1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 6 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: my name is Noah. 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 3: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 3: super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: are you. You are here. That makes this the stuff 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 3: they don't want you to know. Heads up, fellow conspiracy 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: realist friends and neighbors, this one might not be for 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: all the conspiracy kiddos. This episode may contain, at times 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: graphic depictions of abuse. Well, that's right, we are returning 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 3: to one of the most well known trafficking cases in 15 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: recent Western history. We're recording on Monday, August eleventh, twenty 16 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 3: twenty five. Actually it's six years almost to the day 17 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 3: of Jeffrey Epstein's death in prison. 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it is in a lot has been happening 19 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: in the news. Oh, it's a big deal. It's also 20 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: probably don't worry about it. 21 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 4: Sorry. 22 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: Well even well, that's the crazy thing. So many people 23 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: are talking about this still. And if you've looked on 24 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: your social media feeds, you have likely seen if you're 25 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: listening to this show, at least you have seen that 26 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: people won't stop talking about it. 27 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 4: A bit of a right hot topic. 28 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly six years on and this won't go away. 29 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 3: It's quite the opposite, right, Instead of fading into the 30 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: background or becoming something on niche internet forums, questions about conspiracy, 31 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: corruption and cover ups related to Epstein's financial activities and 32 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: the sexual abuse ring continue. And like you were saying, no, 33 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: if anything, there's a resurgence in public concern due to 34 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: recent still unfolding events. So what exactly is going on? 35 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 4: Folks? 36 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 3: Please keep in mind that several things are in flux 37 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: at the moment we're recording this. New information is emerging 38 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: seemingly every few days. So we're going to explore what's 39 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 3: out there now, what is suspected to come to light 40 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: in the future, And of course we have to also 41 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: acknowledge we may have to do yet another update, depending 42 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: on which way the courts and the prison systems go. 43 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: Oh, that is a sure thing. I think there's gonna 44 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 2: be another Maxwell episode for sure, and probably another Epstein episode. 45 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: It's especially intense right now because a lot of the 46 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: people who voted for the current president wanted to know 47 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 2: answers to this stuff, and that organization, that group of 48 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: people said hey, we'll get you answers. And the answers 49 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 2: that are coming back don't feel very right. 50 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 4: At the very least, they're underwhelming. 51 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: And we'll get to all that and more. But first 52 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 3: we'll take a word from our sponsors and we'll give 53 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 3: a quick recap. For anybody who's saying, huh Epstein, Epstein, Epste, 54 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: the name sounds familiar. Here are the facts, all right. 55 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 3: We have a full deep dive series into the early 56 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 3: life and career of Jeffrey Edward Epstein. From now, maybe 57 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 3: we just do a quick recap before we get into 58 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 3: the latest events. 59 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: He's just a guy that had a really powerful father 60 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: in lawhelps. 61 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's born on January the thirtieth of nineteen fifty three. 62 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 5: Epstein taught at the Dalton School before the very prestigious 63 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 5: Dalton School. Before leaving in nineteen seventy six, he was 64 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 5: in fact dismissed. I don't know if we have any 65 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 5: details around that, but he went to work in finance 66 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 5: first with the very prominent banking concern bearst yarns or 67 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 5: brokerage concern. I guess before creating his very own company. 68 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: His rolodex included titans of industry, politicians of every imaginable stripe, celebrities, athletes, 69 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: royalty of course. And one of the reasons these folks 70 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: would say he was so popular with him is because 71 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 3: he had an expertise. Like you all, how you were saying, 72 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 3: he set up his own company. His company specialized in 73 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: what we'll call tax avoidance, a legal gray area. He 74 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: would review the financials of these high powered clients who 75 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 3: would find ways to save the money, and his payment 76 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 3: would be like his viig, his commission would be a 77 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: percentage of those tax savings. Now, there are a lot 78 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 3: of questions about that, even before he was disgraced, because, 79 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 3: as history in the courts would later prove, at least 80 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: some portion of his high powered clients were not just 81 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 3: using him as a financial advisor. He was also the 82 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: leader of an intensely sophisticated international sexual abuse ring targeting 83 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 3: young women and children, and with the knowing participation of 84 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 3: at least some of his powerful associates, that is simply factual. 85 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 5: I was about to say, this is one of the 86 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 5: rare cases where we can say this is without conjecture. 87 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 4: These are confirmed facts. 88 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Just to get back to why is the sky 89 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: popular with rich and powerful people. He has the kind 90 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: of money that rich and powerful people wish they had. 91 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: He has the kind of money that you can buy 92 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: one of the Virgin islands, you can buy little Saint 93 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: James Island. This dude is an island owner. He's got 94 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: that kind of money, right, So he can help you 95 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: save money, invest money, prevent those taxes, all that stuff. 96 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: He can maybe help you do that and maybe one 97 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: day you could be an island owner. 98 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 4: Would be nice. 99 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And at least that's a good point. At least 100 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: some cases his clients had aspirational relationships. His finances were 101 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: always tremendously opaque, as were the finances of his longtime 102 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: partner and accomplice, Glinn Maxwell, who is herself currently convicted 103 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: and incarcerated, although authorities recently relocated her to a different facility, 104 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 3: which we'll get to in a moment. So if we 105 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: look at the criminal side, the revelations long coming about 106 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 3: this sexual abuse ring, will see that it had been 107 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: an open secret in certain parts of society and perhaps 108 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: in certain parts of law enforcement for decades. Police did 109 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: initially investigate Epstein in two thousand and five. This led 110 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: to a extremely shady conviction in Florida. In two thousand 111 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: and eight, he's convicted of We talked about this in 112 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: our previous episodes. He's convicted of two charges procuring a 113 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 3: child for prostitution quote and solicitation quote. So he gets 114 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: this plea deal that has him serving less than thirteen 115 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: months in quote unquote custody. And there's a reason we're 116 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: saying custody and quotes there, because he was barely ain. 117 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 4: In gen Pop. 118 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: No, he's barely in the jail. He goes to his 119 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 3: nearby personal office on a routine basis constantly. And the 120 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 3: people who helped engineer this plea deal later have some 121 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: really really great things happen to them politically and in 122 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: their careers. Is not in gem pop. Sentence concludes. He 123 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: goes on his way until July sixth, twenty nineteen, he 124 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: is again arrested, this time on federal charges for sex 125 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: trafficking in both Florida and New York. We've got more 126 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: of the details on that. Again, this is just the 127 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: recap because less than a month later, August tenth of 128 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 3: that year and a day ago today, as we record, 129 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: Epstein dies in his jail cell. The official cause of 130 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: death remained suicide by hanging. But then and now we 131 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 3: your faithful correspondents and millions of others had serious questions 132 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: about that ruling. I don't think there were crazy questions either. 133 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk a little more about the special treatment 134 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: that he got, because we noticed over all these episodes 135 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: we've been making that this dude got special treatment, whether 136 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: it's from the courts or just hanging out in the 137 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: prison when he was incarcerated. Even this last time, when 138 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: he was hanging out at the place where he was 139 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: the Metropolitan Correctional Center, in the special housing unit, he 140 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: was allowed to do things like take a cell phone 141 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,119 Speaker 2: and make a call that is not monitored from the showers, 142 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,119 Speaker 2: and he was allowed to do this by the corrections 143 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: officers there. 144 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 4: And he'd been in his prison wallet or anything. 145 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: No, but that's the kind of thing that is highly questionable, 146 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: kind of thing probably shouldn't be allowed to happen, period. 147 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 5: And it's like one of the things too, where the 148 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 5: conversation around that there was very little conversation, at least 149 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 5: from officials as to this being considered special treatment at all, 150 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 5: Like it's just odd, and it's stuff like this that 151 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 5: I think makes all of us sort of call into 152 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 5: question the nature of justice and the quote unquote justice 153 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 5: system and how it is absolutely not a level playing field. 154 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and special treatment is something that's going to 155 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: come up again and again in these updates because as 156 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: we're recording now, Maxwell Galaine, Maxwell not Robert Backtwell, so 157 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: what we call foreshadowing, was convicted on five of six 158 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: counts against her in court, and she was convicted in 159 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: December twenty twenty one. There's an upcoming second criminal trial 160 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 3: for two other charges of lying under oath. Because as 161 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: we know, with a lot of conspiracies, it's not the 162 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 3: original conspiracy that sometimes trips people up. It's the cover 163 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 3: up of that conspiracy, you know, capone and tax fraud, 164 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: and we. 165 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 5: Certainly know Maxwell did and was party two horrible things. 166 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 5: But there's a part of it, I think all of 167 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 5: us that maybe looks at her as a bit of a. 168 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: Fall guy, and as terrible as it is to admit, 169 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 3: stories like these can often disappear from the news. The 170 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: legal proceedings continue as lawyers and the courts go back 171 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: and forth, but public interest, you know, is always mercurial. 172 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 3: The twenty four hour news cycle is relentless, so unfortunately 173 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 3: a lot of things get forgotten. But there's something, guys, 174 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 3: there's something about the Epstein scandal that gave it serious 175 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 3: staining power. Part of it is the inarguable innocence of 176 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: the victims, the nature of the crimes, and another part 177 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 3: of it is Epstein and his associates were some of 178 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 3: the most powerful people on the planet. 179 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I remember specifically when it came up that 180 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: potent actually British Royalty was hanging out with Epstein on 181 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: the island, spending time there with him and with the 182 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: other people who went to that island, and hearing about 183 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton and going out there. I mean, 184 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: these are intensely powerful people, and just the questions about 185 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: why on earth they would be there, and you just 186 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: want to know more when you hear something like that, right, 187 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: like why are they there? Was it just business dealings? 188 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 2: Like why are they there? 189 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 5: And like when everyone's there, it stops even being like 190 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 5: mudslinging material at a certain point, which I think speaks 191 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 5: to the whole hush hush ness of it all, and 192 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 5: people not using it as political capital as much as 193 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 5: you might think they would. 194 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 4: It's true. 195 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: Public interest absolutely did not erode, it didn't go away. 196 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 3: Weirdly enough, a typically divided public, especially the United States, 197 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: seemed to finally agree on something, even if it was 198 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 3: only this one thing. The Epstein scandal was, in everyone's opinion, 199 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 3: becoming a cover Upjournalists have been investigating the case for years, 200 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 3: even as Uncle Sam, through various institutions, claimed over and 201 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 3: over again the story is done. The official conclusion is true. 202 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 3: Epstein took his own life in prison. There's no such 203 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: thing as an Epstein client list, meaning there's no secret 204 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 3: list of associates who provably participated in child sexual abuse 205 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 3: with Epstein's assistance. The public isn't buying it, and we 206 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: can count ourselves among the public here. I think call 207 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 3: us biased if you must, but there's good reason to 208 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: be suspicious. And there's this huge discrepancy between what institutions 209 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: and the powerful and the public are saying, and it's 210 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: never been more starked. Even multiple presidents of the United 211 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: States of America, the current one included, are not a 212 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 3: mute concern over the unfolding Epstein scandal has already caused 213 00:12:55,559 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: serious fractures in the once monolithic MAGA voting base. What 214 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: do you say, guys, Should we get into the updates? 215 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 3: Should we see what new information has come to light? 216 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's so much. 217 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm glad that wasn't a hard No, I'm glad 218 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 3: no one got to any of us. 219 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't look over here. It's likely they opened the 220 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: door just for a second, you know, just a couple 221 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: of inches, and you saw a blazing fire in there, 222 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: and there's smoke billowing out of that tiny little crack 223 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: in the door, and there's a. 224 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 5: Dog sitting at a table saying this is fine, everything's fine. 225 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 2: Well yeah, but then they slammed the door shut. They're like, no, no, no, no, no, 226 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 2: everything's fine, everything's fine. Don't look in there. Everything's fine. 227 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: I see it as I see it as the allure 228 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: of a door marked private or employees only, with the 229 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 3: worst stuff behind it. 230 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: And there's like blasting music coming from behind that door. 231 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: You're like, what's going on in there? 232 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 3: And and now you know, you say, hey, what's behind 233 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: the door, and they're saying, there's not a door there. 234 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: This is so Orwellian. We're gonna pause for a word 235 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: from our sponsors, and then let's dive in. Here's where 236 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 3: it gets crazy. What new information has come to light 237 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 3: A lot, actually, so much so that we probably can't 238 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 3: get to all of it, so much stuff that we're 239 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 3: not just seeing a rash of new information emerging, we 240 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: are also seeing a pattern emerging, a meta like a 241 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 3: meta pattern. There's an escalation in the pattern of reporting. 242 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: It's almost certain that more will come to light after 243 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: we record. In fact, we've been researching this up to 244 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 3: the minute, and we're going to check for more developments. 245 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: We're going to check live for more developments before we 246 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: wrap this episode. And here's the thing. At every single turn, 247 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 3: these developments add more fire to public skepticism, conspiratorial conjecture, 248 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 3: and honestly, they make the motivations of the government and 249 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: the powerful seem more and more suspicious. Because so much 250 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: of all right right now, folks, depay on where you 251 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: are in the world right now. A ton of the 252 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: current Epstein coverage is focusing on accusations that the current potus, 253 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: Donald J. Trump, may have participated to some degree or 254 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: another in financial and or sexual crimes with Jeffrey Epstein. 255 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: I mean, yes, I don't know where you guys are 256 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: seeing this on the news, but it's all over social media. 257 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: Like Matt said earlier, it's over a lot of news 258 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: networks even now, and people are beat me here, Deli. 259 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: People are talking about it across the Pacific Ocean. It's 260 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 3: one of the main things getting reported about Donald Trump. 261 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 262 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, you've got a sitting president who says public 263 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: statements on a plane about how this guy that everyone 264 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: is talking about and everyone is concerned with and still 265 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: feeling some type of way about. You have the president 266 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: saying things about him and about a direct connection to 267 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: his place of business, right well. 268 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 4: To saying that he's a great guy. 269 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: Well, but also saying that, yeah, this guy was taking 270 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: people directly out of. 271 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 4: My spa, right And yes is the term I believe 272 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: he used. 273 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, I mean, how is that not going to 274 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: be a major deal that needs to be addressed fully 275 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: and publicly. 276 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 5: Well, I'm sure we'll get to it in a bit too. 277 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 5: But every time he opens his mouth about this stuff, 278 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 5: he sort of skews the timeline not in his favor. 279 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 5: Because he had a public sort of falling out that 280 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 5: was acknowledged and documented, and then this most recent statement 281 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 5: about the SPA situation didn't align with that original statement 282 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 5: about the falling out. 283 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: No, there's a lot of stark contradiction and easily disproving 284 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: falsehoods in these statements or you know what, you could 285 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 3: call him misstatements if you want, or you can say 286 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 3: certain things, yeah, maybe certain things, or take it out 287 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: of context. But the simple word for that is lie. 288 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 3: The simple phrase is lie in your ass off. That's 289 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 3: a technical phrase. 290 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 291 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: But and it's funny how all of this goes back 292 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: to what the hell happened to Jeff free Epstein in 293 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: that cell on that day? 294 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 4: Right? 295 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: It all goes back to did he actually take his 296 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 2: own life? Or did somebody go in there and take 297 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: his life? 298 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: I hear you. I think that's a pivotal moment. But 299 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of the Trump stuff is 300 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: what they were doing before then. But we do have 301 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 3: to get to the cell. 302 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: Don't you see those things as connected? Guys, at least 303 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: in the public zeitgeist of like, well, if he didn't 304 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 2: take his life and this sitting president actually was in 305 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 2: some way deeply connected more so than we are aware of, 306 00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: then wouldn't that call into question what occurred, especially because 307 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: it happened under Donald Trump's first term. 308 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's your wood me'ure would well. 309 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: Then, Also, the question is what would happen to the 310 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 3: dead man's switch that we mentioned earlier, which we'll have 311 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: to get to with Glaine as well, what other powerful 312 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 3: people were involved, because the current president of the United 313 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 3: States is first just one of the presidents who's been 314 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 3: you know, alleged to have participated in the abuse ring, 315 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 3: and also a lot of other powerful people that were 316 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: alleged to have participated whose names we don't really know, 317 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: because a lot of powerful people move in silence, right, 318 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 3: and privacy is one of the biggest parts of their fortune. 319 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: Absolutely, there are so many powerful people that may want 320 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: to stop Jeffrey Epstein from being able to talk right, 321 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: which is one of the biggest things. Are a lot of 322 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 2: people that might want to do that. The reason why 323 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: I think Donald Trump is so important in all of 324 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 2: that is because he and his administration they have all 325 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 2: the people with the power, with the access to all 326 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: the stuff to be able to prove absolutely, okay, this 327 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: man killed himself in his cell, right, and they made 328 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: a big deal about it the administration, they made a 329 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: huge deal about proving it to the public, to everybody 330 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: that this man fully took his own life and that 331 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: is absolutely the end of the story. But in their 332 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: attempts to do that, we get things like this official 333 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 2: raw videotape. 334 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 3: Ah. Yes, yes. In July of this year, twenty twenty five, 335 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 3: the DOJ that's the Department of Justice here in the States, 336 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: and the Federal Bureau of Investigation that's the FBI released 337 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: what the DOJ said is the full raw surveillance footage 338 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: on the only functioning camera near Epstein's cell the night 339 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 3: before he was found dead. This came about as part 340 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 3: of the the presidential administration's earlier campaign commitment when they said, look, 341 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: during the second Trump campaign, we're going to fully investigate 342 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 3: this death. We're going to determine whether it was actually suicide, 343 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: and we're going to put to bed any ongoing conspiratorial 344 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: speculation that he may have been murdered or somehow forced 345 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: to take his own life. But here's the thing, oh, 346 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 3: friends and neighbors, it turns out that video was neither 347 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 3: raw nor was it full. And just to be clear, 348 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 3: this is it's never been a matter of video footage 349 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 3: pointing into the cell. It's a static shot of the 350 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: wholeway near or outside of the cell. And they did 351 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: share these files, but they I guess they didn't think 352 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: anybody else knew about metadata. 353 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 2: Well yeah, well, let let's talk about the placement of 354 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: the camera first of all, because I think this is 355 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 2: massively important. There's a central common area in this thing 356 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: called the special Housing unit where Jeffrey Epstein was. There 357 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 2: are three wings attached to this common area, and there 358 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: are three sets of stairs that each lead up to 359 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: a group of eight cells and down to a group 360 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 2: of eight cells, and Jeffrey Epstein was located in the 361 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: closest to the right, in one of those upper cell blocks, 362 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: so the upstairs ones. The camera angle that we have 363 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:32,479 Speaker 2: is around the corner, obscured by a wall, and you 364 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 2: can see a tiny, tiny sliver We're talking several pixels 365 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 2: worth of the staircase on one side, and that's what 366 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: we get to see. So everything we're about to talk 367 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: about is everything that occurs in the central area, the 368 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 2: common area there, and then a sliver of the staircase. 369 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 5: So already not in the best angle for like picking 370 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 5: up a potential escape route for an individal jewel who 371 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 5: would have, you know, an assassin or whatever you want 372 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 5: to call. 373 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's real, better than nothing. 374 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 2: And to add to that, there's a camera on the 375 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 2: opposite wall of that common area that if it was 376 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: on and recording and we had that tape, you could 377 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: see the entrance to the facility, because right now you 378 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 2: can't even see the entrance to the freaking cell block area. 379 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: And you and if you had that camera, you would 380 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 2: be able to see the staircase almost in full, and 381 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 2: you'd be able to see the door to the cell 382 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: where Epstein was. So like the fact that that camera 383 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 2: wasn't recording. And there are also cameras at the end 384 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: of each wing on both levels, and none of those 385 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 2: cameras we don't have any of the footage from those 386 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: cameras either. 387 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 5: Right, and the one we do have that was already 388 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 5: kind of whack in its placement. It's not the full 389 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 5: and unedited as you mentioned, which we will get to. 390 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 5: The metadata point is. 391 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: Crucial, Matt. All of it is crucial because it's just 392 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: it is soh suspect from the jump. 393 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 3: Right even to the placement of Epstein in a particular 394 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 3: cell versus another one. 395 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: Look. 396 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 3: Journalist and analysts are all over these files, and there 397 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 3: was some great reporting and wired about this that everyone 398 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 3: should check out. Journalists were contacted by some video analysts 399 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: who were already deep in the Epstein world who had 400 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: done their own research on this stuff. And you can 401 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 3: see this video file, or you could when they originally 402 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: released it on official government websites. The metadata revealed that 403 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 3: something was missing. At first, it looked like a single 404 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 3: minute of tape, and we reported on that in a 405 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 3: strange news program. Now it looks like nearly three minutes 406 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: are gone from the tape overall. Because the video was 407 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: stitched together in Adobe Premiere Pro from two separate video files. 408 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: It was saved multiple times. I remember texting you guys 409 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 3: about this on our group chat. How Like, anybody who 410 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 3: knows about editing knows that the file Dave was probably 411 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 3: like something like Epstein final Dash four Dash two Dash 412 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: final Dash final one dash this one. 413 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 5: And it has the feel and vibe of the kind 414 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 5: of thing that was turned around last minute. 415 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels a bit amateurist, does it not. It 416 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 3: was exported, it was uploaded doj website the source clips 417 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 3: stitched together. Do you have some overlap. One of the 418 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: source clips is about two minutes and fifty three seconds 419 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 3: longer than the segment included in the final video, which 420 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 3: indicates the footage appears to have been trimmed before release. 421 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 3: And remember when we talked, we talked about the original 422 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 3: missing minute story. I definitely wanted us to take pain 423 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 3: to point out that Attorney General the AG Pam Bondi 424 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 3: was attributing what she called a missing minute to a 425 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 3: nightly system reset. And we had I think an invigorating 426 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 3: conversation about legacy technology and how odd it is that 427 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 3: a system would reset and miss a minute in a 428 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 3: world where you know, the average civilian, without spending too 429 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 3: much money, can just get alarm system that is always 430 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 3: on and sends live video to your phone. You know, 431 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: I think that all hit us, as our pouse Chuck 432 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 3: would say, as something hinky. 433 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 2: It all smells of controlled information and plausible deniability to me, 434 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 2: because ultimately the Department of Corrections has that tape, right, 435 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: the people who run that facility. Then let's say the 436 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: Department of Justice and the FBI come to them to 437 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: get that stuff from them. Now they only know what 438 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 2: the Department of Corrections know and shows them right, and 439 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 2: then those departments go back and they talk to you know, 440 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 2: the the administration and the people who are actually talking 441 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: about this, like Pambondi, And it feels as though something 442 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: is being protected at the lowest level so that people 443 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: above don't have to know exactly what happened. 444 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 3: I would agree with that, Yeah, because our next question 445 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 3: is could it be that Bondie and her team were 446 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: simply mistaken kind of a fog of war developing events situation, 447 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 3: or could it be yeah, managed information control to create 448 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 3: a sphere of plausible deniability. I almost said I almost 449 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 3: said diabolic and die. Diabolic ability. Diabolic ability. That sounds 450 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 3: like someone's sick nineteen nineties backpack rapper name right, Hell yeah, 451 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 3: polic ability. 452 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 5: Like like like they'd be hanging out with Immortal Technique 453 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 5: or something one hundred percent. Yeah, Hey, take your hand 454 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 5: off that dead man switch or leave it on, whatever 455 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 5: works for you. 456 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 4: We're going to take a quick break. 457 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 5: You're a word from our sponsor, and then come right 458 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 5: back with more of this conversation. 459 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 4: And we're back. 460 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 2: Because CBS News did a massive investigation into this tape. 461 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,239 Speaker 2: They recreated the entire cell block with the camera and 462 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: the viewable area of the camera. They tracked it second 463 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: by second, and they show after they created this entire thing, 464 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 2: After they showed it to numerous experts like Jim Stafford, 465 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 2: who's a forensics video expert, he has his own company 466 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: that does this stuff X L EO of several other people, 467 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 2: they come away with conclusions that this video tape that 468 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 2: is that was released, that is the end all be all, 469 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: this is what happened. Absolutely nobody could get in there. 470 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: It is fully false. It is fully false to conclude 471 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: that nobody went up into Epstein's cell during the night 472 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 2: from that radio because you literally cannot see if anyone did. 473 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's idiotic that that footage is missing. It's idiotic 474 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 5: that that footage is missing. If it's sloppy, it's the 475 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 5: worst kind of negligence. And I just have no patience 476 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 5: for this argument. 477 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 3: Well, it's just to check a box. Really, it's meant 478 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 3: to be able to say, yes, we're being fully transparent 479 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 3: and here's what we have, but doing it with such 480 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 3: imposed constraints that you don't really have to give anything up. 481 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 3: And we're using our language very carefully here. Because I 482 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 3: think we all saw that the CBS investigation, and they're 483 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: saying you you cannot use the doctor stitched together tape 484 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 3: as some kind of statement that says absolutely no one 485 00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: went into Epstein's cell because that tape. Fundamentally, even if 486 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 3: it didn't have its missing segments, that tape wouldn't have 487 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 3: been much help determining that in the first place. 488 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's. 489 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: Controlling the Overton window and it's decision treeing people pretty effectively. Actually, well, yeah, 490 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 3: just the. 491 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: Fact that the thing aspect ratio changes in this video, 492 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: I mean, that doesn't happen if you've got a raw 493 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: video feed from the same camera through the same system. 494 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: The aspect ratio is what it is, and it's not 495 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: gonna change unless somebody altered it a little bit, which 496 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: speaks to the screen grab situation. If you screen grab 497 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: something at a slightly different size, it's gonna have a 498 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: different aspect ratio. If you use a camera to record 499 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: a screen right to capture that video footage, maybe your 500 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: camera moved a little bit at some point. That's why. 501 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: Maybe that's what it is, guys. Maybe it's that simple. 502 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: Maybe somebody set up their phone camera and recorded a 503 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 2: screen and they bumped the camera just slightly right. So 504 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 2: then they are, oh, crap, we can't do that, can't 505 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: show them that. Well, but maybe if we stitch these 506 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 2: two together we can make it look like there. It's 507 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: the raw footage which goes seriously. 508 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 3: Right, which goes to Nole's point about sloppiness. You would 509 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 3: expect there would be a couple brighter crayons in the 510 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 3: conspiracy box. 511 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 5: I here aif got you can, I just as a lark, 512 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 5: was on Instagram and somebody sent me a picture and 513 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 5: a new prompt came up edit picture with AI and 514 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 5: I did, like, put cowboy hat on the dog and 515 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 5: remove the chest of drawers, and it did it in 516 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 5: two seconds and it looked seamless. How easy would it 517 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 5: be to aiifi a low res image to make it 518 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 5: look convincing and not have all that sloppy metadata crap leftover. 519 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 3: Well, that's that's the thing. I think that comes up 520 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 3: again to the sloppiness, which leads as to, you know, 521 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 3: the greater conversation the public. I think it's safe to 522 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 3: say the majority of the public did not have the 523 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 3: reaction the administration wanted with this tape debacle. Instead of 524 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 3: quelling the fire of speculation, it added more octane to 525 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 3: the bonfire because this revelation arrives amid an incredibly tense 526 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: pre existing political climate. You know, the supporters and allies 527 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 3: of the current US president never forgot the Epstein scandal, 528 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 3: even when the news cycle tried to move on. Instead, 529 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 3: they kept speculating intensely about the possible disclosure of new 530 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 3: damning evidence regarding Epstein's death. His activities before his demise 531 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 3: was it was the you know, the son of Pizzagate. 532 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 3: It was a new iteration of cleaning out the swamps. 533 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: So when the DOJ, in the days leading up to 534 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 3: the the tape debacle, when they issued a memo say 535 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 3: there was no such thing as an incriminating clients list, 536 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 3: and they reaffirmed the official suicide story, people already had 537 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 3: gone past the point of questions. Now people were reacting 538 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 3: with reverse psychology, and they were thinking anything the DOJ 539 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 3: or FBI says, so it doesn't exist, must exist. 540 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 4: Right percent. 541 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 5: And it's interesting because this is an administration and a 542 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 5: candidate or a political individual who has weaponized conspiracy theories 543 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 5: in such a palpable and meaningful way that have moved 544 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 5: numbers and you know, one over you know, whole swaths 545 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 5: of the population to the point where he got elected twice. 546 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 5: Whatever you think about the you know, the legitimacy of 547 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 5: those elections, and now to see that focus turned on 548 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 5: him and to see the way he reacts to that 549 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 5: and just sort of brushing it away, whereas anything he 550 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 5: was focusing on others, it was so easy to just say, oh, no, 551 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 5: this conspiracy thing is actually true. But when it's reversed, 552 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 5: then all of a sudden, no, this is just conspiracy theorizing. 553 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 5: None of this holds any water. It just starts to 554 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 5: really erode credibility in a very meaningful way. And when 555 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 5: you start seeing the base that was so ramped up 556 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 5: by a lot of this conspiracy theorizing turning, you know, 557 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 5: something's a little off. 558 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, but there's the thing that's really arguing me 559 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 2: is that there's no conspiracy theory here. 560 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 4: There is. He says there is. 561 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 5: It calls it the Epstein conspiracy nor the fraud hoax, 562 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 5: I believe is the term that he likes to use. 563 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 2: You're absolutely right, guys. I'm still stuck on the video. 564 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 2: There's that moment that we keep talking about where there's 565 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: a missing minute. One of the staff members leaves during 566 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: that missing minute. Isn't that pretty important that a human 567 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 2: being that was on duty from four pm to midnight 568 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: finishes shift and left, But we don't get to see that. 569 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 2: And the fact that the Bureau of Prisons and the 570 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 2: FBI and the Department of Justice's Office of Inspector General 571 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 2: all have that unedited videotape, but we don't get to 572 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 2: see any of that. I mean, how is how is 573 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 2: that not somebody trying to hide something? 574 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 4: Right? 575 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 3: And I think we see I think that's one instance 576 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 3: of again, a larger pattern of things that are being 577 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 3: seen like this is the tape is one facet of 578 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 3: a much larger, very disturbing gemstone. Right, it goes back 579 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 3: to the It goes back to the previous arrest for 580 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 3: first the you know, the the stuff in Florida all 581 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 3: those years back, god like two decades ago. Now these 582 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 3: stuff for Florida, New York when Epstein's home was searched 583 00:34:55,600 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 3: and hard drives went missing, right, and different different computers 584 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 3: went missing as well, never to be found. This has 585 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 3: more This tape has more attention on it because people 586 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 3: were trying to put on a sheep's skin of transparency. Right, 587 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 3: We're trying to do performative transparency in a way that 588 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 3: was sloppy and insincere, and the cover up is what 589 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 3: compromised them further. And I think it goes way past 590 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 3: the tape. We've got to talk about Galain Maxwell at 591 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 3: some point, we've got to talk about the many concerning 592 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 3: things with the president of the United States. And look, 593 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 3: this is something that, you know what, we want to 594 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 3: be very careful with because obviously people can be very 595 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 3: sensitive about politics here. But I think it's safe to 596 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 3: say this is a case we believe goes beyond you know, 597 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 3: ideology or favorite political party. If this was if this 598 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 3: was literally any other person doing this as president of 599 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 3: the United States, everyone would still be concerned. Does that 600 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 3: sound fair? 601 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely. There are Democrat and Republican presidents hanging out 602 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: with this man, and he's accused of all these things. 603 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 2: I can't there are so many things in the video 604 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 2: we'd have to make a whole separate episode to talk 605 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 2: about everything. So everyone please go check out the Wired 606 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: and CBS investigations, specifically the CBS investigation. Search for CBS 607 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 2: News investigation of Jeffrey Epstein jail video reveals new discrepancies 608 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 2: It was written by Dan Rutnik and it was on 609 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 2: July twenty ninth, twenty twenty five. There are so many 610 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 2: people that go in and out of that place when 611 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 2: the official story is that nobody came in and out 612 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 2: of that place. There are so many other things that 613 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 2: occur that are contrary to the official story that it 614 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: is wild. Please check it, please, please check it out. 615 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 3: And while you're on the internet, also check out the 616 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 3: work of Dreve Mehrota me e h r O t 617 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 3: r A over at Wired on July eleventh, twenty twenty five. 618 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 3: That is where you're going to find the article that 619 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 3: releases the information about the meta data and all all. 620 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 3: By the way, also the file released ran for eleven 621 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 3: hours in totality, So thank you to the journalist and 622 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,439 Speaker 3: analysts who went through that eleven hours. You know, Sorry 623 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 3: about your weekend, guys. 624 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 625 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 2: Can I give a just a quick quote here just 626 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 2: everybody has this in their head. This is from Robert Hood, 627 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 2: There's a former Bureau of Prisons Chief of Internal Affairs 628 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 2: and warden of the super max facility in Colorado. He says, quote, 629 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 2: in my opinion, the summary investigative reports don't provide adequate 630 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 2: details concerning Epstein's death. The BOP's new director should provide 631 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: internal investigative reports concerning the MCC involving Epstein's death and 632 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: relate historical data on the jail. And this is somebody 633 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 2: who's just saying you cannot get the information you need 634 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 2: from everything that's being provided, But there is somebody that 635 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: could provide that, and it's the Bureau of Prisons Director 636 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 2: William Marshall. 637 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 3: So check out all those sources, folks. As we said, 638 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 3: this goes far beyond just one instance. You know, I 639 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 3: think something that's happening a lot in the media landscape 640 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 3: now and for people to have questions about Epstein, is 641 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 3: that there are so many things coming out, so many 642 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 3: strange quotes, so many contradictions, so many problems with timelines, 643 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 3: that we could do easily an episode on each single 644 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 3: facet of that gemstone that I don't like that comparison 645 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 3: because people like gems. We could do, but we could 646 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 3: do an episode on each aspect of this unfolding conspiracy 647 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 3: and completely get lost in each facet. We're going to 648 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 3: pause for some words from our sponsor, but before we 649 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 3: do that, it's important to notice that this series of 650 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 3: events particularly the repeated statements that there was no client list. 651 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 3: That one, more than anything, triggered this powerful immediate backlash 652 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 3: to the point where now even pro administration and mainstream 653 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 3: media figures that once championed the president all the way 654 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:25,720 Speaker 3: they began rebelling, some even explicitly accusing the US government 655 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 3: of a cover up. And you know, that's a fracture 656 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 3: of a hugely supportive base, you know what I mean, 657 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 3: Trouble on the horizon. When Fox News starts turning against you, 658 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 3: well yeah, and it's. 659 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 5: Put them in what you might call damage control, with 660 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 5: varying degrees of success. 661 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 4: And it's quite the show to behold. 662 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 3: Indeed, and hold the phone, friends and neighbors, fellow conspiracy realists. 663 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 3: This is going to be a two parter. There's so 664 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 3: much more we have to get to. As always, thank 665 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,760 Speaker 3: you for tuning in. In the meantime, write to us, 666 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 3: maybe give us a phone call. Find us online, that's right, 667 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 3: you can find us at the handle Conspiracy Stuff, where 668 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 3: we exist on Facebook with our Facebook group Here's where 669 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,720 Speaker 3: it gets crazy, on x FKA, Twitter, and on YouTube 670 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 3: with video content for your perusing enjoyment. On Instagram and 671 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 3: TikTok However, we're conspiracy stuff show, and there's more that 672 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 3: our buddy Matt's going to tell you about. 673 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 2: Oh, there's so much more. This is a reminder that 674 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 2: there were as many as fourteen inmates in the area 675 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 2: where Jeff Epstein was kept and where he was found dead, 676 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 2: and only three have voluntarily spoken to investigators. Weird, right, anyway, 677 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 2: Why don't you call us? Our number is one eight 678 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 2: three three std WYTK. It's a voicemail system. When you 679 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 2: call in, you've got three minutes. Give yourself a cool nickname, 680 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 2: and let us know if we can use your name 681 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 2: and message on the air. You want to send us 682 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 2: an email, We are. 683 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 3: The entities that read each piece of correspondence we receive. 684 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 3: Yet I'm afraid sometimes the void writes back. And here's 685 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 3: a beautiful thing about this email stuff, folks, we could 686 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 3: all see it. You could send us the links. You 687 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 3: can send us pictures, animation. It doesn't have to be 688 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 3: related to Epstein. Give us a suggestion for a reaction 689 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 3: to an episode or something you'd like to hear us 690 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 3: explore on Strange News or listener mail. Segments has come 691 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 3: out every week, just like our episodes. Either or just 692 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 3: say hi and send us a cool joke, and as 693 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 3: long as you're anyone other than humorous Harry, we're kidding, Harry. 694 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 4: Thank you. 695 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 3: We'll get to some of those later this week as well. 696 00:41:38,640 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 3: In the meantime, conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com. 697 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 2: Stuff they Don't Want You to Know is a production 698 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,399 Speaker 2: of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 699 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.