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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome The Mother Knows Death. We were at

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Speaker 1: the Dark Side, New Jersey, so we wanted to let

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really cool. When we showed up, it

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Speaker 2: was this huge convention with lots of vendors. They had

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Speaker 2: and then there was other things going on, like people

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Speaker 2: that hang from their skin. I don't understand how that happens.

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Speaker 2: It kind of skews me out, but it's also really

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Speaker 1: We have a whole didn't we do a whole dissection

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Speaker 1: whole science behind it. I did write about it at

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Speaker 1: some point in the course. Maybe, Yeah, it's it's a

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Speaker 1: little bit much for me to look at that. But

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Speaker 1: the other ones were cool there. The person that was

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Speaker 3: Like what is that called?

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Speaker 2: Like, I really don't know in today's day and age,

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Speaker 2: because in circus times, wasn't it like a fire breather

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Speaker 1: It was cool though, I mean, we couldn't really watch

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Speaker 1: there was so many awesome vendors there. I saw so

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Speaker 1: much stuff that I wanted to buy, Like I just

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Speaker 1: but there were lots of things that it was kind

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Speaker 3: It was it was awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what did you end up buying?

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Speaker 1: I got this really cool oval like a vintage oval frame,

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Speaker 1: And it has an old picture of a little girl

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Speaker 1: and over top of her face is a moth that

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Speaker 1: a moth that has what looks like eyeballs on it,

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Speaker 1: and the artist placed it right over top of her face,

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Speaker 1: so it looks like the girl's eyeballs or looks like

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Speaker 1: because she had like a little Chanel button in there too,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, you had me at Chanel.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was kind of mad you were walking around

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Speaker 2: with me because I saw a lot of good stuff.

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Speaker 2: I probably could have got you for Christmas.

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Speaker 1: I know, I was thinking that. Actually I got to

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Speaker 1: preserve spider Web. I've always wanted one of those.

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Speaker 2: That was super cool. We got that amazing fudge too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I got Jen's Christmas present. I'm not going to tell

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Speaker 2: Find out when we have our employee Christmas dinner and

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, and just I got the kids some candy.

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Speaker 1: I got Gabe stuff too, and the kids ate all

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Speaker 3: Got them from work.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that was that was really cool. And we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was awesome, guys.

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Speaker 1: I guess I sent gave the picture and he thought

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that it was so awesome because I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great. And then we had the boots,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Really, and everyone that worked there too at the event,

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Speaker 1: I think we didn't know what to expect, so we're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Everyone, welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode. We

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Speaker 3: About this lady that got you in Buyer Dogs.

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Speaker 1: All that mora on today's episode, a light light episode.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's start off with the death of Ace Freely.

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Speaker 2: He was the original league guitarist for Kiss. He has

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Speaker 2: died at age seventy four after suffering from a brain

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Speaker 2: So this immediately reminded me of the Bob Sagge case.

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Speaker 2: But of course with Bob sagged everybody was convinced he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we know, we know. Rickie is so a lot

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Speaker 1: So I know that you guys are fans of Kiss,

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Speaker 2: But doesn't it make you think of the story we

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Speaker 1: It's crazy that people's fuses so short that they would

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Speaker 2: I don't know, because part of me wants to attribute

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Speaker 1: If it's a situation, it was Mike Myer's a clown,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my kids just said that last night actually to

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Speaker 2: A ten year old boy in Thailand had to get

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Speaker 1: Like it's just I'm not making I'm not making fun

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Speaker 2: I just think that it's it's outrageous that it happened,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you would definitely get pussy tattooed on your forehead.

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Speaker 3: I mean for sure, do you hear this up? She's

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Speaker 2: Unreal, She's gonna show up on next week's episode with

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Speaker 3: Right here, You're gonna this unreal.

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Speaker 2: Anybody that knows you knows that I say that about

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Speaker 1: It's endearing anyway. Loves making fun of me. She's She's

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: They use a sewing needle attached to a pen and

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00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 1: it's kind of the same exact theory it's had too.

448
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 3: You have to stick it in kind of deep.

449
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 1: It has to go beyond into the second layer of

450
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 1: the skin for the ink to go in. But if

451
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 1: it goes into the dharmas, which is what it did

452
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 1: in this case, which is the second layer of skin,

453
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 1: you know how the top layer of our skin. Think

454
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 1: about when you get a sunburn or something. It peels off,

455
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 1: well it's so subtracted by everything, Well, it goes into

456
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: the layer below that and once it's there, there's these

457
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 1: cells that are in your skin called macrifages, and those

458
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: cells are supposed to grab any kind of it. They're

459
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: especially there to grab like bacteria and stuff if you

460
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 1: get a cut, and they're supposed to they're part of

461
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 1: your immune system. But what happens is it grabs that

462
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 1: ink and it holds onto it and the pigment's too

463
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 1: big for it to break down and go to the

464
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Speaker 1: liver to get flushed out of the system, so they

465
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 1: just sit there. And that's what you're looking at is

466
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 1: the tattoo. So over time tattoos will fade, those macrifages

467
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: will continue to digest that and even when they die off,

468
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: new ones will come by and grab that pigment. So

469
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: when they use the laser treatment, they're breaking up all

470
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 1: of that pigment to make it into smart, smaller particles,

471
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 1: so the macrifages are able to break it down. What's

472
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Speaker 1: really cool though, is that a local tattooer had offered

473
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Speaker 1: a laser gets off for free. But then I was

474
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Speaker 1: thinking isn't laser way more painful than getting a tattoo,

475
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Speaker 1: and assuming especially from a shitty home made tattoo gun.

476
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Speaker 3: I never I don't think it was a gun. I

477
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Speaker 3: just think that he they were just like sticking like that,

478
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 3: but lazer.

479
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Speaker 1: I never had the laser tattoo, but I my husband

480
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Speaker 1: had it, and he said it was terrible.

481
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Speaker 3: It looked terrible.

482
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Speaker 2: Because not only was pussy tattooed on his forehead, but

483
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Speaker 2: he had spots on his arms and legs too. So

484
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Speaker 2: they also got ten other spots off of his legs

485
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Speaker 2: and they're saying it's taking three sessions to remove all

486
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Speaker 2: of the markings, which not not like it's enough for

487
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: this kid to go through the initial trauma of going

488
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Speaker 2: through this, but then you also have to go through

489
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Speaker 2: all of this. I can't imagine how horrific.

490
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Speaker 3: Are those kids. I mean, I guess they're not going

491
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Speaker 3: to get in trouble their children.

492
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Speaker 1: It's just it's kind of weird that a ten year

493
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Speaker 1: old would even think to do that to somebody.

494
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 2: Well, yes, it's like a little I just think, like

495
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: you know, I hate everybody blaming video games on white

496
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,479
Speaker 2: kids are so desensitized, But I think we can all

497
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Speaker 2: agree that in general, they've done lots of study.

498
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Speaker 1: That that that's not true, Like they just have though

499
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Speaker 1: I know, I'm just saying it's doing this study.

500
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Speaker 2: So it's like Nintendo is no is it like is

501
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: it like Hasbro games do study exactly what I'm just

502
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: saying though, like there has been correlation with some cases.

503
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Speaker 2: But really they say, I mean, there's just so many people.

504
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: That play them, all those types of games, and but

505
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Speaker 1: if there's definitely I agree with you though, I definitely

506
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: I think there's this sensitation for like we were saying

507
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: that it started with really Luigi Mangi and it was

508
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: like a turning point for that kind of stuff, just

509
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: killing people because you you know, don't agree with them

510
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: and then or what they're doing or whatever, and it

511
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: just kind of spiraled from there in a way of

512
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Speaker 1: just celebrating death.

513
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Speaker 2: All right. So not a good couple weeks for Disney's

514
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: pr because they had two people die and connected to them,

515
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 2: even though they really tried to get this first woman

516
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 2: out before she was pronounced it. So the first lady

517
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 2: was on the Haunted Mansion in Disneyland, and according to police,

518
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 2: the six year old had a medical issue and was

519
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,479
Speaker 2: found unresponsive at the end of the ride, but she

520
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: was later pronounced dead at the hospital. So you know,

521
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: their whole mo is nobody dies in Disney because they

522
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 2: try to cart them off of the property as soon

523
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Speaker 2: as possible. But this one's still being todd days.

524
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Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of you in this room

525
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: would agree that that's like a dream location to die

526
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: like on the Haunted Mansion ride.

527
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: It's just so cool. Don't worry.

528
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: The ride reopened shortly after, so they did have a

529
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: drava bit. It just seems like it's just coincidental. But

530
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 2: I want to know how a death on the ride

531
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Speaker 2: closes it only for a mere hour or two, and

532
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 2: when we why close the fund for everything we did?

533
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: When we went there last year, it was closed all

534
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: day and it was like the only reason we went there.

535
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: Well, we know that the ride has been closed for

536
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Speaker 1: hours because the people are and this is not just

537
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Speaker 1: happening at the Haunted Mansion, but people are bringing their

538
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: loved ones ashes and dumping them on the side of

539
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: their ride. But that's they have to use a happit

540
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Speaker 1: filter and vacuum it all up and everything, so that

541
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Speaker 1: that would the lady. The lady had a heart attack

542
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: probably or something. But we gave the advice too that

543
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: you don't have to dump all the ashes. You can

544
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: just take a little vial and do a little bit,

545
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: so it's not all sprinkle. Yeah, it's it's still the

546
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: same sentiments, don't hold, don't screw up everybody else's day.

547
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Speaker 2: But I mean, it's not this lady's pult she's good.

548
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: Well she so there's only a few things that especially

549
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: thinking that she's at Disney World, so she's probably not.

550
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 3: Sick, like with sepsis or something.

551
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 2: That's what you think now.

552
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: I know, I could see that you have this big,

553
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: expensive trip planned and you really want to go. But

554
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Speaker 1: let's just assume that she was a fairly healthy person.

555
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: She was only sixty, right, she was very young. So

556
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: there's only a few things that could cause you to

557
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: drop dead like that, Like you're fine and then all

558
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're not fine.

559
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 2: You're dead.

560
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 3: So it could be like a heart attack, a stroke.

561
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Speaker 1: There's just like a couple of different things that would

562
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Speaker 1: cause you to be walking and talking and then up

563
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: the next the aneurysm or something like that. There's not

564
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: that many things that it could really be if she

565
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: was seemingly healthy or in good health for the most part,

566
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Speaker 1: well except for the bad heart or whatever.

567
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Speaker 3: It was all right.

568
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: So then this week, a thirty one year old woman

569
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Speaker 2: was found dead at the Contemporary resort in Disney World.

570
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: So at first there was rumors that a person was

571
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Speaker 2: hit by a monorail, but officials later said that that

572
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Speaker 2: wasn't true and her death is an apparent suicide. This

573
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: one has a lot of weird details coming out about it.

574
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we actually, so we have a website called the

575
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: Gross Room, and we do every single week we either

576
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: cover a celebrity or other kinds of deaths that are

577
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: just interesting to people.

578
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: So a couple of years ago we.

579
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Speaker 1: Did Disney just Disney World deaths because people you hear

580
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: about them once in a while, but people don't really

581
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Speaker 1: talk about it that much because it's frowned upon at

582
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Speaker 1: Disney to think about.

583
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: Things like that. But someone, actually, someone did.

584
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Speaker 1: Kill themselves at the Contemporary a couple years ago, and

585
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: it was it was in twenty sixteen. Someone jumped in

586
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: front of the monorail, which is still a possibility because

587
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: I don't know that. They definitely said that she jumped.

588
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: They said that she They said the wording was very interesting.

589
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: It just said she was.

590
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: Not hit by the monarel.

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00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: She intended to take her own life. Do you understand,

592
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: You think it's still yeah, it still could have hit

593
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 1: her and she could have felt.

594
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: Do you think the way they worded it was that

595
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 2: she wasn't hit as a result of like.

596
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: It wasn't an actor. Yeah, I don't.

597
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: I don't know because they didn't really say that. And

598
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: they said that her cause of death was blunt force trauma.

599
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: So what that is is that's supposed to You would say,

600
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: if someone stabs someone at Marshall's, that would be sharp

601
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: trauma that you're using a sharp weapon. Blunt trauma is

602
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: can happen if you're using a blunt weapon like a

603
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: baseball bet or something that isn't sharp. But it also

604
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: can happen because your body is considered to be a

605
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: blunt object hitting against the pavement, which is another blunt object,

606
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: or a train or anything. So if she was One

607
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: disturbing fact of this too, was that it was six

608
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: o'clock at night and guests were the one that reported

609
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: that they saw a dead body, which is like, you

610
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: don't want to be in that mindset in Disney. But yeah,

611
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: this story is do you have some of the details

612
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: on her. Yeah, So it started coming out that she

613
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: flew from her home in Illinois to Orlando without telling anyone.

614
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: And then somebody on Reddit hours before had posted in

615
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: a Disney forum looking for a missing woman matching her description,

616
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: but they have not confirmed the connection between that post,

617
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: but it seems likely it was her. And then when

618
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: her identity was revealed and these articles found her Facebook page,

619
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: they said back in December she had posted a pregnancy

620
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: announcement with her husband, but there was never any follow

621
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: up updates on the pregnancy, and her honeymoon had been

622
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: at the Contemporary two months before she announced that pregnancy.

623
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Speaker 1: So are we under the assum that she lost the baby?

624
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: Did she have the baby and is going through severe postpartum?

625
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: What is going on?

626
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: Her family had no idea.

627
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: She was taking a trip there that day.

628
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Speaker 3: So I did some creeping on Reddit.

629
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: So this is all just this is all just speculation.

630
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: But apparently the husband put the post on this Reddit

631
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: page that was our slash Disney and said her name

632
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: and said that she was missing, and she left without

633
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: saying anything, and she turned her phone off, okay, and

634
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: they nobody knew where she was, and they were obviously

635
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: she had to be having some kind of mental illness

636
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: issues in the past, because why else would they why

637
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: else would he be I mean, I guess it's weird

638
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: for anybody to do that, but that was.

639
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 3: Setting off alarms that she was missing like that.

640
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was putting this post to say, hey,

641
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: she was, but she was like one of these, like

642
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: a Disney she was she was there all the time.

643
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 2: Well she not only went all the time, but she

644
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: had worked there for three years as a character actor.

645
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah so she So I don't think for people that

646
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: go to Disney World multiple times a year that that

647
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: necessarily would be so random, right, except in this case.

648
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: So she So people were saying that they followed her

649
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: on Instagram. I don't know if she was one of

650
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: these Disney influencer type of people, but somebody said that

651
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: she had a baby girl in July. Okay, So that's

652
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: what I was wondering because and yeah, so, I mean,

653
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: that's that's just what I saw reading the comments. Like

654
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: I said, it's not officially reported, but people seemed somebody

655
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: was like, like a rest in peace, my friend I had,

656
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: she had a girl in July. I mean that it's

657
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: it's likely what was going on there, so which would

658
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: make sense. And as soon as soon as I thought

659
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: about that, I don't know if you guys heard about

660
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: this story. A couple of years ago, this woman named

661
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: Lynza Clancy in she was like near Boston area right

662
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: or up in New England area there. She had just

663
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: had a baby and she killed three of her children

664
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: and then she tried to kill herself by jumping out

665
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: of her window. And it's a postpartum depression thing. But

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Speaker 1: there's you know, a lot of people experience it after

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Speaker 1: they have a baby. But then there's a certain population,

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Speaker 1: a subset of the population that gets this psychosis it's

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Speaker 1: have experienced this said that when they see their baby,

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Speaker 1: they think about them getting hurt, but they think about

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Speaker 1: them maybe dropping them by accident or something like that.

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Speaker 1: And then there's even a smaller percentage of these people

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Speaker 1: who think about harming their children to the point where

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Speaker 1: they get so scared with those thoughts that they decide

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Speaker 1: that they have to.

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Speaker 3: Be away from them.

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Speaker 1: And maybe that could be the case of what happened

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Speaker 1: here that she is having. You hear stories of women

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Speaker 1: that they don't feel a connection with their baby and

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Speaker 1: things like that, and whenever anything like that happens, you

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Speaker 1: should always be seeing a mental health expert to deal

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Speaker 1: with that.

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Speaker 3: And so the woman that I was talking about.

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Speaker 1: Lindsey Clancy, she was actually seeing a psychiatrist because she

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Speaker 1: was having these issues and she was on medications. And

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Speaker 1: she sent her husband to the store I believe, to

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Speaker 1: go pick up dinner or something like that, and while

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Speaker 1: he was gone, she killed the kids with like exercise equipment. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then she jumped out of the window. And she

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Speaker 1: is a quadriplegic right now. So it's a real thing

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Speaker 1: that I think. It's I mean, it sucks to talk

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Speaker 1: about suicide and stuff, but it's good to talk about

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Speaker 1: because so many people have babies and are around people,

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Speaker 1: and you could start telling when when someone's going through it.

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Speaker 3: Afterwards. Yeah, I mean, I guess.

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Speaker 2: As always, we'll try to update you if we ever

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Speaker 2: get it more information, but we never do. All right,

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Speaker 2: Should we wrap up on this later? One a woman

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Speaker 2: eaten by her dogs? All right? Police went to go

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Speaker 2: do a welfare check on a woman in her late sixties,

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Speaker 2: and when they got there, they not only found her dead,

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Speaker 2: but discovered that her dogs had eaten her. Her remains

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Speaker 2: were scattered across the property, and they believed she was

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Speaker 2: eaten by other wild animals as well.

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Speaker 1: This happens way more often than you think. You would

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Speaker 1: think that your animal wouldn't eat you, but when you're

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Speaker 1: dead and you're not giving them food, then they're going

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Speaker 1: to eat you. These dogs had these wireless perimeter collars

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Speaker 1: on them, so they were kind of stuck on the property.

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Speaker 1: They think the woman so she was in her late sixties.

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Speaker 1: They think that she may have experienced a medical event

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Speaker 1: and fell down the stairs, and then the dogs just

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Speaker 1: started to eat her, along with possibly other animals in

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Speaker 1: the air. The reason that they have to think is

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Speaker 1: because when you have a person, they said that her

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Speaker 1: mail hadn't been checked for a long time, no one

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Speaker 1: had seen her, and she had fallen in an area

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Speaker 1: where none of the neighbors could see, so she was

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Speaker 1: there for a while, and at that point there's not

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Speaker 1: a lot of soft tissue left, so if she did

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Speaker 1: have a heart attack, the heart could possibly just be gone,

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Speaker 1: so you really wouldn't be able to tell let's say,

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Speaker 1: obviously they'll check the whole body. So when they bring

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Speaker 1: the body to the medical examiner's office, they're going to

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Speaker 1: do X rays and they're just going to see if

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Speaker 1: there's any broken bones or any evidence of a knife attack,

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Speaker 1: a gun attack, or anything like that. And once they

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Speaker 1: rule out that she had any signs of trauma, they're

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Speaker 1: basically going to say that it was probably due to

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Speaker 1: just an accident or a natural event that would cause

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Speaker 1: her to fall down.

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Speaker 3: And so one of the ways that you could tell

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Speaker 3: that the.

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Speaker 1: Animals didn't attack her and that wasn't the reason that

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Speaker 1: she died is because if there was soft tissue left

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Speaker 1: on the bones, you could see that there was no

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Speaker 1: hemorrhage or anything, which means that her heart would have

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Speaker 1: been beating. So hemorrhage is like when you bleed, it'll

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Speaker 1: be like a bruising.

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Speaker 3: Around the around the wound.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of times in these post mortem animal

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Speaker 1: scavengings that we see, you won't see a lot of it.

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Speaker 1: Just there's no sign that there was life when those

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Speaker 1: wounds occurred. So you also see things like scratches on

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Speaker 1: the bones from the teeth from the claws, and she

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Speaker 1: had a cat to One of the things that I

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Speaker 1: hate talking about these animal stories is that they euthanize

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Speaker 1: the animals.

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Speaker 2: Which is but the reasoning seem ridiculous. They said they

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Speaker 2: youthanize the dogs due to a biohazard of consuming human remains,

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Speaker 2: and then they euthanized the cat after it was found

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Speaker 2: lethar and malnourished. Those don't really seem like legitimate reasons

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Speaker 2: to kill these animals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just like the woman, if she had anything,

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Speaker 1: it's it's definitely gone by now, and just like put

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Speaker 1: them in quarantine for a day and let them poop

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Speaker 1: it out and they'll be fine.

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Speaker 2: I don't really understand why they did that, But can

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Speaker 2: you imagine the cops showing up, So you're like, I'm

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Speaker 2: either seeing a Jeffrey Dahmer situation with these limbs scattered

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Speaker 2: around this property or just a woman eating by her

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Speaker 2: pits marble.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I know.

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Speaker 1: I mean I feel like cops have seen it enough

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Speaker 1: that when they show up there, they they'll what's up.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's frantic animals and old Lady. You could

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