1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome at everybody to the Clay Travis 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show Tuesday Edition. Thank you so much 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: for being here. We have a fantastic lineup for you today, 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: both stories and guests. We have Morando Divine, New York 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: Post columnist and author of Laptop from Hell, Hunter Biden, 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: Big Tech, and The Dirty Secret the President Tried to Hide. 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: That's coming at one o'clock one o'clock Eastern at two Eastern. 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: Abigail Schreier, Award winning journalist and author of Irreversible Damage, 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: The Transgender Craze Seducing our daughters. So we're gonna talk 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: about the trans issue. We have so much you get today. 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: You know, we were kind of hoping, as you know, 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: Clay and I've been talking to you for months about 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: what's going to actually happen in the in this winter period. 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: Is it actually going to be a period of rising 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: COVID cases rapidly? Will it be much less than what 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: we had seen last year? And you're seeing right now 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: that to borrow from Yogi Berra, in many ways in 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: terms of case count, it feels like deja vu, all 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: over again. You have New York. Just last night, I 21 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: was in a grocery store. Everybody masked. I forgot that 22 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: there's now a new mask mandate, so they don't check 23 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: your vaccine card I think in the grocery store. I 24 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: honestly can't even keep up with it anymore. They don't 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: check your vaccine card to go to the grocery store, 26 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: but they now make you mask. So people will be 27 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: masked in the grocery store, but then they'll go sit 28 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: in a restaurant for two hours or three hours unmasked, 29 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: because that makes a lot of sense because at least 30 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: the people are vaccinated in the restaurant. But we also 31 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: know you can still get it from vaccinated people, which 32 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: is why the caseload is getting so high. It's not 33 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: just the unvaccinated. I just spoke to a good friend 34 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: of mine yesterday Clay who's come out of being sick 35 00:01:54,680 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: with COVID for two weeks two weeks with fully vaccinated 36 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: right now. Didn't go to the hospital. So maybe you 37 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: can make some kind of a claim there, can We 38 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: just I want to address that Fauci is basically telling 39 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: everybody that this is just because the virus is worse 40 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: and the unvaccinated. And we should react to this because 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: it's California, New York, Philadelphia now vaccine mandate in effect 42 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: in January. Well, it doesn't because there are two things 43 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: that are converging here, Jim. One is we're dealing with delta. 44 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: We didn't have delta year ago. We're dealing with a 45 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: much more formidable virus in every respect super imposed upon that. 46 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: If we had optimally implemented a vaccine program, those numbers 47 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: would have been down. Those are many of them, not 48 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: all of them. Many of them are unnecessary deaths. Because 49 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: we have up to sixty million people in this country 50 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: who are eligible to be vaccinated. We've not gotten vaccinated. 51 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: We've got to be due better than that if we 52 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: really want to get this thing over with. These are 53 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: just lies. Okay, they keep talking, And I saw that 54 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: idiot Eric Swalwell tweet out. I'm sure you saw this 55 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: buck about how oh, we need a vaccine mandate in 56 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: order domestic travel. When Fauci says sixty million people are unvaccinated, 57 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: almost all of those people are kids and young adults. 58 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: Because the numbers, I'm looking at them right now, and 59 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: I don't know why more people don't talk about this. 60 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: The vaccines work in a very limited fashion at best. 61 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: They are not even I don't believe accurately described as vaccines. 62 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: They are a therapeutic. They do it appears provide some 63 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: protection in the event that you get COVID. But listen 64 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: to these numbers. Buck, and I don't know why they 65 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: don't get when they're talking about all the people who 66 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: are unvaccinated, why people don't fight back against this, because 67 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: the way they're defining unvaccinated, they're counting kids who are 68 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: under the age of five. Because here are the US 69 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: right now, sixty five and up at least one dose Buck, 70 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 1: ninety five percent. According to this most recent number, which 71 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: has actually come down a little bit at the New 72 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: York Times eighteen and up, what percentage of people who 73 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: are eighteen and up have had at least one vaccine 74 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: shot eighty four percent, eighty two percent of people who 75 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: are twelve and up. Buck, Even ages five and up, 76 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: seventy seven percent of people have gotten at least one shot. 77 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: When they talk about fully vaccinated, they're counting babies, They're 78 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: counting one year olds, two year olds. The people who 79 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: are most at risk are overwhelmingly vaccinated, tons of them 80 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: are boostered, and still we are setting these new records 81 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: because the COVID vaccine is not a vaccine, it is 82 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: a therapeutic, And so why they won't just say this 83 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: is incredibly frustrating. They told us Buck that if we 84 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: ever got to fifty and sixty percent of people being vaccinated, 85 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: that this would go away. It hasn't. And right now, 86 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: for eighteen and up, eighty four percent of the American public, 87 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: according to the New York Times data that I'm looking 88 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: at right at this exact moment, eighty four percent of 89 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: eighteen and up have had at least one shot. Does 90 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: anyone think that we were promised where we are right 91 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: now based on what they were saying about this six 92 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: months ago? I mean, would anyone even try to make 93 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: that case? Look at the extremes they have gone to 94 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: when it comes to mandating vaccines in a variety of fashions, 95 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: different places all across the country. The Biden administration putting 96 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: into place a federal mandate. As we know, this is 97 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: all now caught up in the courts, and there's different 98 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: ways that this is going to go from a legal 99 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: perspective in the weeks ahead. But Clay, they've gotten more 100 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: and more authoritarian as the results we've seen have been 101 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: less and less in line with what they told us 102 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: to justify the authoritarian impulse in the first place. I 103 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: actually think it's interesting. I believe it was Jared Polis, 104 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: the governor of Colorado, that's right, who said, look, you've 105 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: had the chance to get I'm not putting a mask 106 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: mandate in place. And he's a Democrat, everybody, in case 107 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: you don't know if this is a democrat at pretty 108 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: liberal democrat from what I understand. But he's also saying 109 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: it's on you know, the perspective now he's taking is 110 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: it's on you if you don't want to get vaccinated, 111 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: because this really is about personal protection now more than 112 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: it is about stopping the spread. You know, have to 113 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: be so careful as the narrative shifts. If you get 114 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: even a little bit, you know, if you say, oh, 115 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't stop spread, then they say you're putting out 116 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: disinformation because for a period of time it makes infection 117 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: and spread less likely. They don't know how long the 118 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: period is, they don't know how much less likely, but 119 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: at a macro level, it's clearly not stopping the entirety 120 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: of COVID spread among the from the vaccinated to everybody else. 121 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: That's obviously not the case. And so what are we 122 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: going to do about this? McClay. We're descending further and 123 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: further into the madness of what we've done before. I mean, 124 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: our friend Senator Rampaul, he's out there telling everybody, you 125 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: know what, this is not going to stop until they 126 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: can basically get your newborns the shot before they leave 127 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: the hospital. These people won't be happy until they get 128 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: your newborn. I mean, they really want to get your 129 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: newborn inoculated before they leave the hospital. They're going to 130 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: restrict certain things. You know, they're not going to dispense schooling, 131 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: but they're also going to try to get them before 132 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: they leave the hospital. I think it's outrageous and ignores 133 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: the science. This is a disease of the elderly, not 134 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: of children. And the thing is is that he's not 135 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: a banging size. He's sort of granting his impulse to authoritarianism. 136 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: His default position is always how can I control people? 137 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: How can I regulate people? I wish he was president, 138 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: or at least I wish he had the job that 139 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: Fauci has right now that doctor Rand Paul Covid emperor 140 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: the way Fauci is for all of us, think of this, 141 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: This little bureaucrat is the most singular and powerful voice 142 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: on this issue now through two administrations going on two years. 143 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: Why it's because people have attached a tremendous amount of 144 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: political and I would even argue emotional and psychological significance 145 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: to him. I think you're right on that, Buck, and 146 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: and to your point earlier, when you were talking about 147 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: all the restrictions New York, Philadelphia, much of the state 148 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: of California got a lot of listeners all over the place. 149 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: I want to I want to ask you this question. 150 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: Has there ever been a time in most of our 151 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: lives where where you are in the country makes more 152 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: difference as to what your life is like? Want you 153 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: to think about that now. I wasn't around, I wasn't 154 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: alive in the nineteen fifties, in the nineteen sixties when 155 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: you had separation of the races and different aspects associated 156 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: with that. I'm talking about for people like you and 157 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: me who are around you know, forty or fifty years old, 158 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: I can't think of a time where Buck, for instance, 159 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: for you, you get on an airplane in New York 160 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: City and when you fly down to Florida, which you're 161 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: going to do in a couple of weeks. The amount 162 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: of difference in what the world is like from New 163 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: York and the vaccine requirements and the masking and the 164 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: kids having to sit outside on stool socially distanced and 165 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: eat versus what's going on in Florida. I mean, I 166 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: look at some of the restrictions that are being put 167 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: in place, and I feel like I live in a 168 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: different country here in Tennessee than where you live right 169 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: now in New York City. It feels like that, and 170 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: it's going to feel even more like that as we 171 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: get deeper into the winter period here, because here's what's 172 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: going to happen. New York and California. I wish you know, California, 173 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: I believe has a statewide that's right morting like the 174 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: fifteenth I think December fifteenth, which is there was a place, 175 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, your guy knows a lot about 176 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: betting where we could just do this. Put your money 177 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: where your mouth is, so to speak. Will the mask 178 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: mandate bring down the case trend in any discernible fashion 179 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: in New Yorker, California. I would put whatever money I 180 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: could scrape together on the bet that it wouldn't. By 181 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: the way, I'm not trying to be flipping about the 182 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: fact that the case is arising. I'm just saying the 183 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: other side is wrong. They're wrong. They were wrong before, 184 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: they're going to be wrong again. It's not going to 185 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: do a darn thing, but it is indicative of the 186 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: anxiety and the craziess and well, what's right now. I'm 187 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: seeing more and more of people who are being told 188 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: even if they're in contact with someone who's COVID positive 189 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: and they test negative, they're still expected to quarantine. This 190 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: is the case now. I mean it's been the case 191 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: in Australia for a while, but some companies now I'm hearing, 192 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: are taking an increasingly aggressive posture on This is why 193 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,599 Speaker 1: I buck I went out yesterday. I think I'm the 194 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: first person to say this in regards to the world 195 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: of sports, the NBA, the NFL, Like for people out 196 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: there who are paying attention to these organizations, the NHL 197 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: that test regularly, they're about to have to shut down teams. 198 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: They're shutting down teams. They're all overwhelmingly vaccinated, double vaxed. 199 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: A lot of them are boostered up too. They're still 200 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: all testing positive for COVID. And I asked the question. 201 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm the first person that I've seen ask this question, 202 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: because it happened last night for Monday Night football. Why 203 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: in the world are young, healthy athletes with no symptoms 204 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: who test positive for COVID not being allowed to play sports. 205 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: I mean, the flu game for Michael Jordan is universally famous. 206 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: You can play right now if you have the flu. 207 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: Like the guys go and they're like, oh, do you 208 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: have the flu or you have COVID. Oh you have 209 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: the flu. You're fine to travel, You're fine to play. 210 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: You have COVID. Oh my god, you gotta go walk 211 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: yourself in your house for two weeks. I mean, this 212 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: is nonsensical, and we're gonna talk about this. 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I want 243 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: to say this, Buck, we're talking about COVID and how 244 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: much of a difference there is. I don't know that 245 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: there's ever been a time when there was a more 246 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: substantial difference between Let's say you're on a plane you 247 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: land in Florida and you're from New York, or you 248 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: hop on a plane in California and you fly to Texas, 249 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: where when you get off that plane, or vice versa, 250 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: there is a seismic difference in what life feels like. 251 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: The Red States are free, the Blue States are locking 252 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: down the Blue cities, and the media is continuing to 253 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: be wildly dishonest. I'm gonna keep hammering on this because 254 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm a Red state guy. I live in the SEC footprint. 255 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: I'm born and raised here. Buck. You know, during the summer, 256 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: they were the media out there crushing Texas and Governor 257 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: Greg Abbott crushing Florida and Governor Ron De Santis Tennessee, Alabama, 258 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: Louisiana Mississippi, all these different southern states, Arkansas, Missouri, South Carolina, 259 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: North Carolina, Georgia, trying to fit you all in there, 260 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: Kentucky to Missouri. All of these states had massively high 261 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: delta variant cases. And what did the media say, Look 262 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: at those stupid rednecks. Because I've been called a stupid 263 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: redneck my whole life, because I'm born and raised in Nashville, 264 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: and every Southerner knows that feeling. We get talked down too, 265 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: because we live in the Red States. All of the 266 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: mainstream media, New York, LA, all the elitists were saying, 267 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: look at these stupid, ignorant, redneck Trump voters. They're all 268 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: gonna die. All they need to do is be vaccinated, 269 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: and this story would go away. All of the red 270 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: state focus, all of the social an intellectual capital rained 271 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: down upon us, and we were all stupid. Listen to 272 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: this right now, Buck. The top states for COVID infection 273 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Maine, Michigan, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Vermont. The 274 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: top seven states all voted for Joe Biden. They have 275 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: by far the highest rates in the entire country. And 276 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: by the way, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Delaware are the next three 277 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: after Indiana. Of the top eleven, only one state is 278 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: a red state that has the highest rate of COVID. 279 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: Right now, are the people in the blue states being 280 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: blamed at all for the COVID rates? No, it isn't 281 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: occurring anywhere, Buck. There's a reason for that, Clay, Governor 282 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: Rhonda Santis must be super tired from running around all 283 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: those Blue states and doing whatever he does to spread 284 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: the COVID because I remember last summer when we were 285 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: told that Rhonda Santis was responsible for every COVID case, 286 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: every COVID hospitalization and death in his state of Florida, 287 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: so he must be responsible for it everywhere else. But obviously, folks, 288 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: it's insane right. What they were doing then is just 289 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: propaganda for Democrats. Even with health and lives at stake, 290 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: it didn't make a difference. They did not care. The 291 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: narrative was more important because Clay's point here is irrefutable. 292 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Clay, I would invite anyone anywhere, from any 293 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: network or just somebody who thinks they can make the 294 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: case to explain why COVID in the summer of twenty 295 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: twenty one in Flora is that governor's fault. But in 296 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: New York cases are skyrocketing. It's not Governor Huckel's fault. 297 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: In California, it's not Governor Newsome's fault. Why is that 298 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: they don't even have didn't even pretend to have an answer. 299 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: It's such a transparent why and falsehood, and you'll hardly 300 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: hear it discussed anywhere. I wanted to make sure we 301 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: hit it. What you got for us. If we've learned 302 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: anything since twenty twenty, there's nothing quite as important as 303 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: a powerful immune system. 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You're listening 320 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton fund the EIB network. 321 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: If you have happened to stumble upon CNN at any 322 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: point in the last welve months or so, there's a 323 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: very good chance. Doesn't matter what's going on. It doesn't 324 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: matter if space aliens have invaded and are shooting massive 325 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: destruction lasers at major US cities, they're probably covering the 326 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: January sixth insurrection. I mean that the chance of their 327 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: being quote insurrection. And as I've said, and I stand 328 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: behind this, anyone who really believed as an insurrection is 329 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: either lying or not very smart. In the CIA, I 330 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: know something about how cous go and don't And Clay, 331 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,239 Speaker 1: by the way, I just want to say thank you, 332 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: thank you, Oh sorry, welcome back to the clan and 333 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: Buck Show for everybody got distracted there for a second. 334 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: I was gonna tell everybody, we're on the clainon Buck Show, 335 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: and I know something about coups. And here's the situation. 336 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: They're holding this January sixth Insurrection day. They're holding this 337 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 1: day every day. They're trying to make it seem like 338 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 1: this is a constant for their audience, which is crazy, right, 339 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this is And they're also pushing this to 340 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: try to make it really hostile and difficult for Donald 341 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: Trump to run again, which he could well do and 342 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: people are expecting him to do. And they also want 343 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: to try to smear, undermine, and defame as many people 344 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 1: around Trump in his orbit Donald Trump Junior, name brand 345 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: or you know home, you know, household names what I 346 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: was trying to think of household names from Fox News 347 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: and others. They're trying to make them seem like they 348 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 1: were all in on it, and that's why they're subpoena 349 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 1: your phone records. There's a couple of big takeaways from this, 350 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: which is why we don't spend a lot of time 351 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: talking to the January sixth Insurrection because they want us 352 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: to give it air time. But I think they've actually 353 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: stumbled into something. These crazy Democrats on the committee have 354 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: stumbled into something that I believe is going to be 355 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: contra against their purposes, is going to contradict their overall narrative. 356 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: This is Liz Channey now, yes, she is technically a Republican. 357 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: This is Liz Channey out there now. I want to 358 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: note for everybody she is reading private text messages from 359 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: the floor of Congress as part of this January sixth 360 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: committee to humiliate people, which is and I don't think 361 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: she actually so fight. It doesn't work, it doesn't actually 362 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: have the intended purpose. But that's why she's doing it. 363 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: And we're gonna listen to this for seconds. You've got 364 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: to hear it, and then Clana are going to break 365 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: it down for you. Here's Liz Chenney. Mark. The president 366 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: needs to tell people in the Capitol to go home. 367 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: This is hurting all of us. He is destroying his legacy. 368 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 1: Laura Ingram wrote, please get him on TV, destroying everything 369 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: you have accomplished. Brian kill Me texted quote, can he 370 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: make a statement? Ask people to leave the capitol? Sean 371 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: Hannity urged as the violence continued. One of the president's 372 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:23,959 Speaker 1: Sons texted mister Meadows, quote, He's got to condemn this asap. 373 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: The Capitol Police tweet is not enough. Donald Trump Junior texted. 374 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: Meadows responded, quote, I'm pushing it hard. I agree. Still, 375 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: President Trump did not immediately act, so Buck. First of all, 376 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: Liz Cheney is a fraud, and she is doing exactly 377 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: what you said, trying to embarrass people by reading their 378 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: private text messages on the House floor. But I actually 379 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: think this makes Laura Ingraham, Brian kill me, Sean Hannity, 380 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: and Donald Trump Junior, who she all quoted from, look 381 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: better because the number one thing that they always try 382 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: to say about Fox News and Trump supporters is they're 383 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: a cult. They never criticize anything Donald Trump says or does. 384 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: But what you're seeing here with these texts to Mark 385 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: Meadows is that all of these people that have been 386 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: criticized for just being a member of a fascist cult. 387 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: You and I, by the way, also would have been 388 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: in that same criticism, are willing to say when things 389 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: are occurring that they disagree with, the President needs to 390 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: act here, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Bryant kill me, Donald 391 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: Trump Junior, And significantly, they're not running and hiding and 392 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: pretending that this didn't happen. This is the exact opposite 393 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: of what an insurrectionist would do. They're asking the insurrection 394 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: to be stopped. It's not in any way some sort 395 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: of hostile takeover of the government of the strongest advocates 396 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: and allies of the president are saying, hey, you need 397 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: to rein this in. It was also clearly not a 398 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: concerted effort from Trump and all of his top voices 399 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: and influencers around him to do this. This was exactly 400 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: you know how we are the defenders of reality here. 401 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: We are the the you know, the deputy mayors of Realityville. 402 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: We are telling people the truth, and we say this 403 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: was a riot that got out of control, which I 404 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: would have to note there were riots getting out of 405 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: control before this on a regular basis across the country, 406 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: for which Democrats not only did they not condemn it, 407 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: but they also in many cases were saying, you know, 408 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: this is the response of people when they're oppressed or 409 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: because of racial juice, to raise money to bail them out. 410 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: Buck Kamala was helping publicize the bail fund in Minneapolis, 411 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: and let's be very clear, Minneapolis, which just refunded its 412 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: police because of such an enormous increase in crime. Austin, 413 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: Texas refunded its police because of the all time record 414 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: for I believe, homicides and shootings in that city. These 415 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: are all after effects we've seen now, the results of 416 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: them making excuses for those riots and pushing for it. 417 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: But there's there's another component. This is Clay. You're spot 418 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: on with clearly our side. As soon as this happened, 419 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: I was tweeting. I rarely curse on Twitter. I try 420 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: to rarely curse in public in general people who know 421 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: me in private. No a little salt here, but I 422 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: try not to curse in my public stuff. I've never 423 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: heard you curse anywhere either, even when you're allowed, like 424 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: even on my podcasts. I don't. Anyway, I did curse 425 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: on Twitter that day because I was furious with what 426 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: that because they were hurting the movement, the Moner movement, 427 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: and they were hurting and honestly and they were you know, 428 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: they were hurting law and or they were. It was 429 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: a bad thing that happened that day, no question about it. 430 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: At that time, I thought, so you thought, so, Sean thoughts, 431 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: So Laura thought, I mean go down the line, We're 432 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: all like, what is this? Don't do this? Have a 433 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: hundred thousand people protest because you're concerned about not just 434 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: the election result, but how the election was conducted, which 435 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: is a completely legitimate concern rooted in facts and reality. 436 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: When you're talking about all the COVID changes they made 437 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: and the mail in ballots and all the rest of it. 438 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: Have that rallied one hundred thousand people, no question about it. 439 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: That's patriotic. Don't do what happened that day. Everyone listening 440 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: to this knows this. They've blown this up now on 441 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: the left to make it a much bigger deal than 442 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: it will, calling it a coup and insurrection. Really, you know, 443 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: QAnon Shaman was going to overrun and as you guard 444 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: the FBI, and you know, as you pointed out, none 445 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: of these guys are getting you wrote eloquently on this, 446 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: None of these guys are getting charged with treason or 447 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: insurrection or any of those things. If they really thought 448 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: that was the case, they would have charged them. And 449 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 1: the other part of this, though, is think about the 450 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: precedent that's being set here. Congress can decide with really, 451 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,719 Speaker 1: I mean, what is the oversight on this I mean, 452 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: maybe the court step in. But if you're expecting a 453 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: DC Circuit court to bail out your freedom, you know, 454 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: talk to the maligned patriot, you know, General Flynn about 455 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: how much you can trust DC judges to do the 456 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: right thing. But General Flynn deserves an apology times a thousand. 457 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: And what we see here, Clay, is Congress using its 458 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 1: powers to subpoena and take private These are private messages. 459 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: I understand these are phone to phone private message. And 460 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: how question for you fors people do and I'm curious 461 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: on this does and I don't know the answer. Does 462 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: the White House Chief of Staff have a cell phone 463 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: bill that's paid for by the federal government. I'm his 464 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: private cell phone. I think this would have been his 465 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: private self. I should check to be sure, to be clear, 466 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent, but I would assume that 467 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: he was that if a Fox News hosts, for example, 468 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: are texting him, it's probably his private phone. The reason 469 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: why the private phone number of play people in the 470 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: White House? Why would I call them on their government device? No, 471 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: I mean the reason why I'm asking is I understand 472 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: the discoverable aspects for public emails that you're sending to 473 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: somebody at a public email. But this seems like a 474 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: pretty expansive thing to get every text message that Mark 475 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: Meadows was sending and be reviewing. And I mean, that 476 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: seems like an expansive over my understanding of this, and 477 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: we should dig into this a little bit more, because again, folks, 478 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: I don't want to give too much oxygen to the 479 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: January six commission nonsense. Right, So this is this is 480 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: one of the rare occasions we're stepping in and it's 481 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: really to tell you that what they're telling you is 482 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of bullcrap, that this was an insurrection over 483 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: to the government, and also their overall thesis that Trump 484 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: was part of this conspiracy to overturn the results by 485 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: storming the capital all a lie, That's all a lie. 486 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: But Clay, I believe they're using subpoena power here the 487 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: same way when I used to write up subpoenas at 488 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: the NYPD for terrorism cases. I think that they're using 489 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: subpoena power here so they could get anyone's communications involved 490 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 1: in any way. I mean, this is why, I mean, 491 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: they're bringing in people from all over the place, and 492 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: and they're also running rough shot over privileged claims too, 493 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: which is that's what That's what I'm kind of getting at. 494 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: This is the chief of staff of the president. Uh. 495 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: And and we'll talk about this a little bit more. 496 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: But to your point, I think this is clearly designed 497 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: to embarrass people, and I don't think it works as 498 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: an embarrassment device. But it does raise a lot of 499 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: questions to me about what text messages should and shouldn't 500 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: be considered privileged and private when you're trying to run 501 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: the country. I mean, those are really interesting questions. Could 502 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: they I'm just wondering, you know, what it would be 503 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: appropriate off Louz Cheney from the same day started reading 504 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: some you know, I don't know, maybe some some very 505 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: friendly text message between Milani and the president at the time. 506 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: You know, they're husband and wife, right, I mean, I 507 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: could they do that just because they feel like? It 508 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: is that? Where is that the country we live in now? 509 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: That feels like secret police stuff? It does. It feels 510 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: really uncomfortable to me, Buck honestly. Uh. In the meantime, 511 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: instead of getting another big bill from Verizon at and 512 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: T and T Mobile, you know, the overpriced wireless carriers, 513 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: how about getting a new, lower price bill from Pure 514 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: Talk to company offering you a thirty dollars month plan 515 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: with unlimited talk, text and plenty of data. 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We're talking 533 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: about Liz Cheney making herself believe that she's making people 534 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: look bad by going through their text on January sixth, 535 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: and I actually think it makes Sean Hannity, Laura Ingram, 536 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: Brian Kilmeade, and Donald Trump Junior all look better. But 537 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: the larger context here, Buck, that I'm troubled by is 538 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: you're just allowed to go through private text messages and 539 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: examine them and decide to share them. Like, take away 540 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: politics from this for a moment, whatever you do. Would 541 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: you want everyone out there listening for someone to be 542 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: able to go through the text that you sent to 543 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: close family and friends on any given week on a 544 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: phishing expedition to see if there's something that they could 545 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: embarrass you from inside of your texts. This to me 546 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: seems to be in many ways a total fishing expedition 547 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: designed to embarrass people. Now, I think this particular aspect 548 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: has blown up in Liz Cheney's face because I think 549 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: a lot of you are like, yeah, that was good 550 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: for Brian Kilmeade and Donald Trump Junior and Sean Hannity 551 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,239 Speaker 1: and Laura Ingram for saying the same thing that you 552 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: and I were saying Buck on Twitter, which is do 553 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: not like leave right. We voted for Trump, we wanted 554 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: him to win, but this is not helping anything going forward. 555 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: I had the exact same opinion on the capital issues 556 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: as I did for months of riding that was going 557 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: on around this country, which is, you have a right 558 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: to share your political opinions. As soon as you commit 559 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: a crime, you should be arrested and prosecuted to the 560 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: fullest extent of the law, no matter what your politics are. 561 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: Submitted the January sixth committee, just who everyone knows, and 562 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: this was as of about two weeks ago. They have 563 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: submitted I think it's forty yeah, forty five individual subpoenas 564 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:11,239 Speaker 1: to uh sorry, subpoenas to individuals and organizations. I mean 565 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: they've got Mark Meadows, Cash Patel, who's a former Defense 566 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: Department official. He's a friend of mine. Steve Bannon, I know, Steve, 567 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: you go down this list of people, Um, if your 568 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: name was listed on the permit paperwork for the legal rally. 569 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: By the way, I mean, this is a this is 570 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: amazing by this standard, By this standard, Clay. Let's say 571 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: there was a or there have been things. For example, 572 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: there was the attack on the federal courthouse in Portland 573 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: that Antifa did during June or twenty twenty, or the 574 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: summer twenty twenty dam July or August. You can subpoena 575 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: the records of every person who was even involved, let's say, 576 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: in a non violent protest nearby that then spiraled into this. 577 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: You can pull their phone records, anybody listed on a 578 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: permit for the protests and go through their their personal 579 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: These are these are people's personal text messages. Because people 580 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: why couldn't you go through Like Kamala Harris helped to 581 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: raise money for butts for why couldn't you go through 582 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: every text message? She said? During the riots that took 583 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: place in the summer, Steve Bannon was in no way 584 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: working for the government at this time, and they've got 585 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: they've got his text messages. So I want to be 586 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: very clear, there's not it's it's intentionally a chilling effect. Here. 587 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: There's the smear aspect of it. I'm trying to embarrass people, 588 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: and really that the embarrassment should actually be reserved for 589 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: Congress here the Democrats all this January six committee and 590 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: Liz Cheney. It's appalling. You know what, one thing, Clay, 591 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: I've told you this all the time. I don't know 592 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: how people do this switch sides thing because they want 593 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: to be liked by fancy people and they want to 594 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: get a better book deal. I would just go do 595 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: another job, Like how could you be an adult who 596 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: has dedicated your life in politics to one cause and 597 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you decide, I'm it's it's 598 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: one thing to change your mind or opinions or to 599 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: just smear an attack, Like what is Liz Cheney doing? 600 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I know she's not even gonna be in 601 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: Congress much longer, most likely, but what is the purpose 602 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: the Lincoln the Lincoln Project and everything else? I mean, 603 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 1: but this is where my wife says, Buck, that my 604 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 1: superpower is I just don't care what anybody else thinks. 605 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: But it is a superpower. It is to a certain 606 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: extent of superpower. And when I say nobody else thinks, 607 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: I mean I care about the people that I'm responsible for, 608 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: my wife and my three boys inside of my house, right, 609 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: That's the people that I'm responsible for. Everything else is 610 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: just noise. And she also says the reason why I 611 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 1: don't need therapy is because I get to tell everybody 612 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: exactly what I think for three hours every day. And 613 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: at the end of this show, Buck, and I'm sure 614 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: you feel the same way. It's such an incredible privilege 615 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: in an era when everybody is so afraid to say 616 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: what they really think. For three hours, we get to 617 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: say everything we think. And then when I leave the studio, 618 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 1: when I'm finished with the show, I don't have any 619 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: weight on my shoulders because I said exactly what I think, 620 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: and people tell me. People see me after hours, like, 621 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: aren't your radio show host you don't talk to that much. 622 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, exactly. I just want to hang out now. 623 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: I just want to read books and be left alone. 624 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: Sarah from the Corrupt State of Colorado, that's what she 625 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: calls it. I actually haven't spent as much time in 626 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: Colorad was like, um, morning, I wanted to see your 627 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: comments on polish Um. I believe his map working the 628 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: vaccine mandate is because he's depth re election and his 629 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: approval rating has been dropping. I believe he's wearing his 630 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: sheepskin clothing again. It may well be true, Sarah, But 631 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: remember Polis, and thank you for the call. Great state 632 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: of Colorado, my my wife is the beautiful states in 633 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: the country. Oh man, it's beautiful, But I would say 634 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: this buck Polis. Also, remember we talked about this said 635 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: at the time that he was going to refuse to 636 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: put a mask mandate on because if you looked at 637 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: the data and compared it with New Mexico, there was 638 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 1: no difference between Colorado and New Mexico. This is this 639 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: is very important. Actually, are the purple states trending our 640 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: way even with Democrats governors or Democrat govern with Michigan 641 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: for sure, and that's a blue I mean, well, no, 642 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: that's the purple state, I guess, but it's got a 643 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: blue governor. And they're they're looking at looking at this now, 644 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: and I think they're realizing, Clay, they're gonna be held 645 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: to account if we have blue states on lockdown and 646 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: red states going through life pretty normally. And the numbers 647 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 1: show that once I was right, the other was wrong. 648 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 1: Let's all hope more coming up. 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