1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 2: Third hour Clay in Bucks starts right now, everybody, and 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 2: we're diving into the latest from New Hampshire and the 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: Republican primary. Also speak a little bit about this Dean Phillips, Hello, 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: who is running against Joe Biden. He was up there, 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: but we want to take your calls to eight hundred 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: two two two eight eight two so you can weigh 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: in on everything that we are seeing. First up, Ronald McDaniel, 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: who is RNC chair, says that it's time for Nikki 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: to drop. Nikki Haley doesn't have a path. This is 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 2: cut twelve, let's play it. 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: We have never had a nominee in our party that 14 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: has won without any either Iowa, New Hampshire. Donald Trump 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 3: is the first ever to win both. I'm looking at 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 3: the math and the path going forward and I don't 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: see it for Nicki Haley. I think she's run a 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: great campaign. But I do think there is a message 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: that's coming out from. 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 4: The voters which is very clear. 21 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 3: We need to unite around our eventual nominee, which is 22 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 3: going to be Donald Trump, and we need to make 23 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: sure we beat Joe Biden. It is ten months away 24 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 3: till the November election, and we can't wait any longer 25 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: to put our foot on the gas to beat the 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: worst president to be, the president that's kept our borders open, 27 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: allowed fatanel to pour through, allowed inflation to go rampant. 28 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: He is hurting the American people and we need to 29 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: do everything we can to unite so that we can 30 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: defeat him. 31 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: So that's the RNC head Rona McDaniel, who you'll recall 32 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: Trump supported in that moment where it was possibly going 33 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: to go. Rn C chairman's job is going to go 34 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: to someone else, and Trump gave his endorsement to Rona 35 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: and that helped push her over the finish line to 36 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: stay in that job. Clay, I just thought it was 37 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: interesting to note for everybody out there, Nikki Haley has 38 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: released You just heard the r and C chairman's from 39 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: I think last night or this morning saying that I'm 40 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: sorry Nicki Haley needs to drop out. Here is Nicky 41 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: Haley releasing an ad where she's going after Trump. This 42 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: is cut eleven going after Trump and Biden. 43 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 5: Biden, too old, Trump, too much chaos, a rematch no 44 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 5: one wants there's a better choice for a better America. 45 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 5: Her story started right here, America's youngest governor, a conservative Republican, 46 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 5: and boy did she deliver. 47 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: What's the play here? I mean, first of all, that 48 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: not a great ad, But what's the play? What's the 49 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: move for Nicki Haley as you see it. 50 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: As this In the same way that on Wednesday last week, 51 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: we came on this show and said, there is no 52 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: path for Ron DeSantis. It makes no sense for him 53 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: to continue in this race. There is no path for 54 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: Nicky Haley. It makes no sense for her to continue 55 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: in this race. And so Nicky Haley needs to get 56 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: out of the you just heard. The only way that 57 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: that ad that she's running, the only way that Nicki 58 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: Haley makes sense is if she's now working for the Democrats, 59 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: because she can attack Donald Trump, she can force him 60 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: to potentially have to spend I don't know, millions and millions, 61 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: if not tens of millions of dollars on the Republican 62 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: primary campaign that would otherwise be able to be allocated 63 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: to go after Joe Biden. So if Nicki Haley is 64 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: desirous of Joe Biden losing, then she should end her 65 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: presidential campaign immediately. If she is trying to sabotage Trump 66 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: and Biden, then maybe it makes sense. 67 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 6: But how does that make any sense at all? 68 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: We started off the show two hours ago and we said, 69 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: open phone lines. Is there one person in America listening 70 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: to us right now and there are millions that will 71 00:03:54,440 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: defend Nicky Haley remaining in the presidential campaign. One person 72 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: called in, there are millions of you out there listening 73 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: to us right now. Eight hundred two eight two two 74 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: eight a two. And we should also mention we have 75 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: invited Nicki Haley to come on the program and make 76 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: the case to you why she should stay in the race. 77 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: Nicki Haley has not responded to our invitation. Now, we've 78 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: had her on the show before, but I would submit 79 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: to you, if you were trying to win the Republican 80 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: race and it was you against Donald Trump, and you 81 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: were invited on this program to speak to millions of 82 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: voters and tell all of them why you should still 83 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: be running for president, wouldn't you take that opportunity? So far, 84 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: Nicki Haley hasn't now again open invite to her to 85 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: come on the program and make the case for why 86 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: she should stay in the race. I see no pathway 87 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: for her being the nominee. I see therefore no legitimate 88 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: basis for her to stay in the race. Open phone 89 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: lines for any Nicky Haley supporter, why should she stay 90 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: in the race. And by the way, arguing something that 91 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: you can't control is not a reason to stay in 92 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: the race. Because somebody might say, like the Wall Street 93 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: Journal editorial board said, well, if Donald Trump ends up 94 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: getting convicted of a crime and there's a decision made 95 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: to move on from him, maybe Nicki Haley would have 96 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: enough delegates to try to make a play to do 97 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: that in July and Milwaukee at the Republican National Convention. 98 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: She doesn't control that, and I think Trump's going to 99 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: have already wrapped up the nomination easily. She doesn't control 100 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: if Donald Trump has a health related issue. If you 101 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: don't control whether you can be the nominee or not, 102 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: then you should drop out. The math doesn't add up 103 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: Nicki Haley. There's no reason whatsoever for her to stay 104 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: in this race. Now that's part one. Part two that's 105 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: got people fired up is I think she makes sense 106 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: as a vice president. 107 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 7: You gotta stop. 108 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: We're just the people that are writing in this, I 109 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 2: promise you, I tell I tell Clay. Every time he 110 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: says that, I'm like, trust me. They know that you 111 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: think she's a she'd be a good vice president, but uh, 112 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: you got a new audience by the third hour. 113 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: A lot of people out there are new new people 114 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: who can get angry at me for saying it. 115 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 6: Everybody. I love the I love the picture. 116 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: You see the the Alonso morning Jiff for gift whatever 117 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: you're supposed to pronounce it as where he sits on 118 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: the bench in the Miami Heat uniform and he's shaking 119 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: his head no, and then after a little while he 120 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,559 Speaker 1: starts shaking his head yes. It's a It's a really 121 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: popular meme that people will share because it's like, you know, 122 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: it's just so interesting to think about what he was thinking. 123 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: And then you hear an argument this is the reverse 124 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: of that. A lot of the Trump people are not 125 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: in their head. He's right, he's a truth teller. She's 126 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: got to drop out. There's no basis whatsoever for her 127 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: to stay in. And then when I pivot to but 128 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: he she would make sense as a VP, they immediately 129 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: get angry. So they're all all the time right now, 130 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: there are one hundred percent agreement, and then they're like 131 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: he's crazy. They just go right off the reservation there. 132 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: If she drops out before South Carolina, this is this 133 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: is what I see happening. If she drops before South 134 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: Carolina Nikki Haley and Trump wins, Nikki Haley ends up 135 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: being Secretary of State, That's what I think happens. 136 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 6: That's not a bad theory. 137 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: Do you agree with me that Trump should start to 138 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: put his together his cabinet right now and start rolling 139 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: it out. 140 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 6: For every head to see it. 141 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: For you know, I will say this, I think even 142 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: if Haley were to stay in, I don't think Trump 143 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: needs to spend he doesn't have to show up for debates. 144 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: He's not going to debate her. He doesn't really have 145 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: to spend money. He's going to blow out the competition. 146 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: She's his only competition left and all these other states 147 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: that are left. So I think he just and I 148 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: see this happening already. But you know, the battleships have 149 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: to all just focus their fire on the enemy here, 150 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: like this is not NIGGI. Haley is not going to 151 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: be president. It's not going to happen, and so they 152 00:07:59,080 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: might as well take the out of. 153 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 7: Look Trump is. 154 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: In terms of the strategy here of the primary, there 155 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: have been a few things that have worked remarkably well. 156 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 7: One of them was not shown up for debates. 157 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: Yes, if you had told somebody, I know now, it's 158 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: it's a perception. It's like, well, of course Trump did that. 159 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: But if you had said ten years ago that any 160 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: Republican would be the leading contender or sorry, it would 161 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: be basically become the nominee by refusing to show up 162 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: in debate. At one point there were what five or 163 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 2: six people that were on that debate that you know, 164 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: we're going to be on that debate stage, or we're 165 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: on that debate stage. That would have been crazy. Oh, 166 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: people would say, you're scared to face the voters. Out 167 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: of Trump, people didn't feel like the primary was necessary. 168 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: I let me build also on I like your idea, 169 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: Nicki Haley, Secretary of State. 170 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 6: Maybe that makes more sense. 171 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: I think you roll out all the different cabinet members 172 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: and Trump can go a long way towards aligning the 173 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: rest of the Republican Party. Because I don't know who 174 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: the choice would be, but basically put any secretary of 175 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: State who looks sorry, secretary of treasure Treasury Secretary of 176 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: Transportation against Mayor Pete. When you start lining up the 177 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 1: two respective options, Okay, you've got the gay mayor of 178 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: South Bend, Indiana, who's the only transportation secretary any of 179 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: us can name pretty much in the last twenty years, 180 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: because he's done such a crappy job compared to whatever 181 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: candidate that Trump would put out there, and go ahead 182 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: and get everybody to agree. Merrick Garland is the attorney general. 183 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: Who would Trump pick as his attorney general. I would 184 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: love to know if Ted Cruz was not running for 185 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: reelection as the as a senator from Texas, because I 186 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: think he'd probably prefer to keep that job. I think 187 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz would make an incredible attorney general. I think 188 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: Senator Mike Lee from Utah would make an incredible attorney general. 189 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: By the way, I like this too because it does 190 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: two things. Well, it does a few things, but two 191 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: that come to mind immediately for Trump. One pivot to 192 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: the general. You're in a general election, now we all 193 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 2: know it. People can say, oh, but we need to 194 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: let the people vote. Yeah, they can vote, that's fine. 195 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: But the strategy for I'm talking about from a Trump 196 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 2: campaign perspectives. He's in a general against Joe Biden. That's 197 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 2: where we are now. Maybe the Biden thing shifts, whatever, 198 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: but he's in a general against the Democrat Party. With 199 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: that in mind, putting forward the cabinet and discussing these things, 200 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: I don't think it's premature at all, because one it 201 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: can create, especially just people being in the mix, they 202 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: become surrogates for the Trump campaign in the sense that 203 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: they'll be asked you know, hey, so and so. You know, 204 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: assuming it's someone that is seriously being considered and that 205 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 2: that has a good relationship with Trump. You know, you're 206 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: being talked about as a possible Treasury secretary. Yeah, I 207 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 2: think that'd be great because we would fix the mess 208 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: that Biden's making of the economy. 209 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 7: Right. 210 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: It puts things into the news cycle, It creates discussion 211 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: points that are positive, that are constructive, and then so 212 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: it pivots Trump toward the general. It starts to filter 213 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: into the news cycle, and it also focuses everyone on 214 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: policies and fixes early on, because you can talk about 215 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 2: some of these high level picks for an administration, whether 216 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: it's the VP of the Secretary of State at the 217 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: Treasury Secretary of Defense, and it gets people thinking about 218 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: how things would be different under Trump administration. So to me, 219 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: there's no the reason you wouldn't normally do that would 220 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 2: be it looks presumptuous. 221 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 7: It's not presumptuous. There we should have that discussion. 222 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: And it also sends the message I'm ready to go 223 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: day one because a huge part of the transition and 224 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: the time that you spend. If everybody already knew who 225 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: the pick was, then the Attorney General can already start 226 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: making telephone calls the potential Attorney general nominee to figure out, Hey, 227 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: who's going to work underneath him or her? Write whoever 228 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: these people are that are getting slotted in Secretary of State, 229 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: vice president, they can put together their staffs, and you 230 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: legitimately would have the most capable on the ground transition 231 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: team ready to go five minutes after Trump steps down 232 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: having been sworn in as President of the United States 233 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: in January of next year. 234 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 6: That to me, that is the play. 235 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: You know, Trump is the ultimate you know, he did 236 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: the Apprentice and everything else. Even if you wanted to say, hey, 237 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: here's our schedule, right, I think that would be amazing. 238 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: We here is the next six months. We are announcing 239 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: each of our cabinet members on this day, We're going 240 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: to have a press conference. We'll introduce it with him. 241 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: It would be really impressive television. It would be great theater. 242 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: To me, it's a no brainer to go ahead and 243 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: put together the team. And I think that would go 244 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: a long way because people say, oh, you know, I'm 245 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: not necessarily happy with Trump. The best thing he did 246 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen was put out his potential Supreme Court nominees. Early, 247 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: go ahead and tell us who your nominees are to 248 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: be members of this cabinet. Let's get it rolling now, yep, 249 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,119 Speaker 1: I agree. 250 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: Eight hundred two eight two two. What do you think 251 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: about this? And you have some suggestions, not for VP, 252 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 2: some suggestions that you think would be important on policy 253 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: in a Trump administration in some of the other prominent spots. 254 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure we could get a better transportation secretary, 255 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: for example. I'm just throwing that out there. 256 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: And it allows you to compare and buck which would 257 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: kill It would do really really well. 258 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 7: I think in a lot of cases people say, wait, 259 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 7: who does Biden have running that agency? There'd be a 260 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 7: lot of that. So it's absolutely worthwhile. 261 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: On the days you want to be reminded about the 262 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: goodness that is found in America. There's a podcast series 263 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: worthy of your time. It's called Our American Stories. It's 264 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: a daily podcast series that feature stories about America and 265 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: its people. 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Get Our American 274 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: Stories on the iHeartRadio app, free, or wherever you get 275 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: your podcasts. Again Our American Stories. Download it today. Truth 276 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: after Truth, you can handle the truth. Clay Travis and 277 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: Fox Sexton Welcome back. 278 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: In Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, It's Happened. A caller 279 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: has called in to argue that Nicki Haley should stay 280 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: in the race. Millions of you out there listening, One 281 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: of you brave enough to argue in favor of Nicky 282 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: Haley remaining in the race. He is Seth and Lafayette 283 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: or Lafayette Indiana. I'm not sure which way it's pronounced Seth. 284 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: Why should Nicki Haley stay in the race. 285 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's Lafayette, like the general from France who helped us. 286 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 6: Win Marquee Marquee. 287 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, Lafayette. 288 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 8: Lafayette is who it is. Okay, So if I'm Nicki Haley, 289 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 8: I'm staying in the race as well, because she is 290 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 8: now going to her home turf. She has never lost 291 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 8: on her home turf, and she has four weeks to work. 292 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 8: The ground now is in an uphill battle. Absolutely it 293 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 8: is for her. But she's never lost on her home turf, 294 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 8: and if she can groom in those four weeks, groom 295 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 8: her home turf, now she has momentum going into Super Tuesday. 296 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 6: I get so you would stay in. 297 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: You would stay in if you were Nicky Haley because 298 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: you would think you can pull off the upset in 299 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: South Carolina. 300 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 8: If I'm going to my home turf, if I'm going, okay, 301 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 8: So let's if it's me and I'm going to Indiana, 302 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 8: I'm in. I'm in that position. Yeah, I'm gonna groom 303 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 8: my home state because I think I can win there. 304 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 6: Okay, that is an argument. 305 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: How you for calling in I what is Let's pretend 306 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: buck that could be right. 307 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 7: Just be clear, he could be spot on. 308 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: I think it's a long distance, or say it's a 309 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: long time, but it's it's possible. 310 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think through. And again, I feel like 311 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: I have a pretty good pulse on the South in 312 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: general because I came out of writing about SEC football. 313 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: I don't know very many people who are who have 314 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: spent more time all over the South than I have. 315 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: I won't say it's zero percent because Trump could have 316 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: a health related condition in the next month and that 317 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: could change the outcome of the race. But remember these 318 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: people are suspending their campaigns. If Trump, and God forbid 319 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: it happened, if something awful health wise happened to Trump 320 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: in the next month between now in South Carolina, I 321 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: think you would see and Trump suddenly couldn't run anymore. 322 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 6: I think you would see it. 323 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: Remember, all these campaigns are suspended. Everybody would just come 324 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: back and so again they're just suspended. So there's no 325 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: reason why that could happen. I look at everything as 326 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: what can you control and Buck, I can't see any 327 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: way imaginable that Nicki Haley is going to beat Donald 328 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: Trump in South Carolina. And if and our caller said, okay, 329 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: well what if she did? Okay, what if she loses? 330 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: She's never lost the race in South Carolina. What if 331 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: Trump beats her sixty five thirty five seventy thirty on 332 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: her home turf? Are you telling me that wouldn't be 333 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 1: a massive hit to her going forward to lose that 334 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: bad on her home turf? Well, this is why I 335 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: think she's got to be taking. 336 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 7: A long How old is Nicky Haley? 337 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: She's fifty two, fifty two, she's young, Yeah, young him 338 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 2: for politics these days, she's very young. 339 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's very young. 340 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: Given the competition, she's got to take the long view here. 341 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: And I just think that I think that maintaining to 342 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: what the caller says, staying undefeated in your home state 343 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 2: is much more important than just picking up a home state, 344 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: or rather much better idea than picking up an l 345 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: in your home state. 346 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 7: I think that's a bad idea. 347 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: No, what's also a bad idea of paying too much 348 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: for your cell phone bill? 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So they're 374 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: pretending that they want to do it. I mean it 375 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 2: would be like, you know, imagine if if you were 376 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 2: if your house was on fire and you and the 377 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: fire department doesn't arrive, and all of a sudden, you're 378 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 2: grabbing buckets and you're going to start throwing buckets of water, 379 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 2: anything you can do, and the fire department arrives, says, no, 380 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: that's our job, You're not allowed to do that, and 381 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 2: then they don't turn the hoses on. That's the administration. 382 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: That is what they are doing on immigration. They are 383 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: pretending that it's their prerogative, but really it's just their 384 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 2: prerogative to do nothing and to let this continue. And 385 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 2: that's what's going on. Our friend Glenn Beck had a 386 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 2: Department of Public Safety spokesman on his show from the 387 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: Texas Department of Public Safety to say that Texas. 388 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 7: Is not going to stop Clay. I thought this was 389 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 7: really interesting. 390 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's going to lay down more razor wire 391 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: and Nancy Mace, member of Congress, and I would say 392 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 2: in the top ten for possible Trump vps by the way, 393 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: but we don't have to get into that right now. 394 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: Not top five, but I think she's in the top ten. Conversation, 395 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 2: she's saying that even Democrats, this is cut twenty three, 396 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: are angry about what's going on in cities with the 397 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: legals play it. 398 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 9: Depending on the kind of district you're in, whether it's 399 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 9: purple or red, immigration could be the number one issue. 400 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 9: The economy and immigration are the top two issues. 401 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 4: Abortion is always going to be up there in swing 402 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 4: states and swing districts. 403 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 9: But every town is now a border town. Even in South. 404 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 4: Carolina, our law enforcement have arrested members of the MS 405 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 4: thirteen gang their offense noel overdoses every single day. Every 406 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 4: state it's a border state now because of the influx 407 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 4: the millions and millions of illegal aliens Joe Biden has 408 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 4: allowed into this country with no end in sight. Under 409 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 4: Donald Trump, this was not happening. 410 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 9: People see that. They feel that even Democrats in New 411 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 9: York and Chicago, they're angry at Joe Biden for what 412 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 9: he's done. 413 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 2: To their cities. 414 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 9: It's all his fault. 415 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 6: It's really Nancy Mace. I think she's interesting. 416 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: I know that some of you out there are going 417 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: to say she vacillates some ways in the direction that 418 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: she goes on particular issues. 419 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 6: But I think she's smart. I think she. 420 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: Understands who the swing voters are going to be because 421 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: of the districts that she has come to represent over 422 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: time there in South Carolina. Remember, she didn't endorse Trump 423 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty what she voted for impeachment, I think, 424 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: and now she's come out and endorsed Trump in the 425 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four election, which is quite a pivot. 426 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 6: But I think it. 427 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: Means that she is willing to acknowledge changing circumstances, and 428 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: I think she gets to the essence of a lot 429 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: of these issues. Let me hit you with the question here, Buck, 430 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: which I haven't heard anybody ask about. So a couple 431 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: of things on this border related wire being put down. 432 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: We've reached out to the governor of Texas and we 433 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: will get him on Greg Abbott, I would bet in 434 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks he's I think in India, 435 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: they said right now on a trip trying to mageint 436 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: up more business for the state of Texas. Obviously been 437 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: re elected term limited out there. How does he play 438 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: this politically? Because the state versus federal government on immigration 439 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: could lead to the State of Texas being held in 440 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: contempt in some way of the court rulings related to this. 441 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: That's point one point two I analyzed yesterday. I put 442 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: on my lawyer hat and I pretended I was trying 443 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: to give you the argument for Amy Cony. Barrett also 444 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: then talked about the four Conservatives who had the other 445 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: side here. Let me ask you this, as you look 446 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: at John Roberts and you know his political nature, how 447 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: much of this ruling buck could be a sign that 448 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: they're going to be coming down in favor of Trump 449 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: on some of these controversial decisions, and they're trying to balance. 450 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 6: Out the equities. 451 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: Here to avoid the Supreme Court getting accused of always 452 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: being against Biden and pro Trump, and they're they remember this, 453 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: Your take on. 454 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 2: This, I think is correct, but it's too positive or 455 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 2: too sunshine. 456 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I agree. Yeah, yeah, let me 457 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: let me just finish this for a second, then you 458 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: tee off on it. I'm not saying I agree with it. 459 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 1: But I think what all everybody out there has to 460 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: recognize is we're not seeing the full scorecard. Meaning John 461 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: Roberts and Amy Cony, Barrett and all of these justices 462 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: know what the behind the scenes votes are are for 463 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 1: all of these contentious cases that are coming, and they 464 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: know they're going to be dribbling them out all the 465 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: way through June. And so if they're looking at the 466 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: full scorecard and they say, oh, we're going to be 467 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: on the Republican side, the Trump side on four really 468 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: big cases, let's say, and then this one's kind of 469 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: in the middle, and they're like, well, we want to 470 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: try to split it, so we'll be on this side 471 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: to try to balance it. 472 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 6: So I'm not saying I agree with it. 473 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm just saying they have optics in the Supreme Court 474 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: to know how cases that are not yet decided I 475 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: will be coming out. 476 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 6: Okay, now I meant. 477 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 7: To what I meant to. That's not a TF thing. 478 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: I just when you say that, oh, well, this will 479 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: establish if it comes up if Trump, when Trump, or 480 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: if Trump wins, that he will be truly supreme on 481 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: border issues. Yeah, insofar as if there's a similar a 482 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: similar question brought to them. But what they'll do is 483 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: every federal judge in the is going to find some 484 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 2: way to bury Trump in the Administrative Procedures Act or 485 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: in the failure to give notice of the Bureaucracy's page 486 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: seven to seven three nine zero, I mean, or your 487 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 2: environmental protection over whether or not like that, you know, 488 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: the across the border. So it's not a fair trade 489 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: in essence, because even if the Supreme Court goes, oh, well, 490 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: you know, Texas can't do this, but at least that 491 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: means that Trump he comes along, there'll be a million 492 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: other little legal snags that they'll throw in the way 493 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 2: to try to slow him down from being able to 494 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: execute his authority. So it's not that I disagree with 495 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: what you're saying. It's just I see that you know, 496 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: it's like heads we lose, tails they win, right, I mean, 497 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: there's no way around this. 498 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, So that's that. 499 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: I think you're one hundred percent right on what will 500 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: happen if Trump tries to build a wall and immigration 501 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: related issues. When I'm saying no on top of that 502 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: is if they're going to come out. We were talking 503 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: with Julie Kelly earlier, and if they were going to 504 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: say that half of the charges that Jack Smith is 505 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: bringing against Trump for these January sixth charges are not 506 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: permitted to be existed, Like they're misapplying that statute and 507 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be able to be applied against jan six defendants. 508 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: And if they're going to grant Trump potentially expansive presidential 509 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: privileges as it pertains to his powers to challenge this election, 510 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: they know how that vote is going to come out already, 511 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: and they may not be released until June. And so 512 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: not even in the immigration capacity, although I do think 513 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: presidential powers is fascinating there, they may just be trying 514 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: to balance it out so they give Biden a couple 515 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: of wins even though Trump's going to get a couple 516 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: of wins, so they don't get accused of just being 517 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: completely in the tank for Trump. That's when I say 518 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: that they know how the votes are going to come out. 519 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: I do think Chief Justice Roberts will trade his vote. 520 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: I do, And I think that is the opposite of 521 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: constitutional legitimacy, right. I think when you're sitting there and 522 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: you're like, well it's four four, I want to get 523 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: your opinion that I like on this case. Let me 524 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: see if I'll take this side on this case. I 525 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: think he did it with Obamacare. I think he did 526 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: it with uh with Roe v. 527 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 6: Wade. 528 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 1: I think he did it with so many of these 529 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: cases out there, and so he's wondered that might be going. 530 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: He's an institutionalist, and unfortunately the institutions now all tend 531 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: to lean a little left because there's this constant echo 532 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: chamber effect of. 533 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, they can't do that. 534 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 6: That's yeah, you know. 535 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 2: So I think I think he gets I think he 536 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 2: gets bullied on things and starts to believe some of 537 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: the press about how, oh, if the Supreme Court does that, 538 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 2: then it's illegitimate. 539 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 7: So then he goes, oh, okay, I'm scared, you know. 540 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: I I think, you know, I think that I think 541 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 2: his Obamacare decision was was just appallingly intellectually dishonest. I mean, 542 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 2: I think that he's done a number of decisions where 543 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 2: he just got scared of the Washington Post headlines. 544 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: And yes, and this gets and this is what gets 545 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: me so fired up. The entire reason you have lifetime 546 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: tenure is to give you balls if you don't otherwise 547 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: have balls, by which I mean you can't get removed. 548 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: And I just don't understand some of these guys and 549 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: gals who get into these positions and you worry what 550 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: somebody at a cocktail party is going to think about you. 551 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 6: I don't get that. 552 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: And this is the same position I have with all 553 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: the billionaires out there, like Mark Cuban who just turned 554 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: into gelded eunuchs, and they won't say what they actually 555 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: think about an issue that's very important to the future 556 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: of the country because they're afraid that somebody on a 557 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: charity organization that they work with is going to have 558 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: a negative opinion of them. Maybe there's something wrong with me, 559 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: and I'm certainly willing to admit that that might very well. 560 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 7: Be the case. 561 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: I don't spend any time worrying what anybody thinks about 562 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: me at all, other than the people that I live 563 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: with and also work with. That people are like, He's 564 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: the worst human being to ever worry if you are, like, man, 565 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: it's really awful to sit down and do the show. 566 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: I feel bad about that, right because you know me 567 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: and we work together. But the idea that I would 568 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: walk into like a cocktail party and care what a 569 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: bunch of people I don't know in Washington, DC. Think 570 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: about my opinion on Roe V. Wade is like, it's 571 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: so boring to me. I think it's pathetic if that's true. 572 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: If John Roberts is sitting around like worried about this, 573 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: it defeats the entire purpose of having lifetime tenure. But 574 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: I do think there's probably something to it, and I 575 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: wonder how much of that is just balancing the way 576 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: that directions are coming. We'll talk about that and more. 577 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: We'll take some of your calls when we come back. 578 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. And I 579 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: want to tell you maybe what John Roberts needs is 580 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: some more testosterone. 581 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 6: Maybe he just needs a. 582 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: Little bit of them, vigor and vitality, big swelling biceps 583 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: to not even care anymore. Maybe he could be as 584 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: strong as Reacher. I went to go see a great 585 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: movie last night, Ordinary Angels. It's going to be out 586 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: soon a month from now, so good. And it starred 587 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: Alan Rickman. I think I'm getting his name right. No 588 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: is Alan Rickman, the guy from Harry Potter. 589 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: That's Harry sna or not sa Professor Snape and or 590 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 2: Hans Gruber from Diehard. 591 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: And he's also dead, so he was not in the 592 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: movie that I watched last night that would have been 593 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: Rest in Peace, Rest in Peace, Alan Rickman. What's the 594 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: guy's name? Who's Allan Richter? I think, isn't it? 595 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 7: Is it? Really? 596 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: I was in Blue Mountain State with this guy. He 597 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: was phenomenal in Ordinary Angels, and I think he has 598 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: like he looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger at the absolute peak 599 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: of his strength at Richchesters. Alan Rickson, yes, he was 600 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: amazing in it. Hillary Swank was amazing in it. But 601 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: Alan Rixton in particular, maybe the strongest actor in Hollywood 602 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: right now. That guy doesn't need more testosterone. He's got 603 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: more chalk than he could possibly handle. 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Don't miss a 621 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: minute of Clay Buck and get behind the scene access 622 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: to special content for members only. 623 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 6: Subscribe to CNB twenty four to seven. Welcome back in. 624 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Get to your calls here quickly. 625 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you to be quick so we can 626 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: close it up. But I wanted to play. Biden spoke 627 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: yesterday in Northern Virginia and he had a couple of 628 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: nonsensical things to say. I thought we should just keep 629 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: you updated on our commander in chief. Here is Biden 630 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: saying that Glenn Young, who is currently the governor of Virginia, 631 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: won a big race in twenty twenty one, that he's 632 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: not actually the governor of Virginia. 633 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 6: Listen to Biden, Oh Virginia. 634 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 10: And the real governor, Terry McColl. 635 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: Ah, the real governor election denialism at its finest, Terry 636 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: mcalliff got his ass kicked by Glenn Youngkin. Glenn Youngkin 637 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: fired back at Biden. But remember whenever they deny election results, 638 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: it's just good politics, not a direct threat to democracy. 639 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: And here is the most eloquent president ever. Here's Joe Biden. 640 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 10: A valuable lesson, don't mess with America unless you want 641 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 10: to age the benefit. 642 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: I mean that sounds like, listen to that one more time. 643 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: This is Joe Biden with an important message for all 644 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: of America. 645 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 10: Well teach Donald Trump, but a valuable lesson, don't mess 646 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 10: with America unless you want it to. 647 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 7: Be But you know, you know what's awesome. 648 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 2: Actually he sounds like the really drunk guy who's sitting 649 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: alone at the bar who's like telling strangers, look at me, 650 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: and then wants to start a fight, but no one 651 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: takes him seriously because he can't even speak because he's 652 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 2: had one too many. 653 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 6: Oh my goodness, what a ridiculous situation we're in. A 654 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 6: bunch of you wanted to weigh in. I want to 655 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 6: make sure that we hit your calls. 656 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: By the way, we're going to dive into Greg Abbott 657 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: versus Joe Biden and state of Texas versus the state 658 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: in the United States tomorrow because there's a lot of 659 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: drama there, but a bunch of you weighing in right 660 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: now who still wanted to give us your opinions. Catherine 661 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: in Augusta, Georgia, the Home of the Masters, what you 662 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:38,719 Speaker 1: got for us? 663 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 11: I've got a different perspective for you. I'm concerned that 664 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 11: in trying to cultivate the next generation of young conservative 665 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 11: voters who are leaning towards the right and want to 666 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 11: vote for the conservative causes, that they're going to get 667 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 11: really disenchanted loose states in the process. Haley, who represents 668 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 11: for them, a younger, multi ethnic female and more with it, 669 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 11: kind of candidate that they can be fact that they 670 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 11: can be behind as a repairthern you. 671 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting argument. You said you have daughters. 672 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: How old are your daughters? 673 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 11: I do I have. They're in their twenties, and we've 674 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 11: had this conversation a lot, and they've kind of gotten 675 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 11: excited about the possibility of being able to vote in 676 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 11: our state primary for Nikki Haley because for them if 677 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 11: they aren't given that opportunity, and she is so dismissed 678 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 11: by all of you that understand it. In our generation, 679 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 11: what's at staken. You're looking at the math and you're 680 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 11: looking at the numbers and that she can't possibly win. 681 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 11: But what that generation is seeing is what she represents, 682 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 11: and that is an alternative to two eighty year olds, 683 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 11: one of whom is demented and the other one is dictatorial. 684 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: Okay, So Catherine, you think your daughters, who are sorry 685 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: to cut you off, but you think your daughters who 686 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 1: are in your their twenties, would be willing to vote 687 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: for Nicki Haley in a battleground state like Georgia would 688 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: not vote for Donald Trump. 689 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 11: I do, I really do, because they are excited about 690 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 11: being able to vote, and I know that they really 691 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 11: lean to the right and they know that the left 692 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 11: that were. 693 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 7: Destroying the country. Yes, yes, yes, and. 694 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 11: They're looking forward to an opportunity to vote for somebody 695 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 11: like Ramaswami or DeSantis or now Hayley. 696 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 6: I get it too well. 697 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 2: Can I say something Katherine about the about the way, 698 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: and thank you, thank you for calling in. I want 699 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 2: to address some of what Catherine has brought to the 700 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 2: conversation here. That's an excellent call, and appreciate the perspective. 701 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 2: A couple of things. What we've seen is that Trump's 702 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 2: biggest support, overwhelmingly is in the over sixty five voting demographic, 703 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 2: meaning that the people that are the most all in 704 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: on Trump by age are the oldest, the youngest are 705 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 2: the least all in on Trump. This is unsurprising considering 706 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 2: Trump's age. And then beyond that, and this is where 707 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 2: it think we get into what happens to the general Clay, 708 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 2: if what Catherine's talking about applies to one or two 709 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 2: percent of the electorate, as much as that doesn't represent 710 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 2: the GOP base and all the rest, that could be 711 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 2: the difference in the election. 712 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 7: That's how tight this could end up being. 713 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: And that's why my argument is you have to stop 714 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: thinking about what makes Maga happy. Maga is happy Trump 715 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: is the nominee, and you have to start thinking about 716 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,479 Speaker 1: what makes people who are not diehard Trump's supporters more 717 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: likely to vote for Trump. And a lot of people 718 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: can't make that pivot because they can't get outside of 719 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: their own head. 720 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 6: The Catherine call there, I think is really interesting. 721 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: Her daughters in their twenties in a battleground state like Georgia, 722 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: they'd be willing, potentially to vote for Nicki Haley over Biden. 723 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 6: They might not vote for Trump. That matters. 724 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: There are to Buck's point, one or two percent of 725 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: the population is likely to determine this outcome. How do 726 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: you get them. That's the question of the next nine months. 727 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: We're going to be talking about a lot on the show.