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Speaker 3: it's not like crazy hills and everything.

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Speaker 4: But it was a tough It was a long road

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Speaker 4: this morning. It was tough.

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Speaker 2: Some days it's tougher than other of course, right we

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Speaker 2: got to try to find our motivations for whatever we're

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Speaker 2: doing work. Family is not always easy. Extended family, your

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Speaker 2: friends may be driving your nuts, whatever the case is.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully for the next two hours we can find a

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Speaker 2: little piece levity for you. We got some great stories,

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Speaker 2: some rebirths, cautionary tale using the term resurrection. But the

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Speaker 2: NBA has got a couple of stars that are front

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Speaker 2: and center. Later on today, we've got the Joe Adell

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Speaker 2: hat trick, which is just odd. Between that and there

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Speaker 2: was another statistical anomaly that occurred in Major League Baseball yesterday,

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Speaker 2: we'll get into that some of the abs early returns again,

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Speaker 2: with Jared being in Las veg I guess maybe we

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Speaker 2: starting to mean for game to game processing. But we'd

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Speaker 2: be remiss if we didn't start off as the NCAA

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Speaker 2: Men's Final is set after what was a thumping right,

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Speaker 2: we got a close game early? Was it pretty?

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Speaker 2: But as long as it's close ish late, sign me up,

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Speaker 2: because well we know how easily it can go the

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Speaker 2: other way, Jared. But the nightcap, the Michigan Wolverines just

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Speaker 2: came out and absolutely stomped our beloved companion Arnie Spaniards

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Speaker 2: Arizona Wildcats to where that game was. To say not

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Speaker 2: pretty would be me being kind and showing, you know,

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Speaker 2: the pat on the back, good job, good effort, you know,

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Speaker 2: like that kid in Miami all those years ago as

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Speaker 2: people were going up the tunnel. But that's kind of

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Speaker 2: what we got as they win in a massive fashion,

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Speaker 2: ninety one seventy three, another beatdown. We're watching them score

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Speaker 2: ninety points in game, even though you're missing one of

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Speaker 2: I'm not listening to the trainer, I'm not listening to mom.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting back out on the court because this is

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Speaker 2: You know, you got to keep getting after it even

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Speaker 2: if you're not one hundred percent. Was it necessarily the

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Speaker 2: smartest thing for Lindenbourg to get out there? Yeah, maybe not,

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Speaker 2: but fourteen minutes he didn't have to do a whole

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess we'll start with Yukon at one point

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Speaker 3: Incredible, And we talked about this on Saturday Morning Show.

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Speaker 3: We said it felt very team of destiny vibes. Where

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Speaker 3: down to. The nightcap was a very different game Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Both teams were goliaths in my opinion, but Arizona brought

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Speaker 3: Like it just they just didn't have their level right.

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Speaker 4: I think they're better coached.

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Speaker 3: Tommy Lloyd brought or excuse me, Dusty May brought out

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Speaker 3: the basketball who to the Big House this week to

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Speaker 4: I put Dusty May one. Hurley too, and.

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Speaker 2: I said the backdrop of the Mount rushmore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I really And the reason is is because

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Speaker 4: But that's not the take away from his coaching ability.

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Speaker 3: I think those guys are one A, one B and

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Speaker 3: And Lloyd, but Hurley and May have been there before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just a very very different style and approach. But

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Speaker 2: very interesting, you know, these personalities, uh and how much

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Speaker 4: Are you a fan?

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Speaker 3: Because I like Hurley as like a man like coach,

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Speaker 3: But sometimes I think it's two extreme, like we go

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's like too fiery, like I'd want

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Speaker 2: And I think that's just very much it. Right, There's

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Speaker 2: And that goes for anybody in any workspace, but certainly

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Speaker 2: in the coaching environment. You can't stay at that level

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Speaker 2: early was I had coaches that were the all right,

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Speaker 2: I ran the spectrum and clearly.

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Speaker 3: The what did you respond to better because I didn't

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Speaker 3: But when I was younger, I was a little softer.

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Speaker 2: Well, but that's it, right, When you're younger, it's like

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Speaker 2: But it's not like you were complaining to mom and

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Speaker 2: And I'm that leprechaun like character that I play on

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Speaker 2: in that ten seed right now at a robust thirty

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Speaker 2: six and forty one, but they are going to be

436
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 2: part of the play ins. So still some meaningful basketball

437
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 2: to a point to be played here for Curry and

438
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 2: the Warriors. So good to get him back on a

439
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 2: big Sunday affair.

440
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Speaker 4: So let me get this straight.

441
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Speaker 3: There are people out there, and I don't follow the

442
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 3: NBA as closely with the in the weeds, you know,

443
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 3: drama te behind the scenes as as maybe some others do.

444
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously I'm aware of the big stories that

445
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 3: take place, and I knew he was coming back, But

446
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 3: there are people out there in the community, the NBA

447
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 3: communities that feel he shouldn't come back because the season

448
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Speaker 3: is lost.

449
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Speaker 2: Is that well, that that's the thing right where you're

450
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Speaker 2: at and your injury continue him and what the the

451
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Speaker 2: long path is and injuries at this point, are you

452
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Speaker 2: a contender? You're riding out the string whatever. I mean,

453
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 2: You're in the playoffs comfortably right because Memphis in.

454
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Speaker 4: The game from what it looks like.

455
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Speaker 3: Right, where are you on this on this debate? Do

456
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Speaker 3: you think he should just pack it in?

457
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Speaker 2: No, I'm always the if you're feeling that you can

458
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: play and you know the the old lottery picks, be

459
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Speaker 2: darned family, right.

460
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 4: On the play to win the game.

461
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Speaker 2: Edwards, there you are nicely done.

462
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Speaker 4: That is the only and and that's where I was

463
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Speaker 4: going with my line.

464
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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you very much Chris Purfett, our trusted audio guru,

465
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Speaker 3: dropping that one, because that is the only thing that

466
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Speaker 3: matters in sports. Sometimes we lose the plot in sports

467
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 3: analytics and narratives and clickbait and rage bait, we lose

468
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 3: the plot in sports.

469
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Speaker 4: It's to play and win the game. That is the plot.

470
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Speaker 3: That is why you stand back in your garage or

471
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 3: in your backyard and you, you know, take all those

472
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 3: practice shots and you work on your your your stroke,

473
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 3: and you work on your form for hours as a kid.

474
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Speaker 3: Not so when you're healthy to sit on the bench

475
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Speaker 3: and watch you play to win the game. And I

476
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 3: know there is business involved, I understand that, but at

477
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 3: our core as human beings, we want to watch people

478
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Speaker 3: play at the highest level. That is why we buy

479
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Speaker 3: tickets and watch. So like anyone out there who's like, Eh,

480
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 3: Curry should just pack it in and there's nothing to

481
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 3: play for, get lost. That is an insane narrative to me.

482
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Speaker 3: You play to win the game, period, end of story.

483
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean we had the same kind concerned slash

484
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Speaker 2: conversation what is it six weeks ago or thereabouts, wondering

485
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: about whether Jason Tatum was going to come back and play,

486
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Speaker 2: and here he is, missus games here and there. But

487
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: overall they're looking at it as Wow, we got our

488
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Speaker 2: guy back for the second half of the season, i e.

489
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Speaker 2: When it counts the playoffs. And now Boston's one of

490
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Speaker 2: those few teams that you mentioned in the little Hey,

491
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Speaker 2: they can be champions bubble because the rest of the

492
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: league is doing everything they can to amass lottery tickets,

493
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 2: ping pong balls. Well, it's just a stupid thing. They're

494
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Speaker 2: in the NBA, and we watch how improbable incredible it is. Hey,

495
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 2: it grows, goes Chicago, Lebron James goes to Cleveland Cooper

496
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 2: Flag right after what some have argued is going to

497
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Speaker 2: prove to be the worst trade in NBA history one

498
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Speaker 2: point eight percent. There he is in Dallas, but all

499
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Speaker 2: of that to say the guy that you know stirred

500
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Speaker 2: the drink there, Luka dancts now injured. We can talk

501
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: about the debates of you know, appealing to be considered

502
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: for all NBA purposes. I've long said this in my

503
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: stance stands strong, just like when Bill Nyi and Harry

504
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 2: Potter says your ministry remains strong. That's what I'm saying.

505
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Speaker 2: This is stay of the course here, Jared. When it

506
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: comes back to the idea of at no point should

507
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Speaker 2: an award people are voting on decide whether you make

508
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Speaker 2: another fifty million dollars, that's just the most asinine thing

509
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Speaker 2: in the world to me. But either way, that's the

510
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Speaker 2: battle MVP considerations and all nbas. For Luca, He's wins

511
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Speaker 2: the scoring title because he's played in at least fifty

512
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Speaker 2: eight games.

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Speaker 3: So you know, why is the scoring title different than

514
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Speaker 3: the other threshold?

515
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Speaker 2: Has it bothered Swoop?

516
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that doesn't make sense to me. I think the pushback.

517
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Speaker 3: I understand why there's a minimum for certain awards and

518
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Speaker 3: things like that, but I think that there should be

519
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Speaker 3: some kind of addendum or amendment for minutes played because

520
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Speaker 3: I do think minutes also matter. I don't think they

521
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 3: should be like binary. I think we should maybe have

522
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Speaker 3: if a guy can't qualify for the games, if he

523
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Speaker 3: can qualify for the minutes, and he started like ninety

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Speaker 3: five percent or something of the games available with certain

525
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Speaker 3: aount minutes. Like again, I'm not a math or science

526
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Speaker 3: guy when it comes to this kind of stuff, but

527
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Speaker 3: I think there's a way to kind of make exceptions

528
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Speaker 3: for players like Lebron or Luca that just play, you know,

529
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Speaker 3: an insane amount of minutes, but maybe get hurt or

530
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Speaker 3: miss games for other circumstances like legitimately hurt. I just

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Speaker 3: I think the sixty five games, I do think we're

532
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 3: going to get some reform on that at some point.

533
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it'll be curious to see how that gets administrated,

534
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: and certainly when we talk about MVP odds, and we

535
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 2: can do a little more on that as we go.

536
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: We had a great showdown between Jokich and Wemby yesterday.

537
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: I mean Wemby kind of as brilliant as he's been

538
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: in his twenty nine thirty minutes a game. The fact

539
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: that he sat out the second night of a back

540
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,239
Speaker 2: to back against you know, a good team the other

541
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 2: day really kind of rubbed me the wrong way. You know,

542
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: we're talking about elder statesman's and load management whatever else. Like, No, no,

543
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: you're perfectly fine to go and shellac the Bulls. But

544
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: you play a Clippers team, which we can argue about

545
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 2: how good, bad or ugly they are on a night

546
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: to night basis, but at least in theory, a team

547
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 2: that's much better than the drek you've been playing. You

548
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: take that one off and your team still goes and

549
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: wins handling, So there's something to be said that. But

550
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 2: the other guy that's got to rise up now is

551
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 2: Lebron James because he's got nobody else left with him, right.

552
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 2: Lucas hurt, Austin Reeves after a ad MRI that they

553
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: had to redo, is now going to miss extended time.

554
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: Currently in the third seed, can drop all the way

555
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Speaker 2: to what fifth, maybe even well, no fifth, because I

556
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: don't think there's enough games from Minnesota to catch them necessarily.

557
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: But I mean, this is pretty crazy here down the

558
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: stretch talking about how contested it all is. But forty

559
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: eight hours from hell for the Los Angeles Lakers, between

560
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: the Luca pull up and hamstring injury and then losing

561
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Speaker 2: Austin Reeves shortly thereafter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that okay s game was was rough, But I

563
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 3: do think it is kind of the okay See Invitational

564
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 3: in the West this year. I mean, it's just it's

565
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 3: gonna be tough to beat them in a seven game series.

566
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Speaker 2: Guys, Well, it was fun because it was cute, right,

567
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: because they're just going about their business and playing. And

568
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: we talked a little bit of MVP talk when you

569
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Speaker 2: and I got together earlier in the week and SGA

570
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: going I just let my game play, And we've been

571
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: talking a lot about Luca and his six hundred points

572
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: in March and all of these other things, and the

573
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Speaker 2: Lakers and their run and the Thunder essentially just said

574
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Speaker 2: hold my beer.

575
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Speaker 4: And they play him again in a couple of days.

576
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think it's gonna be a tough sled,

577
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: a tough a tough ask for any team to win

578
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: four out of seven.

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Speaker 2: So Lebron, what is he twenty five and I have

580
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: for twenty six today for his points?

581
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Speaker 4: Let's take a look. I didn't look at the points

582
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Speaker 4: prop today, but.

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Speaker 2: They aren't playing Dallas, so it's a I mean, we

584
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: at least get to see Cooper flag against Lebron. That's true.

585
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Speaker 2: Lebron basically asked to become Lebron of ten years ago.

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Speaker 3: Maybe also in these situations, and I've been watching Lebron

587
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: a very long time, he also can become a distributor

588
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: at times in these moments.

589
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Speaker 4: So nobody to distribute to.

590
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 3: I know, But what do you think, like if you're

591
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Speaker 3: playing like and this is this is this goes back

592
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Speaker 3: to last night?

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00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 4: Right, and.

594
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 3: I thought Dusty May is a really good coach. And

595
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 3: Arizona's numbers all said they are very hesitant to shoot three.

596
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: They're a team that likes to pack it inside and

597
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: don't like to shoot a lot of threes. That's what

598
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Speaker 3: they're That's what their numbers say. So what a Dusty

599
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Speaker 3: May do? He packed it inside the paint and he

600
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: made Arizona shoot threes and they didn't shoot threes. So

601
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Speaker 3: Jason Kid's a pretty good coach, right, we think we

602
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Speaker 3: think he's a pretty good coach. I think we can

603
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 3: all reasonable. Mine's gonna agree that he's pretty sharp. You

604
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Speaker 3: know that Lebron's the only guy, So what do you think.

605
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Speaker 4: You're gonna do?

606
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Speaker 3: You're gonna force the ball out of his hands? Like

607
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: I mean, like I'm not and I'm not a basketball coach.

608
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Speaker 3: It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

609
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: So that's what I would do, and so and then

610
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Speaker 3: that particular case, the points problem might not be your

611
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Speaker 3: best wager.

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Speaker 6: Today.

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Speaker 2: Lakers opened at six and a half uh the favorite

614
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Speaker 2: currently at minus one and a half. As we rolled through,

615
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Speaker 2: we had a couple of really fun things coming out

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Speaker 2: of Major League Baseball. You gotta hear the audio because

617
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Speaker 2: the incredulity really takes the cake. But first, let's kick

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Speaker 2: it over to the news desk, fully armed with a

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Speaker 2: team to support him in any verbal attack I may

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Speaker 2: launch on him. It's our guy, Isaac Loewany Island, Hello.

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Speaker 8: Mike and Jared, and our matchups set in the National

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Speaker 8: Championship game is on Saturday night. Michigan beat Arizona ninety

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Speaker 8: one seventy three. Before that, Yukon topped Illinois seventy one

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Speaker 8: sixty two, So it'll be Michigan against Yukon for the

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Speaker 8: title tomorrow night. Yukon head coach Danny Hurley said a

626
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Speaker 8: short time ago, guys, that Husky's junior guards Solo Ball

627
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 8: sprain his left foot in the win over Illinois and

628
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Speaker 8: will not practice today. Ball is currently in a walking boot.

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Speaker 8: He's Yukon's third leading scorer on the season at thirteen points.

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Speaker 8: A game coming up at three point thirty Eastern time,

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Speaker 8: it'll be the women's National Championship game between South Carolina

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Speaker 8: and UCLA Baseball. Saturday night, Joe Adell of the Angels

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Speaker 8: robbed the Seattle Mariners of three separate home runs at

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Speaker 8: a one nothing victory, and he saved the best for last.

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Speaker 6: JP Crawford into the corner.

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Speaker 4: And there's no right shoot down.

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Speaker 1: It's having the night of his life.

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Speaker 4: Who went into the crowd and just run? It's third

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Speaker 4: hold Rome.

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Speaker 8: Los Angeles Dodgers star Mookie Bets meanwhile diagnosed with the

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Speaker 8: right oblique strain and will be placed on the ten

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Speaker 8: day injured list. Their game at Washington today has been

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Speaker 8: delayed due to weather. Finally, Mike and Jared in the

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Speaker 8: National Hockey League on Saturday night, Jared's Los Vegas Golden

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Speaker 8: Knights won at Edmonton five to one, but the game

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Speaker 8: was more memorable for what was going on off the

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Speaker 8: ice at Rogers' Place in Edmonton, as detailed on Hockey

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Speaker 8: Night in Canada Breaking News.

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Speaker 9: We have word that someone has gone into labor here tonight.

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Speaker 9: There's a baby being born on the seventh floor at

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Speaker 9: Rogers Place as we speak, So someone's going to have

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Speaker 9: a great story to tell. It would be nice to

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Speaker 9: have the mother join us in after hours to describe

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Speaker 9: what's happened, but that.

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Speaker 6: Could be asking a bit much.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you think those are all the details we have

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Speaker 8: as of now, but some people do anything to avoid

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Speaker 8: those ticketmaster fees.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, guys, I have two questions. First about

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Speaker 3: the hockey Why would you go to a hockey game

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Speaker 3: if you're that close to giving birth. That seems like

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Speaker 3: a very odd decision. Second, with the baseball home run,

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Speaker 3: I saw him go into the stands. I was under

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Speaker 3: the impression that if you catch a ball and go

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Speaker 3: into the stands, it's a home run because the ball's

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Speaker 3: in the stands.

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Speaker 4: Am I wrong on that rule?

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Speaker 8: No, that that's actually a good point that's been discussed

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Speaker 8: on social media today. So apparently the rule is if

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Speaker 8: you first make contact with the ball while part of

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Speaker 8: your body is in the field of play, it's an out.

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Speaker 8: But you can't jump over the fence completely and catch

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Speaker 8: the ball thereage Oh yeah, unless on stilts, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I know. I mean you can do that. You can

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Speaker 2: look at them.

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Speaker 4: Sought the ball while still feet on the ground and

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Speaker 4: then tumbled into the stands, and that's why I was

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Speaker 4: an out. Yeah, that's how I'm interpreting.

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Speaker 8: My understanding is as long as your whole body is

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Speaker 8: not over the defence in the stands when you catch

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Speaker 8: the ball, it can be considered.

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Speaker 2: An interesting part of the field to play.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't on Seattle money line or anything on them

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Speaker 3: to win the aos.

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Speaker 2: That's why I was curious psychologically that one will stay

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Speaker 2: with you until the final days.

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Speaker 4: What a weird story in Edmonton. Good stuff?

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Speaker 2: Oh that I mean, that's great though, But I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: we all know things can escalate quickly. I had a

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Speaker 2: daughter that decided to come into the world almost what

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Speaker 2: six weeks early.

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Speaker 4: They're hardcore about their hockey up there in Canada.

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Speaker 2: I guess you could have felt great and then got

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Speaker 2: it and that's it, I'll tell you. And maybe you

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Speaker 2: sho didn't like the cut of someone's jib in that

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Speaker 2: section and got got her Dan Dan Drup, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Thanks alough at Isaac Lowan Crown check out everything He's

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Speaker 2: got going to Angel City, uh, and the love fest

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Speaker 2: of Mike McDaniel and Jim Harbaugh. As we continue, it's

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Speaker 2: Jared Smith at Jared Smith Bets and me Mike Harman

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Speaker 2: at Swollen Dome. We'll stay with that Major League Baseball

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Speaker 2: story because there were two statistical just a non is

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Speaker 2: Adele's game, can we argue it's the greatest thing we've

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Speaker 2: ever seen. The other is someone stole a base It's

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Speaker 2: been a minute since he's done that, which means we

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Speaker 2: can all do something great today. Let's get after it.

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Speaker 2: Next on Fox.

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Speaker 6: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio. Fox Sports Sunday. Almost

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Speaker 2: said that other show that I do, Yeah, that's the

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Speaker 2: Jason Smith Show with me Mike Carmon during the week

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Speaker 2: seven to eleven Pacific. But here we're just getting you

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Speaker 2: going on a big Sunday out and about to Grandma's house,

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Speaker 2: as the promo says, or just kind of hunkering down

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Speaker 2: with a big date of baseball basketball. We've got some

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Speaker 2: international soccer on the screen. We got the three point

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Speaker 2: title from the men's side. We can bet on that too.

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Speaker 2: I Mean, there's so much going on, but if you

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Speaker 2: off the air. Jared Smith at Jared Smith bets he

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Speaker 2: here him as part of Countdown with Brian No and

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Speaker 2: Rich Hornberger on Saturdays with me in doing more work

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Speaker 2: here on the networking with me this morning. Blessed to

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Speaker 2: have him in as we roll into a big sports Sunday,

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Speaker 2: and you know we played it with with Ilo. He

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Speaker 2: played the hat third of the hat trick from Joe Adell,

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Speaker 2: a guy who seems like he should be about forty

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Speaker 2: five years old, because you know, when you collect trading cards,

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Speaker 2: prospect cards come up really fast. He is only twenty six,

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Speaker 2: but he's seemingly been in and around the major league

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Speaker 2: world for quite a while. Here Jared and making noise

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Speaker 2: with his bat last year at thirty seven home run

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Speaker 2: ninety eight RBI. But yesterday and we've got a little

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Speaker 2: montage here that I that I like to play before

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Speaker 2: we jump into this bigger of Joe Adele yesterday on display,

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Speaker 2: not one, not two, but three times the charm.

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Speaker 4: No balls at one swife. There's a drive out to

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Speaker 4: light from Raleigh. Hodel's back near the wall. He leaps

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Speaker 4: so down he has a track to right. Adele is back,

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Speaker 4: he's at the wall. He leaps up.

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Speaker 10: He got another one.

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Speaker 1: Flood to night.

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Speaker 6: Believe there's claw from the fly bat.

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Speaker 2: Away, tore the carter.

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Speaker 4: It's joe ah Deell again near the floppit three.

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Speaker 6: Touch it again.

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Speaker 4: He fell into the crowd, so it's a home run.

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Speaker 4: They called him out.

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Speaker 1: He did it.

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Speaker 2: Again, so you know, rough day for the announcers trying

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Speaker 2: to go through it. The first one right, because he

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Speaker 2: sold it like he absolutely no sold like if someone

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Speaker 2: put their finishing move on with a WWE match and

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Speaker 2: then held up the ball and threw it back into

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Speaker 2: the fields.

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Speaker 10: Oh no, he caught it. It was you know, it's

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Speaker 10: above the league. Remember the scene in Major League. There

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Speaker 10: you go, and he put the ball through like that

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Speaker 10: cardboard thing thing out.

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Speaker 2: Nicely done, Ye had Danny Danny Roe or I'm sorry

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Speaker 2: it was Isaac who hit one through the net in

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Speaker 2: Ted Lasso as well, those kind of things where you

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Speaker 2: got to do that review. So a bit of fooling folks.

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Speaker 2: But like I was thinking about it last night as

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Speaker 2: this was going on, and he's taken over the timeline

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Speaker 2: a little bit opposite the NCAA tournaments. Like we see

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Speaker 2: a lot of cool things in sports, right, and Major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball is is rich in its history and numbers.

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Speaker 2: But I've seen perfect games. I've seen dominant pitching performances, right,

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Speaker 2: Carrie Wood in his twenty strikeouts, Elcintara say, and I

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Speaker 2: pitched in front of nobody, but thank you to the

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Speaker 2: fans when he dominated the White Sox, you know, in

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Speaker 2: the opening weekend and all of that stuff. But I

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Speaker 2: look at this and it's it's incredible to me because

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Speaker 2: we're seeing a guy might rob two home runs in

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Speaker 2: a year. This guy had the day of days, seeing

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Speaker 2: the ball well, tracking it well, and the old you know,

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Speaker 2: stick to it kind of notion of I just don't

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Speaker 2: assume it's it's out of reach, which is a good

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Speaker 2: lesson in life.

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Speaker 4: So I'll tell a brief story.

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Speaker 3: So when I graduated at Penn State in two thousand

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Speaker 3: and eight, my first job out of college, I moved

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Speaker 3: to Atlantic City and I got an internship at one

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Speaker 3: of the radio stations down in Atlantic City, and I

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Speaker 3: met down there the play by play announcer of the

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Speaker 3: Atlantic City Surf played in the canam League, and that

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Speaker 3: was my first gig out of college really where I

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Speaker 3: was paid to help him call Atlantic City Surf games.

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Speaker 3: And then I went on to call games for the

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Speaker 3: Trent and Thunder after that. You know, double a affility

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Speaker 3: to the Yankees. So I worked in minor league baseball

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Speaker 3: for the first two years basically after college, and I

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Speaker 3: learned very quickly that every day you go to the ballpark,

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Speaker 3: you see something you've never seen before. And that's that's

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Speaker 3: really the only way that I can explain baseball on

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Speaker 3: a daily basis. When you watch it every single day,

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Speaker 3: you will see something every single day that you have

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Speaker 3: never seen before. And that was what we saw last

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Speaker 3: night with Jodell Well.

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Speaker 2: We also saw gian Carlos Stanton steal a base, something

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Speaker 2: he has not done.

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Speaker 4: And he looks very sprightly.

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Speaker 2: Well, eventually you realize carrying the extra weight is probably

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Speaker 2: uh maybe robbing you of what could have been a

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame run.

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Speaker 4: Maybe your fitness and health matters.

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Speaker 2: People, Well you know what what but yeah, see there

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Speaker 2: it goes. He got preachy on me, telling me I

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Speaker 2: needed to do his ten miles. Ah, He's Jared Smith,

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Speaker 2: help by Carvin Abs System and more Major League Baseball

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Speaker 2: next here on Fox.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio Green Eggs and

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Speaker 1: welcome in hour two of the program.

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Speaker 2: As we roll on here a beautiful Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Happy Easter pass over to those who commemorate, cell lebrate

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Speaker 2: everybody else, whatever you've got going on in your lives,

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Speaker 2: We're glad you're with us for a few minutes here

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Speaker 2: this morning early afternoon. Go out and make it, make

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Speaker 2: it a masterpiece, as it were, Go one and know today.

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Speaker 2: That's the mantra. As we roll on at Swalling Home,

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Speaker 2: where you find me at Jared Smith Bets. Where you

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Speaker 2: find my partner today, Jared Smith, as he gets ready

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Speaker 2: for a full day of sporting action and he's already

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Speaker 2: gotten his big workout in so now he can gluttonize

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Speaker 2: like the rest of us.

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Speaker 4: Rot as they say, there's nothing real.

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Speaker 2: Usually what I do.

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Speaker 4: Listen, I'm all about balance.

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Speaker 3: I'll run six miles and then I'll sit around all

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Speaker 3: day and watch sports for twelve hours.

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Speaker 4: Balance.

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Speaker 2: Look, we're always looking to achieve balance, As Arnold Schwarzenegger

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Speaker 2: said in the famous nineteen seventy seven documentary Pumping Iron.

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Speaker 2: Always work for balance and definition.

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Speaker 4: Balance. Meanwhile, my dog doesn't have balance. He just rots.

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Speaker 3: He's currently passed out on his little couch in my office.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's a good boy.

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Speaker 4: Oh, he's a good boy.

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Speaker 2: And at the end of the day that is as loyal,

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Speaker 2: a true and trusted soul depends on you, but knows

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Speaker 2: you've got him. Like it's it's the perfect thing.

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Speaker 6: It really is.

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Speaker 2: There's like there should be books and movies about such things.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, some kind of good boy, is there?

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Speaker 6: Is?

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Speaker 3: There is there a cliche where they say that they're

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Speaker 3: a man's best friend.

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Speaker 2: I think I might have heard that somewhere.

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Speaker 4: I heard that one before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not you're not traversing new ground there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's true.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. Whether it's hanging out with the pets,

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Speaker 2: getting ready for a full slate of sporting action, we

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Speaker 2: talked a little bit Lebron James uh playing without Luka,

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Speaker 2: Doncic and Austin Reeves here to close out the campaign,

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00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: The return of Steph Curry. All of those in the backdrop,

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Speaker 2: we've got the National title game uh tomorrow night. We'll

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Speaker 2: get deeper into that matchup more from the Danny Hurley

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Speaker 2: side of things. I think from the the matchup side

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Speaker 2: of it, it's the scrappy underdog and that's how Danny

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Speaker 2: Hurley will play it. With the Yukon Husky's decided. What

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Speaker 2: is It's six and a half currently against Michigan, so

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Speaker 2: we'll keep an eye on that. One of the other

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Speaker 2: curious things, you know, to wrap the sporting world in

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Speaker 2: a hug, is you're out there in Las Vegas and

872
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: and certainly day to day, it's about information, finding more

873
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: data points to support a pick right. It's not like

874
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 2: the wild eyed, you know, hair flapping in the breeze,

875
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 2: person coming from out of state that just wants to

876
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 2: get money down may have a little bit of insight,

877
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: but mostly it's a gut that will rule over everything.

878
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: One of the things for Major League Baseball for this

879
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 2: year has been this automated ball and strike system, which

880
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: has caused great consternation and concern. We've seen some big moments.

881
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 2: We talked about CB Buckner the other day and his

882
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: trials behind on plate, later exacerbated by a blown call

883
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: at first base, and then eventually he took a baseball

884
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: to the mask. He has had a week, but he

885
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 2: has become the poster child for the way this can

886
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: go wrong, and certainly for the reputation of umpires. And

887
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: this goes across all sports. Because this weekend, commemorating the

888
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 2: announcement of the Naysmith Basketball Hall of Fame class, one

889
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 2: of the guys going in Joey Crawford. For those of

890
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: a certain age, maybe you WinCE a little bit about

891
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 2: a call that went against your star, Right, your star

892
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 2: wasn't big enough to get the call against a Jordan,

893
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 2: against Akarl Malona or one of the other luminaries along

894
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 2: the way. But he still works for the NBA all

895
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 2: these years later, been retired about a decade and started

896
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: going into the larger perspective of the technological games that

897
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: we've had and what it means. And he brought it

898
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: down to brass tax Jared quote. You're paid to get

899
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: the plays right. You're paid to get them right. So

900
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: we trained referees and they're very very good, gonna make mistakes.

901
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: There are guys who miss a jump shot, coach calls,

902
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: the time out they shouldn't have called. It's all the

903
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: same thing. We've got to watch. You're at the end

904
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: of the game. The key is to not blow that

905
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: whistle and guess you got to know where that had happened,

906
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 2: don't assume that it happened. And we've seen that quite

907
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: a bit again talking about the agonizing over crucial calls

908
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 2: and how you know at different points of your career

909
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 2: you wear it a little bit different. It's like anything.

910
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: I think any job you're in, right when you're first

911
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: new to it, you're in that stressed out period of

912
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: all right, I gotta make sure that every t is crossed,

913
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: every eye is dotted. I've got to play nice sandbox

914
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 2: with everybody, because I have to play nice sandbox. I

915
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: don't want anybody to keep me out of a project,

916
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: keep me out of a meeting, or you know, perception

917
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 2: versus reality of quote unquote holding me down. And then

918
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: if you're at a place long enough, you get comfortable,

919
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 2: and it's not that you're subtly sloppy and you don't care,

920
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: but you're comfortable and who you are and what you've

921
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 2: done and what you contribute to the process. So if

922
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: you're not in on a meeting or a chain of

923
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: calls or whatever, you don't necessarily get, you know, bristle

924
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 2: over such and then you get to the in phase

925
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 2: where things are changing in an organization. Maybe you've got

926
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 2: a different boss, your company gets acquired. People that you've

927
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 2: been teammates with leave, and once again you're on pins

928
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: and needles because you want all the information that you

929
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: can possibly get, so you at least know what you're

930
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 2: dealing with going into the office on a day to

931
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: day basis. So like you have that time continuum, and

932
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 2: he kind of related that to the umpire cycle of

933
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: like early on and then talking about it now when

934
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: you have the advent of so much in terms of gambling,

935
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 2: that things that might have just gone into the ether

936
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 2: of that's too bad now become blown up in a

937
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: whole other way. So it's trying to meeter expectations and

938
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: everything else. I love the challenges. I initially didn't, but

939
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 2: now I love it because you have to understand at

940
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 2: the end of the game, if you screw a play up,

941
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 2: you're going back to the hotel dreading it. I had

942
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 2: a number of those nights and we certainly see it

943
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: when it comes to the ABS because it's their front

944
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 2: and center. And even if it's a margin of inches,

945
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: it's a game of win and loss. Right, it's a

946
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 2: game within a game. At this point.

947
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm fully in favor of it.

948
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: I think the idea and the other you know, news

949
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: making headline about it was when Richie Garcia came out

950
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 3: about the ABS and said it was embarrassing and you know,

951
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 3: you know, guys are going to get humiliated in front

952
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 3: of thirty forty thousand people, And I just don't I

953
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 3: don't really relate to that because I think at the

954
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 3: highest level of high leverage employees, and I use the

955
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 3: dan Orlovski example, if you're a high leverage employee, and

956
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 3: every umpire at a professional level, every referee at a

957
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 3: professional level, is a high leverage employee, you are under

958
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 3: the microscope that comes with the territory pressure is a privilege.

959
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 3: I wish people cared so much about my football opinions

960
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 3: that they would roast me to the level that people

961
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 3: roasted dan Orlovski about his Ty Simpson opinion. And we'll

962
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: see if he's right or wrong. He'll probably be wrong,

963
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 3: but we don't know that for sure, but the point

964
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 3: is if that much attention is being brought forth on

965
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: someone's opinion, and at the end of the day, that's

966
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 3: all referees are paid to do, is to give their opinions, educated,

967
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 3: highly educated opinions on what they're seeing. If their opinion

968
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 3: is that much under the microscope, that is a privilege.

969
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 3: In today's society, most people use social media in other

970
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 3: ways to shout into the ether and nobody gives a damn.

971
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 3: Nobody cares. But if you are one of those fortunate

972
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 3: people that have a high leverage job where thousands and

973
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 3: millions of people care about everything you do, well, then

974
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 3: you are under the microscope to get it right. That

975
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 3: comes with the territory. So now we have a tool

976
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: to assist you in getting it right. I don't see

977
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 3: how this is bad. There is no downside to it.

978
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 3: Besides your feelings might get hurt, but screw your feelings.

979
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 3: You are getting paid a significant amount of money to

980
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 3: get this right. And if you don't get it right,

981
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 3: other people lose money, not just gambling, but human beings

982
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 3: that are paying that are getting paid to do their

983
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 3: job on the field. If they're not getting if you're

984
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 3: not getting your calls right, then they're struggling to do

985
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: their job. So we need to get this right. And

986
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 3: now we have a way, which, by the way, I

987
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 3: think in sports, other than the block charge call, I

988
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: think balls and strikes is the most difficult play to officiate.

989
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 4: It's balls moving at.

990
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 3: A whiskers notice a split second. You got to find

991
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 3: pinpoint accuracy where it landed on the play. Very difficult

992
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 3: to do. So I give them the benefit of the

993
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: doubt a lot when they get things wrong. But now

994
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 3: we have a way to fix it. So I don't

995
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 3: understand how it's bad. There is no scenario where it's

996
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 3: bad other than nostal and this isn't the way it

997
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 3: used to be, and we need the human error in sports.

998
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 4: And blah blah blah blah blah. I'm past that.

999
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 3: I'm past that point where the human error is so

1000
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 3: much a part of sports that we're willing to get

1001
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 3: things wrong in order to sacrifice them.

1002
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's you know, does the evolution of

1003
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: things right? You go back. The NFL's had replay what

1004
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: since ninety nine, We got the NHL going back a decade,

1005
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: the NBA and the coaches challenge over the what since

1006
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen twenty twenty that season, and we get some

1007
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 2: great explanations at the desk, right with smile and with

1008
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 2: a couple of jokes to get you through the explanations

1009
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,479
Speaker 2: of how it was adjudicated. Look, what's a catch? What's

1010
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 2: not a catch? Who actually got the ball at the

1011
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: bottom of a scrum before something terrible and undoored? And

1012
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: since it's a Sunday morning, I'm not even gonna say

1013
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 2: what happens at the bottom of those piles and maybe

1014
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: the football changes hands again. I mean, there's there's certainly

1015
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,479
Speaker 2: those instances. For Major League Baseball umpires, they were getting

1016
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: about ninety three percent of ball strikes right. And again

1017
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: we can quibble over point three inches here, point three

1018
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 2: inches there. It's either right or it's not. Now I

1019
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: understand there's some reticence, and we've had Walker Bueller talking

1020
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: about it's like, hey, write a passage and the guy

1021
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: would earn like a Greg Maddox right that little extra

1022
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: spot off the black because he was consistently hitting it there. Well,

1023
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 2: that's now gone and everybody's trying to learn the new

1024
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 2: strike zone. But if you can eliminate a good chunk

1025
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: of that seven percent error why not? Yeah, I get it.

1026
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: Short term, guys are gonna have to wear it, and

1027
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 2: it is virtually impossible from sixty feet six inches behind

1028
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: a catcher be moving parts. I miss the framing part

1029
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: of catchers and the games been shipped there. But you

1030
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: know what, we're go But I'll get over it. You

1031
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: know what I'll get over It's.

1032
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 4: A small pot.

1033
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 3: I mean, how many pitch we talk about this on Wednesday?

1034
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 3: How many pitches throughout the course of a game. Do

1035
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 3: you think our quote unquote frame aimed correctly. I mean

1036
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 3: it's probably less than five.

1037
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 2: No, that's it. But but maybe if you get the

1038
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: one call.

1039
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 4: You get the one call.

1040
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 3: Yes, that one call a big spot, right if it's

1041
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 3: But it balances out because then there's probably something later

1042
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 3: in the game that you should have gotten that you

1043
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 3: didn't and now you're gonna get it. Like so I

1044
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 3: do think over time, Like I talk about this in

1045
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 3: gambling all the time, you get that horrific beat, like

1046
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 3: the beat that never should have happened. The game should

1047
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 3: have been over and something happened. Just calm down, It's

1048
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: gonna balance out later when you win a game, When

1049
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 3: you win a bad well mid a month from now

1050
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 3: that you shouldn't have they should have won.

1051
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: It's all about sample sizes. Right, my wall had got hit.

1052
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 4: Today, but over tomorrow might be better.

1053
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 2: Right, tomorrow might be better, But certainly statistically relevant, we

1054
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 2: need at least thirty instances, right, as we all remember

1055
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: from our basic statistic coursion, now that we don't run

1056
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: and try to extrapolate based on early returns. But we've

1057
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: got you know, about a fifty five percent success rate,

1058
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: fifty eight percent for the pitchers and catchers, and about

1059
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: fifty two percent I think it was for hitters to

1060
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: this point when they've challenged. So we'll watch it as

1061
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: it gets adjudicated and fine tuned as long as the

1062
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: measurement system is right. And that was the only argument

1063
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 2: to any of it that made any sense to me, Jared,

1064
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 2: is that you know the configurations and placement of sensors

1065
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: and everything might be different, and how guys were measured

1066
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 2: versus you know, how they stand in a batter's box.

1067
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: There might be a little bit of a difference that

1068
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: needs to be accounted for, but again it's all iterations

1069
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: and iterative process. You've got to start somewhere if you're

1070
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: gonna build the perfect model. I think back to I mean,

1071
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: how many times did I worked at Yahoo? How many

1072
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 2: times we would look at a product and start building

1073
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 2: the site and we'd probably go through nine billion. Obviously,

1074
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: I exaggerate iterations of it before it got pushed to everybody,

1075
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: because you wanted the user interface to as seamless as

1076
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: it could, to look good, to look smart. Man. I

1077
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,959
Speaker 2: reference to Artemis too. That's not one day of hey,

1078
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: you know what, we should do this? All right? Line

1079
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 2: it up tomorrow, right. I mean there's a lot goes in. Likewise, Baseball,

1080
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 2: multi billion dollar organization, they're not doing anything likely lightly.

1081
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 2: They've made some changes to pace and play, pace of

1082
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: game whatever, and maybe this is a way to just

1083
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 2: fight the referees and the umpires unions as we've got

1084
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: out there between them and the NFL. But it seems

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00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: like if you can improve the efficiency and effectiveness of

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00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 2: the play to play, it seems like you should take

1087
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: that opportunity if the technology is there.

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00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying get rid of umpires behind the plate.

1089
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 3: I'm not saying get rid of umpires period. I don't

1090
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 3: think that's the answer either. I think the answer is

1091
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 3: a happy medium. The answer is a little bit more nuanced,

1092
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 3: where we get the call from the robot and the

1093
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 3: umpire has like a little walkie talking in his ear

1094
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 3: and it just says ball in Japan, and the umpire

1095
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 3: can actually physically still call it, like he could still

1096
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 3: do as little like you know, the naked gun. He

1097
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 3: could still make his call, but it's just not originating

1098
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 3: from your brain. It's originating from some eye in the

1099
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 3: sky because you're still gonna have to do everything else course,

1100
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 3: and what it does at play at the plate, there's

1101
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 3: check swings, foul tips, there's all kinds of things that

1102
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 3: the umpire needs to officiate behind the plate, but that

1103
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 3: doesn't mean he has to be the actual signaler of

1104
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 3: the ball and the strike that actually makes the call.

1105
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 3: You can physically be the person that makes the call,

1106
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 3: but it's not originally from your brain, and it just

1107
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 3: it just doesn't It just doesn't make any sense, Mike,

1108
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 3: when we can get this right so quickly and so

1109
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 3: easily that they're pushing back on it so hard, and

1110
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 3: it makes me think that there is some kind of

1111
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 3: ulterior motive, some other agenda going on behind the scenes

1112
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 3: that the Empires think they're going to lose out money

1113
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 3: or something along those lines. But yeah, we just need

1114
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 3: to make it very seamless. Where umpire standing behind the plate,

1115
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 3: little buzzer in his ear say Paul, and it's Paul,

1116
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 3: and it's strike all right, strike three.

1117
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,479
Speaker 4: You're out like to be fair same way.

1118
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 2: I mean, look, corporate society, if I take away a

1119
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 2: bunch of your responsibility, yeah, I'm going to try to

1120
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 2: cut your paycheck. So I understand you know some of

1121
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: the fears and that you know you're you're fearful of

1122
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: the robot overlords maybe taking away some of your responsibility

1123
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 2: and your juice, right, because we all know the umpires

1124
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 2: that were big deals. They were larger than life, for

1125
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 2: better or for worse in terms of how they adjudicated things.

1126
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 2: Certainly behind home plate, he's Jared Smith. That Jared Smith.

1127
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 2: Betts is where you find and find me over at

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Speaker 2: Swollen Dome. Hey with the iHeartRadio app stream us wherever

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Speaker 2: to select. Fox Sports Radio is one of your presets

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Speaker 2: in the iHeart app, so he'll always pop up at

1135
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: the top of your screen. Well, you mentioned Mount Rushmore

1136
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 2: last hour. We'll circle back to it here, either for

1137
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 2: villainy or for his coaching aptitude. We're talking about Dan

1138
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: Hurley a lot over the next twenty four and forty

1139
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 2: eight hours, and we'll tip it off next Here on.

1140
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Speaker 6: Fox you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 2: My Carmen, Jared Smith with you. Thanks to Chris and

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Speaker 2: Shay making a sound so pretty. Our guy Isaac Lowancron,

1144
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Speaker 2: we'll hear from him in a couple of minutes at

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Speaker 2: Isaac loewen Kron at the news desk, Jared Smith at

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Speaker 2: Jared Smith bets alongside me. I'm Mike Carmon. Thanks for

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1149
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1150
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1151
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Speaker 2: YouTube and subscribe today, Send it to your friends and family,

1154
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Speaker 2: give them a laugh, Educate them a little bit. Look,

1155
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Speaker 2: we give gifts. You have Easter baskets. Maybe there's an

1156
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 2: Easter egg hunt and there's the link to the Fox

1157
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,919
Speaker 2: Sports Radio and your channels. How about that?

1158
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 3: How about a QR code? These days, everything's QR code.

1159
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 3: Put the QR code in the easter basket. I don't

1160
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 3: know how easter baskets work.

1161
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 4: I'm Jewish. But if that's.

1162
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 2: But you're in the basket, you open one of these

1163
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 2: plastic eggs. Maybe you get a little coin, maybe you

1164
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 2: get a little treat. But the gift that keeps giving

1165
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 2: the QR code for the Fox Sports Radio, iHeart Radio app,

1166
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: and certainly the YouTube channel, all of those beautiful things.

1167
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: Keep an eye on at Jared smith bets for everything

1168
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: he's got popping all of his different explorations and deep

1169
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 2: dives into the sporting universe and the world at large.

1170
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 4: I'm working on a NFL draft project right now. That's cool.

1171
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:57,479
Speaker 4: Blow your guys mind.

1172
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: How about that?

1173
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 4: I can't wait.

1174
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: You got that fitness book you were working on.

1175
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, a bankroll turned bankroll into biceps.

1176
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: Biceps betting to biceps whatever the case in aple fool's joke.

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00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 4: People actually a lot of people. I had a couple

1178
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 4: of people.

1179
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 3: Reach out and they said, I on followed you after

1180
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 3: you posted that, and then they followed me back, and

1181
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 3: I was like, well, you obviously didn't really do a

1182
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 3: good job of vetting it, because I posted like an

1183
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 3: hour later that it was a joke.

1184
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 2: You started singing like Jonathan Groff in Hamilton, You'll be back,

1185
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: and I believe.

1186
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 4: And then I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

1187
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 6: That was.

1188
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 3: That was what I posted about an hour or so

1189
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 3: after I originally posted that I was quitting gamble. I

1190
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 3: was retiring from gambling forever. Like, come on, no one

1191
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 3: does that. Who retireship gambling?

1192
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 2: Not one. You may claim it, but you're still making

1193
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 2: picks happening. You're still going. You may say that you're

1194
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 2: completely against gambling in any way, shape or form. Uh,

1195
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: yet you're talking about the spread. It's in there. It's

1196
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: in there, It always there.

1197
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 4: Stuck with me forever.

1198
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 3: And I'm working on this insane project for the anim

1199
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 3: draft that is all about betting on the NFL Draft.

1200
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Speaker 2: Yeah, wait, three weeks, let's knock it down, lock and load.

1201
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll do that coming up in about fifteen minutes

1202
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 2: from now, because my guy Jason Smith had a fun

1203
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: little hot take that got fust Out curs mad at

1204
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 2: him about the draft, and it's something we've talked about.

1205
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 2: It was a news item that popped up, and it's

1206
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 2: certainly while maybe far fetched, like hey, there's alternate universes.

1207
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: I watched the Marvel Cinematic universes. Lots of ways. I'm

1208
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 2: watching some crazy film with two Vince Vaughn's and a

1209
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: James Marsden in there. I mean it's crazy, but either way, look,

1210
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 2: we have the Joe Adell having the time of his life,

1211
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: obviously callback to Sergio dipp in his twenty seventeen run

1212
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 2: at ESPN. But we talk about the Yukon Huskies as

1213
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 2: a collective organization, love them to hate them, villains, heroes

1214
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: depends on which side of the aisle yard maybe which

1215
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: side you bet, but certainly look Oriema and his tirade

1216
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: with the apology non apology. I've gret relationship with a

1217
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: lot of the staffs like no, no, no, we're asking

1218
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 2: you about you and Dawn Staley because that's really where

1219
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 2: it comes down to. And then Danny Hurley, who's playing

1220
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 2: on first for Oriema. He's done. Later on today, we've

1221
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 2: got South Carolina and UCLA getting it on. Our guy,

1222
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 2: Steve Hartman comes up in about a half hour from now.

1223
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 2: He's gonna talk a lot about the Bruins. But when

1224
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 2: we look at it, the end of that game, Jared,

1225
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 2: and it's been broken down a million different ways. Just

1226
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 2: want to make sure we set the record straight. They

1227
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 2: shook hands at the end of the game. That's where

1228
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: all the cursing and yelling at each other went on.

1229
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 2: There just happened to be point one seconds left on

1230
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: the clock for them to run it out, and then

1231
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 2: Gino left. Okay, he's still a baby. He's still a

1232
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 2: cry baby that took his ball and went home and

1233
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 2: blamed everybody else except for shot making, his coaching. Because

1234
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 2: the third quarter rant really didn't help anybody. I don't

1235
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 2: know if that was Hey, you guys hearing this. Look

1236
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 2: look what I'm doing. I'm blaming the ref and I'm

1237
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 2: blaming Don Staley for using abusive language. Now let's go

1238
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 2: out and play that fourth quarter in a five point

1239
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 2: game and win. No, I mean, we could have a

1240
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: whole two thoughts concurrently on him. Twelve time winner, one

1241
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 2: of the great ambassadors for the game overall, but this

1242
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 2: was not his finest hour, and as a deposed tyrant,

1243
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 2: he went back into the locker room. Meanwhile, we got

1244
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 2: Dandy Hurley walking around screaming in the bowels of stadiums,

1245
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 2: seemingly to himself, channeling some of his inner Jeremy Strong

1246
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 2: from succession as he goes and puffs his chest out

1247
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 2: when he's getting booed in the post games, like why

1248
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 2: you're mad about the head butt? Like, well, I think

1249
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: folks were kind of salty about that because in theory

1250
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 2: you could have lost because of your skull budding of

1251
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 2: an official. But play on, as they say. There's the

1252
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 2: walking the tightrope kind of aspect to this, right hero

1253
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 2: for some villain for others. But the largess of it

1254
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 2: all is the greatness of their coaching acumen, whether it's

1255
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 2: as a people manager or as a tactician or however

1256
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 2: you assign that pie makes me want to go buy

1257
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 2: a pizza after him done is the genius of it

1258
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 2: all when we talk about these coaches, and for Danny

1259
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 2: Hurley on Monday night, he has an opportunity to go

1260
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 2: into some rarefied air. I mean, we are talking of

1261
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 2: a class of two four. What have we got six

1262
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 2: guys ahead of him in terms of all time NCAA titles.

1263
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 2: Wouldn't attend Coach k at six again, Coach k Wavin

1264
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 2: and everybody after Shire loss was Funny Rup at four

1265
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 2: and then you got WILLIAMS Calhoun and Bob Knight at three,

1266
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 2: and Danny Hurley has an opportunity to join that class

1267
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:57,439
Speaker 2: on Monday night.

1268
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll start with the gino stuff.

1269
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 3: I think I think coaches should be graded differently on

1270
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 3: how they react post game, whether they win or lose.

1271
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 3: I think the way that Hurley won his game and

1272
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 3: how he reacted after that with the headbud and I

1273
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 3: guess they call it a forehead hug. I don't know,

1274
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it. It like you give

1275
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 3: him a little leeway because he just like, that's one

1276
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 3: of the most iconic moments in college reason college basketball history,

1277
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 3: and and your emotions take over in the right the

1278
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 3: you know, the thrill of victory, and then there's the

1279
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 3: agony of defeat. And I think how a coach handles

1280
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 3: himself in defeat really much more defines you as a

1281
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 3: coach than how you handle yourself in victory, because I

1282
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 3: think again the emotions of victory since sometimes can be

1283
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 3: so overwhelming that he almost like you lose yourself a

1284
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 3: little bit. Wherein defeat, I believe is where you find yourself.

1285
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 3: You find who you really are as a person. And

1286
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 3: I think that is what concerns me about how Geno

1287
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 3: acted because based on what I heard, and again this

1288
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 3: is just me gathering the walnuts into the into the

1289
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 3: you know, the in the acorns to try to figure

1290
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 3: out what happened here. He was upset that don didn't

1291
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 3: give him give him a handshake before the game. Like

1292
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 3: there's like a Final four protocol that says you're supposed

1293
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 3: to the coaches are supposed to meet in a certain spot,

1294
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 3: you know, the nineteenth grade, you know, the ninth green

1295
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 3: at nine tricks. So to say, yeah, it's supposed to,

1296
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 3: they're supposed to be in a certain spot and handshake

1297
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 3: and this and that, and and Down knows that because

1298
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 3: she's been in the Final four, and Gino knows that

1299
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 3: because he's been in the final fr and and and

1300
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 3: Down kind of stiffed him like like that's that was

1301
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 3: the glean of what I figured out.

1302
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, what it came down to is the waiting game

1303
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 2: kept me there for three minutes, you know whatever. The

1304
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 2: protocol is, Hey over the loud speaker, an announcement and hey,

1305
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 2: go shake hands whatever. But they did shake hands before the.

1306
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 4: Game, and technically Geno's right.

1307
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,479
Speaker 3: I think technically Geno's right that in that moment, Don

1308
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 3: should have been there and she and and she wasn't.

1309
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 3: But my question is that's before the game starts, yep.

1310
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 3: And now you're carrying that anger with you throughout the

1311
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 3: entire game because obviously this was something that he was

1312
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 3: steing over.

1313
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 4: I don't know for how long.

1314
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 3: But they got their butts whooped in that game, and

1315
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 3: it's fair to question if Gino's mind was in the

1316
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 3: right place during the course of the game.

1317
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 2: And that's it, right in that third quarter interview, And

1318
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 2: again we can always have that conversation of whether you

1319
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,439
Speaker 2: should be having these interviews in the middle of a game.

1320
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 2: I think they're fun and when done right, like I always.

1321
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,439
Speaker 3: I think it reveals a lot about the character again

1322
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 3: of the coach to us during the heat of the moment.

1323
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 4: How does that coach handle themselves well?

1324
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 2: And he handled himself poorly. And that's where you know,

1325
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 2: as as Jason and I were talking about it as

1326
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 2: it was breaking down, we had all the audio. You

1327
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 2: can find the podcast in its full form the trunk

1328
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 2: aate it. I think for Dawn Staley, this was not

1329
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 2: just to win in the moment to propel you to

1330
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 2: the final. I think for her and for all the

1331
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 2: other elite programs in women's college basketball, there's an invisible

1332
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 2: high five chain going along against the juggernaut that's been

1333
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 2: gino Oriama. Doesn't mean he doesn't still have great relationships

1334
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 2: with his players, right. We watched all the TIERI stuff

1335
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 2: with Page Beckers a year ago and all of that stuff.

1336
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 2: But on the grand scheme, how unhinged he got in

1337
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 2: that interview, and she's saying things I can't even begin to.

1338
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 2: Oh my ears they hurt over that. Yes, because nobody's

1339
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 2: ever cursed at an official on a sideline before. Yeah, right, right,

1340
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 2: So like he ad come off a.

1341
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 4: Little bit petty, a little sour grapes.

1342
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 3: It kind of felt like he was a little upset

1343
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 3: that his team was getting whooped and he took it

1344
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 3: out on Dawn in that.

1345
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 4: Situation, right, But that's what it looks you would have

1346
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 4: felt like for.

1347
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 2: Me, but you were the big bad bully all season

1348
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 2: along and what thirty six points.

1349
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 4: Per game at least don't like to get bullied.

1350
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 2: But that's just all of a sudden, Mike.

1351
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 3: It reminds me of like, you know, you're having a

1352
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 3: bad day at work and like things are going really bad,

1353
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 3: you know, like you get a flat tire and all

1354
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 3: these things, and then you come home and your your

1355
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 3: your spouse like overcooks dinner, puts too much salt in

1356
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 3: you know, your tomato sauce, and then you freak out

1357
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 3: over that, and like the little thing escalates into this

1358
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 3: big explosion because over the course of your day you

1359
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 3: had a really rough day. But it really wasn't that

1360
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 3: handshake that probably, you know, miffed Gino. It was probably

1361
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 3: the fact that his team got their butts handed to

1362
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 3: them for forty minutes.

1363
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was just amazing to watch though. As

1364
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 2: it melted down on the court, right you had players

1365
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 2: missing wide open layups. You had little bunnies in the

1366
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:37,839
Speaker 2: lane that they've taken a million times that are suddenly misses.

1367
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 2: Your your two biggest players. When I think, what was

1368
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 2: it combined seven for thirty one. Yeah, your point guard

1369
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 2: missed a layup after splitting the lane late bad day.

1370
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 4: The office to something very minor.

1371
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 2: But that's it, right, So it all adds up. And look,

1372
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 2: you could you could be unhappy about the officiating if

1373
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 2: you're if you're going down that road, if you're gino.

1374
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 2: Guess what they just I did like the Legion of

1375
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 2: Boom and like the Patriots all those years ago, they

1376
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 2: were gonna let you get physical, and that was true

1377
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 2: in that game, beat each other up, have at it,

1378
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 2: and your team didn't answer the bell, and then when

1379
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 2: you had open shots, you didn't make those. And I

1380
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 2: guarant damn tea going into the fourth quarter. Some of

1381
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 2: those errors that got exacerbated were largely in part because

1382
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 2: you watched your coach lose his mind for the prior

1383
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 2: three quarters. And to that that ultimate interview where Holly

1384
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 2: Rowe was just she had a massive game for her

1385
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 2: for sure of Wow, what am I even seeing here?

1386
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 2: Going back to the halftime sprint and the jersey thing,

1387
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 2: I'll strong ripped her own jersey, but you know what

1388
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 2: it made for better fodder and better copy until there

1389
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 2: was videotape to prove that.

1390
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 3: Just at Gino gets the help he needs because it

1391
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 3: feels like that was a rough like he it seems

1392
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 3: like he just a little bit of little therapy. After

1393
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 3: that moment, just saying Jared, the recruiting trail just got

1394
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 3: that much more exciting.

1395
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 2: Hey, you know you want to cross Yukon off your list.

1396
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 2: Here's how we operate here.

1397
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 4: Well, they're gonna ask him about it now.

1398
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 2: They have to listen.

1399
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 3: Recruiting is more about fundraising and relationships than it is

1400
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 3: about actually finding talent.

1401
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, I don't.

1402
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 4: Know how that situation helps him in that area. It doesn't.

1403
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, on the other side, Danny Hurley, as we alluded

1404
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 2: to the rarefied air only six with more championships under

1405
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 2: their belt. Polarizing guy, But you know me, I'd rather

1406
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 2: have it one or two villains in the mix that

1407
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 2: we can talk about that stir the drink and going

1408
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,600
Speaker 2: back to our one folks can find again the podcast.

1409
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 2: Shay and Chris will get that together and get that

1410
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 2: up when we're finished. But you don't have to like

1411
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 2: the methodology, you don't have to like the guy, but

1412
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 2: there has to be the begrudging for some respect about

1413
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 2: the results and all they're decided underdogs here, Jared. I mean,

1414
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 2: I don't know that there's gonna be any coach that'll

1415
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 2: be able to play that better than Danny Hurley.

1416
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 3: Oh that that's all he needed to see, because I

1417
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 3: know they were technically an underdog against Illinois, but that

1418
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 3: game was a very tight line. I think it closed

1419
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 3: one and a half. It was barely an underdog. Now

1420
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 3: he's a seven point under, a full touchdown underdog to Michigan,

1421
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,919
Speaker 3: and he gets to use that narrative in his back pocket.

1422
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 3: Now that's not gonna help his team make shots. So

1423
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 3: they were plus eighteen net three point margin. They made

1424
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:39,719
Speaker 3: twelve and Illinois made six. That's you know, six threes

1425
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 3: times three is eighteen. They're gonna need to be in

1426
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 3: that range again on Monday night, and they were a

1427
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 3: plus four turnover margin. They won the turnover margin eight

1428
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 3: to four. They're gonna have to win both three and

1429
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 3: turnover margin on Monday night, and I don't think. I

1430
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 3: don't think they can do it, but I wouldn't put

1431
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 3: it past I wouldn't be shocked if they do it,

1432
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 3: but I don't think they can do it. I don't

1433
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 3: know if they can play that well well and that efficiently. Again,

1434
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 3: they did it against Duke the final ten minutes. They

1435
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 3: were incredible. They won the turnover margin eleven to one

1436
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 3: over the final ten minutes of that Duke game, and

1437
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 3: then again didn't turn it over in the last ten

1438
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 3: minutes of the game. Their last turnover in the Duke

1439
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 3: game was that the ten minute mark of the second half. Incredible,

1440
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 3: and then they went the first twenty six minutes without

1441
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 3: a turnover against Illinois. I don't know if they can

1442
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 3: go thirty six minutes without a turnover again, but they

1443
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 3: might have to, and they might have to make a

1444
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 3: bowtload of threes again.

1445
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 4: Now, maybe they do. Maybe the shots.

1446
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 3: Fall if they do. If they do those two things, well, Mike,

1447
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 3: they are live on Monday night.

1448
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,759
Speaker 2: I just hope it's close late Jason Smith and I'll

1449
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 2: have it on air for you here. We'll be breaking

1450
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 2: it down and well ripping folks appropriately as it goes through.

1451
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 2: The last thing off of those two final four games

1452
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 2: from yesterday, Jared, I the eight combined assists between Arizona

1453
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 2: and Illinois. That's less than most rec League games. I mean,

1454
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 2: that's that level of ineffectiveness.

1455
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 3: Michigan was just like so wide open, free flowing, like

1456
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 3: it's just Arizona just did not get into them at

1457
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 3: all defensively, and and you know, you just give him,

1458
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 3: you give him a lot of credit for that. And Illinois,

1459
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 3: I think is another one too, where Illinois just didn't

1460
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 3: have any of that fight. Yeah, you know, early in

1461
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 3: the game they got punched and then they battled back

1462
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 3: a little bit, but then down the stretch like it

1463
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 3: was just like they kind of knew. I think it's

1464
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 3: tough when a twenty year old kick kind of knows

1465
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 3: you're gonna lose. It's just it's tough to kind of

1466
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 3: continue to fight sure and play at that high level.

1467
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 3: And that's why when teams do get blown out and

1468
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 3: you get the one player on the losing team that's

1469
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 3: just going off still, I think that's almost more impressive

1470
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 3: than when you're winning and you're going off.

1471
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,560
Speaker 2: There's no question about it. At Jared Smith Betts is

1472
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 2: where you find and find me over at swallowing him

1473
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 2: for our final time this morning. It's our guy. Isaac

1474
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 2: Loewen Kron At Isaac lohan Kron is where you find

1475
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 2: him in the Twitter verse.

1476
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 8: What's up by Low and Mike and Jared are busy

1477
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 8: day already as we look forward to the National Championship

1478
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 8: game tomorrow night between Michigan and Yukon.

1479
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 2: Is today you kind of?

1480
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 8: Head coach Danny Hurley said that Husky junior guards Solo

1481
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,879
Speaker 8: Ball sprained his left foot in the win over Illinois

1482
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 8: and the Semis last night. He will not practice today.

1483
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 8: In fact, today he's in a walking boot. Ball is

1484
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 8: Yukon's third leading score at thirteen points a game on

1485
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 8: the season, so his status for the National title game

1486
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 8: against the Wolverines presently undetermined. Off the court, Alabama head

1487
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 8: coach Nate Oates has signed a new contract that will

1488
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 8: make him one of the top five highest paid coaches

1489
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 8: in the country. Coming up just under two hours from

1490
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 8: now with three point thirty eastern, it's the women's National

1491
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 8: Championship game between South Carolina and UCLA and Major League

1492
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 8: Baseball Los Angeles Dodgers star Mookie Betts has been diagnosed

1493
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 8: with a right oblique strain. He'll be placed on the

1494
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 8: ten day injured list. The Dodgers game at Washington today

1495
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 8: presently in a weather delay. And more big coaching news

1496
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 8: out of the National Hockey League, of course, is Jared

1497
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 8: Knows with the Las Vegas Golden Knights recently out of

1498
01:14:55,560 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 8: nowhere hiring John Tortorella the New York Islanders to fired

1499
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 8: head coach Patrick Waugh, hall of Fame goalkeeper, and they

1500
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:08,480
Speaker 8: replaced him with former Dallas Stars head coach Peter DeBoer,

1501
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 8: who is fired by the Stars last year despite the

1502
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 8: fact that he helped lead them to the Western Conference finals.

1503
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 8: So a busy Sunday already, guys, back to you.

1504
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,839
Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Ilo, have a blest one at Isaac

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Speaker 2: Lohencron where you find him in the Twitter verse, find

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Speaker 2: Jared over at Jared Smith Bets by Me at Swollen Dome. Also,

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Speaker 2: yesterday the Sabers qualified for the Stanley Cup playoffs, first

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Speaker 2: time that they've been able to do that in a decade.

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Speaker 2: So you know what rebirth renewal. We talk about it

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Speaker 2: as well. Team out there in the deserts trying to

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Speaker 2: do it. Did a move they made this week change

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Speaker 2: their fortunes of these coming weeks? And will it change

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Speaker 2: Jared Smith's prep. We'll explain it all as we wrap

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Speaker 2: up here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: full show posted right after we get off the air

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Speaker 2: at Jared Smith Betts find me over at Swollen Dome.

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Speaker 2: Any pick for the women's game later under.

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Speaker 3: So the under is eight and oh in the last

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01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 3: eight women's turning games. It went four and oh in

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Speaker 3: the Elite eight, it went two and oh in the

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Speaker 3: final four. And I just feel like these teams just

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01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 3: kind of shrink up in the moment because the overs

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Speaker 3: were actually very profitable early on in the tournament. In fact,

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Speaker 3: despite the fact that the unders hitting eight straight Women's

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Speaker 3: turning games, the over is still thirty five and thirty

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Speaker 3: one in the tournament. So that means it was thirty

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Speaker 3: five and twenty three until the last two games of

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Speaker 3: the Sweet sixteen, and we've had an eight straight underrun.

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Speaker 3: Because I think when the when the the level increases

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Speaker 3: of the players and the teams. I think the the

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Speaker 3: play tightens up a little bit. I call it TSS

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01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 3: tight sphincter syndrome, and it's just it's very prevalent in

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Speaker 3: these important games. When you're dealing with twenty year olds.

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Speaker 2: There you go South Carolina, four and a half is

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Speaker 2: what I'm seeing. One twenty seven and a half.

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Speaker 4: Wow, I got won thirty.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we're seeing some movement.

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Speaker 3: Then, yeah, well, because again the sharp betters are seeing

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Speaker 3: what I'm seeing. Not saying that I am a sharp

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Speaker 3: better but I play one on TV sometimes. But they

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Speaker 3: they they see what I see with these numbers, and

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01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 3: they're been there. It's been it's been significant. I mean

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Speaker 3: the UCLA Texas game the other day stayed under by

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01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 3: forty points. The total was one thirty four and a half.

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Speaker 3: The final game total was ninety five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Those those games on Friday night were we say,

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01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:57,759
Speaker 2: esthetically displeasing. I mean, the best part was the drama

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Speaker 2: with the coaches.

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Speaker 3: That was the only good part of either game. South

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Speaker 3: Carolina you con stayed under by twenty six and a

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Speaker 3: half point. No total State at one ten.

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Speaker 2: That's second half. I mean, give Betts credit though. I mean,

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Speaker 2: she's an absolute menace on the defensive end, which.

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Speaker 4: Is why you say, like keeps it tight.

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Speaker 3: It feels like it could be a close game, but

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Speaker 3: I think South Carolina is the better team.

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Speaker 2: Get in about eighty seven dollars, all right, we got

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Speaker 2: about two minutes left here, So I give you the

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Speaker 2: Jason Smith hot take. After the five year, one seventy

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Speaker 2: two deal, which is essentially we all agree in theory

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Speaker 2: a one year, twenty million dollars deal for Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 2: showing up there in the desert, now play as well

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Speaker 2: activate some of these other things. He's still getting eight

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Speaker 2: million or thereabouts from Atlanta that you're looking at a

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Speaker 2: scenario and look, it's ninety nine point five percent or

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Speaker 2: whatever probability. But what if gold Mendoza gets spun off

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Speaker 2: somewhere else and that Captain Kirk is the guy because

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Speaker 2: they're not ready to win now, like is my extension

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Speaker 2: of it. And by time you are, you're already making

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Speaker 2: a decision of whether he's got to be your guy.

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Speaker 2: Because if you're bringing in Kirk Cousins, is he just

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Speaker 2: saying no, no, no, I get it. I'm number two here.

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Speaker 2: I don't buy that he's ever that guy.

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Speaker 4: I disagree with that.

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Speaker 3: I mean because also the Raiders signed Tyler Lindabam, Kay

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Speaker 3: Walker and Nkobe Dean, Jalen Naylor, Quidy pay, Eric Stokes,

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Speaker 3: Malcolm Konz, they traded for Toron Johnson, and they get

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Speaker 3: Max Crosby back. So I'm not under the impression that

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Speaker 3: the Raiders can't win for a year. Go, you know,

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Speaker 3: start to build a culture of winning in the locker

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Speaker 3: room with Kirk and then pass that on to Mendoza,

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Speaker 3: and Mendoza takes over at some point inevitably when Kirk

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Speaker 3: struggles because physically he's not probably ready to start and

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Speaker 3: play seventeen games at a high level.

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Speaker 4: That's my take on the situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the curiosity right where he's at physically

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01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 2: two years removed from a huge injury, and last year

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Speaker 2: there were a couple of moments where it looked like

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins of a few years prior, and then an

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Speaker 2: awful lot of boy, he looks every bit the thirty

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Speaker 2: seven plus that he is.

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Speaker 3: So I think they draft Mendoza and they figure out

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Speaker 3: who's better from the camp returns, and that's who they

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Speaker 3: figure out who to start, and either way, Cousins is

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01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 3: going to be a mentor even if he doesn't start

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01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 3: from week one. I would make Cousins the favorite to

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01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 3: start week one, but that doesn't mean he will.

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Speaker 2: I just like the the hot take rey of it,

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01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 2: of course, because we got a talking point because we

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Speaker 2: got nothing in this draft otherwise.

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Speaker 3: That's what the Raiders are intending to do, because I

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Speaker 3: don't think they would have signed all these other players

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Speaker 3: if they thought they were punting this year.

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Speaker 2: Well, you just had a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: Uh, But then they get crossby back and they still

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01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 3: kept all of them because they could have backed down

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Speaker 3: all those deals because it was they weren't finalized.

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Speaker 2: Well, you still had all that money to spend. We

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Speaker 2: got plenty of time on that at Jared Smith Batts

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Speaker 2: find me over at Swollen Dome coming back. He got

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Speaker 2: Steve and VJ. Happy Easter, everybody, go do great things.