1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Seventeenth contail the ridal, What time down we all brew tampering? Baby, 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: well happened. It's time for Big Blue Kickoff Live with 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Sean Morash and John Schmilt. You know what I saw 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: New York Giant. 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: Cride on the fan one oh one nine FM and 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: always live on the Free honesty. 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: That's going on on the buzz craz Dog. That's a lot. 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 3: Saturday special edition of Big Blue Kickoff Live right here on. 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: Sports Radio sixty six w f AN. 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 3: It's all brought to you by Cadillac, the official luxury 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 3: vehicle of the New York Football Giants. Down by Town 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: Fair Tire. Nobody beats Town Fair Tire. 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: Nobody. 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 3: Happy Thanksgiving everybody, John Smelt, Sean Morash with you on 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: this special salary edition of Big Blue Kickoff Live, and Sean, 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: I don't know about you. This feels just like it 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: did get ready for Super Bowl forty two and forty. 18 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 4: Six, Baby, No doubt, no doubt. 19 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: In fact, I think Pat Boyle just had media day, 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: so we covered that part of the Super Bowl week 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: here with the update. 22 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 4: No doubt. 23 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have visions of Victor Cruz dancing in the 24 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: end zone as we prepare for Bailey Zappi, Mac Jones 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: and Will Grier tomorrow. 26 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: Tommy DeVito just got like six marriage proposals to day. 27 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 3: Everything's going great, right, Oh, it's so perfect, So I 28 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: buy all up before we go any further on this 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: very much. 30 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: In eating weekend, for Eating America and Thanksgiving and what 31 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: we're thankful for, I need to put an end to 32 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: one of the biggest fallacies that has gone around over 33 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: the last week and a half as Tommy DeVito manias 34 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 2: swept us all John Schmelk, and that is Tommy DeVito 35 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: didn't invent a drunken chicken palm. He didn't invent vodka 36 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: sauce on a chicken palm. 37 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 4: Hero. 38 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: I don't know what you Jersey folks have been doing, 39 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: but on Long Island we've been having vodka sauce on 40 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: chicken palms dating back to when I was in high school. 41 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 4: How do you think I have so many fat rolls 42 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 4: on me? Please? 43 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: I see. I wouldn't say yeah. 44 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: Again, I wouldn't say it's unique, but I also wouldn't 45 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 3: say it's typical. I think probably the marinara is more 46 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: typical on the chicken part. 47 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: Of course, but the Bulls had two years were pipping 48 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: was their featured guy. Oh I'm saying is that the 49 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: chicken farm has existed. I don't like Tommy DeVito taking 50 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: credit here. 51 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 4: I don't like it. 52 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the game here, Patriots quarterback. 53 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 3: We still don't know everybody's gonna get ready to play. 54 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: So let's play a game here, Marash. You know, I 55 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 3: like to get your prediction on who's gonna win. More importantly, Okay, 56 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get your prediction who's gonna play. So what 57 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: do you think who's gonna be the starting quarterback for 58 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: the Patriots tomorrow? 59 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: I have my theory. You go first. 60 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 4: I'm throwing a dart. I think Will Greener so do I. 61 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: Everything that has been said about you know, even Mac 62 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: Jones leaking out that you know, this is the kind 63 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: of defense you need a veteran to play for. I 64 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: don't think Bailey's appy' is an option versus Wink Martindale, 65 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: especially the way that Wink has blitzed them in the preseason. 66 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: And I think Balli's appy is the least likely to start. 67 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think they're. 68 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: Gonna give Will Greer a short leash and see if 69 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: he can jump start the offense a little bit tomorrow. 70 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I'm with you a couple of the 71 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 3: we don't yet know about who's gonna play in this game, 72 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: that we should get to very quickly here before we 73 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: get into the game a little bit more deeply. Morash 74 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 3: Dexter Lawrence doubtful for this game with a hamstring. It 75 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 3: would be the first ever game he's had to miss 76 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: due to injury. 77 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: The only game he has never not played in is 78 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: or never not. 79 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: The only game he did not play in for the 80 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: Giants that's some great English adow me is the final 81 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: game of last year and the Giants rest of their 82 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: players against the Eagles, So this would be the first 83 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: ever game he's had to miss due to injury, which 84 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: for a man of that size that plays that position 85 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: is fairly amazing. Darius Layne also doubtful with the neck 86 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 3: injury he suffered that on the same play that he suffered. 87 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: I guess originally he was an arm injury right in 88 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: that game last week. 89 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: Evan exactly, Evan Neil's not gonna play with the ankle, 90 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: and then Eric Gray was coming back from that ankle 91 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: injury that he was on ir with he's not gonna play. 92 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: As typical, Bill Belichick has many players that are questionable 93 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: for fans of the older generation. If you go back 94 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: to the probable days, and he would list around eighteen 95 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: guys as like literally between fifteen and eighteen guys as probable. 96 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 4: I think Brady was never not on the injury report. 97 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, everybody was on the injury but it 98 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: was like, literally you would have half the roster on 99 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: the injury report. Then they they literally eliminated the probable 100 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: designation on the injury report just because of Bill Belichick 101 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 3: and the way he used to use it. 102 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: So Trent Brown, that's the big one. 103 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: Especially if Dexter Lawrence can't go, the Giants are gonna 104 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: need to. 105 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: Get edge pressure. 106 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 3: And he's still even though he's on the older side, 107 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 3: he can still play when he's healthy. He's got an ankle, 108 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 3: he's questionable. Quarterback Jonathan Jones with the knee. Riley Reef 109 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: another offensive lineman, he's questionable with the knee. Special teams 110 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: A's Matthew Slater. Dietrich Wiseh's one of the better defensive linemen. 111 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: We'll talk about their defense in a second. Linebacker Juwan Bentley, 112 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: all those players are question a low with Devonte Parker 113 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 3: who's trying to come back from that concussion. You know, Sean, 114 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 3: this is not going to be an offensive extravaganza here. 115 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 3: It's literally the too lowest scoring teams in the National 116 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: Football League. And it's just one of those games where 117 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: I feel like, and this is the old Tom Coffin phrase, 118 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 3: and this goes back to Bill Parcels, more games in 119 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 3: this league are lost than they are won, toll, And 120 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: I feel like this is the game where, all right, 121 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 3: protect the ball, don't give the short field, make the 122 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 3: other team make long drives to score, and if you 123 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: don't make that big mistake, you're gonna give yourself a 124 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: pretty good chance to win this football game. 125 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I think the very small basis for the 126 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 2: Giants to win this game is at a bare minimum, 127 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: this schmelk at the end of the first half, Tommy Devino, 128 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 2: don't throw a hail Mary that gets returned ninety nine 129 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 2: yards for a touchdown, And I think the Giants walk 130 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: out of MetLife no matter what, not the biggest losers 131 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: of this weekend, no matter what, as long as that 132 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: doesn't happen. But yes to that point, don't turn the 133 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: ball over. You're talking about Slater being questionable. Remember we 134 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: have Olshinski here, the former Patriots special team or maybe 135 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: it's a big punt return that changes this game, that 136 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: sparks you for field position. And I think you know, 137 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 2: look when discussing everything that's happened around the Patriots and Giants, 138 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: and clearly their offensive struggles have been as magnif as 139 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: the Giants, the difference being that the Giants have had 140 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: two quarterbacks go down. 141 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 4: The Patriots starter has just sucked from the very beginning. 142 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: I just think in this spot, man, Tommy DeVito, again, 143 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: it just protect the football. 144 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 4: Last week was a great revelation. 145 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: But last week the Giants also got six turnovers in 146 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: all shapes and sizes and needed every last one of 147 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: them down to Isaiah Simmons at the end to seal 148 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: a victory. 149 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 4: So while we all walked away talking. 150 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 2: About the leaps and bounds that Tommy DeVito's made, boys, 151 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 2: he gotten better over the last four weeks, no doubt 152 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: about it. 153 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: This is still Bill Belichick and a Bill Belichick's scheme. 154 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 2: Off an extra week, in an extra bye week at 155 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 2: an undrafted rookie, there are gonna be some confusing looks 156 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: thrown at Tommy DeVito. Don't look to set the world 157 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: on fire. This doesn't have to be a three or 158 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: four touchdown pass game. Again from DeVito, He's just got 159 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 2: to take what the defense gives him and know that 160 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: on the other side, even without Dexter Lawrence, potentially the 161 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: Giants defense I don't think is gonna get lit up 162 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: in this game. Either protect the football and you have 163 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: a chance to walk away with a victory. 164 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm curious to see what this defense looks like 165 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 3: without Dexter Lawrence, right, because whenever this defense plays well, 166 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 3: Dexter Lawrence is a monster. That's how this has gone. 167 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: So I'm curious to see if is a cave on 168 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: Thibadeau that steps up. Is it one of these you know, 169 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: is it a younger defensive tackle. 170 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: Is it a d J. 171 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: Davidson, Jordan Riley that steps up? Todashan Robinson is a nacho? 172 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: Do they blitz more than Mike mcfad Noel Kerrica. I'm 173 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: curious to see how the Giants work that defensively to 174 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: make up for some of that. 175 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna call it easy because you don't have 176 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: to scheme it. 177 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: Up right, some of that easy pressure that they're gonna 178 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: lose without Dexter Lawrence simply whipping the center in front 179 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: of him every other play. 180 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and on the flip man. 181 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: This just to be a big step up spot for 182 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: Azzojlari now two weeks from me from coming off the 183 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: IR because I think there's no doubt about it. Without 184 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: dex there's gonna be a lot of attention paid to 185 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: cave On Thibodeau on one edge, he'll probably face double teams. 186 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: The entire game is hez Ojalari. Man has to come alive. 187 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: This has to be a big O'jelari game. This has 188 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: to be edge pressure NonStop. 189 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: And you're right. 190 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: Look in the interior, Davidson has been what he's been. 191 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: We've seen Jordan Riley in active, a ton Uh and 192 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: A'shon Robinson will eat up space. But now we're now 193 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: no Leonard Williams and potentially no Dexter Lawrence. 194 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 4: It's gonna be a completely different look in the middle. 195 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,679 Speaker 2: I don't think you can expect a completely dominant, you know, gain, 196 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: but just stop the run in the middle and just 197 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: hope the disease. If they're focusing that much on Kaevon 198 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: is the guy that could create a lot of edge 199 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: pressure and create some trouble on the other end. 200 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you hit it. 201 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: You hope that group stops the run and then you 202 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: force whomever this Patriot quarterback is with. Again, one of 203 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: the least impactful groups of weapons in the passing game 204 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 3: in the league, right for the Patriots. I mean Kendrick Bourne, 205 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: Mika Sicki Hunter, Henry De Mario Douglas, Juju Smith shoot. 206 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 3: I mean, look, go down the list. None of these 207 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: guys are striking fear in your hearts. You don't have 208 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 3: to worry about that. And I got to imagine this 209 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: is a huge bring the heat game for Wink, right 210 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: because you're not worried about putting your guys in man 211 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 3: to man defense against this group. You know, this is 212 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 3: not Washington's group of wide receivers, This is not Dallas' 213 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: group of wide receivers. 214 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: This isn't even the Raiders group of wide receivers. 215 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: Right. I think that Devonte Adams, So I think Wink 216 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 3: is gonna be feeling his oatsier against this group of 217 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: Patriots quarterbacks, whichever one's happened to play, and the heat's 218 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: gonna become an all game long. 219 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't know if I have too much 220 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 4: trip to fan. 221 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: Did I read write that yesterday it was a big 222 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: day that we expected Dorry Jackson back here. Yes, correct, 223 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: So I mean that's also part of it, right, if 224 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: you get probably your most trustworthy veteran corner back in 225 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 2: the line of first time in a couple of weeks. 226 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 4: And we love what Tay Banks has done. He's had 227 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 4: his ups and downs. 228 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: But if you put more trust in that back end, 229 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 2: then you're not worried about leaving say a Trey Hawkins 230 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: on an island in that spot. That's only gonna help 231 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 2: Wink be able to bring the pressure sneakily. A Dori 232 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: Jackson could be a big ad back to what Winke 233 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: Martindale wants to do. 234 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 235 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I want to football with the other side before 236 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: we take our break here in Morash and the Patriot defense, 237 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: the personnel isn't what it was, right. I think all 238 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 3: you need to look at is that Matthew Judon still 239 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: leads them in sacks and he hasn't played since Week four. 240 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: I think that tells you all you need to. 241 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 3: Know about their pass rush and they lost Christigan Zalez. 242 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: They're really talented. Oh I thought had a chance to 243 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: be Defensive Player of the Year. 244 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 4: He won Rookie of the Month. Yeah, Rookie of the month. 245 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 4: They got hurt that last week. 246 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry. 247 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: Yes, defensive Rookie of the Year not played right the year. 248 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: Defensive Rookie of the Year, they lost him. Their defensive 249 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: personnal is not the same. But you look at some 250 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: of the underlying metrics here. There's so fifteenth in ep 251 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: AL out for play, their top six rush EPA rush 252 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: success rate. 253 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: Their past stuff isn't great. 254 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: But you said this earlier, right, what Bill Belichick's history 255 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: is against rookie passers. Throw in the fact and no 256 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 3: one's more effective at taking away the other team's best 257 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: weapon than Bill Belichick. 258 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: And we all know that's number twenty six. 259 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 3: So he's gonna focus all his energy on taking twenty 260 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: six away. Then he's gonna try, to your point earlier, 261 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: mixing's up in the secondary. 262 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: We go back to the Sam Darnold seeing ghost things. 263 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 3: We've all seen him work against rookie quarterbacks, and I'm 264 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: really curious to see how this cat and mouse game 265 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: between the Giants offensive staff and Bill Belichick can kind 266 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: of do battle in this game and see which group 267 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 3: can give their side a schematic advantage. 268 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and for any cocky, pumped up Giant fans, bless 269 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: your heart. Look and you want to be optimistic about 270 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: this game. I totally understand that. But just remember this. 271 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: For all that's gone wrong in New England this year, 272 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: for all the talk about what the future holds for 273 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick at his core, at his bread and butter 274 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: and Giant fins, we know this better than anybody, right. 275 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick is still a defensive scheme artist. So that 276 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 2: is the one thing even if the offense isn't move 277 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: the ball, even if his quarterback stinks, where the Giants 278 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: can't full victim here is have him take away Saquon 279 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: and have Tommy DeVito just chucking up balls so confused. 280 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 2: That's what goes back to the original point. Just protect 281 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 2: the football in this game. 282 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: Eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six 283 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six. 284 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll take a. 285 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: Couple of your calls. That and more live from the 286 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 3: town Fair Tires Studios. Nobody beats town Fair Tires Nobody Schmelchemrash. 287 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 3: Saturday edition of Big Blue Kickoff Live presented by Cadillac, 288 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: the official luxury vehicle of the New York Football Giants, 289 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 3: will be right back after. 290 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: This Saturday this year live present of a. 291 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 3: Cadillac, the official luxury vehicle of the New York Football Giants, 292 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 3: and the town Fair Tire Nobody beats Town Fair Tire 293 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: Nobody eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty 294 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: six Smoke get Marash with you on the special Saturday 295 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: edition of Big Blue Kickoff Live. If you like the program, 296 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 3: check out our daily weekday episodes of Big Blue Kickoff 297 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 3: Live on giants dot Com and the Giants Mobile app. 298 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: Every weekday, we are live at twelve thirty. 299 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 3: We take your calls and talk Giants football with you, 300 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: so make sure you go. 301 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: Check that out. 302 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: Getting ready for Giants and Patriots kickoff one o'clock at 303 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 3: MetLife Stadium on Sunday, Happy Thanksgiving everybody. 304 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: Pregame coverage tomorrow begins at eleven am. 305 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: Johnathan Casius and I will be on the stage right 306 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: inside the MetLife Gave and MetLife Central at MetLife Stadium. 307 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 3: Come in and check it out and Mirash obviously a 308 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 3: historic matchup. 309 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: Here, super Bowl forty two and Super Bowl forty six. 310 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: Super Bowl forty two one of the biggest upsets in 311 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: NFL history, Giants knocking off the undefeated Patriots. Here's one 312 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 3: thing that annoys me about those two games, Marash. People 313 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: can flate them like they're the same, and those two 314 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: matchups and teams that the Giants rolled out on those 315 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 3: two games, some of the names are the same. 316 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: They could not be more different. 317 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: You go back to super Bowl forty six, spreads only 318 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 3: a couple points, like the game wasn't much more than 319 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: a toss up. 320 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: Super Bowl forty two was a legit crazy opposite. 321 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 3: That Patriot team still, in my opinion, is the best 322 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: football team I've ever seen. Unbelievable team, so good, their 323 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 3: point differential was insane. 324 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: They were dominant. Great team. 325 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: Giants played an almost perfect game, beat the New England Patriots. 326 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: Fantastic but very different types of teams too. 327 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: The forty two team is much more defensive oriented. I 328 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: know the scores were the same. 329 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: But that forty six team Eli Manning in the passing 330 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 3: game carried that team on his back the whole year. 331 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: Thank you Schmelk, because this is undoubtedly a fight. For 332 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: whatever reason, I still get into with people who are 333 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: like anti Eli Manning because those people still exist. And 334 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: you could tell somebody who doesn't fully grasp or didn't 335 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: understand the seasons. When you hear this sentence coming to out, 336 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 2: remember Eli Manning's defense. It's carried of the two Super Bowls, 337 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: not no nonsense. Super Bowl forty six, that whole run. 338 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: Eli Manning remains the only quarterback in NFL history to 339 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl with the dead last ranked run 340 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: game in football. They were thirty second in rushing offense 341 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: that year. The offensive line was not the same dominant 342 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 2: force it was in seven. Remember the forty nine er game. 343 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: How much he took a beating in and defensively while 344 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: they came on hot and came on strong. I mean 345 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: there were games late in near the Saint game where 346 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: are roles getting cooked behind him signing Chase Blackburn off 347 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: the street. They were so banged up with injury, they 348 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: didn't have dominant corner play. The defense was nothing special 349 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: in Super Bowl four, or at least that run. The 350 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: super Bowl forty six season, that is an Eli Manning 351 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: year to a t. But super Bowl forty two, I 352 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: think is also further prove schmol because the Giants continue 353 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: to own the Commanders as the Commanders oddly play these 354 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: games versus the Eagles tight, and we can't understand why 355 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: we always lose to the Eagles. On the flip side, 356 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: we're in football. Sometimes it's all about matchups. And for 357 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: whatever reason, you saw it in week seventeen and he 358 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: start in Super Bowl forty two, the team and the 359 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: roster that just may not have been the second best 360 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: team in football of the Patriots, but was their worst 361 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: possible matchup was that Giant team with the wave of 362 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: pass rush they could throw at them. 363 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: And tip your hat to Tom Coughlin too. This is 364 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: why Tom Coffin is going to be a Hall of Famer. 365 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: How many coaches can go out there and either out 366 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: scheme or scheme to a draw Bill Belichick. When Bill 367 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: Belichick has two weeks to prepare for you, you know, 368 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: Tom Cofflin is a very underrated schematic head coach. And 369 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 3: give Kevin Gilbrid credit in those games two and I 370 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 3: think Giant fans, who all they did was complain about 371 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: Kevin Gilbrid for years, I think people realize what they 372 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: had at him now when he was here, and those 373 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 3: guys do not give enough credit for coaching against Bill 374 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 3: Belichick in those games. When you ever you give Bill 375 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 3: Belichick two weeks to prepare for a team, he automatically 376 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: gets the advantage. That was not the case in these 377 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 3: games because the Giants had Tom Coughlin. 378 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 4: Yeah no, he was that good. 379 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 2: And by the way, two different defensive coordinators as well 380 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: helping him out there as well. 381 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 4: We've seen what Spags has done since leaving the Giants. 382 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: Of course, Perry Fuel in the second one, you're right 383 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: that that is completely on Coughlin. And by the way, 384 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: these teams have played some epic regular season games. Forget 385 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: that twenty eleven regular season game Jake Ballard with an 386 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: insane catch. 387 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 4: That team was missing guys. 388 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: Of course, I mentioned oh seven then, yet the Collins 389 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: dropped pick in twenty sixteen. I believe the last two 390 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: times the Giants beat the Pats on a never mind 391 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: that doesn't acount for ORO seven. I was gonna say 392 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: they went on to go to a Super Bowl, so 393 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: you'd never know nine to eight. Let's see if the 394 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: Giant team gets hot here with the veto. 395 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: On is want to add on twenty eleven one more thing. 396 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: Eli Manning's fourth quarter numbers that year are some of 397 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 3: the most insane things you'll ever see. I just brought 398 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 3: them up. This is just fourth quarters that year. Seventeen 399 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 3: hundred passing yards, fifteen touchdowns, six interceptions, nine point four 400 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: yards per attempt, and one hundred and ten quarterback rating. 401 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: That's just in fourth quarters. Yeah, in twenty eleven. 402 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know. 403 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: I think Zee was playing us off the stage here 404 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: at this point, schmeilk. But let me just add that, 405 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: if you want some free time, go watch Giants Cardinals 406 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: in twenty eleven, just the fourth quarter, and you'll get 407 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: a real appreciation for Eli Manning because that was the 408 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: fourth quarter comeback of all comeback stating here, but he 409 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: was just incredible. 410 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: No, absolutely, and just a lot of fun. 411 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 3: I think we're gonna get a close game this week, Marashus, 412 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 3: because I don't think either team's gonna be able to 413 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 3: score enough to run away. 414 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: But no down, So give me your feel. What is 415 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: this game gonna look like on Sunday afternoon? 416 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: Giants eight Patriots three? 417 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: Is that a safety or a two point conversion? In there? 418 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 4: We miss an extra point? 419 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: Little wind a shafety later, on the Giants win eight three. 420 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: How do they score the touchdown? 421 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 4: It is a running touchdown by Shaquan as they got 422 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 4: near the goal line and they can immediately miss the 423 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 4: extra point. 424 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: All right, there you have it, folks. Take out. 425 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: Our coverage tomorrow on Wfan of Giants and Patriots starts 426 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 3: at eleven am. 427 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: John Smel, Jonathan, you can see us. We will be 428 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: with you eleven. 429 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: Am at MetLife Stadium just inside the Metlifegate on the 430 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 3: MetLife Stage and Key Nicks will be joining us live. 431 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 3: We'll rumin us a little bit about twenty eleven. We'll 432 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 3: hear from Justin Tuck as well talk about the two 433 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 3: thousand and seven game. So a lot of fun stuff 434 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: tomorrow coming your way on Giants Game Day at eleven 435 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: a m. 436 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: Of course, make sure you stay. 437 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 3: Tuned to all of everything we do on our Giants 438 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 3: podcast network. You can find it on your Giants app 439 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: for Giants dot Com, Slash Podcast, Johns Total Podcast, Big 440 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 3: Book Kickoff Live, you name it, go check it out. 441 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: Thanks for being with us on Big Book Kickoff Live 442 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 3: on this Saturday, presented by Candilight, the official luxury vehicle 443 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 3: the New York Giants and Townfair tire nobody. Beat down 444 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 3: Fair Tire, Nobody. Hello, my name is Greg. 445 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: Coming up next,